I find it difficult to swallow the lie that everyone is supposed to live in fear of "toxic masculinity". It's not real. I hate to see the hurt reabused by taking thier story to promote a divisive narrative meant to further alienate people. Masculinity isn't toxic and femininity is power. We used to cooperate but that actually gives us strength so ponder who it helps if we consider each other "toxic". Who wins and who looses with this logic. Think critically and wake up.
This is real the fact that you don't think it is the term invented for a woman like you is called a " pick me" for men. She didn't say masculinity was toxic she said toxic masculinity. There are things that most or part of the male population do in fact do and there are effects to this you didn't understand anything she said.
Biology has its reasons. Women don’t grow boobs “just because” so I wouldn’t trivialize body parts. This speaker is an exception to most women, not the rule.
Unless I missed something, I don't think she's talking about strict biology-class material here. She's talking about personality traits and other ways of non-physical personal being society artificially attributes to men and women.
If that's so true then how come those weak soft Scandinavian nations are tops in just about every level of human flourishing? How come the beating hearts of our high-tech industries concentrate in our least manly (read: SJW-friendly) metro areas? Why did Germany long ago reject values Americans commonly associate with "manliness"? Toxic types of masculinity are what brought war, slavery, Social Darwinism, exploitation of workers, domestic violence, abusing weak simply because they are weak or otherwise lack power to withstand rivals.
@@thelonestarpelican9343 Go read the book of proverbs! Since you sound religious! It clearly states that women's feet do not reside in their home! & will lead many men to their deaths! & women's feet do not know the path of life! Ecclesiasticus says sin was born from a women!
@@thelonestarpelican9343 Scripture also says in the end days women will become out of control like now! Scripture says THAT GOD HIS THE HEAD OF CHRIST! CHRIST IS THE HEAD OF MAN! MAN IS THE HEAD OF WOMEN.
What she said: a mass of generalizations that don't really refer to anything. What she did: paced back and forth in an animated way and talked about herself. Than gave simple banal advice based on her generalizations that don't actually refer to anything. My take away: It would be good if people who are far to sensitive to other people's opinions learn this early in life so they don't give sanctimonious talks to the general public who didn't have such a problem getting through puberty.
@闘将ダイモス No, I didn't understand what was talked about. That's my point. She said nothing of substance. Her thinking is a string of catch phrases that she's never really thought about.
@闘将ダイモス If you think she gave explicit examples then we have a much different view of explicit. There's no such thing as toxic masculinity or toxic femininity. There are behaviors generally seen as masculine or feminine. Sometimes those behaviors can be detrimental and sometimes positive depending on the situation or how they are applied. Toxic masculinity is a catch phrase in itself that few people think through in any concrete way. Generally these people use the phrase to compensate for their feelings of victimization that Lisa clearly has.
@闘将ダイモス Close but no cigar,. Quoting myself, "depending on the situation or how they are applied." Murder is toxic. Killing someone in self defense is not toxic--same behavior, different situation. There's no such thing as toxic masculinity or toxic behavior. "Toxic masculinity" is a thoughtless and meaningless catch phrase. Thinking it means something, on its own, is delusional.
Does anyone hear something...off about this speech? She claims that she wants to “liberate” men and even tells us to be secure in our identities and not bow to outside demands, which I can get behind. But then...She lists instructions for men to follow regarding using our privileges. In other words that whole section of the speech turned her point from “be yourself” to “be the self that I want you to be.” Just exchange one set of chains for a newer shinier replacement.
now explain something to me, "toxic masculinity" is not about men according to feminists, it is a way to describe certain norms in the male gender role that are harmful to the males and others right? but women can be masculine too, meaning that they can also display "toxic masculine" traits correct? soooo, where are all the women displaying "toxic masculine" traits in the Gillette ad? why is it only images of men and boys? and why aren't women also to be held accountable for "toxic masculine" traits in other women? if its a problem with the traditional gender role, something that is supported and maintained by everyone in society.
Is toxic masculinity really toxic now days . And if you believe in male masculinity for the sake of one bloodline. How do we deal with a society that's against teaching male masculinity.
