I like this album...it was a huge departure of what we have heard from Cher. Growing up in the 70's and early 80s it wasn't always cool to be a Cher fan. I remember when I was in high school people would say..in a laughing manner...oh you are that guy who likes Cher, you should listen to rock-n-roll. So I was thrilled when Cher did a rock album. I love almost all of the songs and it was great to see Cher do something that she wanted to do, she looked like she was having fun. Les Dudek was her boyfriend at the time and he is the singer who she duets with on "You Know It" I still love to pull this album out and play it at full blast...just nice to rock out with Cher.
Jeff.....God Bless you Man.....BLACK ROSE IS A TIME CAPSULE PIECE THAT: YOU HAD: TO BE THERE IN: ORDER TO: EXPERIENCE & APPRECIATE. i Remember How Tough it was: Being a Die Hard Cher Fan in: High School.....ppl would say: "OH !! You mean Like: Sonny & Cher ???" Even the Radio Stations had No Memory Between: 79 & 82 83 84 85....& then Suddenly Cher: Became More Famous for: Being a Serious Actress.....MASK: 85-86 was That Turning Point where Even my Coolest of Cool Best Friend thought that: "Cher: Looked: Pretty Hot".....hahaha No One Got Cher.....Because Really: Cher was Doing: Cover Songs & Classics In: Vegas & Monte Carlo.....which Thankfully: with Everything There was: On Vinyl.....Somehow Got me Through.....until i Actually met Another Cher Fanatic while Walking Through The Supermarket with: THE BLACKGLAMA AD PINNED TO MY JACKET..... Yeahhh You Remember that Year at: The Golden Globes when Cher said: @the Verrry End of Her Acceptance Speech....."& MOSTLY I WANNA THANK MY FANS.......WHO: HAVE TAKEN.....SO MUCH CRAP: BEING MY FANS".....& we All Laughed.....Because: we Knew That: FINALLY our CHER was About to: SHINE......BRIGHTER THAN: ANY OTHER: WHITE HOT SUPER NOVA IN: THIS: GALAXY of: ( Twinkie WannaBe ) MEGASTARS !!
@@richardraget7946 YES, so true.....I think our experience with all of her work from at least the 70's, we lived it in real time...so we have a different view point then from people who are discovering it today. And yes..I remember when she thanked her fans...it was so true...we had to put up with a lot of trashing from people..but being a true fan...we didn't care. When she won the Oscar it was a triumph for not only her, but all of her fans.
Yes, So True about REAL TIME.....we saw The Publicity & watched Stevie Nicks & Pat Benatar Break Through but Cher had That: Classy Vegas Edge & That: Body of: Gorgeous Costumes that ppl mostly Still haven.t Come To: Know.....except in pictures. We Have a CONTEXT: TO: COMPARE.....CHER & HER SOLO TRANSFORMATION THAT: I TOTALLY BELIEVE WAS: ALL CALCULATED/ Right After Cher Left Sonny.....She had no money & no work But: She Had Her Freedom.....& you know Cher saw Herself/ Singing Hard/ Much Harder Rock Music in ARENA SETTINGS while She was: Still with: Sonny. Mama was a Rock & Roll Singer & Papa used to Write All Her Songs was: The One Time that Sonny Listened to Cher & it went nowhere Because of their Stand Against Drugs at Concerts. You know All This.....Gotta just Say that: Watching Cher Grow as: a Solo Performer was: An Education that: Shaped me As a Human Being & Her Songs about Love & Pain were Something that i had to: Figure Out a Whole Decade After Loving each Album..... I started in: 1971 because i knew Cher*s Voice was my Favorite Instrument on Earth by Age 4 & i could Seriously Recognize that One 8-Track Cover Photograph.....& y*know All Those Songs where Cher Created a Feeling or: Told a Story brought me to: a Much Higher Level of: Sensitivity than: hahaha All the Other Boys Around.....Cher Puts Emphasis & Emotional Intensity to: All Her Songs even 2day.....The Lady Knows How To: Build a Cruscendo & Always Could Deliver in: Perfect Tempo.....( DANNY BOY/ MONTE CARLO/ 1979 ).........& YET SHE HAS: HAD TO: SACRIFICE ALL OF THAT: BECAUSE MUSIC TURNED INTO: SH*T ABOUT 1990.....So Cher just Gave us More of: LOVE HURTS.....The Concerts Are All Great although Somehow i TRULY BELIEVE THAT: CHER IS SAVING: THE VERY BEST FOR LAST. & ya know what.....i was Living in nyc When Cher Won Her Academy Award & i Swear to you: THE ENTIRE ISLAND OF MANHATTAN ALL CHEERED SIMULTANEOUSLY !!
