Imho dragon type is B tier because It have big difficoult with 2 of 3 S tier. I think dragon type Is so strong also because the exponents have really hight base stat PS. Sorry for bad english, I'm italian
@@W333L he even said how insane galar darmanitan is in singles as he was evaluating ice types. but then clefable doesnt care. gen 6 goat with mega metagross. gen 7 easy ou staple. gen 8 godess.
yeah it's definitely correct. some types are objectively inferior/superior to other types (bug has nothing going for it as a type, even it's good pokemon only run it's moves for stab basically, whereas nobody can argue that fairy, steel, and water have always been meta-defining since being introduced. i.e. xerneas, tapus, pika cup forretress, metagross, Lapras, Gyrados, Primarina)
The thing that makes dragon-types OP has never really been the typing on itself, its that they are almost always given high stats and an absurdly diverse movepool
It’s almost like what he was saying about dark, where it’s the Pokémon in the type that are good, not the type itself, personally dragon is my least favorite type, it suck offensivly only being good against itself, has 3 weaknesses, 4 common resistances (which I will admit is good) and itself as a type just really doesn’t do any of the Pokémon any favors.
Nowadays gamefreak has gotten a bit better about including dragon-types that aren't absurdly powerful, with Pokemon like drampa and noivern and appletun, but seriously, go back and look at a list of all pokemon available in gen 4 and you will find 4 total dragon types that aren't legendaries, pseduolegendaries, or their pre-evos lol. And two of those are in the same evolutionary line (vibrava and flygon).
On one hand, grass has one of the worst pokemon ever in Leafeon, but on the other hand grass type has Leafeon which is arguably one of the best pokemon in the current format.
That’s a weird way to spell Meganium, aka Mr. MonoGrass coverage, aka outclassed by Eviolite Tangela, aka literally a giant Grass-type flower that doesn’t have Flower Veil, aka “check here to see most of the generic Grass-type moves.”
Gamefreak: hmm, the Dragon-type seems to be too overpowered, any ideas? Employee 1: let's give another type a dragon resistance or another weakness. Gamefreak: You're fired. Employee 2: Let's make an even more overpowered type and make it immune to dragon type attacks. Gamefreak: Great Idea, anything else Employee 2: Instead of just adding the fairy type lets change a bunch of the more powerful normal types and make them fairy to really make dragons eat their own shit. Gamefreak: Genius.
CutUrTimeShort first off, no, only fire water grass electric poison psychic dark steel resist themselves (I’m probably missing something but you get the point) and also, he said *only* resistance, not one of the resistances,
I woulda put rock way lower. It seems like a liability more than a strength (aggron for example) and it’s weak to 3 super common attacking types (water, grass, fighting)
wolfey: I am world champion. Electric is only resistant to electric. steel and flying: am i a joke to you? Hop: I would have expected you'd understand type matchups...
What i always found funny about ice is, that you might think you can kill a ground dragon or fly dragon for free but then they outspeed and onehit you with normal effectiveness :o
I’ve said this before and I’ll said it again here: Ice types should 1) resist fairy and 2) all regain 1/16th hp in hail ala Ice Body the same way rock types receive a spDef boost in sand. The fact that ice only resists ice is wild.
Ice needs at least 1 more resistance (Dragon, Flying, or Grass since it's SE against them probably). I don't agree with the healing in Hail, but maybe some SpDef or Def increase in Hail?
@based? based on what I get the balancing but like bug will obviously be a weaker type it’s a bug what will u expect most get squashed in rl so.. for balancing fairy and ghost make no sencee
Wolfey: "dark is b tier but dark pokemon are a tier so we'll make it b" Also wolfey: "grass is trash but the pokemon are b tier so we'll put it same tier as dark"
grass-types bring just as much to the table in vgc. if this was a list based off of battlespot, OU, or Ubers, Dark would be A and Grass would be right next to bug
@@trent800 no doubt grass bug and ice need a MASSIVE buff to actually be good. just that grass by proxy of being good against water and beating ground two of which are really strong types is automatically better then bug, there is a reason ferrothorn is superior to something like foretress. Also grass has the luxury of being one of the best type combos with steel or water which goes a long way for coverage
37:26 - yep, Poison only used to be super effective vs Grass. Back before Fairy came out, I always used to think it would make sense if Poison was super effective against Water too. Sludge and waste pollutes water, so it just makes sense.
I don’t understand why poison stopped being super effective against bug after Gen 1. There’s literally a whole industry dedicated to poisoning bugs lol
Xerneas: hello welcome to the brokenly powerful club, youre zacian right? We have a lot of fairy types here, we have the lower ranks like clefki, magearna and mega mawile, and we have ex members like hydreigon.. we dont talk about what happened to hydreigon... its a bit, well, his family died when the fairy type was introduced... oh yeah and another ex member, sableye
“I’m gonna put Venusaur in the C Tier. I’m gonna put- I’m sorry, I’m gonna put green- green in the… Grass! in the C Tier.” the true god of vgc himself, mind of a mastermind
To be fair is carried by his ability, Sleep Powder and Gigantamax, which are good mostly because Grass sucking so much the immunities to Sleep Powder and G-Max Vine Lash just ain't worth it.
I've got 7 AP tests but here I am watching this. I'm probably gong to accidentally type one of Wolfey's beautiful intros during my English exam. When the person grading my work gets to that, they will stop right there and give me an instant 5.
Me: *see’s this wideo is an hour long* also me: *sheds tear of joy* I just wanna say thanks for making quarantine a little bit easier with the consistent daily uploads. Keep up the great content. Thanks Wolfe!
I love how when he was on Fighting type he was like "The Fighting-pokemon are A tier, but the type is B-tier, so I leave it in B", then almost every type after that he used how good the pokemon of that type were as a major point for where to place them
Poison is a good secondary type. Having poison as a secondary type generally improves a pokemons defensive typing, and adds another stab type which can hit fairy. Look at venusaur vs. a mono grass type. Nidoking vs. a mono ground type or alolan muk vs.a mono dark type. Poison makes for a good second type, but on it's own can be very lacking offensively.
I am really looking forward to our first Ground/Fairy type. Super-effective STAB against Fairy's two weaknesses while carrying neutrality to Poison would be really powerful. Ground monotype needs more resistances against Dark types too. Right now only Krookodile actually resists Dark on mono-Ground teams.
In vgc it’s easier to deal with while xerneas has fairy type and geomancy and is a little harder to kill because it’s only one type is why I think xerneas is a little more broken for vgc
"Poison: A substance that is capable of causing the illness or death of a living organism when introduced or absorbed." Gamefreak: "literally useless lol"
I think that giving normal types the ability to be super effective against fairy types would be a neat way to balance it out. After all, the enemy of fantasy is being normal.
that would make sense if normal type is abt being normal, but it could also be like a pokemon/move that is either a combination of types or doesnt rly fit into any other category. see porygon, regigigas, exploud, sivally, arceus, sleep talk, tri-attack, hyperbeam etc.
Bug being good against Psychic and Dark, but resisted by Fairy and Ghost has never made sense to me lore-wise or game mechanics-wise. If Bug was able to resist those two, instead of the other way around, it would've been had a great niche for itself, being a good switch on the four mystical magic types, all four having been part of the top meta at various times. It doesn't even need to hit them back SE as Bug types usually have Poison coverage for Fairy and Ghost doesn't need as big of a nerf.
You think they hate Bug types? What about Ice? The only reason Ice sucks so much is bc they gave it no resistance aside from itself, it's the only type that doesn't resist anything it's effective against. It honestly feels like they just forgot it and didn't bother fixing it. Also Bug types at least synergise well with other secondary types, but Ice is always a detriment, no matter what.
@@knowcomment4525 at least it hits for SE a lot of strong players, has hail and Aurora veil and freezing immunity. But yeah, ice not resisting grass, water and flying at least is also a travesty. Ice types are even worse rock types for most intents and purposes, as it stands.
Bug types deserve to be regularly affective against fairies. And maybe a resistance from dragons tbh. Also Ice deserves better. Maybe a physical defense boost in Hail.
