This is my favourite Hunger Games film, and the book is my favourite of the series too. As you touched upon, I think it feels more realistic and less futuristic than the original trilogy, and I thought it ended very poetically, adding another layer to the original books/films
Sejanus was such an interesting character in the book. He actually comes off as kind of overbearing in his convictions and a bit annoying, but that might just be because that's how Snow sees him and Suzanne Collins does a phenomenal job manipulating how you think. Yeah, Sejanus is kinda dumb. In fact, in the book, the Plinth Prize is actually something that was created by Sejanus' dad after he broke into the arena to try and clear the Plinth name and take attention away from Sejanus. It served as an extra motivation for Snow to help Lucy Gray win, and not the initial motivation. Anyway, I think Sejanus is a big reality checkpoint in the book to serve as a reminder that he is district, the type of person we root for in the original trilogy, which is honestly a bit hard to do with Snow's negative internal commentary about the districts. I think he was portrayed pretty well in the movie, but I would have liked to see more of his book scenes.
Sejanus comes across more sympathetic in the book, especially because he’s so likable, but when you list out his actions like that he does sound pretty terrible.
But his actions had good meaning to them he wanted a revolution so that all of these people wouldn't live in poverty and keep dying. I don't feel sympathy for Snow he betrays his friend and girlfriend in a matter of a few weeks.
@@Sproutgoodnight1161Plus we gotta remember that he’s just a sheltered rich teenager who trying to do something good, of course he wouldn’t have the life experience to know that he would need to go about it in a more nuanced way rather than the brash way he does
After I watched The Ballad of Songbirds & Snakes they should give this series the TV series reboot treatment as Harry Potter and Twlight to stream on Netflix and for as fans to spend time each season in the Hunger Games battles and follow the different characters both in the Capital and the Districts to go full mature with the violence and killing and that my friends would be a TV series we would actually like.
I thought it was great too, the realism made it feel darker than the originals. The opening to the hunger games was particularly shocking and brutal - none of the high-tech lift tubes/giant dome forcefield , just people being dragged into a small arena and told they would be shot if they tried to escape. Its interesting that the hunger games used to be a fairly minor thing in the capitol too - people didn't really watch it. And it now makes sense why it became such a big thing with Snow as president. Usually prequels tend to not really add much to the original, but this actually felt like valuable insight/backstory.
I haven't read the book in a little while, but I *did* read it, and I think the movie stays very true to the source material- as the other movies did. I love the costumes, how gritty the Hunger Games is (especially since it was before they were considered a whole spectacle), the performances of the actors... the sets threw me off a tad because its not yknow. The 1900s. But it still looked good! I enjoyed it a lot
I saw it and it was pretty good :^ at the end when someone said “snow always lands on top” (I forgot his name) then a guy in my theatre went “HAHA” it made me laugh so hard :’)
I think the movie was really good but as always the book is so much better especially the characters and their dynamics. I think it was A LOT more book accurate than the original movies
I wish this was a two parter. I liked this film but I felt as if quite a few plot points were skimmed over. Basically the movie trimmed down the book to the bare bones of the story. I wanted to see more. Since the movie was so long, and coming off the back of the previous movies cause it’s Hunger Games, I would’ve liked that gamble to have been taken.
I loved the movie, and I've already seen it twice. That said, I do have some issues. SPOILERS They totally eliminated Clemensia Dovecoat after the snake bite. Nothing about her scales, or anything else. In the book, Reaper was a really good guy, even apologizing to the other tributes for having to kill them. They showed this a little when Dill died, but not much else. In the book, the drones generally worked! Having them all malfunction went against the original novel. Peter Dinklage was great, but I can't imagine Crassus Snow being best friends with a dwarf. I did not like Commander Hoff. In the books, he seemed like a decent guy. In the movie, he comes across more like a Nazi. I hate when they make a movie into two parts, but I have no problem if a movie is going to be four hours long. Titanic was almost three and a half. They could've made the movie half an hour longer, and made it better in the process. Coral seemed rather chubby, for a girl from the districts, even if District 4 was favored by the Capitol. They largely ignored most of The Covey. Clerk Carmine had one word, and Barb Azure and Tam Amber didn't have a single line, either of them. Also, they overdid the "pack" thing. It did not reflect the book. And I think there should've been more music and singing! But it was still pretty awesome!
