Hobby Cheating 196 - Ultimate Guide to Contrast Paints
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- In this Hobby Cheating Tutorial, I take you through everything I can on Contrast paints. Every tip, technique and tactic I could find to employ them and hopefully give you some ideas about how you can integrate them into your own style. Hope you enjoy!
1:11 - Basics
25:36 - Mixing
49:34 - Blending
1:16:43 - Other Techniques
1:24:47 - Airbrushing
1:32:29 - Final Thoughts
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Seriously, you are doing us all a huge favor with this in depth analysis. Everything else on RUclips is “what happens when ...” thank you!
Thank you, happy to help as always. :)
I also like that it's not this "they are overpriced garbage" or "they are your saviour made paint" reviews. Just a nice, leveled approach.
Can’t stress this enough, a real tutorial and not just clickbaity overly dynamic videos.
This video is hands down the most useful mini painting video I've come across and not just for Contrast paints, but as a recap for any painting technique and how to combine them. I keep coming back to this again and again. Thank you!
So I bought CMON's Game of Thrones game last summer, my first miniatures game. In the intervening months I painted 55-56 miniatures using Vallejo paints. I bought 25 of Citadel's contrast paints two weeks ago after watching quite a few RUclips videos on them. I've painted 30 minis in those two weeks. Do they look as good? Well, most actually look better than my first dozen or so efforts since I was new to painting minis, on par with the bulk of my other previous efforts, and with some extra effort (high lighting and dry brushing) look just as good as my better, later minis.
I'm catching myself combining my Vallejo layer paints with these new contrast paints more and more, which isn't as fast as just one coat on everything with the contrasts like I was doing the first week with them, but it obviously produces better results. As a newbie, I'm pretty sold on the production gains the contrast paints have made possible for me. I was starting to despair that I'd ever get even my Stark faction miniatures done, let alone all the others, or even keep up with new releases, which was dampening my enjoyment of this new hobby. Knowing I can knock out 1 mini per day, even on work days, has definitely reinvigorated my interest in mini painting.
That's fantastic and if you are finding a way that works for you, then this is the way you should be painting. :)
I wouldn't know, I'm a baby boomer. So I can't answer your question.
@The Rockall Times So?
@The Rockall Times Ok boomer
@The Rockall Times "So" is the shortened version for "Some time ago". Btw I apologize for any grammatical mistake, English was only the 4th language I learned.
I think this is the best, most-honest review we could hope to ask for, in regards to these paints.
Thank you, I tried to be completely straight and show everything i could think to do with them and that I had experimented with.
Vince, thanks a bunch for this video greatly appreciated. About the comment on varnishing and people being scared (for no reason) I would like to share the way varnish was first described to me (take into account this is from back in the late 80's when I was first learning to paint.) "So Rob you're a computer guy right? Think of the varnish like saving your game. Do it, do it often, every time you reach a good milestone."
That is EXACTLY how I describe it and exactly correct.
Why exactly varnish more than once?
@@SaschaKleiber It allows for much easier clean up to the point where you varnished (like saving a game.)
Exactly what I wanted to see, know, learn about contrast paints without the hype! Thank you for a superb video (once again), Vince!
Excellent, happy to help as always.:)
I knew I could count on you to deliver the definitive Contrast review. Thanks. Also, felt like Vader watching the paint flow into your wet palette water: “Nooooooooo....”
It was insane to watch it happen in real time and it was killing my soul.
Nice to see someone who is a skilled and experienced painter show what is really possible with these new paints.
thank you, that means a great deal and glad it was helpful.
2.5 years on this remains a super helpful video. Thanks so much for making this!
Glad it was helpful!
I love these over metallics I use the blood Angel's red specifically for the plasma guns and eye lenses on my iron warriors. For eye lenses I tap the raised part of the lenses with a super shiny silver or white - or the raised edges on the plasma guns - then just tap them with the contrast and you get instant glow on the lenses.
