Which D2S HID Headlight Bulb is the Brightest? Morimoto, GTR Lighting, Osram CBI or Philips Xtreme?
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
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In this video, we set up a test station and measured the maximum lux of 5 different D2S style bulbs in a 5,000K color range. We test 1 generic bulb, 1 from GTR Lighting, 1 from Morimoto, 1 from Osram, and 1 from Philips.
The Philips Xenon Xtreme vision was the brightest we tested. The idea here is that each bulb has different positive and negative characteristics. Some are brighter than the others, some have more or less blue in the color, and some are more expensive than others.
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Generic 1,830 Lux
GTR 2,500 Lux
Morimoto 3,099 Lux
Osram 3,800 Lux
Philips 4,800 Lux
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glad I found your channel someone that actually shows beam pattern and true measured lux. just true facts! awesome
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Headlight Revolution can you please tell me witch ballast is better Morimoto or GTR?
@@ferdinandgonzalez5308 from what I found from research GTR is better
It would also be nice to see how the Ballast affect a bulbs performance... using the same bulb, but different ballasts, to see if there is a difference between them, or do you think its the quality and longevity what your paying for?
Ballast will affect the bulb brightness. Denso is one of the better if not the best ballast for 35watts and will make the hid bulbs brighter. Just like a hylux 45watt ballast will make the hid bulbs slightly brighter then a 35watt ballast would but you have the downside of the bulb not lasting as long.
Great channel guys can you do the same for the D3S bulbs.
So many damn reviews, I just wanna know what's best. I have no clue what bulbs I need to be the best I can get
phillips and osram. There you go
The test will be more complete if you measures multiple points for lux across the pattern instead of just the brightest point. If a bulb design happen to be more focus on that projector, it might be brighter than others even if it produces less light. At end of the day, i want to light up the whole road instead of a small point/area. This is still a pretty good test though.
nice test, certainly shows the value of buying good bulbs, BUT I cannot help but wonder why as you tested a Philips Xtreme, why didn't you pit it against an Osram Nightbreaker Unlimited??
This is a valid question. Stay tuned for a LOT more shootouts :). Coming soon.
@@HeadlightRevolution Thanks for the speedy reply. I ask because my 07 Saab 9-3 Aero came from the factory with Osram Xenarcs, but I've been using Nightbreaker Unlimited for about 7 years now and they are far far better than Xenarcs.
Also did you burn those bulbs in before testing? I'd suggest at least an hour each. 🖖
Do a updated video
Thanks for the video, it really helps. Excellent review :)
That's good to hear. glad you enjoyed!
I think it’s time to do an update on this video. Thinking about getting some new bulbs and I would love to know what the best is out there at this time. I think Phillips came out with a gen 2 ?. Would love to know what’s currently the best.
Thanks for watching! We are constantly getting new bulbs in to test. Keep an eye out for future comparison videos.
Maybe I'm not used to the color, but those 5k white HID bulbs seem to be coming out a bit on the blue side, don't you think? Maybe it's different in real life than through a camera lens.
Also it seems that the GTR, Morimoto, Philips, and Osram. Those four also seem to fade the farther from the center of the beam, whereas the generic seems to be a bit brighter farther out. The GTR also seems to be brighter overall than the Morimoto, in spite of the fact of a Lux disadvantage. Again, this might be an optical illusion as I wasn't actually there and the color cast on the wall might also have an effect on how I'm perceiving the results.
The camera does make a slight difference in color rather than seeing them in person, as 5,000k in person is Pure White. 35w and 55w can also affect color, as the 55w washes color down slightly, by about 1,000k whereas 35w keeps it's true color. 6,000k is where the blue comes into the picture ever so slightly, and 8,000k it becomes quite prominent. Camera really can't do these bulbs justice with their potential!
@@HeadlightRevolution Wow, did not expect a response on a two year old video, so props. I do completely understand the K range for lights, but was remarking on, if all kits were 5k white, some were a little more faithful representation than others. At least that's the way the camera was portraying things. I am using you guys as a reference for when I eventually upgrade my headlights & taillights on my Outback, so videos like this that show light output and pattern are extremely helpful and useful. One thing I do wish for is that you guys would show a more "real world" application of these lights, not just against a wall/garage door.