I think Suzanne focuses more on class discrimination in her books than physical discrimination, so I’m assuming being a dwarf isn’t really a problem as long as you’re from the Capital
When reading the books, when I read about Dean Highbottom, one of the first things that came to my mind was the Doctor in the Third Walking Dead Game from telltale. A drug-addict, lanky, passive and hollow - the only thing reviving him is the idea of making Crassus Snows son pay. Peter Dinklage was an interesting idea here, similar to some of the cast in the hunger games movies - they were movie versions; kinda like PJ movies and books and the HP movies and books, where some of the cast works brilliantly and some do fine as their own version. I also thought of Professor Gaul as a version similar to DocOck from Into the Spiderverse. Someone highly intelligent who treats everything as a game, is sadistic and sane while coming off as mad. Viola Davis came off as someone who had a sound mind the entire time, but was actually morally insane. Not completely, but enjoying herself and her power.
The score was forgettable!??? lol James Newton Howard SHINES! ☀️ Not to mention the songwriter from A Star Is Born writing Lucy Grey’s original music love love love ❤
10/10 movie in my opinion I was skeptical at first bc ppl said it wasn’t good but watch it for yourself I love protagonist you’re not supposed to root for
Sejanus HATED that his father made his fortune and moved the family to the Capitol, abandoning their district and his friends there. He has a MUCH bigger role in the book and he is secretly reviled by Snow, as we learn from hearing Snow's thoughts in 3rd person. He befriends Snow, probably bc he sees Snow, the real Snow-struggling, hungry but a bright and enthusiastic teenager. Probably reminded him of good friends he was torn from and forced to live in a new place where the views of District folk were that they were subhuman, necessary evils to produce all goods the Capitol needs, but disposable, dispensable and barely worthy of life. The District ppl were scum-there for whatever the Capitol wanted-be it entertainment from the Hunger Games, sex, secrets, work/slave labor- let's just say: he struggled daily with how to go on living in SUCH a despicable place (in his mind. We know the Capitol child be considered by many to be THE place to live in this new world) Sejanus' mother plays a much bigger role in the book as well. She understands her son and wants to help him. She realizes he's borderline suicidal and she fosters the friendship between Coryio and her son and is always sending him food through Sejanus. She sees Snow as a way to save her son, not only from the game arena but in daily life. Sejanus cared about people. All people. He hated war and he hated his father for profiting from war, but he realized that the Districts needed a rebellion-they had to keep fighting for their independence from the Capitol so he was always scheming to help the rebels. He followed Snow to District 12 so he could help his friend and provide him food sent by Ma. He could have gone anywhere after graduation but he made sure to have Snow's back when he was punished and sent to 12. Plus, he could network with the rebels, but his main objective was to protect Snow. The book points out that Snow still doesn't care for Sejanus like a true friend would-he uses him for the things his ma sends to trade or bribe others so he could sneak to see Lucy Gray perform. You start to see Snow realizing that Sejanus is working with rebels and becoming a liability to hang around with-Snow starts seeing the world through a different lens and reality starts becoming distorted and he starts to distrust everyone, including Lucy Gray. Snow lands on top, so we never quite see whether he lost his damned mind at 19, or was he correct in believing that no one could truly be trusted? Lucy Gray becomes the ghost in the poem that haunts him until his dying moment. Sejanus' character was the voice of reason trying to help Snow navigate his warped world, but his life and objectives in regards to Snow were cut short thanks to Snow's selfish, narcissistic behaviors starting to manifest. Senajus' life was cut short bc Snow only cared about one thing: SNOW LANDS ON TOP. He would betray anyone and twist, manipulate to ensure he lived his father's mantra bc in his mind, Snow was the best and you did whatever you had to to ensure Snow always landed on top.