Yep, they are great over metallics, I actually want to do a whole video specifically around that purpose. :)
Thank you for this and your many other excellent tutorials. (Warhammer Weekly is great too!) I've only been painting since January, but I have had a few contrast pots sitting on the shelf that were barely touched. This video gave me the confidence to splash some paint around, mix the colors, and try some glazing and blending on a poxwalker for my Killteam. You sir, are a Hobby Hero and an invaluable resource to the community and to my personal hobby journey.
Thank you, that is too kind but wonderful to hear all the same. :)
Thanks for the Talking Heads reference and the very in-depth review.
I always enjoy when people get the references the most. :)
It’s a tool as much as a paint brush, wet palette, or airbrush. The more comfortable you are and more practice you have with it, the better your results will be. Awesome video. Definitely picking these up now. Wish you had an affiliate link as I’m 100% getting them because of you.
100% correct the attitude. :)
Thanks so much Vince! Always pulling through with these awesome videos 🤗
Excellent, happy to help as always. :)
This is THE BEST video I have seen on contrast paints, almost 2 years out. I got into the hobby right around when they released and never considered going back to them because I only saw them as shades or "beginner" paint. The use of them as glazes is powerful. Never even considered blending or mixing because I heard not to put on a wet palette and didnt even consider mixing. So basically, thank you for enlightening me!
Glad I could help! :)
This is the one, been waiting for this one.
Awesome, hope it lived up to expectations.
Very informative for someone who is looking at getting contrast paints. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
Hi Vince. Possibly the best and most informative vid on Contrast Paints. I personally don't think they are worth the extra expense but I may buy a couple to use as Glazes or Shades. Keep up the great work.
Yes, I have ideas to use the Turquoise as Plasma Fluid as I have never been able to get my hands on the Minitaire Clear.
Excellent, happy to help as always.:)
They are cool. You dont need the lightest white or grey they work both ways. I'm using a dark grey and they look cool
And for those who might not know: the GW glazes have been discontinued. There are Contrast colors that should have the same pigments to replace them. Though, I'm not 100% sure on bloodletter glaze if blood angel red is the same but just way more saturated. I would bet that if you mix a Contrast paint with Lahmian medium that you'd partially negate the contrast effect and have a more even glaze similar to the old glazes. I used the glazes myself to great effect but I haven't yet tried using the contrast alternative.
THANK YOU THANK YOU. You are by far a most excellent tutor out there. Others are just skimming the surface of these contrast paints , creating some false ideas I think.
You have given us a TRUE look at this line of paint.
Excellent, happy to help as always. :)
I have now watched a number of your videos and been inspired. This one I sat through (over a number of sessions) from beginning to end. I was overjoyed at the prospect of a thorough treatment of contrast colors. And boy did you deliver. It demystified them completely to me, and also removed them from my "they are for people who can't yet paint" (like me - I have only four figs under my belt) to "these are another tool for the toolbox". I think I'll wait and learn more about painting with normal acrylic paints first, though. Oh, and get an airbrush, for quick zenithal priming in particular.
Again: thanks for all your inspirational, down-to-earth, in-no-way-snobbish and basically chill reporting from the mini painting front.
Awesome, always happy to help. :)
one hour into the tutorial and then all of the sudden "will it blend?" Vince, I enjoy so much those unexpected references you add to your videos!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I have stop my hobbies for one year. just come back and notice there are new GW contrast paint. so happy to watch your videos again. As always. Your channel is one of important piece in my heart. thank you!!
Thank you, always happy to help. :)
Like magic! Like your flow, way of expressing and explaining. You really make me feel like hitting the paint table and pushing to next limit! Thank you for your excellence of content creation skills as well as painting techniques you are willing to share.
Excellent, very glad it was helpful and happy to help as always. :)
This is for me the best video about Contrasts paints by a mile. I ended up kickstarting the Scalecolors “Instand Paints” equivalent on the basis of this video, thanks to the idea of putting down a quick coat and then improve it with all these tricks to make the final result look good.
Glad it was helpful!
Awesome video, you are the 1st person I have seen who has really shown the potential and uses of Contrast paints.
