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Can u verify my findings I have same laptop going from 2gb to 512mb does make gpu better but if I'm watching RUclips that uses integrated graphics And I noticed way more stutters watching videos I found sweet spot is actually 1gb
They don't do that because its smart. They don't include the extra ram because they can convince YOU to do that. So they don't have to pay for it. Which is smart.
You really need to properly use comparison charts - changing the scale of one of the charts (180 vs 250) is misleading and in this case is detrimental to the point you are trying to make because the bars look closer relative to stock than the increases would otherwise show! You can change the scale as needed per game but you should always match scales in comparisons.
Exactly how is it misleading. To the fact that the second set of charts was to show you the difference with the memory. And now to the fact that CSGO was almost hitting 250, it makes sense to have the second chart with higher fps count. So if you bothered to actually pay attention to the video, in no way is it misleading.
@@NedRigNerd Charts are for easy visual reference. The bars on 0-250 scale is marginally taller than the bars on the 0-180 scale. At a glance, this shows modest improvements whereas his data actually shows massive improvements. Using the same scale, say 0-250 for both charts, the bars would be almost twice as tall in the games that showed 90% improvements, not 50% taller as shown in these charts using different scales. If the improved scale was 0-1000 the bars would look SMALLER than the stock bars with 0-180! It is a waste of time to show bar charts on the same slide representing comparative data using a different scale. Using different scales is typically used to hide deficiencies or cover up under performance (the opposite happens here). I did pay attention to the video unlike you did in the statistics class you apparently never took.
I actually picked up this laptop when you promoted it last time, got the extra memory stick for 16gb and 1tb nvme. It's been absolutely amazing. Even more performance is awesome!
@@stingrayslapper1595 , Cheers for the reply, I have taken out the Samsung memory, and have put in x2 8gb, it says 3200 on the box, Task manager showing 2667 MHz I'm confused
Swapped out both sticks for a CL22 2Rx8 3200 32GB 16x2 set of ram and saw a massive performance jump. Its hard to find this Ram and its not cheap but its worth the money. I am getting about 70 FPS Average in Cyberpunk 2077 without FSR or DLSS.
@@DSP720 Not only that but many laptops purposefully make you update the RAM, no matter if you went $100-200 up or not..most of the laptops are 16GB no matter if they're $950 or $1750..
@@theplayerofus319 I bought this exact same laptop with the lowest ram and SSD Spec to save the money up front, I did this because I know the SSD and Ram are going to be Garbage, I paid just about 600$ US, Grabbed a 500gb Silcon Power m.2 SSD for next to nothing, found the ram I wanted for roughly 70. I know how sleezy the laptop market is and made my decisions around that fact with my 700 dollar budget. I now have a laptop I am 100% happy with. Its not blowing the budget, its using the money effectively to get the best result.
Well, if you have the option to change the CPU TDP in your BIOS, that'll be an extra bonus, but provided that you plug in most of the time because increasing the TDP can make your system very warm and drain your battery faster. Though you won't see a good FPS gain in gaming, but single threaded workload gain a significant boost. I usually max out the TDP of my AMD laptop.
Even without the bios you can essentially gaslight your CPU into getting more tdp with imon slope adjustments. Not sure if possible with amd but with Intel , it made my laptop pretty snappy .
This is some good advice. Alot of people don't know that the integrated GPU doesn't do anything if you have a graphics card. Also note that alot of newer laptops have thunderbolt 4 so you can connect an external GPU and won't need to upgrade your laptop after a few years.
It actually does. It doesn't make sense to use a dGPU (especially Nvidia) if you're not gaming because the TDP it uses is much higher than the TDP - for the mobile device.
Please go into Lenovo Advantage and turn off Dual-Mode. There's no need for the IGPU to be turned on when you want to game off the 3050ti. You are actually sacrificing performance by allowing both of them to run at the same time. Also, the 3050ti performs well when connecting to a external monitor with the IGPU turned off which allows it fully be utilized. The mux switch is there for a reason, use it.
Doesn't it have a passthrough? Some cheaper laptops used to pass the dedicated GPU's image through the integrated graphics and then to the screen. An external display port like HDMI was used to be wired directly from the dedicated GPU.
@@jonny11bonk Yes, it's directly passed through IGPU when plugged in which is bad. If you want the passthrough to be clean, it has to come from the 3050ti ONLY. If you disable the integrated graphics, it will solve the loss of performance issue that otherwise occurs. Normally, when plugging it in into an external display, it uses the integrated graphics signal which causes input delay which sucks. The result of it is that it passes the graphics from the IGPU instead of the graphics card which is bad if you want to utilize the actual graphics card properly. When going through the integrated graphics from the igpu, it ends hp resulting in loss of fps performance, input delay, and other shit. There's a video on RUclips explaining why you should disable the IGPU's in laptops like these which do come with a mux switch, because it's super beneficial.
