DeWalt 60V 20 Inch Battery Chainsaw Vs Stihl Farm Boss (MS271) 50cc Gas Chainsaw!
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- Опубликовано: 29 окт 2022
- Hey everyone, in this video we are taking a look at the DeWalt 60v 20inch battery chainsaw vs the Stihl Farm Boss MS271 gas chainsaw. I am going to do some timed cuts to see which one is faster and also give my thoughts on the power and torque. This is going to be a good comparison as both saws weigh almost the same and have the same bar length. DeWalt makes their claims against a 50cc gas and I put it to the test to see if they hold true.
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Pretty solid comparison here man. I think the amount of torque these electric saws put out is absolutely nuts. I would like a bit more chain speed for limbing and back cuts if its a truly a pro saw like they market it… now, to get my hands on one.
I have two gas saws that I haven't started in 2 1/2 years other than to get it ready to take out with me. I also bring along a 12" dewalt 20V saw as "back up". I end up using just the dewalt and never take the gas saw out the case. The big saws are great for felling bigger trees and are considerably faster and you can go as long as you have gas and oil. Fortunately, all my needs lately have been removing trees from fences, clearing brush etc. My son and his friend tried it out a couple of weeks ago and now they both have them on their short list to buy.
They definitely serve a good purpose especially if your not just sawing all day, I find them a lot more convenient for those simple jobs like cutting a tree out of the trial etc.
Interesting comparison. Good video. I’ve got the Dewalt 12” that is nice for few small branches but gas powered for bigger/more cuts IMO.
Just shows you though that they are gonna just get better ... I guess the downside is you carnt really tune the battery. But you can the gas .. .. still I love battery stuff less stress instantly ready to go 😊
DeWalt 60V or Stihl MS271 both are very good and absolutely sufficient machines for home use, but I prefer battery saws. Thank you for comparison.
What a great video! I have both but even when storing my gas Husky with canned Husky gas, it gives me fits when I don't use it for a year or two. My two Dewalt saws run every time, no matter what. Very impressed how clear and perfect your audio is with that wind too!
Thanks for watching!
I also have both saws. I like the Dewalt, but it's not for cutting much wood.
The battery overheats before it runs out of juice. So I have to switch batteries back and forth. Due to the overheating it would be better to have two 9ah batteries instead of one 15ah.
When running the Dewalt you feel it would benefit from a chain with a larger pitch size.
I was impressed with mine who needs all that starting not starting flooding noise fumes just need a few batteries 3000w motor on the 50cm version dewalt
We got a Dewalt 20v because my wife had trouble getting her MS170 started when it's cold. It's easy for her once it's warmed up but not when cold.
We changed out the consumer grade safety chain it came with for a narrow kerf full chisel and that saw really perked up.
The other advantage is that after winterizing (southern New Hampshire) our saws, the battery saw is so much handier to pull out to clear branches and small tree from the road.
We are a committed Dewalt family so we have plenty of batteries ready to go.
If I ever need a new saw I will be getting a Dewalt 60v
Thanks for the video.
Yeah I’ve been planning on trying a full chisel but some folks have said it hits the guard, I don’t see how as long as you still use the LP
Great idea! What replacement chain did you buy? I found a few and just wanted to make sure they would fit. I am not seeing the chain size and only the dewalt replacement chain numbers. I'd rather not use the dewalt replacement chain if possible
@@darin5294 For the 20v Dewalt saw with a 12" bar we used a Archer FC-D-043-45DL.
That's a narrow kerf Full Chisel chain 45 drive links.
We also put full chisels on the MS170 (also narrow kerf) and our Husqvarna 455 Ranchers. They make the chips fly.
For the 60v Dewalt, you need a 3/8" .050" LP chain, which is readily available in full chisel. You just need to figure out the number of links, which you can count if it comes to that.
Please don't take my word for it and do your own research as I'm not an expert, it is very easy to make a mistake and I don't want to mislead anyone.
@@realbartlett8882 I did do some research and hopefully ordered the correct one. I'll find out when It shows up in a few days. I won't hold it against you if I did in fact order the wrong one and then I'll just return and try again. lol Thank for your reply and the info.
