Before I get ragged in the comments... I get that Smartthings owners aren't going to suddenly switch to this. My feeling on the matter is that people new to the market will buy this over Smartthings in a heartbeat. If Tuya move to a completely locally controlled service then it will smash the market wide open. The technology is already there!... I disconnected my broadband and it continued to work for 5 minutes, which means that it is simply a business decision rather than a development isue. I am trying to convince Tuya of the value of a completely local environment now :) BUY ME A BEER Donate to the channel: paypal.me/PaulHibbert Become a monthly contributor on Patreon: www.patreon.com/paulhibbert Use my affiliate link to sign up for Ivacy VPN (who are awesome) here and I will get a kick back at no cost to you :) : bit.ly/2vUnWet
Paul Hibbert I think I will buy it because if I'm not mistaken it works with SONOFF devices as it is on their app list to link to. Any ideas? Still not sure if I should get smart things instead though. Gerry
Hey Paul, you were saying that this hub also connects to the wifi smart devices through the house. I have those sonoff t1 UK switches and I am wondering, can I connect them to this hub in order to free up my current router from so many devices connected? Can you try this out? Thanks mate!
Hi, great video, would surely want to try it out. Will the old 2015 smartthings zigbee devices work with the tuna hub. I was considering getting the new smartthings hub.after watching your video want to give the tuna hub a try.
Codrin Puscaciu I'm also wondering if they do work with the hub as on the ewelink device list the zigbee hub is there so it obviously works that way. Hopefully someone will find out
It looks like this has been pulled off of amazons shelves as it’s a game changer! Thanks for the great vid, I’ve been trying to find a non clunky solution and this is it!
For anybody interested there are already offline Zigbee solutions. I use OpenHAB and Zigbee2MQTT. they run on a Raspberry Pi and can connect to most smart home tech. Zigbee2MQTT can connect o the majority of cheap Zigbee devices and support for new devices is added regularly. It's more complex to get setup but there is plenty of support online and once it's all setup and running you just leave it to it. Using a Sonoff basic relay and a Xioami temp sensor I have made my own smart thermostat controller that works as well as any of the big names at a fraction of the cost. An added bonus is I should never face an issue like the current "Works with Nest" debacle.
How did you only use one sonoff basic to control your hvac system? A sonoff basic only has one relay and the average hvac system needs at least 2 relays to work, 3 if you want to control the fan separately. Plus you would have had to modify (cut traces or if newer sonoff wires) to keep the sonoff from sending voltage to the other side of the sonoff. And i'm assuming you had to flash the firmware to make it work with something like HA. Most people are not going to be able to do what you did. Sorry don't mean to say you didn't just saying a lot of people are not going to be able to go there. What Paul is offering people is a easy and fairly cheap way of controlling there devices.
@@HATipsByLarry I live in the UK with a combi boiler meaning just a single relay is required to turn heating on or off. I flashed the sonoff with Tasmota firmware to allow control via MQTT. Im guessing where you are located the heating controls are more complicated.
@@paulhibbert I had a Drayton Wiser system but it packed up. Drayton support were very helpful but it was taking them a while to work out where the problem was. It was during the last couple of weeks during the cold spot so I wanted my heating to still work. I had some Sonoff Basic's laying around so hooked up one to the boiler as all there smart thermostats are just smart relays when you get right down into it. when you load the Tasmota firmware onto a Sonoff it allows you to plug in extra sensors, bought a simple temp sensor for couple of quid. Finally spent a couple of evenings playing around with code and now have a weekly timer with different modes and boost functions that is wife friendly.That's why I love OpenHAB and the other Raspberry Pi bits, it's reasonably easy to make an extremely powerful solution.
@@GForce2010 Yes that would indeed be the case. I live in the US and in my part of the US it gets up to 46 degrees Celsius (115 degrees Fahrenheit) here in the summer. So Heating and air conditioning is a must. There is a U-tuber that goes by the name DrZzs you might be interested in he flash's most of his automation sensors and switches with Tasmota and uses home assistant to control them. You might already know of him hes pretty popular in the home automation world. I also use a Modified Sonoff basic as well for a garage door opener. With Tasker on my phone and IFTTT triggering the sonoff basic for .5 seconds when my phone connects to my wifi at home it sends a web post to ifttt and the garage door opens automatically. Much more accurate then geo fencing. And i don't even need to flash the sonoff just cut a trace and solder the wires to the sonoff from the button that used to open my garage door and the button on the sonoff can still trigger the garage door manually if needed. Also when i leave and my phone disconnects from my wifi it sends a ifttt web post and closes the garage door automatically (among other things, ie turns off lights enables smartthings home monitor system, ect.)
Yeah. It doesn't look like it's using the sensor to measure the temp. It looks like it's using some weather service. Maybe you would see the sensor in the "device" category when setting up the first condition. I trust Paul can confirm
Hi guys, that was my mistake, I was filming me figuring it out as I went along and I just chose the wrong option. I should have chosen the device and then set my requirements for temperature. I chose the weather option by mistake.
I have a chinese wifi ligt wich also can do RGB. It only works with "magic home/ magic hue app". I cant get it on my smartthings app. Will this help me?
Oh well. I’m in a love/hate relationship with Smartthings. They *could be* so much better, but... For me anyway, nobody gets it completely right. Smartthings is still the best of the bunch. Oh, and your videos are entertaining, no matter what the subject. Big 👍
hello, I would like to know if I can use voice assistant such as Google Assistant to obtain information about the temperature in the room where T&H sensor is located? Thank you!
Ordered one already, I like the integration with Alarm Hosts and Sirens that Tuya provides, hey no need for an expensive alarm panel any more. Level 1 = DIY with a tiny round Wi-Fi siren for GBP 10, here the Zigbee devices can trigger the siren which can be set to on(armed) or off(disarmed) with IFTTT triggering hundreds of sirens around the house which double as temp / humidity sensors for every room. Level 2 = 433 host, same as the round siren but now GBP 20 and hosts much cheaper 433 sensors, now you have the key fob and zones again and home arm vs away arm but will probably need to spend the money you saved on zigbee on a "Tuya IR & RF 433 gateway" ... you pair the 433 sensor twice - once with the gateway and once with the alarm, then maybe you can get the toilet lights to turn on using the 433 sensors at night all using the Tuya app and tuya wall switches with tuya smart light bulbs. Maybe I will stick with ZIgbee sensors and avoid RF 433 completely.
