A Retro Gaming Waste Of Money?! Taito Egret II Mini Arcade Final Thoughts!
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
- The Taito Egret II Mini a waste of money?
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That's an unusually high amp requirement for a device like this. You're right, they should have included the brick with it.
With all the returns they'll get it will help them learn a valuable lesson
a pi 4 power is 5v 3a so im thinking thats a good option
It's on par with the requirements of a Raspberry Pi, and this also has a screen and a set of speakers to power up. I kinda get the idea not to supply a PSU. You need to take into account all various socket types in different countries, current and frequency. You can buy one that fits in your wall at your closest supermarket. And many people already have fast chargers for their phones with high enough specs.
I have already seen this on RUclips running retroarch. If this becomes widely available via sd(surely it will). This thing will be incredible. I was interested in sega astro mini too but the lack of hacking so far and smaller 16:9 screen put me off. The new vertical one seems better though
I really wanted Taito Egret, it’s a nice mini arcade package but held off due to cost. Thought about just the unit itself but ultimately wanted all pieces but too expensive. I have the Sega Astro Mini & NeoGeo mini Christmas Edition which gets the most play. That Sega Astro V really got my attention so funds for Taito Egret got redirected to that. Ty for you’re updating on this, very informative.
neo Geo mini has a great selection of game but the build quality is absolute garbage. the joystick and buttons are a joke
I actually bought this for my 8 year old daughter. She is going to be able to utilize one of her all pink dual Hello Kitty monitors vertically with it! Haha. She absolutely loves playing trackball games also. We are hoping one day there will be a way to add more games than what’s included. Will she like the games compared to the Switch? Hell no! It’s just another way for her to play a quick game or two. She will probably use it like she uses the Mario bros Game and watch. I can definitely see it not being for very many people though.
It has been hacked. Check out Team Pandory’s video.
If this was back in the PS2 era all of these games would be thrown onto a mass market disc with a $20 MSRP -- which is the way it should be. I feel that we've lost sight of that fact.
Screw this. Emulate it.
@@lady1kaka Eh, I'll just play my PS2 copies of Taito Legends Volumes I&II, which contain about 70 games total which I got for $19 per volume at Circuit City back when value meant something.
If If If… this isnt the ps2 era
@@MrPotteeMouf Standards were set, then betrayed. A big part of that is millennials and gen Y fresh into the game, and not being accustomed to how things used to be, got caught slipping and allowed developers/publishers to set a new rate year after year and so called collectors lining up at the trough with dollars on hand. Of course the other part of that is the advent of digital distribution, which has done equal damage to good.
@@UToobin75 ah yes, the baby boomer generation is the one that hit the mark. What, with the Atari 2600 going for about 800+ adjusted for inflation or the comparatively tame NES at 400$+ on release, as well as being the generation that had the intellivision that would go for past 1,000$ today. But it's not like things are today, where a console that's complete in box with a number of digital peripherals and completely unique miniature design featuring screen swapping and includes 40 games is sold from about 260-450$ depending on the amount of things bought for it.
I'm not ecstatic about paying a large premium either, but at the very least have some understanding about how inflation works and recognize the absolute ridiculous prices of gaming over the years.
I expect the Astro City V will be the best yet, and saving money for that instead. I got the Neo Geo and controller as a toy and display because it’s cheaper. I don’t play it loads but I’m glad to have found some of the games, especially Shock Troopers. That Taito thing is just too expensive.
Isn't the AC V a lot more than the Egret 2 though? I was interested because I loved the first AC, but for what is basically the exact same device they have bumped up the price by a ridiculous amount.
@@subcon959 yes, it is about 3500 yens more than the Egret mini and no, it's not justified since the Egret mini is technically superior in terms of features, but I'll still get the Astro City V probably because I want to have all 3 of them.
I'm loving mine. Firstly I'm a big Taito fan anyway,, but the icing on the cake for me is I got the spinner/trackball pack too. A joy to play Arkanoid with a spinner, and the bonus is that I'll be able to use the trackball on PC to finally play Marble madness correctly. No problems with power or bugs related to that via USB. The games selection for me is 80/20 in favour of overall quality. Can't wait until it gets properly hacked.
I agree 💯 ! ARKANOID with the spinners is worth all the money in my book !
