@@TheEmeraldMenOfficial you’re acting like that’s a dumb question. Is it thorium? Césium? Uranium? There’s more than one kind of nuclear reactor, mate.
@@maddiedoesntkno I am well aware of the various types of nuclear reactor, but marine reactors use uranium ubiquitously, if memory serves. Also, no accent in cesium. I’m guessing you’re French, so I can provide a French version if need be.
didn't understand this song at first, but i started to as it went on - it's saying being a sailor doesn't mean the same thing as it used to because sailors do so much less, and the chorus isn't telling you *not* to do those things, it's telling you *that* you don't do them, and the sailing ship - not that you'll be sunk and never get the chance again, but that they're falling out of use and not around. i know this is an unnecessary and redundant comment, but i just wanted to put my thoughts out there. surprisingly deep for a "drinking" or "shanty" type song, but i like that
Got to disagree with your comment that Royal Navy sailors do less work. They work harder than ever as there so few in a Ship's Company. Each will have several other jobs in addition to their specialised trade.
I agree that it's about how technology has advanced so that sailors don't do the same things as they did in the past. And since the ships are no longer "sailing ships", I think he's saying that a sailor ain't a sailor with the second word meaning literally one who sails. But I don't think he's saying they do less work or aren't as tough as back in those days. He brings it back around at the very end to say that sailors are still sailors even if the specific jobs they do have changed.
@@iainstewart9844 @UnDrewsual yeah, i get that! i really don't know much about sailing or the navy; i was just putting down what i thought the song was saying, not my personal opinions
Hi all, I accept all your points. My aim was to ensure that people understand than although living conditions have improved dramatically the workload in modern warship has increased too. My seatime was in the 70's and comments then from older people were that we had an easy life. Didn't want that attitude to perpetuate.
I think it's just talking about what it means to be a sailor. Like that "back when a coke was a coke" song. Like back in the day you have people slinging ropes and dropping sails. Instead of pushing buttons and pulling levers. The whole crew being topside and having commands echo from the captain to person to person instead of people with headphones. Where morale was kept up by singing shantys and telling old stories to f****** suggestion boxes lol
as the song progressed the "if you a sailing ship it might be your last" changed meaning from being sunk by it to wow proberly wont see one of those again
I was a cadet on an LNG carrier. This song is completely true. Standing Engine Watch wasn't usually even necessary, but when it was, it was just sitting in the Engine Control Room staring at a computer screen. The romance is gone.
Problem is the new jobs are so automated they basically run themselves, you're only needed if there's a problem. The plant runs you. On the old ones, the opposite is true, especially the reciprocating steam plants. You're running the whole show, and it'd literally fly apart without the engineering crew. Always something to do, oiling round to top up lubricators and oil cups, checking bearings to make sure they're running cool, minding the throttle and reversing quadrant as you answer bells from the bridge, and so much more. Just a different way of operating. Lot of hard work to be sure.
@@jamieward9402 exactly. Sure they have less work to do to sail as efficiently, meaning they can go further and sell more. If we offered a modern day ship to an any old sailer who had to use rigs and masts, they would take it any day and declare themselves Pirate King with their superior vessle that can catch anyone who tries to run yarhar! If you want to WORK on a boat, then work on a fisherman's boat or another boat job that involves rough waters. Then you'll be wishing to see land again and begging Neptune and Posideon to have mercy while another freezing cold wave soaks you
Standing deck watch on a troop ship in the North Atlantic in the winter when it's blowing half a gale, with ice on the horizon, and .. I loved it, and they had to come and drag me inside because they said it was too dangerous ... I surely would have joined the navy but for them damned silly sailor suits.
About the "norestump" controversy: I've found that Norris of London, a period toolmaker, also may have constructed a patent signal lamp. So it might be a corruption of "Norris lamp" that would have been a regionalism. The standard signal lamp of course is an Aldis or Perkins lamp.
There's no controversy really. The line in the song says "well they gave us an aldis lamp so we could do it right". There are other mistakes in the reproduced lyrics too which I have cleared up at the top of the comments. :)
As per a lot of the lyrics here - the poster has copied them wrongly. It is an Aldiss signal lamp just as killy cover mess is the killick of our mess or the corporal of our messdeck is what is meant. there are otther errors in this video. Look for derina harvey band verstion much better and accurate
Unfortunaly, and in many ways fortunately, the sailor life is complete different. The work is still the same,but how it is performed is also way different. Not allowed to drink alcohol when working on a ship,no time to get ashore when at port. Still work is hard,long,in bad weather. Of course different from what kind of ship you sail on, I imagine. The biggest different I would say is earlier being a sailor was an adventure, now it is just an ordinary 8-5 job. Without going home in the evening
If no copyright infringement is intended, then you should give credit to Tom Lewis, the man who wrote this song in the 1980's . Put his name there with his lyrics!