Hi all, I know this is a bit of an old feed now but after buying one of these hub's I'm struggaling to intergrate it into Homm Assistant to see the conected devices I have. The Tuya side of things is not a problem it's the Zigbee side of the Hub I'm looking to see with in Home Assistant. Could anyone point me in the direction of some help please. Thanks
The price does not say much about energy efficiency and reliability. Not that big brands mean that they are useful or good. Trouble is people should be using a common protocol (CoAP or MQTT, depending on application) to connect to the hubs, and use a common app, like Home Assistant.
When i'm shopping on websites like aliexpress, do i always have to search for the 'smartlife / tuya brand' in the pictures or discription when i'm searching for zigbee devices? I've found alot unique zigbee products but not all supports this hub correct? Can i find anywere a compability list or do you want to make a video about it? Because my wifi is flipping with 30 products connected. I think i'll throw my door wifi sensors away and buy some zigbee (smartlife?) versions.
Hi just bought a hub (waiting for the slow boat from China) and realised my TP Link Tapo bulbs ain't gonna work with this. Just want to use pir in bathroom at the mo? What bulb can I buy for bathroom that will work with this hub?
Does this connect directly to the phillips hue hub? I just want a rule , if no motion for 5 mins and the door opens, open living room lights.. i have bought 3 xiaomi gateways, installed domotics and openhab and now burning brain cells to write a complex script on python or lua for just a simple task ... and i haye xiaomi chinese server.. nothing works perfectly
Hi Paul - great video! I can't find this for £33 or anywhere near in the UK. Your links take me to more expensive versions. Is there a model number or similar?
Hey dude, I think their amazon page adds a bit of money on as Amazon is expensive for them. Try the other links (Aliexpress or Zemismart's home page) :)
O.k. so I have 4 of the Tuya 4 gang zigbee switch that was supposed to work with Alexa gen 4 hub but don't. It finds the switch and then pretty much disables it. If I get the Tuya hub can I leave my (so sorry to mention this brand, because I know you absolutely love them 😈) Phillips hue light bulbs connected to the Echo hub or do I need to move everything over to the other hub.
Great video, thanks. We have a HOOBS box and HomeKit. Do you think this Zigbee hub will enable us to connect in our Zigbee dimmer switches (PDL/Schneider Wiser)?
Does it also work with Sonoff basic and Sonoff RF ?... I just received a Samsung Smart thing... only to find out it almost doesn't work with any snart device that I have.. brilliant 😤
You don't need to buy a specific set of devices for one hub. You can just use any zigbee or compatible devices. Zigbee is backwards compatible, so any older version (1, 2) still works. Maybe that device is not zigbee?? Hue/Ikea are normal tradfri and work fine.
Sadly not, they are direct competitors. You could trigger the RM pro via IFTTT using the Tuya security system, but you couldn't add the RM pro to the Smartlife app. Hopefully that makes sense!
hi guys, I would like to know if it's possible to make more complex condition to run some action. Fox example, lux in room is below a treshold AND there is a motion AND door is opend. Thanks
Do you think its a good idea to use the zemismart tuya zigbee hub and smart life app to control all my curtains, sensors, down lights, light bulbs, cameras and garage door (also use Legrand smart home light switches to control lighting). Or should I choose the smart things hub over tuya?
Correct me if I am wrong, I don't think this works offline because it still communicates the automation to the servers online. It looks to work as a passthrough to the automation stored in Tuya. Tuya has a huge expansion of servers across multiple countries, other than China. Likely their upgrade had coincided with when you've started to try these hubs. Pretty sure you would have noticed the numerous servers available when you've played with Tuya Integration into Home Assistant. This is very interesting and makes me wonder about how all the other hubs store automation within their respective hubs. What hubs do you stick with now?
It works offline for at least a day. Not sure why it still needs tuyas server to work long term. Currently I have all of these devices connected to a conbee stick on my Raspberry pi and so have cut tuya out of the equation altogether!
Paid £12 for mine off amazon! Oooooosh!! I’ve read that tradfri bulbs work with these though, just not all the other gubbins that go with them. Will have to order one and see.
Hi Alex, I think you could get that to work via IFTTT, but there may be a slight delay. I would try it out and maybe consider replacing the bulbs later with some Novostellas (they are Tuya/Smartlife bulbs)
Hello. Does "Automations" run without internet? I.e if I have a zigbee motion sensor that turns on my zigbee light. If I dont have internet, will the automation run locally and turn on my light when the motion sensor detects motion ?
Paul - Which one would you suggest either the broadlink PM Pro of this the ZigBee or infact any other. Also in a very large property would I need more than one. It is to control lighting basically and a very limited amount of sound products. Probably using a combination of Google Home and Alexa. Thanks
Not sure if you are aware of this but Tuya devices present a basic web api on your local network on port 6668 and can be controlled locally using Openhab and a free software mqtt gateway or Node-Red. I'd be interested in knowing if this hub presents the same api and so can be integrated with Openhab. Any chance you can check for an open port 6668?
So does this act as a hub for WiFi devices, so they would be off the main network? I have a mesh network so it can handle quite a few devices, but it's quite messy and in the long run I will probably have to many devices. I want a hub for my study devices to connect to that then connects as a single device to my WiFi. Would this work for that?
imagine that temperature sensor connected to a dry chem fire extinguisher .... that would be a great invention an automated fire extinguisher and maybe save alot of lives
I use home assistant and hubitat, which I think useful, but they are a bit complicated and not ready for mainstream consumers.This may be good option. Tuya has servers not only in China but also in US and in Europe, Frankfurt.This May be the reason for quick response. Nice video, I didn’t know this product.
