@@EggsceptionalAlso! Beat up uses the users raw attack stat versus the target's raw defense stat. Without implimenting any modifiers like EV's or IV's.
@@bananaspice1967 Oh it's the raw stat! I was trying to figure it out quickly scrolling through Bulbapedia, but then I figured - I'm not using it let's just move on. Thanks for clearing it up. I'll keep it in the back of my mind for team challenges :)
This is the first video of yours I've seen and I am a big fan. Your play-by-play commentary feels very uptempo, almost like listening to sports radio. This was great!
I appreciate it! I find that I must put a lot of energy into them because I'm usually sweating after recording a batch. Glad to hear you're enjoying the videos! I hope you can find the time to check out some others :) thanks!
Lets go Arbok! Now to watch the video~ Edit: Man that was a wild ride. Glad my favourite Gen 1 Pokemon won this race, but man I thought after that first round for Seviper that it would be a way bigger win in the end. Great job as always on these videos man!
For subscriber specials what about a video about how to cook different eggs? There’s 100+ ways. :) Yolks aside though, I’m glad to see this every week. Turns my bad days sunny side up. ❤
I appreciate you :) You may know 100 different ways to cook eggs but I know.. like.. 7? I'm so happy I can make your over-hard days that little bit easier!
@@chefgrizz6284 There might be something there for Mew/Celebi since they have 100 base stats in everything. I will definitely pick your brain for eggs :)
That Round 2 elite four was ROUGH. Glad Seviper was able to improve its time so much, especially with how rough the first playthrough was. Keep up the good work!
@@Eggsceptional thank ya, dude! I had to work, but now I'm off for a few days. Anyway, yeah they're kinda tough to get going. I'm surprised neither got like a regional form or anything within the last few generations. Also a shame Arbok didn't make it higher on the list. Then again, under gen 3 mechanics and being a poison-type, it didn't have a lot going for it to begin with. The design is still rad.
@@CasualVideoGamer It's true. I've always liked the colouring of Arbok. And that it's Ekans/snakE, Arbok, kobrA. Clever. I felt it all came down to that R2 league and the Earthquakes. That's what required being at SUCH a high level in both runs, particularly Seviper. Glad to hear you've got some time to relax!
Made it all the way to the end as Arbok is my favorite Pokemon and Seviper is another top pick (hence why I own 2 snakes irl) and once I heard you’re a fellow cat dad I immediately subbed! Keep up the awesome content, great to find someone else with great taste in pets and Pokémon!
I'd never played with either of the snakes before these runs! That R2 league sure was... instructional. Pets and Pokémon! They're what reveals a person's true character! Thanks :)
Thanks my friend! I need to check out that Ditto video you just released still :) I can't even imagine. You're going through the high pain part of the Dex it seems.
@@Eggsceptional yeah but anything after Ditto it's going to seem like a a brisk walk in the park. The next one is Evie that's going to be a task but after that a lot of them really are set up to have some pretty fun runs
@@jdsnerdverse Oh I bet Eevee is going to feel like Mewtwo after running Ditto! But yes, you're getting to that part of the Dex that's getting pretty stacked with powerhouses. That's going to feel good finally blasting through the game super quickly.
I love that you do the round 2 league, i really don't see that a lot among the pokemon youtubers. I know it's way more work for you, but know that it is very much appreciated!
It was on my 4th video that I pushed into the R2 league and I absolutely fell in love. Any run that left out the R2 league, no matter how enjoyable it was, always left me wondering about R2. I couldn't help myself :)
your battle videos seem to always garner about twice as many views. is it twice the work?^^ hope your numbers climb! i watch many "challenge" type youtubers, but ur the most chill, and the one i enjoy the most!
It's not quite twice the work but it is quite a bit more. This was roughly a 75 hour project to complete which considering my goal is to release weekly - it's a lot of time investment :P I appreciate you saying that thank you :) Every day the channel grows a little bit more!
@@franz009franz I have! I have one collab that's half in the works half not with one creator, and then Scott Thoughts and I will likely be organizing a collab early 2024. We're both currently buried in production until the New Year :) Plus now that I have the new computer sharing footage is easier from what I've learned. Scott and I both record at 240 FPS now, I wasn't able to before.
@@franz009franz Scott's Thoughts was the one that inspired me to finally start making my own content. I should like to think we're similar :P That man is the genuine article too. So kind!
Commenting mid-video and loving it so far! I think they will both finish around 60 given their supreme move pool and decent stats. Always loved Seviper and rarely used them in my playthroughs. But so happy to see someone giving these two beautiful Pokémon the love they deserve. Edit: I was very wrong about the levels! xD
Looking forward to the Zangoose run! I can see why you wanted it to have its own video after looking at bulbapedia lol I’m looking forward to the nuzlocke too! I think HG/SS are the gold standard for remakes (no pun intended)
I think it's only fair that he does a comparison run with Zangoose against Gumshoos. That would either mean playing on a gen 7 Pokemon game or backporting Gumshoos to gen 3 which should be a simple romhack.
Gold and Silver standard I'd say! Zangoose has been a wicked strong Pokémon to run. It was a nice break after Seviper :) I cannot wait for SS. I've been thinking about it for months. Thanks!
Don’t mind me sneaking into the comments eggsceptionally late. This was a great video! I recommend a Typhlosion vs Zangoose video next. Since you did two snakes vs each other and I believe Typhlosion is based off of a mongoose like Zangoose. 🙂
Sneak in whenever you want to! Thank you for sneaking in in the first place :) Oooh I just looked at the Typhlosion sprite again. That's totally mongoose-y. I'm happy to compare the results between them, but I'm saving Typhlosion for 3way VS videos with the other starters. Eventually I'd love to run them all - both from first stage, and starting with my VS rules. One video at a time :)
really enjoyed this run! I love Seviper and Arbok and don't see them often used so to see them here was a dream! can't wait to see that Zangoosse next week!!
Zangoose is a monster! After the last few videos that have been quite challenging runs it's been a real treat ripping through with Zangoose. Thank you :)
3:45 I'm right here, dont have any particular thoughts on who's gonna win, but from the opening this'll be more interesting than i first thought it would be. Can't wait to see how it goes!
20:20 I'm thinking haze will be really helpful in later battles. Unless I'm wrong and it doesn't clear the attack debuffs from intimidate. In which case ignore me, google wasn't very clear...
Haze would have been interesting but I feel it's very reactive instead of proactive. Substitute is my fave (obviously) but I was recently recommended considering Safeguard as well. So many options!!! Thanks for the input :)
I would not have guessed hp electric. I would like to point out that most of Loreleis team and golbat share the same weaknesses to rock and electric so asking if golbat helped me figure it out didn't help. That garydos did though.
@@briancaster2876 That's true. I had a few guesses in the live chat thinking it was HP Fighting for Lorelei/Tyranitar, but the Golbat then eliminated that. HP Electric was a weird one, definitely not the first that I tested. But I felt it worked the best!
Wow,that was an epic match 😮,both competitors gave all they had, especially Seviper with that round 2 league, that was really brutal. Hidden power for both gave the edge that they need. And like you've mentioned hp electric is really unique, I thought that you'll go with hp rock.😊 I think that Zangoose is pretty broken because of an early access to swords dance. Zangoose is one of my favourites so I hope that it do good in its spin of that match.🙂
This was a tough one to solve that's for sure but I'm so proud of the results. HP Electric was 100% not my first choice but after some testing it was the best. I really hope someone releases another Seviper R2 video at some point in the future I'd love to see other takes on that run. Such a brain puzzler. Zangoose is an absolute menace as a solo runner. It's been a pleasant break after so many more challenging runs lately. Thank you :)
@@Eggsceptional I think that hp rock could be great ,but the problem is that it's not going to be that strong against Aerodactyl though. And besides I don't know how the ivs would have to be like in order to get it . But it's worth trying if you haven't already done so.🤔
@@bateltheassistant Questions that beg answering once I find the time. I'm about ready to wrap up the next video so that I can start working on the next! Then the next next!
@@bateltheassistant That's the plan! I go live in about an hour and half to have people start teaching my SoulSilver :) I'll be releasing the VODs too so people can continue to give me retroactive tips should they choose to watch it.
Awesome video as always! Do you think you could do a tutorial someday on how to get started with speedruns, how to set up the timer, overlays etc.? I think a lot of people would appreciate that, since there's more and more people getting into it and a growing community of fans :) just an idea
Thank you, thank you :) I like that idea! Seeing a "behind the scenes" type video from Scott's Thoughts is what prompted me to make the channel in the first place after all. I think this is a great idea! I'll keep it in my back pocket for a bit - I have 2023 packed until the end!
@@Eggsceptional of course of course ^^ that's really interesting! yeah, might be a good idea to have one on your Channel, maybe a bit more detailed, maybe not! yeah I bet, it's a one man show after all right
@@bavarian995 Absolutely! I feel it rolls in nicely into some kind of subscriber special. I like the idea though, I've had a couple of people letting me know they want to get into making their own content. I need more time in a day. Yes, it is a one man show so I could use an extra one of me :P
@@Eggsceptional but that's literally all you can hope for right? people asking about more content than you can provide:) i also bet that there will be quite a few people willing to help with editing and stuff in the future:)
@@bavarian995 One step at a time right? I have enough requests right now to keep me busy for about 2 years at the rate I'm currently producing content. Once I can afford to pay myself I'll consider bringing in help
Scott's Thoughts was, after all, the one who inspired me to finally start making my own content after years of thinking about it. FR is my fave main series Pokémon game, and after my first trek through R2 I just had to keep going with it. Thank you :) PS: Glad to have another Domie around :)
Notifications are on! I can't wait! Seviper has a wider movepool and base 100 atk and spatk, but Arbok has a trick up its sleeve seviper doesn't: an egg move to handle brock and misty. Seviper may get flamethrower, but Arbok gets Earthquake. Arbok will slide ahead early, Seviper will take the lead and hold it until round 2, and Arbok will clean up. The REAL question is going to be the natures used. Arbok NEEDS speed, but he can't cut really any stat, save maybe defense because of intimidate and/or stockpile, while seviper will likely be able to cut his attack for extra speed because BASE 100. Can't wait for this, I'm setting my alarm to ensure I'm awake for it!
It's so interesting to me to see your predictions and thoughts about how this'll line up. This was one of the most challenging runs for me to solve. We'll see if you agree with how I did it :) thanks!
