Jews have to be one of the most agnostic religions I've encountered. They're so critical of everything there's a cultural rule called the 10th man rule. Where if 9 people agree on something it's the responsibility of the 10th man to be critical of it and argue the opposing view.
@Certified Cunt she initially did it for food but then actually felt she belonged which is why she ends up allowing the Jewish girl “baptised” her later on in the lake.
I'm a regular atheist (there aren't LEVELS of atheism, you either believe in a magic sky daddy or you don't) and this was one of the dumbest scenes ever filmed. Great acting, but most black people are rabidly antisemitic, so the idea of a black person wanting to be a jew that badly is preposterous.
@@Palpad100 Solid character doesn't mean good. Cindy was objectively a bad person up until she decided to actually decided to convert to Judiasm not because of the food but because of the belief. She was a full rounded character. You don't have to like her, I sure has hell didn't after seeing her backstory, but she definitel was a person
I really didn't like Black Cindy that much in the past seasons, but this is by far the best moment of the season, and fantastic acting from Adrienne C. Moore, and great supporting from the other three.
briemillman She really came into her own this year. The past 2 seasons she was really overshadowed by other people regularly in the same scenes as her, like Taystee, Poussey and Crazy Eyes. She almost became my instant favorite when she said 'Shabbat Shalom, bitch.'
I'm Jewish, and I life by it, but I've always had struggles finding the right words when asked, "what do Jews believe?". I think her speech summed it up better than I ever could.
Peacefully, and with love, I say to you: John 14:6 King James Version 6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. Do you wish to be with the Heavenly Father?
shnglbot Same for me lmfaoo ! Me I'm a sceptic, I think that I can't affirm if God exists or not, and that there is no absolute truth. But damn, I love so much the jewish people, they are simply wonderful ; and when I've studied their history, I just found a reason to believe in miracles. I was raised in a christian family, and I have the feeling that I could have say this speech by myself.
Naomi 333 Sorry I took so long to respond. First off, you need to establish the fact that there are only two reasons are religion could not repeat itself. One is, it is so specific, it just has not repeated itself. The second is, it is almost impossible for it to happen.
I'm more spiritual than religious, but out of all the religions, I've always thought Judaism was one of the most chill and intelligent since they actually debate and study life. I grew up in a Christian/Catholic small town, I don't think there was a single Jewish family there, and I'd often hear the message "It's in God's hands." and "Don't question the Lord." and other such passive bs. I love that Judaism is proactive and they encourage discussion about the faith, rather than expecting everyone to blindly believe whatever the bible or what a priest tells them.
I was raised Christian and I've ALWAYS questioned the Bible which pissed off my mom. I'd often get in trouble, yelled at, or my mom would whoop me if I said too much questions at church. I'm likely going to look into Judaism after this because it seems unanimous that my initial behavior would be encouraged. I don't know how to properly explain it but I felt something click in my mind if that makes sense?
I'm a catholic turned agnostic, and I found the scene to be beautiful. People searching for what genuinely resonates with them, that's something I identify with.
"Agnostic" is for fence-riding pussies. You either 100% believe in a magic sky daddy, or you don't. Quit trying to please everyone by compromising. Either go back to worshipping the adult version of Santa Claus, or join the rest of us who live in the real world where you need actual evidence to believe in supernatural crap.
What's the hardest part of becoming a jew? Learning how to pretend to be white while you constantly try to turn every other race against white people, and then suddenly becoming non-white whenever it's time to cash in on some antisemitic oppression? Because I must say, you people are really, really good at it.
Should not the real truth be called perfect for them? Jesus said to his disciples: “Things that cause people to stumble are bound to come, but woe to anyone through whom they come. It would be better for them to be thrown into the sea with a millstone tied around their neck than to cause one of these little ones to stumble. What if you are guilty of leading the teens astray with that which is not the truth?
@@noelle6481 Ok, if you wish not to hear the truth, I will leave with this statement: Jesus Christ truly loves you (despite your shortcomings) and wants a relationship with you, will you choose the truth in him or will you deny him? Peace be with you.
