If ever Range Rover needed an ambassador you would be the ideal candidate,your knowledge and love for the brand stands out a mile and does you credit. Keep up the good work.
I'm toying with the idea of buying an L322 (like a horror movie, i know i shouldn't be looking.. but i cant help it).. so i've been working through your back catalogue of L322 videos. Your enthusiasm for these cars is infectious!
Nice one Matt!! Bought a 2012 L322 4.4 TDV8 last May. Love it!! Up to £6k in preventative maintenance because I want it 100%, had no issues very reliable, starts every time, flew threw MOT no advisories. Even had Lanoguard underside protection. Added a Bovee Bluetooth Streaming device which connects to ipod point, works a treat. Won't be letting it go anytime soon... Keep it up. 😊👍
@@tanks4lyfe509 Even I also like land rover but u can't trust it's reliability, u can find so much owners who's land rover getting so many problems under warranty.
Hello again. 'Matt', you are spot-on regarding how people look after their vehicles, windsreen wipers are a great example, before retiring I used to drive 20k miles per year with my company car per year, at the 'company car' 10k service I would always ask for a new set of wipers, I would normally have to pay the bill. Two important things on a car, good tyres for grip on the road , good wipers to see the road ahead, KISS. Regards, RichardA.
@@rezamotin7305 lol your so wrong, having driven 30.000 miles a year for last 15yrs in a variety of very nice expensive company cars I always changed Windscreen wipers every year, it’s such a small expensive, also new matching tyres as soon a 2mm depth, having seen multiple accidents over the years my life is worth the expensive to increase visibility and reduce stopping distance on a wet cold winters day on the M1
Had my 2011 5.0 S/C V8 for 5 years - 35k, mainly just normal maintenance items apart from the air compressor, front air struts, and heated seat ventilation (no one serviced the seat filters which caused the issue!). It has been the best car I have owned and will change it very reluctantly!
You're on commission from JLR I'm sure of it. Seriously though, another good video with lots of interesting info. I do agree its pretty timeless in standard form.
I’m not, I hope being disingenuous in claiming that far from (funny as it may be), suggesting that Mattt receives an a commission from JLR, there are quite a lot of us who remain loyal supporters of the JLR icons I have owned many cars over the years, currently a Jaguar, like any vehicle, if you look after them, you will be rewarded in the long term. And they never look ‘ordinary’.
I had the 2006 L322 3.6 litre RR Vogue and as previously mentioned, loved it. I still miss that car and agree with every single sentiment in this video. Yes it was a little clunky inside, not as luxurious as the newer models etc. But the L322 was super comfortable, safe and carried everything I needed it to. And yes, it made you feel great on the road. I never had an issue with parking although other people might have had an issue with my parking, but such is life. I went through two fuel injectors because I used fuel from a supermarket petrol station (very bad thing to do) and one resistor under the centre console that kept flattening the battery. But I would not trade it for anything for the 11 years I had it. You even had my eyes pop when you mentioned the Bosch wipers. That is exactly what I did for the car. Thank you for a fantastic video Matt. Subscribed with bells.👍👍👍
Totally agree with that! I work in a different industry and there are definitely "tell" signs and red flags that you would not pick up upon if you didn't do the job day in and day out. Thanks for the vid .
It's just a pity that a dealership wouldn't fit decent tyres to a car they were selling. Ok I'm not saying they should fit a set of Michelin Sport Pilots but a have reasonable brand at least. I've just bought a car from dealership and it's got some non descript make on as a set. Still they are legal which is something.
Hi Matt you forgot to mention keep well away if it has budget tyres. Anyone prepared to skimp on the bits where it’s your only contact with the road most likely skimped everywhere else.
That's actually a really good tip. Yeah, anyone who skimps on tyres is a dick; even when I had a very old car, I bought Pirellis or Michellins, and the rest of my car was totally serviced and repaired if anything broke. I got top dollar when I sold it.
I have to agree with you over the reliability of almost all older luxury cars. When they are about 7 to 10 years old, they go through a stage of needing attention and given their depreciation, they are no longer worth much. Folk start going to independents… (if at all) and cut corners (a bit). Classic cars etc get pampered, whilst older luxury barges get hammered.
Took the L322 Vogue to Taunton today Marks & Spencer’s . Stocked up on a few essentials, Stilton and bubbly . Drove home via Preston Bowyer & Wiveliscombe , through Huish Champflower and home . Lovely afternoon out , the Vogue performed Beautifully .
The whole review is absolutely spot on. The only problem with these older luxury cars no matter what brand they are, is too find a low milage few owners car with full service and all that.
Low mileage is definitely not always a good idea, having a car just lay there most of it life is no better then having it do 60 miles a day up and down the motorway.
Buying a car with low mileage isn’t always the best advice, I would rather buy a car that’s used daily and has racked up the miles with plenty of history. Also if a car has higher mileage there is a good chance that it’s had some Of the potential larger jobs done, hence the importance of having a good read of the history.
I love my 2008 3.6 L322 because is elegant but not too extravagant. It handles dirt roads very well but also is very smooth on the highways. If you know your way around to shop for parts and have a good mechanic shop, then is not that expensive to own. I'm keeping mine for a long time. Great review!! Thank for sharing!
Great review Matt. I got my first L322 last year after returning to driving after 15 years - a 4.4TDV8 Westminster from the 2012 final run. Same colour and trim as the one in your review. I totally agree that the design is timeliness and I often say that during the day mine is a hard working farmer down the field but then is easily able to pop on a tux and go to dinner. I actually love the somewhat 'mechanical' nature of the doors (a la Harry's Garage - BOOOF) there is something satisfying about it. It has grunt, a satisfying growl when prompted and luxury like driving in your armchair. The tech in it is everything I need and the dual view TV is great to play tricks on little family members who think it's magic. Reliability - totally agree and I think preventative maintenance is the key. Get to know a local specialist and listen to what they tell you. The advice I give is just as you did - work out your budget, take 15% off and pop it into a savings account. It's not a car for everyone but it's certainly a love affair for me. Sometimes she will have something wrong and she probably won't want to tell me why - only when she goes to see her friend (the garage) but she is a truly great car. I'm not sure I'd ever want to switch up to the L405 - if that day ever comes, I'll pop up and see you!
The L322 just gets under your skin in a way that is impossible to explain. I’ve had two of the earliest BMW engined petrol 4.4 V8’s and they were brilliant, if thirsty, and so refined that at tick-over you could be forgiven for thinking that it was turned off. I prefer the look of the very early ones, but they’re all great. They do suffer around the rear arches / door shut area with tin-worm though…
Love this video, as I’m looking to purchase a late-model L322. Appreciated them from afar, and now ready (I hope) to take the plunge. Thank you Matt for your thoughts and experiences. They will help even on the other side of the pond.
I bought my 2011 L322 Range Rover HSE Lux three years ago. 128k miles. 5.0 gasoline/petrol V8. Baltic blue but with the same interior as the one in your video and I get compliments regularly. Yes, I've put about $5,500.00 into repairs but we love driving this on weekends, light off roading, and long highway trips. It's a keeper.
Had my 2004 L322 4.4 v8 petrol in silver for just under 3 months now. Apart from the fuel consumption (17.8) the car is brilliant to drive. I have replaced my 2017 Ford Ranger Wildtrack with this car and it ticks all the boxes. Family, work , dog it does it all.
I really like the look of these Range Rovers, and your video really sells the idea to me to be brave enough to buy a newish one...BUT without exception everyone I know who has had one , regrets the day they bought one..so I take the cowards choice and stick to a BMW x5 or Mercedes Glc which I have had for the last 10 years with virtually no issues
Having owned one of these beasts I recognise the giddiness you are experiencing telling everyone how lovely they are, and you are so right. Until you've clocked up your first 70+mile journey in one you really don't know what motoring should be. 5.0L over the top, may be more like a double helping of cream, delicious 😋 Yep, it's time for me to get back in the saddle while there's still some nice ones left.
