My mother has carried a 21A-.22 Beretta since the 1990's, and just turned 88 this year. The flip-up barrel makes it easy for her to load, and the double-action trigger means she does not have to pull the slide to shoot. It has always performed flawlessly, and shot accurately. I wouldn't care to be on the receiving end of it, and that's what counts. Before that, she carried a 2-shot over & under .22 Derringer, which was easy to load, although it was a bit of a struggle to cock the tiny, heavily sprung hammer. My favorite growing up was a Hi-Standard Double-Nine .22, an extremely accurate 9-shot, double-action revolver that never failed and was a breeze to clean and service. Not exactly a pocket pistol, but one has to start somewhere. Another dead-accurate compact .22 was our Armalite AR-7 .22LR. Again, not a pocket pistol, but was absolutely unbeatable for accuracy, reliability, serviceability, portability, and it even floated if dropped in the water, thanks to the hollow, airtight plastic stock! When you have owned and shot a variety of GOOD .22's, you can feel confident that the caliber is enough to defend yourself, should the need arise!
I love my M&P .22lr compact! I carry it often with the best of ammo that I reserve for its use. What a pistol. I also love my M&P Shield 9mm but the main reason that I carry a .22lr is that the danger to innocent bystanders is much lessened by missed shots and ricochets. There is a lawyer attached to every round. As always Chris good work!
My wife carries my grandma's Hi Standard late 50s, 9 shot .22 revolver. Works like a champ. Heavy trigger I believe is to make it more difficult to "accidentally" fire.
I've carried a lot of various pocket 22 handguns over the years. Revolvers are my favorite. My pocket 22 at this time is a Phoenix Arms 22 auto. With the factory recommended ammo, standard velocity 40 grain lead bullets, it has been totally reliable and accurate. I don't like that I'm not comfortable carrying a round in the chamber. But I picked it up like New in the box, for :$75. I carry it in my front pants pocket in an Uncle Mike's pocket holster. Usually as a back up to a larger caliber pistol. But once in a while as my main gun. I have used it once. I was parked in a store parking lot, waiting for my son to get off work. An obviously drugged up guy was staggering around, looking in cars. I pulled it out and laid it in the seat beside me. He approached my truck. I watched him very carefully as he did. He walked right up to me. He didn't say anything, but looked in. He seen my gun and my hand beside it. He quickly staggered off. I called 911 and told them I was concerned about him and gave his description. He continued his weird activities until 2 county cop cars quickly showed up. They made contact with him and cuffed him. My son came out and we left as the cops drove off with him. I'm not sure what he was on, or what he was planning on doing. But the sight of the little silver Phoenix 22 beside me quickly sent him away from me. $75 well spent.
Forget it... I'm a hunter that has used many calibres. We are talking about concealed carry's aren't we? - last resort, close range weapons???? You'd have to ask a drug fueled idiot to nicely stand still as you empty at least 5 shots - unless you get lucky and hit a "vital spot".... go on..... think you're that good but chances are you'll just wound him and get stabbed to death. Go bigger for this job and they won't be standing. I know what I'd pick. Hey- why not advocate air pistols????? same $hit
@@anthonyspanjich2772 I disagree. Getting shot is getting shot. Most criminals, just like everyone else, at the end of the day just want to go home. A 22lr may not be the biggest caliber out there, but trust me, it's more than enough to deter or stop a threat. I live in one of the most dangerous cities in America. Detroit Michigan and I have no problem carrying a 22lr or a 357 magnum for self-defense. Most criminals from what I've heard (unfortunately you meet all kinds in my neighborhood) say that they would rather be shot with a 9mm than a 22lr. Real criminals have much respect for the 22lr and no one is going to just stand there once you start pumping round of any caliber in them! Most will run for the hills! Everyone wants to talk about that rare scenario where a drug fuel maniac is coming at you to do you harm... If this is the situation, it really doesn't matter what caliber you're using If you don't have Good shot placement. Unless you can get the the body of the threat to shut down completely, they're going to keep coming after you. So a this point a head shot is the best choice. And a 22lr to the head will stop just about any threat. Hey, but if the biggest caliber you can carry floats your boat. Have at it. But if we're talking real world, self-defense scenarios... A 22lr will stop or deter most threats/bad guys. Just showing that you have the ability to defend your self is enough to deter most criminals/bad guys. Carry what you are comfortable with and shoot well. Be safe and God bless.
@@redzone1019 I agree that anything is better than nothing and good shot placement can bring lesser penetrating rounds up to task. Unfortunately I had 4 drug crazed thugs turn up 20 years ago to steal a friends V8 commodore parked in front of our house. They were nicknamed the "T-Bone crew" (should be able to look them up - in Perth Western Australia). Their MO was to steal 2 cars for a night of fun - where one car would get in a chase with police and stop at an organised spot - whereupon the second car would ram the police car side on, scum get out of the smashed car and hop into the "good one" in front of the mangled police car and leave. They knew that the Police car was weakest side on - these were bad dudes. A few Police were injured badly in this way. They were at my place to steal the second car. I pulled my (22 hornet at the time) at them from the front door and simply announced the Police were on their way.... ^%$# off. This did not deter them in the slightest. 2 kept breaking into the car and 2 came straight at me (with knife / bar). When they got to 20m, I loaded and was just about to shoot the first one - I was already calculating if I'd be quick enough to drop the second before they got to my family - and if they'd both stay down. They stopped, one laughed at me (???), and they just walked back to their car and they all took off (second now successfully started up). My problem is that the 22 hornet very rarely dropped a Roo the size of a human with one shot when going for centre mass (running targets etc). These guys were going to rush me if I started shooting and head shots that quick - well not many would achieve that. I didn't have my fathers 12G that night (but sure wished I did) - so I bought my own after that (and moved up to 223 - I needed that anyway due to range limitation hunting). So I started with 22LR, went to 22 hornet, then 223 and ultimately 243... plus 12G (I hunted a lot - many pests on the farm). I instantly noticed a massive increase in effectiveness if we used the 12G whilst driving bush tracks - and 223 / 243 across paddocks so relegated the 22LR to bunnies. From my hunting experience, I know that the 12G that night would be a show stopper if necessary - but probably (?) not the 22 hornet and they may well have made it in. Add to that this very well researched article on lethality and that is why I think like I do. I have absolutely no doubt that an expert shooter with a 22 can be devastating.... but 4 heavily drugged thugs (it was Crystal Meth they were found with - look it up - supreme "chemical bravery), night time, everyone moving, family behind me in the house horrified etc is a very scary situation..... with me worried that I have enough firepower to protect. ruclips.net/video/nycYxb-zNwc/видео.html
@@anthonyspanjich2772 I feel what you saying and I do agree that bigger calibers have more stopping power. I've also had a few close calls with thieves, drug dealers, drug addicts and the occasional just plain crazy. One of the most important things you can do in a self-defense situation is to demonstrate that you are willing to fight back. Most criminals, like animal predators in the wild, want a easy target. When you show that you are willing to fight back and have the means/ability to fight back most criminals/bad guys will back off. I know this from personal experience. I'm glad you and your family are okay. You do what you think is best to protect you and your family. And I do have other calibers for self-defense besides the humble 22lr. Lol. The point that I was trying to make was don't underestimate the humble 22lr. If you can't hit the broad side of a barn with a 45acp etc. Don't use a 45acp etc. (Smile) Use whatever you are comfortable and shoot the best. God bless and be safe. Oh yeah, I personally also prefer the 410 over the 12ga. Lol. Just saying... Almost no recoil, quicker follow up shots and at self-defense distances... Devastating! Good talking to ya. Take care.
True Tony, which is why I prefer the heft and hand feel of both a Springfield Armory ND9 or S&W 9SWE? over the overly fat grip of a Glock 17 or 34. But for .22lr the Phoenix Arms HP-22a semiautomatic is an easy fit with the pinky mag extended.
I am loving this series! I usually carry a center fire pistol. Lately my choice is a S&W 40c. I shoot it pretty good. However, I have carried a Walther P22. I can shoot the P22 more accurately and easily twice as fast as my center fires. Every time I go to the range I take the P22. I'll shoot several hundered rounds each session. Thats a bonus with shooting 22lr. Just about anyone can afford enough ammo to become proficient.
Something to be aware of with the Beretta 21a, it has no extractor or ejector so clearing a FTF is a different operation than most pistols. I have the Model 20 in .25 and it has been 100% reliable with factory ammo and reloads except that on the last round the case will occasionally get jammed in the slide as it closes because there's no round below it to act as an ejector. If fired without the magazine in they'll jam very frequently, generally not important, but it's good to know just in case.
My Mother in Laws neighbor was trying to push her to a .357 revolver for home defense,... She's mid 70's, small frame & not strong. Giving her a cannon with only a few rounds was a horrible idea so I suggested a Marlin 60 or Ruger 10/22 so she can have 16 to 25 rounds of CCI Stingers which are 1680 fps with hollow points :) Now she has good control & plenty of ammo in the dark ;)
Trying to get her going a decent size .38 or .380 might be better for outside the home. So long as it's not a micro-compact pistol she can probably handle it fine. The REALLY tiny .380's will feel more like a .40 though, just because they are so small.
Don't bother giving her +P loads or anything like that either. Even with a soft load .380 and .38 outperform .22lr, .25acp, and .32acp by a lot. If all she likes is the .22lr then just leave her be though.
excellent choice! I have been an advocate of .22 Rifles (semi auto) for Home defense for YEARS! Now get her a .22 Handgun to go along with it. You might want to consider a .32 Handgun as well.
That’s not a gunfight rule, that’s a rule for life. Trouble always seems to find trouble makers, and rarely finds those who mind their own business and avoid trouble. But when it does show up, running is not always the best answer, but is sure solves about 95% of confrontations.
5:16 Hi Chris, Please note on the Bobcat if you have a failure to fire simply racking the slide does NOT chamber a fresh round & make it ready to fire. Bobcat uses gas from fired round to eject casing, NOT an ejector. An unfired round remains in the barrel so racking slide tries to load a round with no place to go. Have to remove mag and both the racked round and round from barrel. In actuality (less than ideal in a must shoot situation) tip up barrel has to be opened, faulty shell dumped or if jammed pried out of barrel, then either insert new round before closing barrel or close it then rack slide to load empty barrel. Love my bobcat 22lr but don't consider it as CCW for the above reason. Now my 25acp Bobcat.....maybe. Naaa, actually with similar size Sig P238 available there's no reason to carry anything else.
