I own a Z6 and the 24-70 F4 and frankly it’s an excellent lens, great for landscape, takes decent portraits, and also take pretty nice macro shots. I travelled for 2 weeks in Canada with it had some amazing results with it. I think it’s one of the best kit lenses any brand has to offer.
Bought the Z7 very recently, a few days before a trip to the Amalfi Coast in Italy. I intended to use it with a trio of high performance m-mount lenses to keep the gear light and compact. the store gently encouraged me to get the Z7 with the "kit lens". I was reluctant as I dislike zooms and large lenses, but took it nonetheless to have a taste of native mount. Long story short, I never swapped lenses during my whole trip. The 24-70 f/4 is an amazing lens and leverages all of the Z body features, starting with full spectrum of IBIS and superb AF. The results were irreproachable, including in low light, and f/4 is fast enough to play with bokeh at the longer end. The gear was light enough, and got even lighter on day 3 when I decided to leave my bag and other lenses in the hotel room for good. This was an unexpected revelation and drives me to completely agree with your,own assessment.
From what I've seen the F4 is in it's own right a good lens and for consumers it's a great buy. For very serious photographers maybe they need that extra stop, but for the rest of us it's a very good lens.
I have had mostly kit Nikon lenses and had some great photos with them. But when I got my prime lenses they are so much better. When I purchased my Z6 with the 24-70 f/4 it is the best kit lens I have used. If Nikon would build all there kit lens with a constant f/4 throughout the zoom. It would give new camera owners a better experience with there new camera.
The 24-70mm f/4 is by far the best kit lens I've ever had, including the Fuji 18-55mm f/2.8-4. One of the things I love about the 24-70mm is how close you can get with a 0.30x magnification ratio. I wouldn't switch it for the f/2.8 because of the light weight.
This is a great lens... I love it along with the 14-30 its almost perfect. if Nikon delivers on the 24-120 f4 Z mount I will be the happiest 2 lens photographer on the planet!
I really like this kit lens. It’s a huge step up from my previous experiences with kit lenses. I like how compact it is. It easily fits into my smaller (lighter) camera bag. And it does 98 percent of what I need. I can’t ask anything more of it.
I find this lens crucial for general compactness when I throw my Z into my backpack. It's not like we don't have faster glass available if the scene calls for that.
Hi, thanks for the expert view. I bought the kit lens purely as I am restarting my general photography. Circumstances have conspired against me finding much time and I feel that it is a foot back in the door, not too ambitious too soon. It hasn't broken the Bank, and learning to use the camera with a light lens will ensure, I feel, that I regain that enthusiasm. Thank you, Norman
If you get this along with your Z6/Z7 body I think this is tremendous value for money! It is a great travel lens. I have even shot some astro with it and it came out great owing to the great low light performance of my Z6. It is light, has a constant aperture, is weather sealed and is very very sharp! I subjected my Z6 with the kit lens to temperatures reaching minus 35 degrees celsius with lots of snowfall and had no issues with it. Even portraits at the long end are decent when you don't have fast primes lying around or just don't have the time to change lenses.
Great lens. I would love to get a 70-200 f4 to add to it. I pre-ordered the new 24-200 variable aperture Nikon Z a few days ago but would still like an f4. So far my favorite z lens is the 50 1.8.
Yeah. Shot through three different BLM protests with the f4S and the results were impressive. I also have the 50mm 1.8S and it's just fabulous. I can't imagine needing anything else at the moment.
I’m not invested into the z system yet but when I am I will certainly get this lens. Probably the perfect travel lens. I would use primes at home and just take the one lens when travelling.
In general as goes kit lenses, does anyone remember the 24-85mm VR kit for the D610? Well, this is a superb lens hands down; and what made it so spectacular, was that it is ideal for travel and vacation. This is the heart of the initial selling feature for mirrorless-compactness. Well, as we all know, better images-consistently, requires bigger glass; mirrorless or otherwise. So when it comes to travel and leisure, kits will always be necessary. They’re not the best, but they are also no the worst.
I had Z7 body for 3 months before I just recently picked up the 24-70 f4 used. Took a 4 day trip into the Smoky Mountains and wow...I just can't believe the quality of they lens. I need took the lens off my camera the whole trip, never found a need to.
I've always had f/2.8 zooms, but this is so small, light and sharp at all settings that I can't resist it - especially as it's so cheap used, because so many people upgraded to the f/2.8!
I planned on upgrading from my D610 to the Z6II, and this 24-70 F4 seems to be the perfect companion until I can afford my go-to Primes (35mm, 85mm, & 135mm) for the new Z-mount.
The 24-70 F/4 is a stellar lens for landscapes with my Z7. Combined with the camera's built in image stabilization, I can avoid using the tripod often. I have pre-ordered the Z 24-200 F/4-6.3 for high altitude mountain photography. I can always add my Z 35mm 1.8 prime when I travel light.