There were a few, but all except one were still dual-types. Paras and Parasect are Bug/Grass. Exeggcute and Exeggutor are Grass/Psychic. The only pure-Grass Pokémon before Johto is Tangela. Literally all the remaining Grass-type Kanto Pokémon are also Poison, though, contributing to another commenter's (correct) assertion that Kanto has way too many Poison-types.
@@astrangerontheinternet1719 Yeah I know, that’s why I made the comment. Gen 1 thought giving something poison type was just the SMARTEST choice, especially grass types
Most “viable” prankster mons have a way to counter against dark Grimmsnarl, Klefki resist dark and kills with STAB fairy moves Liepard has play rough Meowstic Male has dazzling gleam Sableye sucks
"Water types are S tier, Water is amazing." You can actually run a team of 4 Water types that don't share ANY weaknesses (except for Freeze-Dry), which are: 1. Water/Flying = Only weak to Electric (4x) and Rock (2x) 2. Water/Ground = Only weak to Grass (4x) 3. Water/Grass = Only weak to Flying (2x), Bug (2x) and Poison (2x) 4. Water/Dragon = Only weak to Dragon (2x) and Fairy (2x) Of course, all of these are, coincidentally, 4x weak to Freeze-Dry, but aside from that ONE move, they share no weaknesses, which is pretty amazing. So you could run a team of Gyarados, Dracovish, Gastrodon and Ludicolo. Dunno how effective this team would be in competitive, but it's fun to imagine and plan out. Ludicolo (Timid) would have Rain Dish + Leftovers and having Surf, Rain Dance, Giga Drain and Knock Off, 252 HP/252 Sp. ATK/6 Speed. Gastrodon (Modest) would have Storm Drain + Life Orb and having Earth Power, Ancient Power, Brine and Sludge Bomb, 252 HP/252 Sp. ATK/6 DEF. Dracovish (Adamant) would have Strong Jaw + Choice Band and having Fishious Rend, Ice Fang, Crunch and Psychic Fangs, 252 ATK/252 Speed/6 HP. (although Fishious Rend would probably be the only thing you use, you could replace Choice Band with Metronome, Expert Belt or Razor Claw. Gyarados (Adamant) would have Intimidate/Moxie + Bright Powder/Focus Sash and having Ice Fang, Crunch, Iron Head and Waterfall, 252 ATK/252 Speed/6 HP. Of course, you wouldn't have Gyarados out while it's raining in the eventuality of Thunder, but I think this set looks pretty good for a Water-only team. Might have missed something though. I'm not really a competitive player, I'm a Nuzlocker, so bear with me. ;P
@@AkariHiZoru I think so too. With 4 different type combos with Water that don't share any weaknesses but are all 4x weak to Freeze-Dry? I don't think that's a coincidence. Or maybe it is. I dunno, but it's a funny coincidence in any case.
What’s this? Ice type has literally no resistances to anything other than themselves? Let’s slap it on SLOW Pokemon that put their focus on DEFENSE! Surely NOTHING can go wrong!!!!1!one! Like Wolfey said, wasted potential. If there were more fast, offensive glass cannon Ice Types, the type itself would catch a better break.
Fairy: (is created to make dragon types less broken and op) Also Fairy: (becomes broken and op) Everyone: you have become the very thing you swore to destroy.
@@chelseacomps829 Fire isn't bad, but it is limited by the usefulness of the types it is SE against. Bug, Grass, and Ice are all weak types defensively. Hitting Steel for SE damage is incredble, but it is balanced out a bit by hitting Water and Dragon for NVE damage.
I feel like water as a type is being carried by the moves themselves like Surf, Scald, Fishious Rend, Surging Strikes. They're just among the best moves in the game overall. Surf being able to hit both foes, Scald giving burn, Fishious Rend just having ridiculous base power on Pokémon that are already very strong, and Surging Strikes hitting 3 times and having guaranteed crits.
It just doesn't have the stats and move pool you would want on Empoleon. Give it high DEF and ATK instead with like Belly Drum, Aqua Jet, Liquadation and Iron Head. Plus some extra all around good moves. Then it becomes very viable.
Naw empoleon isnt bad. It's just doesnt stand out. Plus its hidden ability is meh. Starters being good or not come down to is its hidden ability good. Defiant is trash on a special attacker.
My list would be: S: Fairy, Steel, Water A: Electric, Ground, Fighting B: Fire, Ghost, Flying, Dark, Rock C: Dragon, Psychic, Normal, Grass, Poison D: Ice E: Bug Fighting is easily in the top 4 offensive types (the others being Rock, Ground, and Ice) and its resistances to Dark and Rock are more valuable than its weaknesses to Fairy, Flying, and Psychic. Max Knuckle is also extremely powerful (I would put it right behind Max Airstream, but you could make a case for Max Geyser or Max Flare being in this spot as well). Fire and Rock are both very strong offensive types that get held back by their weaknesses. Dark and Ghost are both types that provide immunities and are good at dealing neutral damage to a lot of Pokemon. Dark struggles a little bit because of Fairies, but it barely squeaks into this tier thanks to its immunity to Prankster. Flying is really only relevant for its immunity to Ground and Max Airstream being the best max move in the game by far. Dragon, Normal, and Poison are all in the same boat, they don't really contribute offensively. Dragon provides 1 more resistance than it has weaknesses, and Normal has 1 weakness and 1 immunity, but they are by far the 2 worst offensive types, to the point that having one of these type attacks on your set when it isn't stab is instantly questionable (unless it's Fake Out or Extremespeed). Psychic is only really relevant for being good against Fighting both offensively and defensively which is very valuable since Fighting is so prominent, but its weaknesses to Dark and Ghost even it out. Grass has just as many weaknesses as Ice to very prominent offensive types such as Fire, Flying (Max Airstream), and Ice, but it's evened out by having excellent match-ups with Water and Ground which are both relevant. Ice is the worst defensive type in the game by far, but it's also one of the best offensive types. The catch is that Ice type moves get decent distribution outside of the stab users thanks to nearly every Water type also being able to learn Ice moves and Ice Punch being learnable by many Pokemon all around, so it's better to have Ice moves as coverage than it is to get STAB and a resistance to itself in exchange for crucial weaknesses to Rock, Fighting, and Fire. Bug has no redeeming qualities.
I think dragons only redeeming traits are its resistant to common & good types that being fire water grass and electric and that almost all dragon types have high BSTs and a diverse movepool.
Yeah the one is resisted by SIX types (one being Fairy and other actually being inmune to it) not to mention only 2 of the types weak to Fighting are actually seen in VCG (Steel and Dark)
I feel like a neat weakness for and resist to Fairy could be rock. Weakness to salt is a common trait amoung fairies in folklore, and they'll avoid it, so attempts at offense would be less effective. It'd also give a lot more Pokemon recourse against Fairy-types, since Rock moves are common.
I also felt like Fairy should be weak to Ice as well and resist Grass. Fairies are associated with nature so Ice freezes plants, the logic of Fairy being weak to poison, and Fairies would be at home in the forest so plants wouldn't harm them.
Day 9 of asking Wolfe to talk about how mega evolutions would affect the game if they were added to SwSh (asking due to the dragon ascent Rayquaza datamine). That intro still gets me every single time.
Just because it gets DA doesn't mean it can mega. Ray maintained it in smog Ubers after mega was banned and In the non mega format you could still use ascent as an attack
Solid list. I agree on your take on Fairy. It should've had some unfavorable relation to either Bug type or maybe Normal type for balancing, but Gen 6 didnt really care about balancing in general. Ice types can benefit from Hail a bit more, as well as Poison status for Poison types.
I find fairy in a weird position. They are strong, over powered in some ways, their only weakness are from types that are not primarily attackers, but they were more made to weaken the dragon type... which it didn't do that well at, and the strongest dragon types really didn't weaken any. Garchomp is still dangerous, Salamance will still murder you... that didn't really change much.