Great video , it always amazes me how folks underestimate the 22lr while it wouldn’t be my first choice for defense it will definitely ruin your day if your unlucky enough to get shot by one
It certainly can ruin your day. During the holiday season when I was a 6th grader a friend was changing seats in the family vehicle. In the process he inadvertently discharging a 22 rifle. The bullet struck his head, killing him instantly.
I just got a Phoenix HP22A and I am very pleased with it. It has been accurate and reliable so far. I have a lot more rounds through my Taurus TX22 and with over a thousand rounds it has had only two ammo related failures to fire. I would feel adequately armed with either one and have put the Phoenix HP22A into my backup pocket carry rotation. It fits the same pocket holster I use with my Taurus TCP or my S&W M&P Bodyguard. Thanks for the video.
I have two of the Phoenix pistols... their size makes them easy to carry as a secondary, or ankle, and I will often stow in backpack or bag. My main CC is S&W M&P9. During qualifications, the HP22A's were accurate, and had no failures...the only challenge I had with them was when I used the extended mags (with the pinkie finger support)...I did have two failures with these. I modified both of mine so that I can install the mag at anytime, and eliminated the firing pin block safety so that there are fewer steps to take when in a pickle. rack and go.
My Bersa Firestorm in .22lr is the perfect concealed carry sidearm. Double-single action with external safety with hammer drop, 10 rounds plus one, fits in pocket but I can get my whole hand around it. Finally, it is the most accurate pistol I have ever fired, and I have fired many.
@galaxyrose 117 will you be willing to get shot with a .22? NO ONE, Seems to be willing to stand there and test their opinion. More people die in the U.S. by a 22LR than any other caliber. If it was a mosquito bite a lot of people would live
@@joejoe188 I carry 22 mag really is maybe 1 oz less than a carry 38 special 5 shot, but with the 22 mag you have three extra shots. If your goal is to win a fight the 22 might not be the best gun but if your goal is to break contact with your enemy the 22 mag might be a great gun.
Something to think about, if you ever have to fire a pistol in a defensive situation indoors with out hearing protection the big calibers might leave your ears ringing so bad that you might not be able to hear what your attackers are doing or the police when they show up. Maybe the smaller calibers like a .22 might be leave you with enough of your hearing to get by.
I used to own a pellet gun that shot in the mid to low end of the .22lr's power range :S But then again, that thing had some nasty penetration for a silly pellet shooter. Shot 3-4" into plywood You would know if it hit you.
my name Agreed. But I wouldn’t want to stake my life on it. I read a police account years ago in Handgun magazine were an officer emptied his .38 revolver into a suspect who had just shot his partner, and it didn’t stop him! Suspect was taken live by a swat team after he retreated into a house.
@@louseal7574 definitely...pop one or two into an eye socket or ear during a grapple for your life. Most gun fights are at grappling distances.. no sights, Weaver stance, or two handed grip involved
Thanks for this series! I love .22 pocket pistols. I have the Beretta 21A, Beretta 70s in .22 cal, Walther PPKS 22, Bersa 22 and the Phoenix Arms HP22. They are all good guns. My experience with these guns. I carry every day. I love my Bersa 22. It is my go to. Fits in my pocket & It beats out the other guns for my EDC gun. Why I like it best is because it is a DA/SA with a decocker. I can keep a round in the chamber and 10 in the mag. So if I ever needed it it is ready to go. No thinking. I have put thousands and thousands rounds thru it, I know it and trust it. DA/SA, DA is about 6lbs, alloy frame and steel slide. It is built better than a Walther ppks. Walthers frame and slide are made of Zamak and so are the Phoenix Arms HP22. Beretta 21A is high quality build, the sights are terrible, a point and shoot gun. 7 round mag. Smaller size than the Bersa. Do not like the long DA so I rarely shoot it. Never carry it. Beretta 70s. Oldy but goody. Quality build. Only 8 round mag. Single action only. Have to carry it with out a round in the chamber or cocked and locked. Not doing that! So it stays home. The Walther PPKS 22 is a nicely built but heavier than the Bersa. 10 round mag. It is also a DA/SA. The DA is 25Lbs Yuck! Heavy and heavy pull. Gets left it home. The Phoenix Arms HP22. This was my carry gun before I had the Bersa. 10 round mag. Single action only. I did not feel comfortable carrying a round in the chamber. It is small, fits in pocket nicly. sights are better than the Beretta 21A. You need to do mods to disable the redundant safeties. Doing mods, not a good thing if you ever have to use your gun. So I leave it home. That being said I would carry any of them if I had to. For me the Bersa wins. Build - Alloy Frame, Steel Slide Capacity 10 + 1 Trigger - Best DA/SA, with Decocker Weight - not the lightest or the heaviest Size - longest overall, But still small enough for pocket carry
My first pistol was my great grandfather's Beretta 71 22lr. Love it, very reliable. Just can't find another mag for it. Tried a couple after markets from K something but didn't work.
I have had an olrder Barretta .22lr pistol for years. I have even carried it as a backup on occasion. It has always gone bang when I pulled the trigger. I probably should the replace the main spring. When I was on a range alone (not a really good idea), I would set up some targets between the targets and starting point so I could practice enroute downrange to paste up my rifle targets. It is small and I was surprised at how often I could hit targets at quick point/shoot situations. It was a fun situation. Thanks for the video.
I recently purchased the M&P Shield 380 EZ. It’s now my EDC. A great trigger, light weight and decent capacity. I carry it IWB. It’s not for pocket carry. For range work I use the M&P 22LR Compact. Its the perfect companion to the 380. Physically it’s almost identical in size with much less expensive ammo.
Love shooting that semi auto pistol in 22LR. Its been reliable & such a nice feel overall. Only thing is its Big for a carry weapon. I also have the Ruger SR22 in 22LR its smaller easy to carry & shoots about the same only my magazine only holds 13 rounds with the new follower installed in the magazine. Both of these are really good pistols.
I own the S&W Compact in 22LR and it’s awesome...After 4000 rounds I’ve literally had no issues at all. I run Federal bulk 40 grain and CCI Mini Mags 36 grain at 1260 FPS...
Thanks for the honest and no bs reviews you do. You and others on You Tube help keep the manufactures on their toes by not turning out junk because I'm sure they watch these reviews too knowing if somethings wrong it's gonna show up here.
I'll give an A+ for the Taurus PT22, I've owned one for 10 years, I carry it, I practice with it, it's reliable. I've also tried the Beretta, too small grip. I like the larger grip of the Taurus.
Yeah people always shit on the Taurus PT22, but honestly it's a really good gun for the price a lot more reliable than one might think from such a cheap gun. I love mine. It's perfect for conceal carry in my opinion.
another good video! My choice is the .32 acp/.32 Smith and Wesson long. Yeah I realize there is not much industry support for ammo but with those rounds I have a centerfire primer for reliability and the penetration on a .32 is superior to a .22 recoil is not an issue either. Do not overlook the .32s.
The NAA revolver has a purpose and that is as a deep cover handgun , meaning it is a hideout not meant to be found easily or gotten to easily . It could be thought of as a backup to the backup pistol and a lot of officers would carry them as a hideout . The advantage of this mini revolver is it's size , weight and it's ability not to be seen easily . It is extremely well constructed and even has a safety notch to be carried with the hammer down between cartridges . It is best used as a contact weapon where the projectile and the expelled gases work as one and what other handgun could you concealed in warm weather with skimpy clothing .
As far as I can remember, I’ve had very few failures with .22s. Of course, I only use good quality, American made ammo. I have a Walther P22. It shoots good, no failures and no signs of wear
Thanks for covering this. I bought a 38 special Smith & Wesson a couple of years ago and absolutely hated shooting it. I only shot maybe a dozen rounds through it and sold it back to the store I got it from. The kickback was brutal and it turned me off from pistols or the idea of CC (I live in Chicago and have been held up once and have been in numerous other potentially violent and dangerous situations). I wanted a revolver for perceived reliability and ease of use but found that that was the wrong choice for me. And before any gives me a bunch of grief about being a wimp, I'm a 33 year old, 6'2", 220 lbs guy. I'm just not a huge gun person and haven't had much experience with handguns.
The Phoenix isn't any bulkier than the 22 snub nose revolvers that you mentioned earlier and in my experience is extremely reliable. The Phoenix is also pretty accurate at distances of 3 to 7 yards. At about $120 the Phoenix is a pretty good option for those that don't have much money to spend.
Had a few issues with FTE and had to rack back the slide. A friends gun that we both bought at same time didn’t have this issue. Also a design issue is it doesn’t rack back the slide open after last shot. This is just a range safety issue and there is a warranty negating work-around if desired.
I own or have owned a Ruger LCP 22, Ruger MK IV, Phoenix P22, Beretta bobcat, Taurus PT 22 and a Walther P22. In terms of reliability, the Bobcat was just OK. The Walther (an early version) and Taurus were terrible even after sending them in. The first three on my list have been flawless. All I ever shoot is CCI mini mags and CCI standard velocity. Both work well. Good video
I know that the Phoenix 22 is a budget friendly pistol but in my experience it is very reliable. I only bought it for some cheap range fun and never carry it but have put just under 1200 rounds through it with 4 cleanings and have never had a failure to feed, I have always used aguila standard velocity in it and have never had a failure to fire as of yet either. I know eventually it will have a failure but so far for a $120 gun I have been very impressed. It also has pretty good ergonomics for a small pistol and has a great weight to it. I do hate the mag safety disconnect but this can be done awake with if you don't mind a minor mod to it.
Phx arms hp22 has been more reliable than my browning buck mark or ruger 10/22 in my experience. Way fewer failures. And yes, it’s cheaply made, but it works.
I always considered the .22 mag a good idea until I watched Paul Harrel's test. It's not horrible, but the bullets are not made for defense of things larger than a fox. I'd go with a .38spl with target loads if recoil is an issue and .22LR is too small.
@@CandidZulu watch chopping block test/tfb tv test on 9mm vs 38. 38 doesnt do very well for more recoil out of a revolver vs 9mm revolver. But considering 22 mag, no its not the best. But 22 mag is what i carry when its hard to concel a 9mm. Or its backup. Something better than nothing
@@CandidZulu You have to consider with .22 Magnum, ammo selection is very important. If you use light 30gr loads like the V-Max projectiles, in short barrels they do quite well. As do specific short barrel performance loads like Hornady Critical Defense and Speer Gold Dots. In a revolver, something like the Winchester Dyna-Point does well as it doesnt cycle reliably in something like the Kel-Tec PMR-30 or other semi autos. I quite often will carry an 8 shot .22 Magnum revolver and it's more than adequate for self defense with the proper loads. Out of a rifle, .22 WMR is still something to be reckoned with, much more powerful compared to .22 LR. I can see where some say that the extra cost/recoil isnt worth it in certain size guns. But from personal experience with both hunting and several tests, the .22 WMR vs .22 LR is about the same difference between .32 ACP and .380 ACP. There is a noticeable difference both on paper and on impact with proper loads, using FMJ in typical carry guns for the caliber you dont see a massive difference, but with good expanding ammo in either, you do see a noticeable difference on impact.