I like how despite the growth rate seviper was able to clock in only 8 minutes slower, i would have assumed 15 at best. On a side note haze solves intimidate leads like blaine and lance better than substitute does and it removes burn attack debuff and paralysis speed debuff too (which is niche but still good to know)
I definitely spent the most time trying to figure out Seviper. I was blown away by the sub 2h on the second run honestly. I guess blasting through the first parts of the league at 93 was a fast way of doing that! Moves like Haze/Mist/Safeguard have been brought to my attention more and more lately as an alternative to Substitute. I'll need to keep them in mind more while I route. They're definitely moves that adult me is still relying on knowledge from kid me. "Does it do damage? Nah? Useless!". One run at a time I'll get better at this. Thanks for the tips and helping me become a better player :)
Edit: nvm, I reached the point you talk about it lmao my bad I don't know if you noticed, but Arbok base atk is 95 only from gen 6/7-foward. It was 85 before. A lot of mons received stat bonuses in gen 6/7. Just a heads up, as you might get illuded by certain stats buff and get disappointed later when you notice the OG stats (I'm looking at you Masquerain).
Yeah, I do fix it in the second playthroughs. It was one of those mistakes I caught a little too late. Whoops! But thanks for letting me know anyway :) I've definitely learned to double check the " * " points more diligently at the bottom of pages :P
I'm curious to see how this goes as I watch. I'm pulling for Arbok, but I do feel like Seviper could have the edge. Those superior offensive stats are good. And honestly starting off with body slam is good. Feels like the key for Arbok will be whether it's speed can tip the scales. Interesting stat comparison. Better speed and defenses vs lower speed, but higher offence.
My initial eggspectations were about in line with yours. I was so surprised by the difficulty of that Round 2 league. Arbok as a more "all-rounder" definitely had the easier time.
I must have accidentally hit the button to change the overlay when I was adding a reset. I didn't notice until after the champion battle when I switched it back. I was very tired by the end of these runs!
okay I did not know Seviper had equal atk and sp.atk and that they're base 100, I always learn something new from your vids. In terms of future vs vids has Gyarados and Milotic been suggested yet cause I like to see how Gyarados does and Milotic does seem like it would do well with its bulk (plus it does continue the snake theme). If you wanna go with a Halloween theme Murkrow vs Misdreavus could a fun one
I'm glad! Every video I'm learning something new about the game too it seems. I've been searching and searching for an eggscuse to play Gyarados and a VS with Milotic just might be the ticket. I wish I had the time to put out a VS for Halloween, but would you settle for half of that? I plan to run Misdreavus solo for Halloween.
@@lumineinfinitussilverkagat8094 Gyarados has been my all time fave Pokémon for many, many years. Misdreavus is going to be amazing. Calm Mind and Levitate? Yes please.
Just started the video, but I gotta say this now before I forget. But technically beat up in gen 3 is more so a physical type typeless move that uses the base attack stat of all the pokemon in your party. Still not useful for solo playthrough. Sorry if you already knew that
Thanks for letting me know! I started reading into Beat Up, realized I was trying to figure out mechanics for something I wasn't even using, then moved on. So yes, thank you for the clarification :) I'll keep it in my back pocket for team challenges at some point in the future.
Mildly surprised how high you had to level, but with those growth rates and your round 2 playthrough, that outcome was predictable. And, without checking, I am assuming Swords Dance is the reason. Zangoose wasn't great, but SD is a hell of a drug. And the biggest issue you have in Gen 4 is the physical special split and move pols being a lot better overall. You're gonna have a blast with Dark types that actually work.
Those R2 teams stacked with EQs were so rough. The long Fluctuating grind for Seviper was the only thing that held it back I feel. You mean Bite/Crunch that are actually Physical moves? I cannot WAIT to run Tyranitar again (my fave pseudo).
In the first run with Seviper I was getting extremely frustrated so that's why I ended up cheating HP Ice onto Seviper for Lance. Then at the Champion HP Ice was almost useless, and I had to grind to 100 to try and overcome the Champ. My second playthrough, though, I had a different approach that allowed me a lower completion level. Hopefully that clears it up! Thanks :)
Finished watching this. Yeah... Fluctuating Growth rate is a huge challenge. More so than the Slow Growth rate. If this was the Round 1 League only, Fluctuating wouldn't this awful to deal with. The only Fluctuating Pokemon I see being good would be Wailord and Crawdaunt for Round 2 League. Everyone else would not be that good, even Breloom and Hariyama due to the fact that Kanto has Alakazams everywhere. Erratic Growth rate might be better in Fire Red and Leaf Green for Round 2 Elite Four. Would be better than in Emerald, since Brock isn't as problematic as Roxanne. The irony is that there's no Erratic or Fluctuating Growth rate Mons available in Fire Red and Leaf Green you can obtain normally.
I know right? I've actually found that yes, the Erratic rate seems to be very well suited to a R2 finish in FR/LG. My best non legendary so far was Armaldo by a margin - who's Erratic. 1.64M XP to level 100 was brutal. But on the flip side I'm running Zangoose for next week and that Erratic rate is wonderful. And Swords Dance...
I'm betting Seviper is going to get bodied due to that speed stat. It's got the offensive power but it's defenses and growth rate feel like they'll be too big a hurdle to overcome. Also, those opening egg puns are clucked, straight up cracked. Gotta be careful going so hard on the yolks so early.
It was all about the EQs in that R2 league. Absolutely brutal for Seviper. I guess I shouldn't set the eggspectations too high at the start, eh? Thanks :)
Haze and safeguard may be viable niche moves especially against intimidators Haze now only resets the stat stages of all active Pokémon on the field to 0. Other effects (such as Focus Energy) are no longer affected by Haz
Hmmm. An alternate to Substitute would be nice as it doesn't sacrifice 1/4 of your HP. I'll keep it in mind for sure. I appreciate it. Haze is more reactionary - I prefer the Safeguard being more proactive. Thank you!
@@mattiamerlo2688 I just looked it up and yes, thank you for the correction. I will have to keep them in mind though. Safeguard for Round 2 Lance's Gyarados could still be hugely beneficial :)
Not a big fan of using Hidden Power for the sake of these runs, it's a bit too hard to emulate on a normal playthrough without loads of resets+guide or PKHex. In this case HP Rock was weaker than Rock Slide as a move, and Arbok did have access to that as a superior rock attack so it's not as game-changing as giving it like HP Fighting when it doesn't learn Brick Break. Great video by the way! Fun watch!
That's a fair point but with the incredibly limited movesets of Gen 3 I've found that sometimes I need to augment them a bit. I feel Seviper without HP would have just been "how fast can I get to lvl 100 and find a good luck battle against the Champion?" I realize it's much tougher to get a specific HP without 3rd party tools but it IS possible at least. I try to stick close(ish) to vanilla. Thank you! I appreciate the feedback :)
I get upsetty spaghetti when I click the back button on my mouse accidentally and lose half a comment! I can't imagine that while writing! I became a little overconfident with Seviper I feel and I paid for it. Base 60 defenses... not the best. Thanks!
It happens to us all. I just got blown out of a tera raid den because I forgot that while my steel type was good against the tera type (fairy) it's still weak against the raid pokemon's normal (and therefore most of their move's) typing (fire).
@@kitsunekun2345 Ouch! I was caught out by another one as well, but I'll save talking about that one for the next video. It's always such a cringy moment when things like that happen.
1:00:00 I'm guessing *neither* of them took the first leg of the race Also a fun fact that real life cobras eat other snakes, so this checks out. Also wow they were really neck-and-neck most of this video. Also they're 90% neck.
But look at Seviper's little nubbins! They could be like feet! Everyone knows that feet are attached to legs :P I love the fun facts that I learn from these videos :) I was quite surprised at how close this ended up being at the very end, considering how difficult the game was for Seviper. Neck and neck... hilarious :) Thank you!
The problem with Intimidate in a competition like this, is that it’s slow; ESPECIALLY when grinding. I think Shed Skin is pretty underrated because when you pair it with Rest, funny things can happen.
Pairing it with rest would have been great! It's a shame that neither had the bulk to really take advantage. Well, Arbok, maybe. That's a good point that Intimidate would cost a lot of time in additional battle text. I feel the utility of Shed Skin was better overall. Thanks :)
My headcanon for solo runs is that the player isn't the trainer, and is the pokémon instead: A random feral pokémon is rampaging through the region to take the throne despite not being or having a trainer
Just a point you were using EQ against Venusaur on Arbok in playthrough 1 round 2 Champ when Sludge Bomb is also neutral and would of been hitting slightly harder.
I eventually figured it out in the R2 league of the second playthrough. But yes, I was very slow on the uptake with that one. Poison is just not a type I use offensively enough and I need to be better with my type interactions. Thanks for the tip :)
@@PlantmandotEXE Fair(y) enough! It's the typings that I rarely use like Poison, Bug, Steel that I have the most trouble with. I'm getting better! (I hope)
Hmm. I feel like in the first run arbok will have a better time in the league. Maybe level 70-75? Ive done seviper in emerald and it was not easy so definitely higher than that. Precictions for final round? I think arbok would be level 85-90 but i dont think seviper will have a chance until at least 90 if not 100 depending on what moveset flexibility you have by the league. I feel like alakazam will be the first hurdle and then heracross' speed drips and tyranitar would be a death note.
You made a very solid prediction! That about sums up how things went, with the addition of abundant Earthquake problems. I hope you enjoyed the final results :)
@@Eggsceptional I assume the name comes from Naga, those mythical half-human half-snake beings, with the feminine suffix -ina. But I dunno. You should watch the cartoon though, those evil snakes traumatized me as a very young kid. It's probably on RUclips somewhere.
@@gaminggoddess85 Isn't the Jungle Book from like 1894? Were the Naga a thing at that point or are at the Naga rooted in that story? Dun dun dunnnnn. I believe that the snakes traumatized you. I've never liked them myself.
