Yea! Most of the time i dislike dramatic music especially when viewing true crime. It can be way too distracting. Also the absence of dramatic music will make this video timeless in a way
Yeah, I saw this case on another channel and it was hard to stay interested because of the extra animations, music, and the narrator just didn't have the fire that the EWU guy does
He is psychotic and lives in constant delusions…he talks about it very nonchalantly and all logic and reasoning is gone. Dude is in his own world and has been for some time.
I unfortunately knew all of the people involved... They were all regulars at the nightclub where I worked. It still makes me sick to think about how many times I greeted that monster with a friendly hello. My love to Kevin's family. He was a sweet and kind soul. Rest peaceful, my friend. Thank you, EWU, for covering his story.
Crazy to think this shit happens in our mitten of paradise.. My mother in law lives a block away from the Justice Stilwel murder house and frequent the area where most of him was found. Fucking scary out here. Wild West 2.0
@@rebeccagutierrez8170 according to another commenter who contacted him on Grindr as a minor, he rejected them immediately upon finding out. the commenter even seemed offended which is the real kicker lol. judging from how stupid this kid was, it could've been easy for him if he wanted to. but he isn't a pedophile, which i guess is one silver lining.
@@robertritt9108well he did literally have bad mental health problems so he was insane in a way lol I'm obviously not excluding what he did and I know most people with mental health problems aren't a danger to others though to be clear! All I'm saying is he definitely did have mental health issues so insane is kinda right. One of the EWU channels did a long vid on all this already so I'm debating whether it's worth watching this
i have an issue with the cops in the November incident. The cop's tone was more victim blaming and disgust. Reminds me of the naked boy that the cops came upon and Dahmer came up to say it was a lovers dispute. The kid was so drugged up, but all the cops could do was snicker and just wanted away from that situation, they handed the kid back to Dahmer who later killed the kid.
Know the issue was the kid didn't want to press charges. Therefore they could not start investigation unless he wanted to. So him calling the cops it was completely pointless because there's nothing they can do if he doesn't want to press charges.
I interactd with the killer when i worked at home depot service desk. He was an asshole. I remember one of my managers saying he gave him his personal cell number if he had any complaints and began sending him inappropriate photos. And yes he wore his kilt everytime. Kinda hard to forget that.
I felt the same. They treated him like a sexual deviant who was asking for it (much like they do prostitutes and rape victims), if they had treated him as a potential victim of a serious crime, they would have probably been able to get a search warrant for his address sooner and put this situation to bed before someone died.
I actually thought they were kinda chill. They could tell he was fibbing a bit and being kinda sheepish... so they tried to talk about it like it wasn't a big deal - and it worked. By speaking of it casually he was more inclined to admit it. Did I miss something? I'm open to being wrong I just didn't hear them mocking or snickering or being sarcastic... what'd I miss?
It’s really gut wrenching how many horrible crimes would never had happened if people had simply pressed charges. It’s baffling how these monsters repeatedly get away with serious crimes and are able to escalate as they go.
This nutball would have been mad if someone sneezed in his direction..I'm pretty sure the guy grabbed the first piece of clothing available and escaped when he had the chance
If someone stole my kilt it would go bad. Thieves and Scots are natural enemies like Englishmen and Scots.Or Welshmen and Scots. Or Japanese and Scots. Or Scots and other Scots. Damn Scots They Ruined Scotland
I think it’s wild that some guy running half naked away and wanting to press charges, and all the police do to investigate is talk to the guy So if I get kidnapped in managed to escape, and I tell the cops exactly where to find my kidnapper. They just going to talk to him and say that he did nothing wrong and believe him immediately. Like they were grilling, the younger guy running away in fear like he’s the problem And they talk to the older guy like it’s an inconvenience that they’re even needing to investigate
I live in this area and went to school for a short time with Kevin! When this story broke out, everyone was completely floored something like that happened to someone in the community. You just never know what’s going through someone mind. Thank you for sharing this story EWU! 🙏🏾💜
Should have given him warm clothes, reassurance and water at the station before even mentioning filing an official report. The guy just ran for his life.
He was afraid to file a report because he didn’t want his wife to find out that he was meeting men for sex. He refused to help the cops by pressing charges so they could arrest Latunski. They got angry with him. It’s just like when they respond to a DV call but the woman won’t press charges and they know the man is just gonna hit her again.
There's always going to be the 'man on man' assault that heterosexual men, no matter what, refuse to see a victim and perpetrator. It's outside their purview. 😞
I have reported. It was horrific. If I was confronted and treated like those cops did to the victim I wouldn't have pressed charges either. Would not feel safe doing so.
True, but it's hard to do so when a cop is doing all they can to persuade you to not do so. When it comes to a minority in a community that isn't too accepting, it's easier to be manipulated by authorities who'd rather not deal with you and your "queer" problems. Finding a supportive cop in red areas is like finding a diamond in the rough.
"Sir, what is your name?" Mark: "Well, we gotta first wind the clocks back to 1972..." Dude gives a Tolkien Novel's worth of info to every simple question he's asked
"What's your first name?" Mark answers, "Ummmmm." Then goes into this crazy monologue about a black-eyed cripple when they ask him his last name. But who has to hesitate before they say their first name? That was a huge red flag, along with everything else he said and how he behaved.
Family & Friends: He was unpredictable and got aggressive, had severe mental problems and sometimes spoke gibberish. Also them: This isnt his personality... Us: Are you slow or just helping him commit crimes?
This man is gruesome in the DAYLIGHT... I couldn't imagine my last hours on Earth being chained upside down in a dark basement, listening to this wicked man's voice. R.I.P. Kevin 😢
Dang those first cops totally shut down that victim that had to escape and was chased down the street. You could tell he did not want to talk after that cop came at him with so much cynicism and laziness. Similar to Jeffrey Dahmer the cops do not take gay men or women serious.
Depends on the area. If you live in a blue area, there's a good chance the lgbtqia community will be taken seriously. In a red area/state, not a chance in hell, unfortunately.
The wildest part of this case to me is that the first guy who ran scared from Mark was the one who chatted with him on the cannibal site arranging to be eaten n asking for a kill room etc. Then after he went there almost got killed n ran he refused to give the police any important details and CONTINUED chatting with Mark after the incident AND was privy to the kill room improvements after him, the luring, murder and eating of poor Kevin. He got pictures of everything from Mark and even had an arrangement to see Mark AGAIN when all this went down. One might say this dude thought Mark was role playing but not after his own experience AND considering the message n photos he got afterwards. Shouldn't that guy be an accessory or be charged with obstruction at that point??
I mean, the way the cops talked to him was pretty shameful and gaslighting, plus he didn't want people to know he was into that kind of stuff or he didn't want everyone to know he was gay
I think he was more embarrassed than anything and the cops definitely gave off vibes of "well you put yourself in this situation, so don't waste our time". Hardly any support from law enforcement encouraging him to use his rights.
He's nuts. He’s a paranoid. He’s also a relentless liar, a calculating manipulator and deceiver, he’s a physical sadist and psychological torturer, he’s very aware that he had no right to do what he did, he has a humungous sense of entitlement - and he has the psychopath’s delight in telling the literal truth about himself in such a way that people don’t believe it. Like when he told people he had “killed Kevin Bacon”.
@@DamePigleti hope she just told them that he died.. which he is basically a dead man walking anyway.. if she told them that, its not really a lie but more so true..
@@prettypearls26 I didn't feel disturbed at all I'd be pretty weirded out too if a guy was in the backseat ranting like a psychopath and I had to deal with that driving him to the police station.
As a gay man with interest in BDSM who has used apps (namely Grindr) to arrange potential hookups (I say potential because I've only ever had one) this genuinely made me delete the app. Though I am careful, get to know people first, keep an eye out for red flags, always meet in public first and always tell someone where I'm going, this made my stomach turn. I'm a small guy, 5'6, 150lbs, I would not stand a chance if an older and stronger man decided he wanted to hurt me. Nope. This genuinely put me off so hard.
He’s nuts, but he is also well oriented enough to lie and lie and lie. It is very possible to be nuts and also evil. He is perfectly aware of right and wrong, he is calculating and audacious. He makes himself out to be such a compassionate saint. Mostly what he is, is entitled and sanctimonious. It is a huge tell how he pretends to be baffled about why the previous guy abandoned his own possessions and ran mostly naked down the road. And then he pretends to think that the escaped victim just wanted to steal his most expensive piece of leather. He hints at what is a very typical psychopathic trait. Which is telling the truth about themselves in such a way that people don’t believe it or think it’s a joke. “I killed Kevin Bacon, Kevin Bacon is my hero.” Yes, he may well be paranoid, but he is an evil, knowing, sly, calculating sadistic, mendacious bastard.
yeah, they need to be inpatient or in supervised supportive housing. But we spend so much money on jails and war that we can't take care of the safety of people and trying to treat seriously mentally ill people. somehow its easier to jail people than to house/treat them and then they go out and hurt others in society, winding up in jail with great collateral damage. SO backwards.
Had a family member who was a schizophrenic. He reminds me of this dude, but he never posed a danger to anyone but himself. This is just a murderer who happens to have another mental disorder besides being a murderer
It’s crazy how you can sleep with someone and then they try to kill you like you were nothing. Hookups should at least mean something to people they shared their body with you it has to have some meaning people are so messed up
Been with my bf for a year and met him online. Best relationship I've ever had. I have friends that got married and met on tinder too. This is a small number of people
@@Junitunes Been with my fiancé I met online for almost four years now. Was married to someone I met online before that for 20 years. That being said, I didn't meet them to anonymously play.