@@SgtNuker Fair point, I will bring that up to the Video team! Each bulb has its own little color spin-off, but for the most part, they are the same. Certain brands do better than others, but the differences in person are minimal. It's kind of like Mac&Cheese. Your Grandmother has a recipe, restaraunts have a recipe, the stores have their own recipes, but it is still Mac&Cheese in the end haha. :) Shoot us an email and let's get some ideas flowing for your Outback!
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As a thank you for this great video, I bought Philips XtremeVision Gen2s for my 328 and upgraded my sister’s Yukon with some SuperNova V3’s. Keep up the great work and I will find more reasons to buy from HR.
Aarron Kelley, glad we could help! Thank YOU!
can we use 35w lamps with 55w ballast or the other way around (35w ballast and 55w lamps)?
What are the problems that may occur?
Thanks.
Osram CBI for both quality and brightness. Ran all of these myself with Osram CBI taking the take.
You have some sweet videos. Sorry we couldn't get all the options out there in the test. Did you make a video of what lights you've run?
Thanks. Unfortunately I've never done videos of my setups. However I currently still run the CBIs with no complaints. The GTR bulbs I ran shortly for a few months and I gave them to a fellow friend and s2000 owner as well - those were a close second, followed by Philip's taking third.
I've also run the cheaper amazon bulbs you've stated (not Morimoto - though many in the s2000 forums like them) and they run okay for a year or two but thereafter the intensity and color shift is just far too apparent.
Osram appears much whiter
Can you run the philips bulb on the GTR kit?
What do you think about cool blue hyper?? And comparing cbi and cbh what is the difference?
Can D2R be tested ?
Can’t seem to find any comparison test of different D2R HID bulbs, Morimoto, Osram, Philips, PIAA, or other..
Which one of these can I use with a 55w ballast ?
@Danil Milano, You can use all of these 35w bulbs with a 55w ballast, but you will get 1000 Kelvin less color, and a lower bulb life expectancy. The best is to get 50/55w bulbs for the 55w ballasts. Keep in mind that 50/55w bulbs are not that common. You can find 50/55w bulbs at The Retrofit Source site
Thank you
Isn't lumens more important? When it comes to driving on the road, total light output should trump concentrated area brightness
With HID's actual lumens are directly related to light output. Problem is, Manufacturers aren't always honest about Lumen. So, we did this video for reference of actual light output of HID kits.
I think you need to actually have like a machine to test lumens.
Can I use LED lights on a projector headlight ?
I have an 09 Nissan titan with aftermarket projector headlights from spyderauto. Would the Philips work well it? Or is there any better solutions?
HR can you tell me which HID if good for me ? I have hyundai Sonata 2017 with osram factory HID D3S bulb and I want something better than it.
what's the difference between Philips 85122XV C1 and C2 ??????
would highly appreciate it if comparison between D4S & D2S with same wattage & colour rating done to justify rumours about D4S having less light output compared to D2S because of the mercury content.
We’ll see what we can do!
@@HeadlightRevolution 👍🏼🥰💖
Time for a 2022 update. What’s the best so I can order!!
Osram Nightbreaker Laser!
@@HeadlightRevolution what colors are available?
Just 4300k.
The yeaky and NHK brand are good?
Hey do you have a video on a good led replacement for a D2S hid or any information on that type of swap?
Scott pounds As it sits right now there are no LED replacements for OEM HID's at least none that we know of that are any good.
Everyone using LED’s these days. I’d like to know what’s the best HID?! They still are the king for low beams! This video is old, and your website has GTR listed for $100 more than Morimoto. Is GTR now best HID?
GTR kit is super simple and plug and play!
@@HeadlightRevolution thanks! I figured that’s why they were more expensive! I just got my order today, actually! Can’t wait to install them as a Christmas gift! Lol. I got GTR HID’s, and GTR Ultra 2.0 LED’s 😁
are there any issues from heat on any of these hid kits? im going to be getting a 2018 wrx later this year and they come with a projector with a halogen bulb installed. i know its different technology but you mentioned in another video there are hid kits that go up to 5000 true lumens per bulb witch is massively more than halogen of the same size, and that makes me concerned about heat output...
also im pretty sure the wrx has a reflector high beam, ive heard these bulbs arent designed for reflectors but since its a high beam it would be blinding everyone anyway... so should be fine in that case right?
also the link in description seems to be broken.