Sometimes kit lenses are highly underrated, but generally, they get the bad rap that they deserve, because more often than not, they earn their reputation as being a compromise of cost to performance and convenience (size/weight). But sometimes, you get lenses like the DX AF-P 18-55mm, the DX 16-50mm Z, and the S-Line 24-70 f4 Z. Would gladly buy a S-Line 70-200 f4 Z kit lens for a minimal load out for hiking trips.
My first digital SLR was a D70 shortly after they came out. I purchased it with the kit 18-70. That was (for the time) a great lens for the the price point. It wasn’t until the Z 24-70 f4 that I have been as happy. The Z 24-70 is likely the best “kit” zoom lens that has been sold with a consumer SLR. I’ve been very happy with it. Like others, I’m looking forward to your review of the firmware update to 3.0.
If you are shooting professional level stuff, then kit lenses probably won't do the job. I think that Fuji offers a good "kit lens" equivalent in the 18-55 2.8-4 which I shot with A LOT when I used Fuji. Canon's 24 - 105 f4 seems good, and I'm looking at Nikon Z6 with 24-70 f4 as my entry into full frame. I think these f4 24-105 kit lenses should become the new standard because they offer a really good quality lens for people like myself (hobbyists) who want a good camera but maybe can't justify dropping tons on 2.8 zoom glass (although having the FTZ ring is a good way to get quality F-mount equivalent lenses!) , and in a lot of cases just removes the need entirely for another zoom lens. I personally rarely find myself wanting to go more open than F4 on a zoom lens, so 2.8 is overkill, and it also keeps the size down making them awesome for travel. I do wish that Nikon had made a 24 - 105 f4 as the standard for the Z system, but I can also completely understand why they went with 24 - 70, and I think I'll be more than happy with f4.
This is the second kit lens I have owned, the first being the AFS 24-85 f3.5-4.5 G VR with my D600 and this lens with the Z6ll. Love them both, still have the 24-85 that I use with my D810. Both lightweight with great performance. I mainly shoot landscape so I'm usually shooting stopped down anyway.
For some reason, here in Canada Nikon offers the 24-70 f/4 at discount if you purchase it with the Z5 - but not in the U.S.. So I bought them as a kit (FTZ adapter was also at a discount). Considering the "entry level" label afforded to the Z5, and the slower aperture of the lens than the f/2.8, this a more natural camera/lens pairing than, say the Z7II/24-70 combo available in the U.S. One thing, though ... you'll have to call it "Zed", not a "Zee".
I do not want to afford a 24-70 F2.8 AND a 14-24 f2.8 for my Z9 and Z6 bodies. Since I run a business that demands I use a wide angle, I have decided to buy this lens AND the 14-24 f2.8 . The 14-30 f4 was just too big a compromise for the business end of things. Good video. Thanks.
In one of the photos you were adapting a Canon lens on the z50, with the help of Techart ef to z adapter. How does it perform? I've heard another ef to z adapter from Fringer, which seems to have excellent performance. Maybe you can try that one too.
Good form factor and quality. I do wish the new 24-200 was also an S type, because I would love to see that quality extended a bit longer, but will be very eager to see how it performs.
@@danielmcdonald9917 I have no comparison, but I have been shooting the 24-200 for a couple of months now and it is outstanding - especially if you are able to stop down a stop or two, but if not, shoot with confidence anyway!
If it is just as good once stopped down more than fine for me, I very very seldom shoot below 5.6 usually 8 or 11 as I'm more a landscape shooter. This looks the perfect travel lens for me, I love the collapsible design, as my main issue with lenses when I'm walking around is them bouncing around hitting me etc, once I take the shot I dont care about the size its just easier to take around thats all.
At the minut 01:00 there are some picture from Z50 (DX) + 24-70mm. Did you compare the picture quality of Z50+24-70mm and (Z50+16-50 or even Z50+50-250mm)? I mean using this full frame lens 24-70 instead of the kit lens of Z50: 16-50 and 50-250. I know, taking into consideration that 24-70mm on Z50 will be around 36-105mm. I ask because I'm thinking to get this 24-70mm and to use for a while with my Z50 with the plan I will switch to a Nikon Z6II in the future. And, for that moment, to already have this 24-70 f4.
I think it really depends on the kit lens. I love the 24-105mm. And well i used to use the 18-55mm on my D5100 a lot and haven't really bought a replacement for it.
For long expo, it is the best option hands down. Most of the time landscapes photographers us it stoped down to f8. Lightweight and sharper than both Nikon 24-70 f2.8 F mount lenses. No brainer in my opinion.