Scary that killer dude has 4 children and 90% of schizophrenia is hereditary from the father's side. Hope mom keeps an eye on those kiddos and get them help later in life if they need it. Those cops treated that first victim deplorably. They definitely didn't want him to make a report and add to their workload. Hope they regret that now at least and learned to do better.
I disagree. They clearly were wanting to know whether they could actually pursue anything on the guy and the victim acted like the average battered spouse that refuses to press charges yet knowingly allows the perpetrator to continue. At a certain point accountability matters.
There is only a 6% chance that a child will develop it if a parent has it, more so if it's the mother. You can lower your chances by not drinking, using drugs and managing stress. Also schizophrenia doesn't often result in this lol this is extreme
Normally I skip a video when I've seen the case on other channels. Not when you guys post, though! You always have details/videos/pictures that others don't include!
8:30 it’s always blows my mind how patrol officers fail to properly investigate sex crimes . Intentional or not, whether it’s uncomfortable or not, and whether you’re familiar with the type of acts are all moot points. It’s the exact same reason Jeffery Dahmer was able to be handed back Konerak Sinthasomphone and went on to later take his life.
Its crazy how uncomfortable police are when dealing with sex crimes. Gay or not. So disgusting that they are not willing to be uncomfortable to stop that type of violence.
It blows my mind how these kinda fetishes are common enough amongst homosexuals that police have to consider it may have just been typical homosexual kink stuff.
Never thought a story so close to home would be on here… I worked with Kevin’s sister when this happened. We all just thought he was missing and would be back relatively soon because he’d disappeared in the past. His sister invited all of us (coworkers) to her favorite bar to support her and try and lift her spirits a bit. They ended up finding his body that morning…
I have actually done that myself though - deleted a whole message chain on my phone by accident (not been married to a cannibal killer). Years worth of messages were just gone, and I had no idea how. So listening to the husband, while part of me did raise an eyebrow, I also thought I feel like I could see this happening to me. I was glad he was just the victim of the worst timing ever in the end.
This guy is so manipulative. He enjoys making people uncomfortable and unnerved to get them to do what he wants/leave him alone. I don't think Mark is as unhinged before the murder as he led the people around him and the officers to believe. He's intelligent and knows how to use it.
Perhaps if the cop would've taken the kilt guy seriously and encouraged him to file a report this poor guy wouldn't be dead. Very sad how that poor guy was treated in my opinion.
Yes but you can still make a report. If there are several reports or complaints against the guy, like non consent to sexual violence, that’s coercive rape. So with multiple reports, like that, a cop can choose to go to court and call the victims in as a witness and something can be done. Some people choose not to go to court because it’s their word against the peep’s word or because they fear retaliation. But a police officer can choose to take it to court. So, yes, things can work out, potentially. I’m sure that that cop took a report anyways, or should have.
or if he even had not actively discouraged him. My god, the guy abandoned his possessions to run near naked down the road. Why would any grown man do that unless in fear? But this creep (who never did put away his dog as asked, or come close enough for his face to be seen properly) every time the cop asks, “Was he chained up?” he answers with non-sequiturs like, “Uh…well…he was here today…” The cop offers him loaded questions like, “So he was free to leave any time, right?” then answers them himself anyway. Then the guy, after pretending like a three-year-old that he doesn’t know why the escapee escaped, and then switching to “it was to steal my most valuable piece of leather,” he then actually says, “I took my eye completely off him.” That applies to no consensual interaction: that’s exactly how you speak of an escapee.
I have been WAITING for this video. I am originally from this area and went to the same high school Kevin Bacon attended. At the time of all of this, I was in a law class where my teacher explained that he formerly had the victim as a student back in the day and we covered the case in detail as it progressed. It was all truly so crazy and it is so awesome to see such a thorough examination of this case. Great job as always EWU!
@trisarahtops202 I find it a little weird to make your students study a murder case that gruesome, that’s recent, that happened in your area, with a victim you personally knew, and all of that in law class, in high school (so if it understand correctly it’s mostly minors you give course to). And in detail, and not even in a preventive / overview kind of way to just inform and make the children aware of risks and the law… The teacher seems kinda weird or lacking sensibility in this case if that’s really what happened and I understood correctly.
@@EntrxpicWhxreUmmm, pretty sure it's actually a college/law school setting. Also, I recall covering stuff like Jack the Ripper in high school, as well as all the absolute atrocities of the holocaust, which quite frankly is FAR more gruesome and for many personal.
@@ar2043: In JD's case the police literally handed the teen back to him. In this case, the police were willing to do their job, but the victim declined.
The intro had me thinking "oh boy. This guy claimed to have killed Kevin Bacon. We gotta another case of psychosis again..." Then I saw the victim's name 😂😂
Everyone - if youre going to do risky stuff like hookup with a stranger at their house - tell someone where you are going, who you are meeting and have a safety call where a friend will call you after your event is supposed to be over and if you dont pick up they will alert authorities. Adults have the right to live their lives however they please as long as everything they do is with other consenting adults. But be safe!
Kevin must have been terrified once realising the reality of the situation. Knowing no one was going to save him from this mad man. Poor soul. Rest in peace 🌹
Yes. I don’t believe he wanted to die. He stated in his text that he would be out awhile -a long time. He does not add closure to whom he was texting. He said it would be fun. More people would be there etc.
Yep, I noticed that!! Back when he was 'normal' he had a glint of happiness in his eye. Then flash forward to the recent one and he looks like one dead-eyed dude...
Nooo this man had crazy in the face in both pictures! We have to be able to read people before we spend time with them, my God. It’s always in the eyes.
This channel is definitely great, but there are others, as well. Coffeehouse Crimes, Casual Criminalist, and Red Tree Crime are three tc channels that are great, too. I highly recommend them. :)
@@MidnightSonnet The first two you mentioned and EWU form my trifecta of TC channels. I’ve never heard of Red Tree Crime. They must be good if you’re mentioning them with Casual Criminalist and Coffeehouse Crime, so I’ll check them out.
Men who kill other men from dating sites know they just tell police some Bs about it being consensual and kinky, know the cops may not look into it. That's gotta stop.
@@I-am-Veritas they pressured him into pressing charges and making it official when he didn't have all his clothes on, was still scared and out of breathe and i think they were still close to the killers house. They should have taken their time with him by giving him some water back at the station and some proper clothes, ask him to recount everything and press charges while reassuring him that he wasn't alone. They didn't tell him not to press charges but they did talk him out of it, maybe unknowingly.
No he didn’t. The guy didn’t want to press charges because then his wife would find out what he was doing. The cops were angry that he wouldn’t press charges because they needed him to for them to be able to go after the guy.
I'm a grown ass man but when I go out I tell someone, even a homie, where I'm going. Especially if I'm seeing other men. IDC how big you are, cowards don't need to be big to do something to you, and someone should know who you were with or at least where you went.
My mom is a chemist. Those are some very smart people. It's sad how far untreated mental illness can make a person fall. Just from the drivers license photos showing the progression from a fairly handsome man turning into looking like that cartoon in that 'alpha male' meme, it's a significant change in appearance alone. His house looks like it's a pretty cool house, too. Y'know, except for the creepy murder sex dungeon.
Omg. I was looking for this exact comment! Part of me feels terrible and sick because he’s such a demented POS, but then; another part of me keeps pausing certain crime scene moments and wondering about the architecture and the why’s of which certain moldings are placed; how do you build a bedroom ceiling like that, the beams are truly beautiful. But he still killed an innocent person in a horrific way when he definitely didn’t have too. Man, I suck. Sorry. RIP KEVIN BACON!
I would argue that we have it backwards. "Mental illness", an overused blanket term, being misattributed as the cause for evil behaviour, when it is rather the outcome of such behaviour. An unavoidable outcome of falling further and further into reprobate and devious imaginations of the sinful heart of man. In essence, his changing drivers' license photo is the outward manifestation of the growing inward beast.
@ no I meant before the cops got called he was running up to houses and begging them to let him in but they were too freaked out. He was convinced the guy was hunting him. But yes he definitely should have pressed charges!
To be fair, i would be freaked out if a man in a leather kilt was banging on my door to let him him. I've already had a schizophrenic man try to get into my house one day. When the cops arrived they already knew who it was. Its scary when you dont know a person intentions
The way the police treated the gay man running for his life begging for help and then threatened him if he doesn’t follow through with the prosecution is disturbing this is how Dahmer got away with his shit for so long
No he doesn't he was frustrated because he k ew the guy was a married man and wouldn't press charges and because he didn't they couldn't arrest this freak and a nice kid was murdered by him a month later! He was saving his own skin but everybody knows his secret now.
This happened less than 30 minutes from my home. Kevin went to my high school. The negligence of the police force in the events leading up to his death is infuriating and highlights a deeper issue: straight men in authority often fail to take gay men seriously when it comes to domestic violence and situations like this. Some even treat these incidents as a joke. Rest in peace, Kevin. You deserved so much better.
Also, Mark was a familiar face at my local Kroger, always wearing his kilt and braided beard. While his appearance was unconventional, there was something undeniably unsettling about him. Beyond his eccentricity, there were numerous red flags. His family was aware of his mental illness, which frequently went untreated. This tragedy was entirely avoidable.
