I think many of you may be new to my channel! Just wanted to let you know that this video was reuploaded from my other channel Rama2.0!! If you want more of this type of content I have a similar video on that channel:))
Happy to see it being reuploaded watched it then it was on your other channel really loved it and happy to see someone giving it great praise because I do think it is serie that deserves more recognition as a great movie serie.
@@rama2.0 well I haven’t watched it hear on this Channel I have so far only watched it on your main channel but then I feel like it in the future I will make sure to watch it. Because I do like rewatching video analysis I like. What are your thoughts on the new upcoming hunger games prequel book?
@axelpettersson1482 omgg no worries at all I’m grateful you watched it at all lmaoo. I am beyond excited for sunrise on the reaping. I’ve been wanting to know more about Haymitch. How do u feel abt the release?
@@rama2.0Would it be possible for you to add subtitles? The automatic ones aren't available and maybe more people could watch with them. English isn't my first language, so I thought to ask for other learners as well 💗
For the record, one thing I think the film's could never capture the visceral writing in books that made me question how in the hell they were published for Scholastic. It makes me wonder what an R-Rated Hunger Games would look like, they might be able to capture the real devastation and desperation of people starving and sick, which to me emphasised just how cruel and deliberate the whole system is, and makes the real-life counterparts that much more sickening. One thing that has stuck with me for years was how Katniss described the significance of the landmines in the book, instead of just saying you'd be blown sky high she explains that a District 8 girl who dropped her bracelet literally had to be scraped off the ground. Then there was that cannibal kid, the people who died of starvation or injuries from the mine in her kitchen, the people who went completely insane, the addictions, the trafficking and prostitution for food or for safety in the winning Victors' cases, a whole tonne of stuff, really. Realising that all of those things happened in the real world as a result of political conflict is what radicalised me.
this showing up today is making me cry. for little 12 year old me who was so shocked at the world building… how could America fall to such disarray and dystopia? Well, I see it now
I am genuinely feeling so sad for you guys who voted for Kamala. I do not understand how a prosecutor with such an extensive resume could lose (and by so much) to a felon. I am truly hoping for the best for you guys, don’t despair hopefully things will get better after he leaves for good.. It was very scary to wake up to, especially as a Canadian bc unfortunately our politics often mimick your own.
@@rama2.0her campaign was designed to give us hope, but it had to be contained by AIPAC and fear mongering a successive Trump administration. It was never designed to succeed. This is the game.
Yeah they fell short in many ways this year. Focused on rallying ‘undecided’ voters rather than their usually electorate was not necessarily the best strategy for her. I do wish you guys the best tho!
The creator has less than 1,000 subscribers, over 61,000 views in less than a week is good for the channel size. Upsetting that they had to re-upload it though, there's literally nothing wrong with it.
wasn't she incredible? As cheesy as it may sound, you can feel the grief emanating from her almost. She's trying so hard to hold it together for Prim mostly but it's not working much (in the first movie at least).
Same with Prims actress. Especially in the first movie her screams and sobs sound so genuine they make me emotional. The cut to Prims screams from Ceaser and Senecas interview is chilling
Katniss is so humble she might not be the best person but she’s so humane every time I watch her with rue I cry because you could tell she truly saw her sister in her and seeing her die truly made her become the mockingjay she was so young so kinda and didn’t even get a chance to grow up
Yeah and I think she also somewhat saw herself in Rue as well because they were both the eldest daughters taking care of their younger siblings. She deserved so much more and just like you I always cry when I see/read about Rue
haven't seen the movie yet, but in the book at least he didn't strike me so much as an underdog, as much as someone who felt entitled to glory and power despite someone else's attempts to contain him because that person realized he was actually dangerous and would continue Panem's dictatorial cycle.
One of the things that I appreciated about the series more as I've gotten older, was how our protagonist Katniss, wasn't such a chosen one savior character who's character choices is the sole reason the dismantling of the dystopian world and that she's just another cog in the machine (a very important one indeed) but a machine that would've start regardless just because of the very nature of people of the contradictions the people in power put in place to hold on to their power, there was a lot going on in the background decades before the events of the story by various people with various factions with their own (and a lot of the time selfish) reasons for fighting the fight. And showed just how much suffering and dehumanizing , the cycle of fear and violence can be. without falling into the centralists "every side bad" pitfall that a ton of dystonia YAs and political dramas typically fall into. Its a very scary reflection of our society and the real world suffering that we see (or unwilfully to see) around us. Its especially more true after all the events we're seeing now and the release of BoSAS and how people took all the wrong message from it.
Yes absolutely. The way I see the series is that anyone with enough courage from the districts could’ve been Katniss. She has never wanted that position to begin with. It truly is scary how fitting Panem is to the current state of the world. Not saying it’s the same but there are definitely a lot of call backs and it’s very unfortunate. As you said, The Ballad also does an amazing job at showing just how much fear can control (young) minds and push them away from compassion as is the case with Snow
I’ve always hated that the movies made her the first volunteer. In the books people from Twelve have volunteered before, so even that didn’t make her special. She was just a run of the mill tribute who just so happened to be overwhelmingly compassionate, to the point that it inspired a nation.
@@OpossumOnTheMoon While you're right that District 12 has had volunteers, Katniss says in the book that it has been "decades" since anyone has volunteered. And this also means that for decades, kids were being reaped while their siblings likely stood by and wouldn't dare to take their place. That's not necessarily blameworthy considering their circumstances, but it does add some level of commendable character to Katniss.
