2024 Mazda CX-90 vs. 2023 Kia Telluride | Three-Row SUV Head-to-Head | Driving Impressions & More!
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- Опубликовано: 24 июл 2024
- With the 2024 Mazda CX-90, the brand hopes to dethrone the current king of the midsize three-row SUV class: the excellent 2023 Kia Telluride. The CX-90 brings sweet new powertrains, a premium interior, and a stylish design to the fight, but is that enough to topple the Telluride? Find out with Edmunds’ Lauren McCay and Emme Hall in our comparison test above!
Kia Telluride pricing & review: edmu.in/3Qx1VKo
Mazda CX-90 pricing & review: edmu.in/3kWMwrS
00:00 Intro
01:13 Telluride Walk-Around
03:45 CX-90 Walk-Around
05:28 Telluride Driving Impressions
07:48 CX-90 Driving Impressions
10:44 Edmunds' Take
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Mazda's CX-90 brings more power and an emphasis on driving dynamics to a class usually known more for practicality and comfort. Is that a winning formula for you? Let us know in the comments.
Thank you for the comparison, mesdames! Also, Lauren & Emme, did you drive these on a longer road trip (2-4 hours)? If so, which is the less butt-numbing?
I have a telluride but tried a cx90 for a spin. And wow the driving dynamics was like a BMW or Mercedes the handling was just perfection
But it's way down on interior space and cargo capacity compared to the Kia. most families will see more value in that than the Mazda's superior handling and better acceleration.
Didn't expect Mazda's new platform has German-like driving dynamic and handling. Both the front and rear suspensions are independent. I heard that CX-90 chassis is really impressive at driving twisty winding roads from many reviewers. I have to agree that Mazda is infamous when it comes to interior space and cargo space compared with its competitions, and that's always the case.
Have to tell you, I drove a CX-9 on the mountain twisties going to Yosemite via the eastern approach, and I forgot that I was driving an SUV. There was a GLE behind me who couldn't keep up when we were in the twisties, but outpowered the CX9 in the straights.
I like the CX-90 better, all the technology disadvantage is not a deal breaker for me. I prefer the extra power, ride and handling, and fun factor over extra tech.
I get yea, but most people will see the Telluride as having better value, space for families and cargo, better tech and better warranty. Just an overall package as a minivan alternative. Even though the Mazda will handle better and offers more power I'm guessing it's not going to be enough to dethrone the Kia. (ps: don't own either or need one)
@@MIZUNOMP60 The Telluride is really nice and I have shopped around for one myself, but my kids are grown now and It's just me these days. My favorite mid-sized is not in this video and that's the Ford Explorer ST.
@@MIZUNOMP60 kia and hyaundai are literally burning up
@@mbenton6How many?
@@mbenton6Wouldn't the government ban dangerous products?
The harping on Mazda's UI/tech is always a bit much in my opinion. A vast majority of people are just going to use AA/CarPlay and only interact with the native system when first setting up the car and when using the camera systems.
I was looking for this comment! Thanks for sharing! I totally agree!
100% this
The lack of any real lane tracing sucks, but otherwise the tech is just fine for me. I tried the rotary dial in a CX-90 test drive and I have zero issues having to use the rotary dial to operate the infotainment. To me, it's a bonus that my infotainment display won't be covered in fingerprints all the time
You might find out that Mazda has possibly the safest infotainment system compared to other brands. According to German studies, Mazda3 has the safest infotaimnet in those six compact cars, then its 1-series, then Golf. Tesla Model 3 has the most dangerous infotainment. This study would imply that rotary dial is safer than touching the screen when driving.
For 2023 model year, the fully digital gauge cluster is finally available. CX-90 has an amazing turning circle.
Great job on the video!
Love the vids
Mazda builds superior vehicles that are focused on the driving experience, and dependability.
Hyundai / KIA prefer to dazzle with fallible “features.”
If you’re considering either brand, do your homework and see what owners say about their long term ownership experience.
Why in all these comparisons do they only test the turbo s version of the cx90? From a price perspective, wouldn’t the 280 hp turbo be a more fair comp?
...agree. I want to see the sub-$49k "base" trim w/a few options go at these comparos. if the base non-phev i6 can do well, then moving up trims should make you feel better because you want to, not because you have to....