@@Eggsceptional Nah, legends of the Naga have been around for thousands of years. Whoever animated and voiced Nag and Nagaina did a good job making them feel so menacing, at least to a small child. And then the scene of Rikki Tikki fighting Nag was really intense even though it lasted only a few seconds, and then that annoying bird would cut in with his dumb song and melt my tension away. _~Rikk-Tikki-Tikki the ivory-fanged, the hunter with eyeballs of flame~_
@@gaminggoddess85 That's awesome! As far as my brain was concerned the Naga didn't exist until 2001 when I saw the intro video to The Frozen Throne. That's super cool though! I have it scratched down to try to find the cartoon when i have some free time to sit back and enjoy it :)
Eggcellent sir Eggcellent, although I gotta say that round 1 Seviper was nearly as bad as Shuckle and that is no small thing. the 120 resets, reaching level 100 and having to reset your HP to make it something usable, although that I can forgive. if you had used it as one type through the run and then changed just for the league, I'd call it cheating,but as it was for the R2 league alone, I'll say fair enough, you don't know with the R1 until you are actually trying it and running it. if not for the R2 Lance and Rival, I would sworn to Lord Helix that Seviper was gonna take the win, the stats and movepool all but suggested. it ran well in Sapphire, but I know Fire Red is a harder beast. I haven't much to say on Arbok, you run it as I thought you would and you run it very well, I did think it would get a better level for the R2 finish but its stats let it down I guess and the levels were needed. the upgrade to HP rock was a surprise in R2 though, I would of thought you might stick to rock slide, but I guess the added power and accuracy was a must I guess. I think shed skin was good call for both of them as well, status is one of the single biggest pains in Gen 3 and shed skin just sort of cured that for both from start to finish, a shame you couldn't do the same about intimidate, that ability aline set you back way too much, both would of done so much better without having to deal with that. I had a thought during the league. there is an item called a white herb, it cancels the negative stat drop for the holder once and is used and gone, imagine if you had one or even 2 for the league, no Gyrarados intimate from dance or from the Rivals Arcainine, every physical attacker would improve on the spot, must look into finding one for you in Fire Red, I think you find them easier in Gen 4 at least. I am looking forward to seeing that SS stream on Tuesday, its going to be so good to see what your 1st run will be like, I will be voting for your starter, I shan't say here though. its going to be a rough start, but I think you'll get to grips with it in no time. good news, I have finished grinding hitmonlee and shall be taking it through victory road now, its going to be good in there, plenty of good training for the team. I make a point of saving before battle so I may see what the opponents have and adjust my lead accordingly, very little grinding for the levels for the league will come after that, R2 should be over in no time
It was all about that R2 league honestly. Having to level so high is the only thing that killed Seviper otherwise I feel it would have won. Definitely not as tedious as Shuckle but it's another case where I eggspected more and that was what got to me. That stubbornness likely accounted for 60+ of those resets too. I'm glad you can forgive the cheat. I was so tempted to cheat again in the R2 Champ battle in that first playthrough but felt I'd already used all my life lines. It's true that both would have done better without facing the Intimidates but that's why I forced so many on myself. With Zangoose I'm not doing that. I need to see a different Champ team and with SD it really doesn't matter as much. The higher PP of HP Rock was nice too, even though I didn't even really use it until R2 because I forgot about my PP Ups. I was tired :P I think I went searching for a White Herb in FR but I couldn't find a location for one anywhere online. Most places that I checked led me to believe that there's no way to obtain one in FR/LG. That would be SO nice against some of those battles. Concerning SS it's definitely going to be a slow and contemplated run. The point of the series as a whole is to learn the game after all so this weekend I'm pooling resources for leader teams, grass encounters, all of that good stuff. I feel no shame in staring at a leader's team and theorizing before attempting them. Because... you know.. learning! That with viewer feedback is going to be invaluable. I'm so pumped to start it. And terrified because it's live and I can't edit out of my !@#$ ups. Like.. a poor word choice against a gym leader or technical issues! That's awesome that you're making such good progress in the run. That R2 league can be rough but it feels like your team has the diversity and options that you'll need.
@@Eggsceptional your stubbornness is admirable, it showed you had faith in the Pokemon you were running, except Shuckle, that was pure madness and we all know it. Seviper could of done so well if not for that R2, it just faced too many problems all at once to deal with properly, I think even with more moves to choose from it would of still struggled, it can attack and mix attack well, but its lack of bulk and speed was its downfall. those Intimidates are too much, I am inclined to say if you faced a different rival team, Charizard or Blastoise, you might of come out better with both just for that reason alone, but than there is still no helping Lance of course. would you consider it cheating if you just happened to trade in a single white herb from Emerald in order to have one to use? the lack of it in Fire red and the number of Intimidates you come against seem unbalanced is all. Zangoose will be very good, I think it will get to the S tier and maybe top it, a fast and powerful normal type with Swords Dance is now and always a strong combo to fear. ah yes, the infamous bad language that can happen on a live stream, its hard to resist especially when things are going badly, you should hear the language I use sometimes for my runs, for Parasect I used every bad word you can think of, including moist. if I may suggest, use one I got from the TV series Bluey, just says "Biscuits" instead of C@%$ or F$%&, you don't want to get demonetized after all. I am looking forward to your 1st stream, I might get all of it as it starts at 10pm over here, but I'll be there for most of it and will try to help along the way. no reading my guide book to give you easy hints though lol. the Rival and Agatha are my big concerns as my team is not very fast and weak to Psychic, which the ghosts and 2 of the rivals team will have and thats for R1 and R2, I think my team is ready for it though, I am literally about to cook and eat my dinner and then take on the R1 with Special Chan to test it and then the full team after. wish me luck
@@jptheflipper3825 That is a fair point that I can save beforehand for my vitamins. It is a question of time though yes. I have too many things to do! And yes, that is typically what I do. Usually I actually have the 1st playthrough edited as well before playing the second so that I've taken time to really think about it and go through the first run. That Red fight will 100% be the same. I could see why you enjoy Crobat over the Normal birds. It's always a question of coverage. Fury Cutter is equal parts concerning and interesting to conceptualize using. I hope that Farfetch'd could at least stand up long enough to stack up a few turns of it. I'm trying to give the special Chan the benefit of the doubt but I just see pain pain pain with it. The max EV training would tilt the scales a lot though. Don't hold your breath on Castform it's a ways off yet! It's true just like Exeggcutor I expected more out of Seviper. That R2 league was just SUCH a hard counter to us. The intimidates are so rough to work around. I'm not sure if adding a single White Herb would be worth it? There are a lot of fights with the intimidates and it would skew from all of my results up to this point. I like keeping it as "vanilla" as possible, considering the things I do edit. Zangoose is a monster as a solo runner. No doubt. I want to try to stop swearing in general, or at least less, so this will be a good exercise for me. I have a better vocab than that! But, there are some occasions where there's nothing like calling something as it is. It'll take practice. No cheating! But I am keeping resources at the ready. We'll call it an open book test? I hope the leagues went well!
@@Eggsceptional would it be possible to track your EV's by including it in your routing, on each run, I assume you have a rough idea about which trainers you are going to face and what vitamins you use could be planned around that. this is a theory that I might test for my solos, maybe one of the butterfree. I think once you have your overlay up and running, it should become easier to do all of this, the testing I suggest is effective, but slow and you are working against a timer after all. thats a good way of doing it, you play your run and look back on it as you eit so you know what you need to be doing for the 2nd run. you're going to need to be ready for Red, he may open with a Pikachu, but it will be a nasty Pikachu trust me and I think it holds a light ball, so will hit hard. Crobat is a personal favorite as well as being the best flyer for many runs. in Gen 3 it is a beast with fly, sludge bomb and shadow ball and it gets better after the physical/special split of Gen 4. you want to hear a weird but wonderful combo for it, curse and white herb, curse for the stat boost and white herb cancels the speed drop, its beautiful. Farfetch'd might be a surprise, I have never seen it in a solo for Gen 3, so might perform well, Fury Cutter is good if you can get it stack and a sword dance or 2 on top might be helpful, but its not the most accurate of moves so that may change you out a few times, I don't see it winning the VS, but definitely doing better than Pidgeot. I hate to tell you but special Chan suffered a lot, Lorelei's team is very bulky and needed 2 and 3 hits, which are hard when you are frail and do not hit very hard, even with the hold items to boost. what it really needed were the Gen 4 boosting items. funny thing, it did ok against the rest of the league when I took it as part of the team, the rival was again a problem for it though, I will not list the resets, but there were a lot whenever there were any on a single leaguer. thats fair enough with the white herbs, it was an idea, a last ditch effort like Shuckle I guess. I hate intimidates, unless you got a boosting move to counter it, it can rally mess up a physical attacker, all my physical using fighting types have 1 for just that reason, an admixture of meditate, bulk up and sword dances, when you start running teams, you can at least make use of switch battling or special attackers in order to get around that at least. Seviper in theory could of done so well, but thats the problem with theory, you gotta prove its right 1st. Zangoose is the beast of the 200 as it was known and will do so well. the 200 were the original Pokedex of Ruby and Sapphire, before Fire Red and Emerald, that 200 was all you had to work with and it was a monster in that format and I suspect will definitely be in Fire Red. saying that, I think I said the same of seviper so I wish you luck. the league went well, I got through it and the post game with no issue, I am now EV training my Heracross ready for the R2, should be done before I go bed tonight, then its just a matter of catching the legendaries, trading it all to my main cartridge and I can get started on which Butterfree comes 1st. wish me luck UPDATE: I have caught 5 caterpie, traded them to another game, evolved them and tested for HP. I have Dark, ice, rock, fire and the last is either steel or dragon as it hits everything neutral. I cannot decide which to do 1st, the fire or the ice, could you choose which 1 I use, I have a feeling you'll say ice
@@jptheflipper3825 I have considered it because the resources do exist to spreadsheet everything that I need to know for a run, including the trainers I typically face. It's just a time investment thing again. I spent the weekend much more focused on prepping Tuesday's stream and trying to get my production ahead again. I'm hoping that with GameHook I can set it up in some basic way in the interim. It's all resources I plan on building. I'm pretty sure you're correct about Red's Pikachu with the LB. I have no doubt that's going to be one doozy of a battle. I don't know there's a decent chance of some Return/Aerial Ace/HP Rock possibly combo with SD and Sub? Safeguard even? Those set up moves are wicked strong, even on Farfetch'd. Pidgeot will underwhelm me again I know it will. But I'm hopeful in Gen 4 it gets marginally better. Where I'm hoping things like White Herbs are also more common for more fun strategies. Very true. I feel like there will eventually be a snake team challenge of some kind. Arbok/Seviper/Gyarados/Onix/Steelix kind of thing as team members. That will be the opportunity to explore things like that. Oh no way, Zangoose with early SD is ridiculous. I, as usual, had my share of mistakes in the first run but that's just.. me! It's been a nice break after a bunch of more challenging runs. Do you have a gigantic collection of legendaries on your main cartridge? Or are you just fishing for better ones (natures/IVs)? Am I that predictable in regards to which Butterfree to run? Of course Ice :) But I would assume you'd go for Fire first.