Find your identity in life, because if you don't society will choose it for you. And when you find it, love what you found and don't hate others for what they found. Masculinity and femininity is beautiful and it comes in lots of different ways.. Everything starts at home, teach your kids to be themselves and strong, whoever they are and there will be no need to bully people, because it is the weak that are bullies.
I will always live by what my mother taught me. If someone is saying something you don’t like, ignore it. A bully is only looking for a reaction. Unless they are actively trying to hurt somebody then there is no point to intervene. Now if they are physically hurting someone or becoming dangerous. Then you do what you have to do to remove the victim from the vicinity of the threat or you remove the threat from the vicinity of the victim.
These gender roles just kills me. Both male and female have similar characteristics and differences at the same time. Why does either one have to be more entitled over the other. Let's just agree to disagree "I GUESS"!!!! Division Division Division.
Masculinity and femininity are both beautiful compliments to one another. The term "toxic masculinity" used to have some merit to it, but now when people use the term, they simply mean ALL masculinity. Rollo Tomassi: "We are raising a generation of boys as if they were defective girls." We should embrace and CELEBRATE masculinity, we cannot afford to make it out into something negative, Our kids need a strong father figure more than ever. We can prevent SO MANY from going to prison and turning to substance abuse/alcoholism.
To me, toxic masculinity is the belief that “all men should be this because all women are like this” it’s the grand generalizations. No one human is the same. Humans are the universes greatest art project. And no man made art project is exactly the same as another. Positive masculinity is pretty much what you believe it to be as long as your fulfilling your responsibilities and your not physically or emotionally abusing others.
Masculinity is not toxic but the exaggerations of masculinity are as is any exaggeration, and I suspect the exaggeration of feminism is hurting Hollywood and society. And women, the same way "machismo" hurts men.
Women: he is so handsome! So masculine! And he earn a million a month! Go approach the guy. That Man: sorry I have a gf. Women: how dare you reject me! Another average man: hi Women: go away! So toxic!
This was a great talk. Her discussion of her personal story provided insight, and her recommendations to men were excellent - I personally found them to be concise and helpful.
Dan Winter I’m sorry but no, no it really is a pretty atrocious talk. I mean that objectively; regardless of whether or not one agrees with her message. The speaker spends most of the talk advocating a message of freedom from rigid inflexible roles for men and then proceeds to corrupt her own message by creating “guidelines” for how men should behave now that they are “free”. But they aren’t free. She just wants men to act according to what she believes is acceptable and good, which happens to include being the advocates and protectors of women and non-straight or other social minorities. At best she comes off as bumbling and oblivious to her mistake and at worst, she seems self serving and manipulative.
The old toxic masculinity is being gradually replaced by more balanced men, toxic masculinity literally means too much masculinity, not balanced by feminity, it is a severe lack of balance which manifests in the center of a being, in the heart, just by looking at our ancestors speaks for itself, the younger generations of kids are showing a bright look at our future. The so-called real man that some describe is usually severely toxic, just masking that whole incapability to receive, to accept, to open up, all these qualities of divine feminine that are necessary. Many men are already healing from this toxicity that is often stored in our acestral trauma deep within our psyche, the masculinity is being radically re-defined and transformed so that the extreme gap between men and women would be reduced and narrowed down. Man and woman themselves will soon to be a thing of the past of course, as we will be transforming into androgynous hermaphroditic species as we used to be in our ancient past, but it wont happen overnight, we need to work on that evolutionary shift first.
What gets me is we are constantly telling men they need grow facial hair and have a need to shave. I saw a man buying razors in a store and I yelled at him "Stop growing facial hair. The idea that men need to shave is part of patriarchy."