It's a good question. The answer is that automakers typically load up media launch events with high-spec vehicles to show off all of a new model's available features and to wow reviewers. Those same vehicles then get disbursed into press fleets nationwide, leading to an unusually high-end model mix available to journalists for the first 6-12 months. Lower-spec trims often follow them into fleets in subsequent model years.
Thanks you two!! Saw a white CX90 the other day...Great body lines!! Sleek!!
Well done ladies well Done outstanding review.
I’d get the Cx90 no question.
Has anyone ever purchased a Telluride for sticker? That has to be factored in the price comparison, Mazda's infotainment is the best and safest once you learn how to use it, I owned a CX9, loved it, I wanted to test drive a Telluride, but couldn't find one on a lot to drive, Mazda took too long to deliver the CX90, so I ended up with a new Pathfinder Platinum, very nice. But I do miss the Mazda infotainment control knob everything at your finger tips,
I like CX-90 no doubt 👊
I love the verdict from both ladies. Lauren Was 10 toes down for the telluride from the beginning and she even doubled down at the end when she mentioned it was a no brainer for her...Telluride. Emme's decision was funny because we know she loves the Cx-90 but she couldn't resist the EST of the 3 row Crossover class that is the Kia Telluride.
If I was a lone driver with a smaller family, I'd take the CX-90. However since I have to bring additional stuff (and sometimes people) when the family is out, then the additional space in Telluride is what I'll appreciate even more. When you have to fit two child/booster seats while still need enough space for the in-laws, you'll find out just how precious room to maneuver is. That being said I wish more automakers offered bench seats for the middle row in the top trims.
Why do you get a 3 row if you are the lone driver? Get a minivan if you really need space.
@@GooseVan I only see 2 SUV's in this review.
Same. I held back from getting a MDX after hearing all the hype about the CX90, but was disappointed in the end when there was no second row bench seat available in top trim. I normally carry five people and the third row only comes out when family comes during the summer for seven in total. With the CX90 I would have to leave someone behind 🤦♂️
Family is about to grow and I am in this exact situation. This helps
Mazda put too much effort into style but very little into practicality. Kia quality is not up there yet to spend $55k. I think I'll start looking closer at the Grand Highlander because we all love the way Mazda tunes their vehicles, and they look very well, but an SUV is meant to be practical. That's what Kia achieved with the boxier look. It's simple geometry.
100%, Kia just nailed it with packaging. It's the perfect minivan alternative. The Mazda will handle and accelerate better but overall, the Kia offers more bang for your buck
@@MIZUNOMP60 the Toyota Grand Highlander and Honda Pilot caught up already. No need to throw money on a dubious quality brand anymore. But at least Kia did a magnificent job at setting the bar when it comes to practicality, style and features. We no longer need to buy a horrendous mini van to transport 8 people thanks to Kia!
Could we have better reviewers please
Thanks for the attempt to compare, but could not hear enough about the noise insulation, ride comfort , to say the least. Also, when speaking about the driving impressions, why do you focus so much on some other topics such as the infotainment, etc Overall, it could be a bit more to the described point.
For me it's the mazda
Mine too..
All day
Agree. Mazda all day long.
That's why are two different products and that's good.
For me as a father of a family, I took the Kia, , especially with those white seats 😅
I test drove the CX-90 PHEV PP yesterday. It was nice, but my goodness did Mazda forget about storage. There’s no place to put wallet/keys/etc, unless you put them in the center console that’s about 3 inches deep. And under the trunk lid, there’s virtually no space. No center console in the second row either.
yeh but can you get the Telluride promptly and at MSRP or below?
Sure can, auto trader is one source to name a few…
Nice review. I love the Mazda though.
Nah, most people do not need big SUVs. The 3rd row is generally a just in case row (likely never to be used). I would go for the premium plus CX90 which has the slightly less powerful engine at $47,500. The Mazda is likely more reliable as well.
Style queens! 💅🏾
61k for a Mazda? Lol. Those things will be sitting on the lot
That's for a fully loaded mazda that literally keeps head to head with Mercedes gle 450 and bwm x5 in performance and has all the nice materials interior wise as well. And the cx90 starts at $40k with 280hp still available. Much more into cx9 price range.
Every Telluride I've driven had some weird mid row chassis flex. Then combine that with the Kia/Hyundai theft and fire lawsuits and ridiculous dealer markups on the Telluride I'll take the Mazda.