I've got most of these games on Taito Legends vol.1&2 for the PS2, I picked up both of them second hand for less than £10. This is a cool little thing and I love the rotating screen but the price is insane!
My issue with the more recent ones are that here in America, I have to pay extra to even be able to get them.
On top of that, the American versions released by limited run just got swept right away.
I'm not paying $200+ for this. They are a fun novelty. Too expensive to be a spontaneous buy.
I wanted the sega astro city mini. THe gamegear micro.
But the asking price to America just isn't worth the novelty.
Strictly Limited has PLENTY of these things still available.
@@belowboyt9876 yeah because it is ridiculously overpriced that's why and also buying it from them you won't get it until 2023 sometime as their shipping times are an even bigger pisstake than Limited Runs are
I have the japanese version: No lag, no problem with power supply. Just the spinner from trackball/paddle feels weird sometimes, and the DPAD from the standard controller pad is bad. Expensive though
Did you adjust the paddle in the in-game setting.
Are the games generally all a mix of Japanese and English on the Jap model? I can't get the English release, so tempted to get the JAP import.
Can you test out if the arcade stick for the EGRET works for the Sega Astro city mini?
Thank you for your honest reviews. And, I agree about the power supply. It's bullshit that these companies don't include power bricks. It's not like the power bricks are huge money. Why not include them with the unit? Who the fuck sells an electronic device that can't be powered up? Include the power brick for fuck sakes.
It's a Japan thing. Even the Famicom didn't come with a power supply all those decades ago.
I’ve been using my ipad 5v 12 watt 2.4 amp power brick and it is working perfectly.
This thing looks amazing.
But for a fair price. $150 max.
And I would want to hack it to put more arcade emulators or trackball games.
Sadly, I don't know how to softmod it.
The rotating screen is way too awesome. I wanted to Astro City mini have it.
My issue with all these minis is screen size.
I prefer large screens. If a screen is too small, it Makes it way harder to do well. You are right. The power supply should have been included. I will most definitely not buy the Segs Astro mini. Screen is too small. Way better than these minis are the arcade 1 ups.
Arcade 1up is cheap junk. Made poorly
Can you test the Egret controller and arcade stick on the Astro city mini? I hould like to know if they work since the Astro city mini controller and arcade stick do work on the Egret mini.. Thanks =)
Cool device... will probably get one... when I can get it for around $125. I'm more interested in seeing those external arcade controllers for use on the MiSTer... like can you use the ball for Centipede? How does it work? How bout the barrel wheel? Time Soldier? Forgotten Worlds? Any good?
I had the exact same power problem with the Astro City Mini when it came out. My solution was to buy a better quality power brick which adjusts power and current to the plugged in device.
This device looks solid, but is lacking in the games department. I was slow to the Astro City, but have grown to love it. Taito has the back catalogue to make this work, but didn’t come through IMO.
Screen rotation is great but like others have said the price is a joke. Plus the separate arcade stick seems poor compared to the astro city mini arcade stick, which is a joy to use.
As far as why it costs $200. I think most of the manufacturing costs goes into the rotating screen. I imagine a lot of effort went into tooling and design to make sure the screen moved and functioned just right. Otherwise I don't see much of a difference between this and the Astro City mini. If I had extra money, I wouldn't mind having one of these and a paddle controller. It reminds me of the paddle controller attachment for the DS that I imported from Japan back in the day.
Now that acessory is rare
You get the same with the Sega Astro City Mini. If you hook that up to your PC USB port it just doesn't work properly.
I'm not destined to own one of these. If I had that kind of cash available, I'd put it into an Xbox Series S... it would get a hell of a lot more use. What I will say is that if you want to pinch pennies while getting a fair amount of the games on this system, just go with the Legend Gamer Pro instead. I think even the smaller $50 version of that system has at least a dozen Taito games as well.
This thing ain't worth $500. I can build my own mini emulation cabinet out of a modded Arcade1up countercade cabinet shell for half that price.
Not to mention that price is the cost for a PS5 (if you could find one). I feel like the niche product this is at that price, as you said, would just build a Pi cabinet that would be bigger and more accurate to an actual arcade.
