nice you are looking super fit and ready for that 2:5X! The fact that you are talking and running around mid 7 min pace, that's a sign of good fitness! I am not sure if 2:55 is still within reach for me, I wasn't able to train as planned for the last 3 weeks because of some unforeseen life events. Hoping to get back to it soon.
I drink my coffee like a shot of liquor in the morning to gird my self esteem. I only listen to Stephen Scullion and Goggins on repeat, alternating inspiration.
This difference took me YEARS to figure out and I think I've only recently realized it. Focusing on speed this summer has been interesting, so much so I plan on continuing it for the rest of 2024 and likely 2025 (video on this in Sept/Oct). It took me about 4 months to break the habit, as a marathoner, of stressing about volume. Once I broke that running has been much less stressful, workouts have been more focused and easy running has become much more easy. It is a process.
Looking forward to hearing about your progress and how things are going. Naturally, I always appreciate the shoe content - but as with many humans on the internet, I think we get invested in the journey. Rooting for you to hit your goals
If I make the drive to DC from the Philly area to cheer for you, I am going to get as much video as I can to help your race recap video. That's IF I can go. Looking forward to it.
that would be incredible. I did not bring my GoPro for the PR effort so I will likely leave it at home for this one too. 27% of me wants to bring it still to capture the journey but it's an added distraction I don't need
Nice share! Whenever I get in my head about accidental start/stops or silly interruptions on the run, I remind myself that the body always takes score, whether it’s recorded or not, you got the benefit from it. Great run, nice video
As I am focusing on the half at the moment , my work is more about icreasing speed (but it is just small tweeks from the coach) but it does mean that my longest run at the moments (my steasy / top of MAF range) is 90 minutes (like Matt, Paul uses time too and not distance). Thanks for sharing your run and thoughts. Re you guys and later in life .. it is all relative .. The tet offensive was going on when I was born 🤣 . This being the case I will never fully go down the speed route being a late starter, there is not enough time in the day for an older hobby jogger to fit in the required rest and push the boat out on volume .. while maintaining a job , family etc.. happy to plod along and see small incrementle improvements.
Thanks JBS. 90 min steasy is just mentally tough as 90 min zone 3 or MP for me....well almost. Still, it's a lot on the body. It is super challenging with family and work to get in the required rest and recovery. Speaking of which, hope the recovery is going well.
Thanks for sharing! I recently hired a coach and realize my speed sessions weren’t speedy enough to push my VO2max up. Speed has been top of mind. I’m early in my journey in obtaining an even deeper knowledge of running with speed. Learning some new things from your video and taking some notes.
Litereally here to share jokes and my experience so others can perhaps get a little benefit. I will say I think hitting a variety of different paces has helped me greatly. Just slower than threshold, threshold, just faster than threshold, 5k pace, mile pace, 800m pace. It feels good
Also started running late but at 58. However it wasn't until 10 yrs later that I had any desire to run a marathon, after meeting my now coach. Like you, I’m still running albeit (at 73) 😮with 6 BQ's as well! Just keep moving; it’s all about consistency, right?
You've been smashing it on speed, I'm very curious to see the difference that will make to your marathon training. As for fueling for the long runs, I've seen a big difference in the last few months since I've been more consistent on that, right now I'm using some cliff bloks (energy chews with caffeine) that I found at a nice deal - having said that, I'm debating if regular fruit jellies would do the trick at a fraction of the cost. This vlog style video was really nice, especially since you could do it without being out of breath, it's something I can't stand as well 🤣
lol thanks Panos! I fueled A LOT better on today's long run, which I also took the GoPro - and it made a WORLD of difference. Swedish Fish are my go-to cheap gummy substitute but they stick to my teeth sometimes and that's just unbearable when I'm already uncomfortable running. lol
Nice video, like hearing your stream-of-thought while running. My friend, a runner for 20+ years, admonishes all of us for turning off our watches during water and pee breaks. She says that, not only does the official clock keep going during a race, but a genuine reflection of effort is only to see the entire workout "in the raw". The next workout might be faster or slower, but *must* be compared in its totality to know if it is improved from a prior run. "If you want to impress your Strava friends, why not run quarter miles at 5:40 pace and take a five minute break between each by shutting off your watch...after 13.1 miles, your Strava followers will think you're an Olympian," she jokes to us. There's truth there though, I feel. What do you think, @MidLifeRunner??
Brilliant! I think it’s a big jump to assume a motivation of impressing Stravians as the root cause. I could care less what others think because I know they don’t care what I run. But she absolutely nailed the first part - as you can’t really know comparative efforts unless they’re the same - if one needs to compare. I think the biggest point is that you can’t stop a watch during a race, so you shouldn’t stop the watch during a run. But that only makes sense if you’re doing a work out. For easy runs, I think it maters a lot less.