Excellent, thank you and happy to help as always. :)
That’s the longest video I’ve ever watched on RUclips! Thoroughly engaging, and tremendously helpful. Thank you so much.
Thank you, I know I make really long videos by YoutTube standards, but I want to really pack everything in people could ask. :)
This will probably my go-to, look it up or just listening to while painting... you have great way of talking and describing what you are doing, what you are intending and what the interactions are. Thank you for your time and effort there!
Wonderful to hear. Glad it was helpful and always happy to assist. :)
Thank you so much. I watched two times, not because you weren't clear enough but because I wanted to clear and deepen a few things. Really useful
Glad it was helpful!
In the last two weeks I’ve watched this video more times then any other video I’ve watch ever~~
Happy to help!
Every time Vince calls Space Wolves Grey “Apothecary Grey” a Fenrisian cries and turns to heresy. 😂🐺 lol
I stumbled onto the prime, base, and drybrush before adding Contrast like a glaze. I loved it. I shaded down with a wash and drybrushed up with light grays then did the Contrast w/ a bit of water and got all kinds of different shades. It was fun experimenting. And I’m not a great painter by any means but I’m having fun with it. :D
Thanks for the tips, BTW. 👍🏻
Anything that makes the space wolves cry seems pretty good to me. :)
Ooo ooo! That was me! I said the new bases are like erasers :-)
Awesome video as always.
Well thank you, I agree. :)
As a total newby to painting miniatures I found the content very explanatory Thanks for that!
Awesome, happy to help as always. :)
I appreciate you making this video, going over the properties and composition of these paints really helped me understand their application. Every time I go to a gaming store no one really knows what these paints are actually and I feel like they are trying to sell me their most expensive product. lol You're video really helped me understanding these paints.
Awesome, happy to help as always. :)
A phenomenal video - covered an unbelievable number of topics ... i'll not curse and swear at my weak contrast paints anymore!
Always happy to help. :)
Seems up my alley. As someone who has interests other than painting, taking less time seems pretty good. Then again I would still have to use metalics for weapons and armour and that.
Going to have to play around with that.
Yep, it makes things faster.
Definitely the best video I have seen about contrast paints, thank you very much. I'll be picking them up for a base nmm and for flesh.
Awesome, happy to help as always. :)
Incredibly informative, Vince. You're a real one.
I appreciate that!
I remember 20 years ago walking into a GW store and being mesmerized, unfortunately my terrible painting left me eventually ditching the hobby altogether. Flash forward, I now have funds to actually get the right tools and have used this magical contract paint and I’m actually shocked how well they’re coming out. Combine with the wealth of knowledge on RUclips and you got childhood inadequacies being conquered.
There you go! Yeah, it’s truly a golden age for painting
I don't have plans to buy contrast paints anytime soon, but this video contains so much great advice about blending and painting with thin/transparent paints in general, thanks Vince
Glad it was helpful!
If nothing else, buy a pot of black templar. It's Nuln Oil but better.
absolut beast of a video. My painting procress was fairly simple, but I think with contrast paints and the stuff shown here i decided to jump into NMM and wetblands with my next army based of this video. I really dig the beastmen.
Thank you, glad you like the beastmen and glad the content was helpful. :)
This guy feels like the goofy, fun college professor of hobby painting. I love it.
Thank you, *turns chair around backwards and sit down* - so let's rap about painting. ;)
Vince....I find these Hobby Cheating videos very entertaining and useful even though I do not paint miniatures as my hobby. Thanks a million!
That is the greatest compliment! Thank you and glad they can be entertaining.
Really enjoyed the video; probably the last thing I expected was to walk away wanting to give the absolute sorcery of loaded brush blending another try.
Awesome, the reality is it's very useful, it just requires practice and the understanding it's not about achieving the perfect blend with it, but rather the initial sketch of a blend.
Extremely helpful video Vince. Thank you.
