All these pros cry so much. Sweet died coz he was playing stupid standing in the open. Mande died coz he inted and was just in the open and Lou had a clear beam on him, rolla or mnk will do the same here. But you know, it's never the streamers with huge egos fault, it's everything and everyone else's fault they died.
@@DanielTazo Mande was next to cover, and Lou in Horizon Q hit every shot on him. Are you blind? Do you guys even use a single brain cell before commenting? And yes, Sweet was in the open, but his enemy was also in the open...
@@DanielTazo yeah - heres one thing for ya if you didnt know. "Legal aimbot" - literal aim assist. I dont know if ur stupid or just another dumb controller player. Watch one of the best ever mnk players Hal with 7500 hours on mnk, just randomly switch to roller, to win lan right after. The computer program assists ur aim (just like aimbot :))! WOW! And btw what are u talking about, how is Mande inting in this scenario - "clear beam" - mande has a free beam on him in the air. How the fuck is that an advantage to Lou? But its all the same with you guys. Everyone is switching to controller anyways now.
It will get to the point where most people are on controller in pro league and then the roller pros will complain about how stale it is to 50/50 every fight. We've already seen the stats from the ALGS London 2023, and you can barely see a difference in controller players individual skill at the highest level.
1.) There’s a reason the OG kings of MNK are switching to controller. 2.) The stupidity of AA is best demonstrated in diamond and above players, but can still be demonstrated in lower ranks. 3.) Saying just switch if it’s that’s broken is like someone saying stop being poor and buy a PC and also stop being a lazy player and get good on MnK.
@@TheRealBillix lol, sweet blaming controller there but is out in the open with no cover, misses 3 wingman shots in a row and doesnt q 😂😂😂😂 but yes bro, its the aim assist, you def didnt play that horribly
@@DrMalcolm97 "His enemy was in the open as well, by the way. What a dumb argument... And Mande was also in the open, right? The Wingman is not easy to hit with when you don't have a computer assisting you. Sweet is one of the best mnk players out there, by the way. I'd like to see you hitting every shot with the Wingman on mnk.
For sure but then the Mande clip, horizon supposedly nerfed but not for burst guns and roller AA lol. He was behind cover peaking and still got like 3 bursted while the guy was on horizon lift.
Dont understand how people can compare a line of code with hundreds of hours of learning and mastering movement. For movement you have to be good for aim assist you have to be an ape. Also when almost every pro switches to controller its a obvious sign
2/3 pros play mnk. Also whatever input you are using id roll you with my toes. Play on a controller, I’ll play mnk with my toes and still win. People complain about aim assist while watching professionals play not realizing how little aim assist actually does.
@@lzhiwei it’s facts. Hop on whatever input you want. I’ll beat you with my feet on mnk. If you want me on controller I’ll play with one hand. Respectfully I’m 100x better and so is every other pro.
@@faintfives if you really are doing that please record it and post it somewhere, would be interesting to watch if you are really so much better then erveryone else. + you must have some nice aim with your feet. Also curious how are you holding the mouse with your feet? can you give a tutorial on that please.
@@nicohansen1196 I have done it many times before. I have one hand on the keyboard and my foot on the mouse. When I play controller I use one hand. I do this to prove a point of the difference in skill between pros and amateur players. Mostly it’s used as a party trick with my friends. As far as how I aim with my foot, I don’t need to aim a whole lot. I sacrifice a lot of my aim but still can overcome with movement. I just need to barely be able to turn right or left and press down on the mouse when needed. As far as content, trust me, there is nothing skillful about beating up on hardstuck plat players who think aim assist is the reason they aren’t in diamond.
40% aimbot is still 90% of any controller players aim. It is objectively broken in a tracking-heavy, higher time to kill game like this. You losers that play on pc with controller genuinely ruin the game, and I cant wait for the day this game is liberated. I see the comment sections lately, and I see a good chunk of people expressing discontent with aim assist. I feel it in my bones, aim assist might actually be nerfed again.