Get yourself a morimoto projector from theretrofit source.
Would using Philips xtreme vision gen 2 yield in the brightest setup you can make using a 55w ballast? I am planning on purchasing the GEN 2 150% to use with my 55w GTR lighting ballasts.
I also would like to know how much brighter the GEN2 Philips' compared to the 85122XVC1 used in the video? Please make a video for comparing these latest bulbs if possible, as your company strives to advertise for the best products.
looks like the Philips takes forever to warm up. wish you held the scene longer when showing the output so we could see what it looked like when it was at full burn.
We let the bulb completely warm up before we film it, it was at full burn.
Thanks for the comment!
Are the Phillips X-Treme Vision bulbs brighter than the Osram Nightbreakers? They're the same company aren't they? I suspect they may be the same bulb. What do you think?
TurboTonyG to clear ur up osram is Sylvania brand hid.
Is it true that when your bulb fails you need to change both ballast and bulb? My local retrofitting shop who retrofit my fog lights told me this, and I'm kinda skeptical and find it a bit weird?
Usually you'll want to change both bulbs at the same time, However that's just to keep the colors the same. You do not usually change the ballast and bulb at the same time.
Nice comparison.
What's your thought on the D2S Philips Ultinon 6000k 85122wxx2 HID bulb? That one is like $250 for a pack of 2 bulbs.
Philips makes some of the best bulbs in the world. I know there are tons and tons and tons of cheap D2S bulbs but with this style of bulb you truly get what you pay for. You will have increased brightness and longevity from those bulbs.
If you want to get'm here's a link to our website: headlightrevolution.com/philips-85122-wx-ultinon-d2s-6-000k/
Thanks for the reply.
Do you know if the Philips Ultinon series will be okay with a 55 watts ballast setup? And if so which 55 watts ballast would you highly recommend? I want one that perform well and reliable.
Thank you again.
They should work great. For the ballast, go with the the Hylux Gen 4 ballast .
Great video... Hope u can clear ma doubt.. trying to buy 55w hid for reflective type h7 headlights.looking for kensjn or morimoto.. which one is better and which colour temp will guve max visibility.. i heard going more towards cooler side of the spectrum will reduce practical visibility is thay correct?? 4300k or 6000k?? Thank you in advance
Hey Midhun! To get maximum visibility I would recommend going with 5000k. It is going to be a pure white. A very clean look!
HIDs should not be used in reflector style headlights and should ONLY be used in projection style headlights only. Using HIDs in reflector housings throws light everywhere and blinds oncoming drivers. Not only is it dangerous for you and oncoming drivers, the HIDs will not perform anywhere close to the way they would in a projector housing, since the light will be refracted in all directions, instead of being in a focused beam with a nice sharp cutoff. If you are going to spend the money on a HID conversion kit, and want the headlights to be safe and perform the best they can, do it correctly and also purchase headlights with a projector housing. They will perform WAY better, they will be safe for you and oncoming drivers, which is the most important reason. Good luck in your search!
2DaNub very well said! Sadly a lot of people don't know this. Or some do but are inconsiderate and don't care about other drivers on the road that they're blinding. They just wanna look cool with their bright, blue-tinted HID's at other people's expense. Here's a hint for all those guilty of driving with HID's using reflective housings: if you receive a lot of oncoming cars flashing their bright lights at you it's them telling you that your lights are freakin blinding them. Do the install properly or don't do it at all.
Is D2S and D2R same?
Osram Nightbreaker Laser or Philips Xenon X-tremeVision gen2? For brightness. Thanks!
Night breaker laser!
I’m planning on going with the Philip Xenon extreme which ballast would be good to go with. I have a 2016 Honda Civic ? Which hid kit would you go with for my car. I’m looking for the best of the best for light output . Thanks
GTR Lighting has the best HID kit we have tested to date! :) Link: headlightrevolution.com/gtr-lighting-55w-gen-5-pwm-canbus-single-beam-hid-conversion-kit/
@@HeadlightRevolution
I need vedio for GTR 6000K with 55 watt
Thx
Do you need a ballast for the Philips bulb or can you just plug and play as I want to buy Vland Golf mk 7.5 lights and they require d2s bulbs
Shoot us an email and we an help you know everything you need.
