DeMar and PG Pick Their Midrange Starting 5
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- Опубликовано: 17 май 2023
- DeMar DeRozan and Paul George discuss their all-time midrange shooters. #demarderozan #paulgeorge #timduncan #nba #nbapodcast
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Shaun Livingston was a beast midrange shooter. I remember him always pulling up near the free throw line shooting right over JR smith in them finals. I was like damnnn this dude never misses!
He was never like that though. He was a slasher his whole career until he got injured and traded to GSW. That's when he started playing different and started shooting middies.
@@nicenicenice8863 point is. He became a beast midrange shooter.
He was decent/good but he was playing on a team that was heavy praised so in a way his game was over hyped
@@tyhsfhsg5144 the dude has a whole highlight reel of him hitting tough midis wym? 🤣 even though he was on a great team he still came off the bench getting buckets
Smush Parker was the best mid ranger shooter😤
No KD no dirk and no Melo is absolutely insane
Just so many good midrange shooters😭 but melo should be mentioned fasho
KD and dirk yes melo had the bag but was just inefficient
DIRK lead the 00s in MID RANGE
NASH lead the 00s in FG% from MID RANGE....
@@onlyfacts3178 that’s all either of them shit fr. Dirk one legs fade and Steve nash with the runners and floats
@@Young-ep8ik yea he was but it’s cause his teams relied so heavily on him to score but his bag from the mid range is undeniable
Melo's midrange game was LETHAL. Mans could do it in the post, off the dribble, and had the best face up midrange shot I've ever seen. Brandon Roy is another midrange god, and KD is of course great.
ye im sittin here wondering why melo ain’t up here ! one of the best mid/post fowards of all time
Hard to choose only 5 players !
@@micksd1023 Because he wasn’t the most efficient
Ok I was goin down the comments lookin for somebody 2 say this
@@googleaccount9908 agreed kd dirk mj were the best midrange imo
No Dirk is WILD
Actually absurd i forgot about durk
There's a lot of all time great mid range shooters. No KD is even more insane 😂
There young
Fact
No Melo is crazy
We need more of this type of discussion with other NBA players 🔥🔥🔥 great episode with great stories and lots of knowledge!
Lamarcus Aldridge mid range is so underrated. Dwade mid range game was crazy too
I swear 75% of L.A points was midrange.
I personally would put KD but great lists!
That’s a good pick
Yup
Always that one kid with the anime pic needing to chime in
@@TheOnlyKontrol the pic don’t matter. He’s correct kd is killer unstoppable in midrange
for sure
Demar’s not lying about 80s/90s televised basketball games. It was blurry AF. You just knew their numbers and paid attention to announcers to figure out who did what. 😂
Love the list they had. They wanted to prioritize players who had all the moves at mid-range. Not only just catch and shoot players or using 2-3 screens to get a good look. They obviously focused on players who could do almost any move to get a bucket at mid-range. Whether if it was a post-up, jab step, fade away, shoulder turn, drop step, single dribble to shot, footwork, etc., they were able to use almost any move to create space for a good shot. And you would have no idea which move they would choose from. It's the kind of player that you would dread guarding in isolation. Once you're stuck on that island, you're doomed.
No Dwayne Wade? No Richard Hamilton?
Did you read his comment Rip was a catch and shoot player
@@joshuadonald9383 Fair enough, but Wade was a killer mid-range player. Also guys like Nash, Bird, Dirk, KD etc. are all killer mid-range players.
@@Fitplayer66 They are but they chose their favorite
@Ramell Dion Lamarcus made his life and money with that turnaround mid range shot c’mon it’s a great pick
It’s tough to take only 5 cus there have been so many mid range monsters in the history of the league. For awhile there the mid range shot wasn’t getting used much it was either you score in the paint or hit threes but it’s starting to come back now
Demar giving props to Kawhi much respect. Get him on the clippers pg
dude this clip is sick. Such a great question to ask. Really hard to pin down just 5.
Demar is a good storyteller!
Rip Hamilton was the mid range assassin
He’s on my list for sure!
yeah, but to their point, he got most of his buckets off of screens. He didn't create much. Great player, no doubt...but just ran around screens. He's kinda like a mid range reggie miller.
Rip came off Dem screens like a mf like Reggie Miller!
