I’d be down to see this for an Orvar deck. I absolutely love Orvar and think it would be awesome to have this kind of video about him. But who am I kidding, I’m watching any of these style videos regardless.
Sweet video, been playing Food chain for a few years now working from Prossh to Tazri and now First Sliver for the last month. such a neat deck and often games locally come down to Sliver beats
thank you for presenting fsfc! this is my primary deck..for a 1k budget build, it is still consistent between t2-3..it can win from an almost empty boardstate 💪..and you dont even need your commander..it can win on a turn 1-2 neoform thoracle consult line
I've been playing around with First Sliver Food Chain. I made every creature a Sliver with the exception of one Realmwalker. The decks main focus is on Food Chain, Double Major, Maelstrom Nexus, and Reflections of Littjara. Use Double Major on The First Sliver giving all Slivers double cascade. Reflections gives a copy of every Sliver that hits field. Food chain any Sliver to bounce First Sliver and or use Maelstrom Nexus to give the first Sliver you play every turn triple cascade. Finish up by Food Chaining the whole field and play either Yawgmoth's Will or the new Gaea's Will to play and re-cascade the whole graveyard. Edit: Eerie Ultimatum works as well it's just got a high CMC.
AWESOME deck tech !! I love the food chain decks... i'm running a ukkima/cazur and I think is a very strong way to play... What about a Derevi deck tech?? Still viable commander for cEDH?
Gr8 content, and also i'd like to see some winning lines, making the deck tech a bit more deep. For example, explaining the intuition to sevine reclamation +food chain +CFE or Breach + Sevinne + LED. Or alternate ways to win when u mess up ur usual combo lines. Such as brain freeze opp after food chain n then Wheel, etc. I'd be a longer video, but i like more in depth strategies than the basics, the basics are easy to learn(imo) but actual gameplay strategies are more valuable and only experienced cEDH players like you can offer that knowledge.
I want to bring up the reasons why sliver food chain deck is superior than others. Other than being 5 colors that you have all the best cards, the first sliver can have very few redundancies. Cards you would normally use in cEDH are also part of the win cons. Timetwister and noxious revival are infinite loops to cast spells in your deck, combine with extract you can exile all opponents' libraries, with assassin's trophy they will only have basic lands (none if you have any graveyard removal), infinite birds with swon song...etc I don't run Jace nor lab man because of the redundancy I don't think I need, however I have riftsweeper and memory's journey for recover/answers being more versatile.
@@PlayingWithPowerMTG Hey Mike, I know you're a big fan of Najeela. I've got a cedh tournament going on at my lgs this weekend. Do you think I should slap Najeela together for it or should I stick to my Edric turns deck?
@@Turn2Ugin i would stick with the deck you currently have. Just because the deck is statistically better in theory, you can never account for experience and game sense in deckbuilding alone. However, if you have prior experience piloting a najeela list at a high level tournament, id say go for it
@@Turn2Ugin Edric turns is a cool deck! Najeela is one of the easier decks to pick up and play without any experience, but you do need to be careful of when to go for wins, when to focus on Najeela attacks, or when to pivot into Thoracle lines.
I''ve been following Shapersavant food chain decks for years. When it started as a Food Chain Prossh deck (which I still love playing). This is probably my personal favorite cEDH deck. Winnota is closing in though. If there is a way, could RG Omnath be cEDH viable? That one I would love to see. Or Kroxa. Which is also bad ass...
www.moxfield.com/decks/Edq1ZQOBjUq4uXOIaFEsRA this is the kroxa deck that is currently featured in the cedh decklist database. Rg omnath isnt viable because of his cost, weak color combination, and reliance on additional land drops that is difficult to execute on a cedh level
I win with my FCS deck about 30-40% of the time in my competitive playgroup. I think the biggest problem I’ve seen (and experienced) with Food Chain Sliver is that it’s a relatively easy deck to pilot at first glance which creates a space where new CEDH players are drawn to it. Someone who is just starting to play competitive (or Magic in general) is going to struggle with actually winning the deck because you can get too focused on going for just a food chain win and they don’t know how or when to pivot from that or when to interact with the stack (I.e. they waste counters on spells that wouldn’t really affect the game plan that FCS wants to do). It can be a fragile deck at times but in my experience it’s pretty solid and it’s never really boring to play with.
i would love to watch someone cast EVERY spell and creature in their deck (leaving only lands), and watch someone patiently wait and then mass board wipe that sliver player, LOL. i run a sliver deck, but avoid infinite combos in order to be more fair, keep my friends, and to have more fun.