I too have a feeling Respawn will do something. I can't fathom the scenario where they simply let the game die for MnK players and the situation is already dire.
@@grass842 I'm mnk but I don't think you guys realize the lobbies would be so dead... Most of PC players on apex already suck with MNK, that's why they usually play controller. I doubt they're going to switch to get rolled by good mnk players because they're all that is left of it... There are some casual MNK players though.
@@grass842 I am speaking from the perspective of controller players. If they play controller to begin with I don't think that would convince even 20% to switch.
@@axtra9561 I guarantee you if Respawn actually did offer input based lobbies/matchmaking, a lot of PC roller players would switch back and a lot of MnK players would come back. 2 years ago the vast majority of the PC player base was MnK, even the pro scene. Half of the PC players playing controller these days used to play MnK and only switched specifically in Apex because of the huge advantage in fights. The game survived perfectly fine the first two years with a smaller player base before crossplay was introduced and all this input drama was even a thing. Now the playerbase is huge. People would definitely flock back to MnK because it's simply more fun to play, especially against other MnK players. The queues would be fine.
@@grass842man speaking facts. I want to play in peace with MnK, even just pub lobbies. I feel like there are quite a lot of players that previously played with MnK, but they find out that they're bad with it. Then they picked up controller, they start beaming people, and then they think they're entered god mode, when in reality they're quite literally being "assisted". People would probably say "Then git gud." Against controller aim assist? That's not how it works...... "Then go pick up a controller." That literally not the issue 😂
Business perspective: why would we risk losing a huge slice of the playerbase which provides majority of the game's income? I hate AA too. Putting AA in MNK will be considered cheating but not on roller... Help me find the logic! Anyway, I dont think EA/Respawn will ever nerf AA cuz of money.
when your moving your aim on joystick. How do you stop the aim moving? You gotta recenter the joystick at the exact time moving that stick from all the way left or right back to center. When your moving the mouse you just stop and it stops. This is why aim assist is a thing and no one even talks about it.
@Dave Michael he's right unfortunately it will never get nerfed. What they may do tho, is somehow lower mixed inputs in lobbies. Maybe some lobbies will have majority MnK and others roller. Call of Duty surprisingly did a great job at that and when you plug in roller 90%+ of your lobbies will be controllers and a very small amount of MnK and vice versa
0:20 Skull mearly moves , hiding behind cover trying to hit with mastif from distance to do 11 damage Really bad movement for a pro , not controller 🎮 😂😂
lifelong controller players don't realize so I don't think they care as much... At least they have a esport other than COD (even though most of good console players have double the hours of pc pros and are unheard of or terrible)
The early tournaments in apex where so fun to watch, they where like 95% mnk players. People actually had the ability to pull off cool clutches, and fights where very unique. Miss that.
Roller destroying competetive gaming. Rollers picking the weaker input device, then whining "we cannot compete", we need an embedded aimbot! At the end they blame classic competetive players (mnk) who dont rely on aimbots, for not switching to playing with aimbot. Makes no sense. If you want to compete, start playing with skill only.
sweet is so fed up with apex his motivation for it is at an all-time low. he's just not trying as hard as he used to. Sweet would most definitely be high ranked pred if everyone was on mnk. playing controller is so unbelievably unfair towards mnk players rn. Apex sucks at keeping things equal. How can a room full of geniuses be so fukking bad at one simple thing(equality). They have LITERAL BADGES of lgbtq and a few other communities on how they support others opinion on being equal lol. Apparently, they don't care about us though.
The skill level involved to play controller is demonstrably lower. Why create a "pro" scene that caters to a casual input. Also, I refuse to watch any controller player for entertainment, unless its ALGS. M&K is 100x more enjoyable to watch
1.) There’s a reason the OG kings of MNK are switching to controller. 2.) The stupidity of AA is best demonstrated in diamond and above players, but can still be demonstrated in lower ranks. 3.) Saying just switch if it’s that’s broken is like someone saying stop being poor and buy a PC and also stop being a lazy player and get good on MnK.
