You guys are awesome and I did buy the kit for the 2013 Toyota Camry 2.5 from Cloyes. Please keep the videos coming. Turned a lot of my customers onto you guys.
Just Wana say thank you all data for som reason does not show certain timing procedures for vehicles only conplete overhauls these videos are som informative and helpful you can literally take these steo by step if need be even you guys are awesome !!
I’ve installed both vvt sprockets chain kit. After finishing I now have a p0017 code. Before I had a p0016 code. I removed valve cover recheck marks. All marks line up. ?
I'm not sure if I'll get a response to this question or not, but I thought I'd try anyway. So you say if the timing cover is off and you replace everything (chain, guides, tensioner, and phashers (vvat-i gears) the phaser/vvt-i gears DO NOT need to be unlocked when installing the new part? So I'm taking that as if you are not removing the chain, just the phaser, that's when it needs to be unlocked for install?
As long as you hold the camshaft while tightening the phaser bolt, you do not need to unlock the phaser. The only way you could damage the phaser is if you tighten the phaser bolt while using the chain or another shaft to keep the phaser from turning. That would put pressure on the internal locking pin.
What did cloyes do to help with the intake cam phaser problem that these engine have , in developing a cold start rattle due to the lock in the phaser getting stuck ?
Can the timing chain tensioner be replaced by taking that square cover off? Without the need to replace all other components or taking the whole cover off?
Hi Cody, what is the bolt size for the timing cover plate that gives access to the intake vvti sprocket and what the size of the bolt that hold the intake vvti sprocket in place. Thanks a lot!
Thank You i been look for this video for years I'm upset this is my first time seeing it. i have pull my motor out three to connect the time cause of a crankshaft p s batch B, so a inline 4 only has 1 Batch A. still have the problem but car runs great. just will not pass cause if check light on. this is the best ar-2 video yea.
Other than cylinder displacement, is there any other differences between the 2.5 and the 2.7? Could I put a 2013 2.5 in my 2013 Venza? It has a 2.7 currently. At a glance, they look identical?
Hello Sir, Thank you very much for this video. I followed steps, Put chain on all the timing marks. But when I turn engine by hand, yes I turned engine 5-6 times but still chain marked links are matching, did I do something wrong? engine run fine after I put back together but it does through code P0017. Please advice. Thank you very much!!!
If you remove the tensioner cap you will need to remove the tensioner and deactivate it. Upon reinstallation, the valve cover will need to be removed to activate the tensioner against the chain.
@@Cloyes01 I've heard you can just rotate the crankshaft from outside until you hear a few clicks indicating the tensioners been activated. Will this method work?
If you are not removing the phasers there is no need to follow the phaser unlocking/advancing procedure that Toyota recommends. That procedure insures that you don't load the phaser's internal locking pin while torqueing the attachment bolt.
That's what I'm trying to figure out I can't find anything online I'm trying to buy the reluctor wheel but can't find anything I'm guessing it comes complete with the crankshaft
Yes, some slack between the cams is normal. Both camshafts are dealing with valve spring pressures. Sometimes this will cause the cams to want to clock towards each other creating that slack. It really just depends where the engine stops as to what spring forces are against the cams. This can create slack between the cams, or between either camshaft and the crank, and it may shift the next time you turn off the engine.
@@Cloyes01 thank you for your response, that slack appears to create the chain to jump teeth, when the crank is turned. I'm guessing chain stretched ? or the tensioner is not doing its job.
@@sonofsteve566 Both are possible if it is a used system. But turning the engine over by hand does greatly increase the chances of the chain jumping because of the violent movements of the camshafts due to the valves opening and closing and no oil pressure going to the tensioner. Even a healthy system can jump time when turning the engine by hand. Rotation with the starter is fast enough that the chain slack doesn't have time to shift back and forth which is what allows it to jump teeth.
@@Cloyes01 one more question please, original phasers, is there a concern of them locking when chain was removed did not hold cam when tensioner was removed. if cam phasers locked would this create a timing jump at crank?
The cylinder head bolts are torque to yield, and should be replaced with new bolts, which must be purchased separately (unless a rebuild kit specifically includes those). The vvti camshaft phasers also are torque to yield bolts, but new bolts should be included with new gear(s). If you are replacing head gasket, I would also recommend replacing the vvti phaser gears.
@@billanderson5774 Seems like there is no way to get the timing cover out. I have loosened all motor mounts lifted motor and still can't get it out. How do you pull the timing cover out without without pulling whole motor? 2010 rav4
@@jamesbonesteel2501 Support the engine with a jack under the oil pan. Place a board on the jack to distribute the weight across the entire oil pan. Then remove the RH structural brace that extends from radiator support to (iirc) frame/sub-frame. Once that brace is out of the way, the timing cover can be removed by sliding it out thru the bottom of the car. You may have to also jack up passenger side of car to create extra space for timing cover removal. Make sure to support car with jackstands
Man I really wish you would have showed where you put sealant on the front cover and what type. Tensioner bolt torque value? This crazy easy and plan on doing this on my camry this winter. 2011 2.5. Has currently 214,627 miles on it. Im doing both cam phasers as well.
