The Walther PPK Is Not Very Good
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- Опубликовано: 15 июл 2021
- It's pretty. It looks great on the big screen. But compared to more modern pistols, the Walther PPK is a horrible choice for self-defense and concealed carry. It's not even a fun plinker. Unless you're a collector or an avid James Bond enthusiast, just say no to the PPK.
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"I would not carry a gun that has been unchanged since 1931"- 1911 owners laughing hysterically 🤣🤣🤣
Not to mention (oops) the Browning Hi-Power! Or the magnificent Mauser HSc!...................elsullo
@@elsullo2: I love my Hi Power. To me, best gun ever made.
tWo wOrLd wArS
& Jeeps have been in production every year since 1941'...
Guess they suck too?
If it works don't fix it, 🍪brain
My wife gave me a Walther PPK for a graduation from a law enforcement academy. My PPK was made in Germany, not France, Georgia or Arkansas. I've put thousands of rounds through it and have never had a problem. I've carried it for more than 55 years as a back up gun, off duty gun and now that I'm retired, a every day carry gun. I'm happy with it and modern 380ACP ammo, and don't have any plans to replace it. YMMV.
Not to be that guy, but unless your PPK was a prewar or wartime model from ZM, most of it was probably made in France. Speaking from experience, as I have a 1961 PPK-L which falls into that category.
I don't remember exact dates, but following WWII and the end of manufacturing at Zella-Mehlis, all Walther pistol production was done by Manurhin in France. This includes both Manurhin-marked guns, as well as those marked Walther, and *including* the ones specifically marked as Made in W. Germany. There are debates as to exactly how much work was done in France, and how much was done in Germany to meet country-of-origin requirements to merit the W. Germany marking but the prevailing logic is this: Walther produced raw slide forgings in Germany, shipped those to France where Manurhin did all the slide milling operations, then shipped back to Walther in Ulm for proofing, roll marking, polishing, and final finishing/bluing. Unsure whether the same was done for frames as well, or frames were made entirely in France- but they definitely were not made entirely in Germany. Some Walther pistol production moved fully back to Germany in the 60s (maybe?) but only for other pistols, *not* the PP/K/S. Walther did not resume making fully-German PP series pistols in Ulm until the late 70s/early 80s (and they were not as good as the French ones), by which time they could no longer be imported to the US due to 68 GCA, which prompted the later Interarms/Ranger and then S&W guns. Basically this all means that no commercially available postwar PPK in the US has ever been fully German-made: they were all mostly French.
And by the way, these French/German guns are actually considered the best of all PPKs ever made, better even than the "true" all-German prewar ZM guns.
My PPK wasn’t made in France of Belgium and doesn’t say Made in W Germany. It says, “Hergestellt in Deutschland,” or, “Made in Germany.” I wondered about that about a year after I got it and wrote to Walther giving the serial number and the date I bought it in the US. The letter I got back said it was German made but didn’t mention when it was made or how or when it got here. I wondered abut that too but if I can’t believe Walther’s records, doubtful I’d believe anyone else. I was satisfied with their answer more than fifty-five years ago and have no reason to keep checking.
@@skipfromla I love the PPK as well and the PP and have owned both. I carried a PPK as a backup as well as an off duty gun. I was not in uniform so at times I carried it as primary. I would often leave my issued weapon locked in my safe and just carry the PPK. I later purchased a PPK/s but didn't like it as well as the old PPK.
I had a PP in 32 cal. that was purchased in 1968.
Well it’s hard to get a PPK from Germany now so please stop banging on say a PPK/S as manufactured in USA by WALTHER. It’s not a PPK/S made by say S&W, this reviewer isn’t a “shooter”, as witnessed by his complaints, of the it’s weight, then his complaints of its
DA pull -a new USA PPK/S trigger actually works very well, the sights at 7 yd distance are spot on, he does have a point on beaver tail bite.
I keep a PPK for two reasons: slimmer than any revolver for true pocket carry and I have never seen a “modern” design with as many true safety features for loaded chamber carry outside of a holster in a pocket next to family jewels or other organs I do not want harmed.
Funny thing is, there’s this rifle introduced in the year 1947 that hasn’t changed much in the last 70+ years, yet is exceedingly durable and reliable.
based and history pilled
And yet no world powers use it
Anymore…
Obsolete and obsolescent are two different things. Nobody said the ppk ppk/s aren’t a reliable gun. Just that it’s heavy, grips aren’t great, caliber limited, and limited round count in todays market.
@@jeepman19 I plan on getting one to carry. I will say, a revised 9mm Ppk would be baller
so simple a child could use it..... and they do
@@jeepman19 the ppk is heavy because it’s TINY which makes it perfect to actually hit things with when you’re shooting. The weight is perfect.
I have walnut grips on mine there are plenty of options. The only major complaint anyone could possibly have is that it’s 380. The gun is exceptional, it checks every box for a pocket pistol. This guy is a moron.
Glock 42: looks like a garbage toy, has the wrong grip angle
Walther PPK: looks like royalty, been used in wars
Yeah, world war 2….🙄
To be fair it was mostly used to execute pows and slaves
@@justaguywhoplaysfalloutsom1104 well, with one notable exception : "Adolf Hitler commits suicide by swallowing a cyanide capsule and shooting himself in the head." It might have been his Walther PPK doing this job
@@justaguywhoplaysfalloutsom1104 was also used in assassinations and shootouts more than most other guns
Says the keyboard commando...
"Today I would not carry a pistol that has been virtually unchanged since 1931..."
1911 guys: I feel personally attacked
If it ain't broke don't fix it
@@GrosvnerMcaffrey but it is
Oh yeah the Browning Hi Power is such a hunk of junk virtually every recoil operated semi-auto pistol uses the same lockup mechanism. Including the plastic Bloks.
Revolver guys:
Lol, I wonder if Chris considered the fact that his Model 66 is K-frame, which is a virtually unchanged dating back to 1899. Food for thought ;^)
Hey guys...it's okay to buy a gun that you like just because you like it.
Which is why I bought a PPK. I don't carry it because I usually carry a full-sized, double-stack .45, but I have carried it in the past and probably will again. It's a effective, reliable pistol that's easy to conceal.
@@MKahn84 For sure. Outside of work I carry a Glock 19. Normally wouldn't but I don't like the stuff I'm seeing these days. At work I have to be low key so it's an LCP. But love finding a fun gun and buying it just cuz.
I totally agree. I like the PPK well enough and have fired one and found it to be really manageable but wouldn't carry it as a first choice for a self defense piece. Would I carry it if I didn't have something that I liked better for the roll? Hell yes. But ~90 years of development has brought us better choices, imagine that. lol. Interestingly i've never owned an actual PPK but have owned two Makarovs which are based on the PP/K design. One was a FEG PA-63 and the other a Bulgarian Makarov. Both handle better than the PPK/S. My main problem now is that i've realized that I don't have a PP or PPK in my collection and I need to remedy that.
Just bought an Interarms PPK/S 2 days ago. It was pre owned bought in 1984 but was never fired. It came with a presentation case, factory target test sheet, all documents, 2 mags and a small cleaning kit. I also bought a Glock 19 3 weeks ago and shot it a couple of times but I am more excited having bought the mint PPK/S than the Glock. I’ll probably give the Glock to my grandson, a crew chief in the US Air Force, as soon as he turns 21 in 2023.
@@Shane-Singleton Handle better how? I've never shot a Mak
My best argument is that in the moment he showed a Glock next to the PPk you could immediately tell why people prefer the PPk.
Your grandkids aren’t going to inherit your Glock
True story, I bought mine as a senseless addition to the collection. After the 1st range session I liked it so much i immediately got a holster and it served as my primary ccw pistol.