@ I agree, but I think there’s a difference between being the first person to do something in decades and being the first to do something EVER. While the action is rightfully commendable in both circumstances Katsniss being the first ever volunteer just ruins that aspect of the story for me. She’s a average person but an above average sister. She’s the common man who happens to do the right action at the right time. I think it kinda waters her down a bit in ways I can’t fully articulate tbh
@@OpossumOnTheMoon I understand your POV. I still think it speaks volumes about who she is, not in a way that makes her extraordinary or superhuman in her affections. It is likely that when the Games first began, the population in the lower districts held onto some kind of hope that a volunteer might have a better chance at beating the odds than, say, an unlucky 12 year old. That hope likely dissipated with time which is why volunteering seems a waste of life by year 74, even for the caring older siblings out there. It's that bleakness that has drawn on for so long which acts as the backdrop of Katniss' actions, which make those around her perceive her as unique.
3:54 not time stamped perfectly but I 100 percent agree about the Hunger games ability to immerse you into the story and the dynamics without TELLING you the dynamic. You didnt have to read the books to understand whats going on and you dont need a narrator. You get immersed into it, and like you said they brought it to life with parallels to our own society. I also loved the divergence series and i liked the first maze runner. But neither is a good as The Hunger Games.
I know some people say that the Capital was too evil and that the Hunger Games would never really happen but they forget about the Coliseum in Rome. It was literally the Hunger Games but much, much worse.
As we enter the next four years, this has never felt more real. Thank you for releasing this when you did💙 it serves a short rest bite from the reality so many now face…. And how this may actually turn into a reality
@@sadboijo2573 you also wrote out exactly what I was thinking/feeling Together, we resist ❤ Was thinking of watching a hunger games marathon to help process my emotions this morning and help motivate my strength in this difficult time
Yeah I definitely did not think that’s how things were going to turn out, but I hope my video and the franchise especially can still be enjoyed despite all of this.. and I did not take this as fear mongering at all personally. I’m doing my BA in poli sci and stuff globally looks a bit scary fs
I said it in the first upload and I'll say it again here. I've said the exact words Katniss said about never having children. The genius of this series is it's fantastical enough to grip us as a media, but close enough to home to have us addicted.
One subtle theme in Hunger Games was the power of atrocity. The Hunger Games served to unite the Capitol district and get the citizens of the Capitol invested. This also served to get the citizens of District 1 and 2 and the other career districts invested in Panem unity. Most of the investment in atrocities was through sponsorship of one of the tributes, a vicarious degree of participation is atrocities. There is never enough power to force people to give their all--when people do only what they're forced to do, empires fall. "Doing nothing" is the nuclear option of a labor strike. "Doing nothing" undermined East Germany to the point of collapse. Participation in atrocities got Capitol District citizens to willingly and actively support the rulers of Panem. "The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes" drove this home to me--vicarious participation in the atrocities of war has a long and successful history. In "1984" the Two Minutes Hate was one of many vicarious participation atrocities that Big Brother used to control Oceania. In the Hunger Games, the fact that other districts were killing off YOUR district's children also served to make enemies of those districts, and it felt good when the other districts' tributes fell. Atrocity--just the medicine ordered by the doctor.
Thank you for mentioning Gaza in this, it’s exactly like the hunger games or actually even worse. Even a doctor who went there said it’s a “hunger games on steroids”. So thank you!
I love the way the hunger games shows the cruelty in eveyone and how easy it is to other and dehumanize eachother, but at the same time how the human race has rebellion embedded in its soul, compliance and rebellion. How important and dangerous human relationships can be. Class issues, police brutality, how children are used by governments etc
I remember when the movie came out and people were upset that Rue was played by Amandla Stenberg since they expected her to be white. I remember being the same age as Rue and realizing the not so subtle implication that the general public felt like Rue being black made her death “not as sad”. Suzanne really hit on so many issues that plague our society and even when showing the horrors of dehumanizing others people still managed to show exactly what aspects of Panem we accept in our society.
This! I saw a creator on here talking about it in an amazing video (the day the internet discovered that Rue was Black I think it was) and I was honestly so sad and confused seeing that. Realizing that your skin colour makes others see you as less worthy of sympathy was so hurtful. I am honestly just super grateful Collins portrayed Rue with so much humanity in her book
I remember this video! Sucks that RUclips didnt let you keep it on your original channel. I re-watched it and am leaving a comment to help it in the algorithm!
5:00 It reminds you of all these things, but not North Korea? North Korea is divided up into districts, with even simple travel between them being completely restricted. They’re extremely oppressed to the point of it being required for every house to hold a picture of the great leaders. The Capitol and a few other richer districts can provide decent living standards (not including human rights), but they’re the 1%, where everybody else is on the verge of starving.
As many times as I've read/watched this series, something has just now occured to me while watching this video. The Careers being allowed to train and their districts being afforded treatment the other districts don't recieve is the Capitol's way of ensuring their loyalty as victors. We learn about their special treatment in the first book, but see it come to fruition in Catching Fire. The rebel victors knew they wouldn't bite the hand that feeds them. It can be argued(albeit without textual evidence) that Katniss posed a threat to their existence in more ways than one and they were aware of that, which is why they went for her so hard the moment the gong sounded.
Thank u for reuploading! It's clear u spent a lot of time working on this. It would be a shame to see it go ✨️ RUclips can be such a pain in the butt sometimes😂 U go, girl! U have so much talent, i just know you're going places 🫶🏻
Yeah I refuse to let them make me delete this video forever hahaha😭 RUclips can be rough sometimes but it’s fine!! I learned a tough lesson with this one!! Thank uu for supporting me here as well you’re super kind and I’m very thankful❤️❤️
@rama2.0 Hi! I was just checking in again, and i was just thinking. The fact that this video has reached over 150k views already, shows how amazing it is! U should be proud of urself! 🙌🏻🤗❤
@Bloomingsnowyflower0101 you are so beyond kind thank you so much for ur comment🫶🏾 I’ve been going through it with exams so this really made my night!!much much love to you❤️❤️❤️
@rama2.0 Aawww thanx! 🤗 Good luck with ur exams! U can do it! Make sure to take self-care breaks in between (they're just as important as studying) 😌✨️🫶🏻
I wanted to quickly give a HUGE shoutout to the creator of this video - it was a well thought & well written essay with (this is the part that is extremely rare to see) the books and page numbers to support her ideas. super impressive!!
