This might dominate the budget phone market!
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- Опубликовано: 26 июл 2024
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Get ready to dive into the world of the Snapdragon 7+ Gen 2! In this video preview, we'll explore the key features, performance, and efficiency of this new powerful smartphone chip. Discover how the 7+ Gen 2 revolutionizes mobile gaming for budget phones and flagship killers. You won't want to miss this in-depth look at the new midfield king!
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Video Chapters
0:00 Intro
1:43 Brilliant Intro
3:00 Architecture
5:52 CPU Performance/Efficiency
7:23 GPU Performance/Efficiency
8:26 Gaming
9:57 Outro
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We need another DIY Gaming phone
With 8gen2 💀
@@gamingwithabid1166 Nah with 8+ gen2🗿
its called RedMagic with stock ui
I think the RedMagic 8 was inspired by these guys.... I wanna see how much farther these guys can take the 8+gen2 chip
@@makuthreesixty8228 but Redmagic has been making these devices for like 5 yrs or so
You guys really have the very best graphs, very informative and intuitive. The perf per watt lines are what I come here for
True
true reviewer use genshin as benchmark not just some esport games
Intuitiveness is underrated in graphs, although I would like these to be exponential so as to not bias too much towards the 10-12watt and upper ranges of power which barely happen - even gaming is often 4-6 watts
I prefer using emulators like dolphin and aethersx2 and test heavy games in a higher resolution each like 1x to 4x and so I'm not a fan of genshin because it's online I hate online games well that's just my opinion though 🤷
@@user-uu1tm7bk4r You hate Online games? Holy shit, You don't live to play games with your friends, or maybe you don't have any?
Geekerwan casually regularly coming and dropping some of the most detailed and useful information for choosing a phone indirectly and leaving
I'm rooting for Mediatek SoCs to reach custom ROM and emulation support levels equal to those of Snapdragon. Qualcomm has a history of jacking up its SoC prices to unreasonable levels, whereas Mediatek devices usually provide better price-to-performance ratios (not sure about the Dimensity 9000 in that respect). We need more competitors in the phone SoC space just like in the PC CPU and GPU segments.
Mediatek will only be better at emulation if Arm ever open-sources their GPU drivers, which they never will. Mediatek is at Arm's mercy, and they can't do anything about it. I hate Arm with a passion.
@@arkhalis3682 wait, really? I thought ARM's Mali GPU drivers were already open-source. This is so dang annoying!
@@fancyyahoo ikr. Mali GPU drivers aren't open source only Adreno has open source drivers. Adreno also has its long history of app support. Hence why Snapdragon phones are so so much better at emulation with the least amount of graphical bugs, unlike Mali. Idk why Arm doesn't open source their drivers yet.
@@arkhalis3682 this is so infuriating, considering that the Dimensity 4-digit-number SoCs do seem to have become capable of giving Qualcomm Snapdragon a run for its money nowadays. I used vague wording because I haven't tested any Dimensity phone myself yet, but they do look quite promising, according to most reviews.
because MTK is potentially unstable, due to closed source code, even MTK 8100 got custom roms (still the GPU section really sux)
I hope it gets even cheaper with the time
nah, new one out expensive > old models cheaper
@GOOD FARMER it will.
@@luckydepressedguy8981 redmi note 12 turbo in China starting only $299
Competition is key, make sure to praise any competitor equally. Competition benefits us, the consumers.
@@khunrocky606 that's China. Global gonna add an extra $100.
Using Poco F5 rn i could said 7+ gen 2 is insane, Big power and really good thermal. And you know what? This phone only cost $300 😶 and yes every manufacturer should use this SOC on their mid-range phone
I also have it which os is best for it( miui vs hyper os) for gaming and battery life
You guys are the best in providing detailed reviews of tech stuff and also in explaining with great illustrations and useful charts! Your Chinese channel is filled with hundreds of informative videos, you should start giving English captions for old videos. I hope that you get more sponsors and post more often in English.
Edit: If you post more on your Chinese channel, please consider using English for those graphs and other illustrations as well.
Naming is one thing another one is pricing. I highly doubt we will see the 7+ Gen 2 much in the sub 500$ weight class the 7 Series usually occupied. I think this if anything is a successor to the very popular 870 in terms of power and featureset.
I was just about to say this, I have a poco F3 & was looking for a successor to the 870.