@@lawtamimhi, mine doesn't come with a mix switch, maybe the newer variants do. But specifically this one does not allow for the igpu to be disabled. If you want to use only the rtx 3050 then use an external monitor.
I never understood what are these self-kneecaping offerings of "gaming" laptops with only 8GB of ram. BRUTAL. windows itself needs 6GB to run properly.
Bought this for $549 during the Best Buy Black Friday sale, and immediately ordered another 8gb *And* a 1TB Tforce SATA SSD (both black friday deals too) for an additional $65. It's a little beast!!
Even in older laptops with only integrated GPU you should ALWAYS set DEDICATED video memory to the lowest, usually 64MB. It does not mean that it will act as a 64MB card, it means that it RESERVES that memory so other RAM using programs can't touch it, but its dumb. The integrated GPU still can access all the RAM as video memory dynamically, but if its set to for example 2GB it means that even if nothing uses the GPU, you still have 6GB from the 8GB ram. If its not dedicated 2GB then the only problem that can be is that a prg uses 7GB when more than 1GB vram is needed and the gpu cant steal more, but for games the most data are the textures and they are loaded to the vram anyway, so even with 8GB it would be rare that GPU cant reserve the needed RAM. And with 16GB its even more impossible. So TLDR setting it low does not mean that tha integrated GPU can only access that much, it means that it pre-reserver it to be sure that its available when needed, but the dynamic reservation is perfectly fine, and if you are not using the iGPU then the reserved vram is a lost ram.
I've heard that limiting RAM usage on the integrated GPU will make the laptop prone to crash on high load, is this true? I don't have any problem when my iGPU accessed 2gb of RAM though, as it still perform relatively close to reviewers benchmark, just asking this from a newbie perspective.
As someone with the same laptop in the video (albeit the non ti rtx3050) i highly recommend you save up and buy the 3060 or the newer 4050/4060 variants as the 3050s 4gb vram is not sufficient for many games anymore, and will be even less going forward.
I undervolted my 3050 Ti to 875 mV and clocks are pinned to 1800 MHz all the time. Power draw doesn't exceed 60 watts and temps are great. Definitely recommend giving it a go with msi afterburner.
You're making a huge mistake friend. Set your GPU to auto - you don't need to use your dGPU on battery! Integrated GPU (which is more than enough for anything you need on battery) should be used whenever possible.
@@xslvrxslwt It is on auto lol. I actually do sometimes play games on battery and the 3050 Ti gets better perf on lower power in all cases. The laptop also lasts a bit over two hours during gaming. Even on wallpower, the undervolt just gives me consistent clocks, with no throttling and lower power, while holding better clocks.
You forgot to mention about disabling turbo boost for amd processors. It makes sure that it runs under 80C under full load. Change Processor performance boost mode from Agressive to Disabled. Helps alot, fan does not have to work super hard to keep up. Best upgrade apart from ram upgrade.
I've disable the turbo boost, and it really show some temp drop... But is it necessary to undervolt it further? I mean, I'm already satisfied with the temp (never exceed 80c, except when rendering shader cache in TLOU), but I really wonder if undervolt will give me benefit without any string attached... I undervolted my old Intel Laptop because the throttling is real, but I did that in XTU, which is more stable because it has full intel support, unlike these 3rd party apps
You used different scales for the left and the right graph, so the caparison is not visually impressing if the left one is significantly lower then the right one.
You should change your graphs, I think I know that the two little bars next to the big one are the 1% lows and the other being a variation of it, but I'm not very sure. It's kind of confusing ngl
Some older AMD laptops may not have it or the OEM was dumb enough to hide it from the BIOS. I had to flash a custom firmware on mine so I could lower it to 256MB from 1GB.
My dell g15 6600h with a bare bones 3050 slays this laptop. You can do more to get better fps guys...way batter. Did you check for a mux or resizeable bar? Did you temp limit the ryzen to stop throttling? There are a few scheduling tweaks to the registry that help quite a bit. Cyberpunk can get way better fps by lowering volumetric details and fog...just that one alone boosted 10fps.
You need to be careful changing that size. That is what the GPU reports its memory to be to some game executables. That's obviously not true if you look at task manager, but I've run into instances where some games won't launch at all because they don't think there's enough memory.
I've had a similar issue but not with changing ram size, it's to do with fighting settings of when the system assigns the GPU. In the case of your issue you lower the gpu ram size and then the machine assigns the igpu instead of the dedicated card. Check both windows and card software settings to see if they are assigning the dedicated gpu.
