Snapdragon Gen 2 is like the Snapdragon 865. Great sustained performance and heat efficiency! I am planning to upgrade this year. Gen 2 looks promising. Thanks for the review sir.
Going from 4200 Geekbench to 5100 with the same efficiency while using the same node is a pretty massive upgrade in my opinion. The GPU is even bigger of an improvement being even faster and more efficient. Also Apple is allegedly using the N4P node which gives them even better performance just from the node while Qualcomm use the N4 node which is about 10% slower.
Its only because of the core configuration...8G2 uses one Prime core + 4 performance cores + 3 low power cores.....it substitutes one low power core with one performance core
@@Okamine Google Tensor G2 based exynos 2200. Google Tensor G3 based exynos 2300. (the new exynos 23000 will be produced in 2023. used Samsung S22 FE at the same price as Samsung A74 5G, A74 5G was canceled, the launch was replaced by S22 FE) curious soc Samung is working with AMD and Google in 2025. Samsung S23 and S24 series all over the world use Qualcomm's soc. Samsung S22 fe launch after S23 series launch (1 February 2023)
@@loyal4theway159 Google Tensor G2 based exynos 2200. Google Tensor G3 based exynos 2300. (the new exynos 23000 will be produced in 2023. used Samsung S22 FE at the same price as Samsung A74 5G, A74 5G was canceled, the launch was replaced by S22 FE) curious soc Samung is working with AMD and Google in 2025. Samsung S23 and S24 series all over the world use Qualcomm's soc. Samsung S22 fe launch after S23 series launch (1 February 2023)
Qualcomm beating Apple in Gpu department is a massive milestone,,,,,and i dont think they will ever let that go. From now on we can safely say Qualcomm will have the best mobile space Gpu for the time.being
I heard that Apple currently having some problems to opting a new gpu for their upcoming SoC..perhaps their gpu lineup already reaching its peak..they need to make/steal a new gpu architecture like they did with PowerVR..
That might be the case, but i doubt people will let go of iphones' reputation as having the strongest SOC so easily. It's been built throughout the years and, well, apple diehards probably won't accept this fact even if you slap them with proof. Sad to see them suck a company's balls so vigorously.
Apple definitely needs design change in their SoCs. Qualcomm is catching up fast and they have the momentum. I can see Apple going with 3x3 HP x HE cores with 6 GPU cores in the future with maybe some advanced battery optimization app. Idk why phones stiill don't have the ability to disable CPU cores like it is possible on desktop. Something like this will definitely help to have both amazing performance and amazing battery life.
@@senpai_xm1 Yeah but imagine how good it would have been if there was an easy option in the settings to safely disable cores automatically when needed or if you wanted the entire time.
The 9200 in the x90 seems to have been the UFS 3.1 128GB version. Also Notice the cooling on the X90 vs the X90 Pro+ only has less than half the size. The x90 is a premium midrange/flagship killer - not a flagship phone. Hence the 9200 will actually be closer to the Snapdragon in the same kind of phone. From what I have seen in other reviews the 9200 is more energy efficient - but a little less fast than 8 Gen 2 overall.
Yeah that's not really true..... You can go watch Geekerwan, Adreno 740 only takes 75% of the power of the Mali G-715 MC-11 to achieve it's performance And when running at a Max wattage it quite easily beats it
not really, these benchmark scores mean very less We'll have to see because even 8 gen 1 and gen 1+ score higher than the a16 but the a16 is still more stable and cooler in gaming and destroys them in single and multi core performance not to mention that games are more optimised on iOS We will have to wait for proper gaming tests to see if the 8 gen 2 heats in gaming and whether if its stable My money is still on the a16 beating it even though it is a small jump over its predecessor the a15
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bro i just upgraded from an s10 to s23+ the camera bump is crazy plus the s23 doesn't heat at all very surprised playing cod mobile ultra settings and the battery feels like it is using solar panel not dropping at all
@@Randomdude21-e In all tests, Snapdragon outperforms, except with the geekbench 5 test, because it relies heavily on energy-saving cores, and at this point Apple excels. In the rest of the tests, Snapdragon outperforms with cpu, gpu, and actual use experience, and no one can deny that.
I didn’t see a very large margin to justify a overcoming, but Qualcomm is on the right track, now we will see at the end of 2023 the A17 Bionic and I expect great surprises since Apple will have to move, otherwise they will lose the post, remembering that Qualcomm has never been on the podium for a long time.
I tested my 12t pro with a cooler and it made it through the 20 minute test with a high stability. I won't play any games without a cooler to make sure my phone stays safe
Das 12T Pro hat den 8+ Gen 1, der eine sehr gute Effizienz hat, weil er bei TSMC gefertigt wurde. Probleme hatte nur der normale 8 Gen 1 und der 888, weil diese bei Samsung gefertigt wurden. Du kannst ganz normal und ohne Hitzeprobleme Spiele spielen mit dem 8+ Gen 1. Nur der 8 Gen 1 hatte Hitzeprobleme.
@@namazlur78 If the phone condenses inside them there's a problem with the phone.I did my research before buying a cooler and I've never heard of a phone dying because of a cooler. It's not gonna condense inside with phone being sealed because along with the heat inside the phone is keeping the moisture out. My phone dying without a cooler is more likely to happen than without it.
