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THIS was the first time we saw TNG Jean-Luc Picard since All Good Things! He’s stoic but not emotionless.
He also doesn't roll over and shit on himself when confronted with a strong wahmen. Instead it respects both characters and isn't afraid to have him use his intellect and have a little pride and bite.
Patrick Stewart is 82 and he can still bring it. The anguish he delivers is so real. You feel a man at the end of his life realizing he was robbed of one thing he wishes he had.
Oh yes. This is one of the best scenes Star Trek: Picard has given us so far
The acting in this scene is really good. Picard chose his career over everything else including having a family as he lead a very dangerous life. That`s the price you pay if you choose a career over having a family. You can`t have both at the same time. He made his intentions very clear to Beverley that he wasn`t a family man and that his career came before anything else.
@Lepol Hart bullshit. She was wrong, period. Another fine example of how we don't hold our women accountable for their actions. They will never reach their full potential if we keep it up.
@@mwfmtnman I agree that women should be held accountable for their actions and Beverley paid the price as well in not telling Picard about his son as her son grew up without a father. It`s the woman that gets to decide at the end of the day who to have children with and if she does fall pregnant whether or not to bring that child up with the father as the woman carries the child and gives birth then raises the child as women are the nurturers. Picard lead a very dangerous life and if it had been known he had a son, then his son`s life would have been in danger as well. Beverley done the right thing to protect her son which was her priority not to protect the interests of the father of her child.
@@lepolhart3242 disagree.
Gates McFadden kills it in this scene. I wish the writers of TNG had given her more to do in the series, she is a vastly underrated and under-utilized actress
TNG did her a disservice. It's clear from this that she's a great actress. This was superb work.
She had to come back this the best she's ever been.
I agree. Her acting was amazing
She is wonderful. How I have missed this cast.
I always sensed the chemistry between these two on TNG, and finding myself rooting for them.
Cool fact - Gates McFadden worked as a choreographer for Jim Henson - her credits include Labyrinth. She taught David Bowie and Jennifer Connelly how to Waltz.
Really? Way to go Dr crusher.
Well she is the “Dancing Doctor” 😅
@@jasongradyphstiger6179when she is working in choreography, she uses her first name of Cheryl for her credits. Gates is her middle name and is used for her acting credits. There are some per-release articles and media from 1987 that list her as “Cheryl
McFadden as ‘Dr Crusher”.
@@metropodgreat history, and probably wise of her to use the two names
I loved the Muppets
This scene alone shows how powerful of an actress she really is. Tormented, torn, protector, mother, widow, and forgotten love. She deserves an Emmy nod.
Forgotten love? Hardly. Picard has been wondering for a long time what he did wrong by this point.
@@Ares99999yes, forgotten love. You can know someone but after a long time, the love changes and can fade from what it was before.
This scene has a major impact. The way the two actors play, especially Gates, left me speechless. I rewatched the scene several times. She is an extraordinary actress. This scene alone would deserve an award
Agreed, also Patrick Stewart was fantastic, that look on his face said a thousand words and conveyed his anger, shock & disappointment all in one go. If looks could kill.
Are you people serious? She can barely even have a facial expression with whatever she did to her face.
Chill with the awards. Every youtube video, its ".Lets give X woman a reward.." At this point it means nothing.
@@LuisRodz87 If she didn't do that to her face, she would not be there and you would not see her at all. That's not her fault. That it ruins her acting is also not true.
Wow, what a scene. That should have had a very lofty award.
The way Picard says, "I didn't...I didn't know." You can look in his eyes and feel the hurt. Also I feel like some of Patrick Stewart is coming to light in this scene about his own relationship with his own father and how he learned that his father actually had PTSD. For so many years he hated his father because he saw him abuse his mother but what he learned years later was they were episodes of PTSD. After so many years he was able to come to terms with his father and see the pain he was fighting and here it feels like he realizes that now.
Total nonsense. He is an actor.
Did anyone...ANYONE...expect to get characters and dialogue this well written again in Star Trek in our lifetime?
I was born the day the 2nd season of the original series premiered. I quit trying to predict what Star Trek will do decades ago. I enjoy what happens as long as I can.
That’s what happens when Brannon Braga isn’t writing the scripts.
Only with this cast I did, because they had all the power this time around.
Not only the dialogue, but the pauses, that are just pregnant with raw emotion. Easily one of the most powerful scenes I’ve ever watched on Star Trek.
This wasn't well written...
Something I thought about when watching this was how lucky these two were to have known and trusted each other for so long to do a scene that feels so real and vulnerable. This really felt like two people having a conversation, realizing the choices and the regrets they have to face 20 years later. I don't think you could have had that with actors who had only first met and were doing this kind of thing just as a job.