Found This randomly and now i wanted to buy the CD and its not available anywhere only Discogs from Canada and i live on the other side of the world great D=
Verse two "Well the Killy cover mess" actually should say "well the killick of our mess" Verse four "well they gave us a norestump" should actually say "well they gave us an aldis lamp" Verse four "a bump n glass a dozen aint a toss anymore" should actually say "A bunting-tosser doesn't toss the bunting anymore". verse five ""for another run ashore" actually says "and find a pub ashore" You're welcome :)
a sailor, the food and water was bad and half rotted in addition to not having a sanitary place to use the bathroom on a cramped ship and most sailors couldn't swim.
i love sailing on a Ship like the old times, but that song is an Punch in the face.then why love i this song? why love i a song that singing about the end of sailing? T-T i dont know
:) if one wants to reach the destination in no tim without discomfort TAKE A FLİGHT... ıf ask for luxury vacation .. take your pick of Hilton style hotel room. and stay there... :) we dont.. so we feel us as sailors… :) 24 hour pickets ..to keep the onboard sleepers in full safety.. ( mostly saturated with Jameson Ischkaba and rom...) beer is consumed on shore.. Preferably ırish guiness bear.. Coffe is allowed 24 hour self service just as long as it is Irish Coffee.. :) to those who dont keep the sailboat and cabins clean and tidy we simply use them as fish bait…..:)
yeah, these lyrics are adulterated dogs' vomit. killick ( leading seaman) of our mess comes out as killy cover mess... no excuse considering Lewis' great diction
I don't mean to offend but we all have an opinion, and if you don't like this band then don't go on one of their video's and troll them, people will retaliate and then un-needed fights will be fought...
I can tell that the sailor will be replaced by a whaler, the sailing ship could be "vicious whale", but i figured White Whale would be better, and the "don't haul on the rope, climb up the mast" kind of needs some work, as well as the part when they mentioned technology, civies could be replaced with "get your harpoons" then "we'll get our harpoons and find a pub ashore".
this sea shanty speaks of how sailors have it easy.. and it's sickening. they "don't haul on the ropes or climb on the mast".. rest well dad.. I'm sure Davey Jones locker ain't that fucken bad! aye! another shot of gin!
It was never implied it was easy to be a sailor. Quite the opposite actually. They describe being a sailor now a days like it's usless grunt work. Which implies it wasn't like that long ago.
JayB Vlogs the song was written by a man who served in the Royal Navy. In this particular instance it is being sung by a Newfoundland band, but it isn't a song specific to Newfoundland.
NO I think you are wrong. Sailors still do all the old things that built their reputations. The hard drinking, big spending. walking-talking sex machines, lover in every port. The only difference now is the gender of the sailors.
Gotta agree. Sounds like they were just trying to get it over with. "Right boys, we've sung all the words, we're through." The drums are nice but Tom sings it with feeling.
I was a submarine reactor operator long ago. Boiled water to make the boat go, was glad it no longer involved shoveling coal.
True for sure Robert.
What kind of reactor?
@@cultofshaggy7912 ...A nuclear reactor.
@@TheEmeraldMenOfficial you’re acting like that’s a dumb question. Is it thorium? Césium? Uranium? There’s more than one kind of nuclear reactor, mate.
@@maddiedoesntkno I am well aware of the various types of nuclear reactor, but marine reactors use uranium ubiquitously, if memory serves. Also, no accent in cesium. I’m guessing you’re French, so I can provide a French version if need be.
didn't understand this song at first, but i started to as it went on - it's saying being a sailor doesn't mean the same thing as it used to because sailors do so much less, and the chorus isn't telling you *not* to do those things, it's telling you *that* you don't do them, and the sailing ship - not that you'll be sunk and never get the chance again, but that they're falling out of use and not around. i know this is an unnecessary and redundant comment, but i just wanted to put my thoughts out there. surprisingly deep for a "drinking" or "shanty" type song, but i like that
Got to disagree with your comment that Royal Navy sailors do less work. They work harder than ever as there so few in a Ship's Company. Each will have several other jobs in addition to their specialised trade.
