Note about proteus staff that _is_ important vs polymorph: Proteus staff lets you put the stuff on the bottom of your library in *any order*. On the first polymorph this doesn't matter so much, but if you target your tidespout tyrant with that ability, it'll go on the bottom of your library, and then be polymorph'd up to the battlefield, revealing your entire library and allowing you to stack your deck the way you want like a mini doomsday.
Great job. I like these deck techs. Would love to see you do one on Kalia of the Vast. Even if you don't keep doing these really learning a lot. Thanks for the great videos.
How is the process so far? I have a classic Urza Sceptor deck that runs all the expensive cards except Timetwister (I don’t have nor do I intend to spend that much money) and he’s oppressive.
That is my deck :D I feel like it is more adaptative than disruptive, since sometimes we can combo on turn 3 or even turn 2. Turn 3, 4 or 5 we usually have a decision to combo off or try to disrupt and protect a later combo. Anyway, really good video Ryan!
I'd love to see a Gitrog video in this series! While there are lots of guides for it online, I think it would really be helpful for people who learn verbally (like me!).
Thank you so much for this breakdown. I am big on Vorthos side, and have wanted to dip my toes into a Urza and Yawgmoth deck. I really hope you guys can do a deck tech like this on yawgmoth next.
Yawgmoth is my casual main but I’ve dabbled with some cEDH builds-I just didn’t find that version of the deck interesting. If you do, there’s a great primer on Yawg cEDH in the cEDH decklist database
@@paulmcclain642 I have seen the one deck he has there, It seemed interesting. I wasnt big on the 0 mana creatures other then Memnite, but I do understand the inclusion. Ive had some good success with Gary+Citadel+mortuary+Yawg+Zulaport. Probably to many pieces, but it is a fun drain win.
@@viseman9253 there are a lot of different combos you can pull off it’s really a question of how many cards you want it to be. My version is high powered casual which is basically several 3 card and one 2 card combo without the cEDH fast mana. I typically win turn 4-7 with it. The cEDH version is just a bit faster and lower to the ground. The 0 mana creatures act as sac fodder to get your combos going so they cost less mana total.
I will watch these videos all the time, any time. Please keep them coming! Since now you’ve done a proactive combo deck and a stax/control deck, maybe a midrange/farm deck next?
You forgot to tap witching well for mana the first time mox opal hit the stack. It can be relevant depending on which artifacts you are using to go infinite and how much extra mana you have at the start.
great stuff. would you also be willing to do a video on sisay weatherlight captain? she seems like a very fun commander that can tutor up answers to any situation.
What about stasis+bounce effects? Is that not relevant since they're not artifacts? What about if you know the table is running choke or other island hate?
Dont you exile from your library and then cast from exile with tyrant? Meaning that graftdiggers doesnt stop it? You guys are probably right but I just thought i'd out it out there.
@@nathanmoore3866 I mean you don't actually take 20 minute turns, every single play in the deck is deterministic (apart from the end step sculpt) and you can shortcut every loop
@@nathanmoore3866 that's a fair point, the deck takes a decent amount of magic knowledge to play right. Studying long wordy documents isn't everybody's piece of cake ig haha
You need to do a codie deck tech. Profane Tutor completely broke it! But really ill watch any deck tech you make. I like seeing the ins and outs of any deck.
What do you think about the T@PV? Do you think is a must in the deck? Sometime is in your opening and clearly does nothing while in the late game the number of opponent creatures is limited...
Could more creatures be run in an Urza deck with Enter the Infinite and Thassa's Oracle as the win con while keeping the same control and stax game plan or would that just be a worse version of the deck?
if you miss the tyrant with polymorph its almost a lose, you cannot afford to have other creature in the deck. we would love to play hullbreacher and gilded drake but we dont because of polymorph. you can remove the poly combo if you want more creature in your deck!
@@jinshootingstar Anything "can" be competitive. They recently did an episode with Yeva winning a game. So if Yeva can be deemed competitive, many other decks can be if built correctly.
So I've tried to make an artifact storm build around all the cheerios and could find + Shimmer Myr and Aetherflux Reservoir. How would that work in a cEDH meta?
I’ve been playing this deck for maybe a year now and never liked the tide spout tyrant combo. I always felt like it was just too easy to know when it’s coming. I ended up putting beseiju just to make transmute artifact or other tutors spells stick and make my combo more consistent.
Thats not true. Mostly vulnerable to RoL effects and Cursed Totem. Tidespout however can bounce any stax / hate piece if you have enough cheap spells in your hand.
Me: oooh Urza tips, maybe they can help me make my deck better. Me five minutes in: oh yeah... this is the cedh channel, they're just showing all the stuff I wanted but couldn't afford :[
Arguably everything about this can translate to a lower power level, you just don't get as much free ramp and interaction cards (and the "stax" cards are less oppressive). The polymorph cards, and urza himself, are the only things you absolutely cannot replace. Most everything thing else has some budget alternative.