I too suspect 16 GB of faster ram would be better than 32 GB of same ram. If you search, there has to be a performance review to match what you are asking. * LTT or someone has done it I'm sure. * The thing is with laptops they "can" use stupid ram like DDR3L or DDR4L SODIMM and you may be very limited in what speed you can choose, and testing found about this topic might only be applicable to desktop ram however I would be surprised if it did not scale over to the laptop ram..
@@blkspade23 Ya, well you better inform the OEM's that have a wide gambit of ram spec'd on the boards way over 3200 but of course it does not mean those boards will accept anything other than that one ram speed, a speed much higher than you provided btw.
This is really misleading. You should ALWAYS use the integrated graphics when possible (especially on battery) because of the enormous difference in the power consumption+thermals.
Nothing about this upgrade guide disables the igp at all. And on battery outside of gaming this laptop uses the igp. Reducing the allocated framebuffer also has no real net negative affect against igp use, because the igp can still dynamically allocate memory as needed. Indeed the only scenario where having a higher static allocation to the igp matters......is in gaming, and that's something you're going to be doing on the 3050ti anyway.
on my hp envy with an i7 and nvida mx 150 i i disable boosting on the cpu to keep it cooler and overclocked the gpu, it at least doubled the performance
Oi, Brett. I don't know if I've been Mandela'd but I can't find a reference to you dressed as Krillin, and I feel like I saw you doing so some years ago. I'm looking for an image of this because I reference you as Krillin in a video i'm making. Please help point me in the right direction. Thanks.
I’d like to see how it performs with 64GB ram and if at that capacity if going from 2gb to 512mb allocated to the igpu even makes a noticeable difference. And if it doesn’t, what is the difference in performance when the igpu IS being used, how noticeable is the performance difference?
32 gbs of ram would prolly be the most noticeable increase you'd see in games and having a good speed with it too of 3600 mhz max. 64 Gbs wouldn't hurt and it's nice to have overhead if you have other apps open like discord, chrome, projects open in background or rendering something, etc. DDR4 being ultra cheap i say 32/64 gbs is prolly safest option when considering outside of gaming factors.
I have this laptop but with rtx 3050. From what I've learned there're different versions of these GPU's, for example 60W or 70W etc. I thought mine was 60W, not fastest version but I unlocked overclock mode in Lenovo Vantage app which gave me a lot more fps. Basically going from 60W to 80-85W. Its a difference of ~52 fps to 60 so it's definitely worth checking.
AMDs are really power and temp efficient for last 2 years in the laptops. My R3 5300U never gets over 60°C, even when maxed out on all cores. It's an HP laptop for 300€ and the battery lasts like a week for me. I only used Autocad, Inventor and Fusion 360. I hope AMD won't stop in making these awesome CPUs.
all output to hdmi goes through the igpu which is very limited in performance. So basically this laptop is terrible I never use the 3050ti that i bought because i am not gaming on a 15 inch screen in 2023
I have the laptop and i got excited for some fps increases, turns out the vid doesnt help at all... i already had 16gb, so ram wasnt limited, but upgrading to 32gb and dual channel slightly helped.
See if you can undervolt your cpu/gpu then. Next best thing to improver performance and thermals, since gaming laptops often get thermal throttled. Just use software like Ryzen Master and MSI Afterburner
@@LatvianVideo sounds like you’ve achieved pretty much max performance you can with that machine then. Small tweaks (overclocking core clocks, memory, etc) may help if you have thermal headroom, but the gains will be minimal. Best thing would also be targeting lows/mins stability. If your bios supports it, you could try OC the Ram or tightening the timings, but most laptops are not going to support that their the basic Bios and motherboard selections. Also make sure your Smart Access Memory or (Resizable Bar) is enabled and if you have a Mux Switch or advanced optimus, try only using dedicated GpU and disable the integrated graphics entirely. Usually results in 5-6% gains, but will kill your battery life if you ever use it not plugged in
unfortunately if you're running an apu or integrated which wasn't shown here you aren't going to get gains like this, you might get some but nothing like this
So I have an Asus ROG Zephyrus 14" with a Ryzen 7 4800HS. My ram has on slot (one soldered to the board) and it's 16gb in dual channel, but would it make sense getting say a 16gb stick to swap out the 8gb i have access to? 24gb but no the equal ram in each slot so dunno how that affects it. GTX 1660 TI (max q variant) with 6 gb dedicated vRAM
Won't really be noticeable. Even with extra processes, everything will run Flex mode on the first 16GB of ram and only after that runs out would the last 8GB do any work. Unfortunately, that 8GB of single channel isn't going to be dedicated to the open chrome tab, unless the first 16GB is already in use when you open the tab.