I have watched quite a lot of videos but still don't understand what is the purpose of a hub? Could you please explain? (I'm just starting to make my house smart)
Hello, i have xiaomi (aqara) wireless switch works with zigbee wireless protocol. If i have this hub, can i add my xiaomi switch to this hub ? Thx for answ
Hey Paul, can you please confirm if you can connect xiaomi zigbee devices to the Tuya hub? i'm in the process of replacing my Xiaomi devices and want to know if i need to replace all the zigbee devices.
Any updates? Works for me as you described above. I've used Smart Life devices for a while now and so far I can't get Alexa to see this hub or its subdevices. Any thoughts/recommendations? I can't tell whether this is an Alexa or a Smart Life skill limitation.
Sorry for my English One question: In Xiaomi App I can also connect Tuya, Smart life etc. And it shows my adapters, but I can't use it. Is there a trick? I have also test the software Smart life The software smart life is not good. The options are rudimentary. Example I will use it for my garden irrigation 22:00 on, if it is dry This dont work. but I can use Rain, sun, cloudy etc but I see not which data for this use and it doesn't work. :( it is dry and hot and it the switch don't start. :( I can only use the timer function.
Hey dude. I would recommend checking out my Hubitat video. It is a Zigbee hub that can detect and control and listen to almost any Zigbee device and it has the most complex smart home functionality I've seen. :)
I will buy a zigbee hub. I have August Smart Lock Pro, some sonoff mini, broadlink RM4C mini and RM4 Pro. I will get some curtain motors too. What do I get? Tuya or Smartthings? Lets say price doesn't matter (it does, but I prefer get the best one, even if I have to pay more). Thanks.
Hi paul, got a question for the smart home guru...yes you! I have changed internet providers, I have connected all my google minis to internet but they not working my lights and sockets do I have to reconnect them all as a new device or am I missing something ? Hope you can ease my pain, cheers
Paul. Just tried to order a hub from AliExpress and the seller said it won’t replace a SmartThings hub as only works with tuya products. I have a broken SmartThings hub I’m trying to replace as I have a load of SmartThings products. Please confirm if the tuya hub can replace using the smart life app. Thanks.
4:34 how do you see it is using the device you just added? It looks like it is just getting the temp info from online(because you can set which city your want the temp to be in)
I picked the wrong option like an idiot hahaha. Sorry for the confusion. If I'd picked the device I would have got the same options, but it would use the devices sensors.
I bought a Sonoff Zigbee bridge, now i try to connect a Zigbee bulb bought by Lidl try to connect all with eWlink but it doesn’t work. Did you try it in the past?
does this mean that the tuya hub will restrain stress on my wifi router because it connects to wifi sockets and other wifi products or does it only work as a bridge for eligible zigbee devices? Also would anyone recommend a zigbee usb stick like the cc2531 (zigbe2mqtt) over a regular zigbee hub?
Still going with a hubitat. I want zwave events to trigger http requests so i can do the rest myself. Anything happens to the hub, i can just replace it without having to redo all my scripting.
Hi Paul, I don’t know if someone else already asked this to you...are you going to test Shelly devices? Cheap devices for home automation that don’t require a hub. Your videos are always wonderful:-) you rock!!!!!
Good question! The answer is that I'm not sure. I know you can flash Tasmota to some Tuya stuff, but I don't know enough about it to know whether the right pins are exposed on this thing or how it would see the devices behind it. My guess is that it's probably not possible.
Hi paul love the videos thanks wanted to ask does the tuya zigbee hub work with alexa and google home and plus does zigbee motion sensor can it trigger an automation when no person is detected coz most sensors only trigger scenes when a person is detected
I hope you could start to explore into "home assistant" where you could control almost everything both locally and thru web. By saying through web, I mean all the devices can just go through a single reliable server instead of their individuals'. Please make some tutorials on it because the way you explain things is very easy to understand.
Thanks man. I get this request a lot. It's just finding the time to get into home assistant is difficult when I have a weekly schedule. :( I will give it another go soon!
Not easily because Alexa doesn't have this functionality natively, but check out this video and it will teach you how you can do it with IFTTT! : ruclips.net/video/lYbDNkJjJm4/видео.html
Thanx for answer. Notify me would be perfect for me. Unfortunately it’s not working for europeans.. on alexa routines could be done, but no devices found.. That’s why I’m looking for solution.. tried my luck with home assistant, but after many hours of struggling - gave up..
Are these still worth buying and work with all WiFi products that I connect on smartlife? Also will it take them off my virgin router to stop it having too many devices connected directly just like smartthings does?
So if I just brought a samsung smartthings hub would you recommend me returning it and using this instead, I'm trying to setup a physical button so my daughter can turn her Smart life lights on and off ?
It will take a fair bit of work to do that directly within smarthings alone, although you could set up a smarthings zigbee button to trigger an ifttt automation to tell the tuya lights to turn on or off. (man in the middle) I'm not sure if the Tuya zigbee hub comes with its own button, but if it does and you're just looking for that particular purpose, I would go with the smart life/tuya hub.
I need to confirm or understand that I am mis-understanding. The way you say it, it sounds like you can control smart life devices through this hub. SO I would be able to remove them from the wifi connection and connect them to this hub?
Paul, Can you confirm my question above? Could I move my smart things wifi devices off my wifi and have them controlled by this hub instead? My router is having fits but I also don't own a bunch of Zigbee stuff and don't have the money to go purchase a bunch of new stuff.
Hi mate, the hub is to add Zigbee functionality to the existing smartlife setup you have, so it adds a brand new function rather than alleviates an existing function. If you want to take the strain off your Wifi network you'll need a better Wifi router, this one is apparently absolutely amazing and can handle more wifi devices than you'll ever own: amzn.to/2WgSs1W :)
@@paulhibbert Got mine in. Connected to SmartLife super fast and easy but It doesn't want to connect with Sylvania (Osram) Smart bulbs either unless there is a trick to it. I have a Sengled bulb coming in tomorrow to test. If these don't work either I think this may not be the hub for me. I want to clean up my wifi connections but I can't afford to buy all new smart devices at double or triple the price of wifi devices to get zigbee devices.