I’ve never read or watched The Hunger Games but maybe one day. I can’t say I’ve never been interested. Plus I’ve played that Hunger Games simulator a few times (who hasn’t, really?). Also, a wild Merphy Napier appeared lol
I’m not sure if you mean this - but Rachel made herself unpopular with how she’s promoted her upcoming live action Snow White film. I don’t think she’s helped herself but she was amazing in this film and is very talented so I don’t get the drama either
She basically just slandered the original Snow White cartoon, did the whole “she won’t be waiting for a prince to save her” and has just made herself look like an arsehole 🤣 look it up there’s loads of clips haha but as I say she did really well in this movie so 😅
you said "show me the dead and violence" but i think they actually did that badly, they removed all the violence that happened in the books -- they showed NO BLOOD whatsoever so some scenes looked super fake or comical (e.g. when the capitol girl was killed by that glass bottle in the throat, looked terrible). I think they did that better in the OG hunger games. Also there was one explosion scene (when the rebels bombed the arena) that looked so so SO cheap CGI and acting wise. I did enjoy the movie, i just think there was a bunch of things they couldve done better considering their budget
Sillk Jynus is implied to be gay in the bar and have a crush not only on snow but he used to date or have a crush on Marcus the district 2 male tribute. I don’t know why they seem to have gotten rid of the underlying w queer beats for the film but they do. But they do, but they do they do.
I don’t remember Sejanus having any sort of previous relationship with Marcus, besides being in the same school class. Do you have quotes that imply that they dated?
@@ludmilamaiolini6811 it’s just how he simps over him In general when he’s remembering about the incident when they were younger, most of my fellow gay friends all had a kind of “ah that was me at 1 point” kinda experience. And then the movie did the same shot with him and snow and Lucy in snow on back to back nights.
@@liamroberts2576 Interesting. That would add another layer to the characters. I always imagined that Sejanus just had emotions running high because of his problems with the Capital
Not really... he says in the books that they were classmates and they never really hung out. If anything his friendship with Snow is way more queer coded then with Marcus, but even then it requires a headcanon cuz in the book it never even hints at any romantic feelings
THe BEST hunger games film? insane lol. Oh you were being serious. Ok I didn't hate this film like others have. I mean if you've read the book you pretty much get what you expect, but the best film? Really? Although yeah, lucy gray's singing was phenomenal and I kinda wished that was teh kind of sining her saw katniss sing. or rather heard. come on, you seriously telling me they couldn't just use someone to sing over her?
It's not. It was completely unnecessary, and brought nothing new to the table. The constant "winking" at the audience with the stupid songs got irritating too.
Sorry but it’s the worst of them. I was exited because I loved the other movies. And despite Rachel Zegler I wanted to like it. But the truth is the movie is no good. You can see it at the box office too.
@@Albtraumgirl If you want people to respect your opinion then you should show the same respect to others. Otherwise, if you say something with condescension, expect condescension back.
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This is my favourite Hunger Games film, and the book is my favourite of the series too. As you touched upon, I think it feels more realistic and less futuristic than the original trilogy, and I thought it ended very poetically, adding another layer to the original books/films
Sejanus was such an interesting character in the book. He actually comes off as kind of overbearing in his convictions and a bit annoying, but that might just be because that's how Snow sees him and Suzanne Collins does a phenomenal job manipulating how you think. Yeah, Sejanus is kinda dumb. In fact, in the book, the Plinth Prize is actually something that was created by Sejanus' dad after he broke into the arena to try and clear the Plinth name and take attention away from Sejanus. It served as an extra motivation for Snow to help Lucy Gray win, and not the initial motivation. Anyway, I think Sejanus is a big reality checkpoint in the book to serve as a reminder that he is district, the type of person we root for in the original trilogy, which is honestly a bit hard to do with Snow's negative internal commentary about the districts. I think he was portrayed pretty well in the movie, but I would have liked to see more of his book scenes.
You mean his matchmaker scenes?
@@mariannaortiz2426 any scenes, really. Just more Sejanus, please.
64 YEARS LATER
Katniss: Exists
Snow: Triggered.
Wait till he hears the song
Francis said that there is a 3h40min cut of the movie HE NEEDS to release that one,im a fan of the book as well and i just need more
Oh what? Petition to see the extended cut ❤😭
Yes please I’ll sign whatever petition you make
Sejanus comes across more sympathetic in the book, especially because he’s so likable, but when you list out his actions like that he does sound pretty terrible.
But his actions had good meaning to them he wanted a revolution so that all of these people wouldn't live in poverty and keep dying. I don't feel sympathy for Snow he betrays his friend and girlfriend in a matter of a few weeks.