@@realbartlett8882I've put full chisel chain on all 6 of my saws; from the 10" to the 24".
Fun review. Biggest point for most of us is that, of course if you use the DeWalt for 10 minutes and the Stihl for 10 minutes it's no longer a comparison of equals. With that kind of pressure the DeWalt will fade fast where the Stihl just keeps rocking. I considered electric but until they make one I can use for two hours electric is a homeowner tool and the gas is for professionals.
I agree the battery saws are great for intermittent use but for all day work I go for gas.
@@WilliamsonRidgehome owners will switch to electric because there is practically no maintenance. Gasoline saws are a pain to maintain.
The only thing keeping you from running a battery operated chainsaw all day is the cost of the batteries. Otherwise; they rock!
I have 5 acres of Eastern Oregon well cared/forested timber...(might take 1 or 2 trees a season) Since Im a Contractor already invested c in Dewalt i think its the better choice for me. Have an old mac that starts everytime if i need to run all day
Good solid comparison. Most people know that battery chainsaws aren't meant to replace a gas saw if you're cutting large amounts of wood. I don't have a lot of property or a lot of trees but I do use my saw every year. I switched to a battery saw about 5 years ago and haven't used my gas saw since and have no intention to ever do so again.
Yeah they really are a good option for the occasional user, but if you cutting everyday all day gas is still the way to go.
This
I'm a homeowner who needs a chainsaw every few years after a storm. Gas nowadays chews up fuel lines and carbs even with stabilizer. It seems every time I needed the saw it wouldn't start. Very frustrating. I love gas when it works.
I have the older dewalt 16 inch saw. Cut down a twenty inch tree last week. All the homeowner would need.
@@WilliamsonRidgeI did the same comparison as you & the dewalt chainsaw beat the farm boss by a mile.
I think Project Farm measured the chain speed for the electric saws so definitely check that out too. I think there was a big difference even among all of the electric models out there. Your audio was great, the mic worked really well.
Project Farm is awesome! Thanks for watching!
Project Farm is awesome, but I think he compared older DCM575 (with toolless tensioner/cover) which according to dewalt specs should have 15 m/s speed, shorter and slimmer bar of 16" and also different chain.
While this DCMCS575 has according to spec should have 20" wider bar (hopefully not that flimsy as old one), with 13.5 m/s speed. So this one is bigger, wider bar = mor drag, so motor is slower with bigger torque to handle that.
As a bonus to this one I see a proper old-fashioned tensioner (do not like those tool-less, have bad experience with those even from big brands) and teeth bar, longer bar, more power and torque..
@@TomSilver_42 He has done a couple of videos now comparing a lot more
models, I figure it always helps to see more options!
@@sloanNYC I was probably blind as I havent seen him comparing DCMCS575 , regardless I searched on his channel today. Might by my fault.
@@TomSilver_42 Oh, I wasn't trying to say he did, just that there are 2 or more videos and he compares A LOT of chainsaws. LOL
very interesting comparison
Have one of these saws and I think the big “issue” is the cost of the batteries. If you want to be able to use the saw for bucking up logs for an entire day, you’d likely need 3 of the 12/15AH Dewalt 60v batteries @ about $300-$350 each. My dad was using his 271 down in TN clearing some trees and was very impressed with my “little” battery saw
Yeah definitely would be a huge investment in batteries, some places don’t have much choice as they are outlawing small gas engines
I think the idea of dewalt tools and the battery expense is chances are you're not buying just one dewalt tool.
Typically if you buy one dewalt flexvolt device you're buying multiple so you can use the same batteries for whatever you need
The battery Dewalt in machines of 60V have has lower ahm than what it says on the sticker (in 20v tools it delivers all ahm) @60V~6amh=2ahm, 9ahm=3amh, 12ahm=4ahm & 15ahm=5ahm, saludos!
Stupid me! Battery prices are devastating! I spent over half a thousand dollars on an EGO 12ah battery for my CSX5000!