Its the CX 90 for me...
CX-90 🖤
Give me a Mazda 787B!
...you would need a pit crew in a cx-90 everywhere you go...plus you can't be too tall; not to mention the drone at freeway speeds
Emmy, love the hair... do they hand out base trims from the press fleet? I want to see a "base" non-phev 276hp i6 cx-90. it doesn't have to be poverty spec, but I like to see the sub-49k cx-90 as I have real apprehension to giving in to dealers' demands for "top shelf or nothing". because if the cx-90 can slay it in the entry trims, it will destroy it in mid and upper trims....
Unfortunately, the answer is generally no -- at least not at this early stage in the vehicle's life. Automakers typically load up media launch events with high-spec vehicles to show off all of a new model's available features and to wow reviewers. Those same vehicles then get disbursed into press fleets nationwide, leading to an unusually high-end model mix available to journalists for the first 6-12 months. Lower-spec trims often follow them into fleets in subsequent model years.
@@RiceCzechs...yep, I get it, dazzle w/all the bells and whistles. the phev would suit our needs just fine (lots of short in town trips less than 5 miles) and tip the scales just over 50k w/an option or two. however, the base trim again w/a few options could do the same thing just w/extra gasoline and be just as nice for $5k less
I think you underplay the PHEV option on the CX90. That's a big deal to have the option to drive all electric, and otherwise get superior gas mileage for a car of this size.
Kia touts the 2023 Telluride's 5000 lb towing capacity (5,500 with the x-pro) but avoids telling you that they don't offer a tow hitch option. You can buy after market options but they require a complex installation (particularly for the harness wiring) and minor surgery to the rear bumper trim. This is something I haven't seen any reviewers mention but can be a deal breaker for anyone who's buying a larger SUV like this and hoping to use it for actually towing.
You were NOT able to squeeze 23 combined out of that smelluride.
Price is not always the determining factor. Unless I compare apples to apples. The material in the Kia are far less inferior to the Mazda. The driving dynamics of the Mazda are far more superior. Plus in my humble opinion only, the Kia since it first came out, especially the fascia is the ugliest midsize SUV I have even laid eyes on. The tech of the Mazda may be lagging but the longevity of the Kia and the problems that Kia/Hyundai have lately outweigh the lesser price. If u had a choice between the Kia and the Audi Q7 which starts at $15,000 more would I chose the Kia. No, definitely not. I never understood the hype of the telluride or the Palisade. The are nothing special. I think they have a great marketing department, that's all, bc value, I don't see it.
Thanks your idea is great edmunds love korean cars if they review 2015 korean cars that loved by the kia boys they will recommend that car i really don't know why but they love kshit cars. That's why savagegeese don't recommend korean cars
Completely agree 💯
If price want a factor you wouldn’t be looking at the Kia nor the Mazda… the German competitors out perform and handle both so…
@@TheKasai23the mazda is actually just as fast as the bmw and Mercedes offerings. And actually handles corners better. It's only missing air suspension. Which to me is a win it doesn't have it. Most manufacturers rely on air suspension to be too perfect even though most tend to feel numb and always have problems eventually but they're just cool while they last and are expensive to replace and a bit unnecessary.
@@know916boundWhat Mercedes? GLE 350? Because 580 had over 400 horse power and not speaking about GLE 43 & 63s respectively. Mercedes has way more options so BMW does, and you simply can’t compare Mazda with German automakers.
9:03 to 9:38 at least I am grateful I don’t need to touch the Mazda CX90 because I like how Mazda did not let you touch the screen because we don’t want nasty fingerprint on our clean fresh design touchecreen
Performance is always on the list
I'm so tired of just about every reviewer ever complaing about the tech in Mazdas. Specifically, there not being a touch screen and needing to use the wheel control knob. Good grief. Now granted, this is coming a multiple Mazda owner. Lol.
My daughter drives a 2019 CX5 and loves the control knob. Says it took about 1 week to master.
You'd have to be real dumb not to be able to use the wheel. And it's way better than a touchscreen while driving.