@@dredgewalker Use the Google Translator from German to Englisch. Usually, RUclips has a built-in translate function, but not under every video. I didn't pay attention to that when I wrote the comment. But I think you're not so incapable of just copying and translating the text. Google recognizes the language automatically ;)
The biggest shortcoming is the fact that the stupid Samsung is too small. What's the point of making a huge, massive phone with a small screen ???? The whole point of foldables is to have a huge screen. They should make it like Vivo X fold + 8.03 inches
Samsung will probably do it next year. They usually put it on their flagship phone first (S23) then on their flagship foldable (ZFold5 and ZFlip 5) and lastly they'll put it on their Tab S9 whenever that arrives.
Plus not all phones with the same chip perform the same. I mean lets take dimensity 8100, in some phones it manages its temperature very well and some not so much so the manufacturer of the phone really makes up for the difference in heat management. So my point is that I liked dimensity so much but I do believe the gen 2 is better in the end but still, I like seeing dimensity perform this much:)
Android phones have finally have taken the GPU performance crown from iPhone. CPU is next, and I can expect Nuvia SoC from Qualcomm will do the the honors next year.
@@Hengesosu ROG, as good as its software is, can't keep up with Redmagic due its limited hardware. Redmagic has a physical built in fan and they've perfected the technology over the years, no amount of internal cooking system can match up to it. At the same time, they need to work a bit on their software, the lack of updates, and ability to play HFR games, holds it back greatly.
8 gen 1 architecture is an year old now, so its expected to be much more stable with 8+gen 1, while 8 gen 2 on vivo is one of the very first, it will get the stable with time
Probably because apple did not upgrade ther gpu and saved it for this years 3nm. A15 and A16 uses the same, because apple did not want to loose batterylife.
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@@Randomdude21-e Apple always had a considerable GPU performance gain, even on the same node. The A16 has less System Level Cache and the GPU cores are basically the same. You could argue the A16 is a slight downgrade to the A15.
@@wtf17727 it scores higher in geekbench so not all bad i guess, but yeah pretty much the same. They trued new gpu but it took to much power so they waited for thid years A17 3nm since its more efficient. Will be fun to see how it does
The 8 gen1+ actually not valid, xiaomi is limiting the temp for 12t pro. Swap the 8 gen1+ to rog 6 and you will get that 3dmark result without force close
Antutu and Geekbench we can not compare android and ios because of cpu cores, SD/MTK is 8 cores and Bionic is 6 cores that's why the score is so different. But yea Qualcomm and MediaTek cpu is faster than Bionic now
Yeah but bionic is more like Linux with less overhead and optimization so of course it’s 6 cores feels like more. Android even tho it’s closer to linux than iOS since iOS is like OS X and bsod feels more like windows. Of course I got both but prefer android despite that since I love emulation gaming and it’s much easier on android than iOS. iOS isn’t bad for emulation but too much of a headache to do even with the more recent alt store being easier than before when you had to definitely jailbreak or hope a app didn’t expire.
@@keqling7086 not sure if that’s now a days but back in the day yes they were generally bigger than android cpus. Doesn’t matter if it’s a useless phone tho.
even with all this raw power it's still not as good as the 12T pro in game? maybe Vivo just likes to let its chips perform better out of games and controls them pretty hard in games
not really, these benchmark scores mean very less We'll have to see because even 8 gen 1 and gen 1+ score higher than the a16 but the a16 is still more stable and cooler in gaming and destroys them in single and multi core performance not to mention that games are more optimised on iOS We will have to wait for proper gaming tests to see if the 8 gen 2 heats in gaming and whether if its stable My money is still on the a16 beating it even though it is a small jump over its predecessor the a15
865 was more efficient than everything after it, even the 8 gen 1. Looks like that's changed now. Might upgrade to Xiaomi phone of some sort using it soon.
Yes, 865 was the best soc that Qualcomm released for a long time. It's a shame everything is ruled by money, I guess Samsung was a lot cheaper to use and Qualcomm had a lead over other Android chipmakers, so they knew that everyone would still use their chips, even if they're not as good as they could be. I really hope Mediatek doesn't fall far behind and keeps pressure on Qualcomm so that they don't move to Samsung manufacturing again.
It's got similar heat and power draw compared to 8+ and even 8 gen 1... Just the raw numbers are bumped up... So in practical usage it's not even that much better than last gen 😔. But yeah the GPU is a worthwhile upgrade.
I am also waiting Currently I am using 11t pro I was once Sony fan then Huawei Don't like Samsung I am tired of snapdragon Need meadia tech experience let's see what' they have
Apple has been ahead of their competitors for long time, so they decided to make their chip efficient for long battery life, only for their competitors to catch up.
@@alioth2004 I didn’t mean the same chip…but a smaller replica…they have access to 3 or 4 nanometer manufacturing now so they can put the same cores but smaller or Apple can be Apple and just remove something like the charging part, volume keys etc
The best performance on Snapdragon 8gen2 supported by opensource kernel and driver make it can run much emulator. Egg NS, NDS, 3DS, Dolphine, NES, ePSXe, Aether. It also can also boot many os, including Windows 11. Snapdragon and Android also allow per app to use custom driver, like vulkan optimized driver to run the app/game known as game driver.