Your comment made me so happy✨✨ I am super glad to see you guys enjoyed the quotes/references from the books and will add them to other videos when I can:))
I'm ngl to you, I wrote this towards the beginning/middle of summer bc I simply could not get over this franchise. I hope you get around to writing about it too:)) And thank you so much, I'm glad you think so!
I've been analyzing and turning over THG for years and I just fully connected that Rue is meant for the viewers to realize what Katniss not volunteering would have meant just as much as she's a symbol of missing Prim/what she's fighting for in Katniss's eyes.
I watched the first Divergent film ages ago and wasn't all that impressed, and haven't read any of those books. Hunger Games and Maze Runner seem like the strongest dystopian YA fiction currently on the market (so to speak). Good video.
Thank you so much for watch! I do agree with this. I did enjoy Divergent as merely an entertaining movie but it definitely does not compete with this franchise in my opinion. I think it might have to do with the fact that Divergent was also written on a much shorter time frame than THG (over a winter break if I am not mistaken) so that might've affected things for sure.
I never really thought that this would interest anyone but I am so grateful it did❤️ If you ever write something lmk I’m always open to reading/hearing from others:))
There's one thing I don't hear many people talk about. It's the trauma bond and potential codependency between katniss and peeta. I never really liked peeta as much as other people did. He saved katniss, but his actions also kind of forced her to get closer to him. I would love to believe fondness grew organically for her, but I can't ignore the fact that their relationship is rooted in pain and trauma mixed with isolation. They never had the time that they deserved. By the end, peeta became almost all she had left. Who else will understand her arena and war experiences but him? No one. Gale became too dangerous, and his actions caused the loss of her sister. Katniss losses and her ability to survive are relateable to me as a veteran surrounded by danger and the desire to have a sense of normal or something to bond with. A lot of the friendships and relationships I saw were rushed and lacked proper foundation because of the constant looming danger. We often dated each other because we could relate to the shared experiences. That environment can be isolating, too. I don't know. I just wanted more for her in the end. That's also shows how realistic this series is. You feel like the story is real, and katniss could be someone you know. Sorry for the rant. It will forever be one of my favorite book series. I loved the films too.
@ ok I didn’t remember that exact scene ,it’s been a while since I’ve seen the movie ,hence why I’m watching the video. I was simply making an observation
I never noticed that Katniss reacts really similarly to Rue's age (23:33) and to Prim's name being called (23:57). She can't help but be horrified :( Also calling Peeta the United Nations of green flags was fantastic 😂
Yes I was a little sad but it's okay that's how things are! I am definitely making more of these videos but on the other channel (not sure what to make of this channel yet lmao). Tysmm for your support❤️❤️
@@rama2.0 I didn’t even realize I watched your snow video on your main channel. I love listening to hunger games essays, you did so good with both!! I’ll subscribe over there too ☺️💕
0:53 Divergent doesn't just represent a dystopia for entertainment. It presents a dystopia to analize the risks of playing with nature and especially genetics
That is an insult to Peeta. United Nations is a useless toothless organization that does no good for anyone except for its smug, self-satisfied officials enjoying high salaries on cushy jobs.
So now imma ask you to pick 5 random numbers and let me know what companies you're getting ready to invest in... Cuz this videos timing is so impeccable it has to be from precognition
@TerraJ-ug6nc hahahaha ig it all depends on who you’re asking. I think it’s unfortunate given the recent events, but hopefully it can bring ppl some light/escape for a bit
I think everyone needs to watch The Hunger Games ALONG WITH The Handmaid's Tale. While I absolutely love what THG does, both the later movies and later books glamorize "revolution." It's really only the prologue of the last book that explains hard enough what it all meant. I think The Handmaid's Tale better illustrates the day-to-day of an oppressive government, attempting to topple that government, and the retaliation and lingering impacts that ensue.
I think that started with the editors too (they pushed Collins to include the whole love triangle with Gale which she did not want initially). Even though I love Katniss and Peeta to bits, this is not a love story😭
I’m so happy you enjoyed the video and tysmmm for the support❤️❤️ and yes some of the scenes were deleted clips lmao. This video took forever to edit bc I kept wanting to add stuff to it which I tried to limit with subsequent videos😭😭
When the scene of Cesar and a career tribute came up, I rolled my eyes because of the propaganda. No matter how many times I watch, I am still picking up on some things I didn’t see the first time.
Amazing breakdown! I love when people take the time to make nuanced analysis of this set of stories. It's eerie how Collins manages to draw reference to real world history in her fictonal world with such accuracy with how this form of political power works. Let's just hope the lame and lazy "critics" who's deepest thought of this franchise starts and ends at "this is just a Battle Royale rip-off" stays at a minimum. Its the type of people that swear apples and oranges are exactly the same thing because their both fruit.
Thank you so much! I've been so obsessed with this franchise since I was maybe 10-11yo so it feels good to see that ppl still care about it 10 years later:) Collins is simply amazing, her knowledge is what truly sets these books/movies apart from the rest imo. I did get some of these critics when I first uploaded this video on my other channel but so far so good lmaoo. I mean I did watch Battle Royale and it is good but I do prefer THG personally
This is a great analysis of THG series. I agree with you, that it is great at depicting the cruelty of war, the dictatorship and the total impact, that it has on people. Well, one thing, on which I disagree with you, is the comparison between THG and TMR, because The Maze Runner tries to depict different aspects of dystopy. It touches the topics of global warming, spread of deseases and trials used for searching for the cure, that are made on children. Therefore, at least as I see it, The Maze Runner can't be compared with The Hunger Games as both are approching different topics.
i love this but i wish you had spoken more about the books than the movies, because while they are a good adaption they miss a lot that's so interesting and vital in the story.