@@Sproutgoodnight1161Plus we gotta remember that he’s just a sheltered rich teenager who trying to do something good, of course he wouldn’t have the life experience to know that he would need to go about it in a more nuanced way rather than the brash way he does
After I watched The Ballad of Songbirds & Snakes they should give this series the TV series reboot treatment as Harry Potter and Twlight to stream on Netflix and for as fans to spend time each season in the Hunger Games battles and follow the different characters both in the Capital and the Districts to go full mature with the violence and killing and that my friends would be a TV series we would actually like.
I thought it was great too, the realism made it feel darker than the originals. The opening to the hunger games was particularly shocking and brutal - none of the high-tech lift tubes/giant dome forcefield , just people being dragged into a small arena and told they would be shot if they tried to escape. Its interesting that the hunger games used to be a fairly minor thing in the capitol too - people didn't really watch it. And it now makes sense why it became such a big thing with Snow as president. Usually prequels tend to not really add much to the original, but this actually felt like valuable insight/backstory.
I liked how much more raw it felt. The story overall was much easier to suspend my disbelief for.
I honestly think this movie deserves every praise it gets, very well done.
I haven't read the book in a little while, but I *did* read it, and I think the movie stays very true to the source material- as the other movies did. I love the costumes, how gritty the Hunger Games is (especially since it was before they were considered a whole spectacle), the performances of the actors... the sets threw me off a tad because its not yknow. The 1900s. But it still looked good! I enjoyed it a lot
I saw it and it was pretty good :^ at the end when someone said “snow always lands on top” (I forgot his name) then a guy in my theatre went “HAHA” it made me laugh so hard :’)
I am really glad that you made this video. This was my favorite Hunger Games movie as well and I know there aren't many people agree with me.
I’ve seen this movie 3 times already and will be seeing it a 4th time soon. Definitely the best movie in the series
Same! I saw it by myself three times in a week😂
How much does a movie ticket cost where you live?
@@allisso it cost 15$ but i have regal unlimited which is 20$ a month so I can go 100 times and not pay anything
Sejanus's demise sure as hell poetically rhymes his namesake's end.
Explanation?
@@z2ynsejanus is based on a Roman soldier who was executed for a supposed plot to overthrow the emperor.
The casting was well done. Rachrl Zegler's performance was great!
A really good film! They did rush the romance and part 3 a bit so maybe they could release an extended version
Awesome as always thanks love the hunger games and always will
I think the movie was really good but as always the book is so much better especially the characters and their dynamics. I think it was A LOT more book accurate than the original movies
I wish this was a two parter. I liked this film but I felt as if quite a few plot points were skimmed over. Basically the movie trimmed down the book to the bare bones of the story. I wanted to see more. Since the movie was so long, and coming off the back of the previous movies cause it’s Hunger Games, I would’ve liked that gamble to have been taken.
I really love this film
I loved the movie, and I've already seen it twice. That said, I do have some issues.
SPOILERS
They totally eliminated Clemensia Dovecoat after the snake bite. Nothing about her scales, or anything else.
In the book, Reaper was a really good guy, even apologizing to the other tributes for having to kill them. They showed this a little when Dill died, but not much else.
In the book, the drones generally worked! Having them all malfunction went against the original novel.
Peter Dinklage was great, but I can't imagine Crassus Snow being best friends with a dwarf.
I did not like Commander Hoff. In the books, he seemed like a decent guy. In the movie, he comes across more like a Nazi.
I hate when they make a movie into two parts, but I have no problem if a movie is going to be four hours long. Titanic was almost three and a half. They could've made the movie half an hour longer, and made it better in the process.
Coral seemed rather chubby, for a girl from the districts, even if District 4 was favored by the Capitol.
They largely ignored most of The Covey. Clerk Carmine had one word, and Barb Azure and Tam Amber didn't have a single line, either of them.
Also, they overdid the "pack" thing. It did not reflect the book.
And I think there should've been more music and singing!
But it was still pretty awesome!
It could be that he was a dwarve that crassus even dared to use his ideas without any kind of agreement between the two 🤷🏻♀️
I think Suzanne focuses more on class discrimination in her books than physical discrimination, so I’m assuming being a dwarf isn’t really a problem as long as you’re from the Capital
@@ina7107 That may be exactly right. However, I just get the idea that Crassus Snow was the kind of person who hated anybody different.
When reading the books, when I read about Dean Highbottom, one of the first things that came to my mind was the Doctor in the Third Walking Dead Game from telltale.