Why doesn't the vivo X90 pro plus disclose that the temperature is close to 50 degrees after the 3Dmark stress test? According to the data I saw elsewhere, the vivo x90 pro plus became too hot after the test.
Strange how he didn't bother to check the temperature after the GPU stress test unlike the CPU test 6:05. Anyone who has been in this game for a while know these results don't tell us the whole story.
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Funny how after all these years Apple did not make the Strongest SoC and people are now like „DAMN THE SNAPDRAGON IS REALLY STRONG“ but when Apple had the strongest „U never need this Speed anyway“ or „tHe sNaPDraGon iS faster“
FYI y’all are basically competing with the A15, aka last years iPhones and well, regarding CPU it’s still a no diff and if it wasn’t for the temps, even GPU wise it would be a W for Apple.
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Please update iphone to 16.2 and retest if possible, specially genshin impact and stress test as I've seen objective improvements in battery consumption and heat on both.
I had to stop my 12tpro from finishing a benchmark because it felt way too hot. It runs cod mobile brilliantly though and hardly warms up. Battery does heat up considerably when charging though.
@@steadfastgamer snapdragon 888 and 8 gen 1 have been bad compared to Apple's A chips. Energy hogs and not powerful enough. Also they have been with samsung fab instead of tsmc like with the new sd8 gen2.
i think this the same as last year, vivo is reducing performance of the 9200, last year they did this with 9000 when it was able to reach score of 4.5k
Yeah gen 2 seems like a beast. Imo the best snapdragon evolution after the 865. 888 was a complete joke and just a way to allow companies to release another flagship a year later after the 865 ones, and gen 1 altho good is way too hot (hence why it throttles). Gen 2 seems to be a combo of greatness while remaining cool.
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Weird how the Mi 12T Pro could not run the Wildlife test without overheating but ín the stress test after that it did way better than the other phones lol , these benchmarks are not reliable at all
So samsung Will present an overclocked Versión of this, looks interesting, though I think is time to see an upgraded Versión for tablets like the M1 is of the A14
Si pero veremos Te imaginas que Samsung utilice una versión mejorada del 8 gen 2 y ni así pueda superar al vivo x90 pro plus Eso sí va a ser una tremenda decepción 🤔
@@fumme show a source to prove that. Iqoo is a game, performance centric segment of Vivo while X series is for camera so what you are saying makes no sense. Not saying it's impossible but just curious on where u came to know such difference
Use IQOO 11, which comes with SD 8+ Gen 2, best in the market, Has LPDDR 5X, UFS 4.0. (In 2024, we will have a much better 4nm chipset, UFS 5 is in research, LPDDR 6 is in research, so we might get some crazy fast phones)
As much as I know samsung s23 ultra will come with Snapdragon 8 gen 2 made by Samsung foundry not TSMC. And it will be overclocked just like the s22 ultra ultra. which may mean that s23 ultra will not perform the same as other Snapdragon 8 gen 2 phones in terms of stability and battery.
Yes it is pretty good, and stable too while not demanding too much of the battery, it has the momentum for sure lets see how these phones do at long term
Snapdragon Gen 2 is like the Snapdragon 865. Great sustained performance and heat efficiency! I am planning to upgrade this year. Gen 2 looks promising. Thanks for the review sir.
wait for 8+ gen2 bcz it will use 2nd gen 4nm processor
@@ultron6583 who cares lmao
@@fanban2926 I do care.
@@fanban2926 actually many people do care.
@@fanban2926 better heat management
given big like for the wild life extreme stress test. Finally someone who doesn't benchmark just to get some scores
Going from 4200 Geekbench to 5100 with the same efficiency while using the same node is a pretty massive upgrade in my opinion. The GPU is even bigger of an improvement being even faster and more efficient. Also Apple is allegedly using the N4P node which gives them even better performance just from the node while Qualcomm use the N4 node which is about 10% slower.
snapdragon 8 gen 3 will be a massive success
Different node n4 vs n4p
What's a N4 and N4P node?
@@zues121510 н4п лучше эффективнее чем н4
Its only because of the core configuration...8G2 uses one Prime core + 4 performance cores + 3 low power cores.....it substitutes one low power core with one performance core
8 Gen2 will be unbeatable as of now. Until Apple working on 3nm processor which unlocks ground breaking performances
the SD gen3 will be 3nm too
unbeatable are you serious?
Let's hope it is ground breaking and not phone breaking 😅
is 3nm possible?
@@north793 1.4 is possible with silicon
Nice to see the progress Qualcomm has made relative to Apple's SoCs. Google has a lot of catching up to do.
I don’t think it’s not googles goal to have the best performance, I think they’re leaning more to AI capabilities for cameras and stuff.