Fairy was meant to check Dragon. Garchomp, Latios, and Salamence are still very good. They just aren't automatic win buttons anymore. Dragon had no checks before Fairy. Your best option was a bulky Water or a Steel.
@@EdmacZ Sure, but the fact they're still extremely dangerous despite such an huge counter is a bit unfortunate, and that the only thing fairies are weak to are primarily defensive types than attacking types means that fairies, to me, fail at their job of stopping dragons while still beings somewhat annoying to deal with for everything else. That's just how I feel, though.
@@thetruestinsanegamer10 one new weakness was never going to kill the dragon type. Just it being a A tier on this tierlist is proof that it did it's job
I’ve always felt mono flying type is one of the strongest types in the game and in order to make it less powerful they almost always stick them with dual typing. Same reason I believe as a type electric is very strong and why they have to make the actual roster of mono electric types very small or underwhelming from a offensive standpoint.
What makes you think that Mono-Electric is strong tho ? A Ground type Pokemon, which is among the most common attacking type, walls it completely and hits it super-effectively. It is also resisted by Dragon, which before gen 6 was the undisputed best Type in the game, and up to now is still a very good type, with almost every top cut featuring a Dragon Pokemon even long after the introduction of Fairy. Speaking of Fairy, while Electric won't get resisted by Fairy, it offers no counterplay to it either, and Fairy is the best Type right now. Having only 1 weakness doesn't say much, as you can make the same argument with the Normal type.
In the proper order, too. Water>Fire>Grass. Of course since it's a circle between the 3, that means that F>G>W is also true as well as G>W>F, but my point is that something like Grass>Fire>Water would not have been accurate.
I remember when X and Y was pre release I was expecting Fairy to be weak to water since fiction often shows fairies struggling to fly when they get wet or bodies of water otherwise being a threat to them.
I was surprised reading that the possible explanations for Fairy weaknesses were pretty accurate to traditional fairy lore. For example, “cold iron” (or something like that) could hurt a fairy, hence the Steel weakness. And Poison I believe was because poisoning was pretty common in fairy lore. Another user already said that they think rock could he another weakness because salt was sometimes said to be effective for warding them off.
That'll happen when someone who's used to acting more on instinct and experience to make quick decisions has to then slow then and try to spell out their thought process.
Honestly, seeing him trying to remember if Fighting resists Bug by imagining using a move on different Pokémon, it makes me happy. That's the exact way I remember if a type resists something or not when I forget 😂
I thought for sure Rock resisted Bug-type attacks, but I was totally wrong about that. However Electric resists both Flying and Steel type attacks as well as itself - something that Wolfey forgot here.
Day 43 of asking for “Why Machoke is a threat” because he’s got... well I was going to say nice hair, but I guess not... but forearms are better than four arms! And it helps the algorithm!
Day 8 of asking for the intro to say “real youtubists have cool intros, some are iconic but not as iconic as this” because wolfey is a poet and he doesn’t even know it.
I think Normal type's placement is fair, but I also like the type a lot because of Normal Pokemon having, on average, an incredibly wide and versatile movepool. One normal type can learn a variety of moves of varying types, and it makes them very useful.
The fairy type is my favorite in the game when it goes to theming and design, but I think it should be neutral from bug and ice should resist fairy. Ice and tundra is like a wasteland compared to fae woods, and furthermore ice can filter or partially reflect light, which is a big theme of fairy. I personally want ice to resist water as well, and then I'd be pretty content with the types overall. Though many others mentioned it, having ice types gain bonus defense in hail to respond to the rock boost in sand would be sick too. Maybe bugs can have increased healing or defense in grassy terrain can be cool if bugs could get a gimmicky conditional boost.
Flying should not resist Grass Some plants develop anti-eating mechanisms. How does a just of wind seriously affect a plant. They should make moves like pluck still be super effective towards Grass by default though. Theres this other game like pokemon that has different typings ,like toxic (Basically poison) being super effective against water because of Pollution. I won't say ,but typings like this would work well in pokemon. Just give poison more moves.
@@taiphonix9232 I can see what you're saying with that. I think it's the same reason flying beats bug. Many birds eat fruit and seeds, and air separates spores and pollen. I think Grass can legit resist fairy as another pitch, since plants filter light, which is a huge theme of fairy typing. Plus, the wild and woods hosts the theming of the fae, so fairies won't want to bust their home or source of power.
I’m so glad that flying has gotten the respect it deserves! Also notice how flying and ground have some of fewest gyms (besides dark) and flying can have some really good coverage moves. I appreciate this since I am a flying specialist!
The only type I've really battled with is ghost types, and they're really fun to use. I don't know much about fighting competitively, but I love fighting with ghost types, and they're really good too
When you said "Fighting types are maybe better than fighting itself", you were pretty damn correct. I did some checking on pokemondb, which quickly shows you for any type how high it ranks compares to the other types per stat. Dragon is the best stat wise, not surprising, being in the top 5 (top 3 even, but I specifically checked top 5) for all 6 stats. However, some more interesting results were the next most common types across the 30 available (24 after Dragon lmao), with Fighting hitting the top 5 in; Attack (#1), Health (#5) and Speed (#4), the other types appearing 3 times are Steel (A #3, D #1, SD #4) and Ground (H #4, A #5, D#4). Of those 3 types however, Steel and Ground are anywhere from below average to shite in the other 3 stats (highest is #11 for steel in H and SA), but Fighting is actually #7 in both D and SD. Fighting is top 7 in every stat bar Special Attack, for which they are #14, meaning that after Dragon they have overall perhaps the best combination of meaningful stats, as a lower A or SA is generally fine, not many pokemon run mixed sets anyway. Here the list of how all types in the top 5 of the 6 stats stack up with appearances: 6: Dragon 3: Fighting, Steel, Ground 2: Psychic, Electric, Ice, Ghost, Dark 1: Normal, Fairy, Fire, Flying, Rock It should be said though you can also make the cutoff at 6 (top 1/3) 7,8 or even 9 (top half) places and you'll find some types become more or less standout, as I said Ground and Steel would stay at 3, but Ice ranks as following (H #2, A #7, D #5, SA #8, SD #6, S #10) so at cutoff 6 it already matches Steel and Ground, and by 8/9 it has 5 stats, it's only bottom half stat being speed, just barely. Psychic comes to mind as the next well rounded type (H #6, A #11, D #8, SA #2, SD #1, S #6) Flying is also high up there (H #8, A #9, D #15, SA #7, SD #9, S #1) though their combined defensive stats make their spread less impressive than Fighting and Psychic. Ice and Flying are more counterparts in this regard, with both being balanced, but Ice having slightly low Speed, and Flying lower bulk. By the time you reach the top 9 the list looks like this: 6: Dragon 5: Fighting, Psychic, Ice, Flying 4: Fire 3: Dark, Steel, Ground, Ghost, Water 2: Rock, Normal, Electric, Fairy 1: Poison Electric and Fairy are 2 tricks, barely moving from the top 5 list (if at all) Water snuck in there with 3* #9, but the other 3* score a bit lower in their bottom half scores, so it's fine. But this just proves, yes Fighting pokemon are indeed just good, not the typing on it's own per se, same goes for Psychic. Ice is held back by it's typing, it has well rounded bulk and offenses, but what good is bulk when Steel, Fighting and Rock are among the best in Attack, and Fire in Special Attack.
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What do you think of the tier list? Do you disagree with anything?
I think I haven't seen it
turquoise is best type
Falinks is the best type
Imho dragon type is B tier because It have big difficoult with 2 of 3 S tier. I think dragon type Is so strong also because the exponents have really hight base stat
PS. Sorry for bad english, I'm italian
Steel my favourite type ( Looking at you Mega Metagross and Steelix )
"Also Riachu won the world championships in 2016, I kinda blanked on that." That was HIS Raichu.
Same when he talked of 2019 international celesteela
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@@jimmy13morrison Haha. I didn't even notice that one! I swear, he almost never takes credit in videos like this for sort of pioneering.
I'm pretty sure that was the joke and I'm pretty sure of youre a fan of wolfey you already knew that.
Yeah but... was it?