The cop basically telling the 1st guy that if he presses charges it will be really embarrassing for him....disgusting police work. Edit: mixed up Kevin with the 1st incident.
It's actually great police work. He doesn't know the magnitude of the situation, but telling the guy up front how a domestic violence accusation like that will embarrass him and put out more information than he might want out there. Or would you rather he not tell him, then the guy gets upset because he's ousted, and drops the charges anyway, so now you've got 2 people with their lives ruined for nothing.
Yeah some mental disorders can be co-morbid with personality disorders. He did have paranoid schizophrenia because he thought that his wells were poisoned by various people, I.e. the neighbor and/or the ex-wife’s brother, who did the plumbing.
@@sashie253 that's exactly what i got reminded of when it came to the victim who escaped. shame on those cops for pressuring that man out of pressing charges, the bias was extremely obvious in their tone.
Absolutely. When the potential charge is a serious one like assault, DV or kidnapping, the onus should never be on the victim to decide whether to press charges.
At first I thought so too. But, I went back and listened and the guy said he didn’t want to press charges or wasn’t sure, he did say they tried to have sex. Honestly, I don’t think they had a clue what was going on and have probably seen tons of crazy things. Even after he said he wanted to go home, they could have dropped it but felt they needed to go check the man out and that encounter kept him on their radar. Just my opinion.
“In my culture, if you have an honorable death, you have to tell someone before you pass three houses.” This is very old Scandinavian law, from the Viking Age. Apparently this guy was obsessed with Vikings and believed he was actually Scandinavian by birth. It’s genuinely disgusting to me hearing this man appropriate my culture in this deranged manner in 2024.
Yeah, like there needs to be some system of a background check run on the people that use these apps, cause it's all too easy for unwitting people to lose their lives using them these days
He knew what he was doing all along. He said things then quickly made them out to be for benevolent reasons. Then he sent texts mocking Kevin. Pathetic with no scruples!
I would stake my life on the fact that, I believe this man has murdered the guy whose name he stole, he kept mentioning him by name. He wanted the police to know that name and how bad he wanted to know where he is at He knows exactly where he’s at. He’s probably in his garden growing under his tulips. The police dropped the ball again.
So if this guy was 25 in 2019 that means he was born in 1994 and the movie Tremors came out in 1990 so everyone in the world knew who Kevin Bacon was and his folks still named him that. Just think about that for a second.
He talks perfectly fine before his arrest. He manages to meet up with people and charm them to come over to his house. Then, SUDDENLY, one he is under arrest he is talking crazy and whimsically.
Right!? Super manipulative! He obviously thought this out. He knew when and how to answer questions to make it seem like he was actually insane. People like this, like that other cannibal that they made the movie "Grimm Love" about, really make me give thought to what insane really means...
Bingo. He is nuts, yes. He’s paranoid in a grandoise way. Grandiosity, I think, was already baked in. He is also constantly lying (he slows right down when he thinks out his lies) he is calculating, he has that “in front of your very eyes” impunity - the psychopathic delight in telling people he “killed Kevin Bacon” , knowing they will misinterpret that as a delusion or off colour joke. He is humungously entitled and holier-than-thou, making himself out to be some sort of compassionate saint. (But delights in going out with the victim’s blood on his body.) One huge, obvious tell (among many) about the escaped victim is when he said that he had “taken my eyes completely off him”. This is how you speak about a prisoner or captive. If it had really consensual, this remark would be nonsensical.
According to his ex-wife, he had actually been diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia, though. She even said she couldn't get him to take his medication. It would have been easy for the police to verify all this, and I'm sure they did. So I don't think the insanity is all an act. People with this condition have 'moments of clarity' (when they can interact with others in a 'normal' way), and they can also speak in a very rational manner even when what they're saying is crazy (which the guy did here)...and that's because they actually believe what they're saying. I'm certain Kevin didn't want to die and never requested any of these things, but I also believe it's possible that this guy thinks his version of the situation/events is the truth.
@@klz9500Because EWU may cover an "old" story, but they give us details and footage that other content creators won't pay the high FOIA fees to obtain! Liam5645 may complain about the old content...yet they know they clicked on the notification and watched the video as soon as it dropped!
@@catwoman2596 man stfu😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 bringing yourself to comment something like this about a young adult that DIED isnt very godly of you. ur fully going to hell btw
@@catwoman2596 First of all, I did not personally know Kevin. I simply went to school with him, as I attended the early college high school that was on campus, and had seen him around when I attended my university classes. Secondly, there is nothing wrong with being gay. I myself am bisexual, and if you believe in God, save the judgement for him to place. It's not your place to judge this murder victim for being gay.
Liking to have lots of s*x doesn't mean you deserve to be killed and eaten. And it certainly doesn't have to be dangerous. People have lots of s*x safely all the time!!!!
You would think after Jeffry Dahmer the police wouldn’t let the fact that victims and potential victims are gay deter them from properly investigating suspects. They could have saved this young man if they had properly investigated the first victim, that escaped.
1) first victim refused to press charges which made it so they couldnt make any arrests or even search his house 2) in Jeffrey Dahmers case everyone seems to leave out what made the cops believe him. Dahmer claimed they were lovers and used the photos he had taken of the boy the day before as proof, photos the boy took before any foul play as that was the reason he went to Dahmers. The photos made the police think they really were in a relationship and the guy was simply just drunk
I love how often people try to use the excuse "I just accidentally clicked something and it deleted all my texts!" No you didn't. There's at least 3 steps involved, if not more.
When you’re regularly hooking up with different strange men you just met then you are taking a huge risk that you’re actually meeting a psychopath who plans to hurt or kill you. You gotta be careful with who you meet and be cautious and have your guard up at all times.
7:22 ..."I've got too much going on" -- THAT'S his reservation about keeping a slave chained in his basement?! Just too busy?!! Guy couldn't hide his true self.
I did delivery in Michigan and two other states in the 80’s. Those days are full of dead kids and adults. I’ve seen things. I’ve felt things. I am alive because I trusted my intuition and got gone fast.
EWU is the ONLY channel I watch true crime on. No crappy music, no shitty assumptions, just straight to the point & your voice is soothing enough that I can fall asleep while listening . Don’t ever change! Your content is PRICELESS! ❤
really, it was not a man with the same name, but the ACTUAL Kevin Bacon? I kept on telling myself that there is no way that the hollywood STAR Kevin Bacon would have died(been brutally murdered) in such a fashion. I have not seen Footlose, but I doubt the guy deserved what happened to him(star or not)
Born and raised and still living in Swartz Creek. As well as Gaines, the farm town so to speak, that’s a part of Swartz Creek school districts. This was so awful. Just awful. Please everyone, if you’re going to meet someone new for any type of companionship, please be safe. Please let someone you trust who can be available if you need help, know where you’re going and what time and when you plan to be back. Check in with them every so often and have a safe word if you need help so you can text it to them or call. I know this isn’t always going to help but do what you can to take some preventative measures to protect yourself and anything else you can think of. Stay safe everyone ❤
Also born and raised there and lived in Gaines my last years there before moving away for college. Have always loved the town and its people and I remember how crazy this was, especially being in high school at the time. Love you message! In fact, stay safe!
I remember you - I graduated from Creek in ‘09. It blew my mind when I read the news about Kevin. It’s the last area I would have expected this to happen.
Thank you to my fellow Dragons as well as everyone who has given sentiments and positive replies to my comment on such a sad case. There are too many cases where looking for companionship leads to awful events such as this. I hope and pray his legacy is providing caution and saving lives and not just his death itself. Though I wish this never had happened to him or anyone. Be sure not only to protect yourselves but to spread the word on safety and make yourself available for those you love if you know they’re meeting someone new for any reason be it companionship or a facebook market sale etc. Have a plan if they need help and be ready in case. God bless you all in safety!
Thank you EWU for all the videos.This one was so hard to watch. I felt sick as that monster was describing everything. I'm old now, but have always been afraid I would be locked up in a cellar. I'm afraid to walk down my street in case I get dragged in a car. Men tried when I was young and it has left me frightened.
i know what you mean, it’s absolutely wild to think any house you drive or walk by could have such evil inside it. the person in line in front you buying groceries could be the most evil creature and you’d generally have no clue.
7:18 Do these officers usually expect a potential criminal, especially one accused of essentially kidnapping, sexual assault at a minimum, to really admit to being guilty of such crime? I guarantee they do not. The fact that they weren't so comfortable with homosexuality likely played a huge role into their pathetic "investigation" which included asking the suspect if he's actually guilty. Funny had they were anywhere near as thorough as they were the second time and did what was necessary to gain access to the home for a quick walk-through, whether by the home owners permission or via search warrant, WHATEVER that man would more likely than not still been alive.
He tacitly admitted it with the victim who escaped. First he had no explanation (and was asked for none!) why the guy abandoned his own clothes and possessions and ran terrified, near naked, barefoot down the road. Then he waffled on about it being to steal his “most expensive piece of leather”. And then he blurted out, “I took my eye completely off him.” That statement should have been a giant red flag and a klaxon to a police officer.
@@shannontimoney5901 No you are wrong. They asked if he wanted to press charges, He said no and that is when they said well the investigation wont go anywhere because if he's not pressing charges then there's no point us investigating. Stop trying to blame police, if the victim doesn't want to press charges and he's not been physically harmed then there is nothing they can do.
@@AussieTracy Even better, they go see the guy and start providing him excuses, the officer being the one to venture that this was "all role-playing stuff" because he clearly heard it was a sexual quarrel and decided it wasn't worth his time. Not sure that I agree considering what actually appears to have been happening. But right, perfect police job here. Aces.