@@Okamine true
Google's priorities are different from others, and it's fine to not have the most powerful chips
@@Okamine Google Tensor G2 based exynos 2200. Google Tensor G3 based exynos 2300. (the new exynos 23000 will be produced in 2023. used Samsung S22 FE at the same price as Samsung A74 5G, A74 5G was canceled, the launch was replaced by S22 FE) curious soc Samung is working with AMD and Google in 2025. Samsung S23 and S24 series all over the world use Qualcomm's soc. Samsung S22 fe launch after S23 series launch (1 February 2023)
@@loyal4theway159 Google Tensor G2 based exynos 2200. Google Tensor G3 based exynos 2300. (the new exynos 23000 will be produced in 2023. used Samsung S22 FE at the same price as Samsung A74 5G, A74 5G was canceled, the launch was replaced by S22 FE) curious soc Samung is working with AMD and Google in 2025. Samsung S23 and S24 series all over the world use Qualcomm's soc. Samsung S22 fe launch after S23 series launch (1 February 2023)
Can't wait for your battery life review!
Battery life produsen smartphone.
Glad to see you doing more of these kinds of tests finally.
Qualcomm beating Apple in Gpu department is a massive milestone,,,,,and i dont think they will ever let that go. From now on we can safely say Qualcomm will have the best mobile space Gpu for the time.being
Doubt it will last
I heard that Apple currently having some problems to opting a new gpu for their upcoming SoC..perhaps their gpu lineup already reaching its peak..they need to make/steal a new gpu architecture like they did with PowerVR..
That might be the case, but i doubt people will let go of iphones' reputation as having the strongest SOC so easily.
It's been built throughout the years and, well, apple diehards probably won't accept this fact even if you slap them with proof. Sad to see them suck a company's balls so vigorously.
Dimensity 9200 sigue siendo superior al 8 gen 2 😌
@@kheynwharriorofjehova jeova te comio el cerebro al parecer xD
Apple definitely needs design change in their SoCs. Qualcomm is catching up fast and they have the momentum. I can see Apple going with 3x3 HP x HE cores with 6 GPU cores in the future with maybe some advanced battery optimization app. Idk why phones stiill don't have the ability to disable CPU cores like it is possible on desktop. Something like this will definitely help to have both amazing performance and amazing battery life.
We can disable core by rooting
@@senpai_xm1 It should be easier
@@davout5775 oem doesn't want + OnePlus have that option to disable big cluster core
@@senpai_xm1 Yeah but imagine how good it would have been if there was an easy option in the settings to safely disable cores automatically when needed or if you wanted the entire time.
@@davout5775 it's easy way but. ig google implement ai in Android . They want you to track 24/7
Was really really waiting for this 👍
The 9200 in the x90 seems to have been the UFS 3.1 128GB version. Also Notice the cooling on the X90 vs the X90 Pro+ only has less than half the size. The x90 is a premium midrange/flagship killer - not a flagship phone. Hence the 9200 will actually be closer to the Snapdragon in the same kind of phone. From what I have seen in other reviews the 9200 is more energy efficient - but a little less fast than 8 Gen 2 overall.
Gen 2 wins due having 1 big core more.
Time to resurrect the 10 core behemots
Yeah that's not really true.....
You can go watch Geekerwan, Adreno 740 only takes 75% of the power of the Mali G-715 MC-11 to achieve it's performance
And when running at a Max wattage it quite easily beats it
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X90 pro is ufs4.0 that can score up to 1200000antutu
Look at 4:30 smoothness on 8Gen2 compared to A16. 8Gen2 GPU vs A17 will be interesting cuz it has crushed A16.
8 Gen 2 competes against A16. A17 will be against 8 Gen 3. Let’s not twist it.
@@TheRealNightShot Yup but it feels like 8Gen2 will be able to hold its own even against the A17's GPU at this point.
@@devilefty3814 Heh that would be absolutely groundbreaking, I’ll give you that
Yo I thought I was the only person who noticed. But yeah, you can see the low frame rate.
not really, these benchmark scores mean very less
We'll have to see because even 8 gen 1 and gen 1+ score higher than the a16 but the a16 is still more stable and cooler in gaming and destroys them in single and multi core performance not to mention that games are more optimised on iOS
We will have to wait for proper gaming tests to see if the 8 gen 2 heats in gaming and whether if its stable
My money is still on the a16 beating it even though it is a small jump over its predecessor the a15
GR: "The benchmark is done." Tensor: "Wait wait, wait!"
Tensor is 💩💩
Snapdragon Gen 2 looks promising. Gonna upgrade to S23U from S10.
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Nice jump hahahaha i not jumping since my s20s 865 still holding well hehehehe
bro i just upgraded from an s10 to s23+ the camera bump is crazy plus the s23 doesn't heat at all very surprised playing cod mobile ultra settings and the battery feels like it is using solar panel not dropping at all
Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 has become so powerful that it cannot be compared with any other processor
Still loost in cpu against a16 so😂
Not that powerful.
@@Randomdude21-e
In all tests, Snapdragon outperforms, except with the geekbench 5 test, because it relies heavily on energy-saving cores, and at this point Apple excels. In the rest of the tests, Snapdragon outperforms with cpu, gpu, and actual use experience, and no one can deny that.
@@Randomdude21-e
+ My device has A15 Bionic 5 core graphics, but truth be told
I didn’t see a very large margin to justify a overcoming, but Qualcomm is on the right track, now we will see at the end of 2023 the A17 Bionic and I expect great surprises since Apple will have to move, otherwise they will lose the post, remembering that Qualcomm has never been on the podium for a long time.
