X AIR How To: Ringing out Monitors with Graphic EQ & RTA (Android)
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- Опубликовано: 11 окт 2024
- In this video, we show you how to prevent feedback by ringing out your monitors with X AIR Digital Mixer, using the X AIR Android app.
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got the debut gig of our x18 tonight, so far having done research and played around with it this could be the answer to all our issues and more, thanks Behringer
Thanks for the X18 videos! My band is putting a new P.A. together and we just purchased a new X-Air X18 along with powered mains and subs and the Behringer personal monitor amps for in ears. Now my question is, can you guy's do a complete tutorial series in a real wold band environment for someone who has never mixed (or in my case hasn't mixed sound in over 20 years), showing everything from how to connect all of the cabling to sound checking and mixing? How and when to use what effect, how to mix drums and effects such as when and how to use a gate on a kick etc.... The tutorials you guy's have now are great but just not complete.
This seems like the answer to all my prayers. Haha. Just ordered. I suck at EQ.
Hi Phil, as a new convert to the X Air, this (and all the other vids) is really useful. On this particular one, would it be possible to do a similar HowTo where you ring out the monitors using a pink noise generator as the input?
Fantastic Phil - Thanks!
You rock!
Sold!
This is groundbreaking info for me! Thank you!
I've watched this several times, but I am guessing because the video is nearly five years old (and android) that the app has changed a lot, and probably the iPad version is different anyhow.
I can not for the life of me find the 100 band eq in the output / bus sends on my version using the latest App on an iPad 6. Can you tell me where to find it please, or better still do a video using the iPad with the latest app, and actually show where you are finding the buttons to press on the screen, as some of the names you mention here just do not appear on the main screen of the iPad app at all, so that makes it impossible to follow this tutorial, and remove the feedback before it even happens. I used my XR18 desk for the first time a couple nights back live, and was at the mercy of the feedback monster because even though two of us at the gig have the same system, neither of us know where to locate that eq and therefore how to get rid of the feedback using our iPad controllers. Note I also have the X Touch Desk, but again I am only just starting to find my way around that, as this whole world of digital mixers, with iPad / android controllers is a whole different monster to guys like myself who grew up with old school desks that take up half a room.
let me know if you find the solution before i buy
Blown away. Getting this.
thank you
Really helpful, thanks
When you lower the frequency in the bus master to reduce feedback, are you also reducing frequencies if you are playing a track via the bus?
Thanks for your lessons, although I do not speak enough English, I understand, my question is:
I understand that is possible by software x-air edit control all functions of the mixer, using a network cable (CAT 5). if this is true, it could be the mixer on stage and laptop to 10 -15 meters, in front of the stage.
+Antonio Jose Jimenez Hernandez Yes that will work just fine. :)
Nice one Phil!
this is awesome
Trying to find the equivalent Bus Master and100 Band RTA on IPAD or X-Air EDIT program?
Hi, Have you ever found this on the Ipad or Xair Edit? Thank you.
truly amazing
Awesome!!!.....free classes. Phil, where did you learn to be a sound engineer?
+Roger Stevens Phil is not only a great sound/electronics engineer but also a well experienced touring musician!
I'm getting one on Monday.
Awesome!
nice!
Does this subtractive eq affects the overall eq of each instrument? lets say you substract high frequencies from the vocal channel because of feedback...is your vocal channel going to miss those frequencies so you vocalist will sound less crisp??
That's correct, if you pull out a specific frequency of a vocal channel then that frequency will be reduced in that input channel and wherever else you have it routed as "POST EQ."
when the blue line indicator go's up to tell you what frequency to pull back' if your playing live by the time look down to see which one it is' its gone' is there a setting to make to make the blue indicator stay up longer?
Just to clarify, the blue lines aren't meant to specifically tell you which frequencies to pull back, they are just an indication of the frequencies present in the selected channel represented in real time. (Hence Real Time Analyzer, or RTA) The idea is to use this data along with what you are hearing to consider which frequencies require adjusting in your EQ and then remove as necessary.
There are additional options for adjusting the RTA bar decay time in the PC version of our X AIR EDIT software using the RTA Utility feature.
Is the 31 band GEQ in the busmaster for the whole system? When I pull out problematic frequenties in the busmaster, will it affect the whole foh sound too? how can i pull out freqs only for that mic? can i put a 31 band as inserts?
With X AIR all 6 AUX outputs and the Main LR Output have a built in 6-band PEQ or 31-band GEQ/TEQ so you can control your signals. You can also individually EQ each channel at it's source.
I can’t seem to find this option on the updated version of x air. Is this function not available on the updated version?
Is there a way to do this on iPad? I can't seem to find the Bus master
+afincaomuzik Yes it's located on the right hand side of the app when you select your bus.
I'm assuming that the external router is not connected by wire to the modem, is this correct? I have a problem that I am using this in a place with a number of walls (cinder block and concrete) plus a fair bit of distance. I get the ball and first bar of 3 in the wifi logo on my tablet. Will doing this give me a better signal and minimize any delay/latency? Any recommendations on routers under $200 that would work the best. It sounds as if what you are describing is what they call a wireless bridge. Is that correct? Thanks.