Love watching pro MnK players choose to use the crutch input and then have the audacity to laugh as they shit on fellow pros that they know are still playing on MnK. Lou and his buds did nothing impressive or anything to be proud about. No respect for pros that play on roller.
@@Amisttttdude these guys are on roller on thousand+ dollar setups too. These are pros vs pros. Not console vs pc. Plus your thumb is incredibly accurate lol. The whole arm argument is so fucking dumb. Your whole arm is less precise than a finely moveable digit. Plus nobody aims with their whole arm, they wrist aim because it’s a smaller plane of movement than your whole arm. Your thumb is even smaller and more precise. Also isn’t controller made for gaming? Why do you need aim assist if it’s built for gaming? See how dumb that argument is? That’s what you sound like.
@@RauNash if people need aim assist in any game their's a reason, i just love it bc they have a 300 fps movement and they complain when they lose close range fights
mande was on highground behind cover and so was taxi, both got 1 clipped either way, cause not only the other team is on controller but they have horizon for insta high ground. The end was decided before the fight even started 😂
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Sweet: I died to a line of code 😂😂😂
He died because he had no cover is whats funny😂
All these pros cry so much. Sweet died coz he was playing stupid standing in the open. Mande died coz he inted and was just in the open and Lou had a clear beam on him, rolla or mnk will do the same here. But you know, it's never the streamers with huge egos fault, it's everything and everyone else's fault they died.
@@DanielTazo Mande was next to cover, and Lou in Horizon Q hit every shot on him. Are you blind? Do you guys even use a single brain cell before commenting? And yes, Sweet was in the open, but his enemy was also in the open...
@@DanielTazo yeah - heres one thing for ya if you didnt know. "Legal aimbot" - literal aim assist. I dont know if ur stupid or just another dumb controller player. Watch one of the best ever mnk players Hal with 7500 hours on mnk, just randomly switch to roller, to win lan right after. The computer program assists ur aim (just like aimbot :))! WOW! And btw what are u talking about, how is Mande inting in this scenario - "clear beam" - mande has a free beam on him in the air. How the fuck is that an advantage to Lou? But its all the same with you guys. Everyone is switching to controller anyways now.
lol, that's funny
Respawn : nerf aim assist ? Nah ... we gonna make it into a controller fps game ... everyone will switch eventually
Controller Player bla bla aim assist is not overpowerd.
MK Pro players. Lets switch to controller
The movement on mnk outweighs aim assist by 250033828x no comparison mnk is way easier
They got baited and ran up like bots, outplayed with movement
@@quintinmcadams5866 Oh really. Tell that to Hal, lou and half the MnK players who have made the switch.
It will get to the point where most people are on controller in pro league and then the roller pros will complain about how stale it is to 50/50 every fight. We've already seen the stats from the ALGS London 2023, and you can barely see a difference in controller players individual skill at the highest level.
@1:42 bruh that .2 sec left. lmao. that's my Apex life in a nutshell
1.) There’s a reason the OG kings of MNK are switching to controller.
2.) The stupidity of AA is best demonstrated in diamond and above players, but can still be demonstrated in lower ranks.
3.) Saying just switch if it’s that’s broken is like someone saying stop being poor and buy a PC and also stop being a lazy player and get good on MnK.
But too bad roller think with their thumb, not their head.
That's why most of them are bad igl
Just the way things are rn even alb is switching to roller 😂
At this point I think every pro should swap to controller will be fair for all
They wouldn't have any excuses if they did
@@zaccota8014 excuses? You mean reasons right
@@TheRealBillix that's what my kids say when they didn't do homework.
@@TheRealBillix lol, sweet blaming controller there but is out in the open with no cover, misses 3 wingman shots in a row and doesnt q 😂😂😂😂 but yes bro, its the aim assist, you def didnt play that horribly
@@DrMalcolm97 "His enemy was in the open as well, by the way. What a dumb argument... And Mande was also in the open, right? The Wingman is not easy to hit with when you don't have a computer assisting you. Sweet is one of the best mnk players out there, by the way. I'd like to see you hitting every shot with the Wingman on mnk.