I basically just did this for a friend with a Lenovo laptop just yesterday, gave her 4GB of 3200MHz RAM I had spare (I upgraded my own laptop from 2x4GB to 2x8GB not so long ago) so it was in dual channel and set the dedicated iGPU memory to 512M, because why does a whole 2GB need to be dedicated to the iGPU, the iGPU will just dip into system RAM anyway if it runs out. Its crazy how much difference dual channel memory can make, you lose so much performance being in single channel and a lot of people just don't realise it.
The 3050 laptops are really great paired with a 6 core CPU from intel or amd it's the best combination for budget mobile gamers my only problem is that game developers are not optimising their games properly to run on low end cards they think everyone has a rtx 4090 also GPU companies like Nvidia not providing features like dlss3 when the hardware supports it
@@theyamo What do you want for it? I'm rock throwing distance from china and they can replace the 3060 heat gun reball. I will also be back in the US in about 2 weeks.
the only flaw of this laptop is the optimus will not disable when using hdmi,i tried,you can go to lenovo vantage and OC the shit out of the rtx 3050ti
@@sukunasukana7547 thank you. You have no idea the amount of effort it took... just to click that noti quickly enough and then to realize there were probably no other comments here yet 😭
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Can u verify my findings I have same laptop going from 2gb to 512mb does make gpu better but if I'm watching RUclips that uses integrated graphics
And I noticed way more stutters watching videos I found sweet spot is actually 1gb
They don't do that because its smart. They don't include the extra ram because they can convince YOU to do that. So they don't have to pay for it. Which is smart.
Hey Brett, not sure if you ever covered this topic, virtual RAM could also help with performance from what I remember.
You really need to properly use comparison charts - changing the scale of one of the charts (180 vs 250) is misleading and in this case is detrimental to the point you are trying to make because the bars look closer relative to stock than the increases would otherwise show! You can change the scale as needed per game but you should always match scales in comparisons.
It is also amazing to see how important RAM is. It is almost criminal that they even sold this without 16Gbs. Really eye opening video.
@@ViralHeadcase if they sold the laptop with 16GB of RAM, it will have ram kit with non optimal ram rank or even single channel 16GB
Exactly how is it misleading. To the fact that the second set of charts was to show you the difference with the memory. And now to the fact that CSGO was almost hitting 250, it makes sense to have the second chart with higher fps count. So if you bothered to actually pay attention to the video, in no way is it misleading.
@@NedRigNerd Charts are for easy visual reference. The bars on 0-250 scale is marginally taller than the bars on the 0-180 scale. At a glance, this shows modest improvements whereas his data actually shows massive improvements. Using the same scale, say 0-250 for both charts, the bars would be almost twice as tall in the games that showed 90% improvements, not 50% taller as shown in these charts using different scales. If the improved scale was 0-1000 the bars would look SMALLER than the stock bars with 0-180! It is a waste of time to show bar charts on the same slide representing comparative data using a different scale. Using different scales is typically used to hide deficiencies or cover up under performance (the opposite happens here). I did pay attention to the video unlike you did in the statistics class you apparently never took.
I think the graphs were messed up in the second section of the video because Counter strike passed 180 fps. Weirdly simple mistake they made.
I actually picked up this laptop when you promoted it last time, got the extra memory stick for 16gb and 1tb nvme. It's been absolutely amazing. Even more performance is awesome!
same but i cried after i saw the 95 celcius in valorant with performance mode ( cpu)
@@amirulizzat2114I have the same laptop. Turn turbo off. It will keep it at 75 c
I have upgraded the memory to 2x8GB of Crucial Ballistix but it only runs at 2667mhz
@@ashmahmood7871 are both your sticks speed 3200 and CL the same? The pre installer ram is 3200. So make sure you bought another 3200mhz speed stick
@@stingrayslapper1595 , Cheers for the reply, I have taken out the Samsung memory, and have put in x2 8gb, it says 3200 on the box, Task manager showing 2667 MHz I'm confused
Swapped out both sticks for a CL22 2Rx8 3200 32GB 16x2 set of ram and saw a massive performance jump. Its hard to find this Ram and its not cheap but its worth the money. I am getting about 70 FPS Average in Cyberpunk 2077 without FSR or DLSS.
well why buy a budget gaming laptop when you blow the budget with the ram afterwards
I would recommend checking the specs, I'd be cautious if many of these laptops can handle 32 GB ram total.
@@theplayerofus319 maybe you didn't have the money at the time of purchase?
@@DSP720 Not only that but many laptops purposefully make you update the RAM, no matter if you went $100-200 up or not..most of the laptops are 16GB no matter if they're $950 or $1750..
@@theplayerofus319 I bought this exact same laptop with the lowest ram and SSD Spec to save the money up front, I did this because I know the SSD and Ram are going to be Garbage, I paid just about 600$ US, Grabbed a 500gb Silcon Power m.2 SSD for next to nothing, found the ram I wanted for roughly 70. I know how sleezy the laptop market is and made my decisions around that fact with my 700 dollar budget. I now have a laptop I am 100% happy with. Its not blowing the budget, its using the money effectively to get the best result.