Wolfey: “notable fairy types include...”
Me: “clefablecleafbleclefableclefable”
Wolfey: “wiggleytuff”
Don't forget Togekiss
Mimikyu
i thought so as well but hey clefable is currently destroying smogons maintier so thats enough spotlight for the queen
Til Mania that’s exactly why he shouldn’t be forgetting it over wiggletuff lmaoo
@@W333L he even said how insane galar darmanitan is in singles as he was evaluating ice types. but then clefable doesnt care. gen 6 goat with mega metagross. gen 7 easy ou staple. gen 8 godess.
I love how even a player capable of winning World's can't remember all the type effectivenesses.
Lol
I think it's easier to remember during battle. Kinda like experience, you could have a hard time explaining it but know it by heart.
I know pretty much every weakness, but as soon as I think about resistances, my mind goes blank
@@anti-fangirlfanclub4776 yup
This guy won Worlds?
First thing he said was Bug is a bad Type? And he put Ice over it.
wolfey at 9:18 : "the... thing about electric is that it only has one typing"
me: ah yes, i see this floor is made out of floor
every 60 seconds one minute passes
If you don't eat, you get hungry
When you use Ice Beam, it is an Ice-type move.
Water is wet, fire is hot
“Psychic” is a Psychic type move
"this is purely subjective"
...
"Bug is objectively the worst type"
It is though
I love bug types the most but I have to agree as well. They need to remove some of the attack resistances it has.
Your speaking only the truth
yeah it's definitely correct. some types are objectively inferior/superior to other types (bug has nothing going for it as a type, even it's good pokemon only run it's moves for stab basically, whereas nobody can argue that fairy, steel, and water have always been meta-defining since being introduced. i.e. xerneas, tapus, pika cup forretress, metagross, Lapras, Gyrados, Primarina)
breloommaster12 nah ice is worse
The thing that makes dragon-types OP has never really been the typing on itself, its that they are almost always given high stats and an absurdly diverse movepool
Faaaacts.
Right like all dragons are either legendary or pseudo-legendary.
It’s almost like what he was saying about dark, where it’s the Pokémon in the type that are good, not the type itself, personally dragon is my least favorite type, it suck offensivly only being good against itself, has 3 weaknesses, 4 common resistances (which I will admit is good) and itself as a type just really doesn’t do any of the Pokémon any favors.
I guess Altaria and Flygon hardly relate to this.
Nowadays gamefreak has gotten a bit better about including dragon-types that aren't absurdly powerful, with Pokemon like drampa and noivern and appletun, but seriously, go back and look at a list of all pokemon available in gen 4 and you will find 4 total dragon types that aren't legendaries, pseduolegendaries, or their pre-evos lol. And two of those are in the same evolutionary line (vibrava and flygon).
On one hand, grass has one of the worst pokemon ever in Leafeon, but on the other hand grass type has Leafeon which is arguably one of the best pokemon in the current format.
true
That’s a weird way to spell Meganium, aka Mr. MonoGrass coverage, aka outclassed by Eviolite Tangela, aka literally a giant Grass-type flower that doesn’t have Flower Veil, aka “check here to see most of the generic Grass-type moves.”
@@christiancinnabars1402
I mean, Chespin, Quilladin and Chesnaught exist too so...
@@elizabethemm6361 Whismicot
@@kribyy7784 prankster
Gamefreak: hmm, the Dragon-type seems to be too overpowered, any ideas?
Employee 1: let's give another type a dragon resistance or another weakness.
Gamefreak: You're fired.
Employee 2: Let's make an even more overpowered type and make it immune to dragon type attacks.
Gamefreak: Great Idea, anything else
Employee 2: Instead of just adding the fairy type lets change a bunch of the more powerful normal types and make them fairy to really make dragons eat their own shit.
Gamefreak: Genius.
Dragon type is awesome I hate the fairy type. I would sign a partition to delete it from all Pokemon games
Should've just made ice resist dragon as far back as gen 4
@@AlphaladZXA I wouldn't mind that as much..
Instead ,it digs Fighting's grave even further
@@Predaplanter why though? its one of the best types
“Electric’s only resistance is electric” steel and flying type: ok
Isn't that normal? Besides like two almost every type is resistant to itself.
CutUrTimeShort first off, no, only fire water grass electric poison psychic dark steel resist themselves (I’m probably missing something but you get the point) and also, he said *only* resistance, not one of the resistances,
Oh, I read it wrong, sorry
@@esqimo6647 ice too (just want people to notice that im not being mean)
@@DayFlounder Omg you are so mean
"i'm probably gonna put rock type lower than people expect"
*puts it higher than i expected*
I woulda put rock way lower. It seems like a liability more than a strength (aggron for example) and it’s weak to 3 super common attacking types (water, grass, fighting)
@@DaboFlai and ground and steel :v, well common in competitive not that much in the adventure
@@DaboFlai hey i like my agrron.
@Tsz Ho WONG rock slide isn’t even 100% accurate, what was GameFreak thinking?
Rock,fire, electric,ice are so bad on the physical side
wolfey: I am world champion. Electric is only resistant to electric.
steel and flying: am i a joke to you?
Hop: I would have expected you'd understand type matchups...
And flying lol
@@potatishere1299 True! edited.
Angello Sammartino ...did you seriously think Flying is resistant to electric?
Uh... you mean Electric only resists electric? Electric is neutral to Steel and SE against Flying
@@evankurasu3190 bruh he clearly means electric resists steel and flying as well as itself, not the other way around.
Him: bug is the worst
Ice type: dodged a bullet on this one
Ice type is really bad defensively not even secondary types save it ;w;
but it didn't cuz it's weak to steel lol
But just the type coverage is soo good.
Ice is horrible defensively. But offensively I think it's pretty good.
ice is a completely glass cannon type
*Wolfey debating whether Water is S Tier or A Tier*
*Someone mentions Dracovish*
Wolfey: It's S Tier
Lol
Someone mentions Rillaboom
Wolfey: Runs faster than a Grassy Glide and puts Grass in S-Tier
STEEL IS S++++++++ STEEL IS MY BOI STEEL IS MY LIFE
Funfact: dracovish can be OHKO by a glalie(one of the worst ice types in the game) with freezedry
@@arb1ter993 oh boy you must have had a field day with Rose and Peony
The intro...the hair...the shirt...
This is a masterpiece
Wolfang Amadeus mozart
go king give us nothing
Guilherme Moreira you forgot the "!"
Wolfey: *puts Ice C*
Rayquaza: No, no, no, it's S.
What i always found funny about ice is, that you might think you can kill a ground dragon or fly dragon for free but then they outspeed and onehit you with normal effectiveness :o
Mega rayquaza: are you sure about that
@@Jim-zw7ul Ice go brr
*Snom Crying Intestifies*
@@hmm2692 *Sheer cold hitting* Allow me to introduce myself!
This dudes mind is so cluttered with Pokémon information, I’d love to hear his stream of consciousness during a competitive match
He does that on his ranked play videos.
right reminds me of that johto episode with scizor and laptop dude.
I literally cant watch him unless the playback speed is at least 0.75
I’ve said this before and I’ll said it again here: Ice types should 1) resist fairy and 2) all regain 1/16th hp in hail ala Ice Body the same way rock types receive a spDef boost in sand. The fact that ice only resists ice is wild.
They should also be supereffective against water and bug
Bruh I swear I just realized ice has one resistance
Ice needs at least 1 more resistance (Dragon, Flying, or Grass since it's SE against them probably). I don't agree with the healing in Hail, but maybe some SpDef or Def increase in Hail?
@@AffyMoon No they should NOT
@@sus1984-i5n why?
Scizor:
steel(one of the best types)
Bug(the worst type)
Scizor: *confused tier list screams*
The bug and steel typing makes scizors only weakness being 4X weak to fire
Bug moves are not very effective against things. Bug is not a bad typing to have, but it’s the moves that make it so trash.