@@virtualevangelism7 as someone who used to be Christian is now converting to Judaism, if your religion is truly the correct one, you shouldn’t have to spend so much time convincing others it is.
If you think about it, turning non-white people against white people (the primary goal of most jews these days) should come natural for a black person since they already hate white people.
Best actors to date work on Orange. I honestly feel for every character they bring. It's beautiful and amazing and so thought provoking than any show I've seen in a while.
always makes me cry. as someone looking to convert to judaism this is the most beautiful conversion storyline i've seen on television, she summed it up beautifully
I feel like if I was looking for a religion to belong to, Judaism would be a pretty good candidate. Any faith that encourages you to think about the text and work things out for yourself and argue with people about it is my kinda G-d-bothering. (Did you see that, did you see what I did there?)
Moses wasn't White Abraham Isaac and Jacob wasn't White none of the prophets was white Mary and Joseph wasn't white Jesus wasn't White the Israelites wasn't/ isn't White.
Food was her introduction to Jewish culture, what got her interested in the religion but it's not the reason she converted, the more she learned about it, the more she loved it, at the end she was a true believer.
This is my favorite scene of all the seasons. Makes me tear up every time. We honestly love and cherish our converts for deciding to join our people for better or worse.
NaomiOff Yes, I'm currently going through conversion. I'm converting to a more liberal branch so it is only taking me about a year, but it could go as long as 3-6 years for a more orthodox branch. :)
Rachel Stewart If I can give you an advice, my israeli friend told me that the liberal conversion are still not recognized in the world (except by the liberal synagogues of course), but for example, you're not recognized as a jew in Israel. So maybe you should make an orthodox conversion, even if after your practice in a more liberal way.
NaomiOff Thank you for the advice, Naomi. I already know that though. I have spoken with Orthodox rabbis and seriously considered converting that way, but in the end, orthodoxy goes against many of my deepest values (gay rights, for example). I was forced to choose between being widely recognized as a Jew everywhere and going against my beliefs or only being considered a Jew in some movements and not recognized by Israel and being true to myself. I chose the latter, and so far have been very happy with that decision. Israel might not recognize me as a Jew, but that's okay by me.
Rachel Stewart There's also conservative Judaism. And there are different Jewish sects, e.g., Pharacies, Sadducees, Karaites who differ on their views about things like the after life or the Talmud . . Also, there's little point bringing this up. If you've ruled out orthodoxy but there's also ultra-orthodoxy.
I dunno.. I mean yeah that was her original reason to come to the religion but I really think she wanted to convert to Judaism. The other inmates wanted to do the same but no one fully committed like she did. In the end her "baptism" in the lake proved she was really doing it for the right reasons. She didn't have to do it, nobody cared at that point she was Jewish in their eyes. She was the one who took initiative you know?
Adrienne C. Moore/black Cindy did an amazing job and during times of joy it was so infectious from her. This see makes me cry when she gets all excited.
exactly I saw my girl watching this and caught this scene...notice how when she rebuked Her true israelite God the Jew allowed her to be one of them and also peep how the girl said "congrats, you are Jew-ISH" not real Jews
Like you need a person's permission or approval to become jewish???!!! I know it's just a show but people who are new to the faith will watch this and think that you have to go to a mere mortal man to be accepted in Judaism when you're supposed to go to THE MOST HIGH.
A rabbi can refuse a conversion, it happened to my sister. She wanted to convert to marry a jewish guy but when the rabbi understood that it was a marriage by interest he said no
rodrigosalasja This character, Black Cindy, decides to convert to Judaism to get kosher meals in prison (which are much better than the standard food). This is the moment when Cindy realizes she's actually learned during her torah studies and sincerely wants to become Jewish. Cindy's no longer doing it just for the food (microwaved frozen broccoli!) but because it fed a spiritual hunger she didn't even know she had.
Not really realistic considering a beit din wouldnt flat out tell you no, they would rather try to push away slightly. No so harsh that you run off, but male you aware of the 613 mitzvot and being shomer shabbos, keep kosher. And you would have to be in a community for 1 year and watched carefully by jewish peers. Once youve displayed you know the 13 principles of faith by rambam and your aware that jesus isnt the messchiach, then you can enter in. And you must have a mikvah ceremony.