This is the type of series I’ve always wanted as a cEDH player who is curious about how to play many of the major decks
I’d be down to see this for an Orvar deck. I absolutely love Orvar and think it would be awesome to have this kind of video about him.
But who am I kidding, I’m watching any of these style videos regardless.
Sweet video, been playing Food chain for a few years now working from Prossh to Tazri and now First Sliver for the last month. such a neat deck and often games locally come down to Sliver beats
We need a FROG guide, the rog deserves a pog video
I love this content 😁👍, I would love to see Consultation Kess next please 🙏
Great video! Can you do a deep dive discussion into the Forbidden Tutors?
Great suggestion!
thank you for presenting fsfc! this is my primary deck..for a 1k budget build, it is still consistent between t2-3..it can win from an almost empty boardstate 💪..and you dont even need your commander..it can win on a turn 1-2 neoform thoracle consult line
I want more deck tech videos, great stuff!
Good news, we have more in the works! :)
I've been playing around with First Sliver Food Chain. I made every creature a Sliver with the exception of one Realmwalker. The decks main focus is on Food Chain, Double Major, Maelstrom Nexus, and Reflections of Littjara. Use Double Major on The First Sliver giving all Slivers double cascade. Reflections gives a copy of every Sliver that hits field. Food chain any Sliver to bounce First Sliver and or use Maelstrom Nexus to give the first Sliver you play every turn triple cascade. Finish up by Food Chaining the whole field and play either Yawgmoth's Will or the new Gaea's Will to play and re-cascade the whole graveyard. Edit: Eerie Ultimatum works as well it's just got a high CMC.
First Blood Pod, now First Sliver. Throw in Tatyova and Kess and we'll have all of Zach's personal decks in the Up and Running section
I’d love to see techs on some of the weirder decks like pako or chulane!
Any ad naus deck please! I think there is a lot of nuance in what you keep in a pile, and how to manage stax with it
Great video, I would love to see a video on Yisan
AWESOME deck tech !! I love the food chain decks... i'm running a ukkima/cazur and I think is a very strong way to play...
What about a Derevi deck tech?? Still viable commander for cEDH?
Gr8 content, and also i'd like to see some winning lines, making the deck tech a bit more deep. For example, explaining the intuition to sevine reclamation +food chain +CFE or Breach + Sevinne + LED. Or alternate ways to win when u mess up ur usual combo lines. Such as brain freeze opp after food chain n then Wheel, etc. I'd be a longer video, but i like more in depth strategies than the basics, the basics are easy to learn(imo) but actual gameplay strategies are more valuable and only experienced cEDH players like you can offer that knowledge.
I want to bring up the reasons why sliver food chain deck is superior than others. Other than being 5 colors that you have all the best cards, the first sliver can have very few redundancies. Cards you would normally use in cEDH are also part of the win cons. Timetwister and noxious revival are infinite loops to cast spells in your deck, combine with extract you can exile all opponents' libraries, with assassin's trophy they will only have basic lands (none if you have any graveyard removal), infinite birds with swon song...etc
I don't run Jace nor lab man because of the redundancy I don't think I need, however I have riftsweeper and memory's journey for recover/answers being more versatile.
Awesome! Just built this deck as my first cedh deck! Loving this format and all your content!
Cedh is a great community. (;
could we get a rograhk / ardenn deck tech pls
Love the vid. the blur effect on some of the cards, or line of text is a bit very much though. other than that, really nice video. Keep it up!
Mike here, this was my first shot at editing a video, definitely realizing this now lol! What I'm working on now is hopefully much much better.
@@PlayingWithPowerMTG Hey Mike, I know you're a big fan of Najeela. I've got a cedh tournament going on at my lgs this weekend. Do you think I should slap Najeela together for it or should I stick to my Edric turns deck?