Well said. I fail to see any likely incident when the 22mag in my pocket will be insufficient to end the issue. If it is insufficient, it won’t be the caliber of the cartridges.
@@johnnybeanz1296 Statistics would disagree with you to an extent. Generally speaking yes, a .22 WMR will get the job done by all accounts. People dont want to get shot, even by something as small as say .22 Short and etc. However, when you look at the data about various calibers... .22 WMR isnt often viewed favorably mostly because there's so few incidents it gets used. From a 3 inch revolver or from a 4 inch semi auto, it's got about the same ballistics as .380 ACP from a 3 inch barrel, which according to data will serve you just as well as a 9mm, .40 S&W, .45 ACP, and etc. Downside is, most guys carrying .22 WMR are carrying small snub noses or those little NAA revolvers. That could effect performance and bring it's relative effective scale down some, but as many have said before me. Something is better than nothing and personally I'd rather have something like a Ruger LCR in a snub nose configuration in .22 WMR than .22 LR if only because the differences in penetration alone.
My expe5ience: I shot thousands of rounds.22LR in Bull's eye competition and a misfire is VERY rare when using good ammo. (CCI) and a good pistol. Perhaps 2 in a thousand? Even good centerfire fires are prone to stovepipes on occasion.
@Jeff Jones Copy that, 21a all the way. Can't beat the sweet DA/SA trigger, second strike capability, pop up barrel, etc. Great little feather light easy to shoot companion. Bulk bought a ton of CCI MM Jacketed ball, and Federal Auto match on a sale. I'd have to say it's sweet music with the Fed Auto Match, but have experienced some feeding issues on the Jacketed CCI. Seems the jacket likes to stick in the round on deck on occasion. Just one light primer in hundreds of rounds on the CCI. Went on the second strike. Just run a mag or three at the end of a session to help keep that rifling clean between cleanings. Not one hiccup with the Federal Auto match. Not alot of experience with the 22lr autos, but I certainly am please with my little Bobcat. Got the big brother 3032 32 acp Tomcat too. Both in Inox. Switch off depending on situation. Often running solo carry lately. Most days I'll have one in my RF pants pocket or moved to someplace handier, and another mag in LF pants pocket. Home runs by Beretta on both in my book
@@andyostertag I had to sell my bobcat a few years ago but will eventually pick up another one. Just now getting a shotgun and rimfire rifle back in the house and should be able to replace my pistol this summer. Have a Blessed Christmas and Holiday season.
Well said.. My first one was the S&W 317 and my second model was the 351 PD.. Never had a misfire with either one in 12 years now.. The LCR model I have looked at but no further.. If a person works at it like my 351 PD you will surprise yourself how good you really can get , even though the barrel length is just under 2".. I carry it, works fine.. CCI has Short Barrel ammo loaded with Gold Dot bullets. In my book it's a winner..
Revolver is the way to go loaded with stingers. I never had a dud round with a cci product. Remington ammo is the worst in rimfire with Winchester coming in second. Federal ammuition are also a good choice if cci is not available.
I have a Taurus PLY22 that fits in my top shirt pocket unlike nearly all other pistols.. Reliable, easy to clean, shoots CCI mini mag 40gr with no problems. hard to rack. At 15 feet in a few seconds all 9 rounds go in an 8-inch circle. $200. very happy.
I own a NAA 22 magnum with a 1.25” barrel. I would challenge anyone carrying a sharp stick against the NAA 22 magnum. Any pistol used for self defense is better than no gun at all. Agreed, some guns are better than others. Every gun has a different ability and purpose. Or are you the guy that saws a 2x4 with a backhoe?
Pug man here. Plus I splurged and went with smith 351pd and already had the pmr30. 22mag looks good to me. A platoon with ar 15s could take me, but they probably could with just sticks, too.
I got the folding grip 1.63 barrel mag, with LR cylinder. Just bought 2 "black powder" cylinders . That supposedly were advertised as being proofed up to hot smokless powder until the ATF came a calling. Still can keep shooting if there is a run on 22, $40 per cylinder and I think $10 for 250 lead bullets. $ 8 for the loading tool.
I completely agree.... "Any pistol used for self defense is better than no gun at all"..... Soooo if you're going to get one for close quarters, why would you choose a weakarse one? May as well advocate air pistols or hotted up nerf guns? and why "love on" an unreliable weapon???? Are you trying to save 23.4 cents on a round when a drug crazed idiot is coming at you? Foolish thinking, get a real gun for real jobs and save that for bunnies (well at least when it works)
Anthony Spanjich I usually carry my 12 gage shotgun in my sweater. That’s my first line of defense. After that I go for my 10mm I carry up front for immediate first draw of at ready pistols. What you will only see on me is my service 357 revolver, most reliable, after that are my right back and left hip inside the waste matching SW 2.0. And my NAA 22 mag 5 shot in my pocket, just in case. Not to mention the total of 136 rounds for the toys. But most important is that I’m at the range twice a week to keep up my competition abilities and daily practicing weapons draw. No loaded weapons during quick draw practice since I do that at home. Yeah, I like my NAA just as much. But I am having trouble getting volunteers to hold targets for me while practicing with my 22mag. It seems that everyone I ask is afraid of getting hit. I wonder why. You think you can help me out with my targets?
I heard that Phoenix arms hp22 is an absolute tank with a dedicated fan base .I wish I bought one new what 3yrs ago? 4yrs ago? When they were 90$ at a booth in every single gun show
Sometimes I watch these videos and think, "Yep. Nothing needs to said. He laid it all out completely". Then, I scroll right on down to the comment section and I JUST CAN'T HELP MYSELF! I have a .22. That Beretta doesn't have an extractor. Nice video. My wife can carry that in her purse. Stand in front of it. Bring enough gun. Thumbs up! I subscribed. I fired a certain pistol once amd didn't like it. I go smaller. I go bigger. Stand in front of it. I carry that! .22 is better than .25. .22 has killed more species than any other caliber. Great video. Stand in front of it...
I got a PPK/S .22 back in 2014. Took it straight to the range without cleaning or lubricating. 50rds of CCI Velocitor and 50rds of CCI Stinger. Zero malfunctions. Deliberately left it dirty without cleaning. Back at the range a few weeks later I did the same thing. 100rds of Velocitor and Stinger with no failures. Repeat again. No cleaning. Third trip to the range with a dirty gun it finally had one single failure to feed halfway through a 100rd box of CCI Mini-Mags. I'm pretty satisfied and feel confident with this pistol's reliability. Keep it cleaned and lubed and feed it with "hyper-velocity" premium ammo and it won't fail.
I have three of them. I had more but, every so often I jam the barrel with concrete and load them up. Then I throw them in the street when I drive through the ghetto.
Different stroke for different folks I guess. I quite enjoy my Ruger sr22. Got it for my wife, since she wanted something with very little recoil but I have ended up shooting it more often than she has.
With a steel slide & alloy frame, the Thunder 22 isn't "cheap". It may be inexpensive, but it will chew through MiniMags like a fat kid through a bag of Halloween candy, and it'll do so pretty much forever.
NAA revolvers are awesome. Aside from being cool, they are very light weight, very concealable, and very loud when fired. Even if you don't hit an attacker, he usually isn't going to stick around once you're firing at him. 5 rounds is amazing for such a small gun. I have a video where I shoot 5 rounds with the NAA revolver from 15 feet away and get a group about an inch, maybe less than an inch. They're good guns.
S&W M&P 22C is awesome! A little longer than the Shield! I bought one because Cabela's ran out of the Walther P22 they had on sale! I fell in love with the M&P 22C!
I have had a phoenix arms 22 for 3 years carried it for 3 years and have had in the 3 years 2 Ftf period 2 and i shoot this gun all the time . I think YOU might ask yourself the question do you believe in progress ? They are cheap to make because everything is cheaper to make as we learn how to perfect manufacturing. I also carry a taurus G2C and just so we can clear up a few things ahead of time I have been known to carry a CZ and a XD as well so i am not cheaping out i am simply saying sometimes things work just because they work and sometimes like say a sig that is a piece of junk is so regardless of price.
Thanks for the video, always enjoy catching up with this channel!! I have the M&P 22 Compact. It is awesome. It has eaten everything I feed it. The only issue is when it was new, it would sometimes not feed the second round of any type of ammo that had a mid case crimp, Or, a very light bullet. Broken in, and mag springs exercised, Just load it up, and let 'er eat!
My Dad had an H&R .22lr revolver. It was the 1st pistol I ever fired, and I loved it. I don't remember having and soft strikes, either with that or the .22lr target rifles I used on the target range. My Dad ran the small bore rifle range for our local "Junior Sportsman's Club", so we were using cheap bulk ammo, and this was back in the 80s. By 12 or 13 years old, I was an NRA "Marksman 1st Class" with he .22lr and hit an average of 20/25 clays on the trap range with a cheapie 12 gauge shotgun.
I agree. I own an M&P .45 and have owned a gen 2 9mm and the damn things are squeaky and rough. Of course I do shoot them very well and I’m quick at the range with them as well, (I’m convinced someone is playing a joke on me and punching holes in the middle of my targets when I shoot). But the M&P .22 is amazing and I have nothing bad to say about it whatsoever. (I switched to Glock for my competition guns as well as CZ but I guess the M&P’s will work, I just don’t like their “feel” in spite of my ability to shoot them very well.
Great video. I really like that you're covering the topics that get automatically shot down without discussion in the concealed carry world. I'd never carry something smaller than a .380 personally, but I told a lot of people when I worked in firearms sales that a .22 is still better than a knife. I totally agree that a revolver is the way to go for the most part, there's just too much of a risk of a dud with a .22. If you're going to lug around a semi-automatic, at that point why not look at a .380, a .32 or something along those lines? Again though, I'm really enjoying this series and appreciate you devoting some time to the application of firearms that are "taboo" in the concealed carry discussion. I don't know how many times I've heard people tell me that someone is crazy if they carry less than a 9mm. That's not even getting into the Tactical Toms that will call you a dumbass if you carry anything less than a Glock 19 with an extra mag.