Total nonsense. They arw actors and do what they are told for money.
@@Ein_Kunde_don't be silly
It toke almost 35 years for Gates McFadden to deliver amazing dialoge. (NOT her falt of course ). This is what happens when great writing and great acting meet. Bravo!
took, not toke
@@SR-iy4gg Thank you.
Imagine that, good writing leads to great performances. If only this show could've been this 2 seasons ago.
Are the first 2 seasons that bad?
@@felixcolon599 yes.
@@felixcolon599 yes.
@@felixcolon599 I don't think they're that bad.
@@RyanSellman1 Compared to the CW, sure
I see a lot of people here making comparisons to wrath of Khan, and to a degree they are right. However, I will say this: Carol Marcus specifically told Kirk to not be a part of David’s life. Kirk at least knew that he had a child, but he knew to respect Carol’s wishes as his mother. Here, Picard never got that choice.
Both men missed out on being a father, but at least Kirk was aware of it and had closure. Picard didn’t get any of that, making this all the more tragic.
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Typical woman apparently. Even 350 years in the future, they still insist on not telling the father the truth.
Making decisions from a place of fear is always going to come out worse.
This was great acting, great writing, and great communication. I love it when people talk about their problems like adults and skip the angst drama, no matter who is right/ wrong. Just talk it out.
Not always. Ignoring fear is just another extreme.
People don't change that much. She was right.
@@littlebitofhope1489 in hindsight to the rest of the episode she screwed Jack and Picard up with her action
@@chuchulainn9275 Nobody said to ignore it, they said the CONFRONT it.
@@littlebitofhope1489 No she wasn't. She fucked up big time.
It really hits home that scene from Star Trek: Generations when Picard learns his brother and nephew had died. Picard had frequently dropped hints that there were times he regretted not having a family but was secure in the belief that the Picards would continue through his nephew Renee. When he lost them, he agonized over the realization that there would be no more Picards. Can understand his anger/shock over learning he has a son.
This is not Picard but a robot.
@@johnpglackin345 Picard in a synthetic android body that allows him to still feel motions the same as an ordinary human being.
@@danielhaire6677 an artificial being cannot feel emotions.
@@johnpglackin345 Why? In TNG, the scientist who invented the android developed a means for them to have emotions a long way back in the series. Why wouldn't a more advanced body with an individual's mind transferred to it have issues with feelings?
@@danielhaire6677 because it's unrealistic. And you can't transfer someone's soul into a robot. It's perversion.
That long pause at the start was really loud. Had heard about this scene, now watching it , I am astounded at the talents. Amazing.
I love it when shows/movies do that. It always makes you wonder who's going to speak first, only to realize that they were never not speaking.
For once the writers seem to know about the power of silence 👍
"I lost my parents, then a husband, then my son Wesley - ALL to the same stars that own you."
I will never forget this scene, superb acting; raised the hair on my arms.
I didn't know about her parents. That adds a whole new element to her decision as well as her pain
Wesley is time travelling
@@jameschou7342 And as such, she lost him.
@@JKeats82 higher plane of existence. At least he can stop by to hang out with Jack if they do the new TV show.
She is an egoist. All about ME ME ME and what IIIII lost.
There is one thing that Beverly never took into account and that’s how Picard would have reacted to knowing that he was going to be a father. Yes, she is correct that he always has jumped at the opportunity to help the Federation or anyone in dire need, but she never understood why. It was because it gave him purpose. But the one purpose he never felt or was confronted with was being a father.
"I knew I could protect my child but I didn't know if I could protect yours" 😮 Amazinggggg!!!!!👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
What the? That's the worst logic ever. This whole story on a illogical idea? I hope not.
@@IronMan-wz8dx Maybe you just don't understand so I'll explain it to you. Beverly was winding down her starfleet career and knew she could chill with her child. Jean luc wasn't even close to done with starfleet as he was trying to save BILLIONS of romulans from the romulan supernova while being chased by assassins and almost being murdered every other day. If they knew he had a son then she wouldn't be able to keep him safe. But without him knowing then the kid can be safe.
@@olaminabryan8026 I guess Ill give it some weight but sad to say the other members of starfleet in positions of power. Not only that but the additional child support from starfleet. I know I'm trying to bring it down to the present but that's also in line with what they have done. The son that doesn't know his father until he's older. We'll see how the rest of the story ties in.