Thank you for watching!! I think I preferred focusing on the movies bc the books have an enormous amount of material that I found a little daunting when making this video as it is the first one of this type I created. I did however make one on president Snow and TBOSBAS which has a lot of emphasis on the book if you wish to watch that one it’s on my main channel:))
At least the world of hunger games had clearer lines between good, evil and grey areas. In the real world we don’t have that luxury and almost everything is starting to look either grey or evil. At least they aren’t pretending to care for their children while also allowing their genocide like we are.
Thank you for deep analysis, it’s scary that our world is kinda getting more and more dangerous and capitalistic than ever before, hope it’ll never turn into hunger games
Career tributes are like today's white collars.They are most likely to be winner and become rich among other working class but it is still one in a million and through very hard and brutal way. Also you have to be very lucky to survive. And most of the time they volunteer to participate (like blue collar workers resist more and go on strikes, unionizes etc. but white collar workers can work overtime voluntarily and unpaid in the hope of American dream.) and careers specially trained for the games. (like white collars' college degrees). Also They are more hostile to other working classes and more loyal to the system/capitol because they think they will be rewarded more if they work more. Indeed, they live relatively better than other working classes.
I think many of you may be new to my channel! Just wanted to let you know that this video was reuploaded from my other channel Rama2.0!! If you want more of this type of content I have a similar video on that channel:))
Happy to see it being reuploaded watched it then it was on your other channel really loved it and happy to see someone giving it great praise because I do think it is serie that deserves more recognition as a great movie serie.
Yess I’m so happy ppl are still willing to watch the video just shows how great the franchise is! Thank you for watching it over here too:))
@@rama2.0 well I haven’t watched it hear on this Channel I have so far only watched it on your main channel but then I feel like it in the future I will make sure to watch it. Because I do like rewatching video analysis I like.
What are your thoughts on the new upcoming hunger games prequel book?
@axelpettersson1482 omgg no worries at all I’m grateful you watched it at all lmaoo. I am beyond excited for sunrise on the reaping. I’ve been wanting to know more about Haymitch. How do u feel abt the release?
@@rama2.0Would it be possible for you to add subtitles? The automatic ones aren't available and maybe more people could watch with them. English isn't my first language, so I thought to ask for other learners as well 💗
I'm a simple woman. I see a video essay about The Hunger Games, I click.
Hope this one was as enjoyable as the rest:))
Hahahahha this is so real
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The part where Katniss talks about Rue & apologizes for her death makes me cry the most. She said “I’m sorry” & didn’t expect forgiveness
Yeah I can never watch her victory tour speech without tearing up. Rue didn’t deserve that, none of them did really
Even cato didn't deserve it..
Katnis realize that the only her enemy is snow.. then later is coin..
The Hunger Games is a masterclass in demonstrating dehumanization
Sadly only about 71 Million Americans seem to have listened.
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I will not apologize for the woman i become when sunrise on the reaping is released
Frl no one talk to me at that time
U don't gotta apologize cuz I get it 😭
I'm gonna become so insufferable
For the record, one thing I think the film's could never capture the visceral writing in books that made me question how in the hell they were published for Scholastic. It makes me wonder what an R-Rated Hunger Games would look like, they might be able to capture the real devastation and desperation of people starving and sick, which to me emphasised just how cruel and deliberate the whole system is, and makes the real-life counterparts that much more sickening.
One thing that has stuck with me for years was how Katniss described the significance of the landmines in the book, instead of just saying you'd be blown sky high she explains that a District 8 girl who dropped her bracelet literally had to be scraped off the ground. Then there was that cannibal kid, the people who died of starvation or injuries from the mine in her kitchen, the people who went completely insane, the addictions, the trafficking and prostitution for food or for safety in the winning Victors' cases, a whole tonne of stuff, really. Realising that all of those things happened in the real world as a result of political conflict is what radicalised me.
this showing up today is making me cry. for little 12 year old me who was so shocked at the world building… how could America fall to such disarray and dystopia?
Well, I see it now
I am genuinely feeling so sad for you guys who voted for Kamala. I do not understand how a prosecutor with such an extensive resume could lose (and by so much) to a felon. I am truly hoping for the best for you guys, don’t despair hopefully things will get better after he leaves for good.. It was very scary to wake up to, especially as a Canadian bc unfortunately our politics often mimick your own.
@@rama2.0her campaign was designed to give us hope, but it had to be contained by AIPAC and fear mongering a successive Trump administration. It was never designed to succeed. This is the game.
Um probably bc shes genuinely incompetent.
Yeah they fell short in many ways this year. Focused on rallying ‘undecided’ voters rather than their usually electorate was not necessarily the best strategy for her. I do wish you guys the best tho!
I think incompetent is the one word I wouldn’t use to describe her given her rather impressive resume. You’re entitled to feel how you wish however.
this ate so hard why tf isnt it viral
Thank you so much! This is a reupload bc I had to delete it from my main channel:(( I’m glad you enjoyed it though!!
The creator has less than 1,000 subscribers, over 61,000 views in less than a week is good for the channel size. Upsetting that they had to re-upload it though, there's literally nothing wrong with it.
for as little screen time as Katniss' mom gets, the actress does a great job at portraying her
wasn't she incredible? As cheesy as it may sound, you can feel the grief emanating from her almost. She's trying so hard to hold it together for Prim mostly but it's not working much (in the first movie at least).
Same with Prims actress. Especially in the first movie her screams and sobs sound so genuine they make me emotional. The cut to Prims screams from Ceaser and Senecas interview is chilling
She was also JLaw's mom when they played in an episode of Cold Case together !!!
Katniss is so humble she might not be the best person but she’s so humane every time I watch her with rue I cry because you could tell she truly saw her sister in her and seeing her die truly made her become the mockingjay she was so young so kinda and didn’t even get a chance to grow up
Yeah and I think she also somewhat saw herself in Rue as well because they were both the eldest daughters taking care of their younger siblings. She deserved so much more and just like you I always cry when I see/read about Rue
RUclips needs to let this woman cook, this video is FANTASTIC
They’re my biggest opp at the moment ngl lmaoo😭 they won’t let me breathe on my main channel istg🫠 I’m glad you enjoyed the video though!!