TankerD18 yup, reality is every good guy with a gun is worth 10 bad guys even if they “only” have .22’s. and if they practice with a .22 it’s way better then a .44 magnum they don’t practice with. (.22’s are fun and cheap what’s not to like, other then terminal ballistics?)
It may or may NOT be Better than a knife! It all depends on the circumstances. You can also say that a FIST can be better than a Knife and on and on and on .......
The smaller the caliber the more important the shot placement. Many people who are lacking in skill or practice go to small rounds due to lack of confidence but in the hands of a skilled shooter they can be quite capable.
My pheonix arms hp22a is very reliable and has only failed to fire once because of cheap ammo. Quality ammo in this gun makes it a great pocket pistol. Many others will say the same. I have a s&w 9mm but I'd rather carry my .22 because I trust it.
I carried both a Beretta 92 & 96 and a Glock 22 for my career in LE and if you want to carry a load on your hip feel free. Do it for 27 years and let me know how it feels. Remember YOU as a CCW holder do NOT have to take ANY enforcement action. You carry for SELF PROTECTION and that of your family and in rare instances......an innocent victim.
great video. I appreciate the honest assessments of the guns. I was looking at the SR22 for a pistol to shoot with my kids. I am glad i went with the MkIV, 22/45 I didn't realize that the safety on the SR22 was backwards. I have never seen that mentioned in a review before.
Ain't nothing wrong with the N.A.A. (North American Arms) 22LR revolver. Mine did save my life about 1979 . I still have the knife scar on my side but the Mugger has a serious throat ache . They still can do the job when needed at close range.
When it comes to misfires, or hang fires, it is typically recommended to keep the firearm pointed in a safe direction for at least 30 seconds in order to be sure the round doesn't fire after, or as, you are trying to determine what happened, reloading, etc. There could be some serious complications if a true hang-fire incident occurred using a revolver and you simply pulled the trigger again to advance the cylinder to the next round. That's not to say that serious problems with hang fire cannot be had with semi-autos as well. My point is, that to say you simply pull the trigger again on a double-action revolver, recock a single action revolver, or rack the slide to eject the bad round and continue shooting, is possibly going to have a bad result. That being said, in a self-defense situation, you might have to either risk it, or be killed by an assailant. To my knowledge, and I'm no expert, hangfire problems are much more common with rimfire cartridges. This might be one reason to avoid .22 caliber for self-defense. Another reason I would think twice about a .22 for self-defense is their poor performance when it comes to stopping or killing a larger animal such as a human. Yes, Bobby Kennedy was killed by a single shot from a .22, and I'm sure many others have died from having been shot with a .22. However, I have seen assailants and defenders alike keep functioning for a long time even after being shot with larger rounds, like the .380, 9mm, 10mm, and even larger. Placement makes a lot of difference, but it matters less and less as the caliber of the round increases (with a corresponding energy increase).
I thought sbout getting a .22 as self defense weapon. It is cheap, light and i surely can handle the knockback. But i got some questions before, like the thing u said with stopping a larger animal or a human. Is it possible to like damage a humans leg with like 2-3 shots. I know some survived 2 9mm magazines in a police chase and still ran, but i dont think the cop aimed for the legs. More for the stomach
I purchased some 9 mm at a gun show once. I don't know what country made it, but it did have Arab writing. It was the worst junk ammo I ever bought. Every possible problem one can have with ammo showed up with this junk.
Bought the Ruger SR22 and a S+W XD compact 9mm. Got into money troubles and sold both for $650.00. I never shot the SR22. I regret getting rid of both. But when hard times hit! You liquidate your arsenal. Now its Covid and Anarchy in the streets. Boy, I wish I had that pair back the S+W XD compact was 13 and 18 rounds and 3 other 18 round mags to go with the weapon. Great case and a flat shooter. Had fire power out the Ass! Oh, Well! I guess my 642 in 38 + P and My Ruger Lc9s 9mm Pro. NO safety! 7 and 9 rd mag's will just have to do! Found a Marlin 60 14 shot 22 lr rifle at Wal-Mart for $163.00. Beggers cant be choosy. Good luck to all! Keep your wits and keep your head down too. Shawn.
Just saw this video and I feel like I need to chime in. I own a Ruger SR22 pistol back from the first year of production; serial prefix 360 and the number itself is less than 12k. I've shot the little bugger at every range session for warm-up and cool-off when I was going to shoot any of my carry pistols and have brought it along to fend off roving bands of soda cans when sighting in a rifle or two. I have witnessed my own pistol jam twice in seven years, discounting a few primers with performance anxiety (Only happened with Remington Thunderbolts). One was an odd stovepipe I couldn't figure the reason for and the second was a failure to feed that was my own fault for not seating the magazine well enough. The trigger, while not great by any measure, isn't in the realm that I would call bad. The double action pull is fine. It's as heavy as you can expect from a double action rimfire with zero take-up, stacking or grittiness; just a smooth, if heavy pull all the way back. Single action isn't as pretty. It feels almost like a two-stage trigger, but not in a good way. There's a good bit of take-up on the trigger, but at least my example behaves quite well after that with a clean break. Reset is what I would call "meh". You can feel it for sure, but it's all the way forward to where the single action pull is at rest anyway and you have to take up the slop again. It's there where the trigger fails to impress me. Not perfect, but not going to effect performance at the end of the day. The frame mounted safety, well, I just use it as a decocker. Problem solved. I have carried the pistol in many occasions when I didn't yet own a Ruger LCP and it was the lightest option I had. The threat profile I was expecting pretty much stopped at a grumpy raccoon or a stray dog, an armed attacker wasn't at all likely so a .22lr was perfectly suitable in my opinion. So, would I recommend the Ruger SR22? Absolutely yes.
22 ammo has come along way from what it used to be. CCI is pretty dependable. I trust my life with it in the woods with a old school Marlin model 60. I have other guns that's a bigger caliber but I was raised all a man needs us a good 22lr and a good shotgun was all a man needs. As long as u can shoot.
It may be to late but just a suggestion. The NAA revolver is very shootable with the large grips they offer, especially the black widow model. Thanks for the great content and honest reviews! Keep up the great job!
Can we get an update to this?
Agreed
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That would be nice
Yes, the game has changed
My mother has carried a 21A-.22 Beretta since the 1990's, and just turned 88 this year. The flip-up barrel makes it easy for her to load, and the double-action trigger means she does not have to pull the slide to shoot. It has always performed flawlessly, and shot accurately. I wouldn't care to be on the receiving end of it, and that's what counts. Before that, she carried a 2-shot over & under .22 Derringer, which was easy to load, although it was a bit of a struggle to cock the tiny, heavily sprung hammer. My favorite growing up was a Hi-Standard Double-Nine .22, an extremely accurate 9-shot, double-action revolver that never failed and was a breeze to clean and service. Not exactly a pocket pistol, but one has to start somewhere. Another dead-accurate compact .22 was our Armalite AR-7 .22LR. Again, not a pocket pistol, but was absolutely unbeatable for accuracy, reliability, serviceability, portability, and it even floated if dropped in the water, thanks to the hollow, airtight plastic stock! When you have owned and shot a variety of GOOD .22's, you can feel confident that the caliber is enough to defend yourself, should the need arise!
I love my M&P .22lr compact! I carry it often with the best of ammo that I reserve for its use. What a pistol. I also love my M&P Shield 9mm but the main reason that I carry a .22lr is that the danger to innocent bystanders is much lessened by missed shots and ricochets. There is a lawyer attached to every round. As always Chris good work!
My wife carries my grandma's Hi Standard late 50s, 9 shot .22 revolver. Works like a champ. Heavy trigger I believe is to make it more difficult to "accidentally" fire.
I've carried a lot of various pocket 22 handguns over the years. Revolvers are my favorite. My pocket 22 at this time is a Phoenix Arms 22 auto. With the factory recommended ammo, standard velocity 40 grain lead bullets, it has been totally reliable and accurate. I don't like that I'm not comfortable carrying a round in the chamber. But I picked it up like New in the box, for :$75. I carry it in my front pants pocket in an Uncle Mike's pocket holster. Usually as a back up to a larger caliber pistol. But once in a while as my main gun. I have used it once. I was parked in a store parking lot, waiting for my son to get off work. An obviously drugged up guy was staggering around, looking in cars. I pulled it out and laid it in the seat beside me. He approached my truck. I watched him very carefully as he did. He walked right up to me. He didn't say anything, but looked in. He seen my gun and my hand beside it. He quickly staggered off. I called 911 and told them I was concerned about him and gave his description. He continued his weird activities until 2 county cop cars quickly showed up. They made contact with him and cuffed him. My son came out and we left as the cops drove off with him. I'm not sure what he was on, or what he was planning on doing. But the sight of the little silver Phoenix 22 beside me quickly sent him away from me. $75 well spent.
Nice info at top of your comments. 🤗
shadow wolf, what ammo did u have in it at the time?
That was probably the best $75 you ever spent
I carry a hp22a as well. Where did you get it for 75 dollars
I believe if you start punching ~1/4” holes in someone’s vital spots they are going to re-think their options ...
Forget it... I'm a hunter that has used many calibres. We are talking about concealed carry's aren't we? - last resort, close range weapons???? You'd have to ask a drug fueled idiot to nicely stand still as you empty at least 5 shots - unless you get lucky and hit a "vital spot".... go on..... think you're that good but chances are you'll just wound him and get stabbed to death. Go bigger for this job and they won't be standing. I know what I'd pick. Hey- why not advocate air pistols????? same $hit
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I disagree. Getting shot is getting shot. Most criminals, just like everyone else,
at the end of the day just want to go home. A 22lr may not be the biggest caliber
out there, but trust me, it's more than enough to deter or stop a threat. I live in one
of the most dangerous cities in America. Detroit Michigan and I have no problem carrying a
22lr or a 357 magnum for self-defense. Most criminals from what I've heard (unfortunately
you meet all kinds in my neighborhood) say that they would rather be shot with a 9mm
than a 22lr. Real criminals have much respect for the 22lr and no one is going to just stand there
once you start pumping round of any caliber in them! Most will run for the hills!
Everyone wants to talk about that rare scenario where a drug fuel maniac is coming
at you to do you harm... If this is the situation, it really doesn't matter what caliber you're using
If you don't have Good shot placement. Unless you can get the the body of the threat
to shut down completely, they're going to keep coming after you. So a this point a
head shot is the best choice. And a 22lr to the head will stop just about any threat.