Cops here remind me of the way they were in the Dahmer case, there's literally naked boys and men running from a house on the regular and they're just like " these crazy gays" 👀 while dude is cooking brains upstairs
@@AussieTracy they were totally callous and uncaring of what he had just went through. And on top of that they then went to the accused abductor and handed him a bunch of excuses to use lol you’re gonna tell me that’s good police work?
i was living in owosso MI when this happened, about 10 miles away from the crime scene. it was a harrowing story to follow. but still, i've waited a long time for EWU to cover it. you guys make the best videos.
I don't care what you do, but ALWAYS tell someone where you're going. Signed, a mother.
Good to have a phone with your location tagging a safe friend.
Spoken like a true mother!!!
Unless you're a dude who follows human biology.
If your son is meeting up with random men, you failed as a mother.
@@exiletwin Nice strawman you're building there, partner!
EWU - Thank you for not doing the constant dramatic background music thing that other channels do. Just letting the story speak for itself!
Yes but I wish the narrator still called us "EWU Crew" 😭
Yea! Most of the time i dislike dramatic music especially when viewing true crime. It can be way too distracting. Also the absence of dramatic music will make this video timeless in a way
@kjb-dn5nk oh yea, " what is up EWU crew..."
They had some awesome vids exploring abandoned places
@@kjb-dn5nkSo many ppl complained about it being cringe that they stopped I’m assuming. Ppl are so cringe themselves about cringe 😂
Yeah, I saw this case on another channel and it was hard to stay interested because of the extra animations, music, and the narrator just didn't have the fire that the EWU guy does
He has a dead body hanging in his basement, and he is thinking that he is going home?!
Right! Preposterous!
He is psychotic and lives in constant delusions…he talks about it very nonchalantly and all logic and reasoning is gone. Dude is in his own world and has been for some time.
@RCW_Trader I thought the same he is clearly suffering mental issues. I was surprised not hear about any insanity in his sentencing.
He should be. This guy is mega chill.
Idk I think he might be innocent
I unfortunately knew all of the people involved... They were all regulars at the nightclub where I worked. It still makes me sick to think about how many times I greeted that monster with a friendly hello. My love to Kevin's family. He was a sweet and kind soul. Rest peaceful, my friend. Thank you, EWU, for covering his story.
I'M SORRY FOR THE TRAUMA THIS HAS CAUSED YOU - TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF.
Crazy to think this shit happens in our mitten of paradise.. My mother in law lives a block away from the Justice Stilwel murder house and frequent the area where most of him was found. Fucking scary out here. Wild West 2.0
This hurts my heart 😔 sending prayers and love to you and Kevin’s family 🩵🙏
Sorry to hear such and Bless you all and his family as well this is awful !!!
I heard about this case after Rolling Stone put out an article about Kevin. He does seem like a sweet and kind soul, and he deserved better.
How full of yourself must you be to think you can talk your way out of an arrest after police find a body hanging upside down in your house
Or insane. Lol
Never faced accountability in his life until now. Who knows how many people and perhaps children he has murdered and destroyed 😢
@rebeccagutierrez8170 more likely he's off his fucking rocker
@@rebeccagutierrez8170 according to another commenter who contacted him on Grindr as a minor, he rejected them immediately upon finding out. the commenter even seemed offended which is the real kicker lol. judging from how stupid this kid was, it could've been easy for him if he wanted to. but he isn't a pedophile, which i guess is one silver lining.
@@robertritt9108well he did literally have bad mental health problems so he was insane in a way lol I'm obviously not excluding what he did and I know most people with mental health problems aren't a danger to others though to be clear! All I'm saying is he definitely did have mental health issues so insane is kinda right. One of the EWU channels did a long vid on all this already so I'm debating whether it's worth watching this
i have an issue with the cops in the November incident. The cop's tone was more victim blaming and disgust. Reminds me of the naked boy that the cops came upon and Dahmer came up to say it was a lovers dispute. The kid was so drugged up, but all the cops could do was snicker and just wanted away from that situation, they handed the kid back to Dahmer who later killed the kid.
I'm pretty sure he ate that one too.
I think Dahmer had also drilled a hole into his head... correct me if I'm wrong though
Consequence of a bad lifestyle and bad decisions.
Know the issue was the kid didn't want to press charges. Therefore they could not start investigation unless he wanted to. So him calling the cops it was completely pointless because there's nothing they can do if he doesn't want to press charges.
@@DHFlip18 you are a POS if you think living their lifestyle makes it okay to not show empathy and do more when crime is committed against them
I interactd with the killer when i worked at home depot service desk. He was an asshole. I remember one of my managers saying he gave him his personal cell number if he had any complaints and began sending him inappropriate photos. And yes he wore his kilt everytime. Kinda hard to forget that.
don't ever give a customer a personal phone number my god 😭😭
Dang! Did he go to home depot often?
Who tf would give a customer their personal phone number?? Your manager was kinda asking to be fucked with lol
That's crazy.
WTF? Was your manager fired? Because that's brain-damaged unprofessional behavior. And apparently he's too stupid to live.
Absolutely disgusting the way those officers spoke to the first victim. No wonder he did not want to press charge.
I noticed that. 😢
It's not their fault he didn't want to pursue charges.
@@sharp14xdid you hear the way they spoke to him? I wouldn’t have wanted to press charges if I was spoken to like that.
I felt the same. They treated him like a sexual deviant who was asking for it (much like they do prostitutes and rape victims), if they had treated him as a potential victim of a serious crime, they would have probably been able to get a search warrant for his address sooner and put this situation to bed before someone died.
I actually thought they were kinda chill. They could tell he was fibbing a bit and being kinda sheepish... so they tried to talk about it like it wasn't a big deal - and it worked. By speaking of it casually he was more inclined to admit it. Did I miss something? I'm open to being wrong I just didn't hear them mocking or snickering or being sarcastic... what'd I miss?
Even more wild is that there was actually 2 victims that had gotten away before Kevin was murdered.
2 victims that got away and called the police (but still didn't press charges). I bet there were more
I wonder if either one of them wishes they had pressed charges.
Kevin might still be alive if they had.
@@Stoshnutdid you not hear the police and the homophobic, judgmental things they said? Ofc they didn’t
kind of remind me of Jeffrey Dahmer in some of this story
It’s really gut wrenching how many horrible crimes would never had happened if people had simply pressed charges. It’s baffling how these monsters repeatedly get away with serious crimes and are able to escalate as they go.
Him being so concerned and frustrated that someone took his kilt is WILD.
You have to get robbed constantly to understand
This nutball would have been mad if someone sneezed in his direction..I'm pretty sure the guy grabbed the first piece of clothing available and escaped when he had the chance
If someone stole my kilt it would go bad. Thieves and Scots are natural enemies like Englishmen and Scots.Or Welshmen and Scots. Or Japanese and Scots. Or Scots and other Scots. Damn Scots They Ruined Scotland
@@Mrskamath-zq7qvexactly or live with someone constantly taking your stuff whom you let live with you who has nowhere else to go.
I think it’s wild that some guy running half naked away and wanting to press charges, and all the police do to investigate is talk to the guy
So if I get kidnapped in managed to escape, and I tell the cops exactly where to find my kidnapper. They just going to talk to him and say that he did nothing wrong and believe him immediately.
Like they were grilling, the younger guy running away in fear like he’s the problem
And they talk to the older guy like it’s an inconvenience that they’re even needing to investigate
Just finished one video and immediately get another one. Thanks EWU
which one b4 this one did you watch?
the GILBERT murder?
Yeah I’m really surprised right now . They bumping up the content for the holidays I guess and I’m loving it . 💪💯
It’s on the original ewu channel . The one about a routine welfare check about the mom that was missing
ewu has been pumping out videos like crazy! good work!!
I live in this area and went to school for a short time with Kevin! When this story broke out, everyone was completely floored something like that happened to someone in the community. You just never know what’s going through someone mind. Thank you for sharing this story EWU! 🙏🏾💜
We're you a friend to kevin?probably not
Those cops bear some responsibility here. That's NOT how you treat a victim! 😢 No wonder he was afraid to file a report.
Should have given him warm clothes, reassurance and water at the station before even mentioning filing an official report. The guy just ran for his life.
He was afraid to file a report because he didn’t want his wife to find out that he was meeting men for sex. He refused to help the cops by pressing charges so they could arrest Latunski. They got angry with him. It’s just like when they respond to a DV call but the woman won’t press charges and they know the man is just gonna hit her again.
There's always going to be the 'man on man' assault that heterosexual men, no matter what, refuse to see a victim and perpetrator. It's outside their purview. 😞
Or just don't get into dark creepy shit like this in the first place.
They were nicer to the suspect
Always press charges!!!!! you could be saving someone's life! If it's abuse or DV or something like this doesn't matter... always press charges!!
I have reported. It was horrific. If I was confronted and treated like those cops did to the victim I wouldn't have pressed charges either. Would not feel safe doing so.
the cop talked that guy out of it. he was already scared and vulnerable and that cop's tone pressured him to stay silent.
True, but it's hard to do so when a cop is doing all they can to persuade you to not do so. When it comes to a minority in a community that isn't too accepting, it's easier to be manipulated by authorities who'd rather not deal with you and your "queer" problems. Finding a supportive cop in red areas is like finding a diamond in the rough.