I agree that it's about how technology has advanced so that sailors don't do the same things as they did in the past. And since the ships are no longer "sailing ships", I think he's saying that a sailor ain't a sailor with the second word meaning literally one who sails. But I don't think he's saying they do less work or aren't as tough as back in those days. He brings it back around at the very end to say that sailors are still sailors even if the specific jobs they do have changed.
@@iainstewart9844 @UnDrewsual
yeah, i get that! i really don't know much about sailing or the navy; i was just putting down what i thought the song was saying, not my personal opinions
Hi all, I accept all your points. My aim was to ensure that people understand than although living conditions have improved dramatically the workload in modern warship has increased too. My seatime was in the 70's and comments then from older people were that we had an easy life. Didn't want that attitude to perpetuate.
I think it's just talking about what it means to be a sailor. Like that "back when a coke was a coke" song. Like back in the day you have people slinging ropes and dropping sails. Instead of pushing buttons and pulling levers. The whole crew being topside and having commands echo from the captain to person to person instead of people with headphones. Where morale was kept up by singing shantys and telling old stories to f****** suggestion boxes lol
That really sums up my service in the Navy, it's nothing of the romance TV and History makes it out to be.
Fearless Felix Lots of men though
you were in the navy? I salute you!
That's how it usually is lol but I salute you fellow brother/sister
Thanks for your services, Felix, we salute you
as the song progressed the "if you a sailing ship it might be your last" changed meaning from being sunk by it to wow proberly wont see one of those again
I was a cadet on an LNG carrier. This song is completely true. Standing Engine Watch wasn't usually even necessary, but when it was, it was just sitting in the Engine Control Room staring at a computer screen. The romance is gone.
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What to say about it even healthy
I mean it's safer but not healthier odd nope?
Problem is the new jobs are so automated they basically run themselves, you're only needed if there's a problem. The plant runs you.
On the old ones, the opposite is true, especially the reciprocating steam plants. You're running the whole show, and it'd literally fly apart without the engineering crew. Always something to do, oiling round to top up lubricators and oil cups, checking bearings to make sure they're running cool, minding the throttle and reversing quadrant as you answer bells from the bridge, and so much more.
Just a different way of operating. Lot of hard work to be sure.
The funny thing is, this is so true. Especially the stoker part, as one I can say we're essentially maintainers now.
I Was Royal Navy in the seventies and then 30 years fire service. This song rings true for both!!
This is the best version, I get chills every time I hear it.
The song rings true worldwide. These shanty’s are from the era when men where made of iron and ships of wood.
randy regalado now ships are made of steel and people are made of glass... say one thing in a weird way and everyone gets offended
@@ErebusAlekos so you're just gonna pretend pirates didn't kill people for looking at them wrong. Sounds pretty fragile to me
I know that. Don’t get me wrong
Yeah, especially the part at 1:17 where the song talks about steam and diesel engines...
No, this entire song is about how the ships aren't wooden or sailing ships anymore, they're saying sailers (like him) don't have to do as much anymore
the sad truth is that this song has it exactly right. a sailor ain't a sailor anymore
I don't get how that's a bad thing, I mean the entire song is complaining about how technology is improving and their lives are getting easier
@@jamieward9402 exactly. Sure they have less work to do to sail as efficiently, meaning they can go further and sell more. If we offered a modern day ship to an any old sailer who had to use rigs and masts, they would take it any day and declare themselves Pirate King with their superior vessle that can catch anyone who tries to run yarhar!
If you want to WORK on a boat, then work on a fisherman's boat or another boat job that involves rough waters. Then you'll be wishing to see land again and begging Neptune and Posideon to have mercy while another freezing cold wave soaks you
Well, considering how Churchhill described the Royal Navy as "rum, sodomy and the lash", its probably a good thing.
Jesus. Don't get me started. A pickup truck isn't even a pickup truck anymore. (Even an OLD one.)
I was Deck Division 2013-2017. I'm glad shit got better. Shit sucked enough as is.
Much of this fits the Navy of today. I understand every bit of this tune..I was a "bunting tosser/signalman" now long gone., SMC, USN, ret.
Standing deck watch on a troop ship in the North Atlantic in the winter when it's blowing half a gale, with ice on the horizon, and .. I loved it, and they had to come and drag me inside because they said it was too dangerous ... I surely would have joined the navy but for them damned silly sailor suits.
That silly sailor suite got me a lot of......... er........ the women seemed to like them !
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About the "norestump" controversy: I've found that Norris of London, a period toolmaker, also may have constructed a patent signal lamp. So it might be a corruption of "Norris lamp" that would have been a regionalism. The standard signal lamp of course is an Aldis or Perkins lamp.