People forget how nice Shaun Livingston's midrange jumper was, specially when he was with the Warriors. I'd put him in my PG. Then MJ, Paul Pierce, Melo, and Lamarcus Aldridge.
I thought shaun livingston immediately but there's just no way you put him over CP3. Having him over Andre Miller is arguable tho
He was annoying to watch on GS cause he never missed a middy🤣🤣
cmon men too many playerd who is good in 2s
cmon men too many playerd who is good in 2s
That’s the mid range god
Pau Gasol honorable mention too
[had seen Dirk, Wade, KG, Livingston amongst others mentioned, def. agree w/ y'all. Everyone seems to've covered this 1 pretty well. yet to see, Pau, so thought I'd shout 'em out too.] this topic wound up being more fun than expected
Love the podcast!!
Dirk &Melo. Karl Malone was also pretty lethal from 14-20 ft. out.
Illegal defense rules and Stockton inflated his numbers
K.g. too
They probably won't mention Karl for obvious reasons
Malone is definitely underrated
Not the only 14-20 that malone hit
Garnett is a dark horse guy at pf… he was even more letal than Duncan from midrange
Both KG and Dirk> Duncan from mid/range
Those two were so good in 10ft and closer.
If you could get Dame on this show to talk about the "bad shot" that would be absolutely insane
Larry Bird is thought of now as a 3 point shooter because of highlights and the 3 point contest. He actually shot less than 2 3s per game most of his career. He has to be on this list. He was called a long range shooter because it WAS long range for the time but midrange was his best aspect by far.
Paul George, can you please try getting T-Mac on the podcast? I’ve always wanted to see you guys talk hoops together
That Bucks team with Cassell, Ray Allen and Glenn Robinson was probably the best midrange shooting team ever
Definitely SAM I AM! His leadership was impeccable
CP3, Book, and KD
d wade got a underrated middy
Fasho
Nah, love D Wade but he ain’t got shit lol
@@mikeg7244 Wade ain’t have a mid range game ? U tripping
Hell nah. Luv d wade, but he's nowhere near this list of players
such a great podcast, man.
Prime David West never missed a middy
"Over the last 25 seasons, 1700 different times that a player has taken at least 250 mid-range jumpers in a season - there’s been three times that a player has shot over 55 percent"
KD did it all three times. Hes the greatest midrange shooter ever.
Shoutout JJ Redick for the stat
No kawhi?
True but his volume is much lower than those other guys. Guys like MJ and Dirk had seasons where they were taking 10+ mid range attempts per game
For example, in 1996-97, Steve Kerr shot 56.1% from mid range on 3.7 attempts per game
@@Martin-tr4sj Facts
since the 00 DIRK has the highest mid range shoots.
and NASH has the highest mid range FG%....
Yo. This podcasts is Gold 🪙💰
Props to the Rip shoutout. Some kids definitely don't know how cold that man was. Nobody will match that stamina.
Kyrie Irving has to be pretty up there too for Point Guards. I know he's not in favor these days, I'm not a fan either and I think there are so many issues with him both on and off the court, but the dude's midrange game is pretty deadly. Other PGs have to include Oscar Robertson, Steve Nash, Shaun Livingston, Sam Cassell, Tony Parker.
Brandon Roy is so slept on. I’m surprised Danny Granger didn’t get a mention as he seemed intent on standing against the 3PT revolution by taking the earliest/most contested 18fters 😂😂😂
MJ was always insane cuz of his ability to hang after an unseen vertical, but god damn it’s almost even more insane to have that level of dominance in the 2nd 3-peat where he had lost a little bit of his step/burst/athleticism while the entire league go so much better from 86 to 95.
Dirk is an all timer and all time big who changed the game without having the defensive switchability or elite rim protection, but his damn LaMarcus Aldridge don’t miss that shit and it seems so easy to him.
2 of the smoothest players, 2 of the best from midrange. Both from LA 🤝🏽
Terrance Mann watching this at home hearing PG tell Demar about how he can’t guard him like 😑🫠
I remember a portland houston playoff series where i was rooting for houston. Aldridge made mid range after mid range. Killing me smh. At the time i didnt know if i has ever seen anything like it. It was RIDICULOUS
His mid range was ridiculous
People saying Shaun Livingston be forgetting that this man deadass couldn’t shoot past the free throw line. If you can’t even shoot long 2s there’s no way you’re an all time great midrange shooter
You could argue the term ‘midrange’ doesn’t extend to all two point shots and that midrange is only just outside the free throw line. Other 2 point shots are often called long 2’s
Long two's are not midrange shots...