AA is a free Aimbot in game
Remember when Hal said “ConTroLlEr isN’t EaSy” to alb yesterday and then they go and do this
they should nerf controller to 0.2 or 0.3
Nah keep it at 0.4, but remove rotational aim assist.
@@kev3914 that's a very good idea
How about 0.04
I run into Lou's squad multiple times a night when I get on 😂 it's exactly like this
Sweet was standing in the middle of the platform w/o cover. Aim Assist is still too OP tho.
For sure but then the Mande clip, horizon supposedly nerfed but not for burst guns and roller AA lol.
He was behind cover peaking and still got like 3 bursted while the guy was on horizon lift.
You would not definitely expect a sane player to slide outta that tunnel at max speed at you. Sweet probably thought he would shoot from height.
@@fishywtf controllerbots do stupid shit cuz they will one clip anyway cuz of aa
@@fishywtf where from his sentence did u got that hes talking about the second clip???
@@RiceCubeTech r u blind? he hit him for like 50/60 while flying off the q then the other 2 bursts were on the ground
Dont understand how people can compare a line of code with hundreds of hours of learning and mastering movement. For movement you have to be good for aim assist you have to be an ape. Also when almost every pro switches to controller its a obvious sign
2/3 pros play mnk. Also whatever input you are using id roll you with my toes. Play on a controller, I’ll play mnk with my toes and still win. People complain about aim assist while watching professionals play not realizing how little aim assist actually does.
@@faintfives cope and mental gymnastics
@@lzhiwei it’s facts. Hop on whatever input you want. I’ll beat you with my feet on mnk. If you want me on controller I’ll play with one hand. Respectfully I’m 100x better and so is every other pro.
@@faintfives if you really are doing that please record it and post it somewhere, would be interesting to watch if you are really so much better then erveryone else. + you must have some nice aim with your feet. Also curious how are you holding the mouse with your feet? can you give a tutorial on that please.
@@nicohansen1196 I have done it many times before. I have one hand on the keyboard and my foot on the mouse. When I play controller I use one hand. I do this to prove a point of the difference in skill between pros and amateur players. Mostly it’s used as a party trick with my friends. As far as how I aim with my foot, I don’t need to aim a whole lot. I sacrifice a lot of my aim but still can overcome with movement. I just need to barely be able to turn right or left and press down on the mouse when needed. As far as content, trust me, there is nothing skillful about beating up on hardstuck plat players who think aim assist is the reason they aren’t in diamond.
Controller players should pay 40% more tax 😮
40% aimbot is still 90% of any controller players aim. It is objectively broken in a tracking-heavy, higher time to kill game like this. You losers that play on pc with controller genuinely ruin the game, and I cant wait for the day this game is liberated.
I see the comment sections lately, and I see a good chunk of people expressing discontent with aim assist. I feel it in my bones, aim assist might actually be nerfed again.
Not just pc rollers but an option to take crossplay off on pc would be nice
I too have a feeling Respawn will do something. I can't fathom the scenario where they simply let the game die for MnK players and the situation is already dire.
@@yourepolo2000 >stop crying
>emoji
>npc
A casual player with a controller is fine. A pro player or advanced player can easily ape, and use AA to their advantage.
@@grass842 I'm mnk but I don't think you guys realize the lobbies would be so dead... Most of PC players on apex already suck with MNK, that's why they usually play controller.
I doubt they're going to switch to get rolled by good mnk players because they're all that is left of it... There are some casual MNK players though.
@@grass842 I am speaking from the perspective of controller players. If they play controller to begin with I don't think that would convince even 20% to switch.
@@grass842 have any stats to back this up? My experience says otherwise.