Hey man, osram and sengled have their own app I think. I don't think they're Tuya based in any way sadly. Those novostella bulbs I reviewed the other day would be ideal, but totally understand you probably don't want to swap it all out. Not sure if sengled and osram have an ifttt service? If so yku could link them that way instead!
Hi Paul, Do you still think this hub is the best bang for the buck so to speak? Looking at starting my home automation journey and while from a tech background have not got passed Hive heating and Echo's + Sonos devices.
Paul, I'm a big fan of your videos. I watch your videos everytime. I'm from Nigeria. I have a question concerning the Tuya Zigbee hub. When you setup automations using zigbee sensors and switches, does your automations still work if your internet goes down? I.e will my automations be processed locally because I have a tuya zigbee hub ?
Where did you get the number 20 for the maximum number of devices that can connect to a router? Most wireless access points and wireless routers can theoretically have 255 devices connected at a time. I know there could be a congestion problem when you get close to 200 devices, but still no where near the 20 devices you stated.
I have 36 devices right now and my router is not happy. I have constant issues connecting with different PCs, phones and smart devices. Which is why I just ordered one of these hubs.
20 is an estimate based on the experience of a lot of viewers and my own personal experience. Each situation will vary depending on how much wireless interference your neighbours are kicking out among other things. I personally have reached a stage where I'm looking to invest in a ubiquiti router. I'm just over the 20 mark, and I get stuff to review all the time. It can be a nightmare to film sometimes!
Paul Hibbert Mabe WiFi6 can be a sollution. Linus tech tips did a video about it and if I remmember it good it should support more devices connected at the same time.
Hrvoje Lasic 20 is not that much if you live with 4 persons. Example:every person has a phone and a laptop that is already 8. then we have a tv, ps4, another tv, wiiu and things like Alexa, smartthings and Harmony so that is 14 we still have 6 place left but if you for example would buy lights, camera or switches that connect trough WiFi you would get there fast.
Hi Paul love the channel. My kit arrived today hub recognised by smart life app and added but can i for the life of me get it to connect to any of Smart Life plug sockets under add sub device any advice?
I know this comment is like a year old now, but your sockets will be wifi, and need to be added directly to the app, not through the hub. But I’m guessing you’ve already figured this out?
Interesting stuff...and a new place to look for gadgets :) Do you happen to know if there are any Zigbee switches that can send an on/off message as well as turn lights in/off... got a couple of places where I have smart ceiling lamps which need power always on, but partner wants a physical switch
For Smartlife there are lots of Wifi switches like this one: www.aliexpress.com/item/Lonsonho-Smart-Wifi-Switch-Tuya-Smart-Life-App-EU-UK-1-2-3-Gang-Smart-Wall/32996607018.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.2.311e5f15xPKcp0&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_9_10065_10130_10068_10547_319_317_10548_10696_10192_10190_453_10084_454_10083_10618_10307_10820_10301_10821_10303_537_536_10059_10884_10887_321_322_10103,searchweb201603_51,ppcSwitch_0&algo_expid=cd61476e-e32f-44a7-b469-0f8ccf8077f7-0&algo_pvid=cd61476e-e32f-44a7-b469-0f8ccf8077f7&transAbTest=ae803_5 But no Zigbee yet. If you're wanting a Zigbee switch specifically then Xiaomi Aqara is probably a better option :)
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Thanks as always man!!! :D
dear, tuya zigbee hub with sensors are a secure kit. it can't work with other wifi items directly,it can trigger tuya wifi devices.
Before I get ragged in the comments... I get that Smartthings owners aren't going to suddenly switch to this. My feeling on the matter is that people new to the market will buy this over Smartthings in a heartbeat. If Tuya move to a completely locally controlled service then it will smash the market wide open. The technology is already there!... I disconnected my broadband and it continued to work for 5 minutes, which means that it is simply a business decision rather than a development isue. I am trying to convince Tuya of the value of a completely local environment now :)
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Paul Hibbert I think I will buy it because if I'm not mistaken it works with SONOFF devices as it is on their app list to link to. Any ideas? Still not sure if I should get smart things instead though. Gerry
Hey Paul, you were saying that this hub also connects to the wifi smart devices through the house. I have those sonoff t1 UK switches and I am wondering, can I connect them to this hub in order to free up my current router from so many devices connected? Can you try this out? Thanks mate!
Hi, great video, would surely want to try it out. Will the old 2015 smartthings zigbee devices work with the tuna hub. I was considering getting the new smartthings hub.after watching your video want to give the tuna hub a try.
Codrin Puscaciu I'm also wondering if they do work with the hub as on the ewelink device list the zigbee hub is there so it obviously works that way. Hopefully someone will find out
I've not tried this. I would be amazed if it worked as they are competitors. Do you have a link to where you've see the link in the app list?
It looks like this has been pulled off of amazons shelves as it’s a game changer! Thanks for the great vid, I’ve been trying to find a non clunky solution and this is it!
For anybody interested there are already offline Zigbee solutions. I use OpenHAB and Zigbee2MQTT. they run on a Raspberry Pi and can connect to most smart home tech. Zigbee2MQTT can connect o the majority of cheap Zigbee devices and support for new devices is added regularly. It's more complex to get setup but there is plenty of support online and once it's all setup and running you just leave it to it. Using a Sonoff basic relay and a Xioami temp sensor I have made my own smart thermostat controller that works as well as any of the big names at a fraction of the cost. An added bonus is I should never face an issue like the current "Works with Nest" debacle.
How did you only use one sonoff basic to control your hvac system? A sonoff basic only has one relay and the average hvac system needs at least 2 relays to work, 3 if you want to control the fan separately. Plus you would have had to modify (cut traces or if newer sonoff wires) to keep the sonoff from sending voltage to the other side of the sonoff. And i'm assuming you had to flash the firmware to make it work with something like HA. Most people are not going to be able to do what you did. Sorry don't mean to say you didn't just saying a lot of people are not going to be able to go there. What Paul is offering people is a easy and fairly cheap way of controlling there devices.