I had to look it up quickly but Coil didn't exist until Gen 5, unfortunately. That sure would have been a nice one to use. I was leveled quite high by the end of these runs, particularly with Seviper. What a rough time that R2 league was! Thanks :)
So I'll post this before watching and edit after...I'm hoping for Seviper, something about the snake with a poison tail really gets me. But I'm thinking Arbok because it has more speed and that is just always the most important stat. Edit: I was a bit to kind to Seviper I see, but still I feel like Speed was a big pain for this snake, every extra hit was just brutal. But I am happy to see HP Electric get some shine.
HP Electric was definitely not the first one that I tried. I'm happy it ended up being the choice because I use it so rarely. That R2 league was rough and Arbok's more "all-rounder" kind of feel gave him such an easier time. Poor Seviper. So strong, but not against teams of Earthquakes.
Pre-watch: Arbok wins. It has more bulk, speed, and a much better growth rate. It's only barely worse in terms of attack, and Seviper's superior SpA wouldn't even help much because it's just too slow and frail to hit first or not get destroyed when it fails to. PS. Called it. 24:44 It's not THAT lucky. The chances of Sleep Powder hitting without activating Shed Skin are 3/4 * 2/3 = 1/2, so congrats, you won a coin toss.
Arbok's more "all-rounder" feel gave it a lot more durability, and therefore options I felt. That frailty of Seviper, combined with ALL the of the Earthquakes was too much for it. Fair enough! I'll take that coin toss though. Every Pokémon player out there knows that even 90% can sometimes feel like 10%.
day 15, although it's been almost 3 months but I don't care, everything will be worth it, I hope you put my name at the end of the video, although it's not necessary.
I can do you one better than that, I think. I'm still not quite ready to run it, but I'm getting closer by the week :) thank you I appreciate it as always.
Wait.. apparently I didn't watch this video and left the irrelevant comment. Wow this run was as painful as the eggsecute run! That wicked looking nagaina did you bad lol it's so comical to see nagaina dashing through the game in the early-early end stages and then hitting the HARD WALL in the champion league. Nagaina you treacherous snek.. and but uh sorry but I do enjoy when runs go like this and you resort to throwing things into your software.. and suffer from grinding😅😅😅😅😅😆😆😆😆😆 plsdontbanme
Slow, no defense, and weak to Earthquake isn't the best combo for success in these games 😅 I don't blame you at all! I love that I can find these struggles and show them off so that others don't have to 😁
Wow, this is interesting. Seviper is obviously stronger, but earning so little exp later on absolutely crippled it. Who thought it was a good idea to put it on a exp group worse than the Legendaries'? There's a reason they stopped using the Fluctuating exp group after Gen 3.
I was expecting more from Seviper, but that R2 league was absolutely brutal. I wonder what prompted the introduction of Fluctuating/Erratic anyway? In FR, pursuing R2 anyway, I find Erratic to be quite nice to play with! Fluctuating.. less so. Thanks :)
There was an episode in the Advanced Generation anime where on a trainer's choice question, they claimed that Arbok evolves into Seviper. Being a kid back then, it felt like a rather scandalous error by Pokémon. I remember trying to level up my traded Arbok in Pokémon Ruby but it just failed to evolve.
@@shardulsule Ahh gotcha. I never made it that far past the original Kanto episodes in the anime myself. Thanks for letting me know. Sounds like one of those old "Mew glitch" type situations. I can't quite recall how many hours I spent trying to use Strength on that truck... but it was too many :P
Well done with Seviper! I don't remember anyone in the premiere chat guessing it. Nobody went with Electric for Seviper. It hurt because the reason I used Rock with Bok was for the accuracy AND PP, then totally neglected my PP Ups until R2.
@@Eggsceptional Sadeness. I just assumed you were going have issues with coverage against lance for seviper and tyranitar/psychic as arbok. Guess I can get half lucky sometimes. I should really just assume you want rock for any physical attackers at this point because of how good its coverage (and how awful the ghastly line is to hit before physical-special split)
@@dragonspight It's an unfortunate truth, but yes. I feel like HP Rock/Rock Slide will be very common on my physical attackers simply because of how well it covers the leagues. People fault me for liking Rock Slide and its low accuracy but I don't have anything better!
@@mrmittenns5728 Rules surrounding names break my brain a bit. I actually Googled this pronunciation and found that both were mentioned as being "correct". Eggtato Eggtato? :P
It was among the first that I test yep! What a strange run this ended up being. I would not have chosen HP Electric without testing it as much as I did. Thanks :)
I had thought about it but I didn't want to lean fully into Harry Potter. I needed a nickname theme to carry into this week's follow up video after all :)
It's true there are a disproportionate number of male Pokémon, particularly in the R2 league. I've only resorted to Attract once, in my Chinchou/Lanturn video. I could have gone for it absolutely, but it would be very luck based.
@@raymondwilson855 That's fair enough! I remember that being the case from Lanturn. It very well might be the case that it would have gotten me through faster, particularly if I didn't have to grind like that with Seviper. It broke my brain solving that one.
I think Seviper might have the edge here because of a better movepool and better offensive stats. But we'll have to see!
All I'll say for now is that my initial assumptions about this run were dead wrong. That Round 2 league....
@@EggsceptionalAlso! Beat up uses the users raw attack stat versus the target's raw defense stat. Without implimenting any modifiers like EV's or IV's.
@@bananaspice1967 Oh it's the raw stat! I was trying to figure it out quickly scrolling through Bulbapedia, but then I figured - I'm not using it let's just move on. Thanks for clearing it up. I'll keep it in the back of my mind for team challenges :)
This is the first video of yours I've seen and I am a big fan. Your play-by-play commentary feels very uptempo, almost like listening to sports radio. This was great!
I appreciate it! I find that I must put a lot of energy into them because I'm usually sweating after recording a batch. Glad to hear you're enjoying the videos! I hope you can find the time to check out some others :) thanks!
Yea this is why I watch / listen his videos v nice / visual commentary
Damn I thought u had like at least a few K subs the quality for ur channel size is great
I appreciate it :) I've been working hard and I'm glad that it shows in the results. Thanks!
Lets go Arbok! Now to watch the video~
Edit: Man that was a wild ride. Glad my favourite Gen 1 Pokemon won this race, but man I thought after that first round for Seviper that it would be a way bigger win in the end. Great job as always on these videos man!
I agree! This video almost did my head in. I'm glad I could represent your fave Gen 1 Pokémon well :) Thank you!
For subscriber specials what about a video about how to cook different eggs? There’s 100+ ways. :)
Yolks aside though, I’m glad to see this every week. Turns my bad days sunny side up. ❤
I appreciate you :) You may know 100 different ways to cook eggs but I know.. like.. 7?
I'm so happy I can make your over-hard days that little bit easier!
@@Eggsceptional if that is something you decide to do even narration for eggs I am here to help :D
@@chefgrizz6284 There might be something there for Mew/Celebi since they have 100 base stats in everything. I will definitely pick your brain for eggs :)
That Round 2 elite four was ROUGH. Glad Seviper was able to improve its time so much, especially with how rough the first playthrough was. Keep up the good work!
OH was it ever. I cut out so much footage. I was over the moon with Sevipers improvements! Thank you :)
Yooooo a fantastic bday gift to me!
Love me some sneks!
I prefer Arbok over Seviper, but love both!
This one was a wild ride. The snakes were great - after some course correction.
Happy Birthday!! Hope you had a good one :)
@@Eggsceptional thank ya, dude! I had to work, but now I'm off for a few days.
Anyway, yeah they're kinda tough to get going. I'm surprised neither got like a regional form or anything within the last few generations.
Also a shame Arbok didn't make it higher on the list. Then again, under gen 3 mechanics and being a poison-type, it didn't have a lot going for it to begin with.
The design is still rad.
@@CasualVideoGamer It's true. I've always liked the colouring of Arbok. And that it's Ekans/snakE, Arbok, kobrA. Clever. I felt it all came down to that R2 league and the Earthquakes. That's what required being at SUCH a high level in both runs, particularly Seviper.
Glad to hear you've got some time to relax!
Crushing it with these videos man. Keep ‘em coming.
I appreciate it :) If you keep watching, I'll keep making them!
This was amazing to watch! I love arbok and it was great to see it do well. Thanks for this gem!
Thank you for watching! This video took a lot out of me so I'm glad that the work paid off :) Cheers!
Made it all the way to the end as Arbok is my favorite Pokemon and Seviper is another top pick (hence why I own 2 snakes irl) and once I heard you’re a fellow cat dad I immediately subbed! Keep up the awesome content, great to find someone else with great taste in pets and Pokémon!
I'd never played with either of the snakes before these runs! That R2 league sure was... instructional. Pets and Pokémon! They're what reveals a person's true character! Thanks :)
Wow! Discovered your channel yesterday! I'm going to binge watch all vs videos!
Thank you! I appreciate it. I hope you enjoy them. Or, at least most of them ;)
The irony that this coming week I have a replay for Ekans and arbach lol but it's in Gen 1. Good video broski
Thanks my friend! I need to check out that Ditto video you just released still :) I can't even imagine. You're going through the high pain part of the Dex it seems.
@@Eggsceptional yeah but anything after Ditto it's going to seem like a a brisk walk in the park. The next one is Evie that's going to be a task but after that a lot of them really are set up to have some pretty fun runs
@@jdsnerdverse Oh I bet Eevee is going to feel like Mewtwo after running Ditto! But yes, you're getting to that part of the Dex that's getting pretty stacked with powerhouses. That's going to feel good finally blasting through the game super quickly.
Bro said seviper in the most robotic way he could lol
I was getting pretty tired while making this one :P
@@Eggsceptional that’s fair, it’s hard being eggsceptional all the time 😜
@@XSasuken22X Stop it you'll make me blush.
Ok, you may continue :)
The quality of this video is really good compared how many subs you have. You deserve more subs for sure!