This is why I'm on team "don't stop your watch". I'd rather have a bad split than forget to the start the watch again and run "undocumented miles". Plus, i figure "The clock's not going to stop for me at aid stations or emergency bathroom breaks. It is what it is 🤷🏻♂️" That said, I'm also guilty of telling myself pace doesn't matter on long runs and then thinking about my pace the whole run, which might be why you stopped your watch in the first place?
🤣 yes. Either way it’s not accurate tracking . If I let the watch run, the data will show regression of fitness and if I pause it, the overall HR at the given pace and effort will be false and overly forgiving . I think I just needed to fuel a little better or get some more sleep 😂
I don’t know why, but i was waiting for some ideas for the next parody movie to be mentioned 🙈🤷🏻♂️😁. But I’ll take all this running fast chat also 👍🏼.
Not to be a downer but that last stats I've seen say 3% of the drivers on the road at any given time are impaired (alcohol/drugs). Just under 10% of accidents that happen between 9am - noon involve a drunk driver. I wear a reflective vest of some kind at all times, no exceptions. If it's dark I include a headlight in front & back strapped on. A dark singlet like that with some of the shadows I see in this video & earbuds? No way....
I literally had anxiety watching this video because of the cars and I know you’re fine because I watched you edit it 😡 do what this man says or I burn your shoes. Greenways only for you.
Hey bro ... is the lack of sugar my friend... when you are underfueled the brain (which is the organ that demands more sugar) starts playing mind games. 10 to 15 carbs per kilo bodyweight that what i strive for. Also 3000 calories dialy.
@@ricHCarboCarbea I carb loaded before today’s 18. I took Skratch high carb (400 Cals) along with a couple of GUs and I ate before the run. A WORLD of difference. I felt strong the entire run and sharp today
From now on, I am waking up at 5am and starting the run before 0600 no matter what. I can't imagine this run with faster paces built in. I need to start earlier for sure!
You're talking like it is easy, but your Easy is only like 30 seconds off your marathon, which seems crazy. Marathon for me is 7:10. Easy is 8:55. I can probably run faster in zone 2, but turn off the brain, default no effort speed has never gotten faster for me in a few years of training. Did your Easy come down without noticing or are you pushing to see what's possible in zone 2?
That’s a good difference! I think they say easy pace should be about 90-120 seconds slower a mile than MP. My zone 2 HR cap is 147 but I try to land around 140-141, even if it slows me down on most my easy days. I also have zone 1 low zone 2 days at 129-130bpm, especially after hard workouts or long run days. My easy pace has come down. For the Houston marathon, pushing the easy pace was 8:00 , most days were 8:15-8:30, recovery days were 9:00. I think the speed block the last 4 1/2 months has dropped my easy pace by 30 seconds at the same efforts, therefore the target of my marathon has to shift also from a sub 3 more toward a sub 2:50 based on those paces. The solution for me is to run by effort. The HR will reflect it and the pace will be whatever it will be. I can look back at previous marathons run well to get a good gauge of where the HR should be but I also know MP effort pretty well . Once the marathon training starts at the end of this week, I will have a better idea of what I’m capable of running :)
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This is my brain on every long run. A roller-coaster of emotions mixed with nonsense thoughts and over analyzing my training. It's a wild ride 😂
@@nicknacks7824 glad I’m not alone
I think this was my favorite video yet!
Yowana style. Much more fun to watch then sitting down 30 times.
Noted
nice you are looking super fit and ready for that 2:5X! The fact that you are talking and running around mid 7 min pace, that's a sign of good fitness! I am not sure if 2:55 is still within reach for me, I wasn't able to train as planned for the last 3 weeks because of some unforeseen life events. Hoping to get back to it soon.
You got this! Excited to cruise in at 2:59:59 with you!
At this point cardiac drift just slaps me around and says what maf in deebo's voice. 😂
😂
I drink my coffee like a shot of liquor in the morning to gird my self esteem. I only listen to Stephen Scullion and Goggins on repeat, alternating inspiration.
@MidLifeRunner in Jockos whisper voice; you want to run in the heat but you can't stay in MAF? GOOOOD.
@@nicholas5396 🤣
This difference took me YEARS to figure out and I think I've only recently realized it. Focusing on speed this summer has been interesting, so much so I plan on continuing it for the rest of 2024 and likely 2025 (video on this in Sept/Oct). It took me about 4 months to break the habit, as a marathoner, of stressing about volume. Once I broke that running has been much less stressful, workouts have been more focused and easy running has become much more easy. It is a process.