19:37 his experience as an underdog himself as well as working with Lucy Grey makes this line particularly delicious.
Yess 100%. I didn’t quite grasp that but researching for my TBOSBAS video made me realize where he comes from fs
haven't seen the movie yet, but in the book at least he didn't strike me so much as an underdog, as much as someone who felt entitled to glory and power despite someone else's attempts to contain him because that person realized he was actually dangerous and would continue Panem's dictatorial cycle.
One of the things that I appreciated about the series more as I've gotten older, was how our protagonist Katniss, wasn't such a chosen one savior character who's character choices is the sole reason the dismantling of the dystopian world and that she's just another cog in the machine (a very important one indeed) but a machine that would've start regardless just because of the very nature of people of the contradictions the people in power put in place to hold on to their power, there was a lot going on in the background decades before the events of the story by various people with various factions with their own (and a lot of the time selfish) reasons for fighting the fight.
And showed just how much suffering and dehumanizing , the cycle of fear and violence can be. without falling into the centralists "every side bad" pitfall that a ton of dystonia YAs and political dramas typically fall into. Its a very scary reflection of our society and the real world suffering that we see (or unwilfully to see) around us. Its especially more true after all the events we're seeing now and the release of BoSAS and how people took all the wrong message from it.
Yes absolutely. The way I see the series is that anyone with enough courage from the districts could’ve been Katniss. She has never wanted that position to begin with. It truly is scary how fitting Panem is to the current state of the world. Not saying it’s the same but there are definitely a lot of call backs and it’s very unfortunate. As you said, The Ballad also does an amazing job at showing just how much fear can control (young) minds and push them away from compassion as is the case with Snow
I’ve always hated that the movies made her the first volunteer. In the books people from Twelve have volunteered before, so even that didn’t make her special. She was just a run of the mill tribute who just so happened to be overwhelmingly compassionate, to the point that it inspired a nation.
@@OpossumOnTheMoon While you're right that District 12 has had volunteers, Katniss says in the book that it has been "decades" since anyone has volunteered. And this also means that for decades, kids were being reaped while their siblings likely stood by and wouldn't dare to take their place. That's not necessarily blameworthy considering their circumstances, but it does add some level of commendable character to Katniss.
@ I agree, but I think there’s a difference between being the first person to do something in decades and being the first to do something EVER. While the action is rightfully commendable in both circumstances Katsniss being the first ever volunteer just ruins that aspect of the story for me. She’s a average person but an above average sister. She’s the common man who happens to do the right action at the right time. I think it kinda waters her down a bit in ways I can’t fully articulate tbh
@@OpossumOnTheMoon I understand your POV. I still think it speaks volumes about who she is, not in a way that makes her extraordinary or superhuman in her affections. It is likely that when the Games first began, the population in the lower districts held onto some kind of hope that a volunteer might have a better chance at beating the odds than, say, an unlucky 12 year old. That hope likely dissipated with time which is why volunteering seems a waste of life by year 74, even for the caring older siblings out there. It's that bleakness that has drawn on for so long which acts as the backdrop of Katniss' actions, which make those around her perceive her as unique.
Fun fact, the hunger games is getting banned from a bunch of states (within schools)
Yeah I saw some of the banned books and it also included Fahrenheit 451 which is very on the nose ngl
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If Katniss hadn't volunteered, there would have been two 12-year old in the arena
i watched mockingjay and was shocked at the 1 to 1 parallels of our world. the leaflets, the bombs disguised as food, the propaganda.
3:54 not time stamped perfectly but I 100 percent agree about the Hunger games ability to immerse you into the story and the dynamics without TELLING you the dynamic. You didnt have to read the books to understand whats going on and you dont need a narrator. You get immersed into it, and like you said they brought it to life with parallels to our own society. I also loved the divergence series and i liked the first maze runner. But neither is a good as The Hunger Games.
I know some people say that the Capital was too evil and that the Hunger Games would never really happen but they forget about the Coliseum in Rome. It was literally the Hunger Games but much, much worse.
As we enter the next four years, this has never felt more real. Thank you for releasing this when you did💙 it serves a short rest bite from the reality so many now face…. And how this may actually turn into a reality
@@SydneyDeLeon-lc1ks didn’t mean for it to be fear mongering😅 just writing out my thoughts and feelings
@@sadboijo2573 you also wrote out exactly what I was thinking/feeling
Together, we resist ❤
Was thinking of watching a hunger games marathon to help process my emotions this morning and help motivate my strength in this difficult time
Yeah I definitely did not think that’s how things were going to turn out, but I hope my video and the franchise especially can still be enjoyed despite all of this.. and I did not take this as fear mongering at all personally. I’m doing my BA in poli sci and stuff globally looks a bit scary fs
Condolences to all of you in the States. ❤️
@@sadboijo2573That's a trump supporter fuck how they feel... Anyone with a brain can see the reason to be VERY concerned
Glad to see this video back on the platform such great content should never been hidden just like the Hunger Games themselves
Thank you for supporting me here too frl I’m super grateful❤️❤️
I said it in the first upload and I'll say it again here. I've said the exact words Katniss said about never having children.
The genius of this series is it's fantastical enough to grip us as a media, but close enough to home to have us addicted.
Thank u for coming back!!:) and once again your comment is on point. And after the recent events, I think a lot of ppl may agree with Katniss here..
Katnis is a good example how to write a female protagonist hero..
I love THG because in the end, Katniss went through everything for nothing because her sister dies. And that's just how life is sometimes.
The Hunger Games is my favorite dystopian series and I loved all of your points!!!