Well, if you have the option to change the CPU TDP in your BIOS, that'll be an extra bonus, but provided that you plug in most of the time because increasing the TDP can make your system very warm and drain your battery faster. Though you won't see a good FPS gain in gaming, but single threaded workload gain a significant boost. I usually max out the TDP of my AMD laptop.
Even without the bios you can essentially gaslight your CPU into getting more tdp with imon slope adjustments. Not sure if possible with amd but with Intel , it made my laptop pretty snappy .
@@bryantdeleon7462Gaslighting your CPU, that's one way to describe it xD
This is some good advice. Alot of people don't know that the integrated GPU doesn't do anything if you have a graphics card. Also note that alot of newer laptops have thunderbolt 4 so you can connect an external GPU and won't need to upgrade your laptop after a few years.
It actually does. It doesn't make sense to use a dGPU (especially Nvidia) if you're not gaming because the TDP it uses is much higher than the TDP - for the mobile device.
Does this laptop have thunderbolt 4
absolutely not@@wank200
no
Please go into Lenovo Advantage and turn off Dual-Mode. There's no need for the IGPU to be turned on when you want to game off the 3050ti. You are actually sacrificing performance by allowing both of them to run at the same time. Also, the 3050ti performs well when connecting to a external monitor with the IGPU turned off which allows it fully be utilized. The mux switch is there for a reason, use it.
Doesn't it have a passthrough? Some cheaper laptops used to pass the dedicated GPU's image through the integrated graphics and then to the screen. An external display port like HDMI was used to be wired directly from the dedicated GPU.
@@jonny11bonk Yes, it's directly passed through IGPU when plugged in which is bad. If you want the passthrough to be clean, it has to come from the 3050ti ONLY. If you disable the integrated graphics, it will solve the loss of performance issue that otherwise occurs. Normally, when plugging it in into an external display, it uses the integrated graphics signal which causes input delay which sucks. The result of it is that it passes the graphics from the IGPU instead of the graphics card which is bad if you want to utilize the actual graphics card properly. When going through the integrated graphics from the igpu, it ends hp resulting in loss of fps performance, input delay, and other shit. There's a video on RUclips explaining why you should disable the IGPU's in laptops like these which do come with a mux switch, because it's super beneficial.
The Gaming 3 doesn't have a mux switch, so you won't find this setting in Lenovo Vantage
sorry if its a dumb question, but where can i find this? i looked around lenovo vantage but i didn't find it.
@@lawtamimhi, mine doesn't come with a mix switch, maybe the newer variants do. But specifically this one does not allow for the igpu to be disabled. If you want to use only the rtx 3050 then use an external monitor.
I never understood what are these self-kneecaping offerings of "gaming" laptops with only 8GB of ram. BRUTAL. windows itself needs 6GB to run properly.
Bought this for $549 during the Best Buy Black Friday sale, and immediately ordered another 8gb *And* a 1TB Tforce SATA SSD (both black friday deals too) for an additional $65. It's a little beast!!
Man those increases in fps is pretty insane.
Even in older laptops with only integrated GPU you should ALWAYS set DEDICATED video memory to the lowest, usually 64MB. It does not mean that it will act as a 64MB card, it means that it RESERVES that memory so other RAM using programs can't touch it, but its dumb. The integrated GPU still can access all the RAM as video memory dynamically, but if its set to for example 2GB it means that even if nothing uses the GPU, you still have 6GB from the 8GB ram. If its not dedicated 2GB then the only problem that can be is that a prg uses 7GB when more than 1GB vram is needed and the gpu cant steal more, but for games the most data are the textures and they are loaded to the vram anyway, so even with 8GB it would be rare that GPU cant reserve the needed RAM. And with 16GB its even more impossible. So TLDR setting it low does not mean that tha integrated GPU can only access that much, it means that it pre-reserver it to be sure that its available when needed, but the dynamic reservation is perfectly fine, and if you are not using the iGPU then the reserved vram is a lost ram.
I've heard that limiting RAM usage on the integrated GPU will make the laptop prone to crash on high load, is this true?
I don't have any problem when my iGPU accessed 2gb of RAM though, as it still perform relatively close to reviewers benchmark, just asking this from a newbie perspective.
This is good advice for any kind of laptop or desktop...AMD or Intel
Those graph scales are messed up... You really need to use one scale per game
As someone with the same laptop in the video (albeit the non ti rtx3050) i highly recommend you save up and buy the 3060 or the newer 4050/4060 variants as the 3050s 4gb vram is not sufficient for many games anymore, and will be even less going forward.