This is one of my favorite albums. Cher's voice is perfect, she gives one of the best volcals ever and she sounds totally into it (opposite of Cherished). My fav song is 88 Degrees, It took me a lot of time to appeciate it, and is not a son I listen too often, but still I consider it a gem. Never Should've Started is easily in my top 20 fav Cher songs too. I looove We All Fly Home and I think Young And Pretty is very good. The other two songs, You Know It and Fast Company, I don't care about them. Great video!! Next one will be very cool too!! My fav Cher albums are all between 1969 and 1982 (+ Not Commercial that was recorded in 1994). I'm not such a big fan of the Geffen albums or the dance era (but I will enjoy your videos for sure!!)
With CHER producing the Bio picture/film it will be her version if her life. Bio film are never good when the person the film is about is involved it generally isn't objective.I mean will CHER really be honest on the plastic surgeries? I suspect that will be bushed over. CHER is always vague about all work she has done despite the obvious amount t of work she has had done.
new wave rock....even linda ronstandt did it.....bad love was released before this album .........it was produced by Georgio Moroder.....written by he and CHER.....it was on a sound track for a movie with Jodie Foster.
@@SalRocha yes its not a great movie....from 1980....Foxes....with a double album soundtrack. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxes_(film) ruclips.net/video/em6X3tPlbks/видео.html
I could fill you in on the happenings at the time as to why Cher made this career move to withdraw her name in a private chat, but I will share this for the viewers: what followed in her pop-rock catalog would not have happened without Black Rose. Oftentimes, an artist has to explore and experiment to find their sound, and this was an important part in her development as a modern radio pop-rock act. As for the production, it was James Newton Howard's early effort in producing. He went on to do soundtrack work for many movies, so she had the best she could find, and I would say this was a freedom ride as well as a learning experience. It was she and Les Dudek who put this together (he himself was a rock artist with several albums and when he did this, he just about washed his career away) and he has the guitar and vocal chops to pull off "You Know It." It also has to be noted that women in rock were very few. Joan Jett had a big record, and when Pat Benatar had come in, radio told her "we already have a female, Stevie Nicks.." Top that off with the fact that head of Casablanca Neil Bogart died. So what Cher was doing here was ahead of its time and it just needed some tweaking, which is what happened to her later at a new label. That said, her spirit is what drives this album for me, that 'take no prisoners' attitude. I loved it, and told her so the first time I met her.
I was lucky enough to see Cher w. Black Rose in Holmdel, NJ! While it wasn't my favorite set of songs for her, she was as exciting fronting this band as you could imagine. She looked incredible and her vocals were even better "live" and unleashed. It's a shame the material wasn't up to her level, but it's still a Cherished memory ♥
Wow. I don't usually get surprised by most reaction videos especially during the 80s (I lived them). This one was quite a surprise. I have never heard of this before and I'm a huge Cher fan.
Julie was written for Cher by Elton John's longtime song collaborator Bernie Taupin. At the time, although not unheard of, saying the word Bitch in a song was actually still quite risque' at the time. I enjoyed Black Rose very much. It was not the best Cher ever, but in retrospect I think it was an early preview of what was to come later with the albums Cher and Heart of Stone. Very risky chance she took with this effort. A brave and growing time in her career.