Mine too! It’s an amazing franchise. I’m glad you liked the video:))
One subtle theme in Hunger Games was the power of atrocity. The Hunger Games served to unite the Capitol district and get the citizens of the Capitol invested. This also served to get the citizens of District 1 and 2 and the other career districts invested in Panem unity. Most of the investment in atrocities was through sponsorship of one of the tributes, a vicarious degree of participation is atrocities.
There is never enough power to force people to give their all--when people do only what they're forced to do, empires fall. "Doing nothing" is the nuclear option of a labor strike. "Doing nothing" undermined East Germany to the point of collapse. Participation in atrocities got Capitol District citizens to willingly and actively support the rulers of Panem.
"The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes" drove this home to me--vicarious participation in the atrocities of war has a long and successful history. In "1984" the Two Minutes Hate was one of many vicarious participation atrocities that Big Brother used to control Oceania. In the Hunger Games, the fact that other districts were killing off YOUR district's children also served to make enemies of those districts, and it felt good when the other districts' tributes fell.
Atrocity--just the medicine ordered by the doctor.
You are so well spoken! I feel like we don't often see such well done video essays about The Hunger Games.
You are too kind!! Thank you so much for watching❤️
Gahahahah “the united nations of green flags” that made cackle. It’s so true 😂😂😂😂😂
Reesa Teesa truly inspired me there hahah❤️
Thank you for mentioning Gaza in this, it’s exactly like the hunger games or actually even worse. Even a doctor who went there said it’s a “hunger games on steroids”. So thank you!
and to think jennifer lawrance, the actress playing katniss is pro israhell🤦♀️
oh do shut up.
I love the way the hunger games shows the cruelty in eveyone and how easy it is to other and dehumanize eachother, but at the same time how the human race has rebellion embedded in its soul, compliance and rebellion. How important and dangerous human relationships can be. Class issues, police brutality, how children are used by governments etc
I remember when the movie came out and people were upset that Rue was played by Amandla Stenberg since they expected her to be white. I remember being the same age as Rue and realizing the not so subtle implication that the general public felt like Rue being black made her death “not as sad”. Suzanne really hit on so many issues that plague our society and even when showing the horrors of dehumanizing others people still managed to show exactly what aspects of Panem we accept in our society.
This! I saw a creator on here talking about it in an amazing video (the day the internet discovered that Rue was Black I think it was) and I was honestly so sad and confused seeing that. Realizing that your skin colour makes others see you as less worthy of sympathy was so hurtful. I am honestly just super grateful Collins portrayed Rue with so much humanity in her book
"Though I believe Peeta is the United Nations of green flags.." 😩😭😂😂
This was a GREAT video essay about The Hunger Games. You make me want to rewatch it and cry my eyes out
Agreed, the hunger games books are amazing and so are the movies, they really are in a class of their own.
I remember this video! Sucks that RUclips didnt let you keep it on your original channel. I re-watched it and am leaving a comment to help it in the algorithm!
Ahh thank you so much hahaha this truly does help with the algorithm🫶🫶
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It reminds you of all these things, but not North Korea? North Korea is divided up into districts, with even simple travel between them being completely restricted. They’re extremely oppressed to the point of it being required for every house to hold a picture of the great leaders. The Capitol and a few other richer districts can provide decent living standards (not including human rights), but they’re the 1%, where everybody else is on the verge of starving.
@18:07, I think President Snow was referencing LUCY GRAY when he said "if a girl from District 12 can defy the Captiol and walk away unharmed"...
this is such an extremely good breakdown!!! i don’t usually comment on videos, but this deserves more views.
Omgg thank you so much I truly love this❤️❤️ this is a reupload but I hope it gets as much success as it initially did🫶🫶
I love that you include parts of the books
Lmaoo im so glad you noticed😭 took me some time to find the right quotes and I’m glad you enjoyed them❤️❤️
As many times as I've read/watched this series, something has just now occured to me while watching this video. The Careers being allowed to train and their districts being afforded treatment the other districts don't recieve is the Capitol's way of ensuring their loyalty as victors. We learn about their special treatment in the first book, but see it come to fruition in Catching Fire. The rebel victors knew they wouldn't bite the hand that feeds them. It can be argued(albeit without textual evidence) that Katniss posed a threat to their existence in more ways than one and they were aware of that, which is why they went for her so hard the moment the gong sounded.
I was so confused for a minute. I knew I had watched and liked this video, reupload makes sense. xD
Yesss I unfortunately had to bc of my own stupidity and RUclips policies:((
@rama2.0 RUclips definitely makes things complicated.
Rewatched all the way through, and plan on showing my husband after he watches Snow's movie.
You’re so kind thank you so much🫶🏾🫶🏾
@@rama2.0 I'm glad you saw my other comment, because I can't. xD
This video is so good I didn't realize you weren't insanely popular already as a channel. RUclips algorithm please bless more ppl with this video
Hearing Cato speak to the capitol reminds me of the way the US indoctrinates the military.
I already watched the first one, but I'm rewatching and commenting for the algorithm. How timely this reupload is.
You're so kind thank you so much❤️
Thank u for reuploading! It's clear u spent a lot of time working on this. It would be a shame to see it go ✨️ RUclips can be such a pain in the butt sometimes😂 U go, girl! U have so much talent, i just know you're going places 🫶🏻
Yeah I refuse to let them make me delete this video forever hahaha😭 RUclips can be rough sometimes but it’s fine!! I learned a tough lesson with this one!! Thank uu for supporting me here as well you’re super kind and I’m very thankful❤️❤️
@rama2.0 Hi! I was just checking in again, and i was just thinking. The fact that this video has reached over 150k views already, shows how amazing it is! U should be proud of urself! 🙌🏻🤗❤
@Bloomingsnowyflower0101 you are so beyond kind thank you so much for ur comment🫶🏾 I’ve been going through it with exams so this really made my night!!much much love to you❤️❤️❤️
@rama2.0 Aawww thanx! 🤗 Good luck with ur exams! U can do it! Make sure to take self-care breaks in between (they're just as important as studying) 😌✨️🫶🏻
The Hunger Games 2012 is truly the most beautiful film ever... and the BTS bonus material is all just as moving
Im so happy this is back up! Thank you for creating this! :D
Thank you for watching it🫶🫶
I wanted to quickly give a HUGE shoutout to the creator of this video - it was a well thought & well written essay with (this is the part that is extremely rare to see) the books and page numbers to support her ideas. super impressive!!