Sadly in afraid you're right
so do you mean 7+G2 will be below $500 or above? so far the Redmi Note 12 turbo China pricing is $290, I cant imagine it being more than $350 for international pricing
@@ca9inec0mic58 350? you're kidding? right? 🤣
@@ca9inec0mic58 Not with today's inflation rates. It will be expensive chip, no new SoC have being cheaper than the old generation.
Can you make your power efficiency chart available online? So anyone can go in and compare chips he's interested in?
One could turn all off and just compare ds 8100 Vs 8200 or else..
Again great work btw.
Looking forward to another videos!
It would be great if he had a webpage
google socpk
They did have one that contains charts that compare the CPU, GPU, and power efficiency for all mobile chips, but it is only available in Chinese... But I think the charts are OK to understand. Since external links in comments will be automatically removed, you can try to search for "socpk".
They actually have one but in Chinese, and I think they haven’t mentioned it yet on here RUclips. It’s called socpk. A great website with informative graphs
Nice Idea!
the 7 plus gen 2 is undebatable a great SOC but i hope QUALCOMM does not place a premium on it which would kill the point of its entire existence. i hope the next gen of this is based on intel 3 or TSMC 3x(intel 3 is rumored to support 4ghz like a pieco of cake and can get up to 5.7/5.8Ghz so a little worse than intel 7 clocks) for better voltage regulation which is a problem on this CPU which makes it less efficient than it should be according to its specs.
so far it looking good with $290 Redmi Note 12 Turbo (china pricing)
I ordered a Redmi Note 12 Turbo with 16GB RAM and 1TB ROM for $379.
@@vijayzhou9861 wherr you bought at?
Can u tell me what does SOC means ?
@@edel257 a system on chip means a SOC, everything needed to run a computer is present on that single chip
The level of smooth animations in this video is really incredible, setting a real high bar...
Those comprehensive graphs are what differentiate you from another reviewer/analyst. Well done💯
Great seeing you back at it!
Agree!
I can't wait for you guys to post more. Incredible quality of testing and very entertaining to watch. Thank you!
While this isn’t really applicable to me at the moment, I can’t help but enjoy the video, you guys have by far and away the best processor testing of any channel.
long time no see and youre back with sponsors, congrats on the new achievement
Love the quality on Geekerwan's videos. It's still a few years until I get a new phone. But I hope that until then this chip gets cheap and optimized. The performance is amazing.
As someone who will be switching phones next year, I'll be eagerly looking for a phone that has this chip. This would be a huge jump from my current Snapdragon 778G, which delivers around 520-540K max on Antutu, so the 7+ Gen 2 might give me double the performance which is absolutely crazy, it's not as crazy as the 4x performance jump from the 2018 Kirin 659 to the Snapdragon 778G, but damn, If an affordable enough phone launches with this chip, I won't think twice about buying it
Poco F5 is out. Did you buy it?
Can't believe geekawarn only has just over 150k subs.. is it because of his painfully honest and detailed reviews?.😂 I love his videos to be honest
in fact,he has 3540k sub in China biggest video website bilibili.I would say he is the most responsible and comprehensive and honest blogger i have seen!😊
189sub
because lack of english videos. his channel in china is the most popular. if geekerwan dedicated himself on english content, he would be having more subs than he has right now
As usual, a real pleasure to watch your benchmark.
Big shout out to the team and keep the high quality work going. Take care of yourselfs.
you guys are the best, your graph are out of world level, truly nice , keep it up
This is the only channel I've notifications on for. I crave more such high-quality content.
Can u do such detailed comparisions between buying old flagship vs new mid range for same price!?
Bro i just watched your video and this is the best i've ever watched details about phone cpu and gpu
Could you let us know how you get those power scaling Geekbench benchmarks done.
Also, you should do these power scaling benchmarks for laptop/desktop CPUs as well; I would love to know if a desktop CPU could be undervolted down and get similar performance (since they use the same 'Architecture' /core configuration sometimes)
It's been 7 months since this video released.
So far only two phones use the 7+ gen 2. Redmi Note 12 Turbo/Poco F5 and Realme GT Neo 5 SE. It's unlikely more phones will use it.
The reason for this is the high price of 7+ gen 2 relative to it's midrange status.
7 gen 3 is rumoured to have less performance than the 7+ gen 2 but it'll present better profit margins for the manufacturers (to the detriment of the consumers).
I myself am using a 7+ gen 2 phone and I'm extremely happy with it's performance and especially it's battery life. I would've highly recommended a 7+ gen 2 phone if it wasn't for the fact that Android 14 is just round the corner and if you buy a 7+ gen 2 phone now, you'll get an Android 13 phone and have to almost immediately update to 14. Which means you'll get almost a year less worth of Android updates.