@@robfitzgerald4595 Well, I do hate to bust your bubble here, but “You Know It” was written by Les Duden and Les Duden IS the other vocalist. The album was released in 1980 and Cher and Gregory were NOT recording together. The ONLY time they recorded together was on the album “Allman and Woman” which was released in November of 1977. They were finally divorced in 1978. They were then estranged and rarely came together and then only for Elijah Blue. In fact, Elijah had a strained relationship with his dad for many years as well, but that eventually became better. So, NO, the other voice is the writer of the song, Les Dudek.
@@robfitzgerald4595 AND, for that matter, Gregory hated Cher’s voice, said she was a bad singer. Also, Cher and Les Dudek were a couple during the Black Rose period. Cher even got Les a part playing “Bone” in her movie, “MASK”. And since Les and Cher were together during the recording of the Black Rose album and Les wrote that song, why, logically, would Gregg Allman do any vocals on the album?? Think about it. Peace.
I am probably one of if not Cher's biggest fan....and she was finally able to do the music she wanted to do here..it didn't sell-she didn't care....But really its like that doobie brothers sounds of that time....it was the sound of like kiss also...I love this Album! It was Kick ass....
I was sixteen when this album cam out- I loved it! I had a friend named Julie and I'd sing that song to her on the bus on our way to school lol. She'd go, "Ed, you're driving me crazy! And you sound just like Cher when you sing it." I'd crack up. I was pumped that I sounded like Cher. Ha ha.
Update....Cher did not want her name to appear on the album, she wanted to be a "band"..not Cher. When they opened up for Hall and Oats, she wasn't introduced as Cher, they were introduced as Black Rose....then soon like waves, people at the show discovered it was Cher.
The album doesn’t really work, but I love that Cher wasn’t afraid to take chances with her music especially around this time in her career. Les Dudek helped her pull black rose together, he talks about it in this interview. He started as the bands guitarist and became her BF for 3 yrs after gene simmons. ruclips.net/video/bWJD3w8xn5o/видео.html
I liked this album when it came out. My musical tastes were changing at that time and to have Cher do a straight forward rock album excited me. Her vocals were amazing. I think the album fails to work because it is so desperate for street credibility. Cher was way past here struggling youth days and the attitude on the record is lost in translation. This is why the more AOR songs work better than the other harder edge songs because she's not a tortured artist or a brassy broad. All the same it is a favorite of mine, but I completely get the criticism it receives. Hard core fans like me like it and don't really expect others to understand her longing to do a record like this.
I think what you said is perfect "desperate for street credibility". No Doubt, Cher has been through some very hard times within her Career but the material on this album doesn't showcase it in the right way!
I love this album for Cher's unencumbered vocals, it's raw, real & powerful! Phil Spector once said "Cher's got a voice that could knock over a bulldozer" she proves it on this album. Love "Young & Pretty"! '88 degrees " is the stand out song for me, it's brilliant! "Fast Company' would have been my choice for a single release.
Black Rose sound like they wanted to be Blondie meets Quiet Riot. This experience certainly set Cher up to record with Meatloaf. If you want to hear this music done right, check out "Desperatel" by "Divinyls". Christina Amphlett was the ultimate rock and rock woman. But she was never a Diva! "You Know It" reminded me a little of ZZ Top. Heart weren't exactly at the peak of their powers during this time but at least their albums succeeded where this one fails.