Goog info. Makes me glad I got an ms400 with 20in and 25 in light bars
DeWalt went all in on torque on these new saws, reducing the chain speed to only 13.5 m/s. That Farm Boss is probably around 25 m/s (based on its .325 pitch and 13000 RPM). That is why you can really lean on the DeWalt and why the Stihl feels "smoother" with little to no pressure. A lot of these electric/cordless saws have torque for days, but low chain speeds. Makes the cut feel rougher, and gives a lot of chatter on small branches. The one exception is the new cordless Stihl MSA300, that has gas like chain speed of 30 m/s.
great vids you are doing there, since you have tested the echo and the dewalt chainsaw, which one would you recommend? and why ; thanks
I think for just overall use the Echo would be my choice it’s a really good capable saw and at a lot better price point, I like the reach of the 20”bar on the Dewalt and it has plenty of power but is pricey.
thanx @@WilliamsonRidge
I like this comparison. From what I have researched, the dewalt runs at 15 m/s and the stihl runs at about 28 m/s. I have the 16" dewalt and really like it. I switched to an Oregon chain and it cuts a lot nicer than the dewalt one did
Yeah definitely a lot of difference in the chain speed
Stihl MS271 runs at 19,3 m/s.
I liked your comparison and you brought up some interesting points. These battery saws are perfect for their intended purpose which is occasional usage and storm cleanup. Calling the Dewalt a “pro grade” saw is a bit of a stretch though. I’m curious as to how it would perform against an actual “pro” gas 50cc saw. I’m not a fan of the Stihl and Husky homeowner saws like the 271.
I don’t think it would compare until they can start putting full size non low profile chains on them
@@WilliamsonRidgeI have a question that has been puzzling me since I've gotten back into chainsaws. Back in my earlier days; all I used was .404 full chisel. The only reason I knew there were smaller chains; is because I had a Stihl 020AVP.
Sorry for being long winded. Anyway; what is the difference between 3/8"lp and 3/8"; and why is 3/8" 'better'?
@@John-cj3ve 3/8 pitch has a taller tooth so it is more aggressive and takes a bigger bite, typically up to 7/32 file size or 5.5mm 3/8lp is a shorter tooth and typically less aggressive and take no larger then a 5/32 or 4.0mm file size, so in short it mainly how agressive and big of a bite the chain can take
If you could have added your echo 18 inch 56 volt to the test it would have been very helpful
I may do that
Very nice very nice Paul.. as always brother you come through with gold love you buddy keep up the good work
Thanks Gary!
Yesterday and today I was chopping trees down, and cutting the logs for firewood.
My chainsaw is a 45cc and it did struggle here and there. Ran out of fuel, all I had to do was mix the oil and fill the tank again. This was in the mountains, away from a power socket.
How useless would that DeWalt be in that situation! Mind you, as long as a petrol chainsaw has fuel, the power is always the same. The DeWalt suffers from a power drop as it drains the battery.
I'm a DeWalt converted, value for money hardly any other brand comes close, but I'll have a cheap petrol farm/forest equipment than any battery powered one.
I bought a battery powered trimmer, only to spend more money on a petrol one just over a year later. Glad I didn't buy an electric chainsaw, and although I hate two strokes, I'll have that chainsaw over any battery powered one.
For a professional, using that saw would mean a petrol generator would be needed. And extra expense and load to carry. Is just cheaper and intelligent to use petrol chainsaws in the first place.
Love em both. If im cutting all day stihl if i got a tree down and i dont wanna hear it or deal with fuel electric
Being a owner of a 271 and my father in law has a dewalt 20” I’m taking the 271 everyday. I went to cut a few trees up last summer for him and I was only able to make a few cuts in a roughly 16 inch oak before the battery overheated. 90-95 outside and a hot battery don’t mix well. My gas saw would have just kept on cutting.
This is a big issue with the electric saws. Noticed it myself the first day I was using my Dewalt (it was a stinking hot July day)
Question what size battery was you using? Reason i ask because that big dccs677 only supposed to run the 12ah and 15ah. It's recommended to use the bigger 15ah battery it gives it more torque.