@@annadrift4 it should never be up to the victim of any bodilynor potentially serious crime to decide to press charges.
@@eh1702 what'd you say?
"Sir, what is your name?"
Mark: "Well, we gotta first wind the clocks back to 1972..."
Dude gives a Tolkien Novel's worth of info to every simple question he's asked
"What's your first name?" Mark answers, "Ummmmm." Then goes into this crazy monologue about a black-eyed cripple when they ask him his last name. But who has to hesitate before they say their first name? That was a huge red flag, along with everything else he said and how he behaved.
That's when I remember that I watched this case on another channel a long time ago.
😂😂😂
@@sandgrownun66I've watched a lot about this case, also, but as always, EWU has information on the case I've never seen before. 😊
Distraction tactic
Family & Friends: He was unpredictable and got aggressive, had severe mental problems and sometimes spoke gibberish.
Also them: This isnt his personality...
Us: Are you slow or just helping him commit crimes?
This man is gruesome in the DAYLIGHT... I couldn't imagine my last hours on Earth being chained upside down in a dark basement, listening to this wicked man's voice.
R.I.P. Kevin 😢
You can't imagine, because you're not a dude, getting with other dudes.
Rasputin in the flesh
@@kenw2225that makes no sense 😂 no one would understand this?! This person is insane
@@kenw2225if you’re insecure about your sexuality just say that
@@eileendover7896lol he's definitely insecure....
Dang those first cops totally shut down that victim that had to escape and was chased down the street. You could tell he did not want to talk after that cop came at him with so much cynicism and laziness. Similar to Jeffrey Dahmer the cops do not take gay men or women serious.
Exactly this!
Shoulda pressed charges
🎯🎯🎯
Exactly!!
Depends on the area. If you live in a blue area, there's a good chance the lgbtqia community will be taken seriously. In a red area/state, not a chance in hell, unfortunately.
The wildest part of this case to me is that the first guy who ran scared from Mark was the one who chatted with him on the cannibal site arranging to be eaten n asking for a kill room etc. Then after he went there almost got killed n ran he refused to give the police any important details and CONTINUED chatting with Mark after the incident AND was privy to the kill room improvements after him, the luring, murder and eating of poor Kevin. He got pictures of everything from Mark and even had an arrangement to see Mark AGAIN when all this went down. One might say this dude thought Mark was role playing but not after his own experience AND considering the message n photos he got afterwards. Shouldn't that guy be an accessory or be charged with obstruction at that point??
I mean, the way the cops talked to him was pretty shameful and gaslighting, plus he didn't want people to know he was into that kind of stuff or he didn't want everyone to know he was gay
@@siubhanmora-bruce2952they basically told him if they didn't want to press charges they couldn't open a case
No
I think he was more embarrassed than anything and the cops definitely gave off vibes of "well you put yourself in this situation, so don't waste our time". Hardly any support from law enforcement encouraging him to use his rights.
Yes of course if he helped redesign the room knowing it was going to be used for murder
People, what's really crazy, is the fact that there are a lot of Mark Latunskis running around in general society with us.
The hair and wearing that kind of 'kilt' might help give them away.
One out of every 10 people is a psychopath
Yeah you really don't no people.
Truth
His wife got away with the kids, thank God. He's insane
He's nuts. He’s a paranoid. He’s also a relentless liar, a calculating manipulator and deceiver, he’s a physical sadist and psychological torturer, he’s very aware that he had no right to do what he did, he has a humungous sense of entitlement - and he has the psychopath’s delight in telling the literal truth about himself in such a way that people don’t believe it. Like when he told people he had “killed Kevin Bacon”.
Indeed!
Poor kids have to grow up knowing that is their father. I hope they're ok.
@@DamePigleti hope she just told them that he died.. which he is basically a dead man walking anyway.. if she told them that, its not really a lie but more so true..
Wow. A gay guy ends up being a freak killer? SHOCKER…..
Once again I hear "schizophrenia", and I will say again, this is demonic possession. I can't imagine the horror of what was going on in that basement.
Cop being dead serious: “So you had no intention of keeping him here forever as a slave in your basement?” 😵
The look on the cop's face when Latunski started ranting about the neighbor putting arsenic in the well was pretty funny.
right he looked right in the camera like wtf. 😂😂😂😂
Lol and when they zoomed in on his face 😂
You should’ve felt disturbed as well. Sorry to say. It’s capped empathy.
@@prettypearls26 You smugly projected your own feelings onto Zara, sorry to say. Its capped empathy
@@prettypearls26 I didn't feel disturbed at all I'd be pretty weirded out too if a guy was in the backseat ranting like a psychopath and I had to deal with that driving him to the police station.
As a gay man with interest in BDSM who has used apps (namely Grindr) to arrange potential hookups (I say potential because I've only ever had one) this genuinely made me delete the app. Though I am careful, get to know people first, keep an eye out for red flags, always meet in public first and always tell someone where I'm going, this made my stomach turn. I'm a small guy, 5'6, 150lbs, I would not stand a chance if an older and stronger man decided he wanted to hurt me. Nope. This genuinely put me off so hard.
There are a whole lot of sick people out there. Many of them look and behave perfectly normally. Until they don't.
stay safe!!💜
Always tell a trusted person where u r going and with who🙏🏻stay safe
As a 5’1 150 lb straight woman I deleted dating apps too. It’s too risky
Stay safe out there. ❤
I’d have checked to make sure he wasn’t poisoning his neighbors wells instead ..😮😮
"THERES A SNAKE IN MY BOOT!"
This guy is completely nuts. It is scary that this type of person is out there
He’s nuts, but he is also well oriented enough to lie and lie and lie. It is very possible to be nuts and also evil. He is perfectly aware of right and wrong, he is calculating and audacious. He makes himself out to be such a compassionate saint.
Mostly what he is, is entitled and sanctimonious.
It is a huge tell how he pretends to be baffled about why the previous guy abandoned his own possessions and ran mostly naked down the road. And then he pretends to think that the escaped victim just wanted to steal his most expensive piece of leather.
He hints at what is a very typical psychopathic trait. Which is telling the truth about themselves in such a way that people don’t believe it or think it’s a joke.
“I killed Kevin Bacon, Kevin Bacon is my hero.”
Yes, he may well be paranoid, but he is an evil, knowing, sly, calculating sadistic, mendacious bastard.
yeah, they need to be inpatient or in supervised supportive housing. But we spend so much money on jails and war that we can't take care of the safety of people and trying to treat seriously mentally ill people. somehow its easier to jail people than to house/treat them and then they go out and hurt others in society, winding up in jail with great collateral damage. SO backwards.
Ye gays exist.. He also ate people!
Had a family member who was a schizophrenic. He reminds me of this dude, but he never posed a danger to anyone but himself.
This is just a murderer who happens to have another mental disorder besides being a murderer
right they everywhere that's why we have so many missing person's cases
Never forget that "hooking up" is dangerous.
Had a guy pull a gun on me with no warning once; please be safe. A nut ain't worth your life.
It’s crazy how you can sleep with someone and then they try to kill you like you were nothing. Hookups should at least mean something to people they shared their body with you it has to have some meaning people are so messed up
@TeamTwiistz that’s so horrible some people really are monsters :(
Jesus that's AWFUL, I hope you're healing and feeling okay out here
Who would’ve thought that uncontrolled hedonism and dehumanization could lead to potentially life threatening situations? Crazy!
Don’t date randoms.
Stop meeting up with strangers you meet online.
What, and get hatecrimed by all the trogolodytes in trump gear?
@@nopenope6034 hey fellas look we got a regular jussie smollet over here
@@nopenope6034what? 😂
Been with my bf for a year and met him online. Best relationship I've ever had.
I have friends that got married and met on tinder too. This is a small number of people
@@Junitunes Been with my fiancé I met online for almost four years now. Was married to someone I met online before that for 20 years. That being said, I didn't meet them to anonymously play.
Scary that killer dude has 4 children and 90% of schizophrenia is hereditary from the father's side. Hope mom keeps an eye on those kiddos and get them help later in life if they need it.
Those cops treated that first victim deplorably. They definitely didn't want him to make a report and add to their workload. Hope they regret that now at least and learned to do better.
I disagree. They clearly were wanting to know whether they could actually pursue anything on the guy and the victim acted like the average battered spouse that refuses to press charges yet knowingly allows the perpetrator to continue. At a certain point accountability matters.
There is only a 6% chance that a child will develop it if a parent has it, more so if it's the mother. You can lower your chances by not drinking, using drugs and managing stress. Also schizophrenia doesn't often result in this lol this is extreme
@@RepairingFaith it really came off like they didn't take it seriously because it was gay people to me
@RepairingFaith no they didn't. They were aggressive and dismissive
The overwhelming majority of people with schizophrenia do not behave like this. This guy was a lunatic asshole who had schizophrenia.
Normally I skip a video when I've seen the case on other channels. Not when you guys post, though! You always have details/videos/pictures that others don't include!
I never skip EWO even if I know the case well.
I was actually wondering if this was a repost because I've seen this case before. 😅
Same
Same!
Most channels just show the interrogation footage without doing a deep dive into the story and details. This channel is great at deep dives
omg did I write this comment ???!? ~ i literally was about to skip by it but then I realized ooooh i haven't see THIS footage ! ❤❤❤
8:30 it’s always blows my mind how patrol officers fail to properly investigate sex crimes . Intentional or not, whether it’s uncomfortable or not, and whether you’re familiar with the type of acts are all moot points. It’s the exact same reason Jeffery Dahmer was able to be handed back Konerak Sinthasomphone and went on to later take his life.