@@mintymango3717 correct, why do fairy and ghost resist bug, they don’t need it
- Bug type main (malding)
@@mintymango3717 megahorn/uturn
@based? based on what I get the balancing but like bug will obviously be a weaker type it’s a bug what will u expect most get squashed in rl so.. for balancing fairy and ghost make no sencee
Wolfey: "dark is b tier but dark pokemon are a tier so we'll make it b"
Also wolfey: "grass is trash but the pokemon are b tier so we'll put it same tier as dark"
grass-types bring just as much to the table in vgc. if this was a list based off of battlespot, OU, or Ubers, Dark would be A and Grass would be right next to bug
@@JJSquirtle meh even in ou grass is still better then bug, if you have a look at last gen ou grass is just FAR more used then Bug in OU
@@C3l3bi1 still grasses are carried by their other type he brought up Ferrothorn and Tapu both of which have S tier types
@@trent800 no doubt grass bug and ice need a MASSIVE buff to actually be good.
just that grass by proxy of being good against water and beating ground two of which are really strong types is automatically better then bug, there is a reason ferrothorn is superior to something like foretress.
Also grass has the luxury of being one of the best type combos with steel or water which goes a long way for coverage
Rabano Doom also: "fighting types are a tier but we are looking at types so b tier"
maybe the REAL best type was the friends we made along the way
Sam Gresores sure
it makes electric attacks hit an onix😂
The extroverts are now the weird ones. So, HEY WEIRDOOOOOOO
if simpleflips saw this he would find a way to bam you lmao
JJSquirtle i don’t know who that is but i will bam him back
°~° What did I just Wall into...
37:26 - yep, Poison only used to be super effective vs Grass. Back before Fairy came out, I always used to think it would make sense if Poison was super effective against Water too. Sludge and waste pollutes water, so it just makes sense.
They should make Poison and Water weak to eachother
Poison pollutes Water
Water dilutes Poison
Bug, not grass. Poison is still super effective against grass, but not bug
Some bugs naturally carry poisons
I’ve always wished poison beats ground instead of the other way around. Pollution being my main argument
I don’t understand why poison stopped being super effective against bug after Gen 1. There’s literally a whole industry dedicated to poisoning bugs lol
Low tier : Bug - Ice
S N O M I N T E N S I F I E S
Zac 😭😭😭
Snom is my top 5 favorite pokemon
Sadly. Snom is fairly bad
If u think snom is bad GO WATCH POKETIPS
D3ss3rtGam3r snom is best waifu
Fairy and steel are S.
Zacian: *Laughs in the background*
That man would be broken as a bug/ice type, but nah they gave him the two best types in the game.
Klefki and Magearna are laughing alongside Zacian.
Mawile *cries in mega*
@@sweetandsourspices Shoot! I forgot about you poor Mawile!
Xerneas: hello welcome to the brokenly powerful club, youre zacian right? We have a lot of fairy types here, we have the lower ranks like clefki, magearna and mega mawile, and we have ex members like hydreigon.. we dont talk about what happened to hydreigon... its a bit, well, his family died when the fairy type was introduced... oh yeah and another ex member, sableye
“I’m gonna put Venusaur in the C Tier. I’m gonna put- I’m sorry, I’m gonna put green- green in the… Grass! in the C Tier.”
the true god of vgc himself, mind of a mastermind
To be fair is carried by his ability, Sleep Powder and Gigantamax, which are good mostly because Grass sucking so much the immunities to Sleep Powder and G-Max Vine Lash just ain't worth it.
Me: Has multiple AP exams this week and next week
Also me: But Wolfey
I know your pain
omg same
I've got 7 AP tests but here I am watching this.
I'm probably gong to accidentally type one of Wolfey's beautiful intros during my English exam. When the person grading my work gets to that, they will stop right there and give me an instant 5.
I just failed ap cal today
trying to study for ap us history and ap statistics but i couldn’t help myself i had to watch
Me: *see’s this wideo is an hour long* also me: *sheds tear of joy* I just wanna say thanks for making quarantine a little bit easier with the consistent daily uploads. Keep up the great content. Thanks Wolfe!
*WIDEO*
Me: mom can we have steel
Mom: we have steel at home
Steel at home: TEE
Im here before some crack head would say “why would you want a steel ....”
“why would you want steel....?”
Thats "Tea" in german
Nah steel at home is the rock type
T
I love how when he was on Fighting type he was like "The Fighting-pokemon are A tier, but the type is B-tier, so I leave it in B", then almost every type after that he used how good the pokemon of that type were as a major point for where to place them
Poison is a good secondary type. Having poison as a secondary type generally improves a pokemons defensive typing, and adds another stab type which can hit fairy. Look at venusaur vs. a mono grass type. Nidoking vs. a mono ground type or alolan muk vs.a mono dark type. Poison makes for a good second type, but on it's own can be very lacking offensively.
Weezing is the exception to this, because he has an immunity to ground, which would otherwise hurt him hard as a defensive wall.
Wolfey: Struggling with rating a type
also Wolfey: *remembers a single pokemon of that type*
I am really looking forward to our first Ground/Fairy type. Super-effective STAB against Fairy's two weaknesses while carrying neutrality to Poison would be really powerful. Ground monotype needs more resistances against Dark types too. Right now only Krookodile actually resists Dark on mono-Ground teams.
A Ground/Fighting type would also be interesting (not just because it would also resist Dark).
@@urkerab that pokemon would be brock's frying pan.
I have been asking for this since I got my diancie.
Just mega diancie with mold breaker and stab earth power + moonblast.
Is that too much to ask for?
Maybe a Muddy 🐖
Is a pokemon with the ghost/rock type exist?
"Xerneas is the most broken pokemon ever."
Mega Raquaza: "Am I a joke to you?"
Mega slamence is better
In vgc it’s easier to deal with while xerneas has fairy type and geomancy and is a little harder to kill because it’s only one type is why I think xerneas is a little more broken for vgc
Megs ray:haha i have a whole tier based off of me
Some dog with a sword in her mouth:"l'm going to slice this boat in half"
Shuckle is better
Kouichi Chiki wow funny *oRiGInaL* joke
Normal RUclipsrs: "We're RUclipsrs"
Wolfey: "yoUTUbisTs"
Which is grammatically correct? I feel both make sense.
"Poison: A substance that is capable of causing the illness or death of a living organism when introduced or absorbed."
Gamefreak: "literally useless lol"
I think that giving normal types the ability to be super effective against fairy types would be a neat way to balance it out. After all, the enemy of fantasy is being normal.
wow damn
that would make sense if normal type is abt being normal, but it could also be like a pokemon/move that is either a combination of types or doesnt rly fit into any other category. see porygon, regigigas, exploud, sivally, arceus, sleep talk, tri-attack, hyperbeam etc.
That doesn't make sense
@@igboBiafra010 How to fight fantasy -> REALITY
Wut
I’ll never understand why when Fairy was added in Gen 6, they gave it a resistance to Bug.
Bug being good against Psychic and Dark, but resisted by Fairy and Ghost has never made sense to me lore-wise or game mechanics-wise. If Bug was able to resist those two, instead of the other way around, it would've been had a great niche for itself, being a good switch on the four mystical magic types, all four having been part of the top meta at various times. It doesn't even need to hit them back SE as Bug types usually have Poison coverage for Fairy and Ghost doesn't need as big of a nerf.
Орхан Сулејмани someone at GF fucking hates bugs, which is weird because Pokémon was originally inspired by bug-catching.
You think they hate Bug types? What about Ice?
The only reason Ice sucks so much is bc they gave it no resistance aside from itself, it's the only type that doesn't resist anything it's effective against.
It honestly feels like they just forgot it and didn't bother fixing it.
Also Bug types at least synergise well with other secondary types, but Ice is always a detriment, no matter what.
@@knowcomment4525 at least it hits for SE a lot of strong players, has hail and Aurora veil and freezing immunity. But yeah, ice not resisting grass, water and flying at least is also a travesty. Ice types are even worse rock types for most intents and purposes, as it stands.
Bug types deserve to be regularly affective against fairies. And maybe a resistance from dragons tbh. Also Ice deserves better. Maybe a physical defense boost in Hail.