Thank you! I've been working hard and every day the channel grows a little more. I'm so happy that the hard work comes through in the end :)
Never been to your channel before but this was a really solid and enjoyable video
+1 sub
Thank you! I appreciate it :) My goal is to get a little bit better at something in every video.
I love that you do the round 2 league, i really don't see that a lot among the pokemon youtubers. I know it's way more work for you, but know that it is very much appreciated!
It was on my 4th video that I pushed into the R2 league and I absolutely fell in love. Any run that left out the R2 league, no matter how enjoyable it was, always left me wondering about R2. I couldn't help myself :)
your battle videos seem to always garner about twice as many views. is it twice the work?^^
hope your numbers climb!
i watch many "challenge" type youtubers, but ur the most chill, and the one i enjoy the most!
It's not quite twice the work but it is quite a bit more. This was roughly a 75 hour project to complete which considering my goal is to release weekly - it's a lot of time investment :P
I appreciate you saying that thank you :) Every day the channel grows a little bit more!
have you thought about projects with slightly bigger youtubers of your category, like scotts thoughts or someone?@@Eggsceptional
@@franz009franz I have! I have one collab that's half in the works half not with one creator, and then Scott Thoughts and I will likely be organizing a collab early 2024. We're both currently buried in production until the New Year :) Plus now that I have the new computer sharing footage is easier from what I've learned. Scott and I both record at 240 FPS now, I wasn't able to before.
@@Eggsceptional nice. The 2 of you have the same vibe 😂
@@franz009franz Scott's Thoughts was the one that inspired me to finally start making my own content. I should like to think we're similar :P That man is the genuine article too. So kind!
Also I love your pokemon epithet introduction "thE EGG POKEMON" "THE COCONUT POKEMON"
I really like tying it back to the Pokedex :)
Commenting mid-video and loving it so far! I think they will both finish around 60 given their supreme move pool and decent stats. Always loved Seviper and rarely used them in my playthroughs. But so happy to see someone giving these two beautiful Pokémon the love they deserve.
Edit: I was very wrong about the levels! xD
So was I. Almost every initial assumption I had about this video was dead wrong. That R2 league was rough. Thank you! Glad you hear you enjoyed it :)
Looking forward to the Zangoose run! I can see why you wanted it to have its own video after looking at bulbapedia lol I’m looking forward to the nuzlocke too! I think HG/SS are the gold standard for remakes (no pun intended)
I think it's only fair that he does a comparison run with Zangoose against Gumshoos. That would either mean playing on a gen 7 Pokemon game or backporting Gumshoos to gen 3 which should be a simple romhack.
Gold and Silver standard I'd say! Zangoose has been a wicked strong Pokémon to run. It was a nice break after Seviper :) I cannot wait for SS. I've been thinking about it for months. Thanks!
You just gained a subscriber, rooting for you man
Welcome! Thank you I really appreciate it :)
Bro really just made a magic school bus reference around 5:10.
Heck yeah I did! Ride on the Magic School Bus!!! :)
Lol nice@@Eggsceptional
I can't wait for the Zangoose run! sd, return, hp ghost, and close combat will dominate everything especially with the stats that Zangoose has!
Brick Break actually. Close Combat isn't a thing until Gen 4.
True - my best Fighting coverage will be Brick Break. But you best believe that Zangoose ripped through the game.
Love the Salazar name!! HP represent :) great video as per usual! 😊
Mischief managed!
The yellow spots on the bottom of Seviper’s body look like little nubby feet.
There. Now you’ll never unsee it.
Thanks for that. They're so cute!
Fun fact: some snake species do have vestigial leg bones towards their tail ends.
@@gaminggoddess85 That's so awesome! Learning things like that is the best, thank you :)
Don’t mind me sneaking into the comments eggsceptionally late. This was a great video! I recommend a Typhlosion vs Zangoose video next. Since you did two snakes vs each other and I believe Typhlosion is based off of a mongoose like Zangoose. 🙂
Sneak in whenever you want to! Thank you for sneaking in in the first place :) Oooh I just looked at the Typhlosion sprite again. That's totally mongoose-y. I'm happy to compare the results between them, but I'm saving Typhlosion for 3way VS videos with the other starters. Eventually I'd love to run them all - both from first stage, and starting with my VS rules. One video at a time :)
@@Eggsceptional I look forward to all future content! I’ll be here sneaking in or on time. You never know!
@@Aaron.Seabolt Whenever works for you :) Thanks!
really enjoyed this run! I love Seviper and Arbok and don't see them often used so to see them here was a dream! can't wait to see that Zangoosse next week!!
Zangoose is a monster! After the last few videos that have been quite challenging runs it's been a real treat ripping through with Zangoose. Thank you :)
Another sssssssuper interesting race :D
Thank you! You're too kind. Thissssss was a tough one.
3:45 I'm right here, dont have any particular thoughts on who's gonna win, but from the opening this'll be more interesting than i first thought it would be. Can't wait to see how it goes!
20:20 I'm thinking haze will be really helpful in later battles. Unless I'm wrong and it doesn't clear the attack debuffs from intimidate. In which case ignore me, google wasn't very clear...
Haze would have been interesting but I feel it's very reactive instead of proactive. Substitute is my fave (obviously) but I was recently recommended considering Safeguard as well. So many options!!! Thanks for the input :)
I would not have guessed hp electric. I would like to point out that most of Loreleis team and golbat share the same weaknesses to rock and electric so asking if golbat helped me figure it out didn't help. That garydos did though.
@@briancaster2876 That's true. I had a few guesses in the live chat thinking it was HP Fighting for Lorelei/Tyranitar, but the Golbat then eliminated that. HP Electric was a weird one, definitely not the first that I tested. But I felt it worked the best!
Wow,that was an epic match 😮,both competitors gave all they had, especially Seviper with that round 2 league, that was really brutal. Hidden power for both gave the edge that they need. And like you've mentioned hp electric is really unique, I thought that you'll go with hp rock.😊
I think that Zangoose is pretty broken because of an early access to swords dance. Zangoose is one of my favourites so I hope that it do good in its spin of that match.🙂
This was a tough one to solve that's for sure but I'm so proud of the results. HP Electric was 100% not my first choice but after some testing it was the best. I really hope someone releases another Seviper R2 video at some point in the future I'd love to see other takes on that run. Such a brain puzzler.
Zangoose is an absolute menace as a solo runner. It's been a pleasant break after so many more challenging runs lately. Thank you :)
@@Eggsceptional I think that hp rock could be great ,but the problem is that it's not going to be that strong against Aerodactyl though. And besides I don't know how the ivs would have to be like in order to get it . But it's worth trying if you haven't already done so.🤔
@@bateltheassistant Questions that beg answering once I find the time. I'm about ready to wrap up the next video so that I can start working on the next! Then the next next!
@@Eggsceptional Yeah, For sure. Maybe you could do it as a live stream someday ,so it won't overload you with work .
@@bateltheassistant That's the plan! I go live in about an hour and half to have people start teaching my SoulSilver :) I'll be releasing the VODs too so people can continue to give me retroactive tips should they choose to watch it.
Awesome video as always!
Do you think you could do a tutorial someday on how to get started with speedruns, how to set up the timer, overlays etc.? I think a lot of people would appreciate that, since there's more and more people getting into it and a growing community of fans :)
just an idea
Thank you, thank you :)
I like that idea! Seeing a "behind the scenes" type video from Scott's Thoughts is what prompted me to make the channel in the first place after all. I think this is a great idea! I'll keep it in my back pocket for a bit - I have 2023 packed until the end!
@@Eggsceptional of course of course ^^
that's really interesting! yeah, might be a good idea to have one on your Channel, maybe a bit more detailed, maybe not!
yeah I bet, it's a one man show after all right
@@bavarian995 Absolutely! I feel it rolls in nicely into some kind of subscriber special. I like the idea though, I've had a couple of people letting me know they want to get into making their own content. I need more time in a day. Yes, it is a one man show so I could use an extra one of me :P
@@Eggsceptional but that's literally all you can hope for right? people asking about more content than you can provide:)
i also bet that there will be quite a few people willing to help with editing and stuff in the future:)
@@bavarian995 One step at a time right? I have enough requests right now to keep me busy for about 2 years at the rate I'm currently producing content. Once I can afford to pay myself I'll consider bringing in help
Giving me Scotts Thoughts vibes with the VS video! I love his content but it is refreshing to see FR and LG content without a patreon pay wall.
P.s. if I know one think it is that the dome fossil is the only right choice!
Scott's Thoughts was, after all, the one who inspired me to finally start making my own content after years of thinking about it. FR is my fave main series Pokémon game, and after my first trek through R2 I just had to keep going with it. Thank you :)
PS: Glad to have another Domie around :)
Chuck Jones' Rikki-Tikki-Tavi from 1975
was recorded on the back end of our Disney animated Robin Hood VHS
Heck yeah! That's awesome. But, now I'm going to have the intro song to Disney's Robin Hood stuck in my mind all day. It's catchy!
Thank you :)
That eye of the cobra song was awesome
Thank you :) I have so much fun with those sometimes. Would you believe that I've always been a Weird Al fan? :)
Im so happy you did one of requests/suggestions
It's been a long time coming! Thanks for the request :)
I'm not sure what this does to the IVs stat wise but how does HP fighting look for runs where Tyranitar is a big problem?
... I just got to that part
It's all good! I try to be thorough. HP Fighting was a definite contender for Tyranitar, but the recovery from Giga Drain was invaluable. Thanks :)
Notifications are on! I can't wait!
Seviper has a wider movepool and base 100 atk and spatk, but Arbok has a trick up its sleeve seviper doesn't: an egg move to handle brock and misty.
Seviper may get flamethrower, but Arbok gets Earthquake. Arbok will slide ahead early, Seviper will take the lead and hold it until round 2, and Arbok will clean up.
The REAL question is going to be the natures used. Arbok NEEDS speed, but he can't cut really any stat, save maybe defense because of intimidate and/or stockpile, while seviper will likely be able to cut his attack for extra speed because BASE 100.
Can't wait for this, I'm setting my alarm to ensure I'm awake for it!
It's so interesting to me to see your predictions and thoughts about how this'll line up. This was one of the most challenging runs for me to solve. We'll see if you agree with how I did it :) thanks!
I like how despite the growth rate seviper was able to clock in only 8 minutes slower, i would have assumed 15 at best.