Looking forward to hearing about your progress and how things are going. Naturally, I always appreciate the shoe content - but as with many humans on the internet, I think we get invested in the journey. Rooting for you to hit your goals
@@MidLifeRunner I’ll have an update video on it all in the coming weeks… but exciting stuff ahead (at least to me). Thanks for caring!
great stuff.., thanks for bringing us along
If I make the drive to DC from the Philly area to cheer for you, I am going to get as much video as I can to help your race recap video. That's IF I can go. Looking forward to it.
that would be incredible. I did not bring my GoPro for the PR effort so I will likely leave it at home for this one too. 27% of me wants to bring it still to capture the journey but it's an added distraction I don't need
Nice share! Whenever I get in my head about accidental start/stops or silly interruptions on the run, I remind myself that the body always takes score, whether it’s recorded or not, you got the benefit from it. Great run, nice video
Facts! And thank you
Exciting times… the fitness is here! Just consistency and staying healthy at this point 👏🏼👏🏼
As I am focusing on the half at the moment , my work is more about icreasing speed (but it is just small tweeks from the coach) but it does mean that my longest run at the moments (my steasy / top of MAF range) is 90 minutes (like Matt, Paul uses time too and not distance). Thanks for sharing your run and thoughts. Re you guys and later in life .. it is all relative .. The tet offensive was going on when I was born 🤣 . This being the case I will never fully go down the speed route being a late starter, there is not enough time in the day for an older hobby jogger to fit in the required rest and push the boat out on volume .. while maintaining a job , family etc.. happy to plod along and see small incrementle improvements.
Thanks JBS. 90 min steasy is just mentally tough as 90 min zone 3 or MP for me....well almost. Still, it's a lot on the body. It is super challenging with family and work to get in the required rest and recovery. Speaking of which, hope the recovery is going well.
Thanks for sharing! I recently hired a coach and realize my speed sessions weren’t speedy enough to push my VO2max up. Speed has been top of mind. I’m early in my journey in obtaining an even deeper knowledge of running with speed. Learning some new things from your video and taking some notes.
Litereally here to share jokes and my experience so others can perhaps get a little benefit. I will say I think hitting a variety of different paces has helped me greatly. Just slower than threshold, threshold, just faster than threshold, 5k pace, mile pace, 800m pace. It feels good
@@MidLifeRunner shifting gears is a huge benefit but damn if it doesn’t SUCK
I never stop my watch. I learned it the hard way. It's better to have a record of the slower time than no record at all.
noted
Great example of conversation pace!
This is so refreshing 😀
Thank you!
I'm with Aubrey; I started running in my early 50's. Now in my early 60s and six BQs later, still running...
Also started running late but at 58. However it wasn't until 10 yrs later that I had any desire to run a marathon, after meeting my now coach. Like you, I’m still running albeit (at 73) 😮with 6 BQ's as well! Just keep moving; it’s all about consistency, right?
Great video mate!!!
Thanks B.H.! I'll try to do more of these as I get closer to race day - maybe on a recovery run after a long run on a Sunday.
Laughing so much. That wasn’t expected. I can relate to so much of this!
Glad I am not alone out there
You've been smashing it on speed, I'm very curious to see the difference that will make to your marathon training.
As for fueling for the long runs, I've seen a big difference in the last few months since I've been more consistent on that, right now I'm using some cliff bloks (energy chews with caffeine) that I found at a nice deal - having said that, I'm debating if regular fruit jellies would do the trick at a fraction of the cost.
This vlog style video was really nice, especially since you could do it without being out of breath, it's something I can't stand as well 🤣
lol thanks Panos! I fueled A LOT better on today's long run, which I also took the GoPro - and it made a WORLD of difference. Swedish Fish are my go-to cheap gummy substitute but they stick to my teeth sometimes and that's just unbearable when I'm already uncomfortable running. lol
Nice video, like hearing your stream-of-thought while running. My friend, a runner for 20+ years, admonishes all of us for turning off our watches during water and pee breaks. She says that, not only does the official clock keep going during a race, but a genuine reflection of effort is only to see the entire workout "in the raw". The next workout might be faster or slower, but *must* be compared in its totality to know if it is improved from a prior run. "If you want to impress your Strava friends, why not run quarter miles at 5:40 pace and take a five minute break between each by shutting off your watch...after 13.1 miles, your Strava followers will think you're an Olympian," she jokes to us. There's truth there though, I feel. What do you think, @MidLifeRunner??
Brilliant! I think it’s a big jump to assume a motivation of impressing Stravians as the root cause. I could care less what others think because I know they don’t care what I run. But she absolutely nailed the first part - as you can’t really know comparative efforts unless they’re the same - if one needs to compare. I think the biggest point is that you can’t stop a watch during a race, so you shouldn’t stop the watch during a run. But that only makes sense if you’re doing a work out. For easy runs, I think it maters a lot less.
