I'm an overpronator and the top 2 shoes I've been using in 2024 are the Saucony guide 17 and Brook Glycerin 21 GTS. I log around 40-50 miles a week and this are the only 2 shoes I rotate with, love them.
I am an ovepronator runner so I started my new Stability shoe in the Brooks Glycerin 21 GTS and its been a good time running on it. It helps my knees too, feel refreshed on my next run
I'm almost 60 and lately I've found that my overpronation tends to tear up my knees (not just my feet and ankles) if I'm hiking and running fairly intensively. It's as if my foot is trying to pull my knee apart on the medial side, which results in some MCL pain and a lot of janky patella tracking-- clicking popping grinding etc, very annoying. This happens with neutral shoes even if I put good firm arch support in them. I tried on a pair of Brooks GTS (Adrenaline I think) and I could immediately feel how that support was helping the knee. Now I feel silly for not having thought of this sooner.
I used to run with stability shoes but my PT worked with me to strengthen my muscles. Now I have been running in neutral shoes for a year now. Took a little while plus consistency on those PT exercises, but now I can run in super shoes, neutral shoes with no pain.
I thought no stability shoes could be more fun, addicting to use and super stable then a SolarGlide 6 or Structure 25 until I tried the Asics Gel-Kayano 31. Asics is the brand to go with stability shoes from lightweight to bulky stability shoes : GT 1000, GT 2000 or the Gel-Kayano.
Personally I prefer the rocker in the Guide and get along better with its stability elements. I tend to think of them as daily trainer and easy/long run partners, not as competitors, but most people nowadays don't separate easy/long run shoes from daily trainers so it makes sense they may not work in tandem for some people.
@@Pianoman1234321 I tried the guide 17 and I didn’t like how it really felt restrictive in the heel and just overall in general. I didn’t get that feeling with the Hurricane 24 and the New Balance 860v14. They just felt like neutral shoes with good inherent stability.
@iakona23 Quite true, they tend to fall more into the stable neutral category rather than stability nowadays. Both are great at what they do in that respect, though, feeling much less restrictive if that's what you're looking for.
@@Pianoman1234321 In terms of stability, the Hurricane 24 and New Balance 860v14 is what I line. I tried on the Brooks Hyperion Max 1, and that heel was totally unstable. You have to strike on the front or mid foot with that one.
860v14 is sooo good . Very plush but springy when you put the power down . Completely corrected my overpronation so i think people underestimate it's effectiveness as a stability shoe too
currently using a Brooks Glycerine GTS 21 for work as a nursing attendant. Any other alternative shoes (Wide) that you can recommend? ON, Saucony or any other brands? Thank you.
So another twist in the classification of running shoe models. Gone are the days of 3 ...neutral, support and stability. Formerly, a "stability" shoe generally being built on a wide , straight last AND medial posting. Perhaps no need for them them now? . Big, heavy , guys who would smash a "neutral" to mash in a few weeks have stopped running? Not the case! . But thie third tier is certainly being addressed far less now by brands. So much so that WE tend to refer the neutral and support shoes. The Kayano 30/31 , the Guide 17 and shoes from 361 the Kairos 2 and the all new PHOENIX all feature wider "platforms" and support "geometry"; however, comfort is key and we see some customers still opting for older models which have medial posts.
@@Charles-kc2vt sizing, 2 pairs of 7.5 but different actual length. Inner liner not flush which is interfering with my toe. Insole giving me blister but the other pair is fine.