Spent 7000$ on a urza deck to lose turn 1 or 2 to 400-500$ godo the bandit warlord decks all day everyday save your money just build godo its broken...
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Note about proteus staff that _is_ important vs polymorph: Proteus staff lets you put the stuff on the bottom of your library in *any order*. On the first polymorph this doesn't matter so much, but if you target your tidespout tyrant with that ability, it'll go on the bottom of your library, and then be polymorph'd up to the battlefield, revealing your entire library and allowing you to stack your deck the way you want like a mini doomsday.
I just made the switch to this deck about a month ago and I can see the difference in power level. It's way more consistent.
I would love love love a yisan video cuz I’ve always found him interesting
We need this
But it should be the new yisan variants that are designed to win in turbo naus metas.
Way faster when they need to be and instant speed wins.
Need it been looking into building yisan
Yes plz
I just bought the last few pieces last night and sleeved it up. Great timing!
Yay! My favorite character from the Magic storyline and also one of my favorite commanders!
Love the deck tech videos. A video on the different Kenrith strategies ( stax, turbo, midrange, etc) would be interesting
Great job. I like these deck techs. Would love to see you do one on Kalia of the Vast. Even if you don't keep doing these really learning a lot. Thanks for the great videos.
These videos are very informative and entertaining. Keep it up!
I'm trying to change my Teferi Veil into Urza. Glad this video popped up
How is the process so far? I have a classic Urza Sceptor deck that runs all the expensive cards except Timetwister (I don’t have nor do I intend to spend that much money) and he’s oppressive.
That is my deck :D
I feel like it is more adaptative than disruptive, since sometimes we can combo on turn 3 or even turn 2. Turn 3, 4 or 5 we usually have a decision to combo off or try to disrupt and protect a later combo. Anyway, really good video Ryan!
I'd love to see a Gitrog video in this series! While there are lots of guides for it online, I think it would really be helpful for people who learn verbally (like me!).
Love the vid. i really enjoy these deck techs. Keep it up!
Thank you so much for this breakdown. I am big on Vorthos side, and have wanted to dip my toes into a Urza and Yawgmoth deck. I really hope you guys can do a deck tech like this on yawgmoth next.
Yawgmoth is my casual main but I’ve dabbled with some cEDH builds-I just didn’t find that version of the deck interesting. If you do, there’s a great primer on Yawg cEDH in the cEDH decklist database
@@paulmcclain642 I have seen the one deck he has there, It seemed interesting. I wasnt big on the 0 mana creatures other then Memnite, but I do understand the inclusion. Ive had some good success with Gary+Citadel+mortuary+Yawg+Zulaport. Probably to many pieces, but it is a fun drain win.
@@viseman9253 there are a lot of different combos you can pull off it’s really a question of how many cards you want it to be. My version is high powered casual which is basically several 3 card and one 2 card combo without the cEDH fast mana. I typically win turn 4-7 with it. The cEDH version is just a bit faster and lower to the ground. The 0 mana creatures act as sac fodder to get your combos going so they cost less mana total.
I will watch these videos all the time, any time. Please keep them coming! Since now you’ve done a proactive combo deck and a stax/control deck, maybe a midrange/farm deck next?
You forgot to tap witching well for mana the first time mox opal hit the stack. It can be relevant depending on which artifacts you are using to go infinite and how much extra mana you have at the start.
great stuff. would you also be willing to do a video on sisay weatherlight captain? she seems like a very fun commander that can tutor up answers to any situation.
Next deck tech Tymna//Sakashima stax? Really like these deck techs 👏🏻
Loved the video, thanks!
I didn't understand the Narset's reversal/time twister combo. Can someone explain to me please?
Wow! dis vid helps just started building a urza deck. I run stasis. Bec stasis is love 😈😈😈
Wait.... muddle the mixture is a counterspell?! Lol.
Well it only targets instants and sorceries, so not quite as good as counterspell in regards to diversity. Transmute generally weighs up for that tho.
Hell yes more deck techs 🙏🙏🙏
Love these videos!
Glad you like them!
How do you continually put out such high quality content?
Sleepless nights :)
Ikr? They're like a full tier above other commander channels.
@@PlayingWithPowerMTG we appreciate every video. Bruvac cedh would be a good one.
Would love a deck tech on Jace, Vryns prodigy. trying to get it up and running in 4man edh is harder then i thought.
I would love to see either Thrasios/Vial smasher, selvala storm, or emry!
What about stasis+bounce effects? Is that not relevant since they're not artifacts? What about if you know the table is running choke or other island hate?
It's a lot harder for us to break parity on those types of effects. We have countermagic and bounce in case Island hate is being run.
Is there a reason for running snow-covered basics over regular islands, given that you aren't running extraplanar lens or scrying sheets?
Arcum's Astrolabe
@@TBeanAndTheSundanceQ Ah, good catch!