Hey, but if the biggest caliber you can carry floats your boat. Have at it.
But if we're talking real world, self-defense scenarios... A 22lr will stop or deter
most threats/bad guys. Just showing that you have the ability to defend your self
is enough to deter most criminals/bad guys.
Carry what you are comfortable with and shoot well.
Be safe and God bless.
@@redzone1019 I agree that anything is better than nothing and good shot placement can bring lesser penetrating rounds up to task. Unfortunately I had 4 drug crazed thugs turn up 20 years ago to steal a friends V8 commodore parked in front of our house. They were nicknamed the "T-Bone crew" (should be able to look them up - in Perth Western Australia). Their MO was to steal 2 cars for a night of fun - where one car would get in a chase with police and stop at an organised spot - whereupon the second car would ram the police car side on, scum get out of the smashed car and hop into the "good one" in front of the mangled police car and leave. They knew that the Police car was weakest side on - these were bad dudes. A few Police were injured badly in this way. They were at my place to steal the second car. I pulled my (22 hornet at the time) at them from the front door and simply announced the Police were on their way.... ^%$# off. This did not deter them in the slightest. 2 kept breaking into the car and 2 came straight at me (with knife / bar). When they got to 20m, I loaded and was just about to shoot the first one - I was already calculating if I'd be quick enough to drop the second before they got to my family - and if they'd both stay down. They stopped, one laughed at me (???), and they just walked back to their car and they all took off (second now successfully started up). My problem is that the 22 hornet very rarely dropped a Roo the size of a human with one shot when going for centre mass (running targets etc). These guys were going to rush me if I started shooting and head shots that quick - well not many would achieve that. I didn't have my fathers 12G that night (but sure wished I did) - so I bought my own after that (and moved up to 223 - I needed that anyway due to range limitation hunting). So I started with 22LR, went to 22 hornet, then 223 and ultimately 243... plus 12G (I hunted a lot - many pests on the farm). I instantly noticed a massive increase in effectiveness if we used the 12G whilst driving bush tracks - and 223 / 243 across paddocks so relegated the 22LR to bunnies. From my hunting experience, I know that the 12G that night would be a show stopper if necessary - but probably (?) not the 22 hornet and they may well have made it in. Add to that this very well researched article on lethality and that is why I think like I do. I have absolutely no doubt that an expert shooter with a 22 can be devastating.... but 4 heavily drugged thugs (it was Crystal Meth they were found with - look it up - supreme "chemical bravery), night time, everyone moving, family behind me in the house horrified etc is a very scary situation..... with me worried that I have enough firepower to protect.
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I feel what you saying and I do agree that bigger calibers have more stopping power.
I've also had a few close calls with thieves, drug dealers, drug addicts and the occasional just
plain crazy. One of the most important things you can do in a self-defense situation is to demonstrate
that you are willing to fight back. Most criminals, like animal predators in the wild, want a easy target.
When you show that you are willing to fight back and have the means/ability to fight back most criminals/bad guys
will back off. I know this from personal experience. I'm glad you and your family are okay. You do what
you think is best to protect you and your family. And I do have other calibers for self-defense besides the
humble 22lr. Lol. The point that I was trying to make was don't underestimate the humble 22lr.
If you can't hit the broad side of a barn with a 45acp etc. Don't use a 45acp etc. (Smile)
Use whatever you are comfortable and shoot the best.
God bless and be safe.
Oh yeah, I personally also prefer the 410 over the 12ga. Lol.
Just saying... Almost no recoil, quicker follow up shots and at self-defense
distances... Devastating! Good talking to ya. Take care.
Try that with a 250 lb crackhead that's all strung out
The gun you are comfortable with, is the gun you will use. 22LR or not.
amen and ill keep my 22s both rifles and pistols
Bingo!
And in 2021, there’s not a lot of center fire ammo around, and the prices are stupid
Exactly. That's why I carry 10mm.
True Tony, which is why I prefer the heft and hand feel of both a Springfield Armory ND9 or S&W 9SWE? over the overly fat grip of a Glock 17 or 34. But for .22lr the Phoenix Arms HP-22a semiautomatic is an easy fit with the pinky mag extended.
I am loving this series!
I usually carry a center fire pistol. Lately my choice is a S&W 40c. I shoot it pretty good. However, I have carried a Walther P22. I can shoot the P22 more accurately and easily twice as fast as my center fires.
Every time I go to the range I take the P22. I'll shoot several hundered rounds each session. Thats a bonus with shooting 22lr. Just about anyone can afford enough ammo to become proficient.
Something to be aware of with the Beretta 21a, it has no extractor or ejector so clearing a FTF is a different operation than most pistols. I have the Model 20 in .25 and it has been 100% reliable with factory ammo and reloads except that on the last round the case will occasionally get jammed in the slide as it closes because there's no round below it to act as an ejector. If fired without the magazine in they'll jam very frequently, generally not important, but it's good to know just in case.
My Mother in Laws neighbor was trying to push her to a .357 revolver for home defense,... She's mid 70's, small frame & not strong.
Giving her a cannon with only a few rounds was a horrible idea so I suggested a Marlin 60 or Ruger 10/22 so she can have 16 to 25 rounds of CCI Stingers which are 1680 fps with hollow points :)
Now she has good control & plenty of ammo in the dark ;)
Trying to get her going a decent size .38 or .380 might be better for outside the home. So long as it's not a micro-compact pistol she can probably handle it fine.
The REALLY tiny .380's will feel more like a .40 though, just because they are so small.
Inside the home a 9mm carbine could be a good choice too.
Don't bother giving her +P loads or anything like that either. Even with a soft load .380 and .38 outperform .22lr, .25acp, and .32acp by a lot.
If all she likes is the .22lr then just leave her be though.
excellent choice! I have been an advocate of .22 Rifles (semi auto) for Home defense for YEARS! Now get her a .22 Handgun to go along with it. You might want to consider a .32 Handgun as well.
I concur, and own a Marlin 60, it is an extremely accurate rifle, and I can dump rounds fast with it.
First rule of gunfights; carry a gun.
Lost second rule; cheat and never play fair. But yes, rule number one is about 100 times more important then any other rule.
That’s not a gunfight rule, that’s a rule for life. Trouble always seems to find trouble makers, and rarely finds those who mind their own business and avoid trouble. But when it does show up, running is not always the best answer, but is sure solves about 95% of confrontations.
third rule for gunfights; take an automatic weapon
See rule number 2. Cheat always and done fight fair. You will always be at the disadvantage unless you are the attacker so don’t fight fair, ever.
Rule one of a gunfight: Bring a gun, preferably two guns. Bring all of your friends who have guns
5:16 Hi Chris, Please note on the Bobcat if you have a failure to fire simply racking the slide
does NOT chamber a fresh round & make it ready to fire. Bobcat uses gas from fired round
to eject casing, NOT an ejector. An unfired round remains in the barrel so racking slide tries
to load a round with no place to go. Have to remove mag and both the racked round and
round from barrel. In actuality (less than ideal in a must shoot situation) tip up barrel has
to be opened, faulty shell dumped or if jammed pried out of barrel, then either insert new
round before closing barrel or close it then rack slide to load empty barrel. Love my bobcat
22lr but don't consider it as CCW for the above reason. Now my 25acp Bobcat.....maybe.
Naaa, actually with similar size Sig P238 available there's no reason to carry anything else.
I believe the OP here means extract/extractor, not eject/ejector
Great video , it always amazes me how folks underestimate the 22lr while it wouldn’t be my first choice for defense it will definitely ruin your day if your unlucky enough to get shot by one
Bingo 👍
It certainly can ruin your day. During the holiday season when I was a 6th grader a friend was changing seats in the family vehicle. In the process he inadvertently discharging a 22 rifle. The bullet struck his head, killing him instantly.
I just got a Phoenix HP22A and I am very pleased with it. It has been accurate and reliable so far. I have a lot more rounds through my Taurus TX22 and with over a thousand rounds it has had only two ammo related failures to fire. I would feel adequately armed with either one and have put the Phoenix HP22A into my backup pocket carry rotation. It fits the same pocket holster I use with my Taurus TCP or my S&W M&P Bodyguard. Thanks for the video.
I have two of the Phoenix pistols... their size makes them easy to carry as a secondary, or ankle, and I will often stow in backpack or bag. My main CC is S&W M&P9. During qualifications, the HP22A's were accurate, and had no failures...the only challenge I had with them was when I used the extended mags (with the pinkie finger support)...I did have two failures with these. I modified both of mine so that I can install the mag at anytime, and eliminated the firing pin block safety so that there are fewer steps to take when in a pickle. rack and go.
Has anybody tried the extended barrel? What did you think?
HP22A likes CCI.
This channel seriously deserves more subscribers. Love the content!
Agreed, it’s my favorite channel. Plus he covers unconventional topics
Definitely. The videos are outstanding.
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My Bersa Firestorm in .22lr is the perfect concealed carry sidearm. Double-single action with external safety with hammer drop, 10 rounds plus one, fits in pocket but I can get my whole hand around it. Finally, it is the most accurate pistol I have ever fired, and I have fired many.
Had my SR22 for a year now, love it... had no problems with it yet.. I don't regret buying it..
My slide broke after less than 100 rounds. Luck of the "draw" I suppose
I don't think any criminal in the world has said " It's just a 22, I'm still going to kill you " and lived.
Tony Absolute AM they don’t say it. They do it. You clearly haven’t seen anybody on pcp or meth
@@Galaxyrose-yn9kc for that matter any caliber. If somebody is on PCP or Matthew you always have to hit him with multiple rounds. Any gun.
@@Galaxyrose-yn9kc have you? The gun that best serves is the gun that you can handle
@galaxyrose 117 will you be willing to get shot with a .22? NO ONE, Seems to be willing to stand there and test their opinion. More people die in the U.S. by a 22LR than any other caliber. If it was a mosquito bite a lot of people would live
@@joejoe188 I carry 22 mag really is maybe 1 oz less than a carry 38 special 5 shot, but with the 22 mag you have three extra shots. If your goal is to win a fight the 22 might not be the best gun but if your goal is to break contact with your enemy the 22 mag might be a great gun.
Something to think about, if you ever have to fire a pistol in a defensive situation indoors with out hearing protection the big calibers might leave your ears ringing so bad that you might not be able to hear what your attackers are doing or the police when they show up. Maybe the smaller calibers like a .22 might be leave you with enough of your hearing to get by.