Common to see this issue with allocated APU ram despite a dedicated GPU on Ryzen prebuilts from HP and Dell.
Selling a laptop with single channel RAM is just wrong.
I undervolted my 3050 Ti to 875 mV and clocks are pinned to 1800 MHz all the time. Power draw doesn't exceed 60 watts and temps are great. Definitely recommend giving it a go with msi afterburner.
You're making a huge mistake friend. Set your GPU to auto - you don't need to use your dGPU on battery! Integrated GPU (which is more than enough for anything you need on battery) should be used whenever possible.
@@xslvrxslwt It is on auto lol. I actually do sometimes play games on battery and the 3050 Ti gets better perf on lower power in all cases. The laptop also lasts a bit over two hours during gaming. Even on wallpower, the undervolt just gives me consistent clocks, with no throttling and lower power, while holding better clocks.
You forgot to mention about disabling turbo boost for amd processors. It makes sure that it runs under 80C under full load. Change Processor performance boost mode from Agressive to Disabled. Helps alot, fan does not have to work super hard to keep up. Best upgrade apart from ram upgrade.
I've disable the turbo boost, and it really show some temp drop... But is it necessary to undervolt it further?
I mean, I'm already satisfied with the temp (never exceed 80c, except when rendering shader cache in TLOU), but I really wonder if undervolt will give me benefit without any string attached...
I undervolted my old Intel Laptop because the throttling is real, but I did that in XTU, which is more stable because it has full intel support, unlike these 3rd party apps
@@nickochioneantony9288 Amd laptop processor cannot be undervolted.
You used different scales for the left and the right graph, so the caparison is not visually impressing if the left one is significantly lower then the right one.
You should change your graphs, I think I know that the two little bars next to the big one are the 1% lows and the other being a variation of it, but I'm not very sure. It's kind of confusing ngl
Apparently, the bar on the far right is 0.1% low instead of 1% low.
Me with the rtx 3060 version of this laptop 🗿🍷 (which was less easy to find plus i got it on sale for $879 before taxes)
I got mine on black Friday for $479. Loving it so far
I have this exact laptop. Thanks for the tip!
Dual channel RAM makes a world of difference!
one more tip,go to lenovo vantage and oc the gpu,i almost maxed out the bar since my room is 14 C anyway
You’re a literal life saver thank you!!!!
My laptop's BIOS doesn't even have an option to change the VRAM allocation. Annoying!
Some older AMD laptops may not have it or the OEM was dumb enough to hide it from the BIOS. I had to flash a custom firmware on mine so I could lower it to 256MB from 1GB.
My dell g15 6600h with a bare bones 3050 slays this laptop. You can do more to get better fps guys...way batter.
Did you check for a mux or resizeable bar? Did you temp limit the ryzen to stop throttling? There are a few scheduling tweaks to the registry that help quite a bit. Cyberpunk can get way better fps by lowering volumetric details and fog...just that one alone boosted 10fps.
This is the same advice i did to a friend from work... he was using vega igpu so with dual channel he would have better performance.
Second would external ram be a better alternative?
You need to be careful changing that size. That is what the GPU reports its memory to be to some game executables. That's obviously not true if you look at task manager, but I've run into instances where some games won't launch at all because they don't think there's enough memory.
it is the amount of RAM links to the igpu, change it will make you have worse experience while gaming on iGPU, not on dGPU
I've had a similar issue but not with changing ram size, it's to do with fighting settings of when the system assigns the GPU. In the case of your issue you lower the gpu ram size and then the machine assigns the igpu instead of the dedicated card. Check both windows and card software settings to see if they are assigning the dedicated gpu.
noice content & info! thx B
In my opinion, shipping Ryzen based laptops with single channel memory is borderline a scam.
@UFD Tech , is it worth upgrading this laptop with 32gb of ram from already installed 16gb? I have same laptop with r7 5800h and rtx 3050ti.
16 GB is already not fully utilized while gaming. But can get stable fps if you sap it with RAM kits with good timing. but its still small factor.
I too suspect 16 GB of faster ram would be better than 32 GB of same ram. If you search, there has to be a performance review to match what you are asking. * LTT or someone has done it I'm sure. * The thing is with laptops they "can" use stupid ram like DDR3L or DDR4L SODIMM and you may be very limited in what speed you can choose, and testing found about this topic might only be applicable to desktop ram however I would be surprised if it did not scale over to the laptop ram..
@@blkspade23 Ya, well you better inform the OEM's that have a wide gambit of ram spec'd on the boards way over 3200 but of course it does not mean those boards will accept anything other than that one ram speed, a speed much higher than you provided btw.
This is really misleading. You should ALWAYS use the integrated graphics when possible (especially on battery) because of the enormous difference in the power consumption+thermals.