The Best Kit Lens I ever enjoyed with DSLR ist 24-120 f/4.0 because off I am more than 90% ab 5,6, shooter and never shoot with the full opening of a lens unless a wide F length e.g. Tamaron 17-35 f/2,8
Personally I would have preferred a 24-105 f/4 as a kit lens. Others I have spoken too would prefer an even larger range and give up speed (not me, but I already have adaptable lenses). I really thought I would just use my f mount 24-70 f2.8 more, but that lens is soooooo front heavy, especially adapted, that I avoid it at every turn. For $500 it really is a good lens, especially if Nikon can loose the click to lock thing, it's just annoying.
Great tutorial and review on the Nikon Kit Lens. I really appreciate how you objectively compared the newer 24-70 f 2.8S to the kit lens that came with my Z6. I am new to photography, as a hobby, and I am blown away with the quality of the pictures I can capture knowing as little as I do. Maybe the 24-70 f4S is all I will ever need - but, I find myself struggling with lighting and shutter speed - and perhaps a wider lens angle is something that would complement what I have. Any thoughts? As a complete hack/amateur, should I be looking at prime lenses? Should I step up to the 70-200 f2.8 VRS? Any feedback would be appreciated!
What do you think about this lens for video compared with the 2.8? It's much smaller and lighter and better balanced on a gimbal but missing the shallow depth of field possibilities.
Hello, wanted to say I enjoy your videos, very helpful. I have a question if you have time and opportunity to reply. I used to work in a camera store many years ago, before the digital age. I am just re-entering the world of photography. I am planning to purchase either a Z6 or a Z5. Leaning towards the Z6 as the price difference is only $250 here in Canada. I am wondering if you have a recommendation for the lens. I can get the 24-70 f4 with it. However for the same money my local store has a used 24-70 F mount f2.8G. I don’t mind the extra weight if it is a superior lens. If you have any thoughts on the camera choice I would welcome your thoughts. Thank you Stephen
I very much share your perspective on the Z 24-70 f/4 S. I purchased it last year before the f/2.8S was released. My intent was to sell it upon acquiring the f/2.8S barely a couple weeks ago. While I am totally enamored with the optical quality of the f/2.8S, I have decided to keep the f/4S as well. It will make a nice walk around type lens.
When I got my Z6 I planned on selling the 24-70 f/4 to replace it with the f/2.8. Because initally I wasn't that impressed by its performace because of the lack of wide aperture. But now I find myself using it almost exclusively when going outsides. It renders so nicely and is very versitile while also being compact which is a huge advantage because I regularly take my camera on big walks and don't want to carry a ton of gear with me. So instead of getting the 24-70 f/2.8 I'll put that money towards the 70-200 f/2.8 as soon as it's available.
Great review. I agree this lens is amazing, I come from fujifilm world and I had the infamous xf 16mm f1.4 but frankly I felt this nikkor zoom better with more details and sharpness
Would you prefer an f/2.8 to f/4 variable aperture lens or an f/4 fixed aperture lens? In particular I am looking at the Fuji 18-55mm f/2.8-4 and the 16-80mm f/4.
Interesting video. I rented a Z7 and the 24-70 f2.8 to shoot this week at a conference. I really like the Z7. As i contemplate purchasing this system, I am wondering if it make sense to by the f4 version for my landscape shooting and a couple f1.8s for event photography. Honestly, 70mm isn’t quite long enough f4 will be too slow. Thoughts?
So there is an adapter for the z6/7 to allow canon lenses. I hear it's actually better than the Ftz adapter which makes nikon look sad. What are your thoughts on getting the canon 24-105 F4 instead of this lens?
I like to differentiate between "kit lens" and "general purpose lens". The General Purpose lens should be a zoom crossing the 50mm mark: 24\105, 28\135, 24-70 -- that sort of thing -- compact, and with close focus capability. The "kit" lens would normall be a less expensive, sometime called "consumer grade" lens -- for those who are looking to keep cost down. Typically the kit lens will have a variable aperture while a good GP lens will be constant at F4 or even F2.8 although at F2.8 -- with IS or VR -- the lens migt be a little heavy...... now though, cameras may feature "in body stabilization" leading us to wonder if we can get the effect we want using -- e.g. a f2.8 non stabilized lens . lots to find out in the next couple years, especially 2020 !
I believed Canon changed that (kit lens) with its 24-105 f/4 IS and many modern photographers came from that era. In the past, some of us valued constant aperture, IF and non extended zoom, but not anymore nowadays. Personally, I prefer the new Canon 28-70 f/2 instead of a f/2.8 or f/4 and I hope Nikon can offer faster lenses with its new Z mount. Maybe the upcoming Z flagship camera will bundle with the NOCT (white box) as the kit lens. 😊
Please help as I see you as a fountain of Nikon knowledge. I am 74 years old and have been shooting the same Nikon F for 53 years. My new Z50 arrived a couple days ago and I am thrilled but still learning how to make all these menus do what knobs and buttons used to accomplish. My wife and I are scheduled to go to Fairbanks in October and one of the things we want is to photograph the aurora. I just went out to try a shot of the night sky (I like to work out procedures before I get on scene) but; With the camera on manual, the iso set to 400, the aperture at 5.3 and the shutter at 30 seconds the shutter would not open. Of course the exposure compensation line was blinking because it wasn’t seeing a lot of light. How can I make this thing trust me and go ahead and open the shutter in the dark? I tried the ‘bulb’ and ‘time’ shutter settings as well.