Cool. I enjoy opinions, but they're not going to be at your gun fight.
You might be related to a potato.
What’s CCW?
The Fort Smith PPK/s’ are reliable. It’s a little heavy, but still extremely easy to carry. .380 is underrated. Not my go to, but it does the job. I’ve carried the ppk/s myself on occasion. So long as you’re accurate at self defense distances then it’s a good gun.
Think about it. Other guns are certainly lighter, have a lighter trigger and come in higher calibers. However, the ppk/s is still very easy to carry. It’s reliable. The shooter can be accurate with it with trigger time. Despite the video saying otherwise, the recoil is easy for all but perhaps the most recoil sensitive. Effective caliber. It fits the role so long as you’re good with it.
Same !
I've read a lot of anecdotes of people saying the PPK is the most enjoyable small pistol for them to shoot. If people like it and can shoot it well, it's the right choice for them. Not everyone wants a bore-fest Glock.
The Cheetah is a great alternative. Another great one is the Walther CCP. I've been pleased with that one too.
In .380 the PPK is downright unpleasant to shoot with its obnoxious recoil
Don't be jealous of Glock. Just because its clean design leads to a timeless look, and simplicity of function leads to reliability and a minimal amount of parts, doesn't make it a pistol to hate. Just buy one, we can all tell you want one.
@@5jjt I do like Glocks, I don't hate them. I think they look cool. I just was making a case for someone who might want the classy and (in my opinion) better looking PPK over the utilitarian Glock, even with PPKs being very impractical in comparison.
but .380 and low round count is dumb af for CCW
legendary weapon. still one of the most stylish handguns on earth, despite its age.
What age? New guns are plastic they will age faster.
My first choice of handgun
Best looking auto pistol ever made
The Walther ppk is something you buy because you want it not because you need it.
no sale skippy
Way to go. You just rained on my parade. Next thing you’ll be telling me, my martini should be stirred and not shaken! 😂
😅😅😅
Old school stuff isn't as complicated as newer day stuff. Parts are simple and easy to fix and understand versus the new stuff . Pros and Cons to everything.
The ice melts faster when shaken, so that was Bond’s way of watering down his drinks
@ Well it sure easier finding a Glock, that should tell you something
@@SlingSlangSkrrt. Most C&R designs are far more complicated than modern designs.
Next you'll tell us that Bond's Asten-Martin isn't a practical car either.
Lol you make a really good point
And a suit is not practical for hand-to-hand fighting.
That's his batmobile
*Aston-Martin
@@Leopold3131 Unless the lining is "tactical." :)
Bought the Walther PPK 380 with the walnut grips just as a show piece to add to my collection, it has quickly become one of my more reliable pistols and I got a holster for it because it’s my main carry. Absolute love this gun.
What kinda holster
This episode should be called “I Don’t Like This Gun Because It Bit Me”. 😢
Ikr. Imagine telling somebody a gun is absolutely horrid and you should never carry it because it was designed in 1931 and hurt after 100 rounds. When it comes down too it when your in the fight for your life I don’t think you’ll care about a little nick on your finger
@@outdoorsurvival2228 it's not very encouraging to keep up your practice sessions if they're genuinely unpleasant experiences
@@anthonyhayes1267 true
Lol when he brought up a certain “Womanizing spy” I about fell over is he jealous of all the fake poon he gets lol
I finally shot it today, after seeing about 100 videos of ppk. IT HURT. I have mid sized hands but this gun hurt me like a mamajama. I didn’t bleed that much but after 20 rounds it started to hurt. After 50 rounds it left marks on the web of my hand. After 100, I ran to cvs next door to get bandages. Overall very nice trigger, sexy shape, bunch of history. But it hurt.
Also, while you're correct that straight blowback pistols have heavy recoil, they have an absolutely excellent track record for reliability.
Just bear in mind the PPK likes to be both clean and well lubricated - my initial few boxes of ammo had an occasional feed issue due to insufficient lube.
But the ppk I rented had just as much if not more recoil with range ammo than a 1911 with defensive loads… thats insane
And are inherently more accurate due to the barrel being fixed.
I think the recoil is fine on my ppk and i put +p in mine. With any firearm being smaller (concealed carry types) you will run into recoil issues specifically.
@@valkyri9245 what ammo were you using? I havent had feed issues with mine. Any steel on steel should be well lubricated and these older firearms have a lot of steel on steel.
To whom it may concern, James Bond definitely carried a Beretta in the first books.
And in .25acp, iirc
It was actually a fan letter that persuaded him to change to the walther.
And he kept a .38 snubby under his pillow.
@Ben Woodcock Casino Royale says "a very flat .25 Beretta with a skeleton grip" in chapter 8. The 418 would generally fit the description
Casino Royale says ".38 Colt Police Positive with the sawn barrel" in chapter 1.
Ironically, and surprisingly, the comments in this thread have made me consider a PPK, when I never had before.
Yeah, this guy is nuts tbh
me too
"I don't like this gun because I hold it wrong"
Nah, it just sucks.
Nah, it just sucks
“1911 fans are gullible and will buy anything”
I feel personally attacked
No kidding! I was like wow, how rude!
I'm a huge 1911 fan but i don't carry one. I think you could argue that they're less obsolete than the ppk though. Depending on situation.
I actually laughed out loud when he said that even though I love 1911's. Truth be told the only ones who get triggered and upset have no sense of humor.
@@JohnSmith-td3vq when say "how rude" it must be said in the voice of jar jar binks from the Star Wars 1.
No hidden meaning just a funny voice that makes people laugh. Well, me anyway.
Hahaha I have a 1911, it was my second purchase but I have alot of different pistols, he's just a fan boy of a different type and likes to dig
I would love to have a brand new car that was designed in 1931.
yes this kid is full of crap.
That'd be terrible in the real world in every way.
So restore one, plenty of people own restored classics from that era but very few if any daily drive them.
Yes, to keep it in the garage or take it for a lap. For everything else, that's a bad idea. Doesn't break good, you have no A/C, no power window, no headrest, no shoulder belt, no ABS, no disk brakes, no airbags, and in the case of a crash, it's a coffin on wheels. His point exactly. To fool around it's fun, of course. Everything else? Huge NOPE.
Why not? Cars/ everything was better built and more reliable back in the day.
Loled when you pulled out the Glock.
Imagine buying a $400 handgun just to inject another $800 to make it viable. Lmfao
So I guess my 1911 is obsolete since it hasn't changed! I own a PPK and have put over 5,000 rounds through it and have zero complaints
You find 8 oz. of wieght and the horrendous recoil of a .380 objectionable ? When are you going to start on your "man bun" ?
i think he was saying that the recoil was horrendous in terms of all .380s of that size. meaning: "of all the .380s of that size, the recoil of the ppk is horrendous"
i dont think the man buns even understand what i just said lol.
@@americansuper-soldierjadav7234 it's not that bad recoil wise tbh and that's coming from someone who is barely 130lb with a skinny frame. I feel like people say this about the ppk and ppk copies because they can't find legit reason to dislike it. Almost everyone i've seen that hates/dislike the gun always blames the recoil and push it as a fact instead of a personal opinion
@@Shadow-yd5ix lmfao
yes but relative to the weight and relative to other guns, it ought to be less.
none of you understand what he is saying.
@@americansuper-soldierjadav7234 the ppk is blowback it's going to have more recoil than a locked breech pistol like the glock 42. If anyone doesn't understand stuff it's him for not understanding that the different actions will have different felt recoil
@@Shadow-yd5ix direct that towards the OP
You know what gun is good for self defense ? The gun you have on you , that you practice with , and are proficient with . Model is irrelevant !