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Did you used the same ballast with all bulbs?
Yes
So I have separate projectors for my high and low beams on my silverado and I wanted to put the hids in both, but I have heard that using hids as high beams isn't really a good option if so what could I put in for the high beams?
Angel Banda
Halogen infrared were supposed to be the future of non-xenons when they came out but that's an "if you can find them" situation
Will a D4s bulb fit into a D2s projector, and vice versa?...
You will not be able to fit them in the same housing, they will have different holes drilled out on the collar to make sure they go in the right application. Sorry about that!
Can you make one testing on 55 watt ballast?
Maybe at some point!
Can you please suggest for flashing lights with fan and Mode controller by Philips or flashing strobes by Philips . Thanks in advance
we don't have any experience with a product like that unfortunately.
I believe the brightest in the market are Osram Nightbreakers.
Are morimoto better than osram oem?
They are both great!
For the money morimoto is not bad. Better than generic no name bulbs and 1/4 cost of expensive bulbs.
So the best are Philips Xtreme Vision ?
it might be the best, but im pretty sure its the most expensive as well. I believe theyre about 100bucks per bulb
noob question, but is the Osram cbi Led or Hid bulb ?
HID D2S bulb
Which xenon hid light bulb is brighter for d2s,it’s for 2007 Infiniti m45 sport?
Hey Henry, There are a lot of new options available today. Email us at sales@headlightrevolution.com and we will help you out.
Alright. So what options do I have onna 2009 W204 Mercedes ( C class) with factory projector lens on low beam and H7 halogen bulb at the moment. How to convert to a D2S set up?
japanluv you don't. Just look for h7 hid bulbs
carlos vasquez Yeah found some options but with new MOT laws in the UK, I might just be stopped by police or not pass MOT. Im still considering them. Thanks.
Can you tell me the correct way to install a hid bulb inside a projector housing . I'm a little confused . Just want the best beam pattern . I have the 55w gtr lighting hid kit with the hylux ballast
Danil, there should only be one way to install an HID bulb.
The tabs are designed to keep you from installing it incorrect.
give us a call if you have any other questions.
218-755-5505
Headlight Revolution I understand what your saying completely. But what I'm asking might sound confusing . I was asking about the long straight bar , is that bar suppose to be on the top or bottom of the bulb when installed ?
Oh, alright. That little bar doesn't matter. It won't affect the light output at all.
Headlight Revolution thank you for that information. I installed the lights and their very bright :)
Can we connect osram or Phillip d2s bulb with 55w aftermarket quality ballast?
You cannot, they are not rated for 55W ballasts. You're going to have to go with something like the GTR/Morimoto HID bulbs that are rated upto 55W.
Yes you can, i have hylux 55w ballast and osram d2s, no problem. Very bright :)
@@Petozzi
I have also Hylix 55 watt with 6500k morimoto but colour still yellow not pure white as led so,if i go to osram will be 100% white ?
Which the best plz
Thx
I really need some help I have been checking so many videos and still haven't come to a conclusion,my car has reflector headlights (infinity) and uses d2r but can't seem to find a good d2r .....some say I can use d2s but I I heard it's a bit different....can you please recommend a good d2r pleaseeeee thanks
The reason your car uses D2R bulbs, is because the reflector housings you have are only supposed to be used with halogen bulbs, whereas D2S bulbs are made to be used with projector housings. HIDs should not be used in reflector style headlights and should ONLY be used in projection style headlights only. Using HIDs in reflector housings throws light everywhere and blinds oncoming drivers. Not only is it dangerous for you and oncoming drivers, the HIDs will not perform anywhere close to the way they would in a projector housing, since the light will be refracted in all directions, instead of being in a focused beam with a nice sharp cutoff. If you are going to spend the money on a HID conversion kit, and want the headlights to be safe and perform the way they are intended to, do it the right (safe) way by purchasing headlights with a projector housing. They will perform WAY better, and will be safe for you and oncoming drivers, which is the most important reason of all. Good luck!
@@2DaNub if it's an older infinity im sure it used factory hid in a reflector. Like the Acuras and Cadillac etc.
So I have a 2014 nissan maxima with stock hids. Can i use the Gtr lighting you mentioned in this video? or is that not compatible
Christopher Nunez if they are the same size they would work. D2S
Yep! The GTR will be a great fit!