"Why she wants to go from being a hated minority to a double-hated minority is beyond me" XD XD XD
Lawrence Mora no because the Jews get better food in prison lol
She's already a double hated minority because she's black and she's a REAL JEW!! FACTS!
Oyun Ochir thats just how they start it. The point of the scene was to acknowledge that she found something for herself in the religion
It's funny but also sad.
She's a double hated minority already because she's black and a woman.
This is so funny. Every other religion tries to get you to convert to them, but in Judaism you have to work so hard to convert!!
I appreciate that a lot about Judaism, that Jews don't try to convert other people and let others have their own beliefs.
Lol to our detriment
That's because Jews don't think you have to be Jewish to be "saved." They believe that non-Jews that follow the Noachide laws will be just fine.
susan c that just shows how "accepting" they are
Aliza M Hausman you mean non Jews who follow the noahhide laws
I'm a hardcore atheist but this punched me right in the feels. Whatever you need to do as long as what you find is yourself is damn fine in my book.
👏🏻 thank you
Jews have to be one of the most agnostic religions I've encountered. They're so critical of everything there's a cultural rule called the 10th man rule. Where if 9 people agree on something it's the responsibility of the 10th man to be critical of it and argue the opposing view.
@Certified Cunt she initially did it for food but then actually felt she belonged which is why she ends up allowing the Jewish girl “baptised” her later on in the lake.
@Wynn Wynn My dear neighbour, why do you say this?
I'm a regular atheist (there aren't LEVELS of atheism, you either believe in a magic sky daddy or you don't) and this was one of the dumbest scenes ever filmed. Great acting, but most black people are rabidly antisemitic, so the idea of a black person wanting to be a jew that badly is preposterous.
“It’s like a verb. It’s like, you DO God” that is so simple and yet so profound. Like damn
Cindy is such a solid character
It really depends on the episodes.
Bradley Showers yea that part of her being a deadbeat Mom isn’t so solid.
@@Palpad100 Solid character doesn't mean good. Cindy was objectively a bad person up until she decided to actually decided to convert to Judiasm not because of the food but because of the belief. She was a full rounded character. You don't have to like her, I sure has hell didn't after seeing her backstory, but she definitel was a person
I really didn't like Black Cindy that much in the past seasons, but this is by far the best moment of the season, and fantastic acting from Adrienne C. Moore, and great supporting from the other three.
Funny, but shallow and stereotypical. I never found her interesting because she was played as a one-note character.
briemillman She really came into her own this year. The past 2 seasons she was really overshadowed by other people regularly in the same scenes as her, like Taystee, Poussey and Crazy Eyes. She almost became my instant favorite when she said 'Shabbat Shalom, bitch.'
I'm Jewish, and I life by it, but I've always had struggles finding the right words when asked, "what do Jews believe?". I think her speech summed it up better than I ever could.
Peacefully, and with love, I say to you:
John 14:6
King James Version
6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Do you wish to be with the Heavenly Father?
@@virtualevangelism7 can you like… not?
@@virtualevangelism7 stfu
@@virtualevangelism7 Jesus Christ almighty -_- go touch some grass
Why do you revile me? Sincerely, peace and love be upon you all, and may you find truth and grace while you still can.
This is my favorite scene in the whole series. I am Jewish, and Cindy absolutely is one of us. She understands us. This was a beautiful scene.
One of the best scenes of the whole series. What talent..
i'm not jewish and don't believe in god but damn it this scene didn't almost make me want to convert myself!
shnglbot Same for me lmfaoo !
Me I'm a sceptic, I think that I can't affirm if God exists or not, and that there is no absolute truth.
But damn, I love so much the jewish people, they are simply wonderful ; and when I've studied their history, I just found a reason to believe in miracles.
I was raised in a christian family, and I have the feeling that I could have say this speech by myself.
+Naomi 333 There is tons of proof for G-d and Judaism. Would you like for me too show some of this proof?
Samuel Sarkany Come on ! I'm ready to "hear" it !