Don’t put spaces before punctuation marks.
@@ironmatic1 Make me ! ! !
@@ironmatic1 unless it's an unreliable piece of shit that'll jam on you 6 times outa 10.
@@ironmatic1 Don`t should not be used in a sentence unless it is indicated as dialogue, for instance "don't be semantic" he said. The correct way to use this in a written sentence would be, Do not.
@@drno4837 This is nonsense and I'm not (I-am-not) even a native English speaker.. 😂
Hasn't been changed because they got it right the first time 😊
I had a ppks it was accurate at 50 yards
Easy to shoot
Fits in your pocket easily
I used hollow point ammo never had a problem
I loved how accurate it was
I don’t see how 007 missed so many times with such an accurate pistol
Shot one today. It performed beautifully. It's also very small, so is ideal for concealed carry. Another cool thing is how easy it os to take apart for cleaning.
Did you experience any hard beaver bite while shooting?
@@jasonbourne3745 I've never had that problem. I suppose it might be an issue if you have bigger hands, but I keep mine where they're supposed to be and no issues.
If it’s a good design who cares if it’s almost 100 years old. I’m an advocate of the 1911
If it ain't broke don't fix it
First thing I thought when he said "I wouldn't carry a gun that hasn't been updated since 1931."
It accompanied my grandpa, it accompanied my old man, it accompanies me, and it will accompany my boys long after I’m gone
@@GrosvnerMcaffrey Oh, but its been fixed. Many times over even.
10:10 :^)
Never had "slide bite" from a Walther PPK/s which I was shooting 35 years ago... just grip the pistol as it was designed to be held, i.e. if you are having "slide bite" you are probably doing something strange with your grip
Some people never have the "bite" I have but still love the PP series.
Amen, these people don't know how to grip the pistol.
Chris: "Today, I would not carry a pistol that has been virtually unchanged since 1931." Thanks! Based on that rationale, I won't be "gullibe" and buy a 1911, LOL.
The difference between the PPK and the 1911 is that the 1911 has been updated over those 100 years, unlike the PPK which is firmly stuck in the 30s.
Try it in .32. It’s a very comfortable and accurate gun to shoot. I loved my .32 PPK.
I would definitely prefer it in .32. I'm not a fan of .380, but .32 has its place, and I think that place is in a PPK
They no longer make it in .32, sadly.Makes me want to get a Colt 1903.
@@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz Not new but you can still buy a used 7.65mm version.
@@paulalbares643 If you can find one for under $3k I'd love to know where
I have a 1956 in 32acp. By far my most used CC pistol.
First off, I really do enjoy this channel. Lots of great information. But on this review I have to disagree completely. I own an Interarms Walther PPK/s, C. 1978-80, and it is one of the sweetest shooting firearms I own. I have never had slide bite, (I'm 6"1' 205 lbs with medium size hands) nor are there any sharp edges anywhere on this gun. It's extremely accurate and dependable and it does make a viable carry option. You also miss the historical value of this firearm. Hitler shot himself with a PPK. To tell someone that a Walther PPK is a "horrible "choice is in my opinion, a purely subjective statement, and misleading.
It also appears you have a disdain for 1911's, so it should come as no surprise that I own several, one being a colt 1911 .45 ACP. Can you think of two handguns with the longevity of a Walther or 1911? Between the two of them over 170 years of service. As I started out I do enjoy this channel and will continue to watch, I just couldn't let what I consider a "horrible" review go unanswered.
John, I also have a PPK/s in .380 from the same era as yours. I thought your comments were spot on.
Period.
Yes, Hitler committed suicide with a Walther PPK (and some potassium cyanide) that was chambered for 7.65MM (32ACP).
i've not experienced slide bite but i have experienced some kind of damage to my skin from the tang, mine is made in fort smith by walther arms inc, so they may be different guns, it's also a new gun not an older gun. there is a sharp-ish edge on the tang where the rounded back meets the flat face. that's about the only thing that could be called a sharp edge but i think it's what is digging and grating when firing and causing the scrapes on my hand. of course it's also my first gun and i was clearly holding it wrong (one advantage of the scrapes, i can see how i was holding it by where the tang was)
but, i like it. it's a nice gun, i've compared it to two other guns a friend of mine has: a 9mm barretta and a 387 special from a magnum revolver, i couldn't see any difference in recoil (i didn't try the magnum version though...so)
I've never heard of a 378 special. Possibly you mean a 38 special from a 357 Magnum revolver. Both 38 Special and 357 Magnum bullets have a base diameter of .357". You can shoot 38 Special cartridges from a 357 Magnum revolver but you can't shoot a 357 Magnum from a 38 special revolver. The 357 Magnum cartridge has a longer over all length than the 38 special cartridge. If the 38 Special revolver is a quality item and in good shape, while you can load 357 Magnum cartridges into its cylinder but you won't be able to close it due to them being too long.
The "sharp edge" you refer to is the bottom outside of the slide which isn't really sharp. People who grip a semi auto with their fingers or thumb against the slide stand a very good chance of getting cut or "slide bit". It's not sharp but it's moving fast and the bottom edge of about any slide is sharp enough to do some damage due to how fast it's moving. If there was a sharp edge on any of my semi autos, I'd be investing in the companies who make bandages. I've never had a cut on any part of any gun handling their parts or shooting them.
If you like the gun you have better than any other gun you've shot, that's all that matters. Don't take too seriously the people who will tell you, "Naw. It's garbage. What you need is [insert guns name here]."
"I would not carry a gun that has been unchanged since 1931"... meanwhile the M2 machine gun laughs in staccato bursts.
My first experience with a Walther was firing a friends war trophy. It fit my hand perfectly and hit where I pointed it. I purchased one at a gun show shortly afterward with the same results. The only drawback was/is the availability of 32 ammunition. Even though I reload 32 cartridges, it limited my plinking . Moving up to the 380 PPK/S was good for me. It tolerates different manufacturers of 380 ammo very well and the “heft” of the pistol gives it a feel of control even though it’s a more powerful round. So if your small or don’t have gorilla hands you might give it a try. Every person should try multiple types to find the firearm that is overall comfortable for you.
The only auto loading pistol i ever owned that never jammed and is very accurate.
You must buy a lot of Taurus guns
He probably bought a couple Glocks.
Pfft, glocks are the Honda Civics of the gun world.
Just as efficient, reliable, cheap, and ugly too.
@@natjonestower3035 this is a tool. Beauty is subjective and not really important.
GLOCK's are great if you love muzzle jump and crappy follow up shots. I have shot both a glock and a S&W both in 9mm and close to the same size and the glock jumps like crazy in my hands.
More like Toyota Corolla
@@rickhunter6513 Ditto
Chris, everything you say makes perfect sense. That doesn't stop me from owning, and carrying a PPK/S. I just plain like them. Good enough reason for me. Keep up the good work. Enjoy your channel.
I must admit I was pretty surprised to hear you recommend the Glock 42 since it's a Striker Fired single action only with no safety especially for a beginner
Hey come one, 1911 and snubbie guys need to stick together.
feelings mutual, chris.
Just a heads up about the RUclips gods....I've had to resubscribe to your channel twice in less than 24 hours.
@@FuzzyBrains555 For fucks sake... Same here, just had to re-subscribe again!
This is some bullshit.
@@FuzzyBrains555 ugh it's really annoying that they keep on doing that
@@FuzzyBrains555 thank you for saying something. I also just had to re-subscribe. Wtf!