This is why the 🏳️🌈 community continues to fight for equal protection under the law. How could things be consensual WITH CHAINS IN A BASEMENT ?
Its crazy how uncomfortable police are when dealing with sex crimes. Gay or not. So disgusting that they are not willing to be uncomfortable to stop that type of violence.
THIS. Cops arent ur friend if ur a sex crime victim. Be black, gay, or trans? Dont even bother with the cops at all... know from experience
It blows my mind how these kinda fetishes are common enough amongst homosexuals that police have to consider it may have just been typical homosexual kink stuff.
The fact that he is asking how he's going to get back home after police found a hanging dead body in is basement is wild
Never thought a story so close to home would be on here… I worked with Kevin’s sister when this happened. We all just thought he was missing and would be back relatively soon because he’d disappeared in the past.
His sister invited all of us (coworkers) to her favorite bar to support her and try and lift her spirits a bit. They ended up finding his body that morning…
I'm not asking and dont want to know, but I hope she's doing okay. I can't imagine going through this.
Oh no, I'm so sorry you all had to go through that....I'm glad she had you and other folks there to support her, so thank you...
Oh, please. One look at Kevin makes it obvious that he's no loss. The family is just as much to blame for his degeneracy.
I was actually wondering when EWU would post this case. I knew they would. I'm from MI too.
@@lilyw.719I imagine people in your life will think the same about you when you leave this world
His Husband ‘accidentally’ deleted all the messages between him and his killer spouse 🙄
😂😂😂
What are you suggesting? The husband was involved?
They don't disappear
They checked the retrieved messages and polygraphed him, he wasn't involved at all
I have actually done that myself though - deleted a whole message chain on my phone by accident (not been married to a cannibal killer). Years worth of messages were just gone, and I had no idea how. So listening to the husband, while part of me did raise an eyebrow, I also thought I feel like I could see this happening to me. I was glad he was just the victim of the worst timing ever in the end.
Everytime they mention Kevin's full name they post a picture of Kevin Richard Bacon just so everyone knows it's not Kevin Bacon, the actor.
@@BamBusinessman i read that in an indian voice
@@billiejoewilliams7951 lol American here.
@@BamBusinessmanwere you soliciting women in RUclips comment sections?
This guy is so manipulative. He enjoys making people uncomfortable and unnerved to get them to do what he wants/leave him alone. I don't think Mark is as unhinged before the murder as he led the people around him and the officers to believe. He's intelligent and knows how to use it.
Perhaps if the cop would've taken the kilt guy seriously and encouraged him to file a report this poor guy wouldn't be dead. Very sad how that poor guy was treated in my opinion.
at least he's alive, that we know of
The guy said he didn’t want to press charges. Are you kidding me? It’s like you didn’t watch
The only reason that guy said he didn't want to press charges was because of the way the cops talked to him.
Yes but you can still make a report. If there are several reports or complaints against the guy, like non consent to sexual violence, that’s coercive rape. So with multiple reports, like that, a cop can choose to go to court and call the victims in as a witness and something can be done. Some people choose not to go to court because it’s their word against the peep’s word or because they fear retaliation. But a police officer can choose to take it to court. So, yes, things can work out, potentially. I’m sure that that cop took a report anyways, or should have.
or if he even had not actively discouraged him. My god, the guy abandoned his possessions to run near naked down the road. Why would any grown man do that unless in fear? But this creep (who never did put away his dog as asked, or come close enough for his face to be seen properly) every time the cop asks, “Was he chained up?” he answers with non-sequiturs like, “Uh…well…he was here today…”
The cop offers him loaded questions like, “So he was free to leave any time, right?” then answers them himself anyway.
Then the guy, after pretending like a three-year-old that he doesn’t know why the escapee escaped, and then switching to “it was to steal my most valuable piece of leather,” he then actually says, “I took my eye completely off him.”
That applies to no consensual interaction: that’s exactly how you speak of an escapee.
I have been WAITING for this video. I am originally from this area and went to the same high school Kevin Bacon attended. At the time of all of this, I was in a law class where my teacher explained that he formerly had the victim as a student back in the day and we covered the case in detail as it progressed. It was all truly so crazy and it is so awesome to see such a thorough examination of this case. Great job as always EWU!
@trisarahtops202 I find it a little weird to make your students study a murder case that gruesome, that’s recent, that happened in your area, with a victim you personally knew, and all of that in law class, in high school (so if it understand correctly it’s mostly minors you give course to). And in detail, and not even in a preventive / overview kind of way to just inform and make the children aware of risks and the law… The teacher seems kinda weird or lacking sensibility in this case if that’s really what happened and I understood correctly.
@@EntrxpicWhxredamn you should contact the teacher instead of coming at this person then
@EntrxpicWhxre you've completely misunderstood what they said.
@@EntrxpicWhxreUmmm, pretty sure it's actually a college/law school setting. Also, I recall covering stuff like Jack the Ripper in high school, as well as all the absolute atrocities of the holocaust, which quite frankly is FAR more gruesome and for many personal.
@EntrxpicWhxre yeah lawyers don't have to review recent gruesome cases in their line of work 😂
Me yesterday: “I’m done with the dark murderer documentaries for awhile”
Me today: “EWU dropped a new video? Let’s goooooo”
🤦🏽♂️😂
Two new videos today!!! Check Explore With Us for the other one from today. It’s nuttttsss
And this one is especially dark in my opinion
same with me 😭✋🏼 , 3/4 days straight i watch murder documentary non stop and i need a break for my mental health but yk what . here i am 🫳🏼🥹
The dark side of human behavior is just too compelling.
Not new, this case has been doing the rounds for a while.
His username "O Lykos" translating to "The Wolf" makes this even more disturbing
His cadence is insufferable.
His schizophrenic rambling is maddening
I agree with the cadence being absolutely cringe worthy!! Thank you I’m glad I’m not the only one who feels this way.
Are you related to Dave?
He slows down a lot when he’s lying. And making up this saintly, caring persona.
If they had taken the first guy seriously, Kevin wouldn't be dead.
💯🎯
If the first guy had pressed charges when police asked him, Kevin would be still alive.
You do wonder how many other young guys disappeared after meeting him.
The average age for S-Ks to start is 27.
@brandyb Yeppers!!! Just like the naked teenage Asian running out of Jeffrey Damars house that late night/early morning! Sheesh...... 😒
@@ar2043: In JD's case the police literally handed the teen back to him. In this case,
the police were willing to do their job, but the victim declined.
The intro had me thinking "oh boy. This guy claimed to have killed Kevin Bacon. We gotta another case of psychosis again..."
Then I saw the victim's name 😂😂
Same! Made me lol.
That's what I thought. I was fresh off of Eminimem was talking to Saara Gilbert, the one that is not an actress.
@@bethanybergeson4192man that one was sad
Fr though just got done with the Sarra Gilbert story 🤣
mmmmmm... bacon....
Everyone - if youre going to do risky stuff like hookup with a stranger at their house - tell someone where you are going, who you are meeting and have a safety call where a friend will call you after your event is supposed to be over and if you dont pick up they will alert authorities.
Adults have the right to live their lives however they please as long as everything they do is with other consenting adults. But be safe!
Kevin must have been terrified once realising the reality of the situation. Knowing no one was going to save him from this mad man. Poor soul. Rest in peace 🌹
I wanna be a hairdresser.
No... I wanna be two.
I wanna be two hairdressers.
I think he wanted to die. Seems like he knew it was a pretty sketchy situation.
@@ZBirDEverydaylike that? Would you wanna die suspended from some strangers ceiling in your birthday suit? Not too bright are ya?
@@ZBirDEveryday I am not convinced of that but we will never know.
Yes. I don’t believe he wanted to die. He stated in his text that he would be out awhile -a long time. He does not add closure to whom he was texting. He said it would be fun. More people would be there etc.
36:02 the difference between his ID photos is wild. He looked so normal, then you can see he just looks OFF.
Thank you for the timestamp! I totally missed the IDs. 😊
The way he turns to look at the camera and grins, at the very end of this video, is absolutely chilling.
Yep, I noticed that!! Back when he was 'normal' he had a glint of happiness in his eye. Then flash forward to the recent one and he looks like one dead-eyed dude...
Nooo this man had crazy in the face in both pictures! We have to be able to read people before we spend time with them, my God. It’s always in the eyes.
@princessshuri5632 ok then. 👍
Cops let this happen when they bullied the first victim so mercilessly.
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Ain't it mane
Genuinely. They are the only tc channel I will willingly listen to.
This channel is definitely great, but there are others, as well. Coffeehouse Crimes, Casual Criminalist, and Red Tree Crime are three tc channels that are great, too. I highly recommend them. :)
@@MidnightSonnet The first two you mentioned and EWU form my trifecta of TC channels. I’ve never heard of Red Tree Crime. They must be good if you’re mentioning them with Casual Criminalist and Coffeehouse Crime, so I’ll check them out.
@@MidnightSonnet Are you perhaps British?
4:05 cop talked this guy out of pressing charges. There's better ways of asking if you want to press charges.
Men who kill other men from dating sites know they just tell police some Bs about it being consensual and kinky, know the cops may not look into it. That's gotta stop.
@larsvonrinpoche1229 To be fair, nobody wants to examine the intricacies of gay s3x and relationships. Gross and degenerate..