Do you mean to keep growing facial hair? You cant just stop growing it...men need to shave so they don't look like they live under a rock all the time. Really just be well kempt. If you want a beard and mustache just trim it so you look like you care about yourself
There’s no such thing as toxic masculinity. There are only toxic people. All those traits/characteristics defined as “toxic masculinity” are normal masculinity…
I find it difficult to swallow the lie that everyone is supposed to live in fear of "toxic masculinity". It's not real. I hate to see the hurt reabused by taking thier story to promote a divisive narrative meant to further alienate people. Masculinity isn't toxic and femininity is power. We used to cooperate but that actually gives us strength so ponder who it helps if we consider each other "toxic". Who wins and who looses with this logic. Think critically and wake up.
Femininity is toxic.
if this is you " awake" go back to sleep
@Kishan Singh agreed
It's not that masculinity is toxic, but the form of masculinity pushed by many modern societies is toxic, thus "Toxic Masculinity."
This is real the fact that you don't think it is the term invented for a woman like you is called a " pick me" for men. She didn't say masculinity was toxic she said toxic masculinity. There are things that most or part of the male population do in fact do and there are effects to this you didn't understand anything she said.
Biology has its reasons. Women don’t grow boobs “just because” so I wouldn’t trivialize body parts.
This speaker is an exception to most women, not the rule.
Unless I missed something, I don't think she's talking about strict biology-class material here. She's talking about personality traits and other ways of non-physical personal being society artificially attributes to men and women.
What she was describing seems more like toxic behaviour than toxic masculinity
What world does this silly WOMAN live in??
Looks Like You're Toxic To Me.
@@scottywilson9607 And you per sitting down
how a woman speak about toxic masculinity
Just remeber that this “toxic masculinity” built the society you feel strong and independent in
If that's so true then how come those weak soft Scandinavian nations are tops in just about every level of human flourishing? How come the beating hearts of our high-tech industries concentrate in our least manly (read: SJW-friendly) metro areas? Why did Germany long ago reject values Americans commonly associate with "manliness"? Toxic types of masculinity are what brought war, slavery, Social Darwinism, exploitation of workers, domestic violence, abusing weak simply because they are weak or otherwise lack power to withstand rivals.
They never mention MISANDRY.
@@thelonestarpelican9343 God brought war!
@@thelonestarpelican9343 Go read the book of proverbs! Since you sound religious! It clearly states that women's feet do not reside in their home! & will lead many men to their deaths! & women's feet do not know the path of life!
Ecclesiasticus says sin was born from a women!
@@thelonestarpelican9343 Scripture also says in the end days women will become out of control like now! Scripture says THAT GOD HIS THE HEAD OF CHRIST! CHRIST IS THE HEAD OF MAN! MAN IS THE HEAD OF WOMEN.
I find the term man-splain offensive and sexist as a male. Report it at the 4:12 mark if you agree.
you need to edit the title to "The unfortunate effect of TOXIC FEMINISM." by radical liberals who are confused themselves.
From a very masculine writer: "The sail was patched with flour sacks and, furled, it looked like the flag of permanent defeat . . . "
Really She gonna teach me How to be a Man🤦🏾♂️ WTF is Going on
Glad to see so many dislikes, we see through the BS thus the future is safe so chill :)
We need to put all these people in the state of California and break it off from the country! Let them be there own country and protect our future!
Biology, psychology and 100's and thousands of years of human cultural development says you are wrong.
But by all means continue.....
She’s clearly wrong 😂
How the heck she became a professor and earning $150 k a year. She is insufferable.
She's talking about "lack of masculinity" not toxic masculinity.
What she said: a mass of generalizations that don't really refer to anything.
What she did: paced back and forth in an animated way and talked about herself. Than gave simple banal advice based on her generalizations that don't actually refer to anything.
My take away: It would be good if people who are far to sensitive to other people's opinions learn this early in life so they don't give sanctimonious talks to the general public who didn't have such a problem getting through puberty.
@闘将ダイモス No, I didn't understand what was talked about. That's my point. She said nothing of substance. Her thinking is a string of catch phrases that she's never really thought about.
@闘将ダイモス If you think she gave explicit examples then we have a much different view of explicit.
There's no such thing as toxic masculinity or toxic femininity.