@@axtra9561 I guarantee you if Respawn actually did offer input based lobbies/matchmaking, a lot of PC roller players would switch back and a lot of MnK players would come back. 2 years ago the vast majority of the PC player base was MnK, even the pro scene. Half of the PC players playing controller these days used to play MnK and only switched specifically in Apex because of the huge advantage in fights. The game survived perfectly fine the first two years with a smaller player base before crossplay was introduced and all this input drama was even a thing. Now the playerbase is huge. People would definitely flock back to MnK because it's simply more fun to play, especially against other MnK players. The queues would be fine.
@@grass842man speaking facts. I want to play in peace with MnK, even just pub lobbies. I feel like there are quite a lot of players that previously played with MnK, but they find out that they're bad with it. Then they picked up controller, they start beaming people, and then they think they're entered god mode, when in reality they're quite literally being "assisted".
People would probably say "Then git gud." Against controller aim assist? That's not how it works......
"Then go pick up a controller." That literally not the issue 😂
Business perspective: why would we risk losing a huge slice of the playerbase which provides majority of the game's income?
I hate AA too. Putting AA in MNK will be considered cheating but not on roller... Help me find the logic! Anyway, I dont think EA/Respawn will ever nerf AA cuz of money.
Mnk has inputs impossible on controller? Why aren’t you crying about that?
@@lewismescudi1404 bro shut it, you are delusional, using controller is skill-less
when your moving your aim on joystick. How do you stop the aim moving? You gotta recenter the joystick at the exact time moving that stick from all the way left or right back to center. When your moving the mouse you just stop and it stops. This is why aim assist is a thing and no one even talks about it.
damn they just got pissed on fr
Nerf controller dude..
It's never getting nerfed, deal with it
@Dave Michael he's right unfortunately it will never get nerfed. What they may do tho, is somehow lower mixed inputs in lobbies. Maybe some lobbies will have majority MnK and others roller. Call of Duty surprisingly did a great job at that and when you plug in roller 90%+ of your lobbies will be controllers and a very small amount of MnK and vice versa
@Dave Michael my hero! i believe in you bro! let's just hope it goes through! :) and ye i agree
even if it does get nerfed 4-3 users are still going to shoot like turrets because slow sens is brain rot in general
0:20
Skull mearly moves , hiding behind cover trying to hit with mastif from distance to do 11 damage
Really bad movement for a pro , not controller 🎮 😂😂
Nah, eSports on controller is so boring, how is the point to comp with few skill 🥱🥱
lifelong controller players don't realize so I don't think they care as much... At least they have a esport other than COD (even though most of good console players have double the hours of pc pros and are unheard of or terrible)
The early tournaments in apex where so fun to watch, they where like 95% mnk players. People actually had the ability to pull off cool clutches, and fights where very unique. Miss that.
Yea 100% agree
Beautiful.
LMFAOOOOOOO
Yeah aim assist is really frustrating
I Will Climb on Mount Everest If they nerf controller..... ...
I play controller… nerf controller
Ban everyone on a premade team if a single one of their members has a controller plugged into any of their PCs for any reason.
They switched to controller like you NPCs said they should, and they are absolutely dominating lobbies. Who would’ve thought 😂😂
Roller destroying competetive gaming.
Rollers picking the weaker input device, then whining "we cannot compete", we need an embedded aimbot!
At the end they blame classic competetive players (mnk) who dont rely on aimbots, for not switching to playing with aimbot.
Makes no sense.
If you want to compete, start playing with skill only.
sweet is so fed up with apex his motivation for it is at an all-time low. he's just not trying as hard as he used to. Sweet would most definitely be high ranked pred if everyone was on mnk. playing controller is so unbelievably unfair towards mnk players rn. Apex sucks at keeping things equal. How can a room full of geniuses be so fukking bad at one simple thing(equality). They have LITERAL BADGES of lgbtq and a few other communities on how they support others opinion on being equal lol. Apparently, they don't care about us though.
“But aim assist”
The skill level involved to play controller is demonstrably lower. Why create a "pro" scene that caters to a casual input.
Also, I refuse to watch any controller player for entertainment, unless its ALGS. M&K is 100x more enjoyable to watch
Everyone talking sht, if it really was that OP you’d all be using it. But youre still a bot.