I owned a metallic grey supercharged Vogue SE L322 with Overfinch wheels. I sold it when I changed jobs and went down the company car route and got an Audi. I still miss the Range. It’s a fabulous motor & the best 4x4 in the world by far. A mate of mine test drove the new Defender recently and said it was absolutely fantastic. If you haven’t done a video on the defender Matt then that’s the next one to do 👍
Great review. Friend of mine has a 2010 3.6TDV8. She bought it two years ago from a family who had had it from new, and we collected it from a large (very large actually) countryside home with the grand total of 32,000 miles on the clock and full history. As you can imagine, its been faultless. I got myself a 2010 3.6TDV8 Sport a few years ago which I love, but whenever I see or travel in my friend's car, its just a bit more and a bit better in every way except perhaps on a bendy road.
I’ve owned 2 of these and this overview is very fair and in my experience accurate. I’m now in a RR Sport SVR (2022) and it rides no better and is less imperious. One thing I recommend is buy a Gold one, all Gold cars are looked after better than any colour. :-)
Lol! You forgot to mention the essential Barbour green jacket and shopping at Waitrose! I have just checked off your ‘generalisation list’ and the only one not applying is ‘banking at Coutts’; have we met before? Lol! Great commentary as always, Matt. Ps just off to listen to the Archers.......
I owned a 2010 autobiography 5.0 from June-Jan. Put 10,000 miles on it and loved every second. I got out of it because I didn’t want a vehicle I would have to put money into when I have newer ones, but I definitely hope to own one again!
Recently upgraded by TD6 to a 2010 5.0 S/C and I love it. The best work horse I've ever owned and always puts a smile on my face. Depreciation really is a wonderful thing.
Excellent video. I can relate and understand all the wonderful points you made about the beloved Land Rover- range rover we all love! I did drive a 2008 -up until a few days ago. It made it to 247,000 miles bought it with 89,000. What a beautiful truck!!
Love your videos, no coated BS, just straight up honest car review and advice…..and because of you I’m picking up my first L320 RRS today! Took all your advice on board and hopefully my one won’t be too bad!
I have one. 2007 TDV8. Loved it initially. I bought one with great history and which had had a lot of money spent on it with receipts to prove it. Then the fun began… first the torque converter went, now the air suspension has failed (2 x airbags), for the second time in 6 months. It’s not even the cost of those items that’s the most disappointing bit about it, it’s that the car is in the shop of a week at a time for each one. Due to Brexit, there are still huge delays getting parts from the UK. I can get a part for a BMW within a day or two, but it’s a week for a LR part. And if it turns out you need something else once the repairs are underway, that’s another week… but Brexit has been known about since 2016, and this situation still persists. I’m very mechanically minded, so am able to diagnose most things myself and coordinate the repairs, but I resent having to do so. I value my time more than I value the badge. In summary, it’s an excellent car when it runs, but they’re every bit as bad as they say when they go wrong. I’m selling mine now, and getting something Japanese. Either a Lexus or an Infiniti. Have been burnt by a number of the German cars too, so am equally as unwilling to give another one of those the time of day either. There’s a reason a Landcruiser is worth double what it’s Range Rover equivalent is worth, even when the RR on paper, and in the cabin, is the far superior vehicle.
@@dave216dx mine were made by Dunlop, same as the OE. And it wasn’t the same airbag each time. Also, 10years is pretty ambitious. Once the dirt gets into the folds of the bag it eats them alive. There’s a clear ring of wear in the area where the dirt abrades them. During the winter the whole underside of the car is caked in grime. There should be some sort of guard around the bag. Same as there should be a guard on the entire rear wheel arch and not just a portion of it. But therein lies my point, it’s hard to reconcile the poor design with the price tag of the car and cost of parts. The rear wiper motor is another weak point. The water comes through the hub of the motor, and it leaks as it ages. It’s inherently flawed. This is one of the reasons for the rusty tail gates. The water can just be leaking into the tailgate and standing in there and you’ll never know…
Wisest advice I’ve heard yet when it comes to the L322. I’ve had 4, I’ve had 39 cars including multiple Lexus LS’. Everything said here is 100% true. Of all the cars I’ve had, these are the highest quality across the board but they do require periodic maintenance just like every single other brand.
@@chrisjohn7823 Yes I recommend the service of Lynne Ellen Rule she is a great financial consultant and has made a great impact on my financial journey.
Even as a non car trader there is plenty of info to help when looking at a car. I check "DVLA MOT checker" and if the car has had loads of fails and /or advisories especially safety related I leave alone. Also check the brand of tyre if enquiring further down the line . If cheap brand then only if it breaks maintenance. Also where was the service history actioned? Main Dealer is good , " Best Price back street" then leave alone. Don't tend to look at the Arnold Clark or Evans Halshaw vehicles as they tend to be do as little as possible to turn them over stock so you're buying the last persons problems . Great review as usual.
Spot on Matt. Yet more wise words and sound advice. I've previously owned large typically 3 or 4 year old Land Rover, Mercedes, BMW, Hyundai and Kia vehicles. The latter two definitely a more affordable but no less useful or worse proposition - look past the badge people! All however do go wrong with something eventually. Your comments that the more complicated (and thus expensive) a vehicle is, the more there is to go wrong, the more it is likely to cost to fix - are indeed wise words. Recently I "scratched the itch" and bought (privately) a 2012 L322 with 50,000 verifiable miles on the clock. Did my homework and so far it looks like I bought okay - all-be-it at a high price. Specialist Land Rover garage have just gone right through it and found £600 worth of repairs, including a rear sub-frame rust prevention treatment. I'm pretty happy at that. One of the best kept examples they claim to have seen. Your point about a repair fund is also critical. Put £1,500 - £2,000 away for the first 2 or 3 years to build up a repair fund is essential advice. Mine has come with the balance of an 18 month warranty but it has so many "get-outs" for the provider to exploit, it frankly is not worth the £1,650 per year it will go on to cost me if i'm daft enough to extend it. They also limit the labour rate they will pay up to - £72/hr inc VAT. Good luck finding a decent Specialist, never mind main dealer, charging under that in southern England. It will need some unforeseen (probably costly) repair at some point, but i've wanted one for the last 10 years and so far am really liking it, despite the dated infotainment system. I see it more as an affordable Bentley yet it tows the occasional heavy loads I need it to. Being an Autobiography it is as luxurious as these cars came and that surprisingly smooth and (relatively) economic diesel V8... wow! A 10 year old, 2.7 tonne vehicle should not be able to take off and drive like this!
Your advice on buying and servicing is spot on..its just common sence! I look for simple signs that the thing has been loved ..cared for...interior wise..then theres a good chance its been seeviced and repaired with thought and care...another thing is i always stay away from mods...big wheels...smoked lights...sport style mods ...just about anything thats not original...smoked windows are fine if its done properly and not gangster style! 👍
Your stereotypes are absolutely correct, five years ago I purchased a 1973 lotus Elan +2 from a lovely incredibly well spoken chap, radio 4 in preset, expensive 4 bay heated garage, car was ceramic coated, full petrol tank, fantastic last ten years service history....paid above average price, but have done 10.000 miles with absolutely no issues...I also purchased a 1969 Triumph GT6 from a back street dealer in Luton...£8000 later it stops and starts 😭😳
Another great video Matt. Had my 2010 5.0 supercharged LPG converted Autobiography for nearly 3 years now and still absolutely love it. I average the equivalent of 30 mpg and still have the 500 horses grin from ear to ear every time I step on the loud pedal. Thought about selling it a few times but nothing else out there which will do what this does. Also my local RR specialist reckons I'm still better with this than the L405 which they seem to be seeing quite a few issues with. Anyway keep up the good work!