There are behaviors generally seen as masculine or feminine. Sometimes those behaviors can be detrimental and sometimes positive depending on the situation or how they are applied. Toxic masculinity is a catch phrase in itself that few people think through in any concrete way. Generally these people use the phrase to compensate for their feelings of victimization that Lisa clearly has.
@闘将ダイモス Close but no cigar,. Quoting myself, "depending on the situation or how they are applied."
Murder is toxic. Killing someone in self defense is not toxic--same behavior, different situation.
There's no such thing as toxic masculinity or toxic behavior. "Toxic masculinity" is a thoughtless and meaningless catch phrase. Thinking it means something, on its own, is delusional.
Sir, you are clearly not toxic.
Does anyone hear something...off about this speech? She claims that she wants to “liberate” men and even tells us to be secure in our identities and not bow to outside demands, which I can get behind. But then...She lists instructions for men to follow regarding using our privileges.
In other words that whole section of the speech turned her point from “be yourself” to “be the self that I want you to be.” Just exchange one set of chains for a newer shinier replacement.
now explain something to me, "toxic masculinity" is not about men according to feminists, it is a way to describe certain norms in the male gender role that are harmful to the males and others right? but women can be masculine too, meaning that they can also display "toxic masculine" traits correct? soooo, where are all the women displaying "toxic masculine" traits in the Gillette ad? why is it only images of men and boys? and why aren't women also to be held accountable for "toxic masculine" traits in other women? if its a problem with the traditional gender role, something that is supported and maintained by everyone in society.
I hope never to be equal to this nauseating person.
Is toxic masculinity really toxic now days . And if you believe in male masculinity for the sake of one bloodline. How do we deal with a society that's against teaching male masculinity.
What the ...
She definitely is not all there.
Sounds like a lot of self hatred to me. Some women hate being women and vice versa
I do not recognize the world we are living in anymore...
Fk it,let’s go bowling,Dude.
Why is a woman teaching us about the effects of toxic masculinity?
We’re supposed to care. She started talking and I zoned her out
Find your identity in life, because if you don't society will choose it for you. And when you find it, love what you found and don't hate others for what they found. Masculinity and femininity is beautiful and it comes in lots of different ways.. Everything starts at home, teach your kids to be themselves and strong, whoever they are and there will be no need to bully people, because it is the weak that are bullies.
I will always live by what my mother taught me. If someone is saying something you don’t like, ignore it. A bully is only looking for a reaction. Unless they are actively trying to hurt somebody then there is no point to intervene. Now if they are physically hurting someone or becoming dangerous. Then you do what you have to do to remove the victim from the vicinity of the threat or you remove the threat from the vicinity of the victim.
These gender roles just kills me. Both male and female have similar characteristics and differences at the same time. Why does either one have to be more entitled over the other. Let's just agree to disagree "I GUESS"!!!! Division Division Division.
Masculinity and femininity are both beautiful compliments to one another. The term "toxic masculinity" used to have some merit to it, but now when people use the term, they simply mean ALL masculinity.
Rollo Tomassi: "We are raising a generation of boys as if they were defective girls."
We should embrace and CELEBRATE masculinity, we cannot afford to make it out into something negative, Our kids need a strong father figure more than ever. We can prevent SO MANY from going to prison and turning to substance abuse/alcoholism.
To me, toxic masculinity is the belief that “all men should be this because all women are like this” it’s the grand generalizations. No one human is the same. Humans are the universes greatest art project. And no man made art project is exactly the same as another. Positive masculinity is pretty much what you believe it to be as long as your fulfilling your responsibilities and your not physically or emotionally abusing others.
Masculinity is not toxic but the exaggerations of masculinity are as is any exaggeration, and I suspect the exaggeration of feminism is hurting Hollywood and society. And women, the same way "machismo" hurts men.
Men have options. Masculinity or democrat. Worked for Obama
Women: he is so handsome! So masculine! And he earn a million a month! Go approach the guy.
That Man: sorry I have a gf.
Women: how dare you reject me!
Another average man: hi
Women: go away! So toxic!