Hi derak, is their reason why you decided to do this my 2011 Camry has 120,000 miles. Little rattling noise started a couples months ago, but now it’s got to the point that when engine is hot and I try to turn on the car it takes a couple seconds. I turn the key and it sounds like it’s gonna shut off. I hear the crackling noise then it’s stops. When driving it runs fine no problems at all.
HELP! Why is it that my intake camshaft will not rest in the 11 o'clock position? It snaps forward to the 12 o'clock or back to the 10 o'clock position.
You are experiencing valve spring pressure as one of the valves are open. You can move the cam to either the 10 or 12 o'clock positions and time the engine. Just know that the other camshaft and the crank will also need to move slightly to get the marks aligned. As long as all three marked links are aligned to their respective sprocket marks then the engine is in time.
zawsum. however we needed to see without the engine removed, that was easy. How many hours was this? I just want to change the Tensionewr Assy/ Chain. lol 2.7 Liter 2013 Venza
HANDS DOWN, BEST T-CHAIN TUTORIAL FOR THIS ENGINE.
Your three words saved me from a headache. My first time timing and I got it right. Thanks
VERY EXCELLENT EXPLANATION
You guys are awesome and I did buy the kit for the 2013 Toyota Camry 2.5 from Cloyes. Please keep the videos coming. Turned a lot of my customers onto you guys.
Couldn't ask for a better how to video.
Best video on RUclips for this job. 👌
These videos are awesome! Hope you keep uploading more
Just Wana say thank you all data for som reason does not show certain timing procedures for vehicles only conplete overhauls these videos are som informative and helpful you can literally take these steo by step if need be even you guys are awesome !!
I’ve installed both vvt sprockets chain kit. After finishing I now have a p0017 code. Before I had a p0016 code. I removed valve cover recheck marks. All marks line up. ?
This timing will work for a 2.5l 2011 scion tc right ?
I'm not sure if I'll get a response to this question or not, but I thought I'd try anyway. So you say if the timing cover is off and you replace everything (chain, guides, tensioner, and phashers (vvat-i gears) the phaser/vvt-i gears DO NOT need to be unlocked when installing the new part? So I'm taking that as if you are not removing the chain, just the phaser, that's when it needs to be unlocked for install?
As long as you hold the camshaft while tightening the phaser bolt, you do not need to unlock the phaser.
The only way you could damage the phaser is if you tighten the phaser bolt while using the chain or another shaft to keep the phaser from turning. That would put pressure on the internal locking pin.
@Cloyes01 good to know! Thank you for the reply
Can both phasers be replaced with the camshaft still mounted on the head? I was told that the exhaust camshaft has to be taken out.
What did cloyes do to help with the intake cam phaser problem that these engine have , in developing a cold start rattle due to the lock in the phaser getting stuck ?
Can the timing chain tensioner be replaced by taking that square cover off? Without the need to replace all other components or taking the whole cover off?
Yes it can. It’s a pain though
great video. Can anyone confirm the parts quality compared to Toyota OEM parts?
Hi Cody, what is the bolt size for the timing cover plate that gives access to the intake vvti sprocket and what the size of the bolt that hold the intake vvti sprocket in place. Thanks a lot!
Thank You i been look for this video for years I'm upset this is my first time seeing it. i have pull my motor out three to connect the time cause of a crankshaft p s batch B, so a inline 4 only has 1 Batch A. still have the problem but car runs great. just will not pass cause if check light on. this is the best ar-2 video yea.
Great as always thanks for sharing your knowledge
Does motor need to be removed to perform this?
Other than cylinder displacement, is there any other differences between the 2.5 and the 2.7? Could I put a 2013 2.5 in my 2013 Venza? It has a 2.7 currently. At a glance, they look identical?
Great Video!
Awesome video
I have a noisy 2009 Toyota Venza especially on cold start .. Is this the same kit and install?
Yes, if it has the 2.7L.
Hello Sir, Thank you very much for this video. I followed steps, Put chain on all the timing marks. But when I turn engine by hand, yes I turned engine 5-6 times but still chain marked links are matching, did I do something wrong? engine run fine after I put back together but it does through code P0017. Please advice. Thank you very much!!!
Seems pretty straightforward
Hi! Is it possible to replace only tensioner without opening top cover cap just by opening small cap in front side of engine?
If you remove the tensioner cap you will need to remove the tensioner and deactivate it. Upon reinstallation, the valve cover will need to be removed to activate the tensioner against the chain.
@@Cloyes01 I've heard you can just rotate the crankshaft from outside until you hear a few clicks indicating the tensioners been activated. Will this method work?
What are the cost of a chain replacement? I have a highlander base 2006 4 cyl.
I got it all installed and the car runs like new. Thanks for the video!
@@timocrosby how much they charge you?
AllData did not have instructions... thanks
If this same engine (Toyota venza 2ARZ) has knocking sound, once steam for 30mins time, what is it remedy
Engine replacement 👀.
Great video just did that
Whats tge torque on the tensioner bolts?
So if only replacing chain/guides/tensioner, and reusing camshaft gears - Do we need to “advance” the intake camshaft gear like the FSM states?