It should work (I just tried it on mine). The only thing I can think of is if you were trying to use autofocus and the camera couldn't achieve focus. You will definitely want to use manual focus in astrophotography/Aurora Borealis.
@@LeighAndRaymond Thank you for the patience and reply, I had figured this out and last night got some really pleasing results. Feeling ready for the aurora now.
just a way to get by...UNTIL the f4 24 to 70mm a lens, its sharpness, vivid picture and focus power shines with my z6 and it's on my camera 90 percent of the time when shooting cinema, and pictures!..when I'm not using prime z lens, I'm thrilled with this lens it's just gorgeous in every way
that only happens to me when my Wifi or Bluetooth is on. The battery drops because its transfering files to my phone. if i set the camera to Airplane Mode, the battery life is amazing.
I found out today that the Z6 has an AA filter and Z7 does not, will this cause different affects using this kit lens due to the AA filter that could make the picture softer
All the lower resolution cameras have an AA filter. Without it the moire would be terrible. You can only get away without it once you get to higher resolutions.
@@-OzSteve Thanks for the info, so what explains no AA filter at the Z50 which is less resolution and there is no mentioning that I can find about moire problem
@@SamChihabi z50 has an AA filter as far as I can tell. Regardless, it's apsc so the cutoff point in sensor resolution for when you need an AA filter might be different. For full frame, you start to see manufacturers dropping the aa filter at about 36 mp or higher. There is heaps of information on it on the internet if you want to know more.
I don't like and have often said to others on many videos and on Nikon etc. FaceBook pages, that I don't like called the Nikon 24-70mm f/4 Z a "Kit" Lens because of its sharpness.
@@goonswarm007 Well, I personally don't like a AA filter. I've haven't had any problems without it. If needed software can be used for the same purpose which again I haven't needed for pictures outside of taking TV and Monitor pictures which downgrading the resolution takes care of.
this is an annoying review. I'd already decided NOT to get the f4 kit, but to go to the f2.8 straightaway. Now I'm having to think again. gerrrr. As for kit lenses generally, I liken them to getting a house white at a good restaurant ... they're going to be good, because they have a name to protect, though they're rarely great. This f4 bucks the trend if you will, in that it's actually a great lens. Thanks for the review!
Kit lenses are probably a necessary evil; most often they’re junk, with few exceptions (Fuji 18-55 previously, and now the excellent 16-80 f4). Evil, because they, as you say, don’t do the camera system justice in general, necessary because few new owners will buy an expensive camera, AND an expensive lens separately.
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I own a Z6 and the 24-70 F4 and frankly it’s an excellent lens, great for landscape, takes decent portraits, and also take pretty nice macro shots. I travelled for 2 weeks in Canada with it had some amazing results with it. I think it’s one of the best kit lenses any brand has to offer.
Do you ever shoot video with your setup? Concerned about the AF but I hear Z lenses are better
Bought the Z7 very recently, a few days before a trip to the Amalfi Coast in Italy. I intended to use it with a trio of high performance m-mount lenses to keep the gear light and compact. the store gently encouraged me to get the Z7 with the "kit lens". I was reluctant as I dislike zooms and large lenses, but took it nonetheless to have a taste of native mount. Long story short, I never swapped lenses during my whole trip. The 24-70 f/4 is an amazing lens and leverages all of the Z body features, starting with full spectrum of IBIS and superb AF. The results were irreproachable, including in low light, and f/4 is fast enough to play with bokeh at the longer end. The gear was light enough, and got even lighter on day 3 when I decided to leave my bag and other lenses in the hotel room for good. This was an unexpected revelation and drives me to completely agree with your,own assessment.
This was a fantastically written assessment.
Sounds about right. Do test the 50mm 1.8S though you will like it.
The performance of the 24-70 f4S was actually the reason why got into the Z system.
If you’re old, but still trying to continue on in the face of adversity, the smaller size is greatly appreciated.
From what I've seen the F4 is in it's own right a good lens and for consumers it's a great buy. For very serious photographers maybe they need that extra stop, but for the rest of us it's a very good lens.
I have had mostly kit Nikon lenses and had some great photos with them. But when I got my prime lenses they are so much better. When I purchased my Z6 with the 24-70 f/4 it is the best kit lens I have used. If Nikon would build all there kit lens with a constant f/4 throughout the zoom. It would give new camera owners a better experience with there new camera.
