Hungary didn't clap anything, germany just invaded trough hungary territory which temporarily gave them the control of occupied regions. Hence why germany got everything, they got alot more war score
@@The-future-is-in-the-past even if you count austria and alsace lorraine as german, czechia is more polish than german, and its not about german territories. Austria is not the same as germany and France took alsace lorraine in ww1 so it doesnt make sense that they leave germany with that land
btw 1.15.1 is random when timelapsed, most of the time on historical on Soviets and Allies will win and D-Day will historically happen but there you had a slight chance which is small, that Axis pulls out a victory and practically forms TNO universe. (most of the time doesnt happen).
Yea no. I have over 1500 hours and i haven't gotten a historical game once. Its always either a soviet steamroller, an allied steamroller or a stalemate.
My games always start historical until the Soviet invasion. When that happens, the soviet's get absolutely destroyed, but they hold on to Stalingrad and Moscow most of the time. The soviet's are unable to push back, so the allies just naval invade France or sometimes the Netherlands to win the war.
Played historical iron man as the U.S. and the Germanys steamrolled to just before the Ural Mountains and then it was a stalemate. The fine strategist I am, I declared on the Soviets and knocked both out. 510 divisions by 1944. Played it safe, but swarmed the Germans. U.K. On iron man I just stockpiled fights and by 1940 France was still going and both German and Italian air forces were >200 planes. Still took until 1942 to push Germany back and cap them and Italy.
@ravg32 because they aimed for a much more realistic germany, yeah it was faster but the events happened in the wrong dates. u can see new germany invading poland almost exactly on the 1st of september 1939, while the old one did it in mid summer if im correct
One side suffered *far* worse. More Soviet civilians were killed than Axis soldiers. Don't equate the two, it's a massive disservice to the absolute horror unleashed by the Axis in WW2.
If I had a nickel for every game I've either played or seen where the Gotterdamerung Axis win by simply walking over the Soviets and refusing to be naval invaded while also randomly just walking into Egypt really early on, I'd have like 4 nickels. Which isn't a lot but it's increasing faster than I'd like considering I really don't like playing fascist countries. Hopefully next dlc is a full revamp for the Commonwealth plus or minus some touch ups for the UK and USA if needed and maybe something like a new French Indochina or Egypt colonial nation. Just anything to make up for the fact that the Axis have basically just gotten buff after buff with the dlcs with the only buffs to the Allies being the South American nations getting good buffs(if they even join), Ethiopia being a constant thorn for Italy, and some minor equipment drain in extra resistance options or being slightly hard to capitulate(made up for by the fact that all the reworked allied nations have events that either automatically surrender them or make it much more likely for them to surrender) while the Axis got an Italy and Germany rework with a lot of strong buffs, extra factories and equipment from all the allied minor focus trees, Hungary got a lot stronger, the only major nerfs they got were having MEFO bills sometimes work as intended and crash the German economy(at least when the ai/player goes for that path which historical does), Finland often dips which whoopdedoo Germany's taking Leningrad 90% of games anyways, and notably Italy is much easier to explode but again that requires naval invasions to hold and even on freaking Sicily they never seem to do. Now it hasn't stopped me from having fun and there is confirmation bias in my judgement since I am almost always an Allies and especially Comintern player, but it feels like the player has to carry a lot of weight to beat the Germans or else the Germans always win. The Allies really need strong non-Europe closers like the Commonwealth to rebuild and reassert control after the Germans take Europe. Sorry for the rant, it was a fun video and a good way to compare the two versions, I just have increasing trauma about Gotterdamerung Germany ruining all of my less optimized silliness because I didn't end up playing Austria and delaying Anschluss by 2 years.
and to think I jumped into this in 2020 lol my how its changed in my four years, cant imagine how OGs feel. I do like the old spanish civil war more tho
The Soviet tree still leaves a lot to be desired. No lend lease, pretty weak industry tree that hurts you in certain ways, a military branch that’s way too large and has too many requirements. You have to devote a 3rd of your time doing purge focuses. On top of which Germany just gets an insane amount of free industry from conquering Europe, they end up having too many men, and too much equipment compared with historical Germany. The Soviets are also really bad at making templates, and the game horribly simulates the evacuation of industry that the Soviets undertook in our timeline. Soviets end up losing like 1/2 to 2/3rd of their industry by the end of the 2nd or 3rd push, and just can’t recover.