I agree with you wholeheartedly on the interior space comparison and that a 3 row SUV should have more than Mazda offers. However I very much disagree with your tech assessment and seemingly both loving a touchscreen so much. There are very good reasons Mazda has the rotary dial selector and NOT a touchscreen for everything. Have you ever tried Audi and the MMI system they used for years? Not a touch screen. Works great. Keeps your eyes much more on the task at hand (which is driving), which is much safer than the time it takes to look, make a selection, and find the right spot to touch on a screen. Distracted driving is real, and the proven fact is that touch screen manipulation adds to distracted driving. How much different is looking down at your phone and manipulating its touchscreen versus being distracted and going through a cars touchscreen while driving.? There is a reason using your phone to do such things is illegal. How often do you see people weaving like a drunk on the road, when they are real just being distracted by doing something other than driving in the car. Looking down at their phone, texting, or fiddling with a touchscreen. The rotary wheel selector is better for driving and being a little less distracted.
There is a x factor not talked about here. How Kia has had major theft and break in issues. Though the telluride isn't stolen at the high rate as other hyundai and kia vehicles. That reputation does hurt kia and causes increase in break ins. Thus in some cases a large increase in insurance
For me the clear winner is the CX-90. It is very rare that you load these cars up with everything you could possibly throw into them. The CX-90 tech maybe a little slower but it's certainly not a deal-breaker. Give me the better handling car and the performance. Plus it gets better gas mileage! The new king is CX-90.
Mazda for me.
I like Mazda much better
I agree... MAZDA is thinking they should make a performance SUV but damn they FUMBLED THE BAG with the SPACE....
I don't think the CX-90 is replacing the CX-9, at least for now. Mazda still selling both. Didn't the Mazda 3rd row look like it had more leg room then the Kia??
Hmm why didn't the driver use the touchscreen while driving the Mazda?? I also guess they both love using their touchscreen phones whole driving??
Wireless crapple play and Android Auto sucks. Better to have it wired and charging at the same time
I need the knob! I hate touchscreen, so yes to mazda❤🎉
Y’all know that the CX-90 can be had in two-tone tan/black interior too… Right?
Having just driven the Mazda, it drives and steers like a proper sports sedan. And no, the next step up is not just another $10k. A three row BMW SUV runs nearly $100k.
مازدا 👌🏼🇯🇵🇯🇵🇯🇵🇯🇵🇸🇦🇸🇦🇸🇦🇸🇦👉
What you girls did not talk about (possibly among many things) is warranty and maintenance. Kia offers really good deals on warranty just like their parent company but that’s because Kia breaks down faster than the Mazda (if it does break at all.) I recently test drove the cx-90 and there was a rattle in the passenger door area. Could be the baby seat in the 2nd row.. it did drive me crazy though. I think the world is definitely moving towards electrification. A hybrid is most welcome. Not sure why Kia and Hyundai do not turbocharge their vehicles.. I’d be interested in a hybrid Kia as a second choice but they do not have it (yet) and the Santa Fe is a 3 year wait in my closest dealership.
Mazda is the people’s champion; critics, well try to criticize your own image to see if it matches people’s perceptions.
Stop misinforming folks , CX90 is a class above generic Koreans , drivetrain, design and buld quality, handling and performance all are superior and it starts at 40K !
Mazda wants the CX-90 to compete with a BMW, so compare it to an X7.
Mazda starts at less than half the price of an X7, so as long as that is taken into consideration.
Why don't they compare the Mazda to the Urus. What else are we going to read Lord!!!!
I hate to say this but:
How many people at this point really care about the "tech" in the car when everyone wants apple car play or android auto anyway? Car companies should just sell you a really nice audio system and a blank screen.
To be fair..I have not driven cx90, i have seen it and sat inside. but I did drive the cx9 2023 before i bought 2023 Kia Telluride sx xline. Night and day. Mazda cx90 finally got premium interior but the kia Telly still looks, feels and drives nicer and smoother than the mazda. The KIA saftey features alone blows the mazda out of the water. It drives itself and changes lane by itself on the interstate flawless. Mazda safety systems are pre 2000. Basic... My buddy owns a a Tesla model S and he has drove every self driving car. And the kia/Hyundai products are 2nd to Tesla hands down. Thats coming from Tesla owner. The only thing mazda cx90 has is turbo and faster. Period. But nobody is racing family 3row SUVs. And rhe kia is quick and not slow at all. Kia all the way
Mazda for me bc I like sporty and there are tons of Tellurides on the road.
I’d take the telluride any day.
What about days that you wake up without bias?