On a side note haze solves intimidate leads like blaine and lance better than substitute does and it removes burn attack debuff and paralysis speed debuff too (which is niche but still good to know)
I definitely spent the most time trying to figure out Seviper. I was blown away by the sub 2h on the second run honestly. I guess blasting through the first parts of the league at 93 was a fast way of doing that!
Moves like Haze/Mist/Safeguard have been brought to my attention more and more lately as an alternative to Substitute. I'll need to keep them in mind more while I route. They're definitely moves that adult me is still relying on knowledge from kid me. "Does it do damage? Nah? Useless!". One run at a time I'll get better at this.
Thanks for the tips and helping me become a better player :)
Edit: nvm, I reached the point you talk about it lmao my bad
I don't know if you noticed, but Arbok base atk is 95 only from gen 6/7-foward. It was 85 before. A lot of mons received stat bonuses in gen 6/7. Just a heads up, as you might get illuded by certain stats buff and get disappointed later when you notice the OG stats (I'm looking at you Masquerain).
Yeah, I do fix it in the second playthroughs. It was one of those mistakes I caught a little too late. Whoops! But thanks for letting me know anyway :) I've definitely learned to double check the " * " points more diligently at the bottom of pages :P
also Zangoose + double kick for the egg move would go crazy
You read my mind :)
Also sorry for all the comments. Imagine this run with the fang moves available on Seviper
@@chefgrizz6284 Completely different. No question in my mind. Maybe? That Tyranitar would still be a nightmare.
I'm curious to see how this goes as I watch. I'm pulling for Arbok, but I do feel like Seviper could have the edge. Those superior offensive stats are good. And honestly starting off with body slam is good.
Feels like the key for Arbok will be whether it's speed can tip the scales. Interesting stat comparison. Better speed and defenses vs lower speed, but higher offence.
My initial eggspectations were about in line with yours. I was so surprised by the difficulty of that Round 2 league. Arbok as a more "all-rounder" definitely had the easier time.
59:12 - Why does Arbok suddenly show up on the left hand side?
I must have accidentally hit the button to change the overlay when I was adding a reset. I didn't notice until after the champion battle when I switched it back. I was very tired by the end of these runs!
okay I did not know Seviper had equal atk and sp.atk and that they're base 100, I always learn something new from your vids. In terms of future vs vids has Gyarados and Milotic been suggested yet cause I like to see how Gyarados does and Milotic does seem like it would do well with its bulk (plus it does continue the snake theme). If you wanna go with a Halloween theme Murkrow vs Misdreavus could a fun one
I'm glad! Every video I'm learning something new about the game too it seems. I've been searching and searching for an eggscuse to play Gyarados and a VS with Milotic just might be the ticket. I wish I had the time to put out a VS for Halloween, but would you settle for half of that? I plan to run Misdreavus solo for Halloween.
Whoo can't wait see Gyara tear through Kanto, and Misdreavus solo sounds good as well@@Eggsceptional
@@lumineinfinitussilverkagat8094 Gyarados has been my all time fave Pokémon for many, many years. Misdreavus is going to be amazing. Calm Mind and Levitate? Yes please.
If you ever do a Farfetched or slaking run will you name is Jack ruby? There my favorite Pokémon
Done and done. I've added it to the list for nicknames. When I get to them :)
@@Eggsceptional 🫡👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🔥
Just started the video, but I gotta say this now before I forget. But technically beat up in gen 3 is more so a physical type typeless move that uses the base attack stat of all the pokemon in your party. Still not useful for solo playthrough. Sorry if you already knew that
Thanks for letting me know! I started reading into Beat Up, realized I was trying to figure out mechanics for something I wasn't even using, then moved on. So yes, thank you for the clarification :) I'll keep it in my back pocket for team challenges at some point in the future.
Mildly surprised how high you had to level, but with those growth rates and your round 2 playthrough, that outcome was predictable. And, without checking, I am assuming Swords Dance is the reason. Zangoose wasn't great, but SD is a hell of a drug.
And the biggest issue you have in Gen 4 is the physical special split and move pols being a lot better overall. You're gonna have a blast with Dark types that actually work.
Those R2 teams stacked with EQs were so rough. The long Fluctuating grind for Seviper was the only thing that held it back I feel.
You mean Bite/Crunch that are actually Physical moves? I cannot WAIT to run Tyranitar again (my fave pseudo).
What happened when you fought Champion 2 with Giga Drain, Flamethrower, Crunch and Sludge Bomb?
And then have HP Ice for Lance?
In the first run with Seviper I was getting extremely frustrated so that's why I ended up cheating HP Ice onto Seviper for Lance. Then at the Champion HP Ice was almost useless, and I had to grind to 100 to try and overcome the Champ. My second playthrough, though, I had a different approach that allowed me a lower completion level. Hopefully that clears it up! Thanks :)
Dome best fossil baby!!!
Gotta bring that Dome home!
@@Eggsceptional woot woot!!
Finished watching this.
Yeah... Fluctuating Growth rate is a huge challenge. More so than the Slow Growth rate. If this was the Round 1 League only, Fluctuating wouldn't this awful to deal with. The only Fluctuating Pokemon I see being good would be Wailord and Crawdaunt for Round 2 League. Everyone else would not be that good, even Breloom and Hariyama due to the fact that Kanto has Alakazams everywhere.
Erratic Growth rate might be better in Fire Red and Leaf Green for Round 2 Elite Four. Would be better than in Emerald, since Brock isn't as problematic as Roxanne.
The irony is that there's no Erratic or Fluctuating Growth rate Mons available in Fire Red and Leaf Green you can obtain normally.
I know right? I've actually found that yes, the Erratic rate seems to be very well suited to a R2 finish in FR/LG. My best non legendary so far was Armaldo by a margin - who's Erratic. 1.64M XP to level 100 was brutal. But on the flip side I'm running Zangoose for next week and that Erratic rate is wonderful. And Swords Dance...
I'm betting Seviper is going to get bodied due to that speed stat. It's got the offensive power but it's defenses and growth rate feel like they'll be too big a hurdle to overcome.
Also, those opening egg puns are clucked, straight up cracked. Gotta be careful going so hard on the yolks so early.
It was all about the EQs in that R2 league. Absolutely brutal for Seviper.
I guess I shouldn't set the eggspectations too high at the start, eh? Thanks :)
Haze and safeguard may be viable niche moves especially against intimidators
Haze now only resets the stat stages of all active Pokémon on the field to 0. Other effects (such as Focus Energy) are no longer affected by Haz
Hmmm. An alternate to Substitute would be nice as it doesn't sacrifice 1/4 of your HP. I'll keep it in mind for sure. I appreciate it. Haze is more reactionary - I prefer the Safeguard being more proactive.
Thank you!
Safeguard doesn't apply to stats drops, only status conditions. You confused it with mist (understandable, mist is so niche)
@@mattiamerlo2688 I just looked it up and yes, thank you for the correction. I will have to keep them in mind though. Safeguard for Round 2 Lance's Gyarados could still be hugely beneficial :)
Not a big fan of using Hidden Power for the sake of these runs, it's a bit too hard to emulate on a normal playthrough without loads of resets+guide or PKHex.
In this case HP Rock was weaker than Rock Slide as a move, and Arbok did have access to that as a superior rock attack so it's not as game-changing as giving it like HP Fighting when it doesn't learn Brick Break.
Great video by the way! Fun watch!
That's a fair point but with the incredibly limited movesets of Gen 3 I've found that sometimes I need to augment them a bit. I feel Seviper without HP would have just been "how fast can I get to lvl 100 and find a good luck battle against the Champion?" I realize it's much tougher to get a specific HP without 3rd party tools but it IS possible at least. I try to stick close(ish) to vanilla.
Thank you! I appreciate the feedback :)
Big oops on the not saving. This is why I'm so paranoid about saving constantly, whether in gaming or writing!
I get upsetty spaghetti when I click the back button on my mouse accidentally and lose half a comment! I can't imagine that while writing! I became a little overconfident with Seviper I feel and I paid for it. Base 60 defenses... not the best. Thanks!
It happens to us all. I just got blown out of a tera raid den because I forgot that while my steel type was good against the tera type (fairy) it's still weak against the raid pokemon's normal (and therefore most of their move's) typing (fire).
@@kitsunekun2345 Ouch! I was caught out by another one as well, but I'll save talking about that one for the next video. It's always such a cringy moment when things like that happen.
@@Eggsceptional indeed. But we must embrace the cringe if we are ever to taste victory
@@kitsunekun2345 Agreed
1:00:00 I'm guessing *neither* of them took the first leg of the race
Also a fun fact that real life cobras eat other snakes, so this checks out.
Also wow they were really neck-and-neck most of this video. Also they're 90% neck.
But look at Seviper's little nubbins! They could be like feet! Everyone knows that feet are attached to legs :P
I love the fun facts that I learn from these videos :)
I was quite surprised at how close this ended up being at the very end, considering how difficult the game was for Seviper. Neck and neck... hilarious :) Thank you!
Okay trainers Which one of these pokemon evolves from arbok?
Kobraviper? Sevbok? Arviper? Sevbok?!?!?!?
59:10
Well. We see that Arbok does evolve from Seviper.
@@shadowtitanx3962 I'm not sure if the output from my tired brain should be considered Poké-Universe cannon.. ;)
The problem with Intimidate in a competition like this, is that it’s slow; ESPECIALLY when grinding.
I think Shed Skin is pretty underrated because when you pair it with Rest, funny things can happen.
Pairing it with rest would have been great! It's a shame that neither had the bulk to really take advantage. Well, Arbok, maybe. That's a good point that Intimidate would cost a lot of time in additional battle text. I feel the utility of Shed Skin was better overall. Thanks :)
My headcanon for solo runs is that the player isn't the trainer, and is the pokémon instead: A random feral pokémon is rampaging through the region to take the throne despite not being or having a trainer
That's awesome! I love the little things that we do to keep things interesting :) Thanks!
Well done eggs we salute you 👏🏻🫡
Thank you, * bows *, thank you!
Just a point you were using EQ against Venusaur on Arbok in playthrough 1 round 2 Champ when Sludge Bomb is also neutral and would of been hitting slightly harder.
I eventually figured it out in the R2 league of the second playthrough. But yes, I was very slow on the uptake with that one. Poison is just not a type I use offensively enough and I need to be better with my type interactions. Thanks for the tip :)
Totally understandable seeing as offensively Poison has been kinda terrible without Fairy types to bully with it.