Hi guys! Would a Bersa Thunder .380 be better? 😬😬😬
Here is my take. The PPK/PPK/S series are like the 1911 and BHP’s. Are they older designs ? Yep. Do they still work as advertised . Yep. I don’t discount a 1911 or a BHP simply because its older and doesn’t have glock like features. Mister Lucky Gunner shoots a modified .357 revolver (Previous videos). Surely a man who retro carries a 6 shot revolver could cut a 7 shot auto-loader a little slack ? If you like it, carry it. Lucky Gunner does.
1931?! There’s a hunk of shit that was made in 1911 that a lot of people are still clinging to today! Lol
I’ve owned my PPK/S for about 20 years, it’s been a very reliable EDC. But it did take me a little while to figure out how to avoid the slide bite. This is not the platform for anyone who is just learning how to shoot, but for a experienced shooter with small hands, the PPK/s could fit their needs.
By holding the gun a little bit lower?
PPK also comes in 22lr which is great for beginners. I love the one I bought haven't had any issues or complaints.
Juan the only ammunition that mine will not feed is the Winchester JHP’s . Any other type of ammunition it just eats it up and spite’s out the brass .
I owned both the new S&W version and the Interarms PPK/S. I have huge hands. I never encountered slide bite or hammer bite from the Interarms version, but I did encounter slide bite from the newer S&W version. It has EVERYTHING to do with the arbitrary changes in both design and manufacturing made by lesser men imo.
You don't need small hands to hold an old single stack right, just a grip style that is period-appropriate to the gun. Lucky over there didn't understand that for some reason.
I still love my solid steel PPK over any gun with plastic frame.
In .32 it’s still a very viable option, albeit heavier than some of the competition. Unfortunately, they’re not making them in .32.
I had 2 of these before and both jammed terribly having to send them back and eventually trading one off and selling the other. I was told by the local gun smith that the one's I had were not German made stating the jams are flaws with the non-German products. Have you experienced the same or was I purchases outliers ? Thanks
"I would never carry a pistol that's been virtually unchanged since 1931",
1911 Fudds have entered the chat
How about the colt 1873 bluntline fudds?
10:20
To be somewhat fair, the 1911 actually *has* changed since 1911. The PPK not so much.
@@bygodfreeman Dead fudds. What is this the 1870s?
@@kuuryotwo5153 Though to be fairer, the M1911A1 is still older than the PPK.
Walther should just start making it in .32 again, the caliber almost all the old ones were chambered for. Mind boggling they haven’t figured this out.
I once met a big guy (picked me up hitching) who had a bunch of scars on his neck. Being an 18 year-old with little judgement, I asked where he'd gotten the scars. He told me he was in a barfight with a guy who shot him 5 times in the neck with a .32, and then he strangled the guy to death.
I made a note to self: Never rely on a .32.
@@TheRealDrJoey Ha Ha Ha Ha good story!!!!
Is that little gun actually too much for you people? That's ridiculous.
@@majorpwner241 Could you rephrase that so it makes some kind of sense?
@@TheRealDrJoey neat story. I'll say here what I say any time someone gives me shit for carrying a backup .22 pocket gun: " go stand at the end of the range, and let's see how small these rounds really are. " if you're not willing to do that, then I feel pretty good about my chances
The PPK sounds like the Ricardo Montalban of pistols..."It's better to look good than to feel good."
I think you overlook that fact that not everyone has the same hands or the same needs. I have a friend that originally bought a Ruger LCP based on all the glowing reviews it received and absolutely hated it. He constantly hit his thumb with his finger when trying to fire it, resulting in the gun not firing when it needed to. This was because the trigger was too long a pull and the shape of his hands didn't work with the pistol. He also tried that Glock. He hated the trigger, hated the sights, hated the grip, and it did not shoot well for him. He tried a PPK and fell in love with it. It fit his hands, he shoots it VERY accurately, and has no problems with it. It's now his go-to carry gun. James Bond had nothing to do with it. I would say the PPK is not horrible for him. YMMV.
It was also made in .25 ACP for a while. I currently own a PPK and a PPK/s. The PPK is my daughter''s first choice for concealed carry, and bought the PPK/s after she "appropriated" the PPK. Both fit nicely and hide in, yes, a James Bond shoulder holster. Neither have ever failed to fire, feed, or function correctly, and both are more accurate than I expected from such small pistols. I own 30 other various handguns, and if I didn''t trust the PPK, there is no way my precious daughter would carry one.
1) Neither has ever misfired.
2) Neither has ever failed to feed.
3) They both eat anything close to SAAMI ammo I put in the magazine.
4) I absolutely DETEST Glock triggers. And their lack of safety. And the obnoxious cult-of-personality fools who sleep with the damned things. And the horrendous aesthetics. And . . . ah, hell, I could go on for half an hour. Just leave it at I don't ever plan to have a Glock.
5) 24 ounces is not heavy - in point of fact, it gives me a comforting feel of safety and reliability. 8 ounces is all it takes to turn your head?
6) I own and fire a snub .41 magnum with an aluminum frame. NO .380 has noticeable recoil after a dozen or so of those nasties.
7) If you don't like the layout of the safety and mag release, practice more.
8) Ammo is available in .380 that just NAIL the FBI ammo tests. Since neither from Lucky Gunner, I won't advertise on your channel, but rest assured I have confidence in my carry ammo.
I carry mine, and, again, it is comforting to have confidence in my little friend. I'll do me, you do you.
Good channel, BTW.
Please share your .380 carry ammo!!
So you’re behaving like Chris, but just in another direction.
Well said sir, well said.
Well said friend. I also detest and loathe Glock. At least with the Walther you can club somebody over the head when you run out of ammo. Try clubbing somebody with a rubber Glock, and it would be like trying to whack somebody in the head with a racket ball. All my experiences with Walther have been stellar. This guy is just a cholo.
Glocks do have safeties. It’s called “don’t be a dip shit”
It all depends on what you trained on. When I was in the Marines, I qualified with the 1911. I carried it everyday in Beirut and cleaned it nightly. I know how to carry it safely and operate it efficiently. It’s still the most accurate of all my pistols. That being said, I would never recommend it to a newcomer. There are much better choices today. I also have owned a PPK/S since the 1980’s and have learned to work around its negatives. I still love how easy it is to break down and operate. I am also very accurate with it. Again, I would not recommend it to newcomers but I’m not changing.
What would you recommend in its place that is also easy to break down for cleaning and easy to operate?
Thank you in advance.
And thank you for your service.
@@owenmccord5078 Take a look at the new Glock in .380. Super easy to break down and clean.
@@Medevicerep
Thanks for the tip!
@@Medevicerep in the video he recommended the .42 glock
@@KienThucDoDay Excellent choice. As with any Glock, one must carry it in a holster that protects the trigger guard.
No matter how much dirt you throw at it, it will still be a gem.
Ive had my PPK/S for 30 years. Small feed issues in the beginning getting worse now. Maybe the newer ammo? Always use FMJ so far. Any suggestions greatly appreciated.
My Interarms is a stupid accurate gun. It's never bit me and I have big hands. It's one of my favorite guns to shoot. I really don't get everyone's complaints about it. The ergonomics are great for me, It's a natural grip. The felt recoil is there but very manageable. Maybe I'd like a beretta or cz in 380 better but I believe those are bigger guns
Same. I've never had slide bite from mine, and I love the ergonomics. And the recoil isn't bad at all. In fact, I'd suggest that anyone who can't handle the recoil from a PPK should maybe stick with their .22.
I carry a cz83 in 9mak. Barrel definitely longer, I would say 4in. However is feels like a small gun.