This was a great talk. Her discussion of her personal story provided insight, and her recommendations to men were excellent - I personally found them to be concise and helpful.
Dan Winter I’m sorry but no, no it really is a pretty atrocious talk. I mean that objectively; regardless of whether or not one agrees with her message.
The speaker spends most of the talk advocating a message of freedom from rigid inflexible roles for men and then proceeds to corrupt her own message by creating “guidelines” for how men should behave now that they are “free”.
But they aren’t free. She just wants men to act according to what she believes is acceptable and good, which happens to include being the advocates and protectors of women and non-straight or other social minorities.
At best she comes off as bumbling and oblivious to her mistake and at worst, she seems self serving and manipulative.
Masculinity was ok when it came to paving roads little did we know those roads would be using to drive us nuts.
Bullies hurting bullies so let it happen to them .
I really hate how all of the comments are very negative about this please stop writing negative comments that are so rude
awkward band kid
then stop womansplaining
Did you not think the ted talk itself wasnt rude? really? is that how inconsiderate women are these days? thats so pathetic
This is what happens when people forget and stop valuing what God values.
The old toxic masculinity is being gradually replaced by more balanced men, toxic masculinity literally means too much masculinity, not balanced by feminity, it is a severe lack of balance which manifests in the center of a being, in the heart, just by looking at our ancestors speaks for itself, the younger generations of kids are showing a bright look at our future. The so-called real man that some describe is usually severely toxic, just masking that whole incapability to receive, to accept, to open up, all these qualities of divine feminine that are necessary. Many men are already healing from this toxicity that is often stored in our acestral trauma deep within our psyche, the masculinity is being radically re-defined and transformed so that the extreme gap between men and women would be reduced and narrowed down. Man and woman themselves will soon to be a thing of the past of course, as we will be transforming into androgynous hermaphroditic species as we used to be in our ancient past, but it wont happen overnight, we need to work on that evolutionary shift first.
Keep feminizing your men. Something must bring an empire down...
Men don't need femininity
Women can have that.
What in the whay
wow after watching this entire thing I was 'surprised' to learn that everything she said was a lie...
She talks about equality but all she is doing is attacking feminine women and masculine men because she doesn't fit in either category.
lol! What!??!?
This crazy lady wants to be a guy, I don't know why she's stopping herself and blaming it on other people
If ya man’s not tryna talk to you no more in not because of toxic masculinity you just a bad look, I understand this well I was a bad look
men and women are not the same, therefore not equal.
Toxic people are classified as cluster b personality types look it up you should understand narcissism .
Great speech.
What gets me is we are constantly telling men they need grow facial hair and have a need to shave. I saw a man buying razors in a store and I yelled at him "Stop growing facial hair. The idea that men need to shave is part of patriarchy."
Do you mean to keep growing facial hair? You cant just stop growing it...men need to shave so they don't look like they live under a rock all the time. Really just be well kempt. If you want a beard and mustache just trim it so you look like you care about yourself
@@Mrmghz1
I was being sarcastic. A lot of the things they call toxic masculinity are things men can't help not doing.
There’s no such thing as toxic masculinity. There are only toxic people. All those traits/characteristics defined as “toxic masculinity” are normal masculinity…
why are these women never attractive
Bingo
this video has more claptrap, socio-babble and rubbish than I've ever heard in 14: 28.
This is so sad This such a deception. Some good points. But over all not good
Get me a sammich.
She talks like the dark knight joker lmfaoo
🤢🤮
Lol
My therapist told me a lot of this. I hate being a male . I don't fit into masculine gender roles
WELP...This was boring
the 900 views are from the people in that studio audience lmao
A woman talk about how to be a man.
Right bro,tf she? 😂
Wacked broads today
Do people actually get paid to babble like this for 15 minutes?
Good video.
Николай KolyaMart Мартьянов L
Blyattmir Putin will be ashamed of you🤣
More sexism.
Lies, lies, lies
She needs a man,that’s all this is.
I support feminism, women can be shirtless at playground if they want. I would be glad to support that.
(Lemme take my phone out for a pic)