I have 3 of the 15ah batteries if one gets to hot or the battery is low I just swap over to my other one.
@@truthisweareallgonnadie. For myself, I've been using the 12ah battery. Good point though, I should get a backup to swap to on hot days.
The first day I had my EGO CSX5000 that was my big surprise! I have two CS1800s; and they have NEVER overheated; even when cutting a 20" log!
When the big saw got that hot and shut off; I thought there was something wrong with it.
Impressive, very good job...tks👍🇧🇷
I'm staying the Homelite XL-12.
Nice vintage saw!
Good comparison test! The battery saw did seem to do pretty good. Definitely a slower rpm though. Take care!
Thanks for watching Ben!
do you still use your milwaukee lawn mower .. i have gotten one and love it
Oh yeah definitely, so far it’s been great, use it every week to mow my moms grass in town, even if it gets a bit high this mower goes right through it.
I have the DeWalt but it's really for limbing etc. Fine homeowner saw but if you need horsepower grab a gasser.
Would have been interesting if they both had both been tested with the same style and manufacture chain !
I agree but you can’t put the same chain on the DeWalt due to clearance issues
The Deeewalt...
Lol
Brushless electric motor produces 100% power at 1 RPM they don't have power curve when you load them down, they just pull more power unlike a gas engine where when you put more load on it the RPM drops below it's best power output RPM that leads to more power loss. This is why a Tesla can whip most high HP factory cars in the 1/4 mile. When they figure out how to get a battery to equal a tank of gas that will be the end of the gas engine.
I can only assume your real world experience is 0. RUclips university degree is not a real degree.😉
I have 20 yrs in the oil and gas industry. The last 3 in renewable energy. And it is a high possibility in california. Either way we still need oil to produce alot of the so called “green” goods. Its all a shitshow
@@rickh9507 Not completely there is an argument to make if it can remove engine exhaust. If an electric car last 10 years that’s lot of exhaust being removed. Have to admit lot of bad stuff coming from tailpipes. I’m not in favor of forcing EV on anyone I do support tax credits and subsidies. Oil and gas companies get that also have for many years. Lot of people claim lithium mining negates out the EV lack of engine exhaust. Oil refinery puts out massive amounts of pollutants. I grew up near Long Beach California I know what it smells like whatever that nasty smell is can’t be good for anyone.
Electric for for coal are oil and gas
Esse trator também é a bateria?
No it’s a diesel tractor
This was a good review
I would love to see how well the Dewalt runs using the stihl bar and chain
Yeah I may try to do that.
Tried to change the bar/chain to a more aggressive cut but you have to use a LP chain on these dewalt 60v saws. Anything not LP will eat at the plastic housing 🤦🏼♂️
@@mbarton36 seriously?!
Yes. I guess once the housing has been eaten you could continue using the more aggressive chain. Would love to see a third party create a new chain cover that allows for a taller/more aggressive chain
When you make your hand touch that starter cord THAT is when you SHOULD start the clock! Otherwise a big advantage of the battery saw is "thrown away". (Not considered)
I hope in the future you can turn down the audio track when you're running the saw because I have to turn down the audio on my phone and then when you start talking I have to turn the audio back up.
Thanks for the feedback
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As a saw user in a rural area the math doesn’t add up. MS-261 for $571 or so. The dewalt kit is about $699. Buy an additional 15AH battery to keep it going is another like $400. So if you really want to look price to performance then the MS-462 is about what the dewalt kit plus extra battery would be. Spoiler, the 462 is WAY faster and the 261 with .325 .050 chain beats it too.
I have the kobalt 80v gen 2 saw and it eats faster than that dewalt
No it don't watch project farm it's not close
Should have been an MS-261 being compared or a husky 550 MK2.
Not really a fair comparison with the DeWalt is 4 hp and the Stihl MS271 is 31/2 hp.The STIHL MS 261 C-M is 50 cc 4hp a few pounds lighter than the DeWalt and would eat it for breakfast. I have a DeWalt chainsaw, and it has a purpose but not cutting large amounts of firewood.