To bad the CounterCade is ugly af. There are billions of ways to play these games. The cost for just the egret 2 is 206 after shipping. When you add all the accessories is when it’s costing up to 500. Some people are simply buying to collect like art. Is it worth that much to everyone? No, but either is a1ups or other home arcades. To each his own.
@@randyiron2 If I'm going to collect something that costs up to $500, it better come with a sold gold stamped Taito coin and a platinum bezel around the edges of the cabinet. Otherwise it's just another mini plastic arcade toy to me.
@@eyesofascension8678 again, it’s 206 after being shipped from Japan. A1ups are about the same price and made from cheap wood. It is expensive but in the same ballpark as the others. I’m not saying you’re wrong but I do look at it differently than you. I can see where some think it’s not worth it.
@@randyiron2 I said "up to" $500. I didn't say that was the flat MSRP cost. "Up to" includes accessories, shipping, etc. I also said in my original post that the arcade1up cabinet would be modded not stock. I get what you're saying but i still don't see the collectable value in these things. I don't see these accumulating any value in the future but we shall see.
I got mine on sale for $150 and had the same problem with the USB power brick because my USB power supply is actually high spec enough, but the handshake for the power supply wasn't working with the device so it only gave it 5V1A which is way too low. So I got my Pi4 USB brick 5.1V 3A and now it works great. I can't agree more, they should have shipped the unit with the power brick because the Pi USB brick was only $5 so in that price range to cheap on something so low to get the units back because of the "faulty units" just because of the issues with the USB bricks are hilarious
My smallest USB adapter is 6.5 amps...You can basically plug it into everything worth owning.
These things are all about the cool toy factor and not the games themselves. You can literally play all these games for free on MAME if that's all you're interested in. As a cool toy, it's a pretty kickass device. BTW, the early units that went out to RUclipsrs didn't have the sticker on the bottom and there was no mention of the power requirements anywhere. That's why there was a big fuss as they assumed it would be just like every other mini so far.
Try playing ARKANOID properly without a SPINNER !
Your music always takes me back to the 90s!! Gets me jamming!!
Good point. What makes this system different than similarly priced (yet larger) games like AtGames? Nuthin’
i recently got a good deal on this machine but wondering does the wingman sd converter work on black metal and darius? I tried the mayflash magic ns 2 but for some reason it wont work on certain games but works on others
I used a 2amp 5V supply and it seemed to work fine, and my unit says 5V 2A on the bottom. I did notice a bit of lag when using my Astro City stick, assumed it was just how the SBC was handling usb, but I guess the 2.4Amps on the box accounts for peripherals and the 2Amps on the bottom doesn't. Should have checked the box! I'll give it a try with a higher wattage power supply and see if the lag when using a stick is reduced. Still really like it, the rotating screen is cool, but I think its value is just in being a neat way to play these games, if you aren't into the games and the form factor it's definitley going to be a waste of money for you. I like having it on my desk to play a little bit of Tatsujin during breaks at work. Looking forward ot the Astro city V.
Not surprised they're not selling. You can just make one with a RP for way way less and have way more options.
The $500 sets from Strictly Limited - Way too much. $175ish for a curated experience and high quality hardware, even as specialized as it is. It's pretty dope. Especially if you are not readily aware of these specific games. Some pretty good obscure games in there.
Was it Metal Jesus? I saw his video and he mentioned that he had issues until he asked someone and the Power brick was the culprit.
That's because he tried using a USB C Mini Dock marketed specifically for a Nintendo Switch that's expecting a USB C Power Delivery spec device to be plugged into it. He was not using just any normal USB charging brick. The dock probably saw the Mini Arcade and when it didn't communicate what kind of power to send it. It defaulted to a mode that didn't provide enough juice. I guess I sort of understand his confusion but partly it's on him for not understanding the kind of devices he uses on a day to day basis.
The cost is prohibitive, takes it out of impulse buy territory. I could get 70 Hamster games for the same price.
I play mine hooked up to a monitor every weekend. Wish I can show a video of my setup here.. I’m happy, my only complaint is that the spinner is kinda sus trash
For 200 dollars, I can import from Buyee a neo geo mini console with two controllers and shipping included and I still have change.
They could have put better speakers in it, despite being bigger i think the Astro City looks better and has better games because they are Sega, as well as a taller control panel.