I was quite negative about these when they first appeared. Mainly because of all the blatant shilling going on, but also because they felt like another celebration of mediocrity in the hobby; everybody wants to see an end to the "grey tide", but people should be developing skills too. (I could also go on about the range being labelled "contrast" when all the results seemed washed-out, but thats another story.)
After watching this I'm keen to give them a try. Especially for glazing and blending. If your suspicions are correct and the magic ingredient is just a shitload of flow improver, then they could be a game-changer for easy blending.
Using them as an overall value sketch to build upon looks like a winner too. I can see huge potential for that.
So yeah, thank you for the efforts on this one Vince. This is probably the most comprehensive video I've seen on these paints so far. Definitely a keeper.
Thank you, I am glad it was helpful. They are certainly interesting. Are they a miracle? No, of course not, but they can be an interesting part of some painting styles for sure.
Thank you so much for this comprehensive and insightful review! You are doing an enormous service to the hobby!
Excellent, happy to help as always.
Very interesting. I'm not a wargamer, but I have been a model builder for many years (OK, many, many, many years!). I usually build military models in multiple scales and quite a bit of HO model railroading. I plan to buy a couple pots of the contrast paints to experiment with. I can see the advantage of having a more pigmented brown shade to add contrasts to HO scale figures. Thanks for the presentation.
Excellent, happy to help as always. :)
"and you might find yourself behind the wheels of a large automobile", Talking Heads for the win, Vince you a child of the 80s.
It's very true. :)
some of the best free content out rn
Thank you, always happy to help. :)
you are answering every comment....never saw that, thats amazing. P.S. you teached me painting miniatures by the way...watching you for more then 5 years and i watched every mini painter and they are all entertainers but you are a teacher. thank you so much Vince, keep it up sensei :)
Happy to help! :)
Man, this is the best painting video Ive seen in a long time. Thanks!
Thank you, glad it was helpful. :)
This really is the ultimate guide, thank you so much for this!
Excellent, happy to help as always. :)
Thanks, Vince! I watched this while using Contrast for the first time tonight. Super happy with the results.
Awesome, happy to help as always. :)
I started using contrast paint for my High Elves army and I love it, it faster and easier, and later on I am just Focus on highlights with layer paints.
There you go! Awesome.
This tutorial is great! As expected you went to a lot more depth and information than many other similar videos. I'm looking forward to toying around with some of these.
Awesome, happy to help buddy.
Sweet Jesus. I just started watching BUT, you from the get Go, made sure that what it is i, am watching, is what i want to watch about contrast paint! Thank you!
Awesome, happy to help as always. :)
That brown was resisting like you were Union of Allied Planets haha! Great video, I picked up a couple to try out and you have shown me some great ways to use them:) quality as always dude, in information, talent, and puns.
Yes, truly, the Dunes won this day, but I will return. The battle is lost, but not the war. ;)
Vince I'm watiching this one for a second time and again you got me chuckle white painting tiny details! Dangerus stuff here :)
Thank you sir and always glad when people catch the little jokes. :)
this was my intro into mini painting. At the end of the video newbie me was astonished by how good they looked not realizing what nmm was
Hoep it was all helpful. :)
@@VinceVenturella it is now especially that ive had a year and a half of practice and reflection.
Very good advice! I was able to try some of the described techniques today and they made a big difference in applying Contrast paints to different tasks and surfaces. Thank you!
Awesome, happy to help as always. :)
It's fun to play with contrast paints over a paint job with highlights , lets say a red cloak and you painted some mid/high contrasted shades and highlights on it and go over it with a blue contrast paint . You can get some cool effects .......sometimes not...
100%
Just watching this today, thanks for the "Soapbox Moment." I HATE painting minis. I don't have the attention span for it, and the Contrast line has been a GODSEND. I have four Kill Teams and three Warbands fully ready to go now... I love it. :-)
Always happy to help. :)
Very interesting techniques, thank you! It seems so easy when you do it :)
You gave me confidence to go and try to start painting.
My kids and I simply play a lot of board games, and we happen to have about 50 figures split between 3 or 4 games.