Goodbye 7+ gen 2. You were too good for this world.
If you guys can make a video about the whole entire Xiaomi 12 series lineup, yes all of them... That would be a legendary comparison and much appreciated!
I have always told poeple. Buy last years flagship instead of todays mid tier device. 800 series chips were just plain better even years after release compared to ANY 700 series chip. I think the only company that managed to utilize them well was google with the Pixel A series but even then, the flagship pixels were on huge discounts few months after launch.
This used to be true until 778g came. Now they get outperformed in like 2 years.
This would be bad advice in the year of the 888 and midrange chipsets like the dimensity 8100....
So that rule of yours is slowly getting worse
@@viyusavery248 maybe in performance, but everything else still hold true in terms of features, camera, etc...
Found this channel a few hours ago and already binged bout 5+ videos in a row. Absolutely fantastic content! Also, what's the song playing from 7:23 to 8:25 (during the GPU performance section)? It's an absolute banger!
You upload one video in several months but it's always worth waiting for
Thanks to you I don't have to watch tens of reviewers to come to a conclusion
in his main Chinese channel, he's active
you may consider to go to bilibili , the mianland china platform that we use . However , u may need a tramslater .
@@frankiman6977 what's the name
@@thatguy8841 just type geekerwan in the search engine...
@@thatguy8841 it's called 極客灣，you can also type Geekerwan
You probably have a lot to do.. but I hope you post more frequently on this English version of geekerwan.. your approach to statistics gives you a massive advantage in the English space
Where it is common practice for Chinese reviews, this in-depth method is not even present on sites like gsmarena please don't underestimate the potential of your channel
Thanks for the review man, information delivered perfectly. Btw, huge fan of your analytics.
Love your detailed analysis. Keep breaking down things. This is empowering. 👍👍👍
Wow, these videos are really refreshing. Great explanations, amazing visuals and overall just a clear concise video.
This reminds me of 650 it was the last actually good midrange (beating 810 while being cheaper and more efficient)
Setting benchmarks in mobile chipset review! More deep dives, please.
Do Dimensity & Exy-, cough, Tensor chips too.
You're videos are the reason that am still using a 865 chip and not upgrading to any of those new flagships
If you ever thought of upgrading one day. Go for atleast a 8gen2 from 865. You would notice triple performance on emulators
@@dominiclynx8886 i don't push my phone to the limit with high demanding games and video editing apps ,but that was my plan when I've seen their latest video ,am gonna directly upgrade to the gen 2 or go for the more affordable dimensity 8100
@@MH3200 why not the 7+ Gen 2?
@@ca9inec0mic58 8 gen 2 will last longer and 8100 is older thus it cheaper and widly used and many phones
@@MH3200 I'm still using the Snapdragon 865, it's still an incredibly fast chip in 2023. I still think it'll be good for another 3 years before needing an upgrade. But, I'll probably upgrade in a year's time because my phone's software support is about to end in 2024...
another update of this vid plz i really like all the comparison of chipsets especially if ur looking to be efficient on ur upgrades
AH yes! I've been waiting for your uploads! I'm really glad I discovered this channel! IT IS A HOLY GRAIL!
I would love if Geekerwan did a retrospective series into older flagship SoCs, like Exynos 9810, which I feel is very misunderstood.
Great video, please keep up making more video like this, your style of video are really like digital foundry mobile version of video 🙌🙌🙌
One of the biggest problems with Mediatek chips are the drivers. Although it can display raw performance in some synthetic benchs, it fails to deliver in emulators, for instance.
Excellent video, super high quality and interesting content every time. 7+ gen 2 looks to be a great chip
Hopefully Qualcomm prices it competitively,as it has to fill the huge shoes of 778G.
Otherwise,Mediatek will steal Qualcomm's lunch with its newer 6000/8000 series chips.
Great work!
I hope you grow more.. i really like this style of content.. keep it up guys
Great detailed video and analysis, it'd be cool to see this chip in the nothing phone 2
Excellent Job. Finally i have a idea of how these cpu work. Thx.
I was always curious if any technicians out there can change a phones chipset like by ordering if they have any supplier just so you could go to him have your phone upgraded and make it catch up with new ones. In that case you won't need to buy a new phone. If only I pursued my course up to 4 years, I would definitely study more and enter this world of creating smartphones.