I really wish they included the Taito Memories collections. Thankfully, these aren’t flying off the shelves and I’ll be able to find one for this Christmas 🦄
but do the taito controllers work on the astro city mini?
I could see this being a waste of money if someone already owns the Taito legends collections on the PS2 or Xbox. Otherwise it should be a good buy.
I've had zero issues RE power with any of my power supplies or even portable batteries. Like you, I got the unit from Japan. Assuming the individual you refer to. About 99 confident I've seen his video I believe he had the non Japan version... Maybe something some how got lost in translation? Pun intended. Still excited to see a hack done on this in the future. Apparently someone did crack it already! Hopefully something will come public soon..
the evercade gamepad semi works with dpad but only one button registering :(
Have you tried the 8bitdo arcade stick on it? If so I might just get the base unit. Thanks!
This speaks to me as I played all of these games growing up and have fond nostalgic memories of Rastan, Truxton, and Halley's Comet to name just a few. Sell me yours if you decide to dump it! 🤪
Taito could fix that issue by not being cheapskates and provide us with a power supply for the hundreds of dollars being spent.
Did you try with generic switch/ios/android controls? Being based on Linux, they should be compatible. I understand that the gamesir brand controller works
Ron do you know if anyone sells the correct power supply that we should be using with it? I know Metal Jesus talked about that but didn’t offer a specific solution.
On the entire the price being to high, I would have to agree I was super interested in picking one up as a collectible item kind of deal to sit on the shelf as I have a massive thing for arcade games but the price is just too much. For one thing I know I'd just end up playing any of the games on the thing on MAME using my arcade stick and for something that's basically going to be an over glorified knickknack sitting on a shelf 99% of the time it just isn't worth picking up. Hell as much as they want for the large bundle deal you can get some of the cheaper arcade PCBs out there for that kind of price.
I really was intrested in buying this when it was annouced but when I saw the price tag, I just had to let it pass. I mean, I own most of the games on it except for a few I never intend to play so picking one up for the sake of having one? Not for me atm, maybe later if I can pick it up secondhand somewhere for a good deal. I also heard of the power problem on it a few days ago. I don't get why they don't include a correct usb powerbrick with it.
I almost bought it but I don’t play my other mini one that limited run put out I have to tell myself I can’t keep buying things I don’t use lol only mini arcades I’m buying here on out are new wave. Speaking of new wave today’s the last day to get in on space ace or Dragon’s Lair if you missed it
For that money got to 100% agree a PSU should have been included.
They look cool but super expensive - shame it's price is so high, unfortunately it will most likely become a bit of a sales flop.
I'll stick with both Taito Legends collections on PS2 and the odd PSN download (Ninja Warriors) for my old school Taito arcade fix. ✌️
You should totally have the option to expand your game library on these systems through an online store.
If someone is a huge fan of some of the games on this console then I can understand purchasing it, but at that price point, with a non expandable game library I just do not see the value with this.
Wonder if this will be one of those items that is worth tons in a few years because no one bought them when they came out
I wouldn't sell mine unless loan sharks were threatening my life !
Such a shame you feel this way about the Egret II mini, it has an incredible selection of games and many of my old arcade favorites.
Which stand alone joystick accessory did you think was better, the egret or the astro city?
I like the idea of a rotating screen, but I'll probably just stick with a Picade.
I've bought them all to cram a Raspberry Pi or an FGPA inside when the time comes 😏
Those arcade candy cabs were meant to install any hardware we want when they were initially released.
Yep, just too expensive for me. And its just too small, if it was "medium" size, for the price... I would perhaps consider it. But as is, just no way I would dish out for it.
This would be great for a office, get a quick fix in between meetings.
I want it bad just so I can play Arkanoid PROPERLY ,like I used to do in the arcades in the 90s ,with a SPINNER ! (special controller which has 10 extra games including Arkanoid !) It's nigh IMPOSSIBLE to play it without a spinner ! Plus the system is cheaper on Amazon, not that other ripoff site , and I can't be bothered with emulators and how would I use a spinner with them anyway , right ? Exactly .
Retrogaming was not a waste of money when it was a niche hobby and plenty of stock. Until SNS and their stupid hipsters followers, most were not even born when these games got released, followed the trend.