@Iron Man I wasn't justifying Beverly's actions but the acting and writing in this one scene was perfect. Oscar worthy acting in this scene
@@IronMan-wz8dx Well, if Picard knew of his kid, he would have ended up as bad as Raffi is, because she gave up a husband and son the moment she stepped on the Verity to help the Romulan evacuation.
He would have lost a ship and failed a mission, and probably triggered war with the Romulan Star Empire, on top of the impending supernova.
Do not forget, Spock acted to contain the damage from the same supernova after it happened. A war would have meant he would not be anywhere near able to contain the fallout, which meant that many more worlds would have burned, and far more lives lost.
Christ!!! This was some powerful acting brought on from some wonderful writing.
To see these two characters at such odds is akin to watching your parents having a massive bust up. It’s painful.
Picard has so much emotional power in this scene...
You can tell how much these actors missed these roles. Worf, Geordi, Beverly...They've all dropped right back into the characters without missing a beat, even when required to play their newly developed personalities and advanced ages.
Amazing scene, but Picard was right. Beverly had no right to make that choice for him. She let fear rule her, and she didn't consider that if they were together, maybe they could have protected EACH OTHER (like spouses ought to), that they would be STRONGER together. She never gave Jean Luc a chance to truly BE her PARTNER. He's absolutely right to be outraged and hurt. She acted out of cowardice, and look at all the good it did her anyway. It's didn't make her and their son safer after all.
I think some people miss the point that she was trying to get across. She wasn’t scared because it was her child, she was scared because the child was HIS. Picard is such a bigger than life character, a legend and a hero, his child would always be a target and in danger - more so than herself or even Wesley. Saying that, her reasoning was weak. To cut out everyone in her life for 20 years - she should have trusted her crew and friends to help her. There must be more to it than this.
I sure hope so because it doesn't look good for her.
I largely agree.
Lets break it down again. Would Picard permanently retire and be a family man? How do we know that people still wouldn't come after him even in retirement? (He had ex Tal Shiar agents living full time in his house for this very reason) If he was still commissioned in Starfleet, would he be ok having a detached relationship with his son while taking big risks? (Like Kirk and his son)
Now looking at it from a world building view, there is a reason why starfleet ships don't have families on them anymore. We can see this viscerally when Captain Sisko loses his wife Jennifer in the battle of Wolf 359. SISKO WAS GOING TO RESIGN OVER THE DEATH OF HIS WIFE AND THE NEAR LOSS OF HIS SON.
Hell the only reason Sisko and O'brian had their families on DS9 was because it was assumed that station life would have been slower and less dangerous. Little did they know DS9 would be a centerpiece to the Dominion War. The peaceful era of the mid 24th century, heralded by the hotelesque Galaxy Class is over. The Post-Dominion War / Post-Romulan Empire galaxy is a far more dangerous place now. Starfleet isn't a place to raise a family anymore. Would you want to raise a family on a fleet flagship, with a man who is the face of starfleet, and dealing with the "adventure of the week" constantly threatening to end him and your family?
Im never going to argue that what Beverly did WASN'T fucked up. What she did certainly was. It is absolutely not fair that she made the decision for him. She did not give him a chance. But I'm not going to argue that her logic and her fears are utterly invalid like many people are.
No, I totally disagree with you about Beverly.
As she said and listed out the important people in her lives that she lost while serving in Starfleet, exposing and revealing that she had a son with Picard would have exposed both of them to the most extreme dangers!
She did consider trying to reach out to him at several times, but at every turn, Picard was being thrown into one galactic crisis after another. And that sealed her decision to remain in exile and separated from her old friends, but with the literal deadly secret of her son in her old age!
She's had 20 years to rationalize, she's gotten good at it.
Sorry but I dont buy this explanation, unless is there something more, its simply poor writing and poor rip off of Star trek II scene with Kirk and Carol. I would maybe believe that if she was not itself a starfleet officer, head of starfleet medical, chief of medical officer on Enterprise for about 20 years! She was same targed as him because she was hell of expert in her field, she was involved in lot of cover starfleet operations, danger operations, she knew the risks and she know Picard for about 20 years. She was no Carol Marcus at this point.
"And then Starfleet asked you to negotiate with the Praetor"
So it is technically all Janeway's fault.
no its not.
As is tradition.
That monster can ruin ANYTHING!
'You should eat Haaaaaaryyyy!!!'
No, this was a different Praetor lol, he didn't learn from the first time.
I can see where both sides were coming from.... But I'm gonna have to take Picard's side on this one. If you're gonna be a Dad, you have a right to know.
Especially since the notion she could protect Jack from all dangers evidently turned out to be a pipe dream. As much as a son of Jean-Luc Picard might have had a target on his back, he'd also have plenty of support watching said back.