I never painted, but I am in the process of buying some stuff, and found the contrast paints look great for a minimum of time invested.
I just want to be able to play with colored figures instead of sad uniform grey.
I found you shared very insightful and respectful thoughts, highlighting the fact that everyone has their own expectations, and lives, and not everybody is willing to spend hours or days on one mini figure.
Awesome, you can do it. There are lots of tutorials on the channel and I have a whole playlist just dedicated to beginner information. :)
I have to say that having just bought some contrast paints I stumbled across this video on using them. At an hour and some I thought this is going to be long winded and probably only of limited interest but I have to say that the hour and 40 disappeared in the blink of an eye and this has to be one of the best and most informative videos on using contrast paints out there. So I subscribed to the channel and took a look at some of the other content and they are all just as good.Thanks for these they are really helpful and this one in particular shows a range of simple more advance techniques that take even a beginners painting to the next level. 👍 would love to see you do a Black Seas ship in contrast paints or whether it is possible to do these ships with an air brush.
Well thank you, that is wonderful to hear. I am certainly long winded, I won't try to say that I am not, but I try to really pack in all the detail and make sure it's of maximum usage and don't leave anything out. :)
Hi Vince, thank you for taking the time to reply. As soon as I get my current project finished I am looking to start my next, which will be some American airborne. I’m looking to use contrast paints as well as try zenithal priming. I have seen a few tutorials on RUclips which show the contrast being applied over wraithbone primer to give a slight tint and to give some warmth to the greens and browns used for the Airborne uniform. I am looking to experiment but to give the warmth of the wraithbone I am looking to use Vallejo Mecha Ivory instead of white but wonder if this should also be carried on to the darker tones so instead of using a grey as the mid tone shading, using something like Vallejo desert tan and then on to a Panzer grey or to continue with the brown transition and use something to produce a darker colour like Russian green. Any thoughts on using colours for the transition from light to dark or does it need to be white, grey and blackish?
"It's my axe I can do what I want to." - Words to live by.
Indeed
Great job on the video. You have shown that contrast paints can be a good tool to have in the toolbox. Awesome.
Thank you, happy to help as always. :)
This video makes contrast paints look interesting and worth trying out. 👍
Thank you, I find them useful though I rarely use them for their intended purpose, but they are great for speed painting over zenithal as you saw here for sure.
I’m a new painter and I found this video very helpful. Thank you very much for such an in depth examination! A couple of questions: Do the paints hold up well on the wet palette? How do you transfer these thinner paints to the palette?
Thank you happy to help.
1) They will water down and become less "contrast" and more like inks the longer you leave them on.
2) A pipette or shake them, twist the top and drip it from the little curved area onto the palette.
I accidentally ordered two bottles of Aggeros Dunes. I did not know it was such a rogue paint with such wicked disposition. I fear letting it enter my house!
If it even comes through the door, it may just hook left and smash your front window. :)
Thanks for the video, So many contrast vids seem to only use contrast. I do not like nmm so seeing the metallics turn out a dull tone just feels unfinished. I was glad to see you unafraid to do a highlight line in standard paints. My use for contrasts would be skin tones all shades, fur, some cloth. Then I would highlight as needed and hit the details the old fashioned way. It makes my process faster, but I couldn't stop at the level where most of the existing vids do. Thanks for your work on this.
Yeah, the real potential here for me is in the mixing and blending. Happy to help and glad the video was helpful. :)
I opened each pot and painted a sample onto the front of its lid to remind me of the colour and properties such as colour strength
That's a good idea for sure.
Extremely useful video, answered many of the questions I had about this paint and some I didn't even know I had. Thanks very much
Excellent, happy to help as always. :)
Quick tip from my own playing around with these paints: Black Templar over a Rakarth Flesh or similar beige makes a decent quick skin tone for Salamanders Space Marines
Thank you for the great video! I'm totally newbie what comes to miniature painting, but I just got Cthulhu Death May Die board game where comes big bunch of Lovecraftian monsters, elder ones and investigators and I definitely want to paint them. These kind videos really help me to understand more about the different techniques and overall how to use paints.