@@ALMX5DP says the guy with the Mazda as his profile pic? Are you upset I stated my opinion? Sounds personal…
@@TheKasai23 lol I’d take the Telluride too for most days I needed the space and people accommodations. But other days that I want a more fun or engaging driving experience (if I had to have a CUV), I’d probably prefer the CX.
@@ALMX5DP Yea idk, I’m not buying a cuv for it’s driving dynamics. It’s a family hauler. If that’s the case I’d just get me a sports car for 65k. Mazda definitely has a nice interior though..
@@TheKasai23 sure though having something that is nice to drive I think we can both agree is at least a small consideration. Also the power and torque of the CX should make towing or driving at higher altitudes a bit more pleasant.
Omg…I love these two journalists together..they have great chemistry ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️. Keep them….get rid of the other ones.
Kia Telluride ❤❤
As a gay fan of cars really love it this video with those girls! 😂 Really fun video.
Really two different products. That's good. But after all I keep it with the Kia 🤭
Telluride for space. But probably the palisade calligraphy for features
Why are Edmunds' 0-60 times so much slower than other magazines? Car and Driver, Motor Trend etc usually have times nearly a second quicker
Hot.
They’re both interesting, but even if the price was the same I’d still choose the Ascent for its better soft road capability. Paying $20K+ less (we paid 36K invoice for our 23 Ascent) makes it the best bargain in the segment.
I’ve tried the Ascent and… don’t you find it small inside? To us, it was even tighter than the old CX9
@@Fabulousprofound168 not at all. Tape measure confirmed the Ascent is bigger on the inside than the 23 Pilot.
Horrible reliability on the Ascent.
@@ZZZZMD1991 perhaps on the 19 first year, but has steadily improved since and is now on the recommended list. It's also the only SUV in its class to consistently make Top Safety Pick+.
You have a smooth inline 6 that delivers way more power and 4 miles per gallon more economical... No brainer... Kids in the third row.
What self respecting adults are riding in 3rd rows? Cmon man, the 3rd row is for kids. Why do reviewers try and trick us into believing otherwise? If you're an adult riding in 3rd rows you need to leave your mommas house and go get a job. It's time, it's past time.
When she said "My big ole butt" 😒
Telluride for me 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Telluride drives like a truck Mazda drives like a Cadillac
Guys, I wanted very much to watch this, as I'm a fan of both vehicles, and the Mazda is high on my list for next vehicle. But the schtick and false reality-TV-like pseud-drama was too much. I stopped.
Edmunds is a big name in automotive that I trust. Since you got this new presenter, the vibe and quality fee of the channel has me turned off. I'll check back in in a few months.
Stay away from Kia's right now. Kia dealerships all over the usa are getting in trouble for hidden upcharges they can't explain to the BBB, but I'm pretty sure they'll get away with that. But the real issue is kia cars are really easy to break into. And I mean hysterically easy.
Tellurides has push buttons,so they're good
Yeah, @Me-en4dn you don’t know what you’re talking about, so you my want to stop talking.
The Telluride is so much better looking, especially for an SUV, and even more so for an SUV that isn’t at the luxury level. Mazda trying to match the BMW’s and Mercedes’ of the world is 100% laughable. Mazda is known for mediocrity.
Acting surprised that the third row is for kids? Amateur hour.
I support mazda.
The mazda in top trim with hybrid option is WAY over priced, mid 60k, and too slow for price and competition. Mazda speed 6 was last time i was a fan of mazda. If your ok with the price and low performance ( again considering what you pay for a loaded one ) then sure im sure its nice. But just being nice doesnt cut it for me.
The Telluride is built in Georgia and the CX-90 is built in Japan. Check back in 3 years and tell us which one still feels and runs like new. The complaints about the Mazda tech are overrated and most of the stock shots in this video of the Telluride tech show it running Apple Carplay onscreen which the CX-90 supports, and wirelessly to boot. I've noticed that Mazda's have a unique and loyal following like Volvo. They do things a bit different but are high quality. And btw Emmie looks like she is folded in half in the back of that Telluride lol.