@@HATipsByLarry I live in the UK with a combi boiler meaning just a single relay is required to turn heating on or off. I flashed the sonoff with Tasmota firmware to allow control via MQTT. Im guessing where you are located the heating controls are more complicated.
Nice one dude. Sounds like an awesome setup! :)
@@paulhibbert I had a Drayton Wiser system but it packed up. Drayton support were very helpful but it was taking them a while to work out where the problem was. It was during the last couple of weeks during the cold spot so I wanted my heating to still work. I had some Sonoff Basic's laying around so hooked up one to the boiler as all there smart thermostats are just smart relays when you get right down into it. when you load the Tasmota firmware onto a Sonoff it allows you to plug in extra sensors, bought a simple temp sensor for couple of quid. Finally spent a couple of evenings playing around with code and now have a weekly timer with different modes and boost functions that is wife friendly.That's why I love OpenHAB and the other Raspberry Pi bits, it's reasonably easy to make an extremely powerful solution.
@@GForce2010 Yes that would indeed be the case. I live in the US and in my part of the US it gets up to 46 degrees Celsius (115 degrees Fahrenheit) here in the summer. So Heating and air conditioning is a must. There is a U-tuber that goes by the name DrZzs you might be interested in he flash's most of his automation sensors and switches with Tasmota and uses home assistant to control them. You might already know of him hes pretty popular in the home automation world. I also use a Modified Sonoff basic as well for a garage door opener. With Tasker on my phone and IFTTT triggering the sonoff basic for .5 seconds when my phone connects to my wifi at home it sends a web post to ifttt and the garage door opens automatically. Much more accurate then geo fencing. And i don't even need to flash the sonoff just cut a trace and solder the wires to the sonoff from the button that used to open my garage door and the button on the sonoff can still trigger the garage door manually if needed. Also when i leave and my phone disconnects from my wifi it sends a ifttt web post and closes the garage door automatically (among other things, ie turns off lights enables smartthings home monitor system, ect.)
Hi Paul.
Had any response on your email regarding the need for internet connection?
Any news?
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"FISH TANK", how very dare you, the word is aquarium. Thank you for the wonderful videos.
Haha, thanks dood!
4:35 judging by "Temperature > Current City" it's not a rule that uses the sensor's temperature but the outside temperature from a weather service
Yeah. It doesn't look like it's using the sensor to measure the temp. It looks like it's using some weather service.
Maybe you would see the sensor in the "device" category when setting up the first condition.
I trust Paul can confirm
Hi guys, that was my mistake, I was filming me figuring it out as I went along and I just chose the wrong option. I should have chosen the device and then set my requirements for temperature. I chose the weather option by mistake.
@@paulhibbert it's ok, happens to all of us. :) I just wanted to clarify it! Thanks for responding!
Can I use this to integrate Xiaomi Mijia Smoke Alarm with my Tuya devices ?
Any update about local control ?
Paul, did you ever hear back from Tuya?
I have a chinese wifi ligt wich also can do RGB. It only works with "magic home/ magic hue app". I cant get it on my smartthings app. Will this help me?
you are awesome, dude! Love your videos, informative and entertaining.
Can I connect any bulbs to it or just zigbee ones? I was thinking about xiaomi yeelight or kasa bulbs
When you say "33 pound zigbee hub" I start thinking freedom units, since I'm on this side of the pond, and that's one heavy SOB!
Freedom units is a stupid name used by a population stuck in the past
Oh well. I’m in a love/hate relationship with Smartthings. They *could be* so much better, but... For me anyway, nobody gets it completely right. Smartthings is still the best of the bunch. Oh, and your videos are entertaining, no matter what the subject. Big 👍
Hi, thanks for ur well informative vdo. Just a quick question, can I use xiaomi body n door sensors with that hub please?
hello, I would like to know if I can use voice assistant such as Google Assistant to obtain information about the temperature in the room where T&H sensor is located? Thank you!
Mine works like that, I can just ask Alexa 'what's the kitchen sensor temperature' and it tells me. But that's via Smart Things.
The Tuya Zigbee Gateway is available for GBP 17 on AliExpress with free shipping to the UK
Ordered one already, I like the integration with Alarm Hosts and Sirens that Tuya provides, hey no need for an expensive alarm panel any more. Level 1 = DIY with a tiny round Wi-Fi siren for GBP 10, here the Zigbee devices can trigger the siren which can be set to on(armed) or off(disarmed) with IFTTT triggering hundreds of sirens around the house which double as temp / humidity sensors for every room. Level 2 = 433 host, same as the round siren but now GBP 20 and hosts much cheaper 433 sensors, now you have the key fob and zones again and home arm vs away arm but will probably need to spend the money you saved on zigbee on a "Tuya IR & RF 433 gateway" ... you pair the 433 sensor twice - once with the gateway and once with the alarm, then maybe you can get the toilet lights to turn on using the 433 sensors at night all using the Tuya app and tuya wall switches with tuya smart light bulbs.
Maybe I will stick with ZIgbee sensors and avoid RF 433 completely.
Hi all, I know this is a bit of an old feed now but after buying one of these hub's I'm struggaling to intergrate it into Homm Assistant to see the conected devices I have. The Tuya side of things is not a problem it's the Zigbee side of the Hub I'm looking to see with in Home Assistant. Could anyone point me in the direction of some help please. Thanks
There are USB Zigbee sniffers that work with Home Assistant. Some need flashing tho.
The price does not say much about energy efficiency and reliability.
Not that big brands mean that they are useful or good.
Trouble is people should be using a common protocol (CoAP or MQTT, depending on application) to connect to the hubs, and use a common app, like Home Assistant.
Compare to Aqara ecosystem which one is better? Thanks!
When i'm shopping on websites like aliexpress, do i always have to search for the 'smartlife / tuya brand' in the pictures or discription when i'm searching for zigbee devices? I've found alot unique zigbee products but not all supports this hub correct? Can i find anywere a compability list or do you want to make a video about it?
Because my wifi is flipping with 30 products connected. I think i'll throw my door wifi sensors away and buy some zigbee (smartlife?) versions.