As a result, prices are now insane, all the retroshop in Tokyo got raided and the hobby is now a waste of money and time.
70000Yen for Neogeo in good shape when I got my capcom minicute almost brand new back in 2008 for half of that price.
StreetFighter2 Turbo PCB was 6000Yen.
The best option now, is getting MiSTer FPGA and call it a day, if you can find one, since they got raided too.
Does the Mayflash F500 work with this?
If you’re interested, and want to save a few buck, buy one from Amazon Japan
👍
That’s what I did
Yep, I definitely saved money getting the discounted price which was under MSRP
@@TyWashdaddy I don't like the Japanese writing on the screen !
I agree with the price being too high on the main unit and the extra parts.
Love to get one but just can't budget it.
I'm just going to wait for the Taito collection 2 to come out. You know it's going to happen.
Didn’t you sell this already on your website? Do you have two?
Do u sell the stuff you get like super console x type stuff?All those retro players??
Analog pocket dock is the same way. Need to use the right power supply
As everybody else has said. Overpriced for what you get. Maybe if you could hack and add more games then you'll probably get more value use and value out of it. Or if the bundled controllers can be used on other devices?
Can you do a tutorial on how to add more games
I just bought an iiRcade for nearly the same price as this. Does this feel like I wasted money after buying that. YES. After I play it. It probably going to sit on top of that iiRcade. Lucky money can be made again.
Oh I have been trying to get a refund from Gamerocket, but they have like 0 customer service. I actually want to buy it from Strictly Limited instead because you get more for the money.
I do like the look of it but I think the novelty is definitely wearing off. In perspective I built my bartop for less than £300. I still want one though even though it will never get used.
I love mine, the tate mechanism never gets old. Plus I thought 130 quid delivered was an alright price for it. People are getting shocked by the bundle prices but you can just buy the mini on it's own direct from Amazon JP.
Nice MEXICO monitor, Ron ;D
These are just novelty items for the 'collectards' to display on their shelves and social media. The ridiculously small form factor, the limited selection of games and stupidly high prices are reflective of a 'novelty' or 'collectible' items. There are better emulation devices FWIW.
Try playing ARKANOID properly without a SPINNER !
Taito is a small subcity within Tokyo
I'd pay for a modern full sized astro city.
This is a lot cheaper now. $159 on Amazon. $24 for a controller. I think it did not sell that well.
It’s a steal now
@@MarioNuts Yeah. I went ahead and got it with the trackball/spinner controller. You can also use that controller on MAME with an adapter. The controller is really worth it because of that.
Very cool, games look awesome...but too expensive. If this comes down around $100 I'll think about it...
Maybe people should read the instructions as it clearly states what the power requirements are for it even if you can't read japanese they are still able to be figured out. Always seems to be americans bitching about everything not having a usb brick included. Just cough up the money and buy one decent one to power everything you own and if you can't afford one then you should really be rethinking why you are buying expensive novelties if money is that tight.
Are u going to cover Sony blunder- gran tourism on metacritic user score, reviewers getting non micro transaction version
Can build a full size cabinet for $500. The price is crazy.
Just buy an Evercade VS, Handheld and most of the games for the same price?
Egret II? More like Regret II am I right folks?....Folks??
with sd card input , might be hacked. also if the trackball can work on pc mame might make this a goto device
I had the same thought: if you to just want to play these games, a Pi is, by far, the best way.
Try playing ARKANOID properly without a SPINNER !
Can you add your own game?
This thing is neat but for that price and how much I would use it, I don't think it is worth it.
Nice piece of technic but to me it's too expensive.
Powkiddy A12 - Cheaper, bigger screen, more games, better controls.
Try playing ARKANOID properly without a SPINNER !
no scanline filter. Very bad, Taito
I enjoy mine.
I think the price is way too high. It would seem like it they were $100, they would be selling off the shelf!
I buy this 'cause I'm collecting mini consoles, but man, you're right, it's so expensive, and Taito don't have enough good games.
LOL "Taito don't have enough good games" Riiiiight.
@@SuperGamesLegend Well, it has lots of good games but not enough as a Super Nintendo for example.
Came from the metaljesus video lol
I would get one but its too small 😔
At least is not that so bad as an intellivision amico 🙀
Its a really cool concept, I just can't justify the price
Thanks.