@@SergioWolf843
The margin is not that small compared to the latest processor from Qualcomm and the A17 will compare to the Snapdragon 8gen 3
I tested my 12t pro with a cooler and it made it through the 20 minute test with a high stability. I won't play any games without a cooler to make sure my phone stays safe
Das 12T Pro hat den 8+ Gen 1, der eine sehr gute Effizienz hat, weil er bei TSMC gefertigt wurde.
Probleme hatte nur der normale 8 Gen 1 und der 888, weil diese bei Samsung gefertigt wurden.
Du kannst ganz normal und ohne Hitzeprobleme Spiele spielen mit dem 8+ Gen 1.
Nur der 8 Gen 1 hatte Hitzeprobleme.
And after 6 months the phone will die. Because of condensation inside
@@namazlur78 If the phone condenses inside them there's a problem with the phone.I did my research before buying a cooler and I've never heard of a phone dying because of a cooler. It's not gonna condense inside with phone being sealed because along with the heat inside the phone is keeping the moisture out. My phone dying without a cooler is more likely to happen than without it.
@@FINNdeischgut no idea what you're saying bro
@@dredgewalker Use the Google Translator from German to Englisch.
Usually, RUclips has a built-in translate function, but not under every video. I didn't pay attention to that when I wrote the comment. But I think you're not so incapable of just copying and translating the text. Google recognizes the language automatically ;)
Can't wait for the fold 5 with the plus version of gen 2, hopefully they address all the shortcomings of 4
Samsung's ROLLABLE phone should also be launching with the 8+ Gen 2. Very excited. 😎
The biggest shortcoming is the fact that the stupid Samsung is too small.
What's the point of making a huge, massive phone with a small screen ????
The whole point of foldables is to have a huge screen.
They should make it like Vivo X fold + 8.03 inches
Why tf does any of the oems don't put these Qualcomm chips on a huge Android tablet? It'll be nuts.
Samsung will probably do it next year. They usually put it on their flagship phone first (S23) then on their flagship foldable (ZFold5 and ZFlip 5) and lastly they'll put it on their Tab S9 whenever that arrives.
@@FrostArchon yea, always late smh
That's some really impressive results from the 8 gen 2!
Helo
Dimensity 9200 chega bem próximo ao 8gen2, creio que os dois são excelentes chipsets top de linha que temos disponíveis no mercado
Sim
Plus not all phones with the same chip perform the same. I mean lets take dimensity 8100, in some phones it manages its temperature very well and some not so much so the manufacturer of the phone really makes up for the difference in heat management. So my point is that I liked dimensity so much but I do believe the gen 2 is better in the end but still, I like seeing dimensity perform this much:)
Dimensity 9200 tá melhor que os Snap 8+gen1 pra trás, mas o 8gen2 está monstro
ViVo x90 pro chegou esse processador dimensity 9200 e mim suprenendie
além de ter um preço bem mais acessível
It's good to see the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 has good cooling. My S22 Ultra can get hot pretty easily sometimes
Could be exynos cpu..use s22
@@MrBesmir7 ？ 8 gen1 still gets too much heat
@@japaneselearning9607really? Then its a win for s23 since its amazing
Even 14 pro gets hot from just charging
@@simos672 Cry but when got hot while charging it's not about 8Gen3 chip but 120w charging speed
Android phones have finally have taken the GPU performance crown from iPhone.
CPU is next, and I can expect Nuvia SoC from Qualcomm will do the the honors next year.
Mobile SOC with Oryon cores(nuvia based) will be out only by 2025.
Wait..i thought that ADRENO GPU is still the king..android CPU lineup that’s bottleneck the GPU to perform at its highest😅
@@mikiswordbreaker4805 Adreno was actually founded first by ATI Radeon. They later sold it to Qualcomm. Source Google.
@@Sphynx93rkn Fun fact : If you re-arrange ADRENO, you get RADEON :)
@@sriicasm Lmao that's a good one. Never thought about this. I also love how AMD drivers have "Adrenaline" in their name.
I can't imagine how powerful RedMagic phone will be with their active cooling internal fan and Snap 8 Gen 2.
wait for ROG 7
@@Hengesosu ROG, as good as its software is, can't keep up with Redmagic due its limited hardware. Redmagic has a physical built in fan and they've perfected the technology over the years, no amount of internal cooking system can match up to it.
At the same time, they need to work a bit on their software, the lack of updates, and ability to play HFR games, holds it back greatly.
@@steadfastgamer ROG with their cooling fan is quite competitive imo. But yeah having something inside the phone is way more convenient.
@@steadfastgamer Yeah but Redmagic Software sucks compared to ROG
S23 ultra will also have a internal cooling that will help but yeah redmagic is going to have real cooling with fan etc
Thank you for the tests!
I hope in future videos you test Iqoo 11 and Xiaomi 13 pro. They are somewhat similar
8 gen 1 architecture is an year old now, so its expected to be much more stable with 8+gen 1, while 8 gen 2 on vivo is one of the very first, it will get the stable with time
Damn, seems to finally be a really good year for Android Flagships.