Happy to help, there are many videos in the playlist focused on beginning painters (in fact, there is actually a whole beginner focused playlist) - so hopefully those help!. :)
Thanks! Really useful video. This finally encouraged me to start playing around with NMM for blades and weapons. As a very lazy person who likes to block in colors and do some edge highlighting these paints might help me out with various blends.
Well good, any experimentation, even that which ends in failure, is still great if you learn something. :)
You are just great. I have watched a couple other contrast paint turorials wir different techniques, but you sir, did something different. You show me how these paints could work for me. Might be, because you are my favourite painting guru and i have watched a lot of your videos, but hey, doesn't matter. So thank you for everything you do and dont forget to...paint MORE MINI...wait, wrong channel...
thanks, and it's good advice, regardless of the channel. ;)
So since you asked, according to what I could find Aggaros is a planet in the Segementum Obscurum that was believed to be home to only primitive natives but was actually revealed to a Thousand Sons enclave when the Adeptus Mechanicus attempted to mine the world and destroy the local population, culminating in something called the Feral War.
Now onto my thoughts about the video and your findings about Contrast Paints; I suspected they could be airbrushed but wasn't completely certain and the two reps at my local GW store seemed a bit hesitant on the subject. I *really* liked the results of the Akhelian Green on the banner and could see something like that being useful in a number of different scenarios. I can definitely see myself playing around with some different colors to see what kind of results I can achieve.
I was most surprised to see their performance when mixed with "traditional" paints since it wasn't something that had occurred to me. Like the idea of the different effects achievable with the airbrush, I can see this being quite useful to help establish some good base values that can then be augmented with glazes later on.
All in all, I'd have say this is *definitely* the most comprehensive video I've seen on Contrast Paints to date and confirmed some of my initial theories about them. As I said on another video on the same subject, any product that was marketed as a one step painting solution I would immediately be skeptical about and would advise others to be the same but these seem to be pretty much what they're intended; a good starting point for people who are new to the hobby and just want a decent "tabeltop" standard on their miniatures, as well as a potential jumping off point for those same newcomers to experiment with other, more "traditional" painting techniques if they want to improve on their results. For people already familiar with the hobby and who have been painting for a while, I figured they would find a role in the same sort of niche as the shades/washes and glazes; that is to say a paint line that could be used in conjunction with other types of paints to achieve different results. This was my thought when I picked up some myself (took advantage of that bundle deal that was offered at their release and grabbed a few more here and there to supplement), and this was after just playing around with them for a short time at the shop. Are they expensive? Obviously that's subjective; I certainly think that they're a bit pricey, but someone else may feel like they're reasonably priced based on their expectations. Are they going to profoundly change the hobby? No more so than when pre-made washes and glazes were introduced. I think my one big frustration has been with the assertion that these are going to somehow diminish painting skill; I personally find the idea ridiculous, since I can't ever see anyone simply abandoning other types of paint and techniques solely to use Contrast Paints and I honestly think that a good many people who start with them will eventually branch out into the techniques that older hands in the hobby are more familiar with and prefer.
On a semi-related side note; have you seen some of the other new, not-Contrast, paints they've released? There's a very nice new purple Base Paint called Phoenician Purple I picked up as well as Grey Knights Steel (also a new Base Paint) that's got a nice, blue steel look to it. The one I was most interested/excited to see though was the new crackle paint, Mordant Earth; they finally released a black crackle paint, which was something I kept hoping for ever since I saw their first tutorial video with Agrellan Earth.
I need to try some of the rest of the new colors, especially the new clears. As I was always a fan of the glazes. I will have to check those out. Glad the video was useful and I appreciate all of the feedback (as well as the Aggraros explanation).:)
This video is amazing! Im new to contrast and this video showed everything i need to know about what and how to use this range! Thank you very much!