I bought a 2012 L322 4.4 TDV8 autobiography in October. I’ve spent about £3k in preventative maintenance, but she’s been an absolute gem. She’s not going anywhere. The L322 is a real peach in Land Rover’s history.
There are only two new (at the time) cars which have absolutely bowled me over with the all round brilliance. This was one. I'd never owned any LR product before but I bought one new in 02, a 4.4V8 petrol, had it two years, and adored every moment of driving (filling the tank was a different story). Not a single squeak, warning light or problem in that period. Ok, the little passive aggressive Green stickers that I was killing polar bears were a little irksome to find, but I do miss this. It is a big old bus, but as you have so accurately summarised, it is both a luxury car and a proper working vehicle. Oh, and the other one, the new Defender. Unlike the 3 months when I ordered the L322, that one I'm having to wait 12 months to arrive. I can't wait!
Matt, I am not kidding, you answered my secret request for a dream video. Was waiting for you to do another Range Rover video. I love L332s. Much appreciated.
Great review! I wish we had the 4.4 TDV8 in North America. A L322 had been on my list of cars to own ever since it was introduced. I finally ended up getting myself the next best thing , a 2009 L322 4.2 Supercharged. I absolutely love everything about it! Anyone in North America looking for one, avoid anything 2006 and earlier and 2010 and later. These vehicles are extremely under-rated, especially if you can work on your car.
@punhoss sure thing! Anything in particular you wanted to know? From my experience and basic knowledge of the L322, I would avoid the early 2002-2005 years and later years of 2010-2013 (North American market). The ones you want are 2006 2007 2008 and 2009, in that order if possible. Amongst other little changes (lights/ grill/ cup holders/ electrical/door panal design/ dash board martial etc.) The main reason I say this is the drivetrain. Early models had the BMW 4.4L V8 engine, the same as the 2000s Era BMWs 5 and 7 series, and transmission was a 5-speed ZF transmission. Later models had the 5.0L V8 with the ZF 6 speed transmission. The ZF 6 speed transmission was introduced in 2006 and used all the way until 2013 and is not the issue. The issue is the 400hp 5L V8, especially the 500hp Supercharged models. They have a flawed engine timing chain tensioner design, which causes the premature wear on the softer metal on the guide arm compared to the hard metal piston on the automatic tensioner. It slowly causes damage to the engine to the point of no return. Also, it's not cheap repair, minimum $5000 USD, and repair bills for that service are usually closer to $10000 ( I'm sure someone with a 5L can confirm). Moving on to the sweet spot ( I think) the 2006 to 2009 years. 2006 was the first year of the 400hp Jaguar 4.2L Supercharged engine and the ZF 6speed, although the exterior had some minor changes shared with the 07-09 models, the interior design was similar to the early L322s, most noticeable would be the driver and passenger sear headrests being more rectangular than square and center console ignition key. It's still a good vehicle, but being the first year with those changes, I would lean more towards the 07-09, 07 and 08 were basically identical, refreshed interior with dashboard key ignition were the only major changes along with whatever little issues they had with 06 models. And finally, the 2009 model year, again very, very, very minimal changes, very hard to even really notice. They were the small aluminum trim pieces on the steering wheel spokes / exterior wheels. And now to the price, I'm seen them all over the place, I've seen early l322s sell in the $2,000-$8,000 range the middle years anywhere from $8,000-$25,000 and the 5L later years anywhere from $15,000-$60,000. Obviously, do your homework and see what works best with your budget and personal wants and needs. I would highly recommend buying one with as little owners as possible with the most amount of service history possible. And you're reading this far I might as well throw in another fact since I understand your obsession (which it is lol) BMW designed the L322 under their ownership but sold it to Ford before they released it. Ford slowly began to make changes to make it more reliable and finally got it right in the 2006 model year with the introduction of the Jaguar 4.2L engine shared with block has FoMoCo stamped on the side of it. Ford definitely introduced a higher level of quality under its ownership, and it shows. But 2008 saw the sale of Jaguar/Land Rover to Tata Motors just before the 2008 recession. Hopefully, I got most of my facts right. Does anyone else have anything to add that I missed?
If you're in the UK, the best years for plushness, performance and reliability are 2010-2012 (TDV8 4.4 diesel) with the 8 speed ZF gearbox. Can't speak for versions for the rest of the world.
Guy across from me has an overfinch supercharged in black I thought he swapped it in but he didn’t and still looks cooler than the guy at the pub in an x7
Very honest appraisal. My current e class is reliable but needed oil cooler changed, diff seals, air mass meter, alternator and air con compressor so keeping a slush fund is great Advice.
Such a refreshing take on buying a used Range Rover. Great advice re radio stations and wiper blades. Tyres also a good indicator; cheap Chinese ditch finders too. To be fair you often check tyres.
“whenever i see one pimped out with black badges or chrome door handles, i cringe” is so REAL. i feel like luxury cars that have been little (preferably never) tampered with in their lifetime have so much more of a responsible appeal.
Great to see my car on your channel. Really enjoying my MY2012 4.4V8 Westminster however it’s not an eco car by any means. For the first time last week the Pay At Pump £99 max top up didn’t fill it Still it is a classic and great family and dog ‘car’ (that term seems so inadequate for a RR) It transcends other cars - I guess that’s a big part of the charm
Brilliant buying advice. It all about managing your expectations. All cars break, and the more expensive the car new the more expensive the car will be to fix used. Buy well, not the cheapest. Service everything on purchase and keep a rainy day fund (or the "oooh blimey" fund as Jayem calls it). If you can't afford to run a luxury car wait until you can. For me, the best piece of advice is treat it with respect. If you drive gently, don't rant it, don't smash in to kerbs, keep on top of the small things, most cars will look after you. Oh, and if you can afford it have two cars, a cheap daily hack and a nice one.
Had my l322 3.6 for nearly 12 months after I bit the bullet after watching your other videos apart from a new battery it's been great and reliable. Part of me wishes I had the 4.2 supercharged as I've only done 1500 miles in a year .but I do like the auxiliary heater on remote when I get up a 3.30 am which I'd miss on the petrol version .keep up with the great videos.
Hi Matt, we have an L322, Supercharged, identical colour/spec in your post on a 59 plate, when purchased 51,000miles, paid 28k, currently 62miles, owned 3 years, total spent to date less than 3k, only because that’s what was needed. We would not be with out it, I agreed with every point you made, we’re fortunate financially, we have radio 2 not 4, also your so right, we love the anonymity. Noticed the tyres are getting low, not really on tread, but age, so time to replace.
They are indeed beautiful cars! Other RUclipsrs have documented their experiences with them extensively: Doug Demuro, Hoovie, Scotty, Samcrac ... and I’m sure I forget a few here. Like previously stated, I find those cars VERY easy to “fall in love with”! Because I’ve been watching your channel since the “rusty”, “overrated”, “marginally reliable”, “expensive to repair” despicable LEXUS IS200, I’m tempted to believe ALL of the other guys were biased and got it wrong when it comes to the Range Rover, while you nailed it! 😎
Thanks for this review Mat I just bought a 4.4 vogue se l322 in silver in Dec ,all you say is true they are in my opinion truly the best car ever made .I’ve owned a e46 m3 and two other range rovers but gone back to l322 from a 640d ,you drive other cars but love to drive a l322
£13.5k for a good example under 100k miles is very cheap - that’s the price they used to be before the used car market overheated. No need to worry about turbo or EGR valve fails on the 4.4 as this was just the 3.6 model and so good is the 4.4 + ZF 8speed it went in the L405. My only regret with mine is I didn’t buy one earlier. My only worry is what will I replace it with…..
The stereotyping of the small details you see in cars and judging the previous owners from them is spot on! If someone was cheap on a damn wiper, surely they will REALLY cheap on the big stuff.