Mazda has insisted for a very long time that the dial is the safer way to go instead of touchscreen. They cannot block Apple from being a touch screen so that is still working at a touch. You have to love how the reviewers hype on that in every review. They can complain a lot about it but Mazda does not seem to be inclined to change tactics. I knew they were going to go with the Telluride. Of course if you want your car stolen, get the Kia. They have no chip in their keys and thieves are now on to that Kia's and Hyundai's are being stolen at a rate nearly 5 times higher than any other car. Even with the recent software upgrade to Kia/Hyundai the stolen rate is not impacted. Good luck not having your car stolen if you have to park it outside.
Can 1, just one, YT reviewer talk about reliability, fit and finsh, and projected maintenance and longevity. These things are far more important than an infotainment interface. Quit reinforcing superficiality and start helping consumers think more practically. Edmunds, whats your role in this world? Pandering to the masses or making a positive difference? SMH
People call infortament tech these days?
Classic Kia and Hyundai advert .
If Space is your number one deal and average road dynamics, powertrain, plastics and tech using just old tech touch screen are tolerable than go for far cheaper made Kia .
Anyone who is calling himself a auto enthusiast and can not see a difference between CX90 and generic Kia should reconsider and change profession .
CX90 is in whole different league than downright cheesy and plasticky Kia , and extra few inches or cubic feet of space is far far not enough to be considered a better choice here .
So fortunately to such not objective rants Mazda buyers will get much better deals for their Superior Mazda products than heavily marketed Kia and often over priced Kia / Hyundai products.
Than come very crapy QC , sloppy build quality , downright underpowered drivetrain that despite 100lbs less torque and 50hp less gets better worse millage ... Many CX90 owners are reposting 30mpg already , Handling and related safety behind the wheel is also a different league for CX90 being far superior , tech on Mazda offers awesome and ergonomic downright luxury like control knob also easier to use than tthose found on 80K BMWs.
Than comes sound quality of stereo also far far better in Mazds .
Than interior colors and materials with build and finish , picked in this video bright grey interior is for adults and older kids , super upscale and elegant , than comes dark grey and black and beige interior that could have been picked just like in that Kia but it was not picked all to create another impression or fake point of Kia being "better".
Just like the rest of "points" being sooo set up .
This is yet another review set and presented without objectivity and looking like sponsored by Kia and Hyundai.
Sad but true . Only bright side is that in effect this rant will give Mazda buyers better selection and deals while Kia will be sold above MSRP... no wonder it makes sense for Kia and Hyundai to be heavy to sponsors of such pseudo "comparisons" .
Some smart consumers will see it and read between the lines but most lemmings will fall for this fake comparison.
55K Mazda CX90 is superior to 55K Kia shown here
Koreans are known to pay advertisers to make their products look better. Its a problem when they don’t talk about the many downsides that their companies have gone through. I’m not here to say that they shouldn’t keep going as a company, but rather I would like for them to address their quality control and also wanting them to stop lying to buyers thinking they’ll get better bang for their buck when they are getting what they payed for. That is cheaply made cars that will have expensive maintenance and many reports of Kias and Hyundais will basically ignore customer support. Just fixing those would make the company better, but it sounds like that is not on their list.
@@toshitanaka1550 Absolutely correct!
Hell no. Telluride is cheap as hell. I love the mazda tech
Yeah. That’s what all the car critics say. Get outta here with this nonsense. You’ve never once been up close to a Telluride or set a foot in one. Do you work for Mazda?
I really don't understand whats so difficult about Mazda's infotainment system? everything is laid out clearly by category ok yes you cant touch the screen that's a bummer. But as a Mazda cx5 owner myself it's really not terrible to get used to it. They are far worse infotainment systems out there way worse then Mazdas lol.
Are you ladies putting cheese whiz on your crackers while driving? Mazda is focused on driving and driving safety. Your view on tech is as soft as your whiz.
That's about all that needs to be said in response to the ladies lack of touchscreen complaints.
Cringe
Look at all these Mazda fans crying 😂
🤮
I Hate Mazda 👎🏽
kia is cheap and slow....why buy it
Wow cx90 is damn ugly. Reminds me of some genetically mutated alien. Telluride looks pretty badazz though.
This is embarrassing how any car journalist who should be able to see and distinguish the differences and here you just don't . Mazda design , fit, finish, performance, execution are whole level above generic and plasticy , old tech and underpowered engine ....
It almost seem Kia sponsored and that is trash pseudo journalism. No thabks .
Are we really comparing the Kia to the Mazda? Kia isn’t in the same league as Mazda