The 24-70mm f/4 is by far the best kit lens I've ever had, including the Fuji 18-55mm f/2.8-4.
One of the things I love about the 24-70mm is how close you can get with a 0.30x magnification ratio. I wouldn't switch it for the f/2.8 because of the light weight.
This is a great lens... I love it along with the 14-30 its almost perfect. if Nikon delivers on the 24-120 f4 Z mount I will be the happiest 2 lens photographer on the planet!
I really like this kit lens. It’s a huge step up from my previous experiences with kit lenses. I like how compact it is. It easily fits into my smaller (lighter) camera bag. And it does 98 percent of what I need. I can’t ask anything more of it.
I find this lens crucial for general compactness when I throw my Z into my backpack. It's not like we don't have faster glass available if the scene calls for that.
Hi, thanks for the expert view. I bought the kit lens purely as I am restarting my general photography. Circumstances have conspired against me finding much time and I feel that it is a foot back in the door, not too ambitious too soon. It hasn't broken the Bank, and learning to use the camera with a light lens will ensure, I feel, that I regain that enthusiasm. Thank you, Norman
If you get this along with your Z6/Z7 body I think this is tremendous value for money! It is a great travel lens. I have even shot some astro with it and it came out great owing to the great low light performance of my Z6. It is light, has a constant aperture, is weather sealed and is very very sharp! I subjected my Z6 with the kit lens to temperatures reaching minus 35 degrees celsius with lots of snowfall and had no issues with it. Even portraits at the long end are decent when you don't have fast primes lying around or just don't have the time to change lenses.
Great lens. I would love to get a 70-200 f4 to add to it. I pre-ordered the new 24-200 variable aperture Nikon Z
a few days ago but would still like an f4. So far my favorite z lens is the 50 1.8.
The Z 24-70 f4 S is a very good lens. It's my street photography lens and I wouldn't part with it.
Yeah. Shot through three different BLM protests with the f4S and the results were impressive. I also have the 50mm 1.8S and it's just fabulous. I can't imagine needing anything else at the moment.
@@Azabaxe80 I wish I could shoot through those damn BLM protests too...
I’m not invested into the z system yet but when I am I will certainly get this lens. Probably the perfect travel lens. I would use primes at home and just take the one lens when travelling.
In general as goes kit lenses, does anyone remember the 24-85mm VR kit for the D610? Well, this is a superb lens hands down; and what made it so spectacular, was that it is ideal for travel and vacation. This is the heart of the initial selling feature for mirrorless-compactness. Well, as we all know, better images-consistently, requires bigger glass; mirrorless or otherwise. So when it comes to travel and leisure, kits will always be necessary. They’re not the best, but they are also no the worst.
I had Z7 body for 3 months before I just recently picked up the 24-70 f4 used. Took a 4 day trip into the Smoky Mountains and wow...I just can't believe the quality of they lens. I need took the lens off my camera the whole trip, never found a need to.
I've always had f/2.8 zooms, but this is so small, light and sharp at all settings that I can't resist it - especially as it's so cheap used, because so many people upgraded to the f/2.8!
I planned on upgrading from my D610 to the Z6II, and this 24-70 F4 seems to be the perfect companion until I can afford my go-to Primes (35mm, 85mm, & 135mm) for the new Z-mount.
The 24-70 F/4 is a stellar lens for landscapes with my Z7. Combined with the camera's built in image stabilization, I can avoid using the tripod often. I have pre-ordered the Z 24-200 F/4-6.3 for high altitude mountain photography. I can always add my Z 35mm 1.8 prime when I travel light.
I’m really enjoying the kit lenses as well as the S series, especially the 14 x 35mm f4. Uber excited about future lenses planned for the Zs.
Sometimes kit lenses are highly underrated, but generally, they get the bad rap that they deserve, because more often than not, they earn their reputation as being a compromise of cost to performance and convenience (size/weight).
But sometimes, you get lenses like the DX AF-P 18-55mm, the DX 16-50mm Z, and the S-Line 24-70 f4 Z.
Would gladly buy a S-Line 70-200 f4 Z kit lens for a minimal load out for hiking trips.
I want to see the result of the Firmware update 3.00
My first digital SLR was a D70 shortly after they came out. I purchased it with the kit 18-70. That was (for the time) a great lens for the the price point. It wasn’t until the Z 24-70 f4 that I have been as happy. The Z 24-70 is likely the best “kit” zoom lens that has been sold with a consumer SLR. I’ve been very happy with it.
Like others, I’m looking forward to your review of the firmware update to 3.0.