Probably because apple did not upgrade ther gpu and saved it for this years 3nm. A15 and A16 uses the same, because apple did not want to loose batterylife.
Becaws we android Indian are is bery smarter sirr, we use bgmi and antutu to determinate bettar chipset sirr
Also can yu lend me urr androyit phone for gam- study sirr??
@@Randomdude21-e Apple always had a considerable GPU performance gain, even on the same node.
The A16 has less System Level Cache and the GPU cores are basically the same.
You could argue the A16 is a slight downgrade to the A15.
@@wtf17727 it scores higher in geekbench so not all bad i guess, but yeah pretty much the same.
They trued new gpu but it took to much power so they waited for thid years A17 3nm since its more efficient. Will be fun to see how it does
The 8 gen1+ actually not valid, xiaomi is limiting the temp for 12t pro. Swap the 8 gen1+ to rog 6 and you will get that 3dmark result without force close
We NEED a battery drain test of the 8 Gen 2 vs the 9200
Antutu and Geekbench we can not compare android and ios because of cpu cores, SD/MTK is 8 cores and Bionic is 6 cores that's why the score is so different.
But yea Qualcomm and MediaTek cpu is faster than Bionic now
Yeah but bionic is more like Linux with less overhead and optimization so of course it’s 6 cores feels like more. Android even tho it’s closer to linux than iOS since iOS is like OS X and bsod feels more like windows. Of course I got both but prefer android despite that since I love emulation gaming and it’s much easier on android than iOS. iOS isn’t bad for emulation but too much of a headache to do even with the more recent alt store being easier than before when you had to definitely jailbreak or hope a app didn’t expire.
still those 6 cores are bigger than the ones in android cpus as far as i know
@@keqling7086 not sure if that’s now a days but back in the day yes they were generally bigger than android cpus. Doesn’t matter if it’s a useless phone tho.
SD8G2 looks incredible. Hopefully the Samsung kills it with the S23 Ultra, looking to upgrade from the S21U this year
even with all this raw power it's still not as good as the 12T pro in game? maybe Vivo just likes to let its chips perform better out of games and controls them pretty hard in games
Hello.
Could you do a Genshin Impact load test, world load + map move, it's very interesting to compare UFS 4.0 and iPhone NVME.
Heli
Looks like 2023 will be a great year for Qualcomm
not really, these benchmark scores mean very less
We'll have to see because even 8 gen 1 and gen 1+ score higher than the a16 but the a16 is still more stable and cooler in gaming and destroys them in single and multi core performance not to mention that games are more optimised on iOS
We will have to wait for proper gaming tests to see if the 8 gen 2 heats in gaming and whether if its stable
My money is still on the a16 beating it even though it is a small jump over its predecessor the a15
@@irtiza4262 isheep moment lol 😆
@@-Blue-_ well whatever you say
R u planning to make videos on the newly launched Redmi K60 series? I'm curious on how they perform since I'm planning to upgrade soon.
App live 5:45 what app is that?
'Cpu throttle' you can find it in play store
Off topic. Golden Retriever breed is one of the most beautiful and also trainable breed I've ever worked with.
865 was more efficient than everything after it, even the 8 gen 1. Looks like that's changed now. Might upgrade to Xiaomi phone of some sort using it soon.
Yes, 865 was the best soc that Qualcomm released for a long time.
It's a shame everything is ruled by money, I guess Samsung was a lot cheaper to use and Qualcomm had a lead over other Android chipmakers, so they knew that everyone would still use their chips, even if they're not as good as they could be.
I really hope Mediatek doesn't fall far behind and keeps pressure on Qualcomm so that they don't move to Samsung manufacturing again.
@@wtf17727 kinda worried about Apple buying out all of TSMC's 3nm stock though
Best hardware tester
Please do some pc processors tests
So the gen 2 is the ultimate chipset on a smartphone 💙
It's got similar heat and power draw compared to 8+ and even 8 gen 1... Just the raw numbers are bumped up... So in practical usage it's not even that much better than last gen 😔. But yeah the GPU is a worthwhile upgrade.
@Aryan Gupta yes they do
@@eudaemons_1 not at all lol
No A16 is better CPU, 8 gen 2 is better GPU
@@ifrankenstein7455 👍 💯 Agree
Hope it will be the "new 865"
You mean 870 😘
@@cocobos 870 is a 865
Well
But gpu is locked 🥴
@@cocobos 870 is 865 without mmwave 5g
Yeah..one of the best SoC for Android..close competitor to Apple A13 at that time
Looking forward to comparisons with Xiaomi 13T pro / D9200+!
I am also waiting
Currently I am using 11t pro
I was once Sony fan then Huawei
Don't like Samsung
I am tired of snapdragon
Need meadia tech experience let's see what' they have
I Expected the SD 8 2 to blow everyone away!
I’m happy there’s a chip to make apple step up…they’re too comfortable…but I think they are going to put the M1 chip in a iPhone soon
Bruh size of m1 is big to be put in a smartphone lmao
It's like asking someone to put i9 12 th gen in a smartphone
If it fit.. The M1 chip is big right?
Apple has been ahead of their competitors for long time, so they decided to make their chip efficient for long battery life, only for their competitors to catch up.