Hey Sal, Can I just say that your expressions are very misleading like for "You know it" ... You liked it but your faces didn't say that. I met Cher Backstage at the Mirage in 1990 and had a few items for her to sign. I brought this Album Blackrose and she was so happy to sign it she said " WOW you are one of the few people who bought this album " I mentioned I bought 2 of them lol This was a really good effort on Cher's behalf they have a few videos on RUclips of this band check it out " Take it from the boys" and "We all fly home " actually I really liked all the songs on this album Keep in mind I've been a fan of Cher's since Sonny and Cher came out in the 60" During Cher's long career there were many times she was at the bottom and had to constantly had to prove herself which made her the Icon she will always be hence she tried things that didn't have anything to do with her name (Cher) at times that was a problem more the an advantage, also "Bad love" was from the movie "Foxes"
Bad Love Cher co-wrote and is not one of my favorite Cher songs...It was great that she had a song in a movie, but not really one of her best works...but not her worst either.
Black Rose was Cher's attempt to break free from the musical confines record labels had placed her under. As Casablanca records was going under she was able to negotiate the recording and release of Black Rose fulfilling her obligation to the record label. The album bust her out from under musical decisions created by record companies who thought they knew best. Cher changed labels for I Paralyze but once it was finished in New York she was already on Broadway and focused on acting never wanting to record again.
"Green Day" would have done a great job on "Never should've of started". On critic said of this album the production, band was good! They just need a differnt vocalist. The critics hated this wannabe rocker CHER album. The label only printed a certain number of the "Black rose" album. It was a commercial flop.
"Again, the art work is amazingly on point in the post disco era. "Never should've started" was decent and a promising beginning. This album was pushing the new wave craze which was a softer side to punk rock which spun out from anti establishment youths and their hatred of disco dance music. Pat Benatar, Chrissy Hyde of the band "The Pretenders", Joan Jett & the black hearts" "Blondie" and "The Eurhythmics" were scoring hit records. CHER wanted to rock! CHER's deal with Casablanca records to record 2 disco albums included the "Black rose" album. The label did not have a lot of faith in it's success. (probably after "Prisoner" , CHERs album after "Take me home" flopped) The label ONLY printed a certain amount of the vinyl for the "Black rose" album which was smart because the album flopped and did not produce a single hit. I like the song "Never should've started"! It would have been a great song for "Green day" to record years later. I also sort of like "Young & pretty" & "88 degree's" ..... It's CHER's vocals that is the problem with "Black rose". I hate saying that because she can be REALLY good and has been but she can be really terrible also. The producer is suppose to do their job and point this out to who he or she is producing. CHER is head strong and difficult to work with in the recording studio. Bob Esty for example did his job and bumped heads with CHER but the end result was success with "Take me home" one of her biggest hits.
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I love Cher's vocals in this ENTIRE ALBUM! She's raspy, growly, gritty, pushing her inner Janis Joplin out and it's awesome!
So true! I love that 💕❤️
I like this album...it was a huge departure of what we have heard from Cher. Growing up in the 70's and early 80s it wasn't always cool to be a Cher fan. I remember when I was in high school people would say..in a laughing manner...oh you are that guy who likes Cher, you should listen to rock-n-roll. So I was thrilled when Cher did a rock album. I love almost all of the songs and it was great to see Cher do something that she wanted to do, she looked like she was having fun. Les Dudek was her boyfriend at the time and he is the singer who she duets with on "You Know It" I still love to pull this album out and play it at full blast...just nice to rock out with Cher.
Thanks for the info!
Jeff.....God Bless you Man.....BLACK ROSE IS A TIME CAPSULE PIECE THAT: YOU HAD: TO BE THERE IN: ORDER TO: EXPERIENCE & APPRECIATE.
i Remember How Tough it was: Being a Die Hard Cher Fan in: High School.....ppl would say: "OH !! You mean Like: Sonny & Cher ???" Even the Radio Stations had No Memory Between: 79 & 82 83 84 85....& then Suddenly Cher: Became More Famous for: Being a Serious Actress.....MASK: 85-86 was That Turning Point where Even my Coolest of Cool Best Friend thought that: "Cher: Looked: Pretty Hot".....hahaha
No One Got Cher.....Because Really: Cher was Doing: Cover Songs & Classics In: Vegas & Monte Carlo.....which Thankfully: with Everything There was: On Vinyl.....Somehow Got me Through.....until i Actually met Another Cher Fanatic while Walking Through The Supermarket with: THE BLACKGLAMA AD PINNED TO MY JACKET.....