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Around $550 dollars
I just got one and I don't like the DeWalt with the 15ah
What don't you like about it?
What's the weight of each?
It’s at 1:43 in the video
why has everyone failed to mention the lack of chain availability for this model or dewalt? and by lack of availability i mean non existent availability.
I haven’t had to replace the chain yet because I sharpen it, but will definitely be looking into it, I have heard some folks replacing it with a nine LP chain
What is so unique about the Dewalt chain? I've replaced the chain on all six of my low profile saws with full chisel. Including my 20" one!
@@WilliamsonRidgeI think you meant 'non' instead of nine. Anyway; I've heard/read that 3/8" and 3/8"LP weren't interchangeable; that the sprockets were different.
However; that's second hand; I have never tried it.
Better for the environment and ears too. Recharge with your solar system. No more gas/oil mix.
You do realize mining lithium is B-a-d for the environment, and charging those batteries isn't free either.
Stihl Farm Boss lost. I can't pull start any Stihl gas chainsaw.
That does make these battery saws very easy to work with and they still perform very well.
It’s awful having to start them in the cold. Just the everyday maintenance is horrible on a gas saw.
Ah the vibrant days of youth; when I used to 'throw start' my 42" Stihl 075. Granted I am 6'4" and 230lbs.
I watched loads of videos about dewalt yhey are junk I got one and within a month the tentioner stripped its threads there is a massive design fault with them on the tentioner on all models with 2 side nuts not happy if I take it bk yo screw fix they said it will get sent bk to dewalt with all the rest of them 100rds uou might not get it nk gor months or a decision so I chose to track down parts and do a mod to fix the problem
Heard someone point out that the battery heats up. Well so does an engine that uses gas.
Well different are little to none but difference between gas and battery is work load and impact. Gas will have a longer run time with less tops. Yet gas refueling will take a short time. Batteries can be changed in seconds and no worry on spilling. However more batteries is more price.
Over all the biggest differences is you can't put gas in an electric drill or other power tools and run them. You also can't run a gas pressure washer with batteries. Yet there is battery operated pressure washers. In the end there is a professional reason to use gas and a professional reason for battery. You can convince customers that if they prefer "the more eco friendly" option doubling your business. Which may more many not be 100% true. However I bet you can charge a bit more for the battery option because of needing multiple batteries.
Another review that doesnt answer the BIGGEST QUESTION OF ALL. --- how long will the battery last? In your case a tank of fuel last x minutes, and a battery last X MINUTES....
That’s not what this video was about
@@WilliamsonRidge your LAZY and your review sucks donkey.
ANY battery tool, the main comparison is how long does it last. That's MORE important than how fast it cuts.
You also didn't start with 2 BRAND new chains, your methods are sloppy, And inaccurate. 100% waist of your time and everybody who watches your video.
Too many factors go into how long the battery will last.
Thanks for your input, you see how important I thought it was by how quickly I got back to you, once again the battery life was not what this video was about if you can do better you buy the products with your own money and make better videos so people like you can comment on them and let you know how good you did
Gas for pros. Battery for homeowners.
DeWalt chain sucks... Want to change the sprocket to get a better chain on it and see.
15ah battery is much better than smaller batteries as well.
Obviously gas is still king. Batteries for city dwelling and gas for country living. Why does the government feel the need to mandate every aspect of our lives. Think about all the hard working landscapers that won't be able to turn over their work as fast.
I disagree with your testing! I don't think you pushed the Dewalt to it's maximum capability.
Thanks for the feedback
The more I watch your videos; the more I look for them. I really enjoy your content.
Everyone praising the comparison in the comments likely don't own chainsaws or don't know how to use them.
Sorry but that test is worthless without knowing that both chains are new out of the box and from the same company.
The best chainsaw in the world with a bad chain will lose to the worst chainsaw in the world with a good chain.
The gas saw will also last for many years. That cheap Chinese battery saw will be thrown away in two yrs. Not to mention, there's nothing worse for the environment than batteries, and the way things are going, the landfills will be full of them.