@@ss3vegito999 Yes they’re literally long mid range jumpers lol . Dirk, KG and MJ excelled at both the short and long mid range game
@@abejohnson1590 mid range is 10-22 feet
Ima subscribe because my boy mentioned rip Hamilton. All time favorite player. Absolute unit
im glad people pick lamarcus aldridge, not necessarily underrated, but left out of discussions more often than not
I'd have to have Barkley and Melo. There's so many good choices though cause it's like impossible to leave Kobe, Mike and Kawhi out so Barkley or Melo would have to sit cause I'd need a center who would be Duncan.
No KD??
Crazy i just posted that about sam. Didnt think they would ever mention him😅
I'm noe addicted to this pg podcast😂
Brandon Roy tho 👀 surprised they didn’t mention Carmelo
Idk I’m putting Melo in my 4 .. but Kawhi… KD .. Debo are excellent choices.
Jerry West.
Guy lived and breathed pull up mid range jumpers. We need to give respect to legends where we can.
I still see him more of a long-range shooter, even tho they didn't have the three-point line, yet.
T-Mac at the elbow off a Yao Ming screen was crazy.
Dirk literally made his fader famous in the midrange.
I got
Cp3
MJ
Melo
KD
Timmy
No way I’m losing
I really fuck with this podcast 🔥🔥
Kareem with the automatic Skyhook..all mid-range buckets 😂
KD being the GOAT midrange player and not in your starting five is crazy lol. And i am always rooting against KD
Michael Jeffery Jordan has entered the chat 👀
@@Oppenheimer1967 not even a discussion. MJ has the highlights, and was a great mod range shooter in the 90s.
What KD is doing is on a different level.
@@patricija4179 Their mid range %’s are similar in case you were wondering and MJ played in the 2000’s too lol.
@@Oppenheimer1967 KDs efficiency this season was the best ever
@@jeremyfuller7730 yall hyping this man like he didn't have ppl to take the pressure off
Timmy would drop 34 on 12/20 all finesse and midrange on big ass dudes , i miss that mf
Book mid range game is insane to me
David West, Maurice Speights, Jamal Crawford, Shaun Livingston, Duncan, Dirk, wade, just a few that always felt automatic from midrange. Obviously some of these players on this list are role players but when it mattered, especially in intense play off games I was always blow away by their efficiency and how they didn’t seem to miss. I wonder who else I should list? Anyone else that should be here, especially underrated/ easily overlooked players like David West.?
Michael Redd was an underrated mid range shooter.
He should stay in the three-pointer conversation.
No Dirk or Alex English is crazy. David West, Lamrcus, Melo, CJ, Horford and Jerry West are honourable mentions
david west 100% !!!!
You didn't say KD. Invalid
Alex English is top 5. That’s all he did . West was nasty too
Lmao Demar caught himself 2:26
Rip Hamilton was a Beast at the midrange. Specially when they won it all in 2004.
No Melo & T-Mac is crazzzyyyy
shaun livingston some where on the list
Demars game is one of my favorites
The way Kawhi leonard has the midi on lock is crazyyyyyy
My all mid range lineup?
CP, Bean, Melo, Dirk and Timmy
Mj>kobe kd>melo and LA>Timmy from the middy
24 over 23 ? Wild
@@tyriqbrass1088 mj is better than kobe its not even up for debate however kobe is the closest thing to mj in the nba
no mj? and melo only belongs on the NO DEFENCE list..
Tony Parker is another name that comes to mind. TP was automatic with the middies.
no he wasnt
@@onlyfacts3178 oh ok
@@keiseanb1 TP wasnt even a regular shooter...he was actually a bad shooter...his FG% is great under the paint not outside and mid range is outside the paint..he became a regular shooter but not great
Before I watched the video I was about to say no lamarcus or dirk is crazy. But kawhi spot on. His mid range jumper is insane
KD and Dirk are super solid mid range. I remember their duel.