Not giving up my ppk/s interarms OR my Beretta 84. Only advantage to the 84 is 13 round mags.Wish i still had my ppk. Some of todays people just dont get it . Glocks are just UGLY.
+1 on the accuracy of the PPK. It surprises me every time. It is far more accurate than you would think for a gun that small.
I think part of the reason it's as accurate as it is has to do with the fact that the barrel doesn't move, unlike most semi-automatic pistols. It's a really cool design.
The new revamped Walther PPKs are just fine. They gave the pistol a modern internal update, among other things. Haven’t had any issues 500 rounds in. Which is amazing if you have ever shot previous versions of this pistol. This pistol is my regular summer & deep conceal. You can finally carry the new revamps with confidence. It is just fine unless… you have to have a pistol you know you are literally going to war in. That being said, I would never conceal carry the old PP/PPKsThis baby is sexy & every gun I have ever pulled on people, they all backed off. Nothing to worry about unless you are paranoid. The awesome thing about Walther, they do lifetime warranties on their products, got issues? Just send it in, confidences & quality mate
I've ran 250 rounds through my new PPK and I've had one stove pipe. But it was within the first 25 rounds during that break-in period. Since that one stove pipe it has never jammed. I only carry it with FMJ though.
The G42 is nicer to shoot, but I prefer to carry the PPK as the heavy DA trigger pull and external hammer you ride with your thumb when holstering/unholstering it vastly reduces the chances of an AD. I also prefer the mag release that is near impossible to accidentally activate. It is a vastly better impact weapon than any polymer frame pistol, while the extra weight (about the same as the S&W M60) helps keep it in a holster and allows me to feel it as a walk so I don't keep patting it to see if it's still there. It just needs to have the offending sharp edges removed by a gunsmith if you don't want to use gloves when doing a lot of shooting at a gun range.
As a guy who actually pulled a gun in a fight once I second your opinion on DA/SA hammer guns. The heavy trigger on that Taurus GX4 actually saved someone’s life and kept me from 3 to 7 years in prison. So I’m always going to lean towards a heavy trigger cause it will keep you from doing something you’ll regret. Now I’ve still got 9 months till my probation is over and another 4 to 8 months after that to get the arrest expunged before I can even think about buying a gun and getting my permit back but I’ll definitely be giving the PPK some thought because I’ve still got 13 to 18 months to think about it
There are easily 50,000+ Walther PPKs from the 1930s that still function today almost exactly as they did 90 years ago, there actually might be fewer gen 1 Glocks in that condition that are 30+ years old.
cause the glocks got used.
@@Hazztech WAY MORE than the PPKs.
After hearing this guy rundown One of the most iconic guns in history I have come to the conclusion that he doesn't know shit. I retired as a 30 year Patrol sergeant with a sheriffs department and I have carried a Walther PPK/S for years. One of the best guns I have ever owned. I also have the Walther P99/AS which I love and I won't part with either one. He is just another brainwashed Glock fanboy.
oooooh a 30 year patrol sergeant. impressive 🙄 30 years and still knows nothing. Now that is impressive. And still won't learn a damn thing in his next 30 years.
Totally agree with the way you slammed this soy boy wannabe.
When someone says “ you don’t know shit “ , may be time to reevaluate your position.
terrible gun. sorry i ever bought one.
so, youve never gotten the 'beaver tail bloody hand'? never?
really?
Sat down to watch this video after carrying my PPK all day long, lol. But, I got mine for all the right reasons, in that I knew beforehand it wasn't the most practical thing on the market. I just like it, is all! I already have a Ruger LCP, for when I really need something small to carry. The PPK may be heavy, but it can still fit in my pocket inside a Barsony pocket holster. Reliability is 100% too.
I'll also add that mine has never bit me, and I personally like the ergonomics of it. It points naturally for me; the sights line up just from muscle memory.
If you can aim it well when stressed it’s good. Most of us may disagree but really you won’t ever need it, and if you do just having it will be waaaaaay better then a great gun left at home. (The cool factor may actually create carry compliance so that alone may make it better the a G36 or G19).
For an all-metal 380 to carry all day, I much rather carry a P-238. Far more comfortable to shoot. Lucky gunner is right, PPK is a fine pistol for collecting and fondling.
@@BertieW0oster nothing is 100% reliable but, if everything was as reliable as a Walther PPK, that would be great.
I carried a Polish Radom P64 for years, I just bought it because it was cheap and I liked it. It's practically identical to the PPK, but it's chambered in 9x18mm Soviet.
I recently got a Walther PPKs and my only 2 problems is the very very stiff 20ib recoil spring from factory, I ended up getting a 17ib spring that made it function more smooth and also the recoil is very tough on your hand and I had bruise marks after 100 rounds. But it’s been an absolute joy to shoot. PPK teaches you so much, like how to appreciate the lack of recoil on modern guns, it teaches you to control recoil and shows the true power of .380 round, it’s very quality as well. I have to wear gloves to shoot it to avoid bruises from recoil, but loading each round into a WW2 design mag and firearm is so much joy. It’s a shooting experience. Its a bit tougher to shoot accurately but practice with PPK makes me that much better with regular boring guns like Glocks. I highly recommend this as a range gun for practice and appreciation of history and where firearms came from, I mean… this gun ended WW2 with a single shot… need I say more :)
I so appreciate your reviewers
You r so honest particularly watching other channels where they love everything.
Thank u for your in-depth and honest reviews u saved me a lot of $$ and aggravation.
Look, the truth is that James Bond HATED the PPK. M kept chastising him for carrying the Beretta in .25.
When the question arises about James Bond’s favorite gun, I usually like to remind folks that it was the Beretta.
Hard to grab tang with an artillery piece.
Bond didn’t actually hate the PPK. I want to simply says that he’s used to the Beretta and likes working with it. This is directly from the book doctor know when he gets the PPK “ I don’t agree. I use the .25 greater for 15 years. Never had a stoppage and I haven’t messed with it yet. Not a bad record for a gun. It just happens that I’m used to it and I can pointed straight. I’ve used bigger guns when I’ve had to the .45 colt with a long barrel for instance. But for close-up work and concealment I like the Beretta” when Kew actually recommends PPK’s and Bond’s replies “it’s a good gun sir. A bit more bulky than the Beretta” 007 never once indicates that he hates the PPK and M never chastise him for carrying the Beretta.
@@warrenrhinerson6373 ruclips.net/video/qYMUgkD0ttk/видео.html
@@Zundfolge this is the film adaptation, which isn’t very accurate to how the scene was actually written by Fleming. They also aren’t using the beretta Fleming chose for Bond and there’s still no indication Bond hates the PPK
Next you're going to tell me I should get a quartz Timex rather than a old fashion mechanical Rolex. ; )
Again that depends on the intended use. If you’re looking for something pretty with a lot of provenance “ooh that guys wears a Rolex, he must be xyz” and bling factor, you go Rolex. If you want something cost effective, accurate, low-maintenance, reliable and that just tells the time, you go Timex.
You don’t own an old mechanical Rolex
Whenever I shoot my PPK/s, I wear a classic Oyster Perpetual Date in stainless. I like old mechanical things.
@@newengland8126 I’d personally go with an Omega Seamaster, for that Bond vibe.
The PPK/S was my first pistol. Since then I've cycled between the P99C, Beretta 85, Beretta 92/96, a full size 1911, and have come full circle back to the more traditional PPK in 380. Just bought it last week, actually.
Having carried a polymer pistol (P99C) for maanny years, I have to say that I prefer my Beretta 85 and PPK much much more.
Firstly, yes polymer pistols are lighter, but they have more recoil. In particular, they have a specific type of recoil called "pop-up", which means they're top heavy -- there's not though weight in the handle to offset the rise of the barrel.