No he didn't.
He asked him if he wanted to press charges and he said no.
@@I-am-Veritas they pressured him into pressing charges and making it official when he didn't have all his clothes on, was still scared and out of breathe and i think they were still close to the killers house. They should have taken their time with him by giving him some water back at the station and some proper clothes, ask him to recount everything and press charges while reassuring him that he wasn't alone. They didn't tell him not to press charges but they did talk him out of it, maybe unknowingly.
No he didn’t. The guy didn’t want to press charges because then his wife would find out what he was doing. The cops were angry that he wouldn’t press charges because they needed him to for them to be able to go after the guy.
I'm a grown ass man but when I go out I tell someone, even a homie, where I'm going. Especially if I'm seeing other men. IDC how big you are, cowards don't need to be big to do something to you, and someone should know who you were with or at least where you went.
Man... this guy LOVES hearing himself talk
My mom is a chemist. Those are some very smart people.
It's sad how far untreated mental illness can make a person fall.
Just from the drivers license photos showing the progression from a fairly handsome man turning into looking like that cartoon in that 'alpha male' meme, it's a significant change in appearance alone.
His house looks like it's a pretty cool house, too.
Y'know, except for the creepy murder sex dungeon.
The general population would rather believe it is a choice or someone’s fault. Thank you for being an advocate! 💚
made me think of walter white
Omg. I was looking for this exact comment! Part of me feels terrible and sick because he’s such a demented POS, but then; another part of me keeps pausing certain crime scene moments and wondering about the architecture and the why’s of which certain moldings are placed; how do you build a bedroom ceiling like that, the beams are truly beautiful. But he still killed an innocent person in a horrific way when he definitely didn’t have too. Man, I suck. Sorry. RIP KEVIN BACON!
I would argue that we have it backwards. "Mental illness", an overused blanket term, being misattributed as the cause for evil behaviour, when it is rather the outcome of such behaviour. An unavoidable outcome of falling further and further into reprobate and devious imaginations of the sinful heart of man.
In essence, his changing drivers' license photo is the outward manifestation of the growing inward beast.
I agree except for terms. I believe he’s demon possessed.
Pretty bad the way this dude went. Brutal. Like a horror film including the guy who escaped and no one would help him.
No one would help him because he didn't help himself.
If he's not going to press charges, then there's no crime to investigate.
@ no I meant before the cops got called he was running up to houses and begging them to let him in but they were too freaked out. He was convinced the guy was hunting him. But yes he definitely should have pressed charges!
To be fair, i would be freaked out if a man in a leather kilt was banging on my door to let him him. I've already had a schizophrenic man try to get into my house one day. When the cops arrived they already knew who it was. Its scary when you dont know a person intentions
The way the police treated the gay man running for his life begging for help and then threatened him if he doesn’t follow through with the prosecution is disturbing this is how Dahmer got away with his shit for so long
Well that cop needs to go into a different profession
No he doesn't he was frustrated because he k ew the guy was a married man and wouldn't press charges and because he didn't they couldn't arrest this freak and a nice kid was murdered by him a month later! He was saving his own skin but everybody knows his secret now.
This happened less than 30 minutes from my home. Kevin went to my high school. The negligence of the police force in the events leading up to his death is infuriating and highlights a deeper issue: straight men in authority often fail to take gay men seriously when it comes to domestic violence and situations like this. Some even treat these incidents as a joke. Rest in peace, Kevin. You deserved so much better.
Also, Mark was a familiar face at my local Kroger, always wearing his kilt and braided beard. While his appearance was unconventional, there was something undeniably unsettling about him. Beyond his eccentricity, there were numerous red flags. His family was aware of his mental illness, which frequently went untreated. This tragedy was entirely avoidable.
That’s horrifying! I’ve heard of some locals being crazy neighbors but this guy is a whole other level of insane and pure evil!
I understand the cops !😅
it was because the victims were gay men, so sadly, the cops didn't take it seriously. Similar thing happened with the victim of Jeffrey Dahmer. Sad!
The other people said they didn’t want to press charges. So what were the police supposed to do?
Be careful on those dating sites! Talk for a month before meeting, meet in a public area, drive yourself home.
"Dating site" is a misnomer for vulgar and despicable depravity. Call this anonymous sex for what it is.
Dating sites are dangerous enough, but these hookup sites can be incredibly risky. Unfortunately, this is part of their attraction for some people.
and don't be a 'ho 'ho 'ho
@@frazzleface753Exactly. Lumpys ads were very graphic s&m. How do ppl let strangers tie them up for ... nevermind.
And share your location with a friend. First dates can be interesting.
Do detectives go for therapy after such an interview? 😢
Many live for twisted shit.
Wake up
Some do, some don't even though they should, and some are just built different.
The cop basically telling the 1st guy that if he presses charges it will be really embarrassing for him....disgusting police work.
Edit: mixed up Kevin with the 1st incident.
Disgusting example of humanity.
That never happened with Kevin that was a different guy
Still bad police work but just not with Kevin
How? it is embarrassing.
@heathergraham64 yeah that was my bad i just re-watched and realized it was a different incident
It's actually great police work.
He doesn't know the magnitude of the situation, but telling the guy up front how a domestic violence accusation like that will embarrass him and put out more information than he might want out there.
Or would you rather he not tell him, then the guy gets upset because he's ousted, and drops the charges anyway, so now you've got 2 people with their lives ruined for nothing.
Late onset schizophrenia or paranoid personality disorder is wild, especially in someone who is this intelligent.
Yeah some mental disorders can be co-morbid with personality disorders. He did have paranoid schizophrenia because he thought that his wells were poisoned by various people, I.e. the neighbor and/or the ex-wife’s brother, who did the plumbing.
The way these officers spoke to that man what are you looking to have done… That's disgusting their bias is definitely showing
They did the same thing with Dahmer
@@sashie253 that's exactly what i got reminded of when it came to the victim who escaped. shame on those cops for pressuring that man out of pressing charges, the bias was extremely obvious in their tone.
It pisses me off so fkn much
Absolutely. When the potential charge is a serious one like assault, DV or kidnapping, the onus should never be on the victim to decide whether to press charges.
At first I thought so too. But, I went back and listened and the guy said he didn’t want to press charges or wasn’t sure, he did say they tried to have sex. Honestly, I don’t think they had a clue what was going on and have probably seen tons of crazy things. Even after he said he wanted to go home, they could have dropped it but felt they needed to go check the man out and that encounter kept him on their radar. Just my opinion.
“In my culture, if you have an honorable death, you have to tell someone before you pass three houses.”
This is very old Scandinavian law, from the Viking Age. Apparently this guy was obsessed with Vikings and believed he was actually Scandinavian by birth. It’s genuinely disgusting to me hearing this man appropriate my culture in this deranged manner in 2024.
Stay away from those dating apps folks!
literally just never leave the house its safer
@@hunni_chanexactly that lmao, i mean we have so many schizos and psychopaths in society nowadays 😅
Yeah, like there needs to be some system of a background check run on the people that use these apps, cause it's all too easy for unwitting people to lose their lives using them these days
@@hunni_chanThat too, much safer to enjoy interests indoors! 😂
@@hunni_chan If you meet people other than by internet, you automatically filter people who do nothing but use the internet.
He knew what he was doing all along. He said things then quickly made them out to be for benevolent reasons. Then he sent texts mocking Kevin. Pathetic with no scruples!
I would stake my life on the fact that, I believe this man has murdered the guy whose name he stole, he kept mentioning him by name. He wanted the police to know that name and how bad he wanted to know where he is at He knows exactly where he’s at. He’s probably in his garden growing under his tulips. The police dropped the ball again.
So if this guy was 25 in 2019 that means he was born in 1994 and the movie Tremors came out in 1990 so everyone in the world knew who Kevin Bacon was and his folks still named him that. Just think about that for a second.
Marks explanation, claiming Kevin asked for this was pure bs. This was Marks Christmas present to himself, nothing else.
He talks perfectly fine before his arrest. He manages to meet up with people and charm them to come over to his house. Then, SUDDENLY, one he is under arrest he is talking crazy and whimsically.
Right!? Super manipulative! He obviously thought this out. He knew when and how to answer questions to make it seem like he was actually insane. People like this, like that other cannibal that they made the movie "Grimm Love" about, really make me give thought to what insane really means...
Bingo. He is nuts, yes. He’s paranoid in a grandoise way. Grandiosity, I think, was already baked in.
He is also constantly lying (he slows right down when he thinks out his lies) he is calculating, he has that “in front of your very eyes” impunity - the psychopathic delight in telling people he “killed Kevin Bacon” , knowing they will misinterpret that as a delusion or off colour joke.
He is humungously entitled and holier-than-thou, making himself out to be some sort of compassionate saint. (But delights in going out with the victim’s blood on his body.)
One huge, obvious tell (among many) about the escaped victim is when he said that he had “taken my eyes completely off him”. This is how you speak about a prisoner or captive. If it had really consensual, this remark would be nonsensical.
35.54mins , the ex wife says he was diagnosed as being a paranoid schizophrenic in 2012, after a 2nd MH facility stay: just before they split up.
I bet he didn't need to charm much gay dudes gravitate to eachother like no other .
According to his ex-wife, he had actually been diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia, though. She even said she couldn't get him to take his medication. It would have been easy for the police to verify all this, and I'm sure they did.
So I don't think the insanity is all an act.