@@alioth2004 I didn’t mean the same chip…but a smaller replica…they have access to 3 or 4 nanometer manufacturing now so they can put the same cores but smaller or Apple can be Apple and just remove something like the charging part, volume keys etc
@@samuelleblanc4331 Actually the M1 is based on A14 with more cores and transistors.
O gen2 deu uma puta queda de desempenho e o gen1 ficou instavel mesmo com 45 graus .
i think 9200 antutu memory score is less because 128gb model uses ufs 3.1, whereas 256gb and pro plus use ufs4.0
+50k GPU that dimensity 9200 loss
@@Animatorfanfiction11 pero sigue siendo mejor el MediaTek en cpu
@@kheynwharriorofjehova bro English
@@Animatorfanfiction11 the comment is about memory why are you talking about GPU?
What is he saying? They are two different chips. So if you get a x90 or the x90+ with 256gb you get ufs 4.0?
The best performance on Snapdragon 8gen2 supported by opensource kernel and driver make it can run much emulator. Egg NS, NDS, 3DS, Dolphine, NES, ePSXe, Aether. It also can also boot many os, including Windows 11.
Snapdragon and Android also allow per app to use custom driver, like vulkan optimized driver to run the app/game known as game driver.
This cpu has better heat management than snapdragon 888 and 8 gen 1 when you emulate?
Why doesn't the vivo X90 pro plus disclose that the temperature is close to 50 degrees after the 3Dmark stress test? According to the data I saw elsewhere, the vivo x90 pro plus became too hot after the test.
Strange how he didn't bother to check the temperature after the GPU stress test unlike the CPU test 6:05. Anyone who has been in this game for a while know these results don't tell us the whole story.
I am definitely going to upgrade to s23 when it comes out
The s23 won't have good cooling like it should. Samsung been so fucking cheap lately
@@alanclark9000 but the chipset itself has good thermal management even with normal cooling system it can work efficiently
Brother, if you change your cell phone, could you give me the one you currently have? I have a low-end cell phone and it is no longer useful for almost anything. I would like to change my cell phone but my financial resources do not allow it
Coming here to check the 8 Gen 2 now that there's news that Poco F6 is coming. Love me a sustained FPS with good temp. Gonna wait for its release.
Man I'm really surprised to see how poorly the pixel 7 pro did. I love the phone but I'm surprised to see how behind it is.
Will we get performance review for Xiaomi 13 pro
Will definitely upgrade my exynos s22 ultra to the s23 ultra with the 8 gen 2! Going to be a huge improvement!
I am using s22 ultra
With SD8 gen 1
Haha here i manage 2 swim over s20 ultra 865 from US 2 Singapore hahahaha and yes official samsung here uses🤢🤮exynos
No it won't. Why do you need to consume so much.
Yeah, Exynos is trash compared to other chipsets
@@chriswest2290yes it will what are you saying
Funny how after all these years Apple did not make the Strongest SoC and people are now like
„DAMN THE SNAPDRAGON IS REALLY STRONG“ but when Apple had the strongest
„U never need this Speed anyway“ or
„tHe sNaPDraGon iS faster“
FYI y’all are basically competing with the A15, aka last years iPhones and well, regarding CPU it’s still a no diff and if it wasn’t for the temps, even GPU wise it would be a W for Apple.
No
🤣🤣 i like how apple fanboys cannot digest the truth
And Exynos is excellent
Update!!!!
I found a solution for genshin impact players who is using exynos 990 phone or any exynos that have m5 cores heating problems ,
There's an app called gi tuner
That app allowing you to turn off any core you want when playing genshin impact
You can make all the cores work or make only little cores works
What I did ?
I turned off the two m5 or mongoose cores and the experience completely changed
The game becomes smoother I got more 10 fps
There is no more lag
The temperature down by 7 degrees
Before it reaches 45c at 60fps gaming
Now only 38c
I recommend this application
Nice
Hello, what is the name of the application?
In a few years we will have laptop performance of 2020 in smartphones😨 usually phones are 10-15 years behind but now only 5 years!!!
Please update iphone to 16.2 and retest if possible, specially genshin impact and stress test as I've seen objective improvements in battery consumption and heat on both.
Iphone performance is irrelevant anyways if you buyin to the walked garden you have no choice other than A15 🤷🏼♂️
Dosent matter in gpu apple a16 gpu still less efficent
Doesn't matter 8 Gen 2 is still powerfull
I had to stop my 12tpro from finishing a benchmark because it felt way too hot. It runs cod mobile brilliantly though and hardly warms up. Battery does heat up considerably when charging though.
I like how people have busted my chops over saying pixel 7 is trash. This proves it
Finally a decent snapdragon.
Decent?
Bro wdym decent SD has been the lead android SOC for years now😭
@@steadfastgamer snapdragon 888 and 8 gen 1 have been bad compared to Apple's A chips. Energy hogs and not powerful enough. Also they have been with samsung fab instead of tsmc like with the new sd8 gen2.