If you are shooting professional level stuff, then kit lenses probably won't do the job. I think that Fuji offers a good "kit lens" equivalent in the 18-55 2.8-4 which I shot with A LOT when I used Fuji. Canon's 24 - 105 f4 seems good, and I'm looking at Nikon Z6 with 24-70 f4 as my entry into full frame. I think these f4 24-105 kit lenses should become the new standard because they offer a really good quality lens for people like myself (hobbyists) who want a good camera but maybe can't justify dropping tons on 2.8 zoom glass (although having the FTZ ring is a good way to get quality F-mount equivalent lenses!) , and in a lot of cases just removes the need entirely for another zoom lens. I personally rarely find myself wanting to go more open than F4 on a zoom lens, so 2.8 is overkill, and it also keeps the size down making them awesome for travel. I do wish that Nikon had made a 24 - 105 f4 as the standard for the Z system, but I can also completely understand why they went with 24 - 70, and I think I'll be more than happy with f4.
Not sure if you tried the V3 update but it’s SUPERB!! 🤓👍
Lens firmware or camera firmware?
Just shot a wedding with the 24-70 F4 as one of the lenses that I used, and very happy with the results.
I love the 24-70 f4 S. Sharp. small and wonderful.
or 24 200 sir
This is the second kit lens I have owned, the first being the AFS 24-85 f3.5-4.5 G VR with my D600 and this lens with the Z6ll. Love them both, still have the 24-85 that I use with my D810. Both lightweight with great performance. I mainly shoot landscape so I'm usually shooting stopped down anyway.
For some reason, here in Canada Nikon offers the 24-70 f/4 at discount if you purchase it with the Z5 - but not in the U.S.. So I bought them as a kit (FTZ adapter was also at a discount). Considering the "entry level" label afforded to the Z5, and the slower aperture of the lens than the f/2.8, this a more natural camera/lens pairing than, say the Z7II/24-70 combo available in the U.S. One thing, though ... you'll have to call it "Zed", not a "Zee".
I do not want to afford a 24-70 F2.8 AND a 14-24 f2.8 for my Z9 and Z6 bodies. Since I run a business that demands I use a wide angle, I have decided to buy this lens AND the 14-24 f2.8 . The 14-30 f4 was just too big a compromise for the business end of things. Good video. Thanks.
In one of the photos you were adapting a Canon lens on the z50, with the help of Techart ef to z adapter. How does it perform? I've heard another ef to z adapter from Fringer, which seems to have excellent performance. Maybe you can try that one too.
I’ve never taken this kit lens off my z6. Very pleased with it. I don’t think I’ll upgrade to the 2.8 due to the extra weight and bulk
can i use this 24-70 f4 with nikon z50 in photojournalist and events ?
Good form factor and quality. I do wish the new 24-200 was also an S type, because I would love to see that quality extended a bit longer, but will be very eager to see how it performs.
It’s better then the 24-70
@@danielmcdonald9917 I have no comparison, but I have been shooting the 24-200 for a couple of months now and it is outstanding - especially if you are able to stop down a stop or two, but if not, shoot with confidence anyway!
If it is just as good once stopped down more than fine for me, I very very seldom shoot below 5.6 usually 8 or 11 as I'm more a landscape shooter. This looks the perfect travel lens for me, I love the collapsible design, as my main issue with lenses when I'm walking around is them bouncing around hitting me etc, once I take the shot I dont care about the size its just easier to take around thats all.
At the minut 01:00 there are some picture from Z50 (DX) + 24-70mm. Did you compare the picture quality of Z50+24-70mm and (Z50+16-50 or even Z50+50-250mm)? I mean using this full frame lens 24-70 instead of the kit lens of Z50: 16-50 and 50-250. I know, taking into consideration that 24-70mm on Z50 will be around 36-105mm. I ask because I'm thinking to get this 24-70mm and to use for a while with my Z50 with the plan I will switch to a Nikon Z6II in the future. And, for that moment, to already have this 24-70 f4.
Thank You!
I think it really depends on the kit lens. I love the 24-105mm. And well i used to use the 18-55mm on my D5100 a lot and haven't really bought a replacement for it.
Poked this up for a bargain £400 in mint condition. Great portable lens that I have no issue using for paid work.
I have both the 2.8 S and the f4 S and I tend to use the f 4 the most because of the size and quality.
Would be nice to see a bokeh comparison between the 24-70 2.8 S and the f4. At 2.8 vs f4. Cheers!
Yes. Waiting for the same. Few made a video on this topic but still looking for more practical information... 😜
For long expo, it is the best option hands down. Most of the time landscapes photographers us it stoped down to f8. Lightweight and sharper than both Nikon 24-70 f2.8 F mount lenses. No brainer in my opinion.