If you are not removing the phasers there is no need to follow the phaser unlocking/advancing procedure that Toyota recommends. That procedure insures that you don't load the phaser's internal locking pin while torqueing the attachment bolt.
I changed my top gasket after changing the top gasket the engine started making noise rock rock rock rock rock rock
Thanks
Thank you great tips I like it
Just curious. Is this an engine-out or engine-in service? Guessing engine-in, as everything is accessed in the front
Can easily be done engine in
If there is damage to the crank reluctor wheel you can’t just replace it you have to replace the entire crankshaft or am I missing something?
That's what I'm trying to figure out I can't find anything online I'm trying to buy the reluctor wheel but can't find anything I'm guessing it comes complete with the crankshaft
Hi, during installation that slack between the phasers is normal? no matter how hard i try i cant element little play.
Yes, some slack between the cams is normal. Both camshafts are dealing with valve spring pressures. Sometimes this will cause the cams to want to clock towards each other creating that slack. It really just depends where the engine stops as to what spring forces are against the cams. This can create slack between the cams, or between either camshaft and the crank, and it may shift the next time you turn off the engine.
@@Cloyes01
thank you for your response, that slack appears to create the chain to jump teeth, when the crank is turned. I'm guessing chain stretched ?
or the tensioner is not doing its job.
@@sonofsteve566 Both are possible if it is a used system. But turning the engine over by hand does greatly increase the chances of the chain jumping because of the violent movements of the camshafts due to the valves opening and closing and no oil pressure going to the tensioner. Even a healthy system can jump time when turning the engine by hand. Rotation with the starter is fast enough that the chain slack doesn't have time to shift back and forth which is what allows it to jump teeth.
@@Cloyes01
one more question please,
original phasers, is there a concern of them locking when chain was removed did not hold cam when tensioner was removed.
if cam phasers locked would this create a timing jump at crank?
@@Cloyes01
appreciate your effort in helping me out on these questions.
Thanks, like always very helpful.
Should the bolts be replaced with new torque to yield bolts?
The cylinder head bolts are torque to yield, and should be replaced with new bolts, which must be purchased separately (unless a rebuild kit specifically includes those).
The vvti camshaft phasers also are torque to yield bolts, but new bolts should be included with new gear(s).
If you are replacing head gasket, I would also recommend replacing the vvti phaser gears.
Can you please do a video on 2.7 ar engine full rebuild
Love it
does the engine need to be removed to replace the timing chain?
No
@@billanderson5774 Seems like there is no way to get the timing cover out. I have loosened all motor mounts lifted motor and still can't get it out. How do you pull the timing cover out without without pulling whole motor? 2010 rav4
Was not being creative enough and jump the gun on my question. Had to go through the bottom with engine as high as it goes.
@@jamesbonesteel2501 Support the engine with a jack under the oil pan. Place a board on the jack to distribute the weight across the entire oil pan. Then remove the RH structural brace that extends from radiator support to (iirc) frame/sub-frame. Once that brace is out of the way, the timing cover can be removed by sliding it out thru the bottom of the car. You may have to also jack up passenger side of car to create extra space for timing cover removal. Make sure to support car with jackstands
I like it
Man I really wish you would have showed where you put sealant on the front cover and what type.
Tensioner bolt torque value?
This crazy easy and plan on doing this on my camry this winter.
2011 2.5. Has currently 214,627 miles on it. Im doing both cam phasers as well.
Hi derak, is their reason why you decided to do this my 2011 Camry has 120,000 miles. Little rattling noise started a couples months ago, but now it’s got to the point that when engine is hot and I try to turn on the car it takes a couple seconds. I turn the key and it sounds like it’s gonna shut off. I hear the crackling noise then it’s stops. When driving it runs fine no problems at all.
I like the video gracias
HELP!
Why is it that my intake camshaft will not rest in the 11 o'clock position? It snaps forward to the 12 o'clock or back to the 10 o'clock position.
You are experiencing valve spring pressure as one of the valves are open. You can move the cam to either the 10 or 12 o'clock positions and time the engine. Just know that the other camshaft and the crank will also need to move slightly to get the marks aligned. As long as all three marked links are aligned to their respective sprocket marks then the engine is in time.
Yep. fugured it out. Thanks!
I noticed he didn’t mention the torque spec for the tensioner it’s 7.5
So just to be 100% clear I don’t need a timing lockout tool to do my timing on the specific motor so I just wasted $89?
The tool is not required, we did not use one in this video, but it can be helpful.
That crank pulley looked more like 11 o'clock, but I guess pointed up in general?
Correct. The main focus is making sure the marks align. You can make small adjustments to the shafts if needed.
@@Cloyes01 thanks for responding
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No torque spec on the chain tensioner....
My only complaint is that guitar riff is for Volkswagen, not Toyota.
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zawsum. however we needed to see without the engine removed, that was easy. How many hours was this?
I just want to change the Tensionewr Assy/ Chain. lol 2.7 Liter 2013 Venza
where is the video for the 2.7 3ZR. There are 2 chain to change and no video for guidance.