A drug-addict, lanky, passive and hollow - the only thing reviving him is the idea of making Crassus Snows son pay.
Peter Dinklage was an interesting idea here, similar to some of the cast in the hunger games movies - they were movie versions; kinda like PJ movies and books and the HP movies and books, where some of the cast works brilliantly and some do fine as their own version.
I also thought of Professor Gaul as a version similar to DocOck from Into the Spiderverse. Someone highly intelligent who treats everything as a game, is sadistic and sane while coming off as mad.
Viola Davis came off as someone who had a sound mind the entire time, but was actually morally insane. Not completely, but enjoying herself and her power.
I read the book before and saw the film opening weekend. I thought it was a wonderful adaptation.
The old hunger game arena is more faithful to the idea of gladiators in the colosseum
The score was forgettable!??? lol James Newton Howard SHINES! ☀️ Not to mention the songwriter from A Star Is Born writing Lucy Grey’s original music love love love ❤
10/10 movie in my opinion I was skeptical at first bc ppl said it wasn’t good but watch it for yourself I love protagonist you’re not supposed to root for
5:27 Tutu 🤣
Sejanus HATED that his father made his fortune and moved the family to the Capitol, abandoning their district and his friends there.
He has a MUCH bigger role in the book and he is secretly reviled by Snow, as we learn from hearing Snow's thoughts in 3rd person. He befriends Snow, probably bc he sees Snow, the real Snow-struggling, hungry but a bright and enthusiastic teenager. Probably reminded him of good friends he was torn from and forced to live in a new place where the views of District folk were that they were subhuman, necessary evils to produce all goods the Capitol needs, but disposable, dispensable and barely worthy of life. The District ppl were scum-there for whatever the Capitol wanted-be it entertainment from the Hunger Games, sex, secrets, work/slave labor- let's just say: he struggled daily with how to go on living in SUCH a despicable place (in his mind. We know the Capitol child be considered by many to be THE place to live in this new world)
Sejanus' mother plays a much bigger role in the book as well. She understands her son and wants to help him. She realizes he's borderline suicidal and she fosters the friendship between Coryio and her son and is always sending him food through Sejanus. She sees Snow as a way to save her son, not only from the game arena but in daily life.
Sejanus cared about people. All people. He hated war and he hated his father for profiting from war, but he realized that the Districts needed a rebellion-they had to keep fighting for their independence from the Capitol so he was always scheming to help the rebels.
He followed Snow to District 12 so he could help his friend and provide him food sent by Ma. He could have gone anywhere after graduation but he made sure to have Snow's back when he was punished and sent to 12. Plus, he could network with the rebels, but his main objective was to protect Snow. The book points out that Snow still doesn't care for Sejanus like a true friend would-he uses him for the things his ma sends to trade or bribe others so he could sneak to see Lucy Gray perform. You start to see Snow realizing that Sejanus is working with rebels and becoming a liability to hang around with-Snow starts seeing the world through a different lens and reality starts becoming distorted and he starts to distrust everyone, including Lucy Gray. Snow lands on top, so we never quite see whether he lost his damned mind at 19, or was he correct in believing that no one could truly be trusted? Lucy Gray becomes the ghost in the poem that haunts him until his dying moment. Sejanus' character was the voice of reason trying to help Snow navigate his warped world, but his life and objectives in regards to Snow were cut short thanks to Snow's selfish, narcissistic behaviors starting to manifest. Senajus' life was cut short bc Snow only cared about one thing: SNOW LANDS ON TOP. He would betray anyone and twist, manipulate to ensure he lived his father's mantra bc in his mind, Snow was the best and you did whatever you had to to ensure Snow always landed on top.
Loved the movie! Will watch it again!🥰🥰🥰🥰
I never seen the hunger games before this is my first one and I love it is a masterpiece I love it
I love when fans have different opinions than the general public. It’s so heartwarming
I particularly enjoyed this movie! It is a great adaptation and has many great changes from the book.
I was pleasantly surprised that they showed the guy harvesting meat from a woman's corpse. I thought that'd be cut for sure
Still waiting for a show. We now have a beginning and end. Let’s start getting all the in between on HBO Max or Prime so we can see all the violence!