Picard, my father, Jack Picard, uss Melbourne
I agree. Had she actually talked to him at the time about her fears they might have found a way to overcome them. She was in the wrong.
Reminds me of Admiral's Kirk's discussion with Carol Marcus after discovering her senior researcher was actually his son.
At least Kirk knew he had a son. Their son was the one who didn't know Kirk was his dad.
Actually, this was done even better. I like Dr. Crusher’s point of view. It’s a great argument between 2 people who genuinely care about each other.
@@Mokkari77 You're the second person I've seen make that claim that Kirk knew. I don't understand why, since that was a huge important scene in that movie, was Kirk finding out he had a GROWN son, that he never got to know existed. Kirk was not given a choice.
I'm genuinely curious why several people are remembering it differently from how I remember it went.
@@Marialla. Because Kirk asks Carol "Is that David?" After the young man who just attacked him called her "mother". Then later when he's alone with her Kirk says "I did what you wanted. I stayed away. Why didn't you tell him?" And if he didn't know he'd be outraged like Picard instead of feeling sad that his son tried to kill him.
Incredible observation. You think maybe this season is influenced by WoK?!
A scorned woman remembers every little detail.
It occurs to me she fell pregnant shortly after the relentless slaughter of the Dominion war and the events of Nemisis where a clone of Picard wrought such chaos. Woman has seen a lot of trauma and violence. Maybe she reached her limit.
THAT is a legitimate argument. Still, she made a huge error, but fear makes people irrational. It doesn't excuse her, but it does EXPLAIN her.
No, no amount of excuses can ever make Beverly out to be heroic or offer justification.
This is such a well written and acted scene and it was amazing to see these two characters talking to each other again after all these years. I specially like the power in Picard's voice when he said "You don't get to condemn people before the fact".
Too many women think 'they' are in charge of the father/child relationship. That somehow the mother just always knows best. And that could not be further from the truth. Just ask my son who's mother walked out on his life.
Single dads make better parents and especially for sons.
I never imagined Picard would have baby mama drama.
I like how after the mention of the third attempt on his life he goes silent. it's like he's going 'hmm maybe she has a point'
"I'm beginning to see a pattern here..."
And he could of learned that point 20 years sooner.
A question do you think would be acceptable for a man to keep some secret like from his wife/girlfriend? What would we say if the shoe were on the other foot and it was Picard making decisions about Beverly Crusher and whether or not she should know that she has a son(I realize that biology renders such a question mote, but still consider it hypothetically)
And yet, Jack's wanted and hunted. How'd that turn out.
@@jamesmartin9401 Hmm. Maybe it really is genetics :)
“We’re we together? Were we going to be? You had your life and I had mine. And I wanted him in mine. Not chasing around space like his father.”
This is an amazing character arc by amazing actors.
This isn't an arc. This is part of one.
A lot of great moral points made by both characters. True, Picard may have led a very different life had he been raising children. But also true, because of his position, any children of his would have been targets for enemies of UFP, Starfleet, or even had enormous expectations placed on them b y those who knew Jean-Luc. Both are right, and yet neither are wrong. Great writing AND great performances.
She's still wrong. She denied him his voice and the opportunity to have a life watching his son grow. Crusher gets NO pass on this. Her reasons were selfish, his were not. Don't justify her character's outrageous behavior.
I found her reply admirably restrained. I certainly understand his anger, but the fact that his first thought is about himself and his rights rather than their child and its safety kind of makes her point.
@@Scipio488 So, if a mother feels justified (for reasons true or not), the father can be cut out with no moral responsibility and denying someone their voice. Got it. Very progressive.
And yet, she cut him out and Jack was STILL a target. Big "oof" on her part.
It makes her into a coward. Beverly Crusher was fearless. Shes a howard, not a coward. This is how she treats her BEST FRIEND?? what an awful character destruction.
Casperia Prime must truly be beautiful. They've mentioned it many times as being better than Risa.
Incredible scene!!! The best acting brought out by these two!! 👏
If it wasn’t for the rest of the show. This scene kills it. I mean it’s good they’re back at work together doing a show. And they keep it in mind to stick with the script to make the scene we all want to see.
Agreed. The rest of the series is mediocre at best.
Beverly & Picard Riker & Picard all were amazing. I love my TNG crew ❤
First it was Riker and Troi, now it's Picard and Dr. Crusher. This is why it's called The Next Generation. Love it. 👍☺️
That's why many call it The Love Boat.