I want to know the answer to this as well
Me too
Hi just bought a hub (waiting for the slow boat from China) and realised my TP Link Tapo bulbs ain't gonna work with this. Just want to use pir in bathroom at the mo? What bulb can I buy for bathroom that will work with this hub?
Does this connect directly to the phillips hue hub? I just want a rule , if no motion for 5 mins and the door opens, open living room lights.. i have bought 3 xiaomi gateways, installed domotics and openhab and now burning brain cells to write a complex script on python or lua for just a simple task ... and i haye xiaomi chinese server.. nothing works perfectly
How can you setup the zigbee hub and is there a zigbee tablet?
Can you connect the sensors to Google Home so that you could trigger a lamp when the door sensor is open? For example?
Can I connect the lamps that are supported, straight to the zigbee gateway, so I don't have to connect them on my WiFi network?
Hi Paul - great video! I can't find this for £33 or anywhere near in the UK. Your links take me to more expensive versions. Is there a model number or similar?
£33 on www.zemismart.com if you change currency to GBP
Hey dude, I think their amazon page adds a bit of money on as Amazon is expensive for them. Try the other links (Aliexpress or Zemismart's home page) :)
@@paulhibbert Thanks Paul - you're a hero!!
O.k. so I have 4 of the Tuya 4 gang zigbee switch that was supposed to work with Alexa gen 4 hub but don't. It finds the switch and then pretty much disables it. If I get the Tuya hub can I leave my (so sorry to mention this brand, because I know you absolutely love them 😈) Phillips hue light bulbs connected to the Echo hub or do I need to move everything over to the other hub.
Great video, thanks. We have a HOOBS box and HomeKit. Do you think this Zigbee hub will enable us to connect in our Zigbee dimmer switches (PDL/Schneider Wiser)?
Does it also work with Sonoff basic and Sonoff RF ?... I just received a Samsung Smart thing... only to find out it almost doesn't work with any snart device that I have.. brilliant 😤
You don't need to buy a specific set of devices for one hub. You can just use any zigbee or compatible devices.
Zigbee is backwards compatible, so any older version (1, 2) still works.
Maybe that device is not zigbee?? Hue/Ikea are normal tradfri and work fine.
Hi Paul, thanks again for the review of that Zigbee set. Would I be able to connect my RM pro to it though? Thanks
Good question, I would like to know this too.
Sadly not, they are direct competitors. You could trigger the RM pro via IFTTT using the Tuya security system, but you couldn't add the RM pro to the Smartlife app. Hopefully that makes sense!
hi guys, I would like to know if it's possible to make more complex condition to run some action. Fox example, lux in room is below a treshold AND there is a motion AND door is opend. Thanks
Great video! Any suggestions for zigbee buttons that'll work with this hub in the smart life app? All I'm seeing are ST and Xiaomi buttons
What was the outcome with that email?
Do you think its a good idea to use the zemismart tuya zigbee hub and smart life app to control all my curtains, sensors, down lights, light bulbs, cameras and garage door (also use Legrand smart home light switches to control lighting). Or should I choose the smart things hub over tuya?
Correct me if I am wrong, I don't think this works offline because it still communicates the automation to the servers online.
It looks to work as a passthrough to the automation stored in Tuya.
Tuya has a huge expansion of servers across multiple countries, other than China. Likely their upgrade had coincided with when you've started to try these hubs. Pretty sure you would have noticed the numerous servers available when you've played with Tuya Integration into Home Assistant.
This is very interesting and makes me wonder about how all the other hubs store automation within their respective hubs. What hubs do you stick with now?
It works offline for at least a day. Not sure why it still needs tuyas server to work long term.
Currently I have all of these devices connected to a conbee stick on my Raspberry pi and so have cut tuya out of the equation altogether!
Paid £12 for mine off amazon! Oooooosh!! I’ve read that tradfri bulbs work with these though, just not all the other gubbins that go with them. Will have to order one and see.
Will this work with Tp link lights and switches? Love my WiFi bulbs and switches but really want to get some sensors.
Hi Alex, I think you could get that to work via IFTTT, but there may be a slight delay. I would try it out and maybe consider replacing the bulbs later with some Novostellas (they are Tuya/Smartlife bulbs)
Paul Hibbert think I may just wait for my WiFi lights to die and then look to see what's good. Probably going to end up jumping onto smartthings
Can the temperature sensor trigger hive to turn the heating on?
Hello. Does "Automations" run without internet? I.e if I have a zigbee motion sensor that turns on my zigbee light. If I dont have internet, will the automation run locally and turn on my light when the motion sensor detects motion ?
Paul - Which one would you suggest either the broadlink PM Pro of this the ZigBee or infact any other. Also in a very large property would I need more than one. It is to control lighting basically and a very limited amount of sound products. Probably using a combination of Google Home and Alexa. Thanks
Been having issues with router connecting bulbs will this add wifi bulbs to it that i own
Not sure if you are aware of this but Tuya devices present a basic web api on your local network on port 6668 and can be controlled locally using Openhab and a free software mqtt gateway or Node-Red. I'd be interested in knowing if this hub presents the same api and so can be integrated with Openhab. Any chance you can check for an open port 6668?
Does it have the same functionality with xiaomi gateway?
So does this act as a hub for WiFi devices, so they would be off the main network? I have a mesh network so it can handle quite a few devices, but it's quite messy and in the long run I will probably have to many devices. I want a hub for my study devices to connect to that then connects as a single device to my WiFi. Would this work for that?
imagine that temperature sensor connected to a dry chem fire extinguisher .... that would be a great invention an automated fire extinguisher and maybe save alot of lives
I use home assistant and hubitat, which I think useful, but they are a bit complicated and not ready for mainstream consumers.This may be good option. Tuya has servers not only in China but also in US and in Europe, Frankfurt.This May be the reason for quick response. Nice video, I didn’t know this product.
Thanks dude! Yeah, I love my hubitat, but like you say, this is far more mainstream :)
I have watched quite a lot of videos but still don't understand what is the purpose of a hub? Could you please explain? (I'm just starting to make my house smart)
Where can I get the moon lamp?