Once again, great honest video. I’ve been considering one of these for a few months, now after your review I’m certain this is what I’m after. Thanks Matt for your content, it’s factual humours and well received by many. Clearly. Keep up the good work.👍🏼
Well i done my research and picked the 3.6 v8 sport with 80,000 on the clock and had impeccable history and i gave it a full service and gear box flush and put an uprated exhause 'not tacky' to hear that burble and everything was going great till july of last year and boom engine went bang ! Now stuck with a car saving up for a full engine rebuild 🙈
The buying advice is great not just for a Range Rover, but also for any car. I live in the Yorkshire Pennines and for me the Range Rover full fat job is just too big, too ugly, too thirsty and took difficult to park in our little spaces. Great for towing a horse box across a field though.
In short Matt ‘HELL YES’ the L322 is great, but surpassed by the L405 which I prefer as more luxurious, but yes as always on Rangeys I agree with you Matt the L322 just feels like a classy cruiser. Green over tan is perfect to me 👌
Spot on Matt. Something that many people forget when buying depreciated luxury cars like a range rover is that you are still buying a car that cost 80k and comes with maintenance costs associated. It doesn't matter than now you can get them 15k. If you go in with this mentality you'll save yourself a lot of grief
Matt last year i watch a vid of yours on the Range Rover sport, so took your advice and looked for a low mileage 2010 facelift L320 in silver with 76 k on the clock full history from dealers, I've never looked back its been a fantastic car even towing a twin axle caravan you wouldn't think you were towing anything Only one thing went wrong was a drivers door lock mechanism, but sorted £190 fitted and thats gearbox serviced next month and by a Landover range rover specialists ! Then that sorted 🙌 if i had to sell it i would go for the L322 full size like the 2012 you have just driven ! Love the sound advice you give out !!!! Great content every time and well explained test drives !! ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
I have owned 3 Range rovers continuously, running along side my other cars, for 25 years now. Started with an 1987 3.9 Range Rover classic, replaced after 5 years with a 4 yr old P38 and last year added a black 2011 4.4 tdv8 like the one in the video. Crucially I have a small farm so when with black seats, the cars also have rubber mats in the boot, dog guard for the 3 boarder collies and now a child seat for the granddaughter…. Just great all round family vehicles and I still have my P38 after owning for 20 of its 24 years, also had the odd pet sheep in the P38 taking them back and forwarded to the vets…
The previous owner taste in music is soooooo true, last car I bought was amazingly looked after with Full Service History, it a radio preset to BBC Radio 3, and a Celine Dion Album in the CD player...I made sure he kept the CD's LOL
My Lexus RX450H and RX400 are both heavier, faster, economical , aerodynamic and greener. Love the range rover but can't understand why the engineers are so angry at reliability
Love the video. I don't blame you for the stereotypes and assumptions 1 bit. I have caught myself doing that with boats for my channel. Look for the little things and it normally gives you an indication if they took care of the big things. Problem with luxury cars and in my case luxury boats, is that often people have a steak appetite and McDonald's budget. The neglect typically gets passed on to the next buyer so thanks for giving everyone a glimpse of what to look for, and what to avoid.
Glad to see you do a video on the L322, knew it was only a matter of time! This is definitely the one I'd go for if I was on the market for a Range Rover, I think the styling still looks really good.
Matt, you are one of the most honest human being - car dealer in the world 🌍 it’s true, if you buy this type of SUV you must be able to maintain it. It’s simple as that. In the rest of Europe everyone talks about how unreliable the Range Rovers are, but the reality is that we have few mechanics worthy to repair them when needed so most of them do DIY repairs and then they talk on “how unreliable these vehicles are”. Thanks again for the new clip 👍🏻
Your video on the L322 Range Rover Autobiography supercharged in the early days of your channel has what sold me on your channel. I, a Rangeroveritis afflicted, recognised a fellow patient and coupled with it your honesty has what led me to click the subscribe button. I prefer the later L322 over the L405 as I do find them more regal, more sophisticated and rugged, less flashy than the L405 on 22" rims, and I'm not knocking on them as they're the industry standard for the luxury 4x4.
I've had 2 rr, loved them. Better designed then the Japanese. Its ashame there is no marriage between them. But a RR, fit it out with Toyota's running gear. Sorted. Sadly all the electronics get in the way. Never mind.
Brilliant advice Matt. I bought a 2011 RRS with around 92,000 miles and ended up selling it 2 months later as the ACE pipes were all corroded and ended up breaking and pissing suspension fluid. Had a comprehensive RR specialist history and looked great but I failed as the wiper blades were perished when I first bought the car, haha. Loved owning it, just wish it wasn’t plagued with reliability issues. The specialists themselves (the discovery centre in otley) admitted there aren’t any reliable land rovers out there! Loved every minute of owning it when it worked.
I have just got my 2011 L322 4.4 TDV8 back, having been in a 2020 L494 for the last 6 weeks. I also previously owned a 3.6 TDV8. What a joy! Driving them back to back, you'd really be surprised at how good the 10 year old car is. Sure, the newer cars are better but, you'd be super surprised how closely matched they actually are. Think of the new ones as 'like a Range Rover but, a little bit more refined in every way'. I have to say that the ride is actually better. One thing I have to say... how glorious it is to have my super soft Aniline seats back. They are deeply impressive over the normal seats with the black piping.
I love owning good quality older cats; Jaguar or Range Rover. Buy a good one, cheap . Over the years you’ll not regret the costs.
Who else hates huge iPads on the dashboard to control everything in new cars?
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Typical old people they aren't hard to use there easier and look nicer
If ever Range Rover needed an ambassador you would be the ideal candidate,your knowledge and love for the brand stands out a mile and does you credit. Keep up the good work.
I'm toying with the idea of buying an L322 (like a horror movie, i know i shouldn't be looking.. but i cant help it).. so i've been working through your back catalogue of L322 videos. Your enthusiasm for these cars is infectious!
Nice one Matt!! Bought a 2012 L322 4.4 TDV8 last May. Love it!! Up to £6k in preventative maintenance because I want it 100%, had no issues very reliable, starts every time, flew threw MOT no advisories. Even had Lanoguard underside protection. Added a Bovee Bluetooth Streaming device which connects to ipod point, works a treat. Won't be letting it go anytime soon... Keep it up. 😊👍
Good for you I personally love range rovers, and I think ppl who say they have problems, just don't care for them and just mistreat them.
Do you got it and did it give you any problems.
@@tanks4lyfe509 Even I also like land rover but u can't trust it's reliability, u can find so much owners who's land rover getting so many problems under warranty.
@@rasimkazi7086 still got it. No issues since doing all the maintenance.👍 2023 project is to replace all the suspension airbags 👍
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Hello again. 'Matt', you are spot-on regarding how people look after their vehicles, windsreen wipers are a great example, before retiring I used to drive 20k miles per year with my company car per year, at the 'company car' 10k service I would always ask for a new set of wipers, I would normally have to pay the bill. Two important things on a car, good tyres for grip on the road , good wipers to see the road ahead, KISS. Regards, RichardA.
Wipers at 10k is unnecessary. And a weird story to give as an example
Good points.
Just fitted some Bosch wipers to replace my Volvo originals. Recon I’ve massively increased its resale price lol
@@rezamotin7305 lol your so wrong, having driven 30.000 miles a year for last 15yrs in a variety of very nice expensive company cars I always changed Windscreen wipers every year, it’s such a small expensive, also new matching tyres as soon a 2mm depth, having seen multiple accidents over the years my life is worth the expensive to increase visibility and reduce stopping distance on a wet cold winters day on the M1
@@alanwayte432 20k or 30k which one? Anyway glad your windscreen wipers have kept you alive. God bless them!!
Had my 2011 5.0 S/C V8 for 5 years - 35k, mainly just normal maintenance items apart from the air compressor, front air struts, and heated seat ventilation (no one serviced the seat filters which caused the issue!). It has been the best car I have owned and will change it very reluctantly!