It's just a way to get by, for better lenses in the future♥️📸 and a great lens as part of the kit♥️
The Best Kit Lens I ever enjoyed with DSLR ist 24-120 f/4.0 because off I am more than 90% ab 5,6, shooter and never shoot with the full opening of a lens unless a wide F length e.g. Tamaron 17-35 f/2,8
Personally I would have preferred a 24-105 f/4 as a kit lens. Others I have spoken too would prefer an even larger range and give up speed (not me, but I already have adaptable lenses). I really thought I would just use my f mount 24-70 f2.8 more, but that lens is soooooo front heavy, especially adapted, that I avoid it at every turn. For $500 it really is a good lens, especially if Nikon can loose the click to lock thing, it's just annoying.
There is a 24-105 on the roadmap. So eventually we'll all get to choose between size and range.
Just won a 24-70 f4 on ebay, bought z6 body last week. Thanks for the review!
Hi, I'm about to get the same combo. What do you think about the lens?
Cheers
I shoot with the Z7 and can't say enough about the 24-70 F4 .. a great performer all the way around.
Peter
I got rid of my 24-70 mm 2.8 F lens because I wasn't using it anymore after I got my F4 Z, it's really good.
Great tutorial and review on the Nikon Kit Lens. I really appreciate how you objectively compared the newer 24-70 f 2.8S to the kit lens that came with my Z6. I am new to photography, as a hobby, and I am blown away with the quality of the pictures I can capture knowing as little as I do. Maybe the 24-70 f4S is all I will ever need - but, I find myself struggling with lighting and shutter speed - and perhaps a wider lens angle is something that would complement what I have. Any thoughts? As a complete hack/amateur, should I be looking at prime lenses? Should I step up to the 70-200 f2.8 VRS? Any feedback would be appreciated!
Fantastic information and review. Thank you!
What do you think about this lens for video compared with the 2.8? It's much smaller and lighter and better balanced on a gimbal but missing the shallow depth of field possibilities.
Hello, wanted to say I enjoy your videos, very helpful. I have a question if you have time and opportunity to reply. I used to work in a camera store many years ago, before the digital age. I am just re-entering the world of photography. I am planning to purchase either a Z6 or a Z5. Leaning towards the Z6 as the price difference is only $250 here in Canada. I am wondering if you have a recommendation for the lens. I can get the 24-70 f4 with it. However for the same money my local store has a used 24-70 F mount f2.8G. I don’t mind the extra weight if it is a superior lens. If you have any thoughts on the camera choice I would welcome your thoughts. Thank you Stephen
I very much share your perspective on the Z 24-70 f/4 S. I purchased it last year before the f/2.8S was released. My intent was to sell it upon acquiring the f/2.8S barely a couple weeks ago. While I am totally enamored with the optical quality of the f/2.8S, I have decided to keep the f/4S as well. It will make a nice walk around type lens.
That's pretty much what we thought too but it's still hanging around on our shelf!
When I got my Z6 I planned on selling the 24-70 f/4 to replace it with the f/2.8. Because initally I wasn't that impressed by its performace because of the lack of wide aperture. But now I find myself using it almost exclusively when going outsides. It renders so nicely and is very versitile while also being compact which is a huge advantage because I regularly take my camera on big walks and don't want to carry a ton of gear with me. So instead of getting the 24-70 f/2.8 I'll put that money towards the 70-200 f/2.8 as soon as it's available.
Great review.
I agree this lens is amazing, I come from fujifilm world and I had the infamous xf 16mm f1.4 but frankly I felt this nikkor zoom better with more details and sharpness
Would you prefer an f/2.8 to f/4 variable aperture lens or an f/4 fixed aperture lens? In particular I am looking at the Fuji 18-55mm f/2.8-4 and the 16-80mm f/4.
Interesting video. I rented a Z7 and the 24-70 f2.8 to shoot this week at a conference. I really like the Z7. As i contemplate purchasing this system, I am wondering if it make sense to by the f4 version for my landscape shooting and a couple f1.8s for event photography. Honestly, 70mm isn’t quite long enough f4 will be too slow. Thoughts?
What about wedding photography with 20mm S 1.8 or 35mm Z Mount 1.8??
So there is an adapter for the z6/7 to allow canon lenses. I hear it's actually better than the Ftz adapter which makes nikon look sad. What are your thoughts on getting the canon 24-105 F4 instead of this lens?
I like to differentiate between "kit lens" and "general purpose lens". The General Purpose lens should be a zoom crossing the 50mm mark: 24\105, 28\135, 24-70 -- that sort of thing -- compact, and with close focus capability. The "kit" lens would normall be a less expensive, sometime called "consumer grade" lens -- for those who are looking to keep cost down. Typically the kit lens will have a variable aperture while a good GP lens will be constant at F4 or even F2.8 although at F2.8 -- with IS or VR -- the lens migt be a little heavy...... now though, cameras may feature "in body stabilization" leading us to wonder if we can get the effect we want using -- e.g. a f2.8 non stabilized lens . lots to find out in the next couple years, especially 2020 !