That was some of the best dialog I have heard in a very, very long time
Well acted, great dialogue, disastrous for the characters though. Changing how the audiences feels about them, and has long term implications that reveals internal flaws and a weak internal moral compass. Also, revealing the willingness to betray someone you loved at a massive level. It ruins Beverly's character, no matter if you sympathize with her motives. She didn't get to make that choice. The special connection you saw between them in TNG, the respect, kindness and depth. It showed she was selfish and felt justified to do it, and that bedrock of that relationship was a lie. Zero moral discomfort with taking his voice and his opportunity to have the family he yearned for. TNG is tainted now, knowing Beverly betrayed Picard and tried to gaslight him it's his fault. Terrible decision to reveal a betrayal like this which damages the character's moral center. Ugh. The 24th century still has people that feel entitled to deny their children the other parent for selfish motives. Wonderfully optimistic NuTrek. Thanks. I guess S2 is still ok for Dr. Pulaski.
happens every single day multitudes of time in family court... go sit in on your local family court and watch for a few days. you'll see some of the best acting from women like dr beverly in action.
Picard's right. She made the choice for him. She should have told him.
So powerful. You grow with these characters, think you know them and then this scene. Wow!!!
Picard actually having a spine and making good points instead of being a sniveling, sentimental apologist. Never thought I would see this in STP.
this is what parental alienation looks like.
Man i understand picard's rage fully... his face where he's just staring at her in seething anger says it all... this is a great scene...
All I was hearing from Beverly is "I'm making excuses because I was afraid you'd leave if you knew."
Season 1 Picard would have been begging and pleading with Beverly. Nice to see him with a spine again. I'm really enjoying Season 3.
The way he went "I didn't" nearly made me cry. What fantastic acting from the both of them, what a damn scene
That was a powerful moment
so both Picard and Kirk spend a lifetime not finding out about their sons until the end
If i had not seen this scene I would have not believed beverley would ever DO this.... The writing and performance is so good I buy it despite kinda hating it because our heroes were always so close to perfect for me
Never thought I would say this about a new Star Trek show but this was well done! Great actors given great writing to work with. An intense scene involving a difficult situation for them both. Notice the lack of music. Lots of fantastic scenes in TNG have had no music, didn’t need it
Yes the lack of music can give more atmosphere, I only wish more directors would realise this.
This is really well done and all, but the whole episode, especially with the nebula setup, I just kept thinking "this is straight-up Wrath of Khan with Picard instead of Kirk"
The whole scenario feels intentionally derivative, it'd be not so bad if we hadn't already had so much of that from Star Trek in the past 20 years with both Nemesis and Into Darkness. They've also laying on the nostalgia as thick as possible, you just know we're going to be seeing all those old ships when Frontier Day comes.
That said, at least the writing has improved.
Nothing wrong with riffing off the best, if you can elevate it with your own contribution. WoK is my favorite Trek movie, but it never had a scene this deep and raw between Kirk and Carol Marcus.
I think that they were going more for "Best of Both Worlds" with the ship and (Picard & Friends in particular) being hunted by a vastly superior foe who outclass them in just about every way with the nebula simply buying them time. The 1st episode even used Picard's audio logs from that TNG episode.
@@danieldickson8591 That's a good point. For me it felt a little overly derivative but I'm open to seeing where it goes, and I'm liking the broader plot of this season.
@@deinekes9 Hadn't thought of that. The thing with both ships plus the previously-unknown son does make me think WoK more.
can't stretch my disbelief far enough to watch
She did him wrong.... she did this man wrong.....
2:55 - 25 years later, and Captain Picard can still make you feel like a sh*tless worm.
Patrick Stewart is just phenomenal in season 3.
All i here are excuses and a way to hurt him. This is the ultimate betrayal in a relationship. I’d NEVER forgive her for this. NEVER.
Yup. She goes way past wrong. She CHOSE to betray him. She took his voice, his power of agency and ability to grow and make different choices. Then, she gaslights him. Her character, for what seemed like a moral compass in TNG. NuTrek has made her Amber Heard. Gaslighting and excuses, it was his fault she didn't tell him. She was justified. I hate her guts. This is not the future Star Trek is supposed to embody, marginalizing and taking people's voices away when they had a right to know.
@@zoso1980 this, unfortunately, is the future of feminism.
And that is why men don't open up. She used his confidence, his fears, his trust to cut him out of a blasted future.
A hard hitting scene given that Patrick Stewart is estranged from his sons in REAL life. He's tortured by it. He's revealed that in his autobiography.
Indeed. Hits twice as hard when you consider Patrick's father had PTSD from his war service, culminating in some very violent episodes in young Patrick's household (abuse/domestic violence).
Absolutely stunning performances! WOW!