Finest all round car you can get! Bought my 2011 4.4TDV8 last year and love driving it every day, puts a smile on my face.
You're on commission from JLR I'm sure of it. Seriously though, another good video with lots of interesting info. I do agree its pretty timeless in standard form.
Hahha I should probably lay off all the LR stuff. People will think I'm taking bungs
@@HighPeakAutos would that it were though… I mean would that it were they would be generous in return for honest high praise
I’m not, I hope being disingenuous in claiming that far from (funny as it may be), suggesting that Mattt receives an a commission from JLR, there are quite a lot of us who remain loyal supporters of the JLR icons I have owned many cars over the years, currently a Jaguar, like any vehicle, if you look after them, you will be rewarded in the long term. And they never look ‘ordinary’.
Great review there Matt..... Excellent and honest... 👏👏
I had the 2006 L322 3.6 litre RR Vogue and as previously mentioned, loved it. I still miss that car and agree with every single sentiment in this video. Yes it was a little clunky inside, not as luxurious as the newer models etc. But the L322 was super comfortable, safe and carried everything I needed it to. And yes, it made you feel great on the road. I never had an issue with parking although other people might have had an issue with my parking, but such is life. I went through two fuel injectors because I used fuel from a supermarket petrol station (very bad thing to do) and one resistor under the centre console that kept flattening the battery. But I would not trade it for anything for the 11 years I had it. You even had my eyes pop when you mentioned the Bosch wipers. That is exactly what I did for the car. Thank you for a fantastic video Matt. Subscribed with bells.👍👍👍
Your generalisations and stereotypes are spot on and one of the reasons your videos are so good. Great video
Thanks!
Totally agree with that! I work in a different industry and there are definitely "tell" signs and red flags that you would not pick up upon if you didn't do the job day in and day out. Thanks for the vid .
Good buying tips. They’ve never let me down. Budget tyres have me heading for the hills.
Thats another great one
Surely a nice set of Chinese landsails is the sign of a great thrifty owner, who will have kept on top of the maintenance.
@@kevincockburn7805 can't beat a good set if Ditch Finders!!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
It's just a pity that a dealership wouldn't fit decent tyres to a car they were selling. Ok I'm not saying they should fit a set of Michelin Sport Pilots but a have reasonable brand at least. I've just bought a car from dealership and it's got some non descript make on as a set. Still they are legal which is something.
Hi Matt you forgot to mention keep well away if it has budget tyres. Anyone prepared to skimp on the bits where it’s your only contact with the road most likely skimped everywhere else.
Preach! Mismatched Linglong Landwind specials are a definite warning sign. It speaks volumes of the last owner.
That's actually a really good tip. Yeah, anyone who skimps on tyres is a dick; even when I had a very old car, I bought Pirellis or Michellins, and the rest of my car was totally serviced and repaired if anything broke. I got top dollar when I sold it.
I have to agree with you over the reliability of almost all older luxury cars. When they are about 7 to 10 years old, they go through a stage of needing attention and given their depreciation, they are no longer worth much. Folk start going to independents… (if at all) and cut corners (a bit). Classic cars etc get pampered, whilst older luxury barges get hammered.
They depreciate because no one cares for them,basic maintenance,engine trans problems never solved.
Don’t make excuses for the poor reliability that should have been resolved by the manufacturer
Took the L322 Vogue to Taunton today Marks & Spencer’s . Stocked up on a few essentials, Stilton and bubbly . Drove home via Preston Bowyer & Wiveliscombe , through Huish Champflower and home . Lovely afternoon out , the Vogue performed Beautifully .
The whole review is absolutely spot on. The only problem with these older luxury cars no matter what brand they are, is too find a low milage few owners car with full service and all that.
Low mileage is definitely not always a good idea, having a car just lay there most of it life is no better then having it do 60 miles a day up and down the motorway.
@@track6631 Spot on - I bought a 12 year old 118 Convertible with just 44k on it - just had the engine replaced
Buying a car with low mileage isn’t always the best advice, I would rather buy a car that’s used daily and has racked up the miles with plenty of history. Also if a car has higher mileage there is a good chance that it’s had some Of the potential larger jobs done, hence the importance of having a good read of the history.
I love my 2008 3.6 L322 because is elegant but not too extravagant. It handles dirt roads very well but also is very smooth on the highways. If you know your way around to shop for parts and have a good mechanic shop, then is not that expensive to own.
I'm keeping mine for a long time. Great review!! Thank for sharing!
I love the way the water beads off the bonnet as you're driving. Sign of a good valet 👍
Matt just quit it ! Every time i think ive got the RR bug out of my system you put out another video making me want one 😂
Great review Matt. I got my first L322 last year after returning to driving after 15 years - a 4.4TDV8 Westminster from the 2012 final run. Same colour and trim as the one in your review. I totally agree that the design is timeliness and I often say that during the day mine is a hard working farmer down the field but then is easily able to pop on a tux and go to dinner. I actually love the somewhat 'mechanical' nature of the doors (a la Harry's Garage - BOOOF) there is something satisfying about it. It has grunt, a satisfying growl when prompted and luxury like driving in your armchair. The tech in it is everything I need and the dual view TV is great to play tricks on little family members who think it's magic. Reliability - totally agree and I think preventative maintenance is the key. Get to know a local specialist and listen to what they tell you. The advice I give is just as you did - work out your budget, take 15% off and pop it into a savings account. It's not a car for everyone but it's certainly a love affair for me. Sometimes she will have something wrong and she probably won't want to tell me why - only when she goes to see her friend (the garage) but she is a truly great car. I'm not sure I'd ever want to switch up to the L405 - if that day ever comes, I'll pop up and see you!
The L322 just gets under your skin in a way that is impossible to explain. I’ve had two of the earliest BMW engined petrol 4.4 V8’s and they were brilliant, if thirsty, and so refined that at tick-over you could be forgiven for thinking that it was turned off. I prefer the look of the very early ones, but they’re all great. They do suffer around the rear arches / door shut area with tin-worm though…
Love this video, as I’m looking to purchase a late-model L322. Appreciated them from afar, and now ready (I hope) to take the plunge. Thank you Matt for your thoughts and experiences. They will help even on the other side of the pond.
I bought my 2011 L322 Range Rover HSE Lux three years ago. 128k miles. 5.0 gasoline/petrol V8. Baltic blue but with the same interior as the one in your video and I get compliments regularly. Yes, I've put about $5,500.00 into repairs but we love driving this on weekends, light off roading, and long highway trips. It's a keeper.
How many miles have you put? And what were the problems?
Had my 2004 L322 4.4 v8 petrol in silver for just under 3 months now. Apart from the fuel consumption (17.8) the car is brilliant to drive. I have replaced my 2017 Ford Ranger Wildtrack with this car and it ticks all the boxes. Family, work , dog it does it all.
Pleased to hear it. Much better ride than the ranger too
What’s your milage. Currently searching what the highest milage is on 4.4 petrol one
I really like the look of these Range Rovers, and your video really sells the idea to me to be brave enough to buy a newish one...BUT without exception everyone I know who has had one , regrets the day they bought one..so I take the cowards choice and stick to a BMW x5 or Mercedes Glc which I have had for the last 10 years with virtually no issues
Having owned one of these beasts I recognise the giddiness you are experiencing telling everyone how lovely they are, and you are so right. Until you've clocked up your first 70+mile journey in one you really don't know what motoring should be. 5.0L over the top, may be more like a double helping of cream, delicious 😋 Yep, it's time for me to get back in the saddle while there's still some nice ones left.
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Your clues for assessing the health/history of a used car are spot on
I owned a metallic grey supercharged Vogue SE L322 with Overfinch wheels.
I sold it when I changed jobs and went down the company car route and got an Audi.
I still miss the Range.