This is a completely informative video for us geeks who prioritized power, efficiency and convenience in terms of availing the device.
Hey, your channel is so in depth I love it! Can I expect a Xiaomi 12T pro review? and comparing to other phones would be amazing!!
Mostt details yet simple to understand on chipset topic. ❤
More content, more graphs, we love to see you guys work restless🎉
Best smartphone SoC reviewers on RUclips, period. I'm grateful for your English dubs, English captions on your Chinese channel are not the same.
I have gained alot of knowledge from your channel mann thank u so much
I think the Idea of selling your last years Flagship chips slightly downclocked in MId-Tier gives you a as Manufacturer new Number for better sales and for the consumer its more Powerfull devices at lower Prices
plz make another Gaming phone or insane Battery or Other mods to Phones.... seriously your channel is awesome keep it up
Your videos simply the best, cheers from Venezuela
Please upload often
you got your hands on qualcom preview phone !!!!! you are amazing
Nice detailed explanation thanks bro
I can't wait for the developments in the budget smartphone market when I'm going to buy my next phone in 3-4 years
Is there a link for all these graphs so we can see it online? I'd love to see this chart for the specific CPU online more than ever before now
Awesome video, very detailed test
impressive explanation. i like the your voice too, its clear to hear
Thank you, excellent overview.
Wow finally he is back
Great video Fei👍🏼
I think you should get your hands in a Poco F5 and re-do the performance and efficency comparisons, now with a propper retail and mass production phone and with the most fabrication defects of the chip probably detected and fixed after some months
Finally you posted
Wow!! You guys have sponsorship now!!! Awesome!!
Best reviews, keep it up, a lot of insight thank you
Very informative, I learn a lot watching you video. Got myself the redmi k50i instead of the Snapdragon coz of your video 👍👍👍
Props to your editor /🎉
And tbh, my last phone upgrade was 5 years ago, it's now work like current Gen mid range, and gonna last for another few years more
Hey! At last after a long wait. We really love and want more about the DIY gaming phone
please make videod regularly......your videos are real deal.
Very power efficient.. Do you have any Videos for the MD 7200?
you guys are the best on youtube period!
Amazing chip for the upper midrange/flagship killer segment. First one using it will be the Redmi Note 12 Turbo, which night be released as a Poco worldwide
Yeah ! It's already launched
Awesome ! nice video like always .
Well done Will subscribe
Finally.. Another Geekerwan Video!
Thank you ❤❤❤ so much detail 😊😊
Really love your videos.
Please please upload videos frequently.
the best review about chipset...great job bro
Can you do a new diy gaming phone with 8gen2 maxed out and
drag race it against the old one? Could be a banger video
Great review one correction is that MediaTek is not playing catch up its accelerating past qualcom with speed of light soon qualcom will be the one playing catch up
I do agree with mtk D8200 score here and especially at the performance with genshin impact. Here i am using poco X4 GT the thing is that makes it 43 fps with 6 watts due to xiaomi s limit its potential (Joyose apps with controls the thermals and fps locked to 50fps most at the time just to avoid frying up the device 😂) disabling it makes more downgrade the performance, with that i stayed to 45fps which makes it more stable and longer battery usage while playing.
I not only after with the chip. But also the looks! Midrange should be good looking with an affordable price and great chip.
Long time no see!
its really interesting.. hope they sell it cheap
It's almost certainly using a faulty/defective 8g1+ die. Designing a chip is very expensive however the problem is that a flagship die is very big and thus expensive. As process yields increase, they will run out of defective dies eventually. That's why this chip should have been called as the 8G1E or something else. They should've made a proper Dimensity 8000 series competitor with a 4+4 design. That way, it's smaller and cheaper.
This is pretty insane! Also nice video!
Nice video explanation very details and understandable
This is top tier content. Keep it up!
Hi! I've a little question: how do you create those graphs and animations? I'd like to develop a 3d printing course and i'd like to use them! Thanks a lot
I think it would be absolutely awesome I wish some manufacture would take this chip and use it in their smart TV with good adequate cooling so it can sustain and overclock which in turn would give your TV awesome Android TV performance and be way overkill where you can even play simple games on your TV like genshin impact
Nice video. Thanks
I wonder if you can just overclock it like the mi 90 pro and get a over clocked Snapdragon 8+Gen1 😂 would be a great deal
I think DIY Gaming phone video with this chip would be spectacular, especially now when 8s gen 3 and 8 gen 3 is on its way. It would be great for comparison 😁👊