22lr still better then throwing sticks and stones
I used to own a pellet gun that shot in the mid to low end of the .22lr's power range :S But then again, that thing had some nasty penetration for a silly pellet shooter. Shot 3-4" into plywood
You would know if it hit you.
For the people who think its silly to carry a 22lr or think its useless. Put a few rounds to their face and see how they feel after that one.
my name Agreed. But I wouldn’t want to stake my life on it. I read a police account years ago in Handgun magazine were an officer emptied his .38 revolver into a suspect who had just shot his partner, and it didn’t stop him! Suspect was taken live by a swat team after he retreated into a house.
@@louseal7574 definitely...pop one or two into an eye socket or ear during a grapple for your life. Most gun fights are at grappling distances.. no sights, Weaver stance, or two handed grip involved
I'm finna get that
Thanks for this series! I love .22 pocket pistols.
I have the Beretta 21A, Beretta 70s in .22 cal, Walther PPKS 22, Bersa 22 and the Phoenix Arms HP22. They are all good guns.
My experience with these guns.
I carry every day. I love my Bersa 22. It is my go to. Fits in my pocket & It beats out the other guns for my EDC gun. Why I like it best is because it is a DA/SA with a decocker. I can keep a round in the chamber and 10 in the mag. So if I ever needed it it is ready to go. No thinking. I have put thousands and thousands rounds thru it, I know it and trust it. DA/SA, DA is about 6lbs, alloy frame and steel slide. It is built better than a Walther ppks. Walthers frame and slide are made of Zamak and so are the Phoenix Arms HP22.
Beretta 21A is high quality build, the sights are terrible, a point and shoot gun. 7 round mag. Smaller size than the Bersa. Do not like the long DA so I rarely shoot it. Never carry it.
Beretta 70s. Oldy but goody. Quality build. Only 8 round mag. Single action only. Have to carry it with out a round in the chamber or cocked and locked. Not doing that! So it stays home.
The Walther PPKS 22 is a nicely built but heavier than the Bersa. 10 round mag. It is also a DA/SA. The DA is 25Lbs Yuck! Heavy and heavy pull. Gets left it home.
The Phoenix Arms HP22. This was my carry gun before I had the Bersa. 10 round mag. Single action only. I did not feel comfortable carrying a round in the chamber. It is small, fits in pocket nicly. sights are better than the Beretta 21A. You need to do mods to disable the redundant safeties. Doing mods, not a good thing if you ever have to use your gun. So I leave it home.
That being said I would carry any of them if I had to.
For me the Bersa wins.
Build - Alloy Frame, Steel Slide
Capacity 10 + 1
Trigger - Best DA/SA, with Decocker
Weight - not the lightest or the heaviest
Size - longest overall, But still small enough for pocket carry
My first pistol was my great grandfather's Beretta 71 22lr. Love it, very reliable. Just can't find another mag for it. Tried a couple after markets from K something but didn't work.
10 yrs in the military and carry either the 21A or the HP22 . Zero problems. Just don't make me shoot you in the face
I have had an olrder Barretta .22lr pistol for years. I have even carried it as a backup on occasion. It has always gone bang when I pulled the trigger. I probably should the replace the main spring. When I was on a range alone (not a really good idea), I would set up some targets between the targets and starting point so I could practice enroute downrange to paste up my rifle targets. It is small and I was surprised at how often I could hit targets at quick point/shoot situations. It was a fun situation. Thanks for the video.
I recently purchased the M&P Shield 380 EZ. It’s now my EDC. A great trigger, light weight and decent capacity. I carry it IWB. It’s not for pocket carry. For range work I use the M&P 22LR Compact. Its the perfect companion to the 380. Physically it’s almost identical in size with much less expensive ammo.
Beretta 71. It worked on those jetliner hijackers.
I would trust my LCP 2 and SW Compact 22lr with quality ammo.
I have a S&W 22 COMPACT it runs like a boss... I love this gun! I fired 2000 rounds and no problems at all... I really trust my 22 compact!
Same here.
Enjoyed your review. The one thing I would stress regardless of what you carry is “Know your weapon!”.
I appreciate your review. I'm very pleased with the M&P 22 Compact. I'm also fond of the Taurus TX22 with its 16 round magazine.
Love shooting that semi auto pistol in 22LR. Its been reliable & such a nice feel overall. Only thing is its Big for a carry weapon. I also have the Ruger SR22 in 22LR its smaller easy to carry & shoots about the same only my magazine only holds 13 rounds with the new follower installed in the magazine. Both of these are really good pistols.
I own the S&W Compact in 22LR and it’s awesome...After 4000 rounds I’ve literally had no issues at all. I run Federal bulk 40 grain and CCI Mini Mags 36 grain at 1260 FPS...
I am a big fan of pocket rockets. I'm greatly appreciating this series of videos. Keep 'em coming!
Thanks for the honest and no bs reviews you do. You and others on You Tube help keep the manufactures on their toes by not turning out junk because I'm sure they watch these reviews too knowing if somethings wrong it's gonna show up here.
My Interarms Walther TPH has performed flawlessly with many types of ammo (including the lowly Remington Golden bullet).
I'll give an A+ for the Taurus PT22, I've owned one for 10 years, I carry it, I practice with it, it's reliable. I've also tried the Beretta, too small grip. I like the larger grip of the Taurus.
Yeah people always shit on the Taurus PT22, but honestly it's a really good gun for the price a lot more reliable than one might think from such a cheap gun. I love mine. It's perfect for conceal carry in my opinion.
another good video! My choice is the .32 acp/.32 Smith and Wesson long. Yeah I realize there is not much industry support for ammo but with those rounds I have a centerfire primer for reliability and the penetration on a .32 is superior to a .22 recoil is not an issue either. Do not overlook the .32s.
Wish availability of 32 was better, but I'm in agreement. The Germans got it right with the PPKs.
Ive been happily carrying my NAA Mini for decades. Revolvers still rule!
I love those little things. I personally don't carry one, but man they are fun to shoot. And they go bang when the need to go bang.
@@memyself898 I no longer own a single semi auto anything. I dislike the positive control being taken away from me. Never a jam or a misfire either.
My wife has a Pheonix Arms 22 as a purse gun. Accurate little piece and so far..very reliable. Not real light but as a purse gun..it works.
The NAA revolver has a purpose and that is as a deep cover handgun , meaning it is a hideout not meant to be found easily or gotten to easily . It could be thought of as a backup to the backup pistol and a lot of officers would carry them as a hideout . The advantage of this mini revolver is it's size , weight and it's ability not to be seen easily . It is extremely well constructed and even has a safety notch to be carried with the hammer down between cartridges . It is best used as a contact weapon where the projectile and the expelled gases work as one and what other handgun could you concealed in warm weather with skimpy clothing .
It seems one thing never mentioned in these videos is a good gunsmith can greatly improve problems with a heavy trigger pull.
Look at the Phoenix Arms 22. Just bought one, put about 2000rds. Into it without a problem. Plus you’ll love the price
As far as I can remember, I’ve had very few failures with .22s. Of course, I only use good quality, American made ammo. I have a Walther P22. It shoots good, no failures and no signs of wear
Thanks for covering this. I bought a 38 special Smith & Wesson a couple of years ago and absolutely hated shooting it. I only shot maybe a dozen rounds through it and sold it back to the store I got it from. The kickback was brutal and it turned me off from pistols or the idea of CC (I live in Chicago and have been held up once and have been in numerous other potentially violent and dangerous situations). I wanted a revolver for perceived reliability and ease of use but found that that was the wrong choice for me. And before any gives me a bunch of grief about being a wimp, I'm a 33 year old, 6'2", 220 lbs guy. I'm just not a huge gun person and haven't had much experience with handguns.
La Trace, did you get a different pistol?
Thanks for the consistent quality content Papa Chris
i have the smith 22 compact and the ruger sr22,, love both of those,,, i carry the ruger a lot with stingers and to me its got a sweet trigger
The Phoenix isn't any bulkier than the 22 snub nose revolvers that you mentioned earlier and in my experience is extremely reliable. The Phoenix is also pretty accurate at distances of 3 to 7 yards. At about $120 the Phoenix is a pretty good option for those that don't have much money to spend.
Had a few issues with FTE and had to rack back the slide. A friends gun that we both bought at same time didn’t have this issue. Also a design issue is it doesn’t rack back the slide open after last shot. This is just a range safety issue and there is a warranty negating work-around if desired.
ammo specific.. but once solved it has worked wonderfully.. mine prefers Remington
Too many safety’s on phoenix any way to bypass
I own or have owned a Ruger LCP 22, Ruger MK IV, Phoenix P22, Beretta bobcat, Taurus PT 22 and a Walther P22. In terms of reliability, the Bobcat was just OK. The Walther (an early version) and Taurus were terrible even after sending them in. The first three on my list have been flawless. All I ever shoot is CCI mini mags and CCI standard velocity. Both work well. Good video
I know that the Phoenix 22 is a budget friendly pistol but in my experience it is very reliable. I only bought it for some cheap range fun and never carry it but have put just under 1200 rounds through it with 4 cleanings and have never had a failure to feed, I have always used aguila standard velocity in it and have never had a failure to fire as of yet either. I know eventually it will have a failure but so far for a $120 gun I have been very impressed. It also has pretty good ergonomics for a small pistol and has a great weight to it. I do hate the mag safety disconnect but this can be done awake with if you don't mind a minor mod to it.
One Phoenix will be reliable and the next will be a turd. That's not what reliability is.
Phx arms hp22 has been more reliable than my browning buck mark or ruger 10/22 in my experience. Way fewer failures. And yes, it’s cheaply made, but it works.
And a Lifetime Warranty. And California Legal too.
Anticipating the 22 mag. i carry for smallest conceal.
I always considered the .22 mag a good idea until I watched Paul Harrel's test. It's not horrible, but the bullets are not made for defense of things larger than a fox. I'd go with a .38spl with target loads if recoil is an issue and .22LR is too small.
@@CandidZulu watch chopping block test/tfb tv test on 9mm vs 38. 38 doesnt do very well for more recoil out of a revolver vs 9mm revolver. But considering 22 mag, no its not the best. But 22 mag is what i carry when its hard to concel a 9mm. Or its backup. Something better than nothing
@@CandidZulu You have to consider with .22 Magnum, ammo selection is very important. If you use light 30gr loads like the V-Max projectiles, in short barrels they do quite well. As do specific short barrel performance loads like Hornady Critical Defense and Speer Gold Dots. In a revolver, something like the Winchester Dyna-Point does well as it doesnt cycle reliably in something like the Kel-Tec PMR-30 or other semi autos.