She had plenty of time to tell him when she they were both together on the ship at the same time. He was not always being kidnapped.
I really don't understand the use of shakycam in this scene. Kills the mood for me
Beverly: I'd gotten pregnant.
Picard: Now I know how Worf feels.
The fact that both sides have a point, and a powerful one, really makes this. There's reasons to agree with both of them, and reasons to question whichever side you do choose. Am I only sympathizing with Jean-Luc because I'm a man too, and it's therefore easier to put myself in his shoes than hers?
I see your point. But I see Beverly's. She lost everything. Everything that was dear to her to the stars. And as much as she loved him, Jean-Luc represented those stars. And after knowing Jean-Luc for 40 years, Beverly knows who Picard is. And him having a child could not only put a target on that child's back, but the possibility of Jean-Luc having resentment for losing those stars he loved so much. And in her mind, she could not risk that. And I don't blame her.
The difference is Jean-Luc willing sacrificed everything for the stars. Beverly was never as enamored as Jean-Luc was with Starfleet or the adventure.
@@vapsa56 I dont agree. She was also starfleet officer as he was, she was highly decorated officer, chief medical officer of Federation flagship for 20 years, she was also a
commanding officer. She knew risks when she wed Jack and she was part of this dangerous missions herself. She did not lost Wesley, he grew up as everybody, what happen after was his decision, and she should accept this, be happy for him what he achieved. And she was as much big name in Starfleet/Federation as Picard hilmself. So no, I don buy this, it was selfish from her side and did not make much sense that she had so little faith in him after more than 20 years of friendship. Even Carol Marcus had decency to tel Kirk about his son and it was mutural decision probably that he was not invoved in David life. So no, unless there is bigger reason why she cut off everyone, this is horseship from from writers of STP.
@@vapsa56
Why would he "lose the stars"? She had her first child along traveling the stars. And the whole "target on the child's back" is neither here nor there. As it turns out, Jack has a target on his back anyway. The difference is - had his full parentage been known, he'd have had the whole gang holding his back all those years already.
She was trying to protect their son, but he still turns into a smuggler that's being chased by a maniac in a warship. That doesn't really support her stance.
That's two washout kids to her name.
I was in tears when he said that such power
Best scene of the Star Trek Picard series.
Well, Wesley becoming a traveler was his choice not Jean-Luc’s.
But that process started in TNG Season 1 when Wesley was too young to make that decision. Watch "Where No One Has Gone Before" and you see the Traveler privately bedazzle Picard into becoming his accomplice in promoting Wesley's super-being future. The Traveler even advises Picard to not tell "the mother". It's compounded with Beverly taking a different job the next year and expecting Wesley to join her, except Picard accepts this child's request to stay on the ship and be mentored by Picard and his crew. By the time Beverly returns to the Enterprise (giving up her promotion to get her old job back and accommodate the acting ensign opportunity Wesley could have under no one but Picard), Wesley is more under Picard's influence than his mother's. It's problematic.
@@MagicAl5F4781 Exactly, well said.
Great scene- good acting, good writing.
Now this, is Picard. I heard him come out here. Up until now, it wasnt really him.
yeah this season he does sound more like tng his voice is even more powerful like it used to be
This is some great writing. Acting is great of course but Patrick and Gates have great material to work with here.
Crusher was 100% in the wrong here and she stole something precious and important to Picard. Back in the movie Generations, he explains how important family was to him. Good she was evil for doing do.
He explained that to Troi, who no doubt kept it under counselor/patient confidentiality.
She did something horrible, but I think it was out of genuine fear.
@@junbh2 That doesn't excuse it, and she gaslights him that she was justified without a hint of moral discomfort makes me look at her the same way I see Amber Heard. That respect, character and bond the TNG crew had with each other, the writers tossed. Beverly became a symbol for modern feminism that, "men don't matter," because I say so. Yuck. Bad play NuTrek.
@@zoso1980manosphere bollocks.
This is what happens when you write characters with flaws. They don't always make the right decision
@@ralalbatross Brilliant. A Nutrekker excusing rubbish writing and Maury Povich style 21st Century tropes. Good on you. Nice misandry, too, noticed that in your viewpoint too. Picard and his needs didn't matter, only Beverly's sketchy behavior. Trek is supposed to be above that, you know? That better future that we BY CHOICE choose to not hurt each other. We have compassion for each other. Guess you missed that. I'd expect that in a activist type Nutrekker. Your internal 'people can hurt each other and, men deserve it' is high grade Amber Heard style 21st century trash. Shame on you for your contribution of low grade intellectual trash diminishing a core tenant of TNG Trek. It betrayed Beverly's character and her established morals. The writing and changing of the character and her personal ethos was trash, is trash and is not about about "right decisions." It's about willfull hurting of another, which Beverly of TNG would not do. But, defend it Amber. Let your misandry defend marginalizing men. Your defense of it just highlights your intellectual issues that you don't "get" TNG Trek and your apparent agreeing that Beverly was justified in lying and being skeevy in a 21st century way. Nothing to do with "manosphere." It has every thing to do with how we treat each other. Be better, do better. TNG Trek tried to show that. You missed the lesson obviously.