T mac at the 1 w melo at the 4 and Dirk at the 5 w bean and mike 2 3.
Why did I have to scroll down so long to find this correct answer…
No Carmelo Anthony is insane 🤦🏽♂️
I swear I was thinking Andre Miller right before PG said it 🤣
Where the hell my boy got the royal LA fitted from ? It’s so fire
Brandon Bass iykyk
My man ! 🤝
No kd is crazy
The first player that comes to mind is Zach Randolph. Absolute killa from the mid post.
Jamal Mashburn was nasty In the mid range too
One thing about this whole video is why I believe PG is better than Demar cuz they ain’t talkin no defense which I know demar n Paul can’t have a conversation about!!!
dawg, what?
Melo gotta b 4
That’s what I’m saying
KD better.
@@KIDLACROIX420 all time as a player buh midrange melo got it
Dirk is better
@@jordanrogers2072 melo is not a better mid range shooter than anyone named & definitely not kd ur laced
Shaun Livingston was tuff at the middy to
KG was nasty in the mid range high key too.
Brandon Bass midrange sleeper
nigga u joking
no kyrie or kd??
They're better 3 level scorers rather than just mid range specialist
Lamarcus Aldridge midrange game was nasty.
Shaun Livingston was a freaking deadly midrange jumper
Definitely missing D-Wade but solid list 🔥🔥
-- There's dozens of midrange specialist who can be a Top 5 kind of guy: Wade, Shaun Livingston [SL], etc.
But Wade was incredible dunker so we tend to forget his midrange. And SL? He had a shortened peak so we forget him a lot. But SL coming off the bench for GSW was money.
@jlui21 Livingston fasho was nice in the midrange as well i agree. He was taller too so he can shoot over anyone & gonna pick his spots all the time.
@@jlui21 WADE Was know for being a bad shooter....
NO KD OR MELOOOO
after hearing them talk about how kawhi is strong, it really puts that video meme of kawhi backing down on pg in the post into perspective LMAO
PG lineup is on point.
Kahwis is the best in his generation
Isnt KD statistically the best midrange shooter by like a very wide margin? I mean i dont think hes as good a player as some of the other guys named but hes the midrange GOAT
According to what statistics ? He has similar mid range %’s from 10-16 Ft and 16ft-3pt as MJ and Dirk but at a lower lower volume
No
But top 3 on numbers are dirk mj kd
In the last 25 seasons, KD has three of the most accurate seasons from the mid-range in his name. I don't know how long statistic has been collected, so KD probably leads the all-time stat.
@@penkima4923 they didn’t start tracking until 97 and after
So a lot of stats we don’t even know
@@penkima4923 KD literally has a lower mid range % than Steve Nash, Dirk and Chris Paul lol
Shaun Livingston was a mid range assassin
Honorable mention Antonio mcdyess. Good god he was automatic from the elbow
Kobe at the 1, MJ at the 2, KD at 3, Dirk at 4, KG at 5
KG 18-footer was automatic
@@minhyungkim7824 ong i forgot about Melo tho
KD is the best mid range shooter of all time my boy. The numbers show it
^ you spelled Dirk wrong.
I love that 5 I would just put Tim Duncan at the 5 in mines and that would be the only change
At point guard CP is the only option.
At the 2 you can choose Kobe and Mike
At the 3 you can choose Kawhi and DeMar
At the 4 you can choose Dirk or Tim
At the 5 you can choose Aldridge or Jokic.
nice to see my man aldridge on demar's, but man for both PG and Demar no KD or dirk is pretty crazy.
The midrange shot seems like it’s so undervalued in todays game sometimes.
I’ve seen younger players that are left wide open from midrange but decide to go drive instead.
There is so many mid range shooters, its all about favorite players
To me, Larry is always there
Demar is a great guest dude has a lot to say
Seeing as rip was mentioned. A few others in the comments. The issue that dbo is describing is he already ate up 2 wing spots with mile and kob. (Cause you have to) and while all these other mentions are 10000% worthy. Can you put anyone over those 2?
Shaun Livingston, Mike, KD, Melo, Dirk
jimmy underrated
Underrated:
Mitch Richmond & Sam Cassell
Allan Houston I remember I felt secure.
This should be Top 5 that you remember.For me it would be Mike,Kobe,Kemp,Malone, and Duncan