Naomi 333 Sorry I took so long to respond. First off, you need to establish the fact that there are only two reasons are religion could not repeat itself. One is, it is so specific, it just has not repeated itself. The second is, it is almost impossible for it to happen.
Samuel Sarkany I dont understand what you mean by "religion couldn't repeat itself"
I'm more spiritual than religious, but out of all the religions, I've always thought Judaism was one of the most chill and intelligent since they actually debate and study life. I grew up in a Christian/Catholic small town, I don't think there was a single Jewish family there, and I'd often hear the message "It's in God's hands." and "Don't question the Lord." and other such passive bs. I love that Judaism is proactive and they encourage discussion about the faith, rather than expecting everyone to blindly believe whatever the bible or what a priest tells them.
I was raised Christian and I've ALWAYS questioned the Bible which pissed off my mom. I'd often get in trouble, yelled at, or my mom would whoop me if I said too much questions at church. I'm likely going to look into Judaism after this because it seems unanimous that my initial behavior would be encouraged. I don't know how to properly explain it but I felt something click in my mind if that makes sense?
I'm a catholic turned agnostic, and I found the scene to be beautiful. People searching for what genuinely resonates with them, that's something I identify with.
"Agnostic" is for fence-riding pussies. You either 100% believe in a magic sky daddy, or you don't. Quit trying to please everyone by compromising. Either go back to worshipping the adult version of Santa Claus, or join the rest of us who live in the real world where you need actual evidence to believe in supernatural crap.
Born and raised a religious Jew! And to become a Jew is very hard but it's a beautiful religion and it takes much more then just a talk to someone!
What's the hardest part of becoming a jew? Learning how to pretend to be white while you constantly try to turn every other race against white people, and then suddenly becoming non-white whenever it's time to cash in on some antisemitic oppression? Because I must say, you people are really, really good at it.
My former students loved this clip: it explains Judaism in under five minutes and is perfect for teenagers.
Should not the real truth be called perfect for them?
Jesus said to his disciples: “Things that cause people to stumble are bound to come, but woe to anyone through whom they come. It would be better for them to be thrown into the sea with a millstone tied around their neck than to cause one of these little ones to stumble.
What if you are guilty of leading the teens astray with that which is not the truth?
@@virtualevangelism7 shut
@@noelle6481 Ok, if you wish not to hear the truth, I will leave with this statement: Jesus Christ truly loves you (despite your shortcomings) and wants a relationship with you, will you choose the truth in him or will you deny him?
Peace be with you.
@@virtualevangelism7 wow god loves me so much that he would send me to a eternal death fire if i dont do what he says. so loving...
@@virtualevangelism7 as someone who used to be Christian is now converting to Judaism, if your religion is truly the correct one, you shouldn’t have to spend so much time convincing others it is.
This scene is so important.
I don't even watch oitnb but I fell in love with this scene and I think it's time for me to start :)
It's an incredible show with nuanced characters
Right. No perfectly good or perfectly bad characters, just flawed ones, scared ones & hurt ones, all doing their best according to what they know.
Emma Williams did u start watching this beautiful series yet?
To start converting, or to start watching the show more religiously? :)
Really an awesome series, with so many perspectives on life..watch it! Really recommend it!
I love how determined she is to choose her faith. She really sounded sincere.
My mom is a convert and when we were watching this scene together she was crying the whole time
"Can I be a jew?"
That part makes me laugh so much😂
If you think about it, turning non-white people against white people (the primary goal of most jews these days) should come natural for a black person since they already hate white people.
What an amazing piece of acting by Adrienne Moore. I got teary-eyed when she cheered.
Best actors to date work on Orange. I honestly feel for every character they bring. It's beautiful and amazing and so thought provoking than any show I've seen in a while.
always makes me cry. as someone looking to convert to judaism this is the most beautiful conversion storyline i've seen on television, she summed it up beautifully
Suuuuch a good scene. I had to fight back the tears!
"I think I found my people" ✊🏾
This is by far the best explanation of Judaism ever.