There's no controversy really. The line in the song says "well they gave us an aldis lamp so we could do it right". There are other mistakes in the reproduced lyrics too which I have cleared up at the top of the comments. :)
As per a lot of the lyrics here - the poster has copied them wrongly. It is an Aldiss signal lamp just as killy cover mess is the killick of our mess or the corporal of our messdeck is what is meant. there are otther errors in this video. Look for derina harvey band verstion much better and accurate
Unfortunaly, and in many ways fortunately, the sailor life is complete different. The work is still the same,but how it is performed is also way different. Not allowed to drink alcohol when working on a ship,no time to get ashore when at port. Still work is hard,long,in bad weather. Of course different from what kind of ship you sail on, I imagine.
The biggest different I would say is earlier being a sailor was an adventure, now it is just an ordinary 8-5 job. Without going home in the evening
if you've been in the mob this song is so true. it's all about the run ashore everything else is shite.
Bravo Zulu mate
Listen to the song. It was always about the run ashore.
@@MDwithanAK I know I'm agreeing
I used to sing this with my dad when I was little. Good memories
Great tunes, I’ve got nothing much to say aside from that.
Boy you have no idea how funny this is to a sailor
A message from the 2020’s. Shanties came back again.
I love singing along with this.
who wouldn't?
We now have steam and diesel, but what's a mainyard for?
I am proud to say I was a Ganges lad at 15 & 2 months when I joined in 07.01 63!
1:51 Should Aldis lamp, not norsetump, which is used to signal morse code
The Navy; it's not an adventure, it's just a job. Didn't work very well till they put it the other way round.
This song inspired me to start my career as a commercial fisherman up in Alaska when I was 18.
how'd it go?
my dad's a sailor currently and caption to boot. he always says the best part of the sailing is the shore leave.
He is right.
Another great song
such harmony
If no copyright infringement is intended, then you should give credit to Tom Lewis, the man who wrote this song in the 1980's . Put his name there with his lyrics!
I was sailing for 2 weeks on the Bark Europa and we were singing this song all the time! (My voice is now really dead)
Its an aldis lamp not a "norestump" and its used for sending morse code to friendly ships. I am a former Royal Naval comms rating.
i mean you can send it to enemy ships its not like they need a receiver
Outstanding! BZ!
Found This randomly and now i wanted to buy the CD and its not available anywhere only Discogs from Canada and i live on the other side of the world great D=
This shanty can be summed up with the cliche: The more things change, the more they stay the same.
War, war never changes
Verse two "Well the Killy cover mess" actually should say "well the killick of our mess" Verse four "well they gave us a norestump" should actually say "well they gave us an aldis lamp" Verse four "a bump n glass a dozen aint a toss anymore" should actually say "A bunting-tosser doesn't toss the bunting anymore". verse five ""for another run ashore" actually says "and find a pub ashore" You're welcome :)
Some shocking good ‘ 🍺🍺
Song is sweet. I just dont like how the guy says the first word of each sentence before the rest sing the words.
That’s a technique called “canon”. It’s actually somewhat common in music, just very apparent here.
I was a stoker in the Canadian Navy in the 80's. No coal to stoke, just oil to burn. And no Tots either, Good times tho
Good song
Why does spotify have extra lyrics that it just skips over?
What I wouldn’t give to be a real sailor from the old days
Try to avoid being a pirate though, check out Sam o’nellas video on them you won’t be disappointed
You don't wanna be a pirate. The movies make em look like teddy bears. In real life their was disease and a ton of murder and rape.
@@Darin_Tomlinson ik I’d like to be a merchant or smthing
Folks !!!! Stop picking the song apart, and just enjoy this awesome song.
Don't look for meaning in a song! Just treat it as noise and nothing else!
Which life was worse in the war of 1812 a soldier civilian or a sailor?
a sailor, the food and water was bad and half rotted in addition to not having a sanitary place to use the bathroom on a cramped ship and most sailors couldn't swim.
Love it
Sounds about right. Not Navy but Marine corps. The civilian world tends to look at the military with rose tinted glasses
"A L'aventure Compagnon - Donjon de Naheulbeuk" sound excactly like this song
Basically everything about sailors has changed since the ‘old days’ but we still bloody love getting on it!! 🍻
Should've played this when TS royalist won that race and went through London Bridge
Wow i was not expecting this....... EPIC SONG LOL
I like....
a sailor ain't a sailor anymore... it mAkes me sick... another round of gin.