Yeahhh You Remember that Year at: The Golden Globes when Cher said: @the Verrry End of Her Acceptance Speech....."& MOSTLY I WANNA THANK MY FANS.......WHO: HAVE TAKEN.....SO MUCH CRAP: BEING MY FANS".....& we All Laughed.....Because: we Knew That: FINALLY our CHER was About to: SHINE......BRIGHTER THAN: ANY OTHER: WHITE HOT SUPER NOVA IN: THIS: GALAXY of: ( Twinkie WannaBe ) MEGASTARS !!
@@richardraget7946 YES, so true.....I think our experience with all of her work from at least the 70's, we lived it in real time...so we have a different view point then from people who are discovering it today. And yes..I remember when she thanked her fans...it was so true...we had to put up with a lot of trashing from people..but being a true fan...we didn't care. When she won the Oscar it was a triumph for not only her, but all of her fans.
Yes, So True about REAL TIME.....we saw The Publicity & watched Stevie Nicks & Pat Benatar Break Through but Cher had That: Classy Vegas Edge & That: Body of: Gorgeous Costumes that ppl mostly Still haven.t Come To: Know.....except in pictures.
We Have a CONTEXT: TO: COMPARE.....CHER & HER SOLO TRANSFORMATION THAT: I TOTALLY BELIEVE WAS: ALL CALCULATED/ Right After Cher Left Sonny.....She had no money & no work But: She Had Her Freedom.....& you know Cher saw Herself/ Singing Hard/ Much Harder Rock Music in ARENA SETTINGS while She was: Still with: Sonny.
Mama was a Rock & Roll Singer & Papa used to Write All Her Songs was: The One Time that Sonny Listened to Cher & it went nowhere Because of their Stand Against Drugs at Concerts.
You know All This.....Gotta just Say that: Watching Cher Grow as: a Solo Performer was: An Education that: Shaped me As a Human Being & Her Songs about Love & Pain were Something that i had to: Figure Out a Whole Decade After Loving each Album.....
I started in: 1971 because i knew Cher*s Voice was my Favorite Instrument on Earth by Age 4 & i could Seriously Recognize that One 8-Track Cover Photograph.....& y*know All Those Songs where Cher Created a Feeling or: Told a Story brought me to: a Much Higher Level of: Sensitivity than: hahaha All the Other Boys Around.....Cher Puts Emphasis & Emotional Intensity to: All Her Songs even 2day.....The Lady Knows How To: Build a Cruscendo & Always Could Deliver in: Perfect Tempo.....( DANNY BOY/ MONTE CARLO/ 1979 ).........& YET SHE HAS: HAD TO: SACRIFICE ALL OF THAT: BECAUSE MUSIC TURNED INTO: SH*T ABOUT 1990.....So Cher just Gave us More of: LOVE HURTS.....The Concerts Are All Great although Somehow i TRULY BELIEVE THAT: CHER IS SAVING: THE VERY BEST FOR LAST.
& ya know what.....i was Living in nyc When Cher Won Her Academy Award & i Swear to you: THE ENTIRE ISLAND OF MANHATTAN ALL CHEERED SIMULTANEOUSLY !!
This is one of my favorite albums. Cher's voice is perfect, she gives one of the best volcals ever and she sounds totally into it (opposite of Cherished). My fav song is 88 Degrees, It took me a lot of time to appeciate it, and is not a son I listen too often, but still I consider it a gem. Never Should've Started is easily in my top 20 fav Cher songs too. I looove We All Fly Home and I think Young And Pretty is very good. The other two songs, You Know It and Fast Company, I don't care about them.