Glad it was helpful! :)
This video has been a god send for me, thank you. Recently got back into Warhammer and miniature painting. I got contrast paints as a gift and was really struggling to use them effectively until I watched this video. Only thing I'm stuck on with them is doing skin effectively. Painting a Ogor Mawtribes army and trying to achieve the old ogre kingdoms grey skin tone or as close to with no success yet. If you have any advice on how to achieve this skin tone with contrast or if anyone in the comments has any advice as well it would be much appreciated. Although I assume you get these type of requests a lot. Thank you again for the great videos, I am learning a lot.
Well, the grey is really tough as a color, the more caucasian skin tones or african skin tones are actually really easy for speed painting with Contrast. Now you may want to look at something like Apothecary White and Space Wolves grey, applied in that order, with the second being somewhat thinned. That might help you get there, especially over a zenithal highlight. Hope that helps.
@@VinceVenturella Thank you so much for the quick response! I'll give that a try and see how I get on.
Thank you very much for your observations. I've tried using Contrast myself, and found the paints very unpleasant and impractical to use. I have hideously bad brush control so I was constantly struggling with color leaking from where I wanted it. The fragility and cost were additional issues, but the main discouragement for me was that I could accomplishing nothing with Contrast paints that I was in any way happy with. All my test models looked awful to my eyes.
Yeah, they are strange to use, honestly, I like them, but I use them more like I use inks, as thin glazes to smooth over transitions and enrich colors (i.e. not as colors in themselves, but as modifiers to other colors).
I’m about 2 months into the 40k hobby and started up painting.. I decided on the imperial fist chapter, as my starting army. I’ll just say it now, yellow is damn hard to mess around with in my limited experience. I tried the standard painting method, then opted to give contrast paints a try..
My real difficulty with contrast paint lies in mistakes I make. I’ll put the standard contrast armour paint down, when it comes to the slightest mistake I make, rectifying is a huge problem. You can’t cover it up..you can’t apply more contrast paint over the top..you switch to a normal paint to try and help the situation and the colours aren’t there..you end up chasing your tail so to speak.
I’m guessing it’s the lightness of the paint that I need to get used to, as I tried painting ultramarines and blood angels with contrast..and it’s night and day different. Mistakes can easily be hidden with the darker colours. But yellow is breaking me a little..I’ll figure it out at some point..but damn it’s a tough road.
Yellow is always going to be tough to correct. My best advice is a little dab of the ivory and then the yellow back over the top. that's probably about as good as it will get sadly.
Vince Venturella Thanks for replying. Yes, that’s what I’m tending to find....the sad realisation for imperial fists with contrast, they just don’t seem to cut it. I purchased a decently painted imperial fist (£25 for a lieutenant) as a guide line..something to have close to hand to keep me on track. The simple truth..the basic layer of contrast doesn’t do any real justice to the model. I’ve tried differing coloured primers from citadel primers range, nazdreg, iyanden contrasts, even combined the two to to see if I could get something decent.
The model I just find looks...uninspiring would be the right word. Having thought initially, I could get it to work, with my own lack of skill, I’m finding it’s an uphill battle I may have to concede.
This is marvellous, can't believe i missed this one 😱 thank you Vince
Glad you enjoyed it! :)
Great video, I just started using them, I was dubious but they work great. For some things you can get a finished look in one coat.
Happy to help as always. :)
I’m just watching your post now...(I’m always behind the curve 😏)
But I grabbed some of these paints & your explanation & experience is super helpful. Thanks again!
Excellent, happy to help as always. :)
Great and still relevant guide. Thanks as always Vince!
Always happy to help.
There was water on the edge of the baking paper, where you put the grey and the other colour. It broke surface tension and capillary effect did the rest.
Yep, watching back I noticed that, i didn't see it when I put the paint down and then there we were. :)
very nice video loved the in depth painting and really showing all the steps! im a visual learner and that really helps specially with the wet blending,
Awesome, happy to help as always.