It’s a fabulous motor & the best 4x4 in the world by far.
A mate of mine test drove the new Defender recently and said it was absolutely fantastic.
If you haven’t done a video on the defender Matt then that’s the next one to do 👍
Great review. Friend of mine has a 2010 3.6TDV8. She bought it two years ago from a family who had had it from new, and we collected it from a large (very large actually) countryside home with the grand total of 32,000 miles on the clock and full history. As you can imagine, its been faultless. I got myself a 2010 3.6TDV8 Sport a few years ago which I love, but whenever I see or travel in my friend's car, its just a bit more and a bit better in every way except perhaps on a bendy road.
I’ve owned 2 of these and this overview is very fair and in my experience accurate.
I’m now in a RR Sport SVR (2022) and it rides no better and is less imperious.
One thing I recommend is buy a Gold one, all Gold cars are looked after better than any colour. :-)
Lol! You forgot to mention the essential Barbour green jacket and shopping at Waitrose! I have just checked off your ‘generalisation list’ and the only one not applying is ‘banking at Coutts’; have we met before? Lol! Great commentary as always, Matt. Ps just off to listen to the Archers.......
I owned a 2010 autobiography 5.0 from June-Jan. Put 10,000 miles on it and loved every second. I got out of it because I didn’t want a vehicle I would have to put money into when I have newer ones, but I definitely hope to own one again!
Recently upgraded by TD6 to a 2010 5.0 S/C and I love it. The best work horse I've ever owned and always puts a smile on my face. Depreciation really is a wonderful thing.
Excellent video. I can relate and understand all the wonderful points you made about the beloved Land Rover- range rover we all love! I did drive a 2008 -up until a few days ago. It made it to 247,000 miles bought it with 89,000. What a beautiful truck!!
Love your videos, no coated BS, just straight up honest car review and advice…..and because of you I’m picking up my first L320 RRS today! Took all your advice on board and hopefully my one won’t be too bad!
Good choice. Enjoy
Yes the RR and the Merc W211 (facelift) truly timeless duo in the driveway🤗
Here I am, considering this particular age RR, and my favourite automotive channel posts this! Mind reader haha!
Cool!
I have the 4.2 Supercharged used as a work horse pulling trailers I do all my services it’s just turned 196000 miles
I have one. 2007 TDV8. Loved it initially. I bought one with great history and which had had a lot of money spent on it with receipts to prove it.
Then the fun began… first the torque converter went, now the air suspension has failed (2 x airbags), for the second time in 6 months.
It’s not even the cost of those items that’s the most disappointing bit about it, it’s that the car is in the shop of a week at a time for each one.
Due to Brexit, there are still huge delays getting parts from the UK.
I can get a part for a BMW within a day or two, but it’s a week for a LR part. And if it turns out you need something else once the repairs are underway, that’s another week… but Brexit has been known about since 2016, and this situation still persists.
I’m very mechanically minded, so am able to diagnose most things myself and coordinate the repairs, but I resent having to do so. I value my time more than I value the badge.
In summary, it’s an excellent car when it runs, but they’re every bit as bad as they say when they go wrong.
I’m selling mine now, and getting something Japanese. Either a Lexus or an Infiniti.
Have been burnt by a number of the German cars too, so am equally as unwilling to give another one of those the time of day either.
There’s a reason a Landcruiser is worth double what it’s Range Rover equivalent is worth, even when the RR on paper, and in the cabin, is the far superior vehicle.
How did you only get 6 months out of air bags? Aftermarket garbage? Most people get 10 years
@@dave216dx mine were made by Dunlop, same as the OE. And it wasn’t the same airbag each time.
Also, 10years is pretty ambitious. Once the dirt gets into the folds of the bag it eats them alive. There’s a clear ring of wear in the area where the dirt abrades them.
During the winter the whole underside of the car is caked in grime. There should be some sort of guard around the bag.
Same as there should be a guard on the entire rear wheel arch and not just a portion of it.
But therein lies my point, it’s hard to reconcile the poor design with the price tag of the car and cost of parts.
The rear wiper motor is another weak point. The water comes through the hub of the motor, and it leaks as it ages. It’s inherently flawed. This is one of the reasons for the rusty tail gates. The water can just be leaking into the tailgate and standing in there and you’ll never know…
Wisest advice I’ve heard yet when it comes to the L322. I’ve had 4, I’ve had 39 cars including multiple Lexus LS’. Everything said here is 100% true. Of all the cars I’ve had, these are the highest quality across the board but they do require periodic maintenance just like every single other brand.
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Matt you shoukd be given your own show, very practical advice, brilliant comparisons. It gives a very good idea of what to look for,keep it up.
Had my 2011 4.4l vogue for 6 years. Loved it every day…… even with the eye watering turbo issue costs!
Even as a non car trader there is plenty of info to help when looking at a car. I check "DVLA MOT checker" and if the car has had loads of fails and /or advisories especially safety related I leave alone. Also check the brand of tyre if enquiring further down the line . If cheap brand then only if it breaks maintenance. Also where was the service history actioned? Main Dealer is good , " Best Price back street" then leave alone.
Don't tend to look at the Arnold Clark or Evans Halshaw vehicles as they tend to be do as little as possible to turn them over stock so you're buying the last persons problems . Great review as usual.
Love the L322. Done 130k mikes in mine now. Drives the same as it always has. A keeper.
Spot on Matt. Yet more wise words and sound advice.
I've previously owned large typically 3 or 4 year old Land Rover, Mercedes, BMW, Hyundai and Kia vehicles. The latter two definitely a more affordable but no less useful or worse proposition - look past the badge people! All however do go wrong with something eventually. Your comments that the more complicated (and thus expensive) a vehicle is, the more there is to go wrong, the more it is likely to cost to fix - are indeed wise words.
Recently I "scratched the itch" and bought (privately) a 2012 L322 with 50,000 verifiable miles on the clock. Did my homework and so far it looks like I bought okay - all-be-it at a high price. Specialist Land Rover garage have just gone right through it and found £600 worth of repairs, including a rear sub-frame rust prevention treatment. I'm pretty happy at that. One of the best kept examples they claim to have seen.
Your point about a repair fund is also critical. Put £1,500 - £2,000 away for the first 2 or 3 years to build up a repair fund is essential advice. Mine has come with the balance of an 18 month warranty but it has so many "get-outs" for the provider to exploit, it frankly is not worth the £1,650 per year it will go on to cost me if i'm daft enough to extend it. They also limit the labour rate they will pay up to - £72/hr inc VAT. Good luck finding a decent Specialist, never mind main dealer, charging under that in southern England.
It will need some unforeseen (probably costly) repair at some point, but i've wanted one for the last 10 years and so far am really liking it, despite the dated infotainment system. I see it more as an affordable Bentley yet it tows the occasional heavy loads I need it to. Being an Autobiography it is as luxurious as these cars came and that surprisingly smooth and (relatively) economic diesel V8... wow! A 10 year old, 2.7 tonne vehicle should not be able to take off and drive like this!
Your advice on buying and servicing is spot on..its just common sence! I look for simple signs that the thing has been loved ..cared for...interior wise..then theres a good chance its been seeviced and repaired with thought and care...another thing is i always stay away from mods...big wheels...smoked lights...sport style mods ...just about anything thats not original...smoked windows are fine if its done properly and not gangster style! 👍
Your stereotypes are absolutely correct, five years ago I purchased a 1973 lotus Elan +2 from a lovely incredibly well spoken chap, radio 4 in preset, expensive 4 bay heated garage, car was ceramic coated, full petrol tank, fantastic last ten years service history....paid above average price, but have done 10.000 miles with absolutely no issues...I also purchased a 1969 Triumph GT6 from a back street dealer in Luton...£8000 later it stops and starts 😭😳
Another great video Matt. Had my 2010 5.0 supercharged LPG converted Autobiography for nearly 3 years now and still absolutely love it. I average the equivalent of 30 mpg and still have the 500 horses grin from ear to ear every time I step on the loud pedal. Thought about selling it a few times but nothing else out there which will do what this does. Also my local RR specialist reckons I'm still better with this than the L405 which they seem to be seeing quite a few issues with. Anyway keep up the good work!