How can you even compare it to Catching Fire
I loved the movie
I’ve never read or watched The Hunger Games but maybe one day. I can’t say I’ve never been interested. Plus I’ve played that Hunger Games simulator a few times (who hasn’t, really?). Also, a wild Merphy Napier appeared lol
8:38 interesting
I liked it way more than expected
I'm still trying to figure out what was all the drama with Rachel... Anybody?
I’m not sure if you mean this - but Rachel made herself unpopular with how she’s promoted her upcoming live action Snow White film. I don’t think she’s helped herself but she was amazing in this film and is very talented so I don’t get the drama either
@@BB-eg2nb I do mean it xD I had no clue about happened
How did she promote it?
She basically just slandered the original Snow White cartoon, did the whole “she won’t be waiting for a prince to save her” and has just made herself look like an arsehole 🤣 look it up there’s loads of clips haha but as I say she did really well in this movie so 😅
you said "show me the dead and violence" but i think they actually did that badly, they removed all the violence that happened in the books -- they showed NO BLOOD whatsoever so some scenes looked super fake or comical (e.g. when the capitol girl was killed by that glass bottle in the throat, looked terrible). I think they did that better in the OG hunger games. Also there was one explosion scene (when the rebels bombed the arena) that looked so so SO cheap CGI and acting wise.
I did enjoy the movie, i just think there was a bunch of things they couldve done better considering their budget
I even like the grim Soviet /that seventies show
*stylization
Sillk Jynus is implied to be gay in the bar and have a crush not only on snow but he used to date or have a crush on Marcus the district 2 male tribute. I don’t know why they seem to have gotten rid of the underlying w queer beats for the film but they do. But they do, but they do they do.
I don’t remember Sejanus having any sort of previous relationship with Marcus, besides being in the same school class. Do you have quotes that imply that they dated?
@@ludmilamaiolini6811 it’s just how he simps over him In general when he’s remembering about the incident when they were younger, most of my fellow gay friends all had a kind of “ah that was me at 1 point” kinda experience. And then the movie did the same shot with him and snow and Lucy in snow on back to back nights.
@@liamroberts2576 Interesting. That would add another layer to the characters. I always imagined that Sejanus just had emotions running high because of his problems with the Capital
Not really... he says in the books that they were classmates and they never really hung out. If anything his friendship with Snow is way more queer coded then with Marcus, but even then it requires a headcanon cuz in the book it never even hints at any romantic feelings
it made 46M this weekend internationally,im very happy abt it,people are just not going as much to the cinema anymore
is hard pastime , when i go with a family of 3 it cost about $100.00 between snacks and tickets ..
"people are just not going as much to the cinema anymore" tell that to to super Mario bros and barbie
Dr. Gaul is the true villain of the series
Okay but the actual Hunger Games in this movie could of had better action or brutality scenes. It was boring except for the drone scene
If you liked the movie, read the book it's way better
BFFR.
I think not; It and Mockingjay ruined Hunger Games forever.
If it has Zeggler, all i will hear is Weird, Weird, Weird.
Film should be long, stop making two movies to tell one story.
THe BEST hunger games film? insane lol. Oh you were being serious. Ok I didn't hate this film like others have. I mean if you've read the book you pretty much get what you expect, but the best film? Really? Although yeah, lucy gray's singing was phenomenal and I kinda wished that was teh kind of sining her saw katniss sing. or rather heard. come on, you seriously telling me they couldn't just use someone to sing over her?
third
🤓 This would never fly in real life 🤓
It's not. It was completely unnecessary, and brought nothing new to the table. The constant "winking" at the audience with the stupid songs got irritating too.
Sorry but it’s the worst of them. I was exited because I loved the other movies. And despite Rachel Zegler I wanted to like it. But the truth is the movie is no good. You can see it at the box office too.
Sweetie you just have poor taste
It’s definitely not the worst in the franchise at all
@@edra2005 yor seriously calling me sweetie? poor taste or not we are entitled to our opinion. Be nice
@@Albtraumgirl If you want people to respect your opinion then you should show the same respect to others. Otherwise, if you say something with condescension, expect condescension back.
It was boring as hell , jen Lawrence should come back
Why would she be in this movie when she's not supposed to exist for like 50 years?
@@benjamintic3653 mutiverse
@@allthings1036 Multiverses are overused and just an excuse for lazy writing if you ask me.
To do what exactly?