As someone who activity trains and shoots these side by side, it was noticable enough for me to switch back to an all steel gun.
I like my Beretta 85 over my PPK for the better sights, but my PPK is more compact, and realistically you should learn how to shoot from your natural grip anyway, so you are equally reliable in either scenario. Chances are you're not going to have time to aim -- and even if you do your nerves are going to be so frazzled that you'll likely screw it up anyway.
The only gun that I ever sold in my life was an Interarm PPK in the 1980's. I sold it because it was a jamomatic. Now I regret selling it. Years later, I bought both the Smith & Wesson-made PPK (in blue) and PPK/s (in stainless) as consolation, but they are different than the original. They have the extra-long beaver tail that stick out like an ugly butt that totally destroyed the sexy lines of the original. Your assessment of the gun is absolutely correct. The recoil is horrible! It hurts my hand to shoot it but oh it is so sexy and I still regret selling mine.
I have been carrying a PPKS for 40 years and never had an issue. Yes it is a bit heavy but look at the size of the weapon. It is not a micro pocket gun and the right holster fixes that!! When I first got it I was getting the slide issues on my hand but solved this by lightly filing off the corners. Sometimes I think when you do any reporting (and I watch many) you have the attitude ahead of time that it will not work and then try to prove you are right. Just sayin''!
There is a significant number of firearms that you can conceal carry that would do a much better job than this relic. That being said any gun is better than no gun.
Yea, Since I am an old relic I guess I can carry one. I do have a Taurus Spectrum too but I am looking into the new LCP Max, but I do not like that trigger ""safety"". I know two people that have shot themselves re-holstering because something caught on the "safety" trigger on Glocks and discharged the weapon.
Anything that goes Bang reliably is better than a pointy stick or empty hand, but seems like "Lucky" has a definite bias. :(
I never gad an issue woth biting. I also dont hold super high on pistols.
@@azranger8408 Easily avoidable if you watch when reholstrteing and clearing your garmet. Don't blame the safety.. With that said the P365 is a much better option than this gun. Night sights, 10/12 capacity, lightweight, stippled grip, low recoil, and a lot of aftermarket accessories. You can even get 2 more rounds in the mag and it's still smaller than the glock 43.
If the msrp is right in the video it's also a lot cheaper.
Sir Sean just rolled over in his grave
Actually, I believe that I read somewhere that he was an anti-gunner, but generally kept his mouth shut about it.
RIP OG Bond
Jon pall!
@@Je3perscre3pers Forever and always the best Bond!
"I would not carry a gun that has been unchanged since 1931", this guy has probably not shoot a Luger from this time 😉
I owned 2 in .380. They are not ideal carry weapons today. Will they work? Of course. Are there better choices? Without question.
My Walther PPK has broken twice and constantly misfires. I hope nobody chooses it for self defense.
But would you recomend it for blasting pop cans?
@@bygodfreeman anything will work for that, you could pay less and not punish your hand with another choice.
@@bygodfreeman , as long as you're not blasting more than a few -- otherwise, the gun will tear up your hand.
I carried one in my back pocket for years because it was reliable and really easy to shoot.
Which is hilarious because my father was issued one back in the 1970's for personal protection.
You are right, the Walther PPK does have a little historical significance. It was the carry gun of all the top German leaders in WW2. It was also the side arm of Luftwaffe pilots, to mention one branch. It is the father of all modern DA/SA pistols, including the Beretta M9 that replaced the Colt 1911 as the US Army side arm.
The heavy DA trigger is a safety feature designed to avoid shooting yourself when you holster the gun, unlike Glock pistols. In addition to the heavy DA pull, you can also keep the hammer down with your thumb when holstering the gun.
Furthermore, it can be safely carried with a round in the chamber and in principle get cocked and fired using only one hand, unlike a Glock or any striker fired pistol. Try using both hands to get a gun ready to fire in a fight or when an animal is bitting one of your arms, or if one of your hands is hurt, for that matter.
The SA trigger pull is light, all you need to do is cock the hammer with your thumb. Also, steel guns ARE more durable than plastic guns. Try running over a plastic pistol with a car, or see what you find of a plastic pistol after it has been heated. Plastic will get brittle with time. A plastic pistol is a modern tool and will not last long enough so that your grandkids can use it.
There is a reason why this gun is still so popular, and it's not 007. While it is true that under range conditions a Glock is a better pistol, a self defense pistol should work well not only at the range.
By the way, this is the gun that ended WW2, as it is the gun that Hitler used to kill himself, so it does have some historical significance.
I put plastic guns in a toaster over at 350° to mold holsters with no issues. How hot do you plan on getting your sidearm?
An all steel gun would technically survive a fire.
Don't get me wrong, I do have a bunch of plastic guns - Glocks 17, 19, 20, 45; CZ P 10F, P 07; Sig M-17, P 320 X Compact. These are all great guns. But I still think the pocket size DA/SA PPK makes a great backup gun, just like the Makarov or the small Berettas. That's what it was designed for. The German army sidearm was another great gun based on the PP/K - the P-38.
I also think that the Colt 1911 SA design from John Brownie is a great pistol, just like all of his guns (the guy was a genius). It's safe to carry ready to roll with a round in the chamber, and the SA action trigger is probably the best trigger design for accurate shooting.
@@leohillkirk8412 I thought all that heat will fuck up the quenching of the steel? Shouldn't it soften the steel, reducing the safetyness of the gun? Of course the plastic gun won't even survive the fire in the first place.
I said it would technically survive a fire. I didn't say a fire would not affect the gun at all, but you might be able to use it if you need it.
@@leohillkirk8412 Definitely. But I don't think anyone should bring that gun to practice daily, just keep for security reason until they get a new one.
Yeaaaaaaa but I still love it. I actually feel like going to the range and practicing with my PPK/s is a challenge that helps me increase my marksmanship. It really makes me focus on every aspect of my form and technique. You might say that in a concealed carry self-defense situation that might not be totally ideal but I'd counter with the fact that I live in Maryland so CC is pretty much out the window.
Still gets people talking and asking questions at the range, still makes me feel good when I open the case. That's all that matters. MSRP notwithstanding, when used guns show up into my local shops they're usually in the $550-600 range which isn't terrible.
I am waiting on my background check to come back and I’m supposed to be able to pick it up tomorrow tell me rn if I’m making a mistake. Good condition, used, comes with 1 mag for 450+tax… live in south Florida. Please advice. I want this as a carry gun but I have relatively big hands as I’m 6’1. Just love everything cosmetically about the gun. Only thing that puts me down in this slide bite. Any advice helps. Thanks.
I’ve always thought it was a good looking pistol, and yes, I grew up on Sean Connery as 007. My solution? A Bersa Thunder .380. Slightly larger, pleasant to shoot, and stone cold reliable (for me).
Definitely
A much better pistol, by far!
Love my Thunder!
plus the thunder can be the double stack model too
I love my Bersa. Taught my daughter to shoot with that gun...she was nailing bullseyes at 10 yds her first time out.
Only one weapon, everything else is a tool. It's still a good gun, just not the best gun. Though 'best' is subjective to personal needs, wants and requirements. I prefer a SIG 365, others a Hellcat, or a Glock. If you want a PPK and can make it work for you, by all means go for it.
Anything that goes bang dependably is better than a sharp stick or brick, yes.
Both Sig p365 and ppk /s are great concealed carry. Usually choose the Walther. Conceals deeper. Easier to go anywhere. So safe too. It’s a mans gun imo. Need some experience in using it to get the well done mentality of it. It’s great. Sigs great too with its size and capacity.