Great video!! Next one will be very cool too!! My fav Cher albums are all between 1969 and 1982 (+ Not Commercial that was recorded in 1994). I'm not such a big fan of the Geffen albums or the dance era (but I will enjoy your videos for sure!!)
Thanks so much for letting me know!
I wonder if Cher will talk about this era in her biopic?
That would be fascinating
She pretty much ignores it
@@henriquedjosci I don't believe she has ever said anything about this album sadly
i hope so, i loved it.
With CHER producing the Bio picture/film it will be her version if her life. Bio film are never good when the person the film is about is involved it generally isn't objective.I mean will CHER really be honest on the plastic surgeries? I suspect that will be bushed over. CHER is always vague about all work she has done despite the obvious amount t of work she has had done.
new wave rock....even linda ronstandt did it.....bad love was released before this album .........it was produced by Georgio Moroder.....written by he and CHER.....it was on a sound track for a movie with Jodie Foster.
Thanks for sharing! Have you seen the movie? Is it good!
@@SalRocha yes its not a great movie....from 1980....Foxes....with a double album soundtrack. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxes_(film) ruclips.net/video/em6X3tPlbks/видео.html
I could fill you in on the happenings at the time as to why Cher made this career move to withdraw her name in a private chat, but I will share this for the viewers: what followed in her pop-rock catalog would not have happened without Black Rose. Oftentimes, an artist has to explore and experiment to find their sound, and this was an important part in her development as a modern radio pop-rock act. As for the production, it was James Newton Howard's early effort in producing. He went on to do soundtrack work for many movies, so she had the best she could find, and I would say this was a freedom ride as well as a learning experience. It was she and Les Dudek who put this together (he himself was a rock artist with several albums and when he did this, he just about washed his career away) and he has the guitar and vocal chops to pull off "You Know It." It also has to be noted that women in rock were very few. Joan Jett had a big record, and when Pat Benatar had come in, radio told her "we already have a female, Stevie Nicks.." Top that off with the fact that head of Casablanca Neil Bogart died. So what Cher was doing here was ahead of its time and it just needed some tweaking, which is what happened to her later at a new label. That said, her spirit is what drives this album for me, that 'take no prisoners' attitude. I loved it, and told her so the first time I met her.
Amazing! Thanks for sharing!
HER BEST ALBUM (BESIDES STARS, 3614 JACKSON HIGHWAY, AND NOT.COM.MERCIAL)
I agree 1000%
cool
I love all decades Cher!
Me too
I was lucky enough to see Cher w. Black Rose in Holmdel, NJ! While it wasn't my favorite set of songs for her, she was as exciting fronting this band as you could imagine. She looked incredible and her vocals were even better "live" and unleashed. It's a shame the material wasn't up to her level, but it's still a Cherished memory ♥
So cool you got to see the show live!
I really love Black Rose’s LP. Sal, have you or will you do a reaction for Not.com.mercial?
Of course! We’re going all the albums!
@@SalRocha I figured, I just had to be sure! Can’t wait, I love your videos 😊
Wow. I don't usually get surprised by most reaction videos especially during the 80s (I lived them). This one was quite a surprise. I have never heard of this before and I'm a huge Cher fan.
Cool!
Julie was written for Cher by Elton John's longtime song collaborator Bernie Taupin.
At the time, although not unheard of, saying the word Bitch in a song was actually still quite risque' at the time.
I enjoyed Black Rose very much. It was not the best Cher ever, but in retrospect I think it was an early preview of what was to come later with the albums Cher and Heart of Stone.
Very risky chance she took with this effort. A brave and growing time in her career.
I agree! She's so brave in everything she does!
Julie hands down best song
YOU LYIN' BITCH!
@@SalRocha lol not of all time just on this album
I agree-Julie has always been my favorite on this album!