Skip list
Love Wolfey and his explanations, just for the ones who want to see specific types 😁
Bug 2:58
Dark 4:39
Dragon 6:11
Electric 8:38
Fairly 11:19
Fighting 13:17
Fire 16:41
Ghost 20:24
Grass 22:38
Ground 26:50
Ice 30:17
Normal 32:34
Poison 36:32
Psychic 40:26
Rock 43:12
Steel 46:32
Water 50:10
Flying 53:23
“Poison type is C-tier”
*Gen 1 has a mental breakdown*
way too many poison types in gen 1
@@astrangerontheinternet1719 correct me if I am wrong but I do not think there was a grass type that wasn't also poison type then
There were a few, but all except one were still dual-types.
Paras and Parasect are Bug/Grass.
Exeggcute and Exeggutor are Grass/Psychic.
The only pure-Grass Pokémon before Johto is Tangela.
Literally all the remaining Grass-type Kanto Pokémon are also Poison, though, contributing to another commenter's (correct) assertion that Kanto has way too many Poison-types.
@@astrangerontheinternet1719 Yeah I know, that’s why I made the comment. Gen 1 thought giving something poison type was just the SMARTEST choice, especially grass types
@@tuxedobird To be fair a lot of plants have poison to defend themselves. It was gen 1 so they're trying to be more realistic.
He wakes up this handsome?!
ikr?
Well, actually, he goes to sleep this handsome!
@@gabrielerusso326 No he exists in a tier of handsomeness in which none of us mortals can comprehend
When beauty sleep actually works
I feel like dark type being immune to prankster could be an argument for it being in A tier or at least top of B tier.
Most “viable” prankster mons have a way to counter against dark
Grimmsnarl, Klefki resist dark and kills with STAB fairy moves
Liepard has play rough
Meowstic Male has dazzling gleam
Sableye sucks
"Water types are S tier, Water is amazing."
You can actually run a team of 4 Water types that don't share ANY weaknesses (except for Freeze-Dry), which are:
1. Water/Flying = Only weak to Electric (4x) and Rock (2x)
2. Water/Ground = Only weak to Grass (4x)
3. Water/Grass = Only weak to Flying (2x), Bug (2x) and Poison (2x)
4. Water/Dragon = Only weak to Dragon (2x) and Fairy (2x)
Of course, all of these are, coincidentally, 4x weak to Freeze-Dry, but aside from that ONE move, they share no weaknesses, which is pretty amazing.
So you could run a team of Gyarados, Dracovish, Gastrodon and Ludicolo. Dunno how effective this team would be in competitive, but it's fun to imagine and plan out.
Ludicolo (Timid) would have Rain Dish + Leftovers and having Surf, Rain Dance, Giga Drain and Knock Off, 252 HP/252 Sp. ATK/6 Speed.
Gastrodon (Modest) would have Storm Drain + Life Orb and having Earth Power, Ancient Power, Brine and Sludge Bomb, 252 HP/252 Sp. ATK/6 DEF.
Dracovish (Adamant) would have Strong Jaw + Choice Band and having Fishious Rend, Ice Fang, Crunch and Psychic Fangs, 252 ATK/252 Speed/6 HP. (although Fishious Rend would probably be the only thing you use, you could replace Choice Band with Metronome, Expert Belt or Razor Claw.
Gyarados (Adamant) would have Intimidate/Moxie + Bright Powder/Focus Sash and having Ice Fang, Crunch, Iron Head and Waterfall, 252 ATK/252 Speed/6 HP.
Of course, you wouldn't have Gyarados out while it's raining in the eventuality of Thunder, but I think this set looks pretty good for a Water-only team. Might have missed something though.
I'm not really a competitive player, I'm a Nuzlocker, so bear with me. ;P
It almost feels like Freeze-dry was made to counter this...
@@AkariHiZoru I think so too.
With 4 different type combos with Water that don't share any weaknesses but are all 4x weak to Freeze-Dry?
I don't think that's a coincidence. Or maybe it is. I dunno, but it's a funny coincidence in any case.
You could also run choice scarf
On dracovish
wolfey : is water A or S tier?
*remembers dracovish*
wolfey: so i think water is an S tier type.
instead of studying I procrastinated by watching this whole video. Even though, I have 0% interest in competitive Pokemon play
Sounds like you have 1% interest, and the 1% is in videos about it!
Haven't played competitive in years, but I predicted S tier perfectly.
Steel will always be S tier
The only S-tier that surprised me was water, but then I don't pay much attention to ranked matches.
@@Draeckon It resists twice as many types as its weak to.
@@andrewprahst electric trice tho
I mean types havent changed much
As an icicle, I am disappointed in the competitive failure of my kin.
also grats on 200k!
Ice should have been what fairy is
What’s this? Ice type has literally no resistances to anything other than themselves? Let’s slap it on SLOW Pokemon that put their focus on DEFENSE! Surely NOTHING can go wrong!!!!1!one!
Like Wolfey said, wasted potential. If there were more fast, offensive glass cannon Ice Types, the type itself would catch a better break.
ThisIsntaRUclipsr give Weevile an attack boost and it’d be great but it doesn’t have enough to contribute by itself
@@ThisIsntARUclipsr sad weavile noises
@@ThisIsntARUclipsr even then i dont think that would be enough. It needs to lose one of it weakness(steel) and to get a resistance(water)
„Electric resists only electric“
Steel and Flying: „Am I a joke to you?“
Fairy: (is created to make dragon types less broken and op)
Also Fairy: (becomes broken and op)
Everyone: you have become the very thing you swore to destroy.
Wolfey:Leafeon is okay
Makes a whole video about how leaf won him world
If this were singles, Fighting would be a whole tier higher just because of its resistance to Stealth Rock
It would be interesting to see how this list changes when you split it by offensive (moves) vs defensive (Pokemon typing).
Defensive: Roci and Steel at the top, mostly
Offensive: Fire, or maybe ground at the top
@@Pablo-yu9mc you forgot fighting type with 5 type coverage same as ground and fire can be defensive with 5 resistance
@@Pablo-yu9mc fire is the best offensive type period
@@chelseacomps829 Fire isn't bad, but it is limited by the usefulness of the types it is SE against. Bug, Grass, and Ice are all weak types defensively. Hitting Steel for SE damage is incredble, but it is balanced out a bit by hitting Water and Dragon for NVE damage.
@@Pablo-yu9mc Rock is very bad defensively, despite what the stats of Pokémon and the name of the type would tell you.
People: why is water in s tier?
Magikarp: let me introduce myself
Solid A tier, pretty sure not S (pretty sure dragons are better)
@@Tzzrt_Unbrkn nope dragon dead in fairy meta
@@hecatomb1864 Mega Ray in singles actually wipes out everything
@@hecatomb1864 that is the generational gimmick, 2 years ago it was all Z and 4 years ago Megas were everywhere
@@hecatomb1864 how is dynamax luck based? If anything, that decision making of when and whom is very skill intensive.
"No one is knocking the dark type"
Yeah, the dark type is knocking them
I feel like water as a type is being carried by the moves themselves like Surf, Scald, Fishious Rend, Surging Strikes. They're just among the best moves in the game overall. Surf being able to hit both foes, Scald giving burn, Fishious Rend just having ridiculous base power on Pokémon that are already very strong, and Surging Strikes hitting 3 times and having guaranteed crits.
tbf, that is still the typing, it is just the moves in said typing.
+ Defense
Two weaknesses
And Four resistances
+ Priority in Aqua Jet and abuses rain
no shit, water attack supereffective against three common moves, resist water fire and steel, and water attack only resists water grass and dragon
@@richard35791 dragon deez nuts
Fisheous rend can get 170 base power if u outspeed
Wolfey . Empoleon sucks.
Also wolfey: Steel and water S tier types
It just doesn't have the stats and move pool you would want on Empoleon. Give it high DEF and ATK instead with like Belly Drum, Aqua Jet, Liquadation and Iron Head. Plus some extra all around good moves. Then it becomes very viable.