I feel like if I was looking for a religion to belong to, Judaism would be a pretty good candidate. Any faith that encourages you to think about the text and work things out for yourself and argue with people about it is my kinda G-d-bothering. (Did you see that, did you see what I did there?)
We have a lot of Ethiopian Jews here in Israel...all Jews as per halakah laws...I am happy for her! PS Moses wasn't a white European...lol
Moses wasn't White Abraham Isaac and Jacob wasn't White none of the prophets was white Mary and Joseph wasn't white Jesus wasn't White the Israelites wasn't/ isn't White.
@@antoniomccoy9451 The west sure likes whitewashing history. 😅
I'm a convert, and I will say one thing - the food is a good part. Latkes and brisket are awesome. But I love the Gd makes me do Gd.
So when you convert to Judaism are you Israelite
Food was her introduction to Jewish culture, what got her interested in the religion but it's not the reason she converted, the more she learned about it, the more she loved it, at the end she was a true believer.
@@carlosburness3487 once you convert you are fully excepted as a fellow Jew
@@gabrielalpert6631 so is it yes or no
@@gabrielalpert6631 that when you’re converted your Israelite
"In the meantime, you are Jew-ish" I see what you did there XD
This is my favorite scene of all the seasons. Makes me tear up every time. We honestly love and cherish our converts for deciding to join our people for better or worse.
Very beautiful scene ; but as far as I know, the conversion is harder in the real life :p
NaomiOff Yes, I'm currently going through conversion. I'm converting to a more liberal branch so it is only taking me about a year, but it could go as long as 3-6 years for a more orthodox branch. :)
Rachel Stewart If I can give you an advice, my israeli friend told me that the liberal conversion are still not recognized in the world (except by the liberal synagogues of course), but for example, you're not recognized as a jew in Israel. So maybe you should make an orthodox conversion, even if after your practice in a more liberal way.
NaomiOff Thank you for the advice, Naomi. I already know that though. I have spoken with Orthodox rabbis and seriously considered converting that way, but in the end, orthodoxy goes against many of my deepest values (gay rights, for example). I was forced to choose between being widely recognized as a Jew everywhere and going against my beliefs or only being considered a Jew in some movements and not recognized by Israel and being true to myself. I chose the latter, and so far have been very happy with that decision. Israel might not recognize me as a Jew, but that's okay by me.
Rachel Stewart Ok no problem ! (good speech by the way :p )
Rachel Stewart There's also conservative Judaism. And there are different Jewish sects, e.g., Pharacies, Sadducees, Karaites who differ on their views about things like the after life or the Talmud . . Also, there's little point bringing this up. If you've ruled out orthodoxy but there's also ultra-orthodoxy.
And this is partially why I've wanted to convert for awhile now.
Baruch HaShem why am I crying in the club rn
This is my favorite scene in the entire show
This made me cry man :( I love this show.
This is the best scene in the whole series.
Shit did I just talk myself out of it? + Gesture... Ahaha SO jewish! Great monologue.
this scene was so beautiful
Thank you!!! This was the best scene from season 3.
One of my favorite scenes in the entire series! I just love seeing this side of Cindy as a person :-)
"...we can fake that shit in the shower..." :D :D
WHY AM I CRYING!?
Same reason I am. It's so perfectly human, in all its joy & defects.
Adorable Cindy. :)
Great clip. I wish it were connected to the mikvah scene too! THANKS!
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i still cant take this scene seriously cuz at first she was doing this for the food
I dunno.. I mean yeah that was her original reason to come to the religion but I really think she wanted to convert to Judaism. The other inmates wanted to do the same but no one fully committed like she did. In the end her "baptism" in the lake proved she was really doing it for the right reasons. She didn't have to do it, nobody cared at that point she was Jewish in their eyes. She was the one who took initiative you know?
@@merziak.waziri7293 Kind of like Abraham versus his brother Haran.
This is why I love being Jewish
me too!
but i prefer uncut cock.
jared kushner I’m an uncut cocks crunching guy. 😋
your gf doesnt
Adar w what gf?
Absolutely fantastic acting, and great scene.
I love this scene so much.
So heart felt and genuine
Jew-ish is the best pun ive heard
Oh I felt this. I felt this hard.