The other voice on “You Know It” was Les Dudek, pronounced “Doo Deck” I LOVE this album. Every song. Been a Cher fan for 52 years.
COOL!
I don't think Gregg Allman would be happy to see your comment.... In other words the other voice on that song IS Gregory
@@robfitzgerald4595 Well, I do hate to bust your bubble here, but “You Know It” was written by Les Duden and Les Duden IS the other vocalist. The album was released in 1980 and Cher and Gregory were NOT recording together. The ONLY time they recorded together was on the album “Allman and Woman” which was released in November of 1977. They were finally divorced in 1978. They were then estranged and rarely came together and then only for Elijah Blue. In fact, Elijah had a strained relationship with his dad for many years as well, but that eventually became better. So, NO, the other voice is the writer of the song, Les Dudek.
@@robfitzgerald4595 AND, for that matter, Gregory hated Cher’s voice, said she was a bad singer. Also, Cher and Les Dudek were a couple during the Black Rose period. Cher even got Les a part playing “Bone” in her movie, “MASK”. And since Les and Cher were together during the recording of the Black Rose album and Les wrote that song, why, logically, would Gregg Allman do any vocals on the album?? Think about it. Peace.
LOVE it. This is pure early 80s, grainy nostalgia. They did perform live in Central Park! Audio is(was?) available on youtube
I listened to it! It was interesting!
I am probably one of if not Cher's biggest fan....and she was finally able to do the music she wanted to do here..it didn't sell-she didn't care....But really its like that doobie brothers sounds of that time....it was the sound of like kiss also...I love this Album! It was Kick ass....
Noted!
I was sixteen when this album cam out- I loved it! I had a friend named Julie and I'd sing that song to her on the bus on our way to school lol. She'd go, "Ed, you're driving me crazy! And you sound just like Cher when you sing it." I'd crack up. I was pumped that I sounded like Cher. Ha ha.
I love that! So funny!
Update....Cher did not want her name to appear on the album, she wanted to be a "band"..not Cher. When they opened up for Hall and Oats, she wasn't introduced as Cher, they were introduced as Black Rose....then soon like waves, people at the show discovered it was Cher.
Thanks for sharing!
A good album, although one I don't go back to. I love "Young And Pretty", one of my all time Cher favorites.
Thanks for sharing!
The album doesn’t really work, but I love that Cher wasn’t afraid to take chances with her music especially around this time in her career. Les Dudek helped her pull black rose together, he talks about it in this interview. He started as the bands guitarist and became her BF for 3 yrs after gene simmons.
ruclips.net/video/bWJD3w8xn5o/видео.html
I agree something doesn't work with this project
@@SalRocha yeah unfortunately it’s all over the place lmao 😂
I liked this album when it came out. My musical tastes were changing at that time and to have Cher do a straight forward rock album excited me. Her vocals were amazing. I think the album fails to work because it is so desperate for street credibility. Cher was way past here struggling youth days and the attitude on the record is lost in translation. This is why the more AOR songs work better than the other harder edge songs because she's not a tortured artist or a brassy broad. All the same it is a favorite of mine, but I completely get the criticism it receives. Hard core fans like me like it and don't really expect others to understand her longing to do a record like this.
I think what you said is perfect "desperate for street credibility". No Doubt, Cher has been through some very hard times within her Career but the material on this album doesn't showcase it in the right way!
I love this album for Cher's unencumbered vocals, it's raw, real & powerful! Phil Spector once said "Cher's got a voice that could knock over a bulldozer" she proves it on this album. Love "Young & Pretty"! '88 degrees " is the stand out song for me, it's brilliant! "Fast Company' would have been my choice for a single release.
Thanks for sharing Eric!
It's a good lp I was in my 20's back them and enjoyed it
Yay!
Black Rose sound like they wanted to be Blondie meets Quiet Riot. This experience certainly set Cher up to record with Meatloaf.