@@PlantmandotEXE Fair(y) enough! It's the typings that I rarely use like Poison, Bug, Steel that I have the most trouble with. I'm getting better! (I hope)
Hmm. I feel like in the first run arbok will have a better time in the league. Maybe level 70-75? Ive done seviper in emerald and it was not easy so definitely higher than that. Precictions for final round? I think arbok would be level 85-90 but i dont think seviper will have a chance until at least 90 if not 100 depending on what moveset flexibility you have by the league. I feel like alakazam will be the first hurdle and then heracross' speed drips and tyranitar would be a death note.
You made a very solid prediction! That about sums up how things went, with the addition of abundant Earthquake problems. I hope you enjoyed the final results :)
@@Eggsceptional haha years of nuzlocking and solo running emerald pays off lol
@@Matthias.Abaddon I'll take experience above anything else :P
There was an old Rikki Tikki Tavi cartoon where Nagaina is pronounced Nah-gah-EE-nah. Also they were female, Nag was the male cobra.
I wasn't 100% sure on the pronounciation. Hopefully it was good enough! Also, yes. I caught that in editing that my Nagaina was male. Whoops!
@@Eggsceptional I assume the name comes from Naga, those mythical half-human half-snake beings, with the feminine suffix -ina. But I dunno. You should watch the cartoon though, those evil snakes traumatized me as a very young kid. It's probably on RUclips somewhere.
@@gaminggoddess85 Isn't the Jungle Book from like 1894? Were the Naga a thing at that point or are at the Naga rooted in that story? Dun dun dunnnnn. I believe that the snakes traumatized you. I've never liked them myself.
@@Eggsceptional Nah, legends of the Naga have been around for thousands of years.
Whoever animated and voiced Nag and Nagaina did a good job making them feel so menacing, at least to a small child. And then the scene of Rikki Tikki fighting Nag was really intense even though it lasted only a few seconds, and then that annoying bird would cut in with his dumb song and melt my tension away. _~Rikk-Tikki-Tikki the ivory-fanged, the hunter with eyeballs of flame~_
@@gaminggoddess85 That's awesome! As far as my brain was concerned the Naga didn't exist until 2001 when I saw the intro video to The Frozen Throne. That's super cool though! I have it scratched down to try to find the cartoon when i have some free time to sit back and enjoy it :)
I’m a little disappointed that you didn’t name the other Pokémon nagini from hp. It was voldy’s snake
I did have Salazar already and I wanted a way to tie into the follow up Zangoose run. Lord V didn't want to lend out Nagini for the weekend anyway :(
Eggcellent sir Eggcellent, although I gotta say that round 1 Seviper was nearly as bad as Shuckle and that is no small thing. the 120 resets, reaching level 100 and having to reset your HP to make it something usable, although that I can forgive. if you had used it as one type through the run and then changed just for the league, I'd call it cheating,but as it was for the R2 league alone, I'll say fair enough, you don't know with the R1 until you are actually trying it and running it. if not for the R2 Lance and Rival, I would sworn to Lord Helix that Seviper was gonna take the win, the stats and movepool all but suggested. it ran well in Sapphire, but I know Fire Red is a harder beast.
I haven't much to say on Arbok, you run it as I thought you would and you run it very well, I did think it would get a better level for the R2 finish but its stats let it down I guess and the levels were needed. the upgrade to HP rock was a surprise in R2 though, I would of thought you might stick to rock slide, but I guess the added power and accuracy was a must I guess. I think shed skin was good call for both of them as well, status is one of the single biggest pains in Gen 3 and shed skin just sort of cured that for both from start to finish, a shame you couldn't do the same about intimidate, that ability aline set you back way too much, both would of done so much better without having to deal with that.
I had a thought during the league. there is an item called a white herb, it cancels the negative stat drop for the holder once and is used and gone, imagine if you had one or even 2 for the league, no Gyrarados intimate from dance or from the Rivals Arcainine, every physical attacker would improve on the spot, must look into finding one for you in Fire Red, I think you find them easier in Gen 4 at least.
I am looking forward to seeing that SS stream on Tuesday, its going to be so good to see what your 1st run will be like, I will be voting for your starter, I shan't say here though. its going to be a rough start, but I think you'll get to grips with it in no time.
good news, I have finished grinding hitmonlee and shall be taking it through victory road now, its going to be good in there, plenty of good training for the team. I make a point of saving before battle so I may see what the opponents have and adjust my lead accordingly, very little grinding for the levels for the league will come after that, R2 should be over in no time
It was all about that R2 league honestly. Having to level so high is the only thing that killed Seviper otherwise I feel it would have won. Definitely not as tedious as Shuckle but it's another case where I eggspected more and that was what got to me. That stubbornness likely accounted for 60+ of those resets too. I'm glad you can forgive the cheat. I was so tempted to cheat again in the R2 Champ battle in that first playthrough but felt I'd already used all my life lines.
It's true that both would have done better without facing the Intimidates but that's why I forced so many on myself. With Zangoose I'm not doing that. I need to see a different Champ team and with SD it really doesn't matter as much. The higher PP of HP Rock was nice too, even though I didn't even really use it until R2 because I forgot about my PP Ups. I was tired :P
I think I went searching for a White Herb in FR but I couldn't find a location for one anywhere online. Most places that I checked led me to believe that there's no way to obtain one in FR/LG. That would be SO nice against some of those battles.
Concerning SS it's definitely going to be a slow and contemplated run. The point of the series as a whole is to learn the game after all so this weekend I'm pooling resources for leader teams, grass encounters, all of that good stuff. I feel no shame in staring at a leader's team and theorizing before attempting them. Because... you know.. learning! That with viewer feedback is going to be invaluable. I'm so pumped to start it. And terrified because it's live and I can't edit out of my !@#$ ups. Like.. a poor word choice against a gym leader or technical issues!
That's awesome that you're making such good progress in the run. That R2 league can be rough but it feels like your team has the diversity and options that you'll need.
@@Eggsceptional your stubbornness is admirable, it showed you had faith in the Pokemon you were running, except Shuckle, that was pure madness and we all know it. Seviper could of done so well if not for that R2, it just faced too many problems all at once to deal with properly, I think even with more moves to choose from it would of still struggled, it can attack and mix attack well, but its lack of bulk and speed was its downfall.
those Intimidates are too much, I am inclined to say if you faced a different rival team, Charizard or Blastoise, you might of come out better with both just for that reason alone, but than there is still no helping Lance of course. would you consider it cheating if you just happened to trade in a single white herb from Emerald in order to have one to use? the lack of it in Fire red and the number of Intimidates you come against seem unbalanced is all.
Zangoose will be very good, I think it will get to the S tier and maybe top it, a fast and powerful normal type with Swords Dance is now and always a strong combo to fear.
ah yes, the infamous bad language that can happen on a live stream, its hard to resist especially when things are going badly, you should hear the language I use sometimes for my runs, for Parasect I used every bad word you can think of, including moist. if I may suggest, use one I got from the TV series Bluey, just says "Biscuits" instead of C@%$ or F$%&, you don't want to get demonetized after all. I am looking forward to your 1st stream, I might get all of it as it starts at 10pm over here, but I'll be there for most of it and will try to help along the way. no reading my guide book to give you easy hints though lol.
the Rival and Agatha are my big concerns as my team is not very fast and weak to Psychic, which the ghosts and 2 of the rivals team will have and thats for R1 and R2, I think my team is ready for it though, I am literally about to cook and eat my dinner and then take on the R1 with Special Chan to test it and then the full team after. wish me luck
@@jptheflipper3825 That is a fair point that I can save beforehand for my vitamins. It is a question of time though yes. I have too many things to do! And yes, that is typically what I do. Usually I actually have the 1st playthrough edited as well before playing the second so that I've taken time to really think about it and go through the first run. That Red fight will 100% be the same.
I could see why you enjoy Crobat over the Normal birds. It's always a question of coverage. Fury Cutter is equal parts concerning and interesting to conceptualize using. I hope that Farfetch'd could at least stand up long enough to stack up a few turns of it.
I'm trying to give the special Chan the benefit of the doubt but I just see pain pain pain with it. The max EV training would tilt the scales a lot though. Don't hold your breath on Castform it's a ways off yet!
It's true just like Exeggcutor I expected more out of Seviper. That R2 league was just SUCH a hard counter to us. The intimidates are so rough to work around. I'm not sure if adding a single White Herb would be worth it? There are a lot of fights with the intimidates and it would skew from all of my results up to this point. I like keeping it as "vanilla" as possible, considering the things I do edit.
Zangoose is a monster as a solo runner. No doubt. I want to try to stop swearing in general, or at least less, so this will be a good exercise for me. I have a better vocab than that! But, there are some occasions where there's nothing like calling something as it is. It'll take practice. No cheating! But I am keeping resources at the ready. We'll call it an open book test?
I hope the leagues went well!
@@Eggsceptional would it be possible to track your EV's by including it in your routing, on each run, I assume you have a rough idea about which trainers you are going to face and what vitamins you use could be planned around that. this is a theory that I might test for my solos, maybe one of the butterfree. I think once you have your overlay up and running, it should become easier to do all of this, the testing I suggest is effective, but slow and you are working against a timer after all.
thats a good way of doing it, you play your run and look back on it as you eit so you know what you need to be doing for the 2nd run. you're going to need to be ready for Red, he may open with a Pikachu, but it will be a nasty Pikachu trust me and I think it holds a light ball, so will hit hard.
Crobat is a personal favorite as well as being the best flyer for many runs. in Gen 3 it is a beast with fly, sludge bomb and shadow ball and it gets better after the physical/special split of Gen 4. you want to hear a weird but wonderful combo for it, curse and white herb, curse for the stat boost and white herb cancels the speed drop, its beautiful. Farfetch'd might be a surprise, I have never seen it in a solo for Gen 3, so might perform well, Fury Cutter is good if you can get it stack and a sword dance or 2 on top might be helpful, but its not the most accurate of moves so that may change you out a few times, I don't see it winning the VS, but definitely doing better than Pidgeot.