Hello, i have xiaomi (aqara) wireless switch works with zigbee wireless protocol. If i have this hub, can i add my xiaomi switch to this hub ? Thx for answ
Quick Question on this, I have Avatar smart bulbs and plugs, will this operate them better than just my router?
No sellers are currently delivering this item to the United States.
You can get it from there website to usa
Try Aliexpress, or the Zemismart links instead :)
Hey Paul, can you please confirm if you can connect xiaomi zigbee devices to the Tuya hub? i'm in the process of replacing my Xiaomi devices and want to know if i need to replace all the zigbee devices.
Have you see te Eufy Genie speaker wit Alexa? Cheap Dot alternative but no bluetooth.
My craft-store wifi bulbs are olso tuya smart life based.
Jay! Now i can use it with zigbee!
Any updates? Works for me as you described above. I've used Smart Life devices for a while now and so far I can't get Alexa to see this hub or its subdevices. Any thoughts/recommendations? I can't tell whether this is an Alexa or a Smart Life skill limitation.
Hi Paul, still doesnt work with Ikea Trådfri? Looking for a cheap hub to control tradfri things in Alexa! Should I go for the ikea gateway instead??
Does this thing work with the aqara sensors and such?
Have you ever used the Aurora aone stuff?
Sorry for my English
One question:
In Xiaomi App I can also connect Tuya, Smart life etc. And it shows my adapters, but I can't use it. Is there a trick?
I have also test the software Smart life
The software smart life is not good.
The options are rudimentary. Example
I will use it for my garden irrigation
22:00 on, if it is dry
This dont work.
but I can use Rain, sun, cloudy etc but I see not which data for this use and it doesn't work. :( it is dry and hot and it the switch don't start. :( I can only use the timer function.
Hey dude. I would recommend checking out my Hubitat video. It is a Zigbee hub that can detect and control and listen to almost any Zigbee device and it has the most complex smart home functionality I've seen. :)
I will buy a zigbee hub. I have August Smart Lock Pro, some sonoff mini, broadlink RM4C mini and RM4 Pro. I will get some curtain motors too. What do I get? Tuya or Smartthings? Lets say price doesn't matter (it does, but I prefer get the best one, even if I have to pay more). Thanks.
Can connect with wall switch that works with RF signal?
Hi paul, got a question for the smart home guru...yes you! I have changed internet providers, I have connected all my google minis to internet but they not working my lights and sockets do I have to reconnect them all as a new device or am I missing something ?
Hope you can ease my pain, cheers
does it work now without internet?
Paul. Just tried to order a hub from AliExpress and the seller said it won’t replace a SmartThings hub as only works with tuya products.
I have a broken SmartThings hub I’m trying to replace as I have a load of SmartThings products. Please confirm if the tuya hub can replace using the smart life app. Thanks.
It won't. It only works woth it's own devices. If you're looking for a Smartthings alternative then check out my videos on hubitat and homey. 😊
Does Sonoff work with this hub, i got like 20 Sonoff basic's in my home and i dont want to cacrifice the internet connection
4:34 how do you see it is using the device you just added? It looks like it is just getting the temp info from online(because you can set which city your want the temp to be in)
I picked the wrong option like an idiot hahaha. Sorry for the confusion. If I'd picked the device I would have got the same options, but it would use the devices sensors.
So it works with ikea and xiaomi sensors but not with sonoff?
So you would suggest this over smart things hub if you don't have a hub yet? I'm just getting started and want to get a hub
I bought a Sonoff Zigbee bridge, now i try to connect a Zigbee bulb bought by Lidl try to connect all with eWlink but it doesn’t work. Did you try it in the past?
I have two Lidl bulbs connected via this hub. They work, but are NOT discoverable with Alexa
Any news on more hubs that are universal
Paul, would my currently bought bulbs work as they are not zigbee bulbs.
does this mean that the tuya hub will restrain stress on my wifi router because it connects to wifi sockets and other wifi products or does it only work as a bridge for eligible zigbee devices?
Also would anyone recommend a zigbee usb stick like the cc2531 (zigbe2mqtt) over a regular zigbee hub?
Still going with a hubitat. I want zwave events to trigger http requests so i can do the rest myself. Anything happens to the hub, i can just replace it without having to redo all my scripting.
Hubitat is amazing :D
@@paulhibbert I hope so, it's still waiting for customs processing and I have to manually switch on and off the lights like a caveman!
Hi Paul, I don’t know if someone else already asked this to you...are you going to test Shelly devices? Cheap devices for home automation that don’t require a hub. Your videos are always wonderful:-) you rock!!!!!
Dear Paul, is it possible to control tuya devices with amazon echo plus integrared hub? I don't want to buy another zigbee hub..:(
Will this Interface with home Assistant Though ?
Good question! The answer is that I'm not sure. I know you can flash Tasmota to some Tuya stuff, but I don't know enough about it to know whether the right pins are exposed on this thing or how it would see the devices behind it. My guess is that it's probably not possible.
compatible with sonoff light switches and other sonoff switches?
Not available on US amazon??
Hi paul love the videos thanks wanted to ask does the tuya zigbee hub work with alexa and google home and plus does zigbee motion sensor can it trigger an automation when no person is detected coz most sensors only trigger scenes when a person is detected
I hope you could start to explore into "home assistant" where you could control almost everything both locally and thru web. By saying through web, I mean all the devices can just go through a single reliable server instead of their individuals'. Please make some tutorials on it because the way you explain things is very easy to understand.
Thanks man. I get this request a lot. It's just finding the time to get into home assistant is difficult when I have a weekly schedule. :( I will give it another go soon!
Is it possible to trigger alexa with sensor with this thing?
Not easily because Alexa doesn't have this functionality natively, but check out this video and it will teach you how you can do it with IFTTT! : ruclips.net/video/lYbDNkJjJm4/видео.html
Thanx for answer. Notify me would be perfect for me. Unfortunately it’s not working for europeans.. on alexa routines could be done, but no devices found.. That’s why I’m looking for solution.. tried my luck with home assistant, but after many hours of struggling - gave up..
Did anyone manage to get the Wifi devices connected?? I can only get ZigBee devices to work??