@@ippothedestroyer blame Samsung for fucking the chips up
why didnt you measure the temp right after the tests? :(
Would u compare the 8 gen 2 with the m2 ipad? I know it doesnt fair but gamers things do
It's not a fair comparison because it's literally a PC chip in a tablet that's not mobile no more
If you want, compare your M2 with Intel and AMD oh I forget those 2 are completely destroy M2 lol 😆
@@-Blue-_ my 12700f doesn’t show anything without gpu xD
lets wait for the rog 7 pro :]
Why Samsung and iqoo not included??
thanks very much waited video
i think this the same as last year, vivo is reducing performance of the 9200, last year they did this with 9000 when it was able to reach score of 4.5k
Yeah gen 2 seems like a beast. Imo the best snapdragon evolution after the 865. 888 was a complete joke and just a way to allow companies to release another flagship a year later after the 865 ones, and gen 1 altho good is way too hot (hence why it throttles). Gen 2 seems to be a combo of greatness while remaining cool.
Please stop comparing AnTuTu cross platform it's not a cross platform benchmark (as stated in their website)
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If this is just the regular 8gen2 imagine how fast the special 8gen2 the s23 series will pack
Thanks for one more video! I'm up to buy a new device, between s22 and s23, I'm in doubt if makes sense to wait the launch of s23 or if I do enjoy the s22 for now... do you have a suggestion? seems the biggest difference is the processor and the battery.
Snapdragon 8+ Gen1 👍
why an 8gen1 phone is missing?
coz its an piece of shi8
@@j0ps-xfx i agree. but would like to see the gap between them
K60, K60 Pro, K60 Ultra, which one of those do you recommend?
Gen 2 is looking good, very good, I wonder who makes Snapdragon processors?
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Weird how the Mi 12T Pro could not run the Wildlife test without overheating but ín the stress test after that it did way better than the other phones lol , these benchmarks are not reliable at all
So samsung Will present an overclocked Versión of this, looks interesting, though I think is time to see an upgraded Versión for tablets like the M1 is of the A14
Si pero veremos
Te imaginas que Samsung utilice una versión mejorada del 8 gen 2 y ni así pueda superar al vivo x90 pro plus
Eso sí va a ser una tremenda decepción 🤔
Tensor chip still use X1 core but the others competitor already use X3 core maybe this is why Tensor is the slowest of them all
OMG snapdragon 8 Gen 2 😮 wow 👏 👏
Hi can u do Iqoo 11 Genshin impact fps test with its 144fps interpolation settings enabled ? Really wanna see how's the overall fps stabilization
It's cooling system surface is half of that vivo x90 pro+ so you can expect it to be less stable and more hot than x90 pro+
@@fumme show a source to prove that. Iqoo is a game, performance centric segment of Vivo while X series is for camera so what you are saying makes no sense. Not saying it's impossible but just curious on where u came to know such difference
1:31 that moment when xiaomi is the cooler phone 👀
Can you test pubg mobile (global version) with heavy stress
wait till THE BEAST show up. 1st Feb'23🔥
Waiting for 3.36 ghz / 719 mhz sd 8 gen to be tested
S23 u
Without good cooling it will be disappointment.Peak versus sustained.
@@1fairi I didn't expected anything from samsung 😂
@@1fairi also produced by Samsung and not TSMC.
@@T233-l3e bruh we are talking about samsung s23 ultra
Not samsung fabrication
Qualcomm isn't gonna do this again
8 gen2 😍💪🏼
Use IQOO 11, which comes with SD 8+ Gen 2, best in the market, Has LPDDR 5X, UFS 4.0.
(In 2024, we will have a much better 4nm chipset, UFS 5 is in research, LPDDR 6 is in research, so we might get some crazy fast phones)
😂😂😂
Vivo x90 pro plus is the vivo strongest phone bro with last tech
Lol. That Iqoo 11 throttled badly in "Tech Nick" benchmark test. And got even lower FPS than 8+Gen 1 in 3D Mark GPU stress test.
IQOO 11 is worst sd 8 gen 2 phone 👎🏻😂
Google and Tensor G2 with shameless mediocre performance.
😂 that's not a bad performance but the thing is its a flegship
Can I play diablo on ultra graphics or league of legends with 90fps on the vivo x90 pro +?
wow🙀
👍Great Insights
hopeful on the sustained Peak-performance from the upcoming MotoX40 📱📱
8 gen 2 rocks... A beast!!!!
You are the best!!! Way better!
everybody gangsta till apple sticks the M2 chip on every iphones
As much as I know samsung s23 ultra will come with Snapdragon 8 gen 2 made by Samsung foundry not TSMC. And it will be overclocked just like the s22 ultra ultra. which may mean that s23 ultra will not perform the same as other Snapdragon 8 gen 2 phones in terms of stability and battery.
I am planning to go with a device that contains the new Dimensity 9200+ processor because it sounds really interesting.
This available, the iqoo neo 8 pro, literally no game demands it, runs the genshin impact at 61 fps stable
Yes it is pretty good, and stable too while not demanding too much of the battery, it has the momentum for sure lets see how these phones do at long term
Antutu scores on iOS and Android aren't comparable
Sd 8gen 2 and diminsty 9200 are just too much powerful
X90 dimensity 9200 cortex x3 cortex x2?
The ultimate Soc battle of 2022