@@Turn2Ugin i would stick with the deck you currently have. Just because the deck is statistically better in theory, you can never account for experience and game sense in deckbuilding alone. However, if you have prior experience piloting a najeela list at a high level tournament, id say go for it
@@Turn2Ugin Edric turns is a cool deck! Najeela is one of the easier decks to pick up and play without any experience, but you do need to be careful of when to go for wins, when to focus on Najeela attacks, or when to pivot into Thoracle lines.
This is fantastic!!
I love Food Chain Sliver, but I also love how all 4 gameplay videos has the FCS deck get pooped on.
You'll have that sometimes :)
@@PlayingWithPowerMTG Still, amazing video as always. Love the work you guys do ❤
I'm so down for this series!
I recommend Noble Hierarch and Ignoble Hierarch in addition to the 8 mana dorks you mentioned.
Wild Growth is not needed.
PWP vídeo on the stack? Pass priority. It resolves.
please, make one about tasigur, the golden fang. Love the channel, thanks
This is an incredible series. Do you have any plans to do this with Breya etherium sculptor?
We are looking to keep it going
Is there any reason why Arcane Signet or Noble Hierarch is not part of the deck tech?
In a playtest I won with this deck turn 2! Great build.
Have you heard of the underworld breach sliver lists? Last I heard that was the new meta build.
Yep sure have. Food Chain sliver has been around for a bit, so we decided to do that one first.
@@PlayingWithPowerMTG alright, just wanted to make sure, haven't seen it in a recent vid and I wanted to help flourish the cedh community.
I''ve been following Shapersavant food chain decks for years. When it started as a Food Chain Prossh deck (which I still love playing). This is probably my personal favorite cEDH deck. Winnota is closing in though. If there is a way, could RG Omnath be cEDH viable? That one I would love to see. Or Kroxa. Which is also bad ass...
www.moxfield.com/decks/Edq1ZQOBjUq4uXOIaFEsRA
this is the kroxa deck that is currently featured in the cedh decklist database. Rg omnath isnt viable because of his cost, weak color combination, and reliance on additional land drops that is difficult to execute on a cedh level
Kroxa is in okay colours and is an infinite sink, so he’s not unplayable.
You forgot to mention the most annoying stack piece at last, the one and only archon of emeria
Can you guys do fish n chips next? /updated curious control ?
6:14 is noble hierarch not good enough?
Will this be the last sliver deck tech? I'd like others.
More coming soon!
This! Maybe Elsha or Niv? Pretty please?
Niv please!
Saw the 4 games this deck is used in, didn’t see it pop off at all
As a general rule when you post gameplay footage of a deck, post at least 1 gameplay where it wins
Food chain wins games! Lol
I see this deck a lot but I’ve never seen it actually win
Haha same bro, if you're playing 5 color just play something better
I win with my FCS deck about 30-40% of the time in my competitive playgroup. I think the biggest problem I’ve seen (and experienced) with Food Chain Sliver is that it’s a relatively easy deck to pilot at first glance which creates a space where new CEDH players are drawn to it. Someone who is just starting to play competitive (or Magic in general) is going to struggle with actually winning the deck because you can get too focused on going for just a food chain win and they don’t know how or when to pivot from that or when to interact with the stack (I.e. they waste counters on spells that wouldn’t really affect the game plan that FCS wants to do).
It can be a fragile deck at times but in my experience it’s pretty solid and it’s never really boring to play with.
@@HAYD3N60 yeah it seems almost glass cannony. More reliable than Godo I think, but still can be shut down
Not playing Sliver Tribal? No thanks, not for me 😂
I wanna see this in action
Xantcha is who I'd like to see next.
i would love to watch someone cast EVERY spell and creature in their deck (leaving only lands), and watch someone patiently wait and then mass board wipe that sliver player, LOL. i run a sliver deck, but avoid infinite combos in order to be more fair, keep my friends, and to have more fun.
Hmmmmn Idk... I don't think this is the first sliver deck tech...
You do realize the commander is called “The First Sliver” right? Lmao
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