Yup, I always look to see what radio station is tuned, on every car I have looked at. If it's Classic FM, I'd consider buying.
I bought a 2012 L322 4.4 TDV8 autobiography in October. I’ve spent about £3k in preventative maintenance, but she’s been an absolute gem. She’s not going anywhere. The L322 is a real peach in Land Rover’s history.
There are only two new (at the time) cars which have absolutely bowled me over with the all round brilliance. This was one. I'd never owned any LR product before but I bought one new in 02, a 4.4V8 petrol, had it two years, and adored every moment of driving (filling the tank was a different story). Not a single squeak, warning light or problem in that period. Ok, the little passive aggressive Green stickers that I was killing polar bears were a little irksome to find, but I do miss this. It is a big old bus, but as you have so accurately summarised, it is both a luxury car and a proper working vehicle. Oh, and the other one, the new Defender. Unlike the 3 months when I ordered the L322, that one I'm having to wait 12 months to arrive. I can't wait!
Matt, I am not kidding, you answered my secret request for a dream video. Was waiting for you to do another Range Rover video. I love L332s. Much appreciated.
Great review! I wish we had the 4.4 TDV8 in North America. A L322 had been on my list of cars to own ever since it was introduced. I finally ended up getting myself the next best thing , a 2009 L322 4.2 Supercharged. I absolutely love everything about it! Anyone in North America looking for one, avoid anything 2006 and earlier and 2010 and later. These vehicles are extremely under-rated, especially if you can work on your car.
Can you elaborate on the 'years to buy, and years to avoid."? I've just began my foray into land rover
@punhoss sure thing! Anything in particular you wanted to know? From my experience and basic knowledge of the L322, I would avoid the early 2002-2005 years and later years of 2010-2013 (North American market). The ones you want are 2006 2007 2008 and 2009, in that order if possible. Amongst other little changes (lights/ grill/ cup holders/ electrical/door panal design/ dash board martial etc.) The main reason I say this is the drivetrain. Early models had the BMW 4.4L V8 engine, the same as the 2000s Era BMWs 5 and 7 series, and transmission was a 5-speed ZF transmission. Later models had the 5.0L V8 with the ZF 6 speed transmission. The ZF 6 speed transmission was introduced in 2006 and used all the way until 2013 and is not the issue. The issue is the 400hp 5L V8, especially the 500hp Supercharged models. They have a flawed engine timing chain tensioner design, which causes the premature wear on the softer metal on the guide arm compared to the hard metal piston on the automatic tensioner. It slowly causes damage to the engine to the point of no return. Also, it's not cheap repair, minimum $5000 USD, and repair bills for that service are usually closer to $10000 ( I'm sure someone with a 5L can confirm). Moving on to the sweet spot ( I think) the 2006 to 2009 years. 2006 was the first year of the 400hp Jaguar 4.2L Supercharged engine and the ZF 6speed, although the exterior had some minor changes shared with the 07-09 models, the interior design was similar to the early L322s, most noticeable would be the driver and passenger sear headrests being more rectangular than square and center console ignition key. It's still a good vehicle, but being the first year with those changes, I would lean more towards the 07-09, 07 and 08 were basically identical, refreshed interior with dashboard key ignition were the only major changes along with whatever little issues they had with 06 models. And finally, the 2009 model year, again very, very, very minimal changes, very hard to even really notice. They were the small aluminum trim pieces on the steering wheel spokes / exterior wheels. And now to the price, I'm seen them all over the place, I've seen early l322s sell in the $2,000-$8,000 range the middle years anywhere from $8,000-$25,000 and the 5L later years anywhere from $15,000-$60,000. Obviously, do your homework and see what works best with your budget and personal wants and needs. I would highly recommend buying one with as little owners as possible with the most amount of service history possible. And you're reading this far I might as well throw in another fact since I understand your obsession (which it is lol) BMW designed the L322 under their ownership but sold it to Ford before they released it. Ford slowly began to make changes to make it more reliable and finally got it right in the 2006 model year with the introduction of the Jaguar 4.2L engine shared with block has FoMoCo stamped on the side of it. Ford definitely introduced a higher level of quality under its ownership, and it shows. But 2008 saw the sale of Jaguar/Land Rover to Tata Motors just before the 2008 recession. Hopefully, I got most of my facts right. Does anyone else have anything to add that I missed?
If you're in the UK, the best years for plushness, performance and reliability are 2010-2012 (TDV8 4.4 diesel) with the 8 speed ZF gearbox. Can't speak for versions for the rest of the world.
Guy across from me has an overfinch supercharged in black I thought he swapped it in but he didn’t and still looks cooler than the guy at the pub in an x7
Yeah I agree
Very honest appraisal. My current e class is reliable but needed oil cooler changed, diff seals, air mass meter, alternator and air con compressor so keeping a slush fund is great Advice.
I am doing my research into a first Range Rover. So this video has been useful
You’ve actually convinced me to consider one of these. Bollocks to the Yaris and the Corolla.
Haha.
Such a refreshing take on buying a used Range Rover. Great advice re radio stations and wiper blades. Tyres also a good indicator; cheap Chinese ditch finders too. To be fair you often check tyres.
The L322 still looks so dignified after all these years.
“whenever i see one pimped out with black badges or chrome door handles, i cringe” is so REAL. i feel like luxury cars that have been little (preferably never) tampered with in their lifetime have so much more of a responsible appeal.
Great to see my car on your channel. Really enjoying my MY2012 4.4V8 Westminster however it’s not an eco car by any means. For the first time last week the Pay At Pump £99 max top up didn’t fill it Still it is a classic and great family and dog ‘car’ (that term seems so inadequate for a RR) It transcends other cars - I guess that’s a big part of the charm
Brilliant buying advice. It all about managing your expectations. All cars break, and the more expensive the car new the more expensive the car will be to fix used. Buy well, not the cheapest. Service everything on purchase and keep a rainy day fund (or the "oooh blimey" fund as Jayem calls it). If you can't afford to run a luxury car wait until you can.
For me, the best piece of advice is treat it with respect. If you drive gently, don't rant it, don't smash in to kerbs, keep on top of the small things, most cars will look after you.
Oh, and if you can afford it have two cars, a cheap daily hack and a nice one.
By far the best looking range rover. Back lights are the best!.
Had my l322 3.6 for nearly 12 months after I bit the bullet after watching your other videos apart from a new battery it's been great and reliable. Part of me wishes I had the 4.2 supercharged as I've only done 1500 miles in a year .but I do like the auxiliary heater on remote when I get up a 3.30 am which I'd miss on the petrol version .keep up with the great videos.
Hi Matt, we have an L322, Supercharged, identical colour/spec in your post on a 59 plate, when purchased 51,000miles, paid 28k, currently 62miles, owned 3 years, total spent to date less than 3k, only because that’s what was needed.
We would not be with out it, I agreed with every point you made, we’re fortunate financially, we have radio 2 not 4, also your so right, we love the anonymity.
Noticed the tyres are getting low, not really on tread, but age, so time to replace.