You buy these for gaming, not office work. (Tho you can do that too.)
Nothing about this upgrade guide disables the igp at all. And on battery outside of gaming this laptop uses the igp. Reducing the allocated framebuffer also has no real net negative affect against igp use, because the igp can still dynamically allocate memory as needed. Indeed the only scenario where having a higher static allocation to the igp matters......is in gaming, and that's something you're going to be doing on the 3050ti anyway.
This GPU can be up 85w in Lenono Vantage performance overclocking so we can play all game with high fps+
on my hp envy with an i7 and nvida mx 150 i i disable boosting on the cpu to keep it cooler and overclocked the gpu, it at least doubled the performance
*its probably gonna be a 50 buck ssd and an extra stick of ram right*
watches video
*right....*
Oi, Brett. I don't know if I've been Mandela'd but I can't find a reference to you dressed as Krillin, and I feel like I saw you doing so some years ago. I'm looking for an image of this because I reference you as Krillin in a video i'm making. Please help point me in the right direction. Thanks.
I’d like to see how it performs with 64GB ram and if at that capacity if going from 2gb to 512mb allocated to the igpu even makes a noticeable difference. And if it doesn’t, what is the difference in performance when the igpu IS being used, how noticeable is the performance difference?
32 gbs of ram would prolly be the most noticeable increase you'd see in games and having a good speed with it too of 3600 mhz max. 64 Gbs wouldn't hurt and it's nice to have overhead if you have other apps open like discord, chrome, projects open in background or rendering something, etc. DDR4 being ultra cheap i say 32/64 gbs is prolly safest option when considering outside of gaming factors.
is there a reason for the scaling of the graphs to be different for the two comparisons? it makes the improvemen look smaller
Idk why are you talking about AMD here only when it's about all laptops with dedicated GPU
I can’t seem to work out to do the same memory thing on my DELL G15 5515 Ryzen Edition
I have this laptop but with rtx 3050. From what I've learned there're different versions of these GPU's, for example 60W or 70W etc. I thought mine was 60W, not fastest version but I unlocked overclock mode in Lenovo Vantage app which gave me a lot more fps. Basically going from 60W to 80-85W. Its a difference of ~52 fps to 60 so it's definitely worth checking.
I am interested to buy laptop with r5 5600h and rtx 3050. So, how to unlock the overclock? Does it in the system?
@@jojo2767in the vantage app in performance mode there is option to enable gpu overclocking
For me its 5600h is still superior cpu than INTEL 13TH GEN due to the fact that it can give good batterylife while using single threaded Autocad.
AMDs are really power and temp efficient for last 2 years in the laptops. My R3 5300U never gets over 60°C, even when maxed out on all cores. It's an HP laptop for 300€ and the battery lasts like a week for me. I only used Autocad, Inventor and Fusion 360. I hope AMD won't stop in making these awesome CPUs.
all output to hdmi goes through the igpu which is very limited in performance. So basically this laptop is terrible I never use the 3050ti that i bought because i am not gaming on a 15 inch screen in 2023
I have upgraded my Lenovo Legion 5 (Ryzen 5 5600h, RTX 3070) to 64gb of ram :)
Can you run Starfield fluently on max settings?
I don't know, I never played it, but since it can run cyberpunk, it probably can run everything :) @@simras1234
You can buy a used asus 2022 g14 for $700-$900, which is a lot better. Of course, new is nice, and I hate the g14 anyway lol.
I have the laptop and i got excited for some fps increases, turns out the vid doesnt help at all... i already had 16gb, so ram wasnt limited, but upgrading to 32gb and dual channel slightly helped.
See if you can undervolt your cpu/gpu then. Next best thing to improver performance and thermals, since gaming laptops often get thermal throttled. Just use software like Ryzen Master and MSI Afterburner
@@matthewschneider4758 isnt throttling, stays around 80c max iirc and stays on high boost clocks
EDIT: ryzen master not supported
@@LatvianVideo sounds like you’ve achieved pretty much max performance you can with that machine then. Small tweaks (overclocking core clocks, memory, etc) may help if you have thermal headroom, but the gains will be minimal. Best thing would also be targeting lows/mins stability. If your bios supports it, you could try OC the Ram or tightening the timings, but most laptops are not going to support that their the basic Bios and motherboard selections. Also make sure your Smart Access Memory or (Resizable Bar) is enabled and if you have a Mux Switch or advanced optimus, try only using dedicated GpU and disable the integrated graphics entirely. Usually results in 5-6% gains, but will kill your battery life if you ever use it not plugged in
@@matthewschneider4758 Cant OC ram, but XMP is on at 3200 CL22. Cant change SAM or resizable bar and it doesnt have a mux switch
Those FPS graph bars are so confusing.