I quite often will carry an 8 shot .22 Magnum revolver and it's more than adequate for self defense with the proper loads. Out of a rifle, .22 WMR is still something to be reckoned with, much more powerful compared to .22 LR. I can see where some say that the extra cost/recoil isnt worth it in certain size guns. But from personal experience with both hunting and several tests, the .22 WMR vs .22 LR is about the same difference between .32 ACP and .380 ACP. There is a noticeable difference both on paper and on impact with proper loads, using FMJ in typical carry guns for the caliber you dont see a massive difference, but with good expanding ammo in either, you do see a noticeable difference on impact.
Well said. I fail to see any likely incident when the 22mag in my pocket will be insufficient to end the issue. If it is insufficient, it won’t be the caliber of the cartridges.
@@johnnybeanz1296 Statistics would disagree with you to an extent. Generally speaking yes, a .22 WMR will get the job done by all accounts. People dont want to get shot, even by something as small as say .22 Short and etc. However, when you look at the data about various calibers... .22 WMR isnt often viewed favorably mostly because there's so few incidents it gets used. From a 3 inch revolver or from a 4 inch semi auto, it's got about the same ballistics as .380 ACP from a 3 inch barrel, which according to data will serve you just as well as a 9mm, .40 S&W, .45 ACP, and etc.
Downside is, most guys carrying .22 WMR are carrying small snub noses or those little NAA revolvers. That could effect performance and bring it's relative effective scale down some, but as many have said before me. Something is better than nothing and personally I'd rather have something like a Ruger LCR in a snub nose configuration in .22 WMR than .22 LR if only because the differences in penetration alone.
If .22 ammo can be unreliable, you have to go with a revolver in a life and death situation. Period
My expe5ience: I shot thousands of rounds.22LR in Bull's eye competition and a misfire is VERY rare when using good ammo. (CCI) and a good pistol. Perhaps 2 in a thousand? Even good centerfire fires are prone to stovepipes on occasion.
I have a Target Pistol made in 1974 and use -22 RWS (Geco) Ammo. 2 misfires after 2000 Rounds, I wouldn't consider that to be unreliable.
@@elvinator1047 I think people just buy cheap ammo. :/
21a bobcat, walther ppk or sr22 for those who prefer something lighter. Perfect concealed carry rimfire pistols in my humble opinion.
@Jeff Jones Copy that, 21a all the way. Can't beat the sweet DA/SA trigger, second strike capability, pop up barrel, etc. Great little feather light easy to shoot companion. Bulk bought a ton of CCI MM Jacketed ball, and Federal Auto match on a sale. I'd have to say it's sweet music with the Fed Auto Match, but have experienced some feeding issues on the Jacketed CCI. Seems the jacket likes to stick in the round on deck on occasion. Just one light primer in hundreds of rounds on the CCI. Went on the second strike. Just run a mag or three at the end of a session to help keep that rifling clean between cleanings. Not one hiccup with the Federal Auto match. Not alot of experience with the 22lr autos, but I certainly am please with my little Bobcat. Got the big brother 3032 32 acp Tomcat too. Both in Inox. Switch off depending on situation. Often running solo carry lately. Most days I'll have one in my RF pants pocket or moved to someplace handier, and another mag in LF pants pocket. Home runs by Beretta on both in my book
@@andyostertag I had to sell my bobcat a few years ago but will eventually pick up another one. Just now getting a shotgun and rimfire rifle back in the house and should be able to replace my pistol this summer. Have a Blessed Christmas and Holiday season.
@@jeffjones951 you as well. Count your blessings every day. Be well, safe and support the Liberties of the Republic. Good bless America
Well said.. My first one was the S&W 317 and my second model was the 351 PD.. Never had a misfire with either one in 12 years now.. The LCR model I have looked at but no further.. If a person works at it like my 351 PD you will surprise yourself how good you really can get , even though the barrel length is just under 2".. I carry it, works fine.. CCI has Short Barrel ammo loaded with Gold Dot bullets. In my book it's a winner..
Revolver is the way to go loaded with stingers. I never had a dud round with a cci product. Remington ammo is the worst in rimfire with Winchester coming in second. Federal ammuition are also a good choice if cci is not available.
I have a Taurus PLY22 that fits in my top shirt pocket unlike nearly all other pistols.. Reliable, easy to clean, shoots CCI mini mag 40gr with no problems. hard to rack. At 15 feet in a few seconds all 9 rounds go in an 8-inch circle. $200. very happy.
PPQ 22 is the best 22 Walther makes. The newest p22Q is way more reliable than the previous versions of the p22
Can confirm - P22QD with the captured recoil spring... crazy reliable for a 22 pistol
I own a Hi Standard R-101, 9 shot 22lr. This is my go to in home defense gun. Over the years, I have had very few failure to fires with any 22lr.
I own a NAA 22 magnum with a 1.25” barrel. I would challenge anyone carrying a sharp stick against the NAA 22 magnum. Any pistol used for self defense is better than no gun at all. Agreed, some guns are better than others. Every gun has a different ability and purpose. Or are you the guy that saws a 2x4 with a backhoe?
Harmonica Blues I’m getting the Sidewinder 22M/22LR
Awesome little gun.No excuse not to have it on you.
I’m also a big fan of the harmonica.
Pug man here. Plus I splurged and went with smith 351pd and already had the pmr30.
22mag looks good to me. A platoon with ar 15s could take me, but they probably could with just sticks, too.
I got the folding grip 1.63 barrel mag, with LR cylinder. Just bought 2 "black powder" cylinders . That supposedly were advertised as being proofed up to hot smokless powder until the ATF came a calling. Still can keep shooting if there is a run on 22, $40 per cylinder and I think $10 for 250 lead bullets. $ 8 for the loading tool.
I completely agree.... "Any pistol used for self defense is better than no gun at all"..... Soooo if you're going to get one for close quarters, why would you choose a weakarse one? May as well advocate air pistols or hotted up nerf guns? and why "love on" an unreliable weapon???? Are you trying to save 23.4 cents on a round when a drug crazed idiot is coming at you? Foolish thinking, get a real gun for real jobs and save that for bunnies (well at least when it works)
Anthony Spanjich
I usually carry my 12 gage shotgun in my sweater. That’s my first line of defense. After that I go for my 10mm I carry up front for immediate first draw of at ready pistols. What you will only see on me is my service 357 revolver, most reliable, after that are my right back and left hip inside the waste matching SW 2.0. And my NAA 22 mag 5 shot in my pocket, just in case. Not to mention the total of 136 rounds for the toys.
But most important is that I’m at the range twice a week to keep up my competition abilities and daily practicing weapons draw. No loaded weapons during quick draw practice since I do that at home.
Yeah, I like my NAA just as much.
But I am having trouble getting volunteers to hold targets for me while practicing with my 22mag. It seems that everyone I ask is afraid of getting hit. I wonder why. You think you can help me out with my targets?
I heard that Phoenix arms hp22 is an absolute tank with a dedicated fan base
.I wish I bought one new what 3yrs ago? 4yrs ago? When they were 90$ at a booth in every single gun show
Sometimes I watch these videos and think, "Yep. Nothing needs to said. He laid it all out completely". Then, I scroll right on down to the comment section and I JUST CAN'T HELP MYSELF! I have a .22. That Beretta doesn't have an extractor. Nice video. My wife can carry that in her purse. Stand in front of it. Bring enough gun. Thumbs up! I subscribed. I fired a certain pistol once amd didn't like it. I go smaller. I go bigger. Stand in front of it. I carry that! .22 is better than .25. .22 has killed more species than any other caliber. Great video. Stand in front of it...
Sigh... yeah, that pretty much sums it up.
Yep, was thinking the same.
I too have the S&W M&P 22...it has run flawlessly with all brands of ammo. That is an excellent handgun
I bought a full size S&W 22 back in ‘96,runs everything flawlessly! I just purchased a S&W compact today. Yes,I will put it in my carry rotation too.
NAA minis are for grappling. Sighting isn't a problem when you've firmly inserted the gun in an armpit.
I have no problem using the 22 for self-defense kills just as good as any other gun and more accurate
I got a PPK/S .22 back in 2014. Took it straight to the range without cleaning or lubricating. 50rds of CCI Velocitor and 50rds of CCI Stinger. Zero malfunctions. Deliberately left it dirty without cleaning. Back at the range a few weeks later I did the same thing. 100rds of Velocitor and Stinger with no failures. Repeat again. No cleaning. Third trip to the range with a dirty gun it finally had one single failure to feed halfway through a 100rd box of CCI Mini-Mags. I'm pretty satisfied and feel confident with this pistol's reliability. Keep it cleaned and lubed and feed it with "hyper-velocity" premium ammo and it won't fail.
I had a 25 raven back in the 90s that i always kept in my back pocket!!
I have three of them. I had more but, every so often I jam the barrel with concrete and load them up. Then I throw them in the street when I drive through the ghetto.
The mini revolver video and discussion should be interesting. Those little guys take on a pretty niche role that imo is underrated.
Different stroke for different folks I guess. I quite enjoy my Ruger sr22. Got it for my wife, since she wanted something with very little recoil but I have ended up shooting it more often than she has.
With a steel slide & alloy frame, the Thunder 22 isn't "cheap". It may be inexpensive, but it will chew through MiniMags like a fat kid through a bag of Halloween candy, and it'll do so pretty much forever.
"A giant can of ammo!" okay Chris you get a like for that
NAA revolvers are awesome. Aside from being cool, they are very light weight, very concealable, and very loud when fired. Even if you don't hit an attacker, he usually isn't going to stick around once you're firing at him. 5 rounds is amazing for such a small gun. I have a video where I shoot 5 rounds with the NAA revolver from 15 feet away and get a group about an inch, maybe less than an inch. They're good guns.
My favourite .22 for home defense is a 9mm.
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both my HP 22 are wonderful little guns and I carry a Bursa 380 accurate to a T
I have a bersa thunder 22 as long as you run Remington gold bullets or Remington thunderbolts it runs great minus the occasional dud.
S&W M&P 22C is awesome! A little longer than the Shield! I bought one because Cabela's ran out of the Walther P22 they had on sale! I fell in love with the M&P 22C!
a .22lr in the face will bring you instant respect!
I would choose to avoid getting a .22 in the face, thank you.