Excellent acting.
In another iconic videogame franchise a widow once said of her fighter pilot boyfriend (paraphrasing) "a man whose heart belongs in the sky will return to the sky".
The writing and acting is impeccable; know Jack is Jean Lucs son, I wondered how Beverly could possibly justify not telling him. And the Gates and Patrick did this scene, and I saw a mom doing anything for her child….
Star Trek at its best…and when it is, it makes one think and see issues from multiple perspectives…
Unusually good, mature screenwriting
This scene was incredible. I think one of the best I all of Trek. How much Picard changed. He was obviously extremely changed by his assimilation by the Borg. It changed his nagging thoughts about not having children. It made him long for a "collective". He started truly treating Data, Riker, Troi, LaForge, Crusher, Word and others like family more than officers under his command. Then the death of his actual family during Generations. That was the final straw I think. Then we see his actions during Insurrection. He was very slightly tempted by the offer to stay on Baccu. It was an offer of love and not of family though I think. He was never actually tempted at all to stay on the planet. He really was married to Starfleet. The Picard from the Next Generation would have completely understood Beverly and her decision. He would say he wouldn't have been able to be a father like he should be. For him to act this way is true character development! Bravo!
She failed to consider one thing, Does Picard knowing he has a son automatically put that son in danger? No, He is only in danger if everyone else knows his Picard's son. Also Picard might have liked to have the family name continue Remember how upset he was in Star Trek Generations when he found out his brother and his nephew died in the fire and he reasoned that the Picard family name would die with him?
I think him having a son without the Picard name is a tradeoff he is more than willing to live with.
wOw!!! really well handled - best I've seen on TV - ever - on this type of subject. And these two actors are no surprise to have pulled it off. Picard definitely changed during those 20 years -
When Beverly referring to when she said 2 weeks before left uss enterprise is which timeline stamp point:
1.when Beverly didn’t reappear and reprise her role during after 1st season not in 2nd season of TNG due to cause her tng character acting contract wasn’t renewed till they decided bring her back in 3rd season
2. Timeline gap during between from when USS Enterprise D was destroyed during ending of last season series finale up until point when USS Enterprise E was constructed entering TNG Motion Picture Series
3. Timeline gap during after last tng movie was released and start of Star Trek Picard series
It really boils down to 'Beverly not telling Jean-Luc was wrong, even if she had understandable fears'.
I'm sorry but how the heck do you get this to load like this and not get copyrighted. I've tried to load similar style clips and it won't even let me finish the process.
The shaky cam just does my head in
I hope that paramount learned that we can have both star trek and drama after this season. It was truly amazing
I love the ending with the foreign language jingle. :)
This is the part of Star Trek I’ve come to enjoy. Rather than have a happy crew, it gives the audience a more realistic approach on a human level. To see this crew actually have conflict in some of the scenes gives a sense of a new perspective towards the TNG crew. Thank goodness it’s not episodic. Can’t wait for more!
Trek TNG was mostly techno babble and very thin on real deep character.
Here the writers went into the Challenger Deep with the characters!
@@oculosprudentium8486 You missed the point on Trek TNG completely.
I disagree, if I wanted to watch "conflict" I would watch Pretty Little Liars; I prefer TNG because there was little personal drama...
Roddenberrys idea was to minimize crew conflict. These were supposed to be near utopian humans living in near paradise. The writers hated it.
@@peeweeson Agreed. There was a modicum of respect, professionalism and family. They worked together and treated each other well, become a family of sorts. You aspired to work in a place where people worked together like that. Fast-forward to this rubbish. Betrayal, hurt, denying people their right to know things. This doesn't inspire you, or make you like them. Beverly is Amber Heard, gaslighting Picard that the fact she erased him and never told him was justified because of who he was. Taking no ownership of the betrayal. I loathe Beverly now. These aren't characters you like or relate to anymore. As far as I'm concerned NuTrek ruined Beverly's character. She betrayed him, and no amount of gaslighting will change that.
Good Lord, If this acting from the NG series was like this, then it would have been stupendous. Awesome acting. Bravoo
Best scene ever!