@@deadlyknights1119also Finland is so weak, no German division fights in Finland, and Moscow Armistice is signed in a few months months after the beginning of Barbarossa. This is lame.
Lack of provinces and bad debuffs you have to focus on the entire game to get rid of don’t make the soviets a fun experience in hoi4. Been playing since the game came out and the issues remain the same.
Is it just me or is the borders for occupied Poland slightly more accurate on the older version rather than the newer version. Like the southern border I mean. It’s actually got the weird curves and pointed sections unlike the current states.
The soviets AI always throws in my games post gotterdammerung it feels like german ai was made way better (which it was obviously) instead of just grinding down all its manpower like it used to while the soviet ai didnt get any major improvements
March of the Defenders of Moscow. I think this is the enhanced version of the recorded version by the Red Army Choir in the 1960's by removing all the old popping sounds.
@@San4eL0 там надо мод на эксперт ИИ ставить. Эта контора никогда не починят игру, им нужно выпустить 1000+ dlc с рандом фокусами и скинами к концу года🥶
@worldwidewonders681 Before the newest two updates it was a roughly 50/50 chance that the axis would win or lose without player intervention. Now it’s almost always axis curb stomping everyone no matter what unless the player gets involved.
hungary randomly clapping the soviets during endsieg is crazy
Historically accurate
And they get nothing in the treaty
@@Lazy894like always:D
Hungary didn't clap anything, germany just invaded trough hungary territory which temporarily gave them the control of occupied regions. Hence why germany got everything, they got alot more war score
@@tru_0afacts lmao they don’t know how it worke
Finland being occupied by Italy is the most HOI4 thing i have ever seen in my life
It’s better than Australia occupying Libya lmao
Germany on 1.5: *Loose*
The Allies: let him keep Austria, Czechia and Alsace-Lorraine :)
France: reeeeeee
And also ukraine is still a puppet of germany
Those are german territories
@@The-future-is-in-the-past even if you count austria and alsace lorraine as german, czechia is more polish than german, and its not about german territories. Austria is not the same as germany and France took alsace lorraine in ww1 so it doesnt make sense that they leave germany with that land
@@DreykanoAustrians are ethnic Germans. They where just left out of the German Empire as Prussia and Austria fought over leadership.
btw 1.15.1 is random when timelapsed, most of the time on historical on Soviets and Allies will win and D-Day will historically happen
but there you had a slight chance which is small, that Axis pulls out a victory and practically forms TNO universe. (most of the time doesnt happen).
Yea no. I have over 1500 hours and i haven't gotten a historical game once. Its always either a soviet steamroller, an allied steamroller or a stalemate.
Так точно! @@Ntinos7971
My games always start historical until the Soviet invasion. When that happens, the soviet's get absolutely destroyed, but they hold on to Stalingrad and Moscow most of the time. The soviet's are unable to push back, so the allies just naval invade France or sometimes the Netherlands to win the war.
Played historical iron man as the U.S. and the Germanys steamrolled to just before the Ural Mountains and then it was a stalemate. The fine strategist I am, I declared on the Soviets and knocked both out. 510 divisions by 1944. Played it safe, but swarmed the Germans.
U.K. On iron man I just stockpiled fights and by 1940 France was still going and both German and Italian air forces were >200 planes. Still took until 1942 to push Germany back and cap them and Italy.
that seems excessive i rolled the germans with 48 amtrack divisions with 4k fighters and 1k cas@official_commanderhale965
Most of us looked at the new version and forgot what was being played on left side
Why is no one talking about Australia in Libya 😭
Wasn’t there besieged Australians in Libya that never gave up and fought back
I mean it happened irl too
Fr a colony having their own colony
Achieving Aunchluss on Austria seems considerably harder now considering that the focuses before it are very short
I still do it at the same time in 1937
@ is that with producing actual infantry divisions?
@@reflectivegaming9979no, why would you, getting austria 2 years earlier is judt great
@@AustrianGuru don’t make them go back to having needed an actual manpower and equipment requirement.
It's harder, before update you could do anshluss in like 200 days
1.5.4 Germany must've found their ghost divisions in October 1945 wtf. That clap back.
But for real, both sides had a truly gruesome death war.
Also why is older Germany slightly faster
@ravg32 because they aimed for a much more realistic germany, yeah it was faster but the events happened in the wrong dates. u can see new germany invading poland almost exactly on the 1st of september 1939, while the old one did it in mid summer if im correct
One side suffered *far* worse. More Soviet civilians were killed than Axis soldiers.