Are these still worth buying and work with all WiFi products that I connect on smartlife? Also will it take them off my virgin router to stop it having too many devices connected directly just like smartthings does?
And is this the same product? www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07WNJ7PZS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_5f7vFbHZZ0FAK
Hi Paul if the device is from a different manufacture but supports Tuya smart life.Will it work?
Lots of manufacturers make stuff with tuya chips in. As long as it has a tuya chip it will be compatible 😊
@@paulhibbert thank you
So if I just brought a samsung smartthings hub would you recommend me returning it and using this instead, I'm trying to setup a physical button so my daughter can turn her Smart life lights on and off ?
It will take a fair bit of work to do that directly within smarthings alone, although you could set up a smarthings zigbee button to trigger an ifttt automation to tell the tuya lights to turn on or off. (man in the middle) I'm not sure if the Tuya zigbee hub comes with its own button, but if it does and you're just looking for that particular purpose, I would go with the smart life/tuya hub.
I need to confirm or understand that I am mis-understanding. The way you say it, it sounds like you can control smart life devices through this hub. SO I would be able to remove them from the wifi connection and connect them to this hub?
Paul, Can you confirm my question above? Could I move my smart things wifi devices off my wifi and have them controlled by this hub instead? My router is having fits but I also don't own a bunch of Zigbee stuff and don't have the money to go purchase a bunch of new stuff.
Hi mate, the hub is to add Zigbee functionality to the existing smartlife setup you have, so it adds a brand new function rather than alleviates an existing function. If you want to take the strain off your Wifi network you'll need a better Wifi router, this one is apparently absolutely amazing and can handle more wifi devices than you'll ever own: amzn.to/2WgSs1W :)
@@paulhibbert Got mine in. Connected to SmartLife super fast and easy but It doesn't want to connect with Sylvania (Osram) Smart bulbs either unless there is a trick to it. I have a Sengled bulb coming in tomorrow to test. If these don't work either I think this may not be the hub for me. I want to clean up my wifi connections but I can't afford to buy all new smart devices at double or triple the price of wifi devices to get zigbee devices.
Hey man, osram and sengled have their own app I think. I don't think they're Tuya based in any way sadly. Those novostella bulbs I reviewed the other day would be ideal, but totally understand you probably don't want to swap it all out. Not sure if sengled and osram have an ifttt service? If so yku could link them that way instead!
Hi Paul, Do you still think this hub is the best bang for the buck so to speak? Looking at starting my home automation journey and while from a tech background have not got passed Hive heating and Echo's + Sonos devices.
Paul, I'm a big fan of your videos. I watch your videos everytime. I'm from Nigeria. I have a question concerning the Tuya Zigbee hub. When you setup automations using zigbee sensors and switches, does your automations still work if your internet goes down? I.e will my automations be processed locally because I have a tuya zigbee hub ?
Do you know if I connect ikea tradfri and Xiaomi products with it?
No. Sadly this device only works with tuya products at present. I'm hoping they update it to work with more things.
Where did you get the number 20 for the maximum number of devices that can connect to a router? Most wireless access points and wireless routers can theoretically have 255 devices connected at a time. I know there could be a congestion problem when you get close to 200 devices, but still no where near the 20 devices you stated.
in real life 20 devices is a lot. 200 devices is practically impossible.
I have 36 devices right now and my router is not happy. I have constant issues connecting with different PCs, phones and smart devices. Which is why I just ordered one of these hubs.
20 is an estimate based on the experience of a lot of viewers and my own personal experience. Each situation will vary depending on how much wireless interference your neighbours are kicking out among other things. I personally have reached a stage where I'm looking to invest in a ubiquiti router. I'm just over the 20 mark, and I get stuff to review all the time. It can be a nightmare to film sometimes!
Paul Hibbert Mabe WiFi6 can be a sollution. Linus tech tips did a video about it and if I remmember it good it should support more devices connected at the same time.
Hrvoje Lasic 20 is not that much if you live with 4 persons. Example:every person has a phone and a laptop that is already 8. then we have a tv, ps4, another tv, wiiu and things like Alexa, smartthings and Harmony so that is 14 we still have 6 place left but if you for example would buy lights, camera or switches that connect trough WiFi you would get there fast.
Hi Paul love the channel. My kit arrived today hub recognised by smart life app and added but can i for the life of me get it to connect to any of Smart Life plug sockets under add sub device any advice?
I know this comment is like a year old now, but your sockets will be wifi, and need to be added directly to the app, not through the hub. But I’m guessing you’ve already figured this out?
That could be good I could get rid of my ewelink then as that goes to china as well but will it work with my sonoff devices?
Sadly not dude. Sorry. The goal of this device is to add zigbee support to Tuya smartlife WiFi devices.
can the echo plus with build-in zigbee take over the job of this hub ?
It will do eventually!
hi paul just watched your video on nest thermostst.was thinking about gettine one are they still good to use with alexa.thanks mark
Interesting stuff...and a new place to look for gadgets :) Do you happen to know if there are any Zigbee switches that can send an on/off message as well as turn lights in/off... got a couple of places where I have smart ceiling lamps which need power always on, but partner wants a physical switch
For Smartlife there are lots of Wifi switches like this one: www.aliexpress.com/item/Lonsonho-Smart-Wifi-Switch-Tuya-Smart-Life-App-EU-UK-1-2-3-Gang-Smart-Wall/32996607018.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.2.311e5f15xPKcp0&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_9_10065_10130_10068_10547_319_317_10548_10696_10192_10190_453_10084_454_10083_10618_10307_10820_10301_10821_10303_537_536_10059_10884_10887_321_322_10103,searchweb201603_51,ppcSwitch_0&algo_expid=cd61476e-e32f-44a7-b469-0f8ccf8077f7-0&algo_pvid=cd61476e-e32f-44a7-b469-0f8ccf8077f7&transAbTest=ae803_5
But no Zigbee yet. If you're wanting a Zigbee switch specifically then Xiaomi Aqara is probably a better option :)
did amazon echo and google home saw the zigbee devices or no or simply the hub which u cant do anything like hey google is my door open