Just bought the P365X last week, I can't wait till I pick it up in a few days. First firearm purchase and I can tell I'm going to love it already.
There is no "best gun", just the best gun for you
‘I wouldn’t rely on a pistol made in 1931 than I’d use a car made in 1931 as a daily driver.”
There is a big difference between a gun or car ‘made” in 1931 vs a gun or car ‘Designed” in 1931..
An object designed 90 years ago but built today will function just as well as they did when they were new.
Hell many people are still carrying browning high powers, 1911s, Smith and Colt Revolvers and even Single action revolvers…
If we were talking about an old Bad design, I’d understand, but the Walther isn’t a bad design…
They were great when they came out, and just because ‘better” designs have come out since, doesn’t mean they are suddenly terrible… they are still a functional modern firearm.
The first gun I ever fired was my dad's PPK/S. Shame that it was a first for me so the gun scratched my hand even though I handled it well. The fact that the range had bad ammo didn't help too, felt like the gun jammed more than it fired (my dad sold the gun to his friend and it ran flawlessly at another range so I assumed that it was an ammo problem).
"1911 fans are gullible and will buy anything"
Says the dude who spent tons of money customizing a lever action and made three videos on it.
Found you
I’m curious what’s that gotta do with being a 1911 fan. I’ve found it’s true 1911 fans will often overlook flaws with the 1911 design (and there’s enough).
@@denteater3498 Lever actions are far less relevant than the 1911 platform, yet he tried to rag on its fans.
Do you really think he did all that with zero self awareness? Buying something because you’re gullible and don’t know better != buying something you know is frivolous, just for kicks.
I enjoy your memes
I can't stand hearing the "Its good enough for James Bond...." which a family friend likes to tell me. That's like saying Terry Crews makes a good president because he was the president in the movie Idiocracy.
To be fair, Crews might be better than President* SpongeBrain DependsPants.
I would be willing to bet that less than half of the people who have ever written a James Bond movie or book have ever even held a handgun.
@@jwash3rd Spongebrain Dependspants 😂😂😂 Ol' Slow Stumblin Joe just keeps getting funnier and funnier nicknames.
Terry crews 2024
He probably would make a good president tbh. Seems like a solid guy.
The felt recoil issue of straight blowback pistols is why, I believe, 32 acp was far more popular than 380 acp in the war and pre-war years in Europe.
As is made clear in this video, trying to shoot 380 through a straight blowback pistol is.....unpleasant....takes lots of practice to master and, therefore, was considered highly unsuitable for mass issue to conscripted troops in WW2.
In fact, and exactly for this reason, 32acp was standard issue in the Wehrmact in WW2. I've never seen or heard of a war issue 380acp German pistol. If they even existed, they must have been private purchases and extremely rare.
32 acp was also Browning's favourite in this sort of pistol. He wasn't a fan of 380acp in straight blowback pistols at all.
It's a big, clunky pistol for such a small cartridge, but that is just the limitation of the straight blowback technology.
As a history buff, I love this pistol. But I also fully agree that it is very second rate technology compared to what is available now.
I loved your video on the PPK/S. I own one. It may not be the best, but I bought it in large part because of its history. Mine has aftermarket wood grips, and I would love to find a pair of reproduction 'party leader grips'. I find it perfectly comfortable to shoot except for one fatal flaw. I have the one made by Smith and Wesson with the extended tang. It literally draws blood. The tang is sharp and it cuts into the web of my hand. It's not "slide bite", it's the tang. I have taken to wearing a glove when I fire this gun. I have also glued a piece of velcro to the bottom of the tang. In addition, I have probably reduced the gun's value by taking a Dremel tool to round off the sharp edge to the underside of the tang. But, congratulations to you for being the first, and so far only, gun reviewer I have seen mentioning this 'fatal flaw'!
Mine is reliable accurate easy to conceal fast to reload and will get the job done so I am going to disagree with you. I carry it daily with confidence.
Tuned out as soon as I heard the word "Glock."
@Max Powers I might have cried "reeeee" if I had to watch any more Glock love, but I was saved by a mouse (thorn is now extracted from my paw.)
Here in Kommiefornia, my EDC is a can of pepper spray and a 2 3/4 inch channel lock folding knife, with a very sharp Damascus blade. Home defense is another story ... and I prefer big bore revolvers.
I’m not a Glock fan either, but I know a lot of folks that love Glocks. I prefer an all steel 1911 or Belgian Browning Hi Power.
But it’s all about personal preference.
Why is that I was considering my first pistol purchase would be a Glock but would like to know any negatives of them.
Ha ha, did the same thing, turned him off like I used to turn off my ol-man when I was a teenager. Bought mine back in the late eighties, still my everyday carry, 1911 in the night stand, 10mm near the front door.
Oh, clock guys remind me of Harley owners, everyone knows they have one.
@@corsair3886 Glock is an excellent choice for a first/primary gun purchase, especially the models 17, 19, and 43X. Most of the gun community would put these models in their recommended lists as well. Only downfalls to Glocks (using their flagship 19 as the primary example) are that they come with cheaper plastic sights (easily replaceable with your preferred night sight or fiber optic) and a sub-par feeling trigger (also easily replaceable). In reality, these issues are moreso preferences and the guns just work. Glocks don’t do anything perfectly but do everything well
That Boris “The Blade” reference let’s me know that you are a man of culture! Cheers! 😂
More than Words quote at the end killed me 🤣
Gotta say, I love, love, love my PPK. It is beautiful, and sturdy. I would never sell that weapon, it's one of my favorites. All that being said, my Glock 26 stays on my hip year around.
Glock 26 both Gen 3 and 5 I've owned and fired. The Glock 26 has many FTF and FTE. I'll never ever buy another Glock 26. I've been carrying the G17 gen 5.
"I chose this particular pistol..."
Because youre a glock fanboy.
I mean... Probably, lol. But in fairness, he's not wrong, they take up pretty much the same amount of space. As a guy who's never bothered with Glock, I say the choice was apt enough.
He's definitely not a Glock Fanboy.
@Windows Pinball We're practically brothers ever since I saved his life i8n Vietnam.
I own the PPK/S in 380 and I love shooting it, love the fixed sights and you can avoid the bite with a minor modification to your grip style. Compared to all the pistols I've practiced with the most (Glock 17, Sig Sauer p365 the WW2 Sauer 38h and a variety of 1911's), it's been the most accurate. The 1911's are next. But I am far from an expert with pistols, so take that with a grain of salt if need be. So I watched this video about 20 times before commenting because my first impression was that this guy didn't get it. While he does give the PPK its due as a truly fine pistol for the time it was introduced, he's a bit harsh otherwise and overly focused on the PPK as a Cold War icon (but thanks for the recommendations of Cold War pistols!). This was designed in 32 ACP for German police in the 1930's to carry concealed under a suit jacket, and then was one of the sidearms that could have been carried by officers in the German military of WW2 (although the later developed P38 was more common). Forget Bond, that's the context in which to view this pistol. And in that role it was a winner. Of all the European small pistols of that era, I think it's the most beautiful and the simplest, but that will start another debate. If Walther had tried to "modernize" this, what would have been the point? There's plenty of that already out there, and there is definitely a market for new "original" PPK's. If they brought back the original P38, they wouldn't be able to keep them on the shelves! Lucky Gunner's focus/beef is whether or not new pistol owners should choose this for a concealed carry. I agree this would not be my first choice for a beginner but for different reasons. I think metal is fine; the double action pull isn't that big of a deal, the old fashioned sights are fine and it really doesn't weigh too much to carry. If I were advising a beginner, I'd focus on a slide that was easy to rack, a light trigger, and overall easy simple load/unload/safe/unsafe functionality and field stripping that was super simple that muscle memory is almost immediate. On that, the PPK is pretty good but there are newer pistols out there that are ideal for someone just starting out. My two cents.