What's "norestump"? It's an Aldis Lamp for signalling. Morse Code
Do you know who wrote it, and when?
The song from newfoundland
A good song
This so true
great newfie song .
British, actually. A former Royal Navy officer wrote it.
i love sailing on a Ship like the old times, but that song is an Punch in the face.then why love i this song? why love i a song that singing about the end of sailing? T-T i dont know
Good sond but look up "Fishermens Friends" for a fantastic version of it...!!!
I'd like to hear this sung by a choir of Sean Connery impressionists.
How dare you make me imagine that travesty/treasure
Ow she's cuttin me cocky?
"Norestump" should be "Aldis Lamp"
Source: www.jsward.com/shanty/last_shanty.html
This really makes me want to 1700s sailor
:) if one wants to reach the destination in no tim without discomfort TAKE A FLİGHT... ıf ask for luxury vacation .. take your pick of Hilton style hotel room. and stay there... :) we dont.. so we feel us as sailors… :) 24 hour pickets ..to keep the onboard sleepers in full safety.. ( mostly saturated with Jameson Ischkaba and rom...) beer is consumed on shore.. Preferably ırish guiness bear.. Coffe is allowed 24 hour self service just as long as it is Irish Coffee.. :) to those who dont keep the sailboat and cabins clean and tidy we simply use them as fish bait…..:)
Its 2022
great tune !!
aldis lamp not a norestump
yeah, these lyrics are adulterated dogs' vomit. killick ( leading seaman) of our mess comes out as killy cover mess... no excuse considering Lewis' great diction
Check out fine lads version. Way better
Give credit to the author: Tom Lewis.
Obviously sung by someone who has never been to sea. I'm retired US Navy Sailor. =Stefan=
chengloki the writer of the song served in the Royal Navy.
Thank you for your service.
What makes you say that? A sailing ship is very different from a steam ship from a nuclear ship. The titles stay but the jobs are very different.
They gave us an Aldis lamp so we could do it right
Written by Tom Lewis.
I don't mean to offend but we all have an opinion, and if you don't like this band then don't go on one of their video's and troll them, people will retaliate and then un-needed fights will be fought...
Can someone give me a whaler's version?
I can tell that the sailor will be replaced by a whaler, the sailing ship could be "vicious whale", but i figured White Whale would be better, and the "don't haul on the rope, climb up the mast" kind of needs some work, as well as the part when they mentioned technology, civies could be replaced with "get your harpoons" then "we'll get our harpoons and find a pub ashore".
What would this song writer think about an ECDIS 😂😂
Fuck yeah Cornwall!
Razor06 Cornwall?
Everyone in the comments is bitter about new technology while I'm here just for the good music
this sea shanty speaks of how sailors have it easy.. and it's sickening. they "don't haul on the ropes or climb on the mast".. rest well dad.. I'm sure Davey Jones locker ain't that fucken bad! aye! another shot of gin!
It was never implied it was easy to be a sailor. Quite the opposite actually. They describe being a sailor now a days like it's usless grunt work. Which implies it wasn't like that long ago.
Said the submariner.
Bob Dillon
Joe Raspanti
Ken Tilghman
Richard Tomlin
Duff Goodsell
Phil Bowling
Mike Shelby
Walter Roberts
Bos’n Harold Black
Captain Paul D. Butcher
Newfoundlanders are the best sailors in the world lol
Stop hating I love this song if u hate on this your no true Newfie
Jay Bellows nice song I also like this song very much
JayB Vlogs the song was written by a man who served in the Royal Navy. In this particular instance it is being sung by a Newfoundland band, but it isn't a song specific to Newfoundland.
NO I think you are wrong. Sailors still do all the old things that built their reputations. The hard drinking, big spending. walking-talking sex machines, lover in every port. The only difference now is the gender of the sailors.
Well not on the boats yet but shortly it looks like.
This is the saddest song I'v heard
Listen to the song & you will see it IS "norestrup", not "aldis lamp". Don`t just Google it. ;)
everything hes saying in the video is completley outdated, you really are not a sailor anymore since you dont do any of those things.
It's a pirates life for me like if u agree
Well then obviously you have no backbone. xD
Love the song. Hate this version of it.
why
Rochelle Maguinness
Tempo and sound.
Gotta agree. Sounds like they were just trying to get it over with. "Right boys, we've sung all the words, we're through." The drums are nice but Tom sings it with feeling.
lmao so do u still agree
Hmm that's weird, why does it smell like fragile masculinity in here?
Sir this is a song about ships and sailing