I was looking for the answer for this question and end up asking ChatGPT. Here is the answer for us supinators: “For runners who underpronate (supinate), these stability features may not be necessary and could potentially interfere with the natural outward rolling motion of the foot. Underpronators typically benefit more from neutral running shoes that offer ample cushioning and flexibility to accommodate their specific gait pattern.” I am thinking buying Superblast 2 it has wide platform for stability and ChatGPT seems to approve this choice. Good luck to find your perfect shoe.
the best stability shoes with the most vesatility for daily training are a compromise - none provide the feel good fun of the neutral competitors - as far as racing - forget it you might as well be time transported back 10 years. I am leaning towards a high quality arch support insert and neutral - stable models
Who needs stability shoes? Im genuinely curious. Pronation is natural movement and I think for most people that say they have ”overpronation”, it isnt as big of a problem. If you need stability shoes for your legs to sustain the posture/load that comes from running, I would just go to the gym and strenghten the ligaments and muscles and buy regular running shoes.. Buying ”stability” shoes feels like bandage to a problem, where strengthening would be the real treatment and fix.
Thanks for having Matt on!
Hurricane will be a dangerous competitor when saucony figures out how to make it lighter. That shoe feels so good.
I'm an overpronator and the top 2 shoes I've been using in 2024 are the Saucony guide 17 and Brook Glycerin 21 GTS. I log around 40-50 miles a week and this are the only 2 shoes I rotate with, love them.
Do you think the guide 17 capable to run a lil faster then easy miles?
@@Tommygimbal yes or the tempus. Both are good choices.
Have u tried hurricane 24 in comparison to guide 17?
I am an ovepronator runner so I started my new Stability shoe in the Brooks Glycerin 21 GTS and its been a good time running on it. It helps my knees too, feel refreshed on my next run
I'm almost 60 and lately I've found that my overpronation tends to tear up my knees (not just my feet and ankles) if I'm hiking and running fairly intensively. It's as if my foot is trying to pull my knee apart on the medial side, which results in some MCL pain and a lot of janky patella tracking-- clicking popping grinding etc, very annoying. This happens with neutral shoes even if I put good firm arch support in them. I tried on a pair of Brooks GTS (Adrenaline I think) and I could immediately feel how that support was helping the knee. Now I feel silly for not having thought of this sooner.
Great collab! Matt’s the goat
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Glad to see Connor showing some love to those of us whom he once described as “my wobbly ankle people.”
I used to run with stability shoes but my PT worked with me to strengthen my muscles. Now I have been running in neutral shoes for a year now. Took a little while plus consistency on those PT exercises, but now I can run in super shoes, neutral shoes with no pain.
what did u do?
I thought no stability shoes could be more fun, addicting to use and super stable then a SolarGlide 6 or Structure 25 until I tried the Asics Gel-Kayano 31.
Asics is the brand to go with stability shoes from lightweight to bulky stability shoes : GT 1000, GT 2000 or the Gel-Kayano.
Love the kayano. I hope they keep the rocker forever!
very nice content. we need stability contents more haha ty!
Is it my imagination, but the hurricane looks like the Bondi 8 !
I think that the Guide 17 is obsolete now that the Hurricane 24 is out. Hurricane is a great shoe!
Personally I prefer the rocker in the Guide and get along better with its stability elements. I tend to think of them as daily trainer and easy/long run partners, not as competitors, but most people nowadays don't separate easy/long run shoes from daily trainers so it makes sense they may not work in tandem for some people.
@@Pianoman1234321 I tried the guide 17 and I didn’t like how it really felt restrictive in the heel and just overall in general. I didn’t get that feeling with the Hurricane 24 and the New Balance 860v14. They just felt like neutral shoes with good inherent stability.
@iakona23 Quite true, they tend to fall more into the stable neutral category rather than stability nowadays. Both are great at what they do in that respect, though, feeling much less restrictive if that's what you're looking for.
@@Pianoman1234321 In terms of stability, the Hurricane 24 and New Balance 860v14 is what I line. I tried on the Brooks Hyperion Max 1, and that heel was totally unstable. You have to strike on the front or mid foot with that one.
@@iakona23 I loved the NB 860 line until the 860v14; it's too soft and there seems to be no stability component.