Patrick Stewart - sometimes allowed to show what a great Shakespearian actor he is.
God, the look on Patrick's face at 0:18 just wrecks me. So much pain.
the most perfectly written scene in TV
I swear to God excuse after excuse. It’s what the 24th 25th century?! He could be halfway across the galaxy and she could still pick up a communicator and call him! No matter what century stuff doesn’t change!
Gaslighting, too. It's his fault, his profession is at fault that she didn't feel safe. She was JUSTIFIED to cut him out and never telling him. No moral discomfort, no accountability. The 24th century is showing the 21st century entitled mothers who feel carte blanche to deny father's knowing their children appears to still be a thing. Great society to look forward to NuTrek. Good job.
Good acting on both parts.
Life can be cruel at times to be so close to something you want more than you dare say and then to fail and loose it
This is so well written and acted and a delight to see. However, I just noticed a big glaring problem. Beverley says that over and over again, Picard made it clear he didn't want a family because he was afraid he'd be too much like his own father. Yet, the unforgettable and key TNG episode, The Inner Light shows Picard living an alternative life whilst unconscious and being put in a situation where he has a wife who wants a family. We see that they do have a family and she says what a good husband he is. We see what a great father and grandfather he was too. That experience radically changed Picard, taking away his uncomfortability with children. His experience in the Nexus, in Generations where his desire for a family is visualised. Also in that film, he seems to imply to Troi he would have liked a family to carry on the family name. During the series, both Wesley and Ro Laren viewed him as a father due to the paternal way he treated them and it helped their per growth, as they'd both lost their own father at a young age. Look how fatherly he was to Jono in the Suddenly Human TNG episode, too. All this happened before Beverly became pregnant with his child.
I know, its not that difficult to understand. Yet many will get in here and not criticize Dr Crusher for her violation, even worse, some will offer praise for her "courage and strength".
Jean-Luc and Beverly haven’t had their conversations in a long time and ever since the Enterprise-E was nearly destroyed
It’s pretty obvious what happened. The writers wanted to give Picard a son and then worked backwards to concoct a set of reasons for why we never heard about him until now. Gates McFadden does a great job selling Crusher’s reasons. This is easily some of the best acting she’s ever done in Star Trek. It’s almost good enough to make you forget how ridiculous Crusher’s reasoning is. Picard wasn’t President. I’m sure there are far more important people in the Federation who are under constant threat and whose children are also at risk. Do their mothers conceal them from their fathers? Of course not. This is also not the first time Star Trek has had a woman keep secret that she had a main character’s child. Remember Worf’s lover from TNG? Coincidentally, that episode was also directed by Jonathan Frakes.
Great acting, bad writing(?), main problem of this show, that they don't take in consideration whole personality of Beverly during TNG or TNG movie era. Sure there was not much of
characterization during this era, however, she was chief medical officer on board of flagship for 20 years, i think she was also head of starfleet medical in some point. She highly decorated officer and expert in her field. She was as much big name in Federation or Starfleet as Picard himself. So i dont buy her points. Also her husband die more than 20 years ago, she did not lost Wesley, he simply grew up and what he did or become is his personal choice. And she cut everyone for 20 years. Unless there is different reason for this, this is terrible writing from ST:Picard writing room...
Not to mention one of the first examples being in Star Trek: The Wrath of Khan when Kirk finds out that his old girlfriend had his son, David, and never told him. Than of course David, unfortunately, dies trying to save Spock.
@@danielkubin3878 Her husband died 20 years ago? You're not talking about Jack are you because he died a lot longer than 20 years ago. Wesley was a little kid when they found out. She was married to Picard about 30 years ago though. And in a way she did lose Wesley because, like The Travelers, he's phasing in and out of the space and time and traveling places further than anyone could imagine only coming back for Nemesis and ST: Picard. Beverly is his mother and she doesn't get to see him so I think for her it feels like a loss. That's just my guess though. 🤷🏻♀
@@JustTanya.Kirk knew he had a son. But he and Carol decided it was best that Kirk not be part of his life.
@@danielkubin3878even you buy her reasons for cutting Picard out of her life, it made no sense why she cut ties with everyone else.
I was thinking, what if there was a secret daily subspace (super encrypted but with clues) backup of Data's brain that someone somehow discovered on some remote planet or even spread across multiple planets in RAID parity state. They could resurrect Data's data inside a ship's computer and get Spiner to do Data's voice over without playing the physical character. They could even name a spaceship Data and continue the character, eventually to be played by another or multiple actors as an android or a hologram.
Interesting scene, goes deep. The real lesson here is what can happen with our choices. Everything hangs on an all most.