None at all
Lots of good info in this video. People are gonna disagree but if all you have is a 22, thank God you have it. Better than a cell phone.
I have had a phoenix arms 22 for 3 years carried it for 3 years and have had in the 3 years 2 Ftf period 2 and i shoot this gun all the time . I think YOU might ask yourself the question do you believe in progress ? They are cheap to make because everything is cheaper to make as we learn how to perfect manufacturing. I also carry a taurus G2C and just so we can clear up a few things ahead of time I have been known to carry a CZ and a XD as well so i am not cheaping out i am simply saying sometimes things work just because they work and sometimes like say a sig that is a piece of junk is so regardless of price.
I have the hp22 also what is the best way to carry for you on this gun. And do you run 10+1 when you carry?
Thanks for the video, always enjoy catching up with this channel!! I have the M&P 22 Compact. It is awesome. It has eaten everything I feed it. The only issue is when it was new, it would sometimes not feed the second round of any type of ammo that had a mid case crimp, Or, a very light bullet. Broken in, and mag springs exercised, Just load it up, and let 'er eat!
I have a Walther P22, carry it in my back pocket on the farm....it runs flawlessly just like my Walther 9mm.
Great 22
My Dad had an H&R .22lr revolver. It was the 1st pistol I ever fired, and I loved it. I don't remember having and soft strikes, either with that or the .22lr target rifles I used on the target range. My Dad ran the small bore rifle range for our local "Junior Sportsman's Club", so we were using cheap bulk ammo, and this was back in the 80s. By 12 or 13 years old, I was an NRA "Marksman 1st Class" with he .22lr and hit an average of 20/25 clays on the trap range with a cheapie 12 gauge shotgun.
I'm not a big fan of the M&P pistol line overall, but have owned an M&P .22 compact since it was first released. It's an outstanding .22 semi-auto!
David Giles what don’t you like about the m&p?
I agree. I own an M&P .45 and have owned a gen 2 9mm and the damn things are squeaky and rough. Of course I do shoot them very well and I’m quick at the range with them as well, (I’m convinced someone is playing a joke on me and punching holes in the middle of my targets when I shoot). But the M&P .22 is amazing and I have nothing bad to say about it whatsoever. (I switched to Glock for my competition guns as well as CZ but I guess the M&P’s will work, I just don’t like their “feel” in spite of my ability to shoot them very well.
@@Wyttt95 The fact that it's not a Glock /s.
Project Silver glocks are nothing special.......
@@Wyttt95 I know, hence the "/s".
I had the privilege to review both the 43c and the LCR. Both trustworthy options.
Great video. I really like that you're covering the topics that get automatically shot down without discussion in the concealed carry world. I'd never carry something smaller than a .380 personally, but I told a lot of people when I worked in firearms sales that a .22 is still better than a knife.
I totally agree that a revolver is the way to go for the most part, there's just too much of a risk of a dud with a .22. If you're going to lug around a semi-automatic, at that point why not look at a .380, a .32 or something along those lines?
Again though, I'm really enjoying this series and appreciate you devoting some time to the application of firearms that are "taboo" in the concealed carry discussion. I don't know how many times I've heard people tell me that someone is crazy if they carry less than a 9mm. That's not even getting into the Tactical Toms that will call you a dumbass if you carry anything less than a Glock 19 with an extra mag.
TankerD18 yup, reality is every good guy with a gun is worth 10 bad guys even if they “only” have .22’s. and if they practice with a .22 it’s way better then a .44 magnum they don’t practice with. (.22’s are fun and cheap what’s not to like, other then terminal ballistics?)
It may or may NOT be Better than a knife! It all depends on the circumstances. You can also say that a FIST can be better than a Knife and on and on and on .......
@@stevekatz4372 You're looking a little too far into it at that point.
The smaller the caliber the more important the shot placement. Many people who are lacking in skill or practice go to small rounds due to lack of confidence but in the hands of a skilled shooter they can be quite capable.
My pheonix arms hp22a is very reliable and has only failed to fire once because of cheap ammo. Quality ammo in this gun makes it a great pocket pistol. Many others will say the same. I have a s&w 9mm but I'd rather carry my .22 because I trust it.
Anything faster than a bb has my total attention
I carried both a Beretta 92 & 96 and a Glock 22 for my career in LE and if you want to carry a load on your hip feel free. Do it for 27 years and let me know how it feels. Remember YOU as a CCW holder do NOT have to take ANY enforcement action. You carry for SELF PROTECTION and that of your family and in rare instances......an innocent victim.
Yes! Exactly
Thanks and will you please say it again for those in the back.
great video. I appreciate the honest assessments of the guns. I was looking at the SR22 for a pistol to shoot with my kids. I am glad i went with the MkIV, 22/45 I didn't realize that the safety on the SR22 was backwards. I have never seen that mentioned in a review before.
I recently got a Ruger Mark 4 Tactical 22 and I put long rifle through it that's 50 years old 250 rounds not one misfire.
I had an naa 22lr blowup in my hand. I will never shoot another.... Nuf said👎
I use a beretta mod. 70... many videos here love it... I do to...
Ain't nothing wrong with the N.A.A. (North American Arms) 22LR revolver.
Mine did save my life about 1979 . I still have the knife scar on my side but the Mugger has a serious throat ache .
They still can do the job when needed at close range.
Am curious about all those troublesome reports that must have been made....or were any needed?
The new Federal Punch is a good option if your in the 22lr CCW
When it comes to misfires, or hang fires, it is typically recommended to keep the firearm pointed in a safe direction for at least 30 seconds in order to be sure the round doesn't fire after, or as, you are trying to determine what happened, reloading, etc. There could be some serious complications if a true hang-fire incident occurred using a revolver and you simply pulled the trigger again to advance the cylinder to the next round. That's not to say that serious problems with hang fire cannot be had with semi-autos as well. My point is, that to say you simply pull the trigger again on a double-action revolver, recock a single action revolver, or rack the slide to eject the bad round and continue shooting, is possibly going to have a bad result. That being said, in a self-defense situation, you might have to either risk it, or be killed by an assailant. To my knowledge, and I'm no expert, hangfire problems are much more common with rimfire cartridges. This might be one reason to avoid .22 caliber for self-defense. Another reason I would think twice about a .22 for self-defense is their poor performance when it comes to stopping or killing a larger animal such as a human. Yes, Bobby Kennedy was killed by a single shot from a .22, and I'm sure many others have died from having been shot with a .22. However, I have seen assailants and defenders alike keep functioning for a long time even after being shot with larger rounds, like the .380, 9mm, 10mm, and even larger. Placement makes a lot of difference, but it matters less and less as the caliber of the round increases (with a corresponding energy increase).
I thought sbout getting a .22 as self defense weapon. It is cheap, light and i surely can handle the knockback. But i got some questions before, like the thing u said with stopping a larger animal or a human. Is it possible to like damage a humans leg with like 2-3 shots. I know some survived 2 9mm magazines in a police chase and still ran, but i dont think the cop aimed for the legs. More for the stomach
I purchased some 9 mm at a gun show once. I don't know what country made it, but it did have Arab writing. It was the worst junk ammo I ever bought. Every possible problem one can have with ammo showed up with this junk.
RandomDude Yea but i think they are out of my budget
Bought the Ruger SR22 and a S+W XD compact 9mm. Got into money troubles and sold both for $650.00. I never shot the SR22. I regret getting rid of both. But when hard times hit! You liquidate your arsenal. Now its Covid and Anarchy in the streets. Boy, I wish I had that pair back the S+W XD compact was 13 and 18 rounds and 3 other 18 round mags to go with the weapon. Great case and a flat shooter. Had fire power out the Ass! Oh, Well! I guess my 642 in 38 + P and My Ruger Lc9s 9mm Pro. NO safety! 7 and 9 rd mag's will just have to do! Found a Marlin 60 14 shot 22 lr rifle at Wal-Mart for $163.00. Beggers cant be choosy. Good luck to all! Keep your wits and keep your head down too. Shawn.
Excellent series Chris!! Can't wait for the next one ;-)
My M&P Compact 22 has been totally reliable. Been shooting it for over 2 years.
Just saw this video and I feel like I need to chime in. I own a Ruger SR22 pistol back from the first year of production; serial prefix 360 and the number itself is less than 12k. I've shot the little bugger at every range session for warm-up and cool-off when I was going to shoot any of my carry pistols and have brought it along to fend off roving bands of soda cans when sighting in a rifle or two. I have witnessed my own pistol jam twice in seven years, discounting a few primers with performance anxiety (Only happened with Remington Thunderbolts). One was an odd stovepipe I couldn't figure the reason for and the second was a failure to feed that was my own fault for not seating the magazine well enough. The trigger, while not great by any measure, isn't in the realm that I would call bad. The double action pull is fine. It's as heavy as you can expect from a double action rimfire with zero take-up, stacking or grittiness; just a smooth, if heavy pull all the way back. Single action isn't as pretty. It feels almost like a two-stage trigger, but not in a good way. There's a good bit of take-up on the trigger, but at least my example behaves quite well after that with a clean break. Reset is what I would call "meh". You can feel it for sure, but it's all the way forward to where the single action pull is at rest anyway and you have to take up the slop again. It's there where the trigger fails to impress me.
Not perfect, but not going to effect performance at the end of the day.
The frame mounted safety, well, I just use it as a decocker. Problem solved.
I have carried the pistol in many occasions when I didn't yet own a Ruger LCP and it was the lightest option I had. The threat profile I was expecting pretty much stopped at a grumpy raccoon or a stray dog, an armed attacker wasn't at all likely so a .22lr was perfectly suitable in my opinion.
So, would I recommend the Ruger SR22? Absolutely yes.
Love shooting both my 22LR semi auto pistols - Ruger SR22 & Taurus TX 22.
Ivor Johnson TP-22 was a great little pocket pistol a walther clone. Ruger SR-22 also a nice little pistol
22 ammo has come along way from what it used to be. CCI is pretty dependable. I trust my life with it in the woods with a old school Marlin model 60. I have other guns that's a bigger caliber but I was raised all a man needs us a good 22lr and a good shotgun was all a man needs. As long as u can shoot.
I know this video is 2 years old now so since then the Taurus TX-22 has come out and is a fantastic 16+1 22lr.
It may be to late but just a suggestion. The NAA revolver is very shootable with the large grips they offer, especially the black widow model. Thanks for the great content and honest reviews! Keep up the great job!
Have both. My 21a won’t run standard but runs mini mags flawlessly. Just got the LCR, no problems. Fun little gun.