Pro’s are pro’s for a reason not because of input
1.) There’s a reason the OG kings of MNK are switching to controller.
2.) The stupidity of AA is best demonstrated in diamond and above players, but can still be demonstrated in lower ranks.
3.) Saying just switch if it’s that’s broken is like someone saying stop being poor and buy a PC and also stop being a lazy player and get good on MnK.
@@lilbeartv9039 so you’re saying they can afford a 10k PC but not a controller? 🧐
Love watching pro MnK players choose to use the crutch input and then have the audacity to laugh as they shit on fellow pros that they know are still playing on MnK. Lou and his buds did nothing impressive or anything to be proud about. No respect for pros that play on roller.
All these excuses
Taxi is such a complainer haha
They literally got thirded on that second fight
Laxi
Mouse and key nerds gunna have a field day with this video lmao
field day of truth yeah. imagine needing code to aim for you actual skill issue
@@frankdagrank2423 imagine spending thousands on a build, using your whole arm to aim, just to get bodied by a thumb💀 at least u cry in HD
@@Amisttttdude these guys are on roller on thousand+ dollar setups too. These are pros vs pros. Not console vs pc.
Plus your thumb is incredibly accurate lol. The whole arm argument is so fucking dumb. Your whole arm is less precise than a finely moveable digit. Plus nobody aims with their whole arm, they wrist aim because it’s a smaller plane of movement than your whole arm. Your thumb is even smaller and more precise.
Also isn’t controller made for gaming? Why do you need aim assist if it’s built for gaming? See how dumb that argument is? That’s what you sound like.
@@Amistttt its the aim assist that did everything not the thumbs 😅
@@Amistttt Lou PC setup is more than 4k idk what are you talking about ? we talk about controller on PC not console nerd
Sweet hot garbage in these clips
😂 wdym???
Love the way they talk shit on controller but when they are tap strafing, jitter aiming across the map they ain’t complaining
you clearly don't know what it's like playing MnK
@@eastsidechump92 dw bro most controller players have underdeveloped frontal lobes
@@eastsidechump92 lol I play both. Just saying both has advantages and in the right situations each will look op
What do you mean ?, At least we can tap strafe, jitter aim with practice on muscle memory and not aim with some AI
U are saying like controllers can't do the same things
When they can now do it better than MnK
i feed on the tears on mnk players
When rollers get nerfed, roller players start buying cheats. It's always been the same with you bots.
@@TheRealBillix i honestly would bet that, the second the remove/nerf aim assist people wont switch to mnk, theyll just buy cheats
Ah yes, blame everything but yourself, ofc you got outplayed by the aim assist, and not your crap positioning and not great aim either...
I love when pc complain about aim assist
I love whn people dnt blv aim assist is too op in this game
@@RauNash if people need aim assist in any game their's a reason, i just love it bc they have a 300 fps movement and they complain when they lose close range fights
remove AA u'll complain too 😄😅
@@JesusIsKiing379 as yu said 300 fps and movement at still lose you can't see the problem lmao
@@JesusIsKiing379 lol, are u dumb? all of those are pc players
Sweet hits one shot, was in a terrible position, gets 💩 on:
" oh...he's on controller 🤓"
i mean he was in fact on controller
@@nehalcm But he was saying it like an excuse
mande was on highground behind cover and so was taxi, both got 1 clipped either way, cause not only the other team is on controller but they have horizon for insta high ground. The end was decided before the fight even started 😂
@@jorgebarbosa8014 tbf in a 1v1 mnk is never beating controller especially these pros with controller
@@nehalcm u sure????
Lmao mnk players cry every single game
because aim assist is ridiculously overpowered
@@bruh-nq5px it's not op lol I can show you the same for m&k
@@scrive19 no you literally cant lmao
@@bruh-nq5px lol delusional you are
top 1000 roller can easily out-aim top 100 MnK in close range.
Why did they run up like bots like that