Your comment made me so happy✨✨ I am super glad to see you guys enjoyed the quotes/references from the books and will add them to other videos when I can:))
Ive been thinking about writing something like this for a while, you put this beautifully!!
I'm ngl to you, I wrote this towards the beginning/middle of summer bc I simply could not get over this franchise. I hope you get around to writing about it too:)) And thank you so much, I'm glad you think so!
It’s so important and impactful of how this book series and movies shaped so many people around the world.
Yes absolutely! I am still not over it since I first read it 10 years ago.
I've been analyzing and turning over THG for years and I just fully connected that Rue is meant for the viewers to realize what Katniss not volunteering would have meant just as much as she's a symbol of missing Prim/what she's fighting for in Katniss's eyes.
"Though I believe Peeta is the United Nations of Green Flags-"
Ok, that made me giggle 😂
I watched the first Divergent film ages ago and wasn't all that impressed, and haven't read any of those books. Hunger Games and Maze Runner seem like the strongest dystopian YA fiction currently on the market (so to speak). Good video.
Thank you so much for watch! I do agree with this. I did enjoy Divergent as merely an entertaining movie but it definitely does not compete with this franchise in my opinion. I think it might have to do with the fact that Divergent was also written on a much shorter time frame than THG (over a winter break if I am not mistaken) so that might've affected things for sure.
Amazing , I hope to write something that makes someone think this much . Keep on thinking , analyzing, we need it now more than ever
I never really thought that this would interest anyone but I am so grateful it did❤️ If you ever write something lmk I’m always open to reading/hearing from others:))
There's one thing I don't hear many people talk about. It's the trauma bond and potential codependency between katniss and peeta. I never really liked peeta as much as other people did. He saved katniss, but his actions also kind of forced her to get closer to him. I would love to believe fondness grew organically for her, but I can't ignore the fact that their relationship is rooted in pain and trauma mixed with isolation. They never had the time that they deserved. By the end, peeta became almost all she had left. Who else will understand her arena and war experiences but him? No one. Gale became too dangerous, and his actions caused the loss of her sister.
Katniss losses and her ability to survive are relateable to me as a veteran surrounded by danger and the desire to have a sense of normal or something to bond with. A lot of the friendships and relationships I saw were rushed and lacked proper foundation because of the constant looming danger. We often dated each other because we could relate to the shared experiences. That environment can be isolating, too. I don't know. I just wanted more for her in the end. That's also shows how realistic this series is. You feel like the story is real, and katniss could be someone you know.
Sorry for the rant. It will forever be one of my favorite book series. I loved the films too.
"There are much worse games to play" Katniss Everdeen 🏹
Perfect timing for this upload
Hope you enjoyed it!!
@@rama2.0I DID!!!! (this is now a hunger games fan account lol jk)
Lmaoo count me in as a member of the club (I love this franchise too much man😭)
Me and my kitty Katniss really enjoyed watching this video! 😁
Omgg I love that🫶 give treats to Katniss on my behalf❤️❤️
3:03 crazy how they casually waste food in the capital while people in the other districts were starving
this ws alrdy highlighted in the movies, you aren't slick.
@ ok I didn’t remember that exact scene ,it’s been a while since I’ve seen the movie ,hence why I’m watching the video. I was simply making an observation
I never noticed that Katniss reacts really similarly to Rue's age (23:33) and to Prim's name being called (23:57). She can't help but be horrified :(
Also calling Peeta the United Nations of green flags was fantastic 😂
Fantastic video essay- so happy to have listened to this 🥹
Thank you for watching❤️❤️
After the recent election, i now believe that the hunger games are a historical documentary brought from the future
For your sakes, I truly hope it isn’t
One thing I was disturbed by that they acted like death of children was normal and people are excited for the killing
This video was so well done, I'm sorry YT took it down off your other channel. I really hope for more videos like these, subscribed!!
Yes I was a little sad but it's okay that's how things are! I am definitely making more of these videos but on the other channel (not sure what to make of this channel yet lmao). Tysmm for your support❤️❤️
@@rama2.0 I didn’t even realize I watched your snow video on your main channel. I love listening to hunger games essays, you did so good with both!! I’ll subscribe over there too ☺️💕
I’m so happy you liked it too!! Thank you so much for your support❤️❤️
Girl how do you only have 737 followers???? Already in love with you
Girl ily you’re too sweet🫶🏾🫶🏾 also this is my second channel so I’m less active here lmaoo
@@rama2.0omg what’s your first channel called?
@ it’s called Rama2.0 (I am not very creative lmao). So far there’s only one video (on president Snow!) but I am working on the next one rn:)
amazing video, keep up the good work
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS. ❤
I see a video talking about the Hunger Games series, I watch immediately.
Really enjoyed this video, lots of interesting thoughts here, good job!!
I'm glad you enjoyed it!! Thank you for giving it a chance❤️🫶
Very good analysis, thank you!
too close to reality
Yeah I didn’t expect this one to hit so hard.. good luck to everyone in the states and globally tbh
@@rama2.0 Me too, I’m afraid. But I just subscribed. Peace 🕊️
Genuinamente amo este video, más en estos momentos, es como preventivo :)
Me alegro mucho de que te haya gustado el vídeo 🫶🏾🫶🏾 y lo siento por mi mal Español jaja
Really good video!! :oooo love your analysis ❤
Thank you so much for watching❤️❤️ I’m glad you enjoyed it🫶🫶
When you realize we’re living in a dystopia
0:53 Divergent doesn't just represent a dystopia for entertainment. It presents a dystopia to analize the risks of playing with nature and especially genetics
❤❤❤❤ this was really really good essay
Thank you so much❤️❤️
Bread Boy truly is the United Nation's of Green Flags
That is an insult to Peeta. United Nations is a useless toothless organization that does no good for anyone except for its smug, self-satisfied officials enjoying high salaries on cushy jobs.