Is there a video like this for these HID bulb but in a reflector? I have 03 Acura cL I believe I have the factory HID and was planning on upgrading sometime in the future. I did have my eyes on the GTR lighting heard it’s good.
Is this a 55w or 35 w ballast?
The one shown in the video is a 35 Watt ballast.
Phillips lighting can't be beat, they are also of much higher quality than anything else on the market and absolutely last the longest.
Shocked at how good the OE bulbs are even next to premium aftermarket... Guess I will go OEM on my replacements. My challengers D2 bulbs have 170k on them lol
With HID OEM is almost always going to be brighter and last longer but come in at a premium price!
@@HeadlightRevolution thank you guys seriously for all the work and testing-- I cant even explain how valuable a resource it is. Plus it looks fun haha
why no orsam cbh? It already tested brighter than the cbi.
Anything for h11 size bulb for projector ?
The GTR Lighting HID kits come in H11:
headlightrevolution.com/gtr-lighting-55w-canbus-gen-4-hylux-single-beam-hid-conversion-kit/
Headlight Revolution I ordered the above link for my 2013 Honda Accord lx .. do they come with a lifetime warranty ?
my car has 35w d1s, can i put a 50/55w d1s instead?
no you cant. you will have problems. they will not start correctly
The bulb is not what is 35w or 55w it’s the ballast.
Generally speaking running 55W setups on Xenon bulbs “overdrives” them and shortens their lifespan.
then why does my bulb say 35W on it?
Michael Hector same reason why a halogen bulb says 55W on it. It is naming the industry standard wattage that the bulb was designed to run on.
Hey what relay harness will be for a D2S light bulb?
Do you want to try my new bulbs? If possible, I can send you a set of bulbs
We are always willing to try new bulbs, feel free to send a set to us at our business address! 2281 Defoor Hills Rd NWAtlanta, GA 30318
What about a real life test, drive a few miles and see others drivers reaction, oncoming traffic and same line in front.
Generic 1.830 LUX and Philips 4800 LUX for ex.
I dont want to spend a lot of money and can't used because blind other drivers.
It's tough to do a driving test for each because we'd have to install each one then go for a rip with each one. All of this after hours because... night. It's also tough to quantify results from a driving test because you can only see so much from a video. We could go around driving with the same bulbs, and just say they're different, and tell you what we want to tell you and you'd be none the wiser. There are some channels out there that get so excited about new LED bulbs!!!!!!!!! but you really can't tell how bright they are or how they look on the road in a video like that.
I hope you understand what I'm saying. It's really tough to show results in real life settings. All we can do is show you stock (everyone knows what stock is like) then show you how much brighter HID's are and you make the decision from there.
Thanks for the question!
I understand, and thank you for reply.
Keep up the good work.
What would be best to get a pure white light? For a 2014 Nissan Altima
Joey, I'd recommend a 6000k color 55 Watt HID conversion kit. That's going to outperform anything else in your projector housings.
Lows - headlightrevolution.com/gtr-lighting-55w-gen-5-pwm-canbus-single-beam-hid-conversion-kit/
Highs - headlightrevolution.com/supernova-v-3-led-headlights-h11-h16-bulbs/
PWM module (to prevent flickering in the high beams) - headlightrevolution.com/gtr-lighting-pwm-interface-module-h11-style-connectors/
Morimoto is yellowish. Wish I had bought something else.
GetoverYourself give it a month or two, then it will be white
Do u recommend them i wana get these
Andres tinajero I do, they will have a green tint at first but I just drove with my lights on day and night (35-40 Miles per day on average) and after 1 month they are white with a bit of an incredibly small hint of blue
I ended up getting the morimoto 6500k by accident wanted the 5400k but i guess ill be keeping them on my g35 i didnt notice any green but u could tell the hint of blue after thier on for a few minutes the blue dies down a bit so im keeping these for now only problem is one bulb was going on and off thie first day after tht havent had any problems hopefully it dosent happen agin our i migjt have to return them
No yellow for me tho !
4:28 - turn on captions for HIV
All are chinese hids, chinese manufacturers makes for them! They just have a contract and rebrand and sell them.
you have reasson; but when rebrand they include quality control.