Makes me cry every time
Adrienne C. Moore/black Cindy did an amazing job and during times of joy it was so infectious from her. This see makes me cry when she gets all excited.
Wow, powerful! As a Jew, this was just so moving
You were part of my beit din! .. *whispers* IM CONVERTING 😂😂😂
This sub-plot was the only decent thing about season 3.
'we can fake that shit in the shower' lmao
Black Cindy - my favorite Jewish sista :)
I think this is my favourite scene from the whole series (both from the comedic and dramatic sides)!
“ ask Tova ask” lmfaooooo
I didn’t know that you can convert until this show 😭😭
I swear the acting in this series is phenomenal, especially Suzanne because I feel that I somewhat relate to her because im neurodivergent
If only it were that easy ... it’s like a legal process.
excellent scene I fought back tears
that's odd. its not like you ask a rabbi to become a jew and he says yes and then she/he is a jew. it takes work. studying, takes at least 3 years.
go make same syrup bitch
He said that to her at the end that there's a whole process
hahaha 'im here to take the name Tova'
thats me! :-)
so deep
My favorite scene.
Nice scene. In my experience, the speechmaking generally is done by the Rabbis ;-)
made me cry
This was a wonderful scene. She's amazing!!!#
Just GREAT!!
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LOL she did this ALL FOR THE FOOD LMFAOOOOO
Her speech was forgotten when she betrayed Taystee
this means so much to me, I haven't told anyone this but I'm planning on converting in a while❤❤❤✡✡✡
well now I'm crying.
i love her so much awe
Good creation 👌
That was powerful af!!
don't need those converts to be a Jew when your a Hebrew Israelite by blood.
exactly I saw my girl watching this and caught this scene...notice how when she rebuked Her true israelite God the Jew allowed her to be one of them and also peep how the girl said "congrats, you are Jew-ISH" not real Jews
Exactly smh
And the joke continues
@@Kennethwells7594 right I caught that too!
STRAIGHT FACTS!!
אני אוהבת סינדי
Gam ani :)
"We can fake that shit in the shower"
I cry
Tovah’s is my name🤣🤣🤣
All this cuz she wants a different meal 🤣
My favorite character
Didn’t she do this just for food?
Started for the food, then through learning developed a genuine desire to convert. Nobody gets that emotional about broccoli.
Beautiful
She all did this for the kosher food lmao
Like you need a person's permission or approval to become jewish???!!! I know it's just a show but people who are new to the faith will watch this and think that you have to go to a mere mortal man to be accepted in Judaism when you're supposed to go to THE MOST HIGH.
A rabbi can refuse a conversion, it happened to my sister. She wanted to convert to marry a jewish guy but when the rabbi understood that it was a marriage by interest he said no
Funny thing is she really is a jew.
STRAIGHT FACTS!!
Double Hated? HAHAHA She's so fucking funny! -_-
How I'm bout to be during the quarantine so ion get in trouble 😭 #ImJewishNow
Yall know that she only converted for the food right? lmao
You know she's REALLY a JEW by blood right? FACTS!!
Happy 🕎 cindy 😂 🎉
what is the meaning of this scene?
rodrigosalasja This character, Black Cindy, decides to convert to Judaism to get kosher meals in prison (which are much better than the standard food). This is the moment when Cindy realizes she's actually learned during her torah studies and sincerely wants to become Jewish. Cindy's no longer doing it just for the food (microwaved frozen broccoli!) but because it fed a spiritual hunger she didn't even know she had.
specialtramp well said... loved this scene so much!
Not really realistic considering a beit din wouldnt flat out tell you no, they would rather try to push away slightly. No so harsh that you run off, but male you aware of the 613 mitzvot and being shomer shabbos, keep kosher. And you would have to be in a community for 1 year and watched carefully by jewish peers. Once youve displayed you know the 13 principles of faith by rambam and your aware that jesus isnt the messchiach, then you can enter in. And you must have a mikvah ceremony.
they mocking her she is the real jew
Ask me again.
What episode is this
maha Dallali This is from the season three finale "Trust No Bitch".