Brilliant review Mat, love my 4.4 TDV8 Westminster
I bought one of these after your last video, went for a long l322. Love the car and appreciate that advice that helped me buy one of these
They are indeed beautiful cars! Other RUclipsrs have documented their experiences with them extensively: Doug Demuro, Hoovie, Scotty, Samcrac ... and I’m sure I forget a few here. Like previously stated, I find those cars VERY easy to “fall in love with”! Because I’ve been watching your channel since the “rusty”, “overrated”, “marginally reliable”, “expensive to repair” despicable LEXUS IS200, I’m tempted to believe ALL of the other guys were biased and got it wrong when it comes to the Range Rover, while you nailed it! 😎
Thanks for this review Mat I just bought a 4.4 vogue se l322 in silver in Dec ,all you say is true they are in my opinion truly the best car ever made .I’ve owned a e46 m3 and two other range rovers but gone back to l322 from a 640d ,you drive other cars but love to drive a l322
£13.5k for a good example under 100k miles is very cheap - that’s the price they used to be before the used car market overheated. No need to worry about turbo or EGR valve fails on the 4.4 as this was just the 3.6 model and so good is the 4.4 + ZF 8speed it went in the L405. My only regret with mine is I didn’t buy one earlier. My only worry is what will I replace it with…..
The stereotyping of the small details you see in cars and judging the previous owners from them is spot on! If someone was cheap on a damn wiper, surely they will REALLY cheap on the big stuff.
Yes! I have the 2007 3.6 TDV8 SE Silver with the Brembo brakes and 20 inch wheels.
Once again, great honest video. I’ve been considering one of these for a few months, now after your review I’m certain this is what I’m after. Thanks Matt for your content, it’s factual humours and well received by many. Clearly.
Keep up the good work.👍🏼
Well i done my research and picked the 3.6 v8 sport with 80,000 on the clock and had impeccable history and i gave it a full service and gear box flush and put an uprated exhause 'not tacky' to hear that burble and everything was going great till july of last year and boom engine went bang ! Now stuck with a car saving up for a full engine rebuild 🙈
The buying advice is great not just for a Range Rover, but also for any car. I live in the Yorkshire Pennines and for me the Range Rover full fat job is just too big, too ugly, too thirsty and took difficult to park in our little spaces. Great for towing a horse box across a field though.
As ever, sensible advice 👍 Every car now (unless you’re buying a basic Lada 😆) is a complex machine that needs maintenance and that costs money 💰
I've had a td6 for past 10 years hasn't missed a beat most reliable car I have owned
In short Matt ‘HELL YES’ the L322 is great, but surpassed by the L405 which I prefer as more luxurious, but yes as always on Rangeys I agree with you Matt the L322 just feels like a classy cruiser. Green over tan is perfect to me 👌
Totally agree
I agree but mine would be in Black with either tan or black n beige interior with wooden accents.
Spot on Matt. Something that many people forget when buying depreciated luxury cars like a range rover is that you are still buying a car that cost 80k and comes with maintenance costs associated. It doesn't matter than now you can get them 15k. If you go in with this mentality you'll save yourself a lot of grief
Another great. Video from probably the best car channel out there. All backed up by years of real world experience
Thank you
Matt last year i watch a vid of yours on the Range Rover sport, so took your advice and looked for a low mileage 2010 facelift L320 in silver with 76 k on the clock full history from dealers, I've never looked back its been a fantastic car even towing a twin axle caravan you wouldn't think you were towing anything Only one thing went wrong was a drivers door lock mechanism, but sorted £190 fitted and thats gearbox serviced next month and by a Landover range rover specialists ! Then that sorted 🙌 if i had to sell it i would go for the L322 full size like the 2012 you have just driven ! Love the sound advice you give out !!!! Great content every time and well explained test drives !! ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
A good tip about the radio presets. I jumped in the other day and yup DAB preset 1, was Radio 4.. It was my car that I’ve owned for over 2yrs now 😂😂
I have owned 3 Range rovers continuously, running along side my other cars, for 25 years now. Started with an 1987 3.9 Range Rover classic, replaced after 5 years with a 4 yr old P38 and last year added a black 2011 4.4 tdv8 like the one in the video. Crucially I have a small farm so when with black seats, the cars also have rubber mats in the boot, dog guard for the 3 boarder collies and now a child seat for the granddaughter…. Just great all round family vehicles and I still have my P38 after owning for 20 of its 24 years, also had the odd pet sheep in the P38 taking them back and forwarded to the vets…
The previous owner taste in music is soooooo true, last car I bought was amazingly looked after with Full Service History, it a radio preset to BBC Radio 3, and a Celine Dion Album in the CD player...I made sure he kept the CD's LOL
Great video as always . Waiting for you to do a Lexus GS 450h . 😊
My Lexus RX450H and RX400 are both heavier, faster, economical , aerodynamic and greener. Love the range rover but can't understand why the engineers are so angry at reliability
Because British
@@destroyerarmor2846 You mean German.
Put a set of michelin pilot 4 tyres on and the handling improves significantly.
Love the video. I don't blame you for the stereotypes and assumptions 1 bit. I have caught myself doing that with boats for my channel. Look for the little things and it normally gives you an indication if they took care of the big things. Problem with luxury cars and in my case luxury boats, is that often people have a steak appetite and McDonald's budget. The neglect typically gets passed on to the next buyer so thanks for giving everyone a glimpse of what to look for, and what to avoid.
another great vid, ive recently upgraded my disco 3,, 2.7 d to a L322 4.4 jag petrol and love it
Glad to see you do a video on the L322, knew it was only a matter of time! This is definitely the one I'd go for if I was on the market for a Range Rover, I think the styling still looks really good.
I have a L405 autobiography but if I’m honest I did prefer my L322. Just felt more solid and less likely to break
Matt, you are one of the most honest human being - car dealer in the world 🌍 it’s true, if you buy this type of SUV you must be able to maintain it. It’s simple as that. In the rest of Europe everyone talks about how unreliable the Range Rovers are, but the reality is that we have few mechanics worthy to repair them when needed so most of them do DIY repairs and then they talk on “how unreliable these vehicles are”. Thanks again for the new clip 👍🏻
Thats quite right! I hate to hear it
Most entertaining review video by far...loved it. Own the L322 and the newer L405, L322 all day!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Bang on Matt. King of the roads and the best 4x4xfar. Love mine. And it was only the 20th birthday just yesterday, so well timed!
Very well timed :)
@@HighPeakAutos the L322 model's birthday just to be clear, not mine lol
Your video on the L322 Range Rover Autobiography supercharged in the early days of your channel has what sold me on your channel. I, a Rangeroveritis afflicted, recognised a fellow patient and coupled with it your honesty has what led me to click the subscribe button.
I prefer the later L322 over the L405 as I do find them more regal, more sophisticated and rugged, less flashy than the L405 on 22" rims, and I'm not knocking on them as they're the industry standard for the luxury 4x4.
Thanks for watching
It’s a beautiful car, so elegant and understated.
I've had 2 rr, loved them. Better designed then the Japanese. Its ashame there is no marriage between them. But a RR, fit it out with Toyota's running gear. Sorted. Sadly all the electronics get in the way. Never mind.
Brilliant advice Matt. I bought a 2011 RRS with around 92,000 miles and ended up selling it 2 months later as the ACE pipes were all corroded and ended up breaking and pissing suspension fluid. Had a comprehensive RR specialist history and looked great but I failed as the wiper blades were perished when I first bought the car, haha. Loved owning it, just wish it wasn’t plagued with reliability issues. The specialists themselves (the discovery centre in otley) admitted there aren’t any reliable land rovers out there!
Loved every minute of owning it when it worked.
Excellent Vid - £13.5k is a good price i though at least. Alot of late L322 are going north since the lockdown.
I have just got my 2011 L322 4.4 TDV8 back, having been in a 2020 L494 for the last 6 weeks. I also previously owned a 3.6 TDV8.
What a joy! Driving them back to back, you'd really be surprised at how good the 10 year old car is. Sure, the newer cars are better but, you'd be super surprised how closely matched they actually are. Think of the new ones as 'like a Range Rover but, a little bit more refined in every way'. I have to say that the ride is actually better.
One thing I have to say... how glorious it is to have my super soft Aniline seats back. They are deeply impressive over the normal seats with the black piping.