Also Usually mouth of ronom as a utility removal land
Great video! I was waiting for this, do you think you could make one for gitrog next. Thanks for the great content!
Gitrog please!
We will look into it!
Dont you exile from your library and then cast from exile with tyrant? Meaning that graftdiggers doesnt stop it? You guys are probably right but I just thought i'd out it out there.
Nvm I confused urza's activation with polymorph, dont mind me.
how do you actually win with this deck?
swan songing your own spells for birds then attacking?
Can we see a yidris maelstrom. Welder?
Im about to pick up a gitrog monster deck. Would love to see that mind-boggling monstrosity have a deckteck.
@@nathanmoore3866 its just to have a cedh level deck so i can sit with the higher powered friends. I know its solitaire lol
@@nathanmoore3866 could you elaborate?
@@nathanmoore3866 I mean you don't actually take 20 minute turns, every single play in the deck is deterministic (apart from the end step sculpt) and you can shortcut every loop
@@nathanmoore3866 that's a fair point, the deck takes a decent amount of magic knowledge to play right. Studying long wordy documents isn't everybody's piece of cake ig haha
You need to do a codie deck tech. Profane Tutor completely broke it! But really ill watch any deck tech you make. I like seeing the ins and outs of any deck.
I would like to see The Gitrog Monster. I don't know how one wins with the deck at the cEDH level.
Can we get a $500 budget version please and thank you?
Would love to see a zur stax using season of the witch
Excelente, jogo com esse deck e é bastante divertido!
What do you think about the T@PV? Do you think is a must in the deck? Sometime is in your opening and clearly does nothing while in the late game the number of opponent creatures is limited...
Its a meta call and can be great mana denial against dork heavy metas or deal with najeela. Its not a must tho, especially in a low creature meta.
Could more creatures be run in an Urza deck with Enter the Infinite and Thassa's Oracle as the win con while keeping the same control and stax game plan or would that just be a worse version of the deck?
There are variants of Urza that do run multiple creatures. They lose the Poly Tyrant plan though.
Urzas last ability doesn’t cast it just puts them in play…. I’m totally confused now
Please do Jhoira Weaterligh Captain!
So what’s the power level of this deck?
Nice vid
Blue farm deck tech. Tymna//Kraum
It’d be cool to see a korvold one, otherwise great video
Korvold or gitrog please
I understood everything except the time twister loop 😂 if someone would I explain that to me that would I much appreciated 😅
Can we have tasigur next please, currently brewing him and just need to know more or less a percentage of counterspells and what not
Any thoughts on putting wandering archaic in the deck?
if you miss the tyrant with polymorph its almost a lose, you cannot afford to have other creature in the deck. we would love to play hullbreacher and gilded drake but we dont because of polymorph.
you can remove the poly combo if you want more creature in your deck!
WA is being tested by a few players for the UPS version. You cant play it in PT tho.
How about a Deck Tech on Yarok, The Desecrated???
Not competitive enough. You have way more competitive commander in Sultai colors, like Tasigur.
@@jinshootingstar Anything "can" be competitive. They recently did an episode with Yeva winning a game. So if Yeva can be deemed competitive, many other decks can be if built correctly.
Will you guys do the $100 budget versions as well?
Next vid i hope kykar poly-tyrant and thrasios rograk poly-tyrant. Thx
So I've tried to make an artifact storm build around all the cheerios and could find + Shimmer Myr and Aetherflux Reservoir. How would that work in a cEDH meta?
Jhoira is your best bet for that. Jhoira isn't seen as much currently, but she is still very powerful.
Wait why is Jeweled Amulet good?
u can create a blue mana with your commanders ability and so it is a possible combo card for infinite mana with tyrant and other 0-1 mana artefakt
I want to see Winota
why is the card Witching Well explained in the Combos/Synergies if it is not in the Decklist?
I’ve been playing this deck for maybe a year now and never liked the tide spout tyrant combo. I always felt like it was just too easy to know when it’s coming. I ended up putting beseiju just to make transmute artifact or other tutors spells stick and make my combo more consistent.
Powerful deck, vulnerable to *everything.*
Thats not true. Mostly vulnerable to RoL effects and Cursed Totem. Tidespout however can bounce any stax / hate piece if you have enough cheap spells in your hand.
Personally, I prefer Thrasios + Rograkh polytyrant
#FolgerIsDaddy
Kess plsssss
Me: oooh Urza tips, maybe they can help me make my deck better.
Me five minutes in: oh yeah... this is the cedh channel, they're just showing all the stuff I wanted but couldn't afford :[
Arguably everything about this can translate to a lower power level, you just don't get as much free ramp and interaction cards (and the "stax" cards are less oppressive). The polymorph cards, and urza himself, are the only things you absolutely cannot replace. Most everything thing else has some budget alternative.
Spent 7000$ on a urza deck to lose turn 1 or 2 to 400-500$ godo the bandit warlord decks all day everyday save your money just build godo its broken...