This is why I'm on team "don't stop your watch". I'd rather have a bad split than forget to the start the watch again and run "undocumented miles". Plus, i figure "The clock's not going to stop for me at aid stations or emergency bathroom breaks. It is what it is 🤷🏻♂️" That said, I'm also guilty of telling myself pace doesn't matter on long runs and then thinking about my pace the whole run, which might be why you stopped your watch in the first place?
🤣 yes. Either way it’s not accurate tracking . If I let the watch run, the data will show regression of fitness and if I pause it, the overall HR at the given pace and effort will be false and overly forgiving . I think I just needed to fuel a little better or get some more sleep 😂
I don’t know why, but i was waiting for some ideas for the next parody movie to be mentioned 🙈🤷🏻♂️😁. But I’ll take all this running fast chat also 👍🏼.
I guess 🙄 😂 one step closer to a insta360 Luis! Then we can talk about parody ideas during my 5-10k races
Haha, this is me on every long run and I'm not even filming.
glad we footage of a brain melting on a long run. glad I am not the only one
For those long runs, I always use auto pause I don’t forget to start my GPS again.
I just never pause. If it's just a long slow run, the pace doesn't matter to me. Haha
Brilliant ! I always forget this option exists
Need to get on tgiBri level .
Not to be a downer but that last stats I've seen say 3% of the drivers on the road at any given time are impaired (alcohol/drugs). Just under 10% of accidents that happen between 9am - noon involve a drunk driver. I wear a reflective vest of some kind at all times, no exceptions. If it's dark I include a headlight in front & back strapped on. A dark singlet like that with some of the shadows I see in this video & earbuds? No way....
@@therapygrind great looking out 🙌🏼 when my wife reads this, I will be sent to the park greenways with no traffic. You may have just saved a life
I literally had anxiety watching this video because of the cars and I know you’re fine because I watched you edit it 😡 do what this man says or I burn your shoes. Greenways only for you.
Hey bro ... is the lack of sugar my friend... when you are underfueled the brain (which is the organ that demands more sugar) starts playing mind games. 10 to 15 carbs per kilo bodyweight that what i strive for. Also 3000 calories dialy.
@@ricHCarboCarbea I carb loaded before today’s 18. I took Skratch high carb (400 Cals) along with a couple of GUs and I ate before the run. A WORLD of difference. I felt strong the entire run and sharp today
@@MidLifeRunneri bet you did. Keep it up.
Just curious, what audio book app do you use? Thanks, love the videos.
Thank you! I use audible. My wife uses it more than I do, that’s for sure. I occasionally get a running book on it with her credits 😂
Was this video “tongue and cheek”?
This was me getting roasted by the sun for two hours. My brain was fried. haha
I just film and I go 😂
The truth about how they make RUclips videos 😂
That is WAY too hot for a long run! Bordering on dangerous for me.
From now on, I am waking up at 5am and starting the run before 0600 no matter what. I can't imagine this run with faster paces built in. I need to start earlier for sure!
@@MidLifeRunner where are you at?
What's the name of the Garmin connect race time prediction you mentioned?
On Connect IQ - search for the app “Tanda training value” - it’s a data field that gives you a rolling marathon prediction time
@@MidLifeRunner Thanks! 👍
You're talking like it is easy, but your Easy is only like 30 seconds off your marathon, which seems crazy. Marathon for me is 7:10. Easy is 8:55. I can probably run faster in zone 2, but turn off the brain, default no effort speed has never gotten faster for me in a few years of training. Did your Easy come down without noticing or are you pushing to see what's possible in zone 2?
That’s a good difference! I think they say easy pace should be about 90-120 seconds slower a mile than MP. My zone 2 HR cap is 147 but I try to land around 140-141, even if it slows me down on most my easy days. I also have zone 1 low zone 2 days at 129-130bpm, especially after hard workouts or long run days. My easy pace has come down. For the Houston marathon, pushing the easy pace was 8:00 , most days were 8:15-8:30, recovery days were 9:00.
I think the speed block the last 4 1/2 months has dropped my easy pace by 30 seconds at the same efforts, therefore the target of my marathon has to shift also from a sub 3 more toward a sub 2:50 based on those paces. The solution for me is to run by effort. The HR will reflect it and the pace will be whatever it will be. I can look back at previous marathons run well to get a good gauge of where the HR should be but I also know MP effort pretty well . Once the marathon training starts at the end of this week, I will have a better idea of what I’m capable of running :)
@@MidLifeRunneryour goal is now sub 2:50?