If you want to hear this music done right, check out "Desperatel" by "Divinyls". Christina Amphlett was the ultimate rock and rock woman. But she was never a Diva!
"You Know It" reminded me a little of ZZ Top.
Heart weren't exactly at the peak of their powers during this time but at least their albums succeeded where this one fails.
Okay!
I loved “88 degrees”,” young and pretty”, and “Julie” is very hot!
Slay!
🖤🖤🖤🖤
:)
Hey Sal, Can I just say that your expressions are very misleading like for "You know it" ... You liked it but your faces didn't say that. I met Cher Backstage at the Mirage in 1990 and had a few items for her to sign. I brought this Album Blackrose and she was so happy to sign it she said " WOW you are one of the few people who bought this album " I mentioned I bought 2 of them lol This was a really good effort on Cher's behalf
they have a few videos on RUclips of this band check it out " Take it from the boys" and "We all fly home " actually I really liked all the songs on this album Keep in mind I've been a fan of Cher's since Sonny and Cher came out in the 60"
During Cher's long career there were many times she was at the bottom and had to constantly had to prove herself which made her the Icon she will always be hence she tried things that didn't have anything to do with her name (Cher) at times that was a problem more the an advantage, also "Bad love" was from the movie "Foxes"
Bad Love Cher co-wrote and is not one of my favorite Cher songs...It was great that she had a song in a movie, but not really one of her best works...but not her worst either.
Thanks for sharing! Did you like the movie Foxes!
I love your wall😍
Thank you!
@@SalRocha Can you show us all the wall?
Black Rose was Cher's attempt to break free from the musical confines record labels had placed her under. As Casablanca records was going under she was able to negotiate the recording and release of Black Rose fulfilling her obligation to the record label. The album bust her out from under musical decisions created by record companies who thought they knew best. Cher changed labels for I Paralyze but once it was finished in New York she was already on Broadway and focused on acting never wanting to record again.
Thanks for sharing Mike
I love we all fly home
One of my faves!
Julie, you never should of started
Good songs!
I’m so hype
Whoop Whoop!
CHER wanted to be Pat Benatar on this album. Pat was huge when this album was conceived
She really wanted to!
Sal! Can you please do a video about Britney's Conservatorship Audio?!
She truly is being held captive by her evil management team!
I don’t know what I could say that hasn’t already been said
"Green Day" would have done a great job on "Never should've of started". On critic said of this album the production, band was good! They just need a differnt vocalist. The critics hated this wannabe rocker CHER album. The label only printed a certain number of the "Black rose" album. It was a commercial flop.
Interesting premise!
Y are you reading everything you don't know too much about Cher sorry but?
I am sorry Joanne
"Again, the art work is amazingly on point in the post disco era. "Never should've started" was decent and a promising beginning. This album was pushing the new wave craze which was a softer side to punk rock which spun out from anti establishment youths and their hatred of disco dance music. Pat Benatar, Chrissy Hyde of the band "The Pretenders", Joan Jett & the black hearts" "Blondie" and "The Eurhythmics" were scoring hit records. CHER wanted to rock! CHER's deal with Casablanca records to record 2 disco albums included the "Black rose" album. The label did not have a lot of faith in it's success. (probably after "Prisoner" , CHERs album after "Take me home" flopped) The label ONLY printed a certain amount of the vinyl for the "Black rose" album which was smart because the album flopped and did not produce a single hit. I like the song "Never should've started"! It would have been a great song for "Green day" to record years later. I also sort of like "Young & pretty" & "88 degree's" ..... It's CHER's vocals that is the problem with "Black rose". I hate saying that because she can be REALLY good and has been but she can be really terrible also. The producer is suppose to do their job and point this out to who he or she is producing. CHER is head strong and difficult to work with in the recording studio. Bob Esty for example did his job and bumped heads with CHER but the end result was success with "Take me home" one of her biggest hits.
Thanks for sharing Paul!