Thank you for the balanced and fair review. Too bad we didn't get that from the actual video creator.
After years of saving and searching, I finally bought my grail PPK: a 1961 PPK-L Dural model in 7.65. It's beautiful, lightweight, and exactly as wonderful to own as I'd always hoped. I will carry it whenever I find the opportunity, but I will probably not carry it that often. Because I agree with Chris here: as of 2022, the PPK is no longer a good choice for a carry gun.
Ergonomics are poor and slide bite is no joke. The DA pull is almost unshootably long, heavy, and gritty. Try to fix it with a reduced power hammer spring, and you risk light primer strikes. The sights are very small and very hard to use. Capacity is very low compared to modern wonder-compacts of similar size, made worse by the small calibers offered. On older German guns, hollowpoints are usually not recommended. While slim, the grips are not very grippy and fit few hands well, and there are few factory options to improve them.
But accuracy is excellent, build quality is even better (on the postwar German/French guns at least) and the elegance and charm of the design are unquestionable.
Realistically, any sane person should carry a Glock or a P365 instead. But some days I'll carry the PPK because I want to feel like 007, and other days I'll carry my old no-dash Model 36 because I want to feel like a 70s detective. As long as you know what you're getting into, an old and obsolescent design can still be a *viable* carry gun- just don't fool yourself into thinking it's a *good* carry gun.
I'm interested: How much does a gun like yours typically go for in the states?
@@manuelglasfort2622 A good example PPK-L in 7.65 will be around US$2000. In near-perfect condition with little or no visible finish wear, you'll be well over $2500. Examples in .22LR will be even more due to their rarity.
@@its_clean It's interesting how the market for used PPKs is different in the states. Over here in Germany you can get a PPK-L from the 60s and 70s in 7.65 in near mint condition for 250 to 400 Euros. They are probably more plentiful here and also the market for handguns is much smaller, meaning less demand.
@@manuelglasfort2622 That's wild to hear. I guess in Europe you consider old PPKs to just be used pocket pistols, whereas in the States they are seen as rare and valuable foreign-made collector's items. But on the other hand, we have all the new American-made pistols widely available, and you can easily find ARs for $500. Grass is always greener!
You’re exactly right!
You downplayed a very important feature of the PPK....it has a manual safety. This makes the gun safer for an inexperienced shooter that does not have good finger discipline. Also makes the gun safer in transit (like in a glove box or brief case). The flat hand grip of the PPK and PPK/s allow for very intuitive aiming; the PPK shoots where your point it.
Yea I agree. I actually found that the Glock had less accuracy and being more snappy. I don’t find the ppk snappy at all. Kinda scratched my head to this video lol
My PPK is in my bedside drawer. The safety is on, so I can fumble around in the dark for it without it firing. I would never do this with a Glock.
Someone who doesn't have good trigger discipline can't exactly be trusted to have good safety discipline.
@@chrisa.515 But the comment didn't say anything about the DA/SA so that's not what I was talking about.
Is a pre-cocked striker handgun inherently less safe? Yes. That is indeed a fact. If you want that to be your fact, I'll agree.
If your "fact" is that someone who can't be trusted to know where their finger is can be trusted to know the condition of their safety lever... that's not a fact, that optimism.
Again, let me make it clear. Is a Glock trigger inherently easier to actuate by accident? Yes. Is someone with unsafe weapon handling technique less likely to have an accidental discharge by adding gizmos to the weapon? No. I don't trust that person and in fact the safety could give that person a false sense of security. So in the end I'm worried about the person rather than the gun.
I don't purchase any handgun that has a manual safety. Safeties can fail and user error can result in death. Always treat the gun like it can fire at any time. External safeties are just false securities. If you don't have good trigger discipline then train first before carrying.
I have own the Bersa Thunder 380 single stack.
Looking for the Bersa Thunder plus double stack.
Don’t buy one. I say this from experience. Their double stack magazines are unreliable and cheaply made. I like Bersa Thunder pistols but they screwed up when they tried to make them high capacity with the “Plus” variant. In an effort to fix my failure to feed issue I purchased 2 additional magazines hoping that at least one of them would feed reliably… nope. When looking at the 3 of them side by side there are obvious visual differences that would indicate a lack of quality control. Believe me, stick with the single stack models.
The standard version is highly reliable and provides 8+1 capacity, which is plenty for self-defense.
Yeah the plus, well it's not good. The frame on the one I had was Sharp! Plus it was not as reliable as the single stack.
Nothing wrong with the classic, you are right. That’s a fine pistol.
i think the PPK is one of those handguns that an enthusiast buys. If you already own a Sig or a Glock... Or USP or all three... Maybe it's time to pick up a PPK? ...I bought a PPK 22 and a 22 suppressor and it's one of my favorite guns to shoot. It's such a fun little pecker. It's quiet and accurate. I can get away with some safe and effective drills in my own backyard, rather than a range.
As long as it doesn't jam every mag it's good to go right?
I carry a .380 ACP PPK/S every day as my CCW ….The pistol has a great single action trigger pull and is very balanced, concealable, accurate, reliable, and safe…….That last point is important….I rather a have a slightly heavy double action pistol with a hammer drop safety than accidentally finger fumble a Glock and have a bullet go down the side of my leg or worse, damage something more dear and important ….I had my gunsmith replace the factory sights with a set of XS sights, skate board tape the front strap and do trigger job on it… Typical mods. firearm lovers do to their pistols all the time….The pistol is a shooter….James Bond and I will now throw martini glasses against the wall in a fit of extreme disappointment at your ruthless review of the iconic , timeless , and STILL relevant PPK/S . 😉
He forgets that the PPK was designed to be carried “hot” with the safety off. That’s why it had that very hard trigger pull.
@@ColdWarShot Lucky Gunner also does not mention that once cocked the PPK/S has fantastic single action trigger pull
@@charlesprice3386 that’s very true. I’ve personally grown very fond of the PPK as my CCW. Most of the “faults” listed I find to either be assets or non issues
Exactly right to this post, and all replies. You thumb cock the hammer to get the first shot on single action as you draw. The heavy double action trigger pull is designed to be a safety in a 7 plus 1 carry scenario.
It’s like a classic car. Night out. Not your daily commute or long road trip so to speak.
That’s just what people who buy them tell themselves to make the purchase feel justified. Kind of like people who purchase P7’s. Cool gun, but there are 20+ firearms that are more functional, more modern, higher capacity, etc.
@@nathangothan601 all I hear from you is "gud anuff"
@@nathangothan601 everyone’s a contrarian…
P5 in 9x19, PP in 9x17 and .22, PPKS in 9x17. All have walnut grips. Elegant to look at and pleasant to shoot at a barbeque. As B B64 says, like driving a Mercedes SL190.
Aside from the size and, well, caliber (32 ACP in my case) and, well, magazine capacity, using my PPK reminds me of using my Beretta 92FS, since Beretta borrowed a lot from Walthers. You can carry a gun with a chambered round and at the same time uncocked hammer, and be ready to shoot by switching a lever. This sounds incredibly obvious today, but it's a very old gun, which, to me, still seems quite useable
I have an Interarms ppk/s that I love to own simply to just have one in my arsenal, but you bring up some excellent points regarding this pistol. Probably the best 380 pistols are the Sig p238, Sig P365 and the Glock 42 in that order. Really good video.