So now imma ask you to pick 5 random numbers and let me know what companies you're getting ready to invest in... Cuz this videos timing is so impeccable it has to be from precognition
LMAOOO I just have bad timing idk.. like this is a reupload🫠😭
@@rama2.0 or do you have great timing?
@TerraJ-ug6nc hahahaha ig it all depends on who you’re asking. I think it’s unfortunate given the recent events, but hopefully it can bring ppl some light/escape for a bit
i really like your voice! hehe
Hahaha tysm❤️❤️
i genuinely believe suzanne collins is the smartest person alive
Excellent essay :)
I think everyone needs to watch The Hunger Games ALONG WITH The Handmaid's Tale. While I absolutely love what THG does, both the later movies and later books glamorize "revolution." It's really only the prologue of the last book that explains hard enough what it all meant. I think The Handmaid's Tale better illustrates the day-to-day of an oppressive government, attempting to topple that government, and the retaliation and lingering impacts that ensue.
Don't think she ever had deep love for Peeta. He in the end understand her. He share her dreams and fears and lost.
it was so ironic watching the american media turn the hunger games into a love story
I think that started with the editors too (they pushed Collins to include the whole love triangle with Gale which she did not want initially). Even though I love Katniss and Peeta to bits, this is not a love story😭
I believe you mean, the genius of Battle Royale
“The united nations of green flags* I’m watching this during my lunch break and nearly choked from delight so true bestie
Hahahaha isn’t he just so lovely??
I loved the video, im so glad youtube recommended it to me. You got a new subscriber 💚
Also, were some of the clips shown deleted scenes?
I’m so happy you enjoyed the video and tysmmm for the support❤️❤️ and yes some of the scenes were deleted clips lmao. This video took forever to edit bc I kept wanting to add stuff to it which I tried to limit with subsequent videos😭😭
I fw this heavy make more
I’m glad you do! I made another one on my second channel if you want to check it out:)
When the scene of Cesar and a career tribute came up, I rolled my eyes because of the propaganda. No matter how many times I watch, I am still picking up on some things I didn’t see the first time.
Amazing breakdown! I love when people take the time to make nuanced analysis of this set of stories. It's eerie how Collins manages to draw reference to real world history in her fictonal world with such accuracy with how this form of political power works.
Let's just hope the lame and lazy "critics" who's deepest thought of this franchise starts and ends at "this is just a Battle Royale rip-off" stays at a minimum. Its the type of people that swear apples and oranges are exactly the same thing because their both fruit.
Thank you so much! I've been so obsessed with this franchise since I was maybe 10-11yo so it feels good to see that ppl still care about it 10 years later:) Collins is simply amazing, her knowledge is what truly sets these books/movies apart from the rest imo.
I did get some of these critics when I first uploaded this video on my other channel but so far so good lmaoo. I mean I did watch Battle Royale and it is good but I do prefer THG personally
This is a great analysis of THG series. I agree with you, that it is great at depicting the cruelty of war, the dictatorship and the total impact, that it has on people.
Well, one thing, on which I disagree with you, is the comparison between THG and TMR, because The Maze Runner tries to depict different aspects of dystopy. It touches the topics of global warming, spread of deseases and trials used for searching for the cure, that are made on children.
Therefore, at least as I see it, The Maze Runner can't be compared with The Hunger Games as both are approching different topics.
8:00 NOT THE GRIPPER 😱
ok whats with the random dig at divergent. tris absolutely had flaws like the hell are you talking about 😭
i love this but i wish you had spoken more about the books than the movies, because while they are a good adaption they miss a lot that's so interesting and vital in the story.
Thank you for watching!! I think I preferred focusing on the movies bc the books have an enormous amount of material that I found a little daunting when making this video as it is the first one of this type I created. I did however make one on president Snow and TBOSBAS which has a lot of emphasis on the book if you wish to watch that one it’s on my main channel:))
I went to the same school overseas as Susanne Collins did, just years after her 😂
At least the world of hunger games had clearer lines between good, evil and grey areas. In the real world we don’t have that luxury and almost everything is starting to look either grey or evil. At least they aren’t pretending to care for their children while also allowing their genocide like we are.
Such a good video
Hunger Game is the world we actually live in... sadly!
Thank you for deep analysis, it’s scary that our world is kinda getting more and more dangerous and capitalistic than ever before, hope it’ll never turn into hunger games
Career tributes are like today's white collars.They are most likely to be winner and become rich among other working class but it is still one in a million and through very hard and brutal way. Also you have to be very lucky to survive. And most of the time they volunteer to participate (like blue collar workers resist more and go on strikes, unionizes etc. but white collar workers can work overtime voluntarily and unpaid in the hope of American dream.) and careers specially trained for the games. (like white collars' college degrees).
Also They are more hostile to other working classes and more loyal to the system/capitol because they think they will be rewarded more if they work more. Indeed, they live relatively better than other working classes.
Please enable auto captions!
I think they are enabled. On my side it says they are. Lmk if you can see them
@ unfortunately not for me :( perhaps just a youtube hiccup then!!
@sooyoungfanclub I’m so sorry idk how to help bc I enabled them in every version of English available + French:((
@sooyoungfanclub if you want maybe try slowing the video down a bit bc I do speak fast in that one? I’m not sure if that would help😞
@@rama2.0 thank u so much for your kindness!!! I will definitely do that 💛