Don't equate the two, it's a massive disservice to the absolute horror unleashed by the Axis in WW2.
Old hoi4 naval battle animations were Fun to see
Real ones remember the game before cornflakes
What is song name
The first one
@@polandmapping371
Гимн защитников Москвы
Anthem of the defenders of Moscow
@@Riatnes thanks
context?
Estonia just chilling
It’s really hard to realize that we used to play old HoI4 and think it was good seeing current HoI4
Damn i remember man the guns coming into the game
Was it 1.8? I started in those times
It was in 1.5
8:00 HOW IS GERMANY IN IRELAND 😭
Welcome to HOI4
@ lol
I didn't see it?
7:32 WHY IS ITALY IN FINLAND
It is FinalLy happening !
Italand
Fintaly
Not sure which I like more
@ hm, personally I’d pick Finland-italy
5:05 why australia on 1.5.4
"The Germany Bismarck Wanted."
If I had a nickel for every game I've either played or seen where the Gotterdamerung Axis win by simply walking over the Soviets and refusing to be naval invaded while also randomly just walking into Egypt really early on, I'd have like 4 nickels. Which isn't a lot but it's increasing faster than I'd like considering I really don't like playing fascist countries. Hopefully next dlc is a full revamp for the Commonwealth plus or minus some touch ups for the UK and USA if needed and maybe something like a new French Indochina or Egypt colonial nation. Just anything to make up for the fact that the Axis have basically just gotten buff after buff with the dlcs with the only buffs to the Allies being the South American nations getting good buffs(if they even join), Ethiopia being a constant thorn for Italy, and some minor equipment drain in extra resistance options or being slightly hard to capitulate(made up for by the fact that all the reworked allied nations have events that either automatically surrender them or make it much more likely for them to surrender) while the Axis got an Italy and Germany rework with a lot of strong buffs, extra factories and equipment from all the allied minor focus trees, Hungary got a lot stronger, the only major nerfs they got were having MEFO bills sometimes work as intended and crash the German economy(at least when the ai/player goes for that path which historical does), Finland often dips which whoopdedoo Germany's taking Leningrad 90% of games anyways, and notably Italy is much easier to explode but again that requires naval invasions to hold and even on freaking Sicily they never seem to do. Now it hasn't stopped me from having fun and there is confirmation bias in my judgement since I am almost always an Allies and especially Comintern player, but it feels like the player has to carry a lot of weight to beat the Germans or else the Germans always win. The Allies really need strong non-Europe closers like the Commonwealth to rebuild and reassert control after the Germans take Europe.
Sorry for the rant, it was a fun video and a good way to compare the two versions, I just have increasing trauma about Gotterdamerung Germany ruining all of my less optimized silliness because I didn't end up playing Austria and delaying Anschluss by 2 years.
Imagine Italy saving Barbarossa by being useful and somehow naval invading Finland 😂
as I see it, Hungary really took Greater Hungary very seriously :D
I imagined the Hungarian veteran eating bread, onions and sausage in Moscow
In 1.15.1 the Axis won, interesting...
Потому что не хотят чинить ИИ
TNO ahh universe
@@LastDay-m6s Пароходы - контора солнышек
@@diskoo-be4ii Черных)
@@LastDay-m6sno, because it's developers' dream.
these are both wrong in very weird, different ways
True
Imagine if the AI ever learns how to build logistics.
Germany would never lose ever again.
Australian Libya goes crazy
4:33 Austrialia decided to say greetings in Libya
Hungry carried the axis
0:25 the only soviet music i like...
Edit: Wth i just learned with this video im still playing 1.5.4
who cares
Bro finland got violated 😂
Yeah i think that they need a buff
and to think I jumped into this in 2020 lol my how its changed in my four years, cant imagine how OGs feel. I do like the old spanish civil war more tho
Australian Libya is crazy
Soviets was much stronger in real ww2. Stalin AI in hoi fucking sucks and idk why
The Soviet tree still leaves a lot to be desired.
No lend lease, pretty weak industry tree that hurts you in certain ways, a military branch that’s way too large and has too many requirements. You have to devote a 3rd of your time doing purge focuses. On top of which Germany just gets an insane amount of free industry from conquering Europe, they end up having too many men, and too much equipment compared with historical Germany.