People with this condition have 'moments of clarity' (when they can interact with others in a 'normal' way), and they can also speak in a very rational manner even when what they're saying is crazy (which the guy did here)...and that's because they actually believe what they're saying.
I'm certain Kevin didn't want to die and never requested any of these things, but I also believe it's possible that this guy thinks his version of the situation/events is the truth.
We are being SPOILED this week holy shit
Make that Christmas Adsense money, EWU 🙌💰
EWU rarely disappoints
Two old cases that have ben covered by loads of other RUclipsrs? Hardly spoilt in my opinion.
@@liamd5645why are you here watching then?
@@klz9500Because EWU may cover an "old" story, but they give us details and footage that other content creators won't pay the high FOIA fees to obtain! Liam5645 may complain about the old content...yet they know they clicked on the notification and watched the video as soon as it dropped!
If you have a family member acting like the suspect in this video, get them help
It's too bad such awful things happened in that beautiful little house. You can tell his ex-wife put a lot of love into it.
He attended the same university as me and we lived in the same area. Our whole community was distraught over his passing.
@@catwoman2596 God bless the gays! :D
That's crazy honestly
@@MateDrinker33lol?
@@catwoman2596 man stfu😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 bringing yourself to comment something like this about a young adult that DIED isnt very godly of you. ur fully going to hell btw
@@catwoman2596 First of all, I did not personally know Kevin. I simply went to school with him, as I attended the early college high school that was on campus, and had seen him around when I attended my university classes. Secondly, there is nothing wrong with being gay. I myself am bisexual, and if you believe in God, save the judgement for him to place. It's not your place to judge this murder victim for being gay.
This case is nuts. Kinky scene can attract the most deranged people.
Careful, the PC nazis will attack you for sharing common sense.
I agree, although some people are offended by my opinion.
Liking to have lots of s*x doesn't mean you deserve to be killed and eaten. And it certainly doesn't have to be dangerous. People have lots of s*x safely all the time!!!!
gays are usually attracted to stuff like this... go figure
Seriously it can get deadly fast smh
I think I speak for most of us when I say, "....the fuck?"
Went to school with kevin, such a kind soul. Had the whole town shook when it was all unfolding.
I knew him too. We were definitely shook in our town! He was a very nice guy, who definitely didn't deserve this :(
All the creeps meet up at Walmart 🤯
You would think after Jeffry Dahmer the police wouldn’t let the fact that victims and potential victims are gay deter them from properly investigating suspects. They could have saved this young man if they had properly investigated the first victim, that escaped.
you underestimate how homophobic the world is. The worst thing is, now they target trans people to boost...
1) first victim refused to press charges which made it so they couldnt make any arrests or even search his house
2) in Jeffrey Dahmers case everyone seems to leave out what made the cops believe him. Dahmer claimed they were lovers and used the photos he had taken of the boy the day before as proof, photos the boy took before any foul play as that was the reason he went to Dahmers. The photos made the police think they really were in a relationship and the guy was simply just drunk
Yep. Homophobia sucks.
Right but you should know why by now
I love how often people try to use the excuse "I just accidentally clicked something and it deleted all my texts!" No you didn't. There's at least 3 steps involved, if not more.
🤣🤣🤣🤣👌
Yes exactly!
When you’re regularly hooking up with different strange men you just met then you are taking a huge risk that you’re actually meeting a psychopath who plans to hurt or kill you. You gotta be careful with who you meet and be cautious and have your guard up at all times.
2 in one day?!
3 actually. EWU, ewu bodycam, and ewu. crime storytime
@damnitboy9635 oooo I didn't get the notification on body cam channel and I have all ewu notifications on.
I didn't get it either 😐 @@cam-eltow
This one's old.
Dude keeps acting like there was a discussion, but it sounds like the entire discussion was his own evil monologue.
The way he talks while describing the event with every detail, like it’s a normal conversation… Chilling.
7:22 ..."I've got too much going on" -- THAT'S his reservation about keeping a slave chained in his basement?! Just too busy?!! Guy couldn't hide his true self.
I did delivery in Michigan and two other states in the 80’s. Those days are full of dead kids and adults. I’ve seen things. I’ve felt things. I am alive because I trusted my intuition and got gone fast.
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Those cops can't sit any further away from this vegetable. lolll
Imagine telling someone you killed Kevin Bacon, who would believe that
He won a Saturn award for Tremors!
Kev's too busy doing the phone ads.
@@MrJbooker33footloose ,, footloose, everybody cut footloose, kick off your Sunday shoes 😅
really, it was not a man with the same name, but the ACTUAL Kevin Bacon? I kept on telling myself that there is no way that the hollywood STAR Kevin Bacon would have died(been brutally murdered) in such a fashion. I have not seen Footlose, but I doubt the guy deserved what happened to him(star or not)
@@Kristopher_Loganit was not the actor
I don't believe the ex and the husband didn't think he could do this; they had to be aware of what was in the basement.
A wife and four kids? Yikes!
Born and raised and still living in Swartz Creek. As well as Gaines, the farm town so to speak, that’s a part of Swartz Creek school districts. This was so awful. Just awful. Please everyone, if you’re going to meet someone new for any type of companionship, please be safe. Please let someone you trust who can be available if you need help, know where you’re going and what time and when you plan to be back. Check in with them every so often and have a safe word if you need help so you can text it to them or call. I know this isn’t always going to help but do what you can to take some preventative measures to protect yourself and anything else you can think of. Stay safe everyone ❤
Also born and raised there and lived in Gaines my last years there before moving away for college. Have always loved the town and its people and I remember how crazy this was, especially being in high school at the time. Love you message! In fact, stay safe!
Male or female,younger or older,
Yes! 💯💯💯 BE SSFE!
I remember you - I graduated from Creek in ‘09. It blew my mind when I read the news about Kevin. It’s the last area I would have expected this to happen.
Thank you to my fellow Dragons as well as everyone who has given sentiments and positive replies to my comment on such a sad case. There are too many cases where looking for companionship leads to awful events such as this. I hope and pray his legacy is providing caution and saving lives and not just his death itself. Though I wish this never had happened to him or anyone. Be sure not only to protect yourselves but to spread the word on safety and make yourself available for those you love if you know they’re meeting someone new for any reason be it companionship or a facebook market sale etc. Have a plan if they need help and be ready in case. God bless you all in safety!
The husband knew something was up and deleted his messages.
I guess you didn't watch the video to the end.
Thank you EWU for all the videos.This one was so hard to watch. I felt sick as that monster was describing everything. I'm old now, but have always been afraid I would be locked up in a cellar. I'm afraid to walk down my street in case I get dragged in a car. Men tried when I was young and it has left me frightened.
i can’t, it always surprises me the evil that lives among us..
😲 Seriously?!?
a.. among us?
most privileged people live in a bubble... welcome to the real world
Evil will always be out there.
i know what you mean, it’s absolutely wild to think any house you drive or walk by could have such evil inside it.
the person in line in front you buying groceries could be the most evil creature and you’d generally have no clue.
The irony "Tell mom I'm sleeping" 😮
7:18
Do these officers usually expect a potential criminal, especially one accused of essentially kidnapping, sexual assault at a minimum, to really admit to being guilty of such crime? I guarantee they do not. The fact that they weren't so comfortable with homosexuality likely played a huge role into their pathetic "investigation" which included asking the suspect if he's actually guilty. Funny had they were anywhere near as thorough as they were the second time and did what was necessary to gain access to the home for a quick walk-through, whether by the home owners permission or via search warrant, WHATEVER that man would more likely than not still been alive.
Literally this. It pisses me off so fkn much, and it’s really fkn sad.
He tacitly admitted it with the victim who escaped. First he had no explanation (and was asked for none!) why the guy abandoned his own clothes and possessions and ran terrified, near naked, barefoot down the road. Then he waffled on about it being to steal his “most expensive piece of leather”. And then he blurted out, “I took my eye completely off him.”
That statement should have been a giant red flag and a klaxon to a police officer.
The way that those cops handled that man was just so cold bro was a victim
Totally agree. I couldn’t believe they were basically saying “you can press charges but there’s really no point” like wtf???
@@shannontimoney5901 No you are wrong. They asked if he wanted to press charges, He said no and that is when they said well the investigation wont go anywhere because if he's not pressing charges then there's no point us investigating. Stop trying to blame police, if the victim doesn't want to press charges and he's not been physically harmed then there is nothing they can do.
@@AussieTracy Even better, they go see the guy and start providing him excuses, the officer being the one to venture that this was "all role-playing stuff" because he clearly heard it was a sexual quarrel and decided it wasn't worth his time. Not sure that I agree considering what actually appears to have been happening. But right, perfect police job here. Aces.
Cops here remind me of the way they were in the Dahmer case, there's literally naked boys and men running from a house on the regular and they're just like " these crazy gays" 👀 while dude is cooking brains upstairs
@@AussieTracy they were totally callous and uncaring of what he had just went through. And on top of that they then went to the accused abductor and handed him a bunch of excuses to use lol you’re gonna tell me that’s good police work?
If meth isn't involved I'd be flabbergasted. That's usually how these situations start.
TThis guy has four children???😳
I just started watching....omg I hope he has no contact or custody of them...
i was living in owosso MI when this happened, about 10 miles away from the crime scene. it was a harrowing story to follow. but still, i've waited a long time for EWU to cover it. you guys make the best videos.
To think this was happening while you were driving so near going to and from home just living life…. It’s a weird world. 👀