+Nathan .Vanderslice We actually were using the WiFi Client feature for this video demonstration Nathan. This is not a wireless bridge as only one wireless network is present.
It is possible that using a more robust external router (via WiFi Client or directly connecting your X AIR to your router) can help alleviate network congestion and may reduce any delays you may be experiencing. Most routers under $200 will work, the key is setting up your network properly to handle your workload.
Can this be done on a X32 as well? I don't recall to see the rta on the eq sections on neither x32 full or x32 producer that I have, if would be totally cool if you can do the same thing?
+Christian Claverol Yes, this is possible using the X32 Edit PC software.
This will likely be implemented in a future release of the X32 iOS App. Stay tuned to our social media for updates!
Great , Especially when you don't have a FB destroyer
Hi! Where can I find this option on the PC app?
100 bands? Is this true? Because I can se "only" 31 band on Bus and Main master section.
Me too. (on my Android tablet. I can't work out how to do it on my iPad)
Heeeej Great product but i have a question is it possible to link the bussen to creat 3 stereo busses and 1 stereo from the headphones?
If so please explain in a video
thanks
Yes this is possible Eric, you can stereo link you AUX outputs (1/2, 3/4, 5/6) to get three stereo pairs. This can be done by selecting a bus in the lower right hand corner of the X AIR software.apps and then clicking on the scribble strip for the Bus Master. Then just click the config tab and LINK to stereo link your busses.
You can also set your headphone output to monitor there stereo bus pairs (or any Bus individually), but this will be a duplicate of one of your three stereo pairs.
Hope this helps!
Hey, you are great. Maybe you'll see this, or someone can help me here... I'm scouring the internet, but on my "Set Up" page of XAir for PC it doesn't recognize my new X18. I'm thinking this is the first step of all first steps, can't even check the firmware or anything until my computer sees the that the thing is plugged in! It says "Searching Devices" in blue text under a dim Connect button. I just can't figure it out. Can't wait to get started. Next step is to record into Studio One, then out into the real world for some gigs! Please help! Thanks.
If you're still having problems then please contact our CARE department so that we can help you. You can reach us by phone at 702-963-1300 (US) or +44 1562 732290 (UK) or send us an email to CARECREA@music-group.com and one of our technical CARE specialists will be glad to assist you.
Hi can this same thing be done to cut feedback out front as well, trying to get more volume for vocals
Yes you can do this on the Main LR outputs as well, it's the same procedure just handled on the Main LR Output channel.
If I have a behringer xl2400, can I use direct out from the xair?
I would only be using the xair for In ear monitors and recording
Why would you need to use both? Just hook up your X AIR and your good to go! X AIR can handle Mixing, recording and handling your in ear mixes all in one box.
what if i only have the ipad-does it have this same page on the ipad so i can use it to adjust the frequency of microphones?
Yes the iPad app is able to do this as well, including the RTA feature.
Can this be done on the iOS app
How would you use the rta for the mac book app???
This is explained in the product manual, here's the link:
media.music-group.com/media/PLM/data/docs/P0BI8/X-AIR-Series_M_EN.pdf
Is there a way to use this App with an X32 Behringer , I tried it but the IP address of the X32 would not except it.
+Juan Chun ,
The X AIR app will not work with X32, however, you should take a look at the 3rd Party app "Mixing Station" for Android devices which features a similar interface.
can I do this in iPad?
Can't find the 100 band EQ on the master bus just a 31 band did it change...help
+lordrhythm It's always been either a 6 band Parametric EQ or a 31-band GEQ/TEQ on the Mains and Bus Outputs.
Ringing out Monitors with Graphic EQ & RTA (Android)
Is there a video on how to do this on the IOS app?
+Lucas O'Dougherty The same processes portrayed in this video can easily be applied to the X AIR Android and iPad Apps.
does anybody know if this can be done on ipad? When I'm in the EQ setting the frequencies causing the feedback don't seem to be displaying. Any help would be great.
+quemming Yes EQ and RTA are implemented in the latest version of the X AIR iPad app.
What tablet is that??
+Martyn Frith That is a Nexus 7 Android Tablet.
I'm not seeing that screen when I go to bus master. I dont get any EQ slider. Using android on my Droid Turbo phone
To get to this screen on the X AIR iPad App, click the BUS selection button on the main mix window of the iPad app and then click on the scribble strip for that BUS. Once you've done that, just click the EQ tab at the top of the page and select the GEQ or TEQ button on the right hand side of the EQ section. You also have access to the RTA feature there as well.
Is there a 100 band RTA for the front of house? I was having a problem with feedback from my mains and I was trying to notch it out like Phil is doing with monitor.
Yes you can use RTA on the Main LR output.
how to use this thing?
Hi Ryberg, if you need additional help then you can reach us by phone at 702-800-8290 (US) or +44 1562 732290 (UK) or send us an email to CARE@music-group.com and one of our technical CARE specialists will be glad to assist you. Thanks!