This was great, thank you Vincent! I was waiting for your take on them before considering trying them and based on this I think I'll try a few and see how they work with my style. I like to work with glazes over a sketch and do a lot of weathering, so seems like they could be useful. I always trust your views on products and you've influenced my style a lot!
Thank you and happy to help as always. :)
I actually had a very nice result with the contrast paints over Krylon Colormaster ultraflat white. Specifically I used Guilliman Flesh, Talassar Blue, and Basilicanum Gray on a figure with decent results.
Nice, glad to hear it still has a strong effect, I figured that would be the case.
Vince this tutorial is complete, I have found everything that I was looking for! Maybe you can consider making video on new GW air metalics and clear paints, judging on smell and behavior they changed formula quite a bit.
Excellent, happy to help and I intend to try to the clears as well.
This video is great, but I had one issue - I usually use contrast paints on a dry palette, but following the advice here, I tried them on a wet palette. Maybe my palette was wetter, but the undiluted contrast paint didn't stay in a clump on mine, it spread out to cover a huge chunk of my palette. Not sure what the difference is, but I think I'll stick to dry palette for my contrasts for now...
Totally fair, nothing wrong with that.
Great overview, very balanced and informative. I'm a gamer not a painter but this has encouraged me to try some blending in the future :). Shared this to my club's Facebook page.
Excellent,thank you for sharing and I am always glad to help.
Why can I only like this once? Your videos are by far the most informational minipainting videos on youtube! Please make a patreon so I can throw money at you...
Well thank you, that is very much appreciated. :)
+1 for the Talking Heads reference
Excellent, when people get the references, it always makes me happy. :)
And here was I thinking it was a Billy and Mandy reference... 😜
Thanks so much for this detailed and very informative guide. Your efforts are very much appreciated.
I tried painting horses with these paints and they looked such a mess I went over them again using my usual technique. However, I can now see where I was going wrong and thanks to you have a much clearer idea of where these paints may fit in with my historical miniatures painting.
I'm certainly hooked on your channel 👍
Cheers
Keith
Awesome, happy to help as always. :)
Awesome video Vince! Some super helpful info that I can’t wait to try out 😁
Excellent, happy to help. :)
Great review as always. Thanks! I like some of the contrast range, I've really just added some extra paint to my painting 'tool box '
Exactly how I think about them, glad it was helpful.
awesome to hear about HC 200, I asked as much in the Q&A a couple weeks ago, sadly in the lightening round though so no reply.
Good, it should be a fun one for sure. :)
No questions this time just wanted to thank you again! I've watched this all the way through a billion times now and finally picked up the paints used in it (and some of the other browns and a pink). They're still pricey for the amount and in pots (stupid pipettes are a must blegh)... but it paints like a dream using it like this! It might be my second favorite line now behind Warcolours.
Excellent, happy to help as always. :)
Phenomenal video! This is excellent information, thank you for making this guide.
One problem I’ve run into fixing larger mistakes with contrast is that the wraithbone I have seems quite chalky and does not dry very smooth. This may be user error on my part, but I’ve had to brush gloss on over larger mistakes after the wraithbone in order to get the effect of the contrast working correctly.
Add an agitator and shake the pot really, really hard.
You may also want to try something like a Pro Acryl Ivory or Bright Ivory, color tone it's very similar and it's a very, very smooth paint that should preserve the effect.
Something interesting to play with is put down a GW shade first let it dry then put contrast on top.
Yeah, I should have done that as well. :)
Been waiting for this video! Yours is an opinion I trust and you really lifted the hood on these these paints so thank you! I often paint with oils over very thin acrylic base coats and I think these might be useful in that role. Also quite impressed with the pseudo nmm...I have a bunch of chaos warriors that will be getting that treatment, perhaps with some rust pigments layered over the top. Anyway, thanks again and if you stick with them I'd love to see a follow up vid with any advanced techniques you come up with down the road.
Thank you, I love that you are a fan of oils over acrylic like myself. :) - I have been keeping with them, working on that Sister of Battle more and there are Contrast paints in the rotation (along with the other usual suspects), but I will continue to explore and share.