Naw empoleon isnt bad. It's just doesnt stand out. Plus its hidden ability is meh. Starters being good or not come down to is its hidden ability good. Defiant is trash on a special attacker.
@@DeerayYoDaddy Infernape still strong HA or not tho
@Asgard Thor I said it's move pool didnt compliment its stats. I know it's high on Sp. ATK but the move pool leaned towards ATK.
The typing is good but his movepool is fucking awful
I love how Water, Fire and Grass are right on top of each other in the list
My list would be:
S: Fairy, Steel, Water
A: Electric, Ground, Fighting
B: Fire, Ghost, Flying, Dark, Rock
C: Dragon, Psychic, Normal, Grass, Poison
D: Ice
E: Bug
Fighting is easily in the top 4 offensive types (the others being Rock, Ground, and Ice) and its resistances to Dark and Rock are more valuable than its weaknesses to Fairy, Flying, and Psychic. Max Knuckle is also extremely powerful (I would put it right behind Max Airstream, but you could make a case for Max Geyser or Max Flare being in this spot as well).
Fire and Rock are both very strong offensive types that get held back by their weaknesses. Dark and Ghost are both types that provide immunities and are good at dealing neutral damage to a lot of Pokemon. Dark struggles a little bit because of Fairies, but it barely squeaks into this tier thanks to its immunity to Prankster. Flying is really only relevant for its immunity to Ground and Max Airstream being the best max move in the game by far.
Dragon, Normal, and Poison are all in the same boat, they don't really contribute offensively. Dragon provides 1 more resistance than it has weaknesses, and Normal has 1 weakness and 1 immunity, but they are by far the 2 worst offensive types, to the point that having one of these type attacks on your set when it isn't stab is instantly questionable (unless it's Fake Out or Extremespeed). Psychic is only really relevant for being good against Fighting both offensively and defensively which is very valuable since Fighting is so prominent, but its weaknesses to Dark and Ghost even it out. Grass has just as many weaknesses as Ice to very prominent offensive types such as Fire, Flying (Max Airstream), and Ice, but it's evened out by having excellent match-ups with Water and Ground which are both relevant.
Ice is the worst defensive type in the game by far, but it's also one of the best offensive types. The catch is that Ice type moves get decent distribution outside of the stab users thanks to nearly every Water type also being able to learn Ice moves and Ice Punch being learnable by many Pokemon all around, so it's better to have Ice moves as coverage than it is to get STAB and a resistance to itself in exchange for crucial weaknesses to Rock, Fighting, and Fire.
Bug has no redeeming qualities.
Your opinion is very valid.
I think dragons only redeeming traits are its resistant to common & good types that being fire water grass and electric and that almost all dragon types have high BSTs and a diverse movepool.
Yeah the one is resisted by SIX types (one being Fairy and other actually being inmune to it) not to mention only 2 of the types weak to Fighting are actually seen in VCG (Steel and Dark)
Pretty much my list except I'd swap rock and psychic
This lists kinda sucks.
I feel like a neat weakness for and resist to Fairy could be rock. Weakness to salt is a common trait amoung fairies in folklore, and they'll avoid it, so attempts at offense would be less effective. It'd also give a lot more Pokemon recourse against Fairy-types, since Rock moves are common.
If it weren’t for the fact that Bug so desperately needs a buff, I’d say this is exactly what they should do.
I also felt like Fairy should be weak to Ice as well and resist Grass. Fairies are associated with nature so Ice freezes plants, the logic of Fairy being weak to poison, and Fairies would be at home in the forest so plants wouldn't harm them.
no no fairy should weak to bug
@@RenegadeGamer89 but grass offensively is whack shit, resisted by 7 types, same as bug, just helped with water ground killer role
@@richard35791 I agree with this. It is consistent with Bug's advantage over arrogant/cognitive types.
Day 9 of asking Wolfe to talk about how mega evolutions would affect the game if they were added to SwSh (asking due to the dragon ascent Rayquaza datamine).
That intro still gets me every single time.
@@Ropalme1914 Nothing new since home. We know rayquaza gets dragon ascent
Just because it gets DA doesn't mean it can mega. Ray maintained it in smog Ubers after mega was banned and In the non mega format you could still use ascent as an attack
Unfortunately Dynamax is the new mega evolution. Its really stupid
@@MDHDH-iy7nm dynamax is great, fuck you
@@moisesarmando3156 it's really not it's just z moves for three turns and z moves were bad enough
I cant believe with this guy, he talked to himself for almost an hour non stop. I liked it.
When Wolfey talks about his hair being bad, its like when the skinny girl calls herself fat.
Shut it Wolfey, you're hot
Def part of why he's popular
@Erica and the Japanese national debt put it in a tier list!
Strongly agree
I’m over here looking like the half eaten banana in one of Wolfe’s wideos
M&JTV is far hotter....😍
Solid list. I agree on your take on Fairy. It should've had some unfavorable relation to either Bug type or maybe Normal type for balancing, but Gen 6 didnt really care about balancing in general.
Ice types can benefit from Hail a bit more, as well as Poison status for Poison types.
@Chris P. Chicken Tackling a Fairy would probably hurt it pretty bad.
@@E4439Qv5 wouldn't stabbing burning poisoning and freezing it also hurts it pretty bad?
I find fairy in a weird position. They are strong, over powered in some ways, their only weakness are from types that are not primarily attackers, but they were more made to weaken the dragon type... which it didn't do that well at, and the strongest dragon types really didn't weaken any. Garchomp is still dangerous, Salamance will still murder you... that didn't really change much.
Fairy was meant to check Dragon. Garchomp, Latios, and Salamence are still very good. They just aren't automatic win buttons anymore. Dragon had no checks before Fairy. Your best option was a bulky Water or a Steel.
@@EdmacZ Sure, but the fact they're still extremely dangerous despite such an huge counter is a bit unfortunate, and that the only thing fairies are weak to are primarily defensive types than attacking types means that fairies, to me, fail at their job of stopping dragons while still beings somewhat annoying to deal with for everything else. That's just how I feel, though.
@@thetruestinsanegamer10 one new weakness was never going to kill the dragon type. Just it being a A tier on this tierlist is proof that it did it's job
I’ve always felt mono flying type is one of the strongest types in the game and in order to make it less powerful they almost always stick them with dual typing. Same reason I believe as a type electric is very strong and why they have to make the actual roster of mono electric types very small or underwhelming from a offensive standpoint.
What makes you think that Mono-Electric is strong tho ? A Ground type Pokemon, which is among the most common attacking type, walls it completely and hits it super-effectively. It is also resisted by Dragon, which before gen 6 was the undisputed best Type in the game, and up to now is still a very good type, with almost every top cut featuring a Dragon Pokemon even long after the introduction of Fairy. Speaking of Fairy, while Electric won't get resisted by Fairy, it offers no counterplay to it either, and Fairy is the best Type right now. Having only 1 weakness doesn't say much, as you can make the same argument with the Normal type.
The 3 starter types ended up in the same column. Totally planned
In the proper order, too. Water>Fire>Grass.
Of course since it's a circle between the 3, that means that F>G>W is also true as well as G>W>F, but my point is that something like Grass>Fire>Water would not have been accurate.
I remember when X and Y was pre release I was expecting Fairy to be weak to water since fiction often shows fairies struggling to fly when they get wet or bodies of water otherwise being a threat to them.
I was surprised reading that the possible explanations for Fairy weaknesses were pretty accurate to traditional fairy lore. For example, “cold iron” (or something like that) could hurt a fairy, hence the Steel weakness. And Poison I believe was because poisoning was pretty common in fairy lore.
Another user already said that they think rock could he another weakness because salt was sometimes said to be effective for warding them off.
@@alexisschiffer4830 Or make fairy weak to normal. To beat fantasy one need to face reality.
@@alexisschiffer4830well anything’s weak to iron if you hit it hard enough.
i want a tier list for wolfey's different hair
I'd really like to see somethig similar to this for items.
Totally!
I can see weakness policy in the S tier already
"Ghost is immune to normal which isn't a very common type"
5 seconds later...