The Soviets are also really bad at making templates, and the game horribly simulates the evacuation of industry that the Soviets undertook in our timeline. Soviets end up losing like 1/2 to 2/3rd of their industry by the end of the 2nd or 3rd push, and just can’t recover.
@@deadlyknights1119also Finland is so weak, no German division fights in Finland, and Moscow Armistice is signed in a few months months after the beginning of Barbarossa. This is lame.
Lack of provinces and bad debuffs you have to focus on the entire game to get rid of don’t make the soviets a fun experience in hoi4. Been playing since the game came out and the issues remain the same.
No casualties screen? Are you kidding
The Australian Libya 5:06
Austrlia- I will follow in my dad's footsteps bye libya
Italy winning North Africa in both is hilarious
Old: ENDSIEG GAMEPLAY New: WRRF lore:
OP strengthened Germany for sure
Is it just me or is the borders for occupied Poland slightly more accurate on the older version rather than the newer version. Like the southern border I mean. It’s actually got the weird curves and pointed sections unlike the current states.
What is this Song or thing name?
I remember when ai germany didnt make it past france that was epic
The soviets AI always throws in my games post gotterdammerung it feels like german ai was made way better (which it was obviously) instead of just grinding down all its manpower like it used to while the soviet ai didnt get any major improvements
Hungary literally carry the whole axis in 1944😂
What is the name of the mod? Where are the divisions like flags
timelapse counter
what is the song called in the beginning
March of the Defenders of Moscow. I think this is the enhanced version of the recorded version by the Red Army Choir in the 1960's by removing all the old popping sounds.
both of them are realistic
sooo..no one is gonna notice australian lybia in 1.5.4?
An ahistorical comparison would be interesting.
remmember the days when there would sometimes be communist spain?
Me watching Italy invade Finlandd like wtf
Bro poor soviets, just got Obliterated in both games
AI in the Soviet Union is the stupidest AI in the game, I think.
is it crazy that i can’t tell which is which? like genuinely which one is which
nvm got further in and knew
hey how do i deploy planes and ships?
Planes you click on any airport and theres a little button with a plane and a plus sign. Navy idk ive never touched it
@Steenern hmm i think its for airwings?
@@moroccan_dude673 yeah you deploy a airwing, its a set of planes
What mod did you use to make the troop flags appear on the map?
It’s actually the command FOW if I’m remembering correctly. It will disable fog of war and show every single country’s troops all at once.
How do time lapse?
you use console commands to spectate instead of playing, just google for all the console commands for hoi4
Which Mod are you use?
Germany becoming kazakhstan
why did australia annex libya
The Soviet Union was much stronger in real life, even capable of carrying the entire Eastern Front and much of the Second World War.
W new game version
У меня германия ели до москвы доходит, если повезет
У меня наоборот, советов легко сношу, а союзников никак
@Kalich_iopani У меня в смысле бот не доходит до Москвы. Или. ты это имел, но Т9 решит, что не?
@@catnorm1708 когда уже для советов завезут норм ии?
@@San4eL0 Так норм не? У меня герма проигрывает совку
@@San4eL0 там надо мод на эксперт ИИ ставить. Эта контора никогда не починят игру, им нужно выпустить 1000+ dlc с рандом фокусами и скинами к концу года🥶
Switzerland is in war with germany???(Left)
Timelapse 1.15?
version 1.15 of the game
Wtf is blue Romania at11:00
Communist Revolution
Good
Are you a bot?
@@bluetophatanimations i hope so, hes commented good on my videos like 700 times over the last few years
HOW GERMANY TAKE USSR💀
HOW DID ITLAY GET FINLAND☠️☠️☠️
first song name?
march of the defenders
За 9 лет, не смогли починить бота на советском союзе 🙄
Before the last 2 dlcs it was perfect. The south america dlc and the New dlc fucked it all up
What happened ?
I don't know why they released South American DLC instead of making new Japanese, Romanian, Chinese focus trees. They are so boring and useless.
Supply fucked the game.
@worldwidewonders681
Before the newest two updates it was a roughly 50/50 chance that the axis would win or lose without player intervention. Now it’s almost always axis curb stomping everyone no matter what unless the player gets involved.
wooooowwwwwwwwwwwwww
Look what they do to my boy
wow, the ai is even worse in 1.15. better ai my ass
In a game vs ai germany should never be able to beat both the soviets and the allies