Great video
unfortunately if you're running an apu or integrated which wasn't shown here
you aren't going to get gains like this, you might get some but nothing like this
Dual RAM will still help, especially if you buy faster DDR4/DDR5 ones.
Does it work for the Acer nitro 5 with the same spec?
So I have an Asus ROG Zephyrus 14" with a Ryzen 7 4800HS. My ram has on slot (one soldered to the board) and it's 16gb in dual channel, but would it make sense getting say a 16gb stick to swap out the 8gb i have access to? 24gb but no the equal ram in each slot so dunno how that affects it.
GTX 1660 TI (max q variant) with 6 gb dedicated vRAM
Won't really be noticeable. Even with extra processes, everything will run Flex mode on the first 16GB of ram and only after that runs out would the last 8GB do any work. Unfortunately, that 8GB of single channel isn't going to be dedicated to the open chrome tab, unless the first 16GB is already in use when you open the tab.
I basically just did this for a friend with a Lenovo laptop just yesterday, gave her 4GB of 3200MHz RAM I had spare (I upgraded my own laptop from 2x4GB to 2x8GB not so long ago) so it was in dual channel and set the dedicated iGPU memory to 512M, because why does a whole 2GB need to be dedicated to the iGPU, the iGPU will just dip into system RAM anyway if it runs out. Its crazy how much difference dual channel memory can make, you lose so much performance being in single channel and a lot of people just don't realise it.
all of the stuff here i have alr done just without thinking about it🤣
Mine has a 1650, and i spent a grand on it three years ago?
I never bought a AMD laptop
what is the max ram speed for 5600h ? is it 2400 or 3200 ?
3200mhz
Any tips for battery usage? My new laptop giving just 2hrs of juice for youtube and software working...😭
If you have msi afterburner open, close it while on battery, it makes your gpu use more watts than it should even if you aint using it
@@ItzGarga Nah bro, didn't even install afterburner yet...
i sadly have the version with a 1650 Max-Q
Sounds like a good option to try.
Will i see any huge bumps if i upgrade my ram to 32/64 gb i have a msi bravo 15 b5dd with ryzen 5 5600h and rx5500m
no
Thanks for this video really awesome
How is that an "AMD gaming Laptop" but it has an NVIDIA gpu? You don't game with the CPU.
The iGPU in the AMD is already good for lightweight gaming, the dGPU is for heavier titles.
@@jonny11bonk I see. Thanks for the reply.
Try gaming on any machine without a CPU.
512 is still too much, i was able to set it to 32mb
I go for 2 x 32 GB :D and get the fastest 2 TB SSD
Question does anyone know if you can fit a dual 16 gb sticks in the laptop?
you can
My bios is different i dont have the options
Always FREE fps are good fps
put steam deck os. you re welcome xD
Cooling pad, higher watt vbios and overclocking the gpu.
2nd and 3rd not possibke
@@xruud24 uhh unless it's a 95 watt 3050 ti, I'm not sure, they both are possible.
Brett my man... You made an elementary mistake with the graphs auto scaling.... It's baaaaad! Wtf breh
The 3050 laptops are really great paired with a 6 core CPU from intel or amd it's the best combination for budget mobile gamers my only problem is that game developers are not optimising their games properly to run on low end cards they think everyone has a rtx 4090 also GPU companies like Nvidia not providing features like dlss3 when the hardware supports it
Does anyone sell a laptop 5600h without a dedicated graphics card? I haven't run across one yet.
İ do my rtx 3060 is burnt in one of my acer nitro im selling it but how do i ship bro lol
@@theyamo What do you want for it? I'm rock throwing distance from china and they can replace the 3060 heat gun reball. I will also be back in the US in about 2 weeks.
I have an HP, those fuckers have a shitty minimal bios.
me with 32Gb Ram big W
i am seeing this video in this laptop hehe
just buy more ram
get an external monitor and you would get more fps, because the laptop doesn't have a MUX switch.
the only flaw of this laptop is the optimus will not disable when using hdmi,i tried,you can go to lenovo vantage and OC the shit out of the rtx 3050ti
nope, i have the 3050 version and literally nothing changes with the external display
Insane
i own 1 and its true
First?
cool...
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Congratulations! You have finally accomplished something for the first time in your life
@@sukunasukana7547 thank you.
You have no idea the amount of effort it took... just to click that noti quickly enough and then to realize there were probably no other comments here yet 😭
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Use Linux ;)
No.
Everybody already has dual rank memory useless vid
Buy a pc
not everyone can afford a gaming pc bud
@@coreypasternak9435 At the same price bracket as this laptop? Yes, why can't they afford it. In fact they perform better than any gaming laptop
@@coreypasternak9435 or if something portable is needed. But building a Mini ITX isn't that bad idea too.