I hate to tell you but special Chan suffered a lot, Lorelei's team is very bulky and needed 2 and 3 hits, which are hard when you are frail and do not hit very hard, even with the hold items to boost. what it really needed were the Gen 4 boosting items. funny thing, it did ok against the rest of the league when I took it as part of the team, the rival was again a problem for it though, I will not list the resets, but there were a lot whenever there were any on a single leaguer.
thats fair enough with the white herbs, it was an idea, a last ditch effort like Shuckle I guess. I hate intimidates, unless you got a boosting move to counter it, it can rally mess up a physical attacker, all my physical using fighting types have 1 for just that reason, an admixture of meditate, bulk up and sword dances, when you start running teams, you can at least make use of switch battling or special attackers in order to get around that at least. Seviper in theory could of done so well, but thats the problem with theory, you gotta prove its right 1st.
Zangoose is the beast of the 200 as it was known and will do so well. the 200 were the original Pokedex of Ruby and Sapphire, before Fire Red and Emerald, that 200 was all you had to work with and it was a monster in that format and I suspect will definitely be in Fire Red. saying that, I think I said the same of seviper so I wish you luck.
the league went well, I got through it and the post game with no issue, I am now EV training my Heracross ready for the R2, should be done before I go bed tonight, then its just a matter of catching the legendaries, trading it all to my main cartridge and I can get started on which Butterfree comes 1st. wish me luck
UPDATE: I have caught 5 caterpie, traded them to another game, evolved them and tested for HP. I have Dark, ice, rock, fire and the last is either steel or dragon as it hits everything neutral. I cannot decide which to do 1st, the fire or the ice, could you choose which 1 I use, I have a feeling you'll say ice
@@jptheflipper3825 I have considered it because the resources do exist to spreadsheet everything that I need to know for a run, including the trainers I typically face. It's just a time investment thing again. I spent the weekend much more focused on prepping Tuesday's stream and trying to get my production ahead again. I'm hoping that with GameHook I can set it up in some basic way in the interim. It's all resources I plan on building.
I'm pretty sure you're correct about Red's Pikachu with the LB. I have no doubt that's going to be one doozy of a battle.
I don't know there's a decent chance of some Return/Aerial Ace/HP Rock possibly combo with SD and Sub? Safeguard even? Those set up moves are wicked strong, even on Farfetch'd. Pidgeot will underwhelm me again I know it will. But I'm hopeful in Gen 4 it gets marginally better. Where I'm hoping things like White Herbs are also more common for more fun strategies.
Very true. I feel like there will eventually be a snake team challenge of some kind. Arbok/Seviper/Gyarados/Onix/Steelix kind of thing as team members. That will be the opportunity to explore things like that.
Oh no way, Zangoose with early SD is ridiculous. I, as usual, had my share of mistakes in the first run but that's just.. me! It's been a nice break after a bunch of more challenging runs.
Do you have a gigantic collection of legendaries on your main cartridge? Or are you just fishing for better ones (natures/IVs)? Am I that predictable in regards to which Butterfree to run? Of course Ice :) But I would assume you'd go for Fire first.
Is coil and badge boosts a thing in gen 3?
I’ll guess lv 80 by end
I had to look it up quickly but Coil didn't exist until Gen 5, unfortunately. That sure would have been a nice one to use. I was leveled quite high by the end of these runs, particularly with Seviper. What a rough time that R2 league was! Thanks :)
So I'll post this before watching and edit after...I'm hoping for Seviper, something about the snake with a poison tail really gets me. But I'm thinking Arbok because it has more speed and that is just always the most important stat.
Edit: I was a bit to kind to Seviper I see, but still I feel like Speed was a big pain for this snake, every extra hit was just brutal. But I am happy to see HP Electric get some shine.
HP Electric was definitely not the first one that I tried. I'm happy it ended up being the choice because I use it so rarely. That R2 league was rough and Arbok's more "all-rounder" kind of feel gave him such an easier time. Poor Seviper. So strong, but not against teams of Earthquakes.
Did you know that Seviper backwards is cobrA?
What the... what??? Hold on, I just have to shove my brain back in my head.
Pre-watch: Arbok wins. It has more bulk, speed, and a much better growth rate. It's only barely worse in terms of attack, and Seviper's superior SpA wouldn't even help much because it's just too slow and frail to hit first or not get destroyed when it fails to.
PS. Called it.
24:44 It's not THAT lucky. The chances of Sleep Powder hitting without activating Shed Skin are 3/4 * 2/3 = 1/2, so congrats, you won a coin toss.
Arbok's more "all-rounder" feel gave it a lot more durability, and therefore options I felt. That frailty of Seviper, combined with ALL the of the Earthquakes was too much for it.
Fair enough! I'll take that coin toss though. Every Pokémon player out there knows that even 90% can sometimes feel like 10%.
Round 1 vers misty was odd you saying bite while spamming poison fang lol still won but that might have actually made a difference
I must have used at least one Bite! I could've sworn... First playthroughs are never my cleanest :) Thanks!
day 15, although it's been almost 3 months but I don't care, everything will be worth it, I hope you put my name at the end of the video, although it's not necessary.
I can do you one better than that, I think. I'm still not quite ready to run it, but I'm getting closer by the week :) thank you I appreciate it as always.
@@Eggsceptional☺☺☺☺☺☺
Im gunna guess mid 60s for both on the first run
I wish! The Round 1 league was fairly tame, but that Round 2 league was a real killer for these two. Thanks :)
0:50 u scared the shit out of me -.-
The die rolling? My bad! I feel I've gotten a lot better with my audio over the last few months. Things are less abrupt these days
Wait.. apparently I didn't watch this video and left the irrelevant comment.
Wow this run was as painful as the eggsecute run! That wicked looking nagaina did you bad lol it's so comical to see nagaina dashing through the game in the early-early end stages and then hitting the HARD WALL in the champion league. Nagaina you treacherous snek.. and but uh sorry but I do enjoy when runs go like this and you resort to throwing things into your software.. and suffer from grinding😅😅😅😅😅😆😆😆😆😆 plsdontbanme
Slow, no defense, and weak to Earthquake isn't the best combo for success in these games 😅 I don't blame you at all! I love that I can find these struggles and show them off so that others don't have to 😁
Wow, this is interesting. Seviper is obviously stronger, but earning so little exp later on absolutely crippled it. Who thought it was a good idea to put it on a exp group worse than the Legendaries'? There's a reason they stopped using the Fluctuating exp group after Gen 3.
I was expecting more from Seviper, but that R2 league was absolutely brutal. I wonder what prompted the introduction of Fluctuating/Erratic anyway? In FR, pursuing R2 anyway, I find Erratic to be quite nice to play with! Fluctuating.. less so. Thanks :)
Ofcourse Seviper should triump since it does evolve from Arbok 😉
Arbviper? Sevbok? This is the second comment about that evolution. I feel like I've missed something :)
There was an episode in the Advanced Generation anime where on a trainer's choice question, they claimed that Arbok evolves into Seviper.
Being a kid back then, it felt like a rather scandalous error by Pokémon. I remember trying to level up my traded Arbok in Pokémon Ruby but it just failed to evolve.
@@shardulsule Ahh gotcha. I never made it that far past the original Kanto episodes in the anime myself. Thanks for letting me know.
Sounds like one of those old "Mew glitch" type situations. I can't quite recall how many hours I spent trying to use Strength on that truck... but it was too many :P
rule breach run over DQ'D! ...Lol just kidding
Nooooo!! I thought I could get away with it!! :P
My guesses for HP:
Seviper: Electric
Arbok: Bug
Well done with Seviper! I don't remember anyone in the premiere chat guessing it. Nobody went with Electric for Seviper.
It hurt because the reason I used Rock with Bok was for the accuracy AND PP, then totally neglected my PP Ups until R2.
@@Eggsceptional Sadeness. I just assumed you were going have issues with coverage against lance for seviper and tyranitar/psychic as arbok. Guess I can get half lucky sometimes.
I should really just assume you want rock for any physical attackers at this point because of how good its coverage (and how awful the ghastly line is to hit before physical-special split)
@@dragonspight It's an unfortunate truth, but yes. I feel like HP Rock/Rock Slide will be very common on my physical attackers simply because of how well it covers the leagues. People fault me for liking Rock Slide and its low accuracy but I don't have anything better!
Why do you pronounce se-viper like sev-iper...?
Sev-en, sev-eral, sev-ere. It felt much more natural to pronounce it that way. English is so weird :)
@@Eggsceptional but a viper is a kind of snake. 😅
@@mrmittenns5728 Rules surrounding names break my brain a bit. I actually Googled this pronunciation and found that both were mentioned as being "correct". Eggtato Eggtato? :P
Seviper HP fighting for that TTar!!! (Just my guess)
It was among the first that I test yep! What a strange run this ended up being. I would not have chosen HP Electric without testing it as much as I did. Thanks :)
Not a true Harry Potter fan cause you didn’t name seviper nagini.
I had thought about it but I didn't want to lean fully into Harry Potter. I needed a nickname theme to carry into this week's follow up video after all :)
Common best snake win
It's all those darn Earthquakes!
no shark for you 🙁
Baby shark do do do dooo..
Wait... Why no shark? :(
@@Eggsceptional try translating shark to german...^^
@@aryana1879 OMG HAI!!!!!! :)
@@Eggsceptional Hi :)
Egg!
Ceptional :)
Lv. 12
Hmm.. I did go sliiightly higher than that. But if you're guessing for Brock you're very close :)
Before watching im sure snake win but i am more team kobrA
I hope I did kobrA proud! That R2 league was nasty.
@@Eggsceptional waiting for zangoose but with sword dance on lvl 10 we already know winner
@@winek2036 It's been an absolute menace as a solo runner. Being in the Erratic group too is great.
It's a snek off
If only I could have included more sneks!
@@Eggsceptional Gyarados vs Milotic is round 2 of the Gen 1 vs Gen 3 Snek Off!
@@TheMoogleKing93 I feel like the water sneks are going to perform a liiiittle bit better :D
Make ur Seviper a girl and teach her attract
It's true there are a disproportionate number of male Pokémon, particularly in the R2 league. I've only resorted to Attract once, in my Chinchou/Lanturn video. I could have gone for it absolutely, but it would be very luck based.
@@Eggsceptionaltrue but attract plus substitute is pretty consistent even if it is luck based
@@raymondwilson855 That's fair enough! I remember that being the case from Lanturn. It very well might be the case that it would have gotten me through faster, particularly if I didn't have to grind like that with Seviper. It broke my brain solving that one.