I believed Canon changed that (kit lens) with its 24-105 f/4 IS and many modern photographers came from that era. In the past, some of us valued constant aperture, IF and non extended zoom, but not anymore nowadays. Personally, I prefer the new Canon 28-70 f/2 instead of a f/2.8 or f/4 and I hope Nikon can offer faster lenses with its new Z mount. Maybe the upcoming Z flagship camera will bundle with the NOCT (white box) as the kit lens. 😊
Hello, Is it a good lens if i use it for wedding and some low light or better 24-70 f2.8 with f mount ?
Is this lense good for indoor?
Good show as always! I like you telling me what’s new., Cheers!
Nice , did you find the low light focusing better with the update ?!
The best kit lens i ever used
Please help as I see you as a fountain of Nikon knowledge.
I am 74 years old and have been shooting the same Nikon F for 53 years.
My new Z50 arrived a couple days ago and I am thrilled but still learning how to make all these menus do what knobs and buttons used to accomplish.
My wife and I are scheduled to go to Fairbanks in October and one of the things we want is to photograph the aurora.
I just went out to try a shot of the night sky (I like to work out procedures before I get on scene) but;
With the camera on manual, the iso set to 400, the aperture at 5.3 and the shutter at 30 seconds the shutter would not open.
Of course the exposure compensation line was blinking because it wasn’t seeing a lot of light.
How can I make this thing trust me and go ahead and open the shutter in the dark?
I tried the ‘bulb’ and ‘time’ shutter settings as well.
It should work (I just tried it on mine). The only thing I can think of is if you were trying to use autofocus and the camera couldn't achieve focus. You will definitely want to use manual focus in astrophotography/Aurora Borealis.
@@LeighAndRaymond Thank you for the patience and reply, I had figured this out and last night got some really pleasing results. Feeling ready for the aurora now.
just a way to get by...UNTIL the f4 24 to 70mm a lens, its sharpness, vivid picture and focus power shines with my z6 and it's on my camera 90 percent of the time when shooting cinema, and pictures!..when I'm not using prime z lens, I'm thrilled with this lens it's just gorgeous in every way
Would you see 24-200mm a good kit lens? If Nikon offers it someday.
If I recall correctly they just released it two weeks ago.
Where do you sell your lenses?
A digress, Z7's battery drops off when off, any ideas
Mine does not
Storing it in cold conditions?
@@devafalc In the camera at the time and the room is 70 F.
that only happens to me when my Wifi or Bluetooth is on. The battery drops because its transfering files to my phone. if i set the camera to Airplane Mode, the battery life is amazing.
@@IoanSorinSanta I have that on now, and I'm seeing how that works out, thanks.
I found out today that the Z6 has an AA filter and Z7 does not, will this cause different affects using this kit lens due to the AA filter that could make the picture softer
All the lower resolution cameras have an AA filter. Without it the moire would be terrible. You can only get away without it once you get to higher resolutions.
@@-OzSteve Thanks for the info, so what explains no AA filter at the Z50 which is less resolution and there is no mentioning that I can find about moire problem
@@SamChihabi z50 has an AA filter as far as I can tell. Regardless, it's apsc so the cutoff point in sensor resolution for when you need an AA filter might be different. For full frame, you start to see manufacturers dropping the aa filter at about 36 mp or higher. There is heaps of information on it on the internet if you want to know more.
I love mine kit lens.....can everything..........the next thing is gonna be the 85mm s
I don't like and have often said to others on many videos and on Nikon etc. FaceBook pages, that I don't like called the Nikon 24-70mm f/4 Z a "Kit" Lens because of its sharpness.
The z6 with a z prime is so sharp.. luckily the z6 has the AA filter 😁
@@goonswarm007 Well, I personally don't like a AA filter. I've haven't had any problems without it. If needed software can be used for the same purpose which again I haven't needed for pictures outside of taking TV and Monitor pictures which downgrading the resolution takes care of.
I'm glad kit lenses have become sharper and better overall! :)
Superb lens and cheap at ebay..
Ok
Yes,it is definitely a S.
this is an annoying review. I'd already decided NOT to get the f4 kit, but to go to the f2.8 straightaway. Now I'm having to think again. gerrrr. As for kit lenses generally, I liken them to getting a house white at a good restaurant ... they're going to be good, because they have a name to protect, though they're rarely great. This f4 bucks the trend if you will, in that it's actually a great lens. Thanks for the review!
PS I'd like a comparison of the f4 vs f2.8 please
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Kit lenses are probably a necessary evil; most often they’re junk, with few exceptions (Fuji 18-55 previously, and now the excellent 16-80 f4). Evil, because they, as you say, don’t do the camera system justice in general, necessary because few new owners will buy an expensive camera, AND an expensive lens separately.
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Will u plzz gift me the z 24-70 2.8 plzzplzz.plzz 🙂
Barely doing this review? And without the 3.0 update?🤷🏻♂️
Noooo kit lens. I breath bokah