Another suggestion is NB 860 v14 🎉
Got it 50% off 😂
The stability is not too powerful and enough for easy up to uptempo stuff
860v14 is sooo good . Very plush but springy when you put the power down . Completely corrected my overpronation so i think people underestimate it's effectiveness as a stability shoe too
I'd add Mizuno's Wave Aspire to this list
why is there such a lack of selection for wider foot runners? hear so many good things about shoes that im not able to try
Can one develop from overpronation to a neutral running stance?
currently using a Brooks Glycerine GTS 21 for work as a nursing attendant. Any other alternative shoes (Wide) that you can recommend? ON, Saucony or any other brands? Thank you.
So another twist in the classification of running shoe models. Gone are the days of 3 ...neutral, support and stability. Formerly, a "stability" shoe generally being built on a wide , straight last AND medial posting. Perhaps no need for them them now? . Big, heavy , guys who would smash a "neutral" to mash in a few weeks have stopped running? Not the case! . But thie third tier is certainly being addressed far less now by brands. So much so that WE tend to refer the neutral and support shoes. The Kayano 30/31 , the Guide 17 and shoes from 361 the Kairos 2 and the all new PHOENIX all feature wider "platforms" and support "geometry"; however, comfort is key and we see some customers still opting for older models which have medial posts.
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Do flat feets need stability shoes?
Tempus 2 will be fantastic
Tempus is still the king
If hurricane has no quality issues I would love them. After having 2 pairs and still having issues, I’m switching back to brooks
What issues did you have with them? I'm on the fence about picking up the Hurricanes.
@@Charles-kc2vt sizing, 2 pairs of 7.5 but different actual length. Inner liner not flush which is interfering with my toe. Insole giving me blister but the other pair is fine.
The tongues on my pair are wildly different lengths! Not so much a problem but looks ridiculous - doesn’t say much for QC though
@@mingo_flamingo I had that issue with my tampus!
@@mingo_flamingo I have had this issue and another pair of Tempus too
Tempus 2 vs hurricane please!!!!
Matt please do a comparison between Hurricane 24 and Puma Magmax even though one is a stability shoe.
Would you consider the hyperion for races (half marathon and marathon mostly) or works best for shorter distances?
I wonder how the Puma Foreverrun Nitro fares compared to the ones featured.
I tend to under pronate , supinate. I was wondering which shoe best addresses this problem
I was looking for the answer for this question and end up asking ChatGPT. Here is the answer for us supinators: “For runners who underpronate (supinate), these stability features may not be necessary and could potentially interfere with the natural outward rolling motion of the foot. Underpronators typically benefit more from neutral running shoes that offer ample cushioning and flexibility to accommodate their specific gait pattern.” I am thinking buying Superblast 2 it has wide platform for stability and ChatGPT seems to approve this choice. Good luck to find your perfect shoe.
the best stability shoes with the most vesatility for daily training are a compromise - none provide the feel good fun of the neutral competitors - as far as racing - forget it you might as well be time transported back 10 years. I am leaning towards a high quality arch support insert and neutral - stable models
You’re going to have to redo this video the second the Tempus 2 comes out.
Shouldn't the Brooks be the Adrenaline rather than the Hyperian?
ARE THESE FOR STRONG OVERPRONATOR? Please someone reply :(
Both Kayano and Hurricane are better suited for you.
Matt "heel bevel" Klein
@michaelcaricoo Immediately after reading this comment I went back to my home page, and the first thing I saw was a DOR short about heel bevels 😅
@@Pianoman1234321😅
Tshirt coming soon 😂
Who needs stability shoes? Im genuinely curious. Pronation is natural movement and I think for most people that say they have ”overpronation”, it isnt as big of a problem. If you need stability shoes for your legs to sustain the posture/load that comes from running, I would just go to the gym and strenghten the ligaments and muscles and buy regular running shoes.. Buying ”stability” shoes feels like bandage to a problem, where strengthening would be the real treatment and fix.
well how do u strenghten?
some people are genetically flat footed
@@nicksantos7586Yes, this^^
Where's the walking shoes?
Check out walking warehouse
maybe in the walkingwarehouse store hehe
The guy with the speech impediment spends the entire time mouth breathing.