"Normal is immune to ghost and normal is a very common type"
u wot
That'll happen when someone who's used to acting more on instinct and experience to make quick decisions has to then slow then and try to spell out their thought process.
@@Draeckon Normal moves aren't common. Normal pokemon *are* common
“Incineroar will be weak to fighting when it’s legal.” When was this filmed?
I think he misspoke, since he did do the intro
Aaron de Cuba oh that makes sense
Jimbob Joe I’m pretty sure the world championships were going to follow series 4 rules, I’m not too sure though
He meant "Incineroar is weak to fighting, in the formats that it is legal"
Steel has always been my favorite type, even before I got into competitive. I believe my first steel mon was Aron in pokemon Ruby
Aron is Epic
Honestly, seeing him trying to remember if Fighting resists Bug by imagining using a move on different Pokémon, it makes me happy. That's the exact way I remember if a type resists something or not when I forget 😂
40:30
Wolfe: *remebering Psychic-type's weaknesses and resistances*
Me: *vibing to 8-bit Wally's theme*
I started laughing when you started listing the weaknesses to fighting and immediately moved it up.
I thought for sure Rock resisted Bug-type attacks, but I was totally wrong about that.
However Electric resists both Flying and Steel type attacks as well as itself - something that Wolfey forgot here.
Loving the new editing style with all the memes
Manufacturers, architects, and Pokémon trainers: “Steel is just so important”
28:59 i'm glad that someone finally takes accuracy into account.
Well this just makes me love the bug type even more
Day 43 of asking for “Why Machoke is a threat” because he’s got... well I was going to say nice hair, but I guess not... but forearms are better than four arms! And it helps the algorithm!
This is dedication
#teamforearms
My reality shattered when i heard him pronounce decidueye as dekidewey
looool that agency reference on the scald had me dying. agency agency
THAT AGENCY PLUG AT 52:04 WAS THE BEST THING I HAVE EVER SEEN HAHAHAHAHAH
in gen 1, dragon had a rough start thanks to its move being a really bad move in d rage who always does 40 damage every single time
Them: "Did you know you can edit clips and memes into your wideos?"
Wolfe: "It goes to 11!"
Day 8 of asking for the intro to say “real youtubists have cool intros, some are iconic but not as iconic as this” because wolfey is a poet and he doesn’t even know it.
I think Normal type's placement is fair, but I also like the type a lot because of Normal Pokemon having, on average, an incredibly wide and versatile movepool. One normal type can learn a variety of moves of varying types, and it makes them very useful.
I love how he starts off every video with "there I was"
The fairy type is my favorite in the game when it goes to theming and design, but I think it should be neutral from bug and ice should resist fairy.
Ice and tundra is like a wasteland compared to fae woods, and furthermore ice can filter or partially reflect light, which is a big theme of fairy.
I personally want ice to resist water as well, and then I'd be pretty content with the types overall.
Though many others mentioned it, having ice types gain bonus defense in hail to respond to the rock boost in sand would be sick too.
Maybe bugs can have increased healing or defense in grassy terrain can be cool if bugs could get a gimmicky conditional boost.
Flying should not resist Grass
Some plants develop anti-eating mechanisms. How does a just of wind seriously affect a plant. They should make moves like pluck still be super effective towards Grass by default though.
Theres this other game like pokemon that has different typings ,like toxic (Basically poison) being super effective against water because of Pollution. I won't say ,but typings like this would work well in pokemon. Just give poison more moves.
@@taiphonix9232 I can see what you're saying with that. I think it's the same reason flying beats bug. Many birds eat fruit and seeds, and air separates spores and pollen.
I think Grass can legit resist fairy as another pitch, since plants filter light, which is a huge theme of fairy typing. Plus, the wild and woods hosts the theming of the fae, so fairies won't want to bust their home or source of power.
@@BestgirlJordanfish I was going to say that grass should be at least neutral to fairy ,but didn't say because I focused on 1 topic
@@taiphonix9232 totes good my fam
“I think ice is c-tier”
Me with 20 bred ice types that I swap out on 3 separate saved battle teams: yes.
Don't forget about the passive bonuses some types have. Like grass being immune to spore moves or fire being immune to burn.
I’m so glad that flying has gotten the respect it deserves! Also notice how flying and ground have some of fewest gyms (besides dark) and flying can have some really good coverage moves.
I appreciate this since I am a flying specialist!
I find it really impressive you were able to list all the weakness and resistances of a type without a single cut, this is truly the champion 💪
Except he made a lot of mistakes and doubled back on his statements often
@@lebisketman1274 still pretty impressive, no one is perfect, I can barely tell all of the type matchups most of the time let alone the resistances
His hair makes me thinks he’s been going through the slowest super saiyan transformation ever over the past couple of weeks. Soon he’ll be blonde.
The only type I've really battled with is ghost types, and they're really fun to use. I don't know much about fighting competitively, but I love fighting with ghost types, and they're really good too
My non-competitive team of normal types hates your non-competitive team of ghost types
Shit I had no idea Wolfe has a RUclips channel....I am in awe of this man. If there was a real life Pokémon master or Champion, it’s this guy.
S tier: exists
Zacian: *let me introduce myself*
When you said "Fighting types are maybe better than fighting itself", you were pretty damn correct.
I did some checking on pokemondb, which quickly shows you for any type how high it ranks compares to the other types per stat.
Dragon is the best stat wise, not surprising, being in the top 5 (top 3 even, but I specifically checked top 5) for all 6 stats.
However, some more interesting results were the next most common types across the 30 available (24 after Dragon lmao), with Fighting hitting the top 5 in; Attack (#1), Health (#5) and Speed (#4), the other types appearing 3 times are Steel (A #3, D #1, SD #4) and Ground (H #4, A #5, D#4).
Of those 3 types however, Steel and Ground are anywhere from below average to shite in the other 3 stats (highest is #11 for steel in H and SA), but Fighting is actually #7 in both D and SD.
Fighting is top 7 in every stat bar Special Attack, for which they are #14, meaning that after Dragon they have overall perhaps the best combination of meaningful stats, as a lower A or SA is generally fine, not many pokemon run mixed sets anyway.
Here the list of how all types in the top 5 of the 6 stats stack up with appearances:
6: Dragon
3: Fighting, Steel, Ground
2: Psychic, Electric, Ice, Ghost, Dark
1: Normal, Fairy, Fire, Flying, Rock
It should be said though you can also make the cutoff at 6 (top 1/3) 7,8 or even 9 (top half) places and you'll find some types become more or less standout, as I said Ground and Steel would stay at 3, but Ice ranks as following (H #2, A #7, D #5, SA #8, SD #6, S #10) so at cutoff 6 it already matches Steel and Ground, and by 8/9 it has 5 stats, it's only bottom half stat being speed, just barely.
Psychic comes to mind as the next well rounded type (H #6, A #11, D #8, SA #2, SD #1, S #6)
Flying is also high up there (H #8, A #9, D #15, SA #7, SD #9, S #1) though their combined defensive stats make their spread less impressive than Fighting and Psychic. Ice and Flying are more counterparts in this regard, with both being balanced, but Ice having slightly low Speed, and Flying lower bulk.
By the time you reach the top 9 the list looks like this:
6: Dragon
5: Fighting, Psychic, Ice, Flying
4: Fire
3: Dark, Steel, Ground, Ghost, Water
2: Rock, Normal, Electric, Fairy
1: Poison
Electric and Fairy are 2 tricks, barely moving from the top 5 list (if at all) Water snuck in there with 3* #9, but the other 3* score a bit lower in their bottom half scores, so it's fine.
But this just proves, yes Fighting pokemon are indeed just good, not the typing on it's own per se, same goes for Psychic.
Ice is held back by it's typing, it has well rounded bulk and offenses, but what good is bulk when Steel, Fighting and Rock are among the best in Attack, and Fire in Special Attack.
I love how raw his vids are.... like they are so unedited it’s great
‘People have run bulky gengar’ flashbacks to the iron ball counter Death Fodder gengar against Emvee