Your the best shop teacher around, Mr. John. You do a great job delivering information. I bet Mr. Reggie is drooling.. we all know he loves tap and dies 😊 good stuff
May have been mentioned further down, but a trick with non-adjustable dies is to rough the threads in via single pointing them on the lathe. Then run the die over the work. This emulates what the adjustable dies do. This helpful in tough materials or when you need a decent thread in a hurry. The holy grail for machinists is an adjustable Geometric die head which mounts in the tailstock or turret. Roughing and finishing passes are done in seconds to a toleranced pitch diameter. Not cheap but the cat's pajamas if you are making a box full of parts. Cheers from NC/USA
Great show. The only point I may have missed was the importance of a cutting fluid on the die and metal. An old Navy engineer always said to me "half a turn back it off make sure there is plenty of oil (cutting fluid) on it, take your time."
About 4 years ago I went to our local Habitat Restore and bought 6 sets of brand new still in the package Ridgid pipe dies. I paid a dollar a package and was shocked when I got home and looked up thr retail prices on them. Last year I went to a estate sale of a former drag racer. I bought a plastic bag with 78 taps in it for $20.00 with sizes up to 1/2 x 13 NC. 74 were brand new in packages , 2 were used and 2 were broken. All U.S.A. made. For some reason dies are much harder to find.
@@ScoutCrafter I don't always do good. One time at the Habitat Restore I found a wood box with about two dozen 1-1/2 split dies. After buying them and getting them home and cleaned up I found every on had broken teeth making them useless. I could have taken them back and got a refund, but they were cheap and I keep them around to remind me to be more careful.
Great explanation video, for those who don't know all this stuff,,, 👍,, ps,, as an apprentice electrician, back in the 70's, I must have threaded so much conduit, it still makes my arms ache, thinking about it,, ha ha ha,, pps, we used to extend the arms of the "stocks" with offcuts of conduit, to reduce the effort needed, (especially on inch and a half conduit,) and it was faster to spin the stocks and dies off, when you'd finished threading,, 🤣👍👍
Thanks for today’s video - it answer a lot of questions that I had about split dies. I had shop over 50 years ago just learning how to tap and dies with non-adjustable dies took all the time my late shop teacher could take. He had so many areas to cover and so little time plus trying to explain them to a bunch of high school boys (lions, tigers and high school boys - oh my!)
I’m actually very interested in this video I’m putting this in my favorites because it’s something I’m going to have to watch over again - Great job explaining the process John- I appreciate the time that you put into making these videos I’ve learned a lot so far -- you said I was way back in the archives lol 😂 -- I am and that’s fine with me because your teaching me something new everyday ! Thanks John ✅👈🏼
I’m and old retired mechanic myself. I thought I knew everything, but listening to your expertise I learn so much. Every episode something new for me. Men, you are something else. 🙂👌 OHHHH And I pick #5 😂
Thanks for the tips. I really admire and appreciate the machinists trade, there's a reason the machinist's handbook is as thick as a New York phone book, I mean back in the day when we used to have phone books
I always wanted a tap and die set but ever got one. I had a thread chasing file back in the dark ages but it got bored and left as a lot of my stuff did. I hope all that stuff is happy, wherever it is. I sure am because I don't have to worry over it. Thanks, John and this was another good one. Have a fine rest of the week and God Bless!
Really informative, I would have never known this without watching! The tap and die set I have is for smaller stock and a greenfield but not split. It was in a flea market “take it all box” something like a treasure within a treasure. After watching this its easy to see how much sense it makes with the split die; Great stuff, Thanks so much!
You are a tool master. When in question about a tool, ask scoutcrafter! Every once and a while you get your knowledge fine tuned as with your channel today. Thank You
Good job, John. I learned that in 1971 from my toolmaker-dad and again in 1978 in trade school during my apprenticeship as a machinist/mechanic. Ya explained everything correctly. Good compendium for everybody. like it. I have my 100 years old tap and die sets in daily shop use. They still perform excellent.
Brought back many memories. My first set of dies and handle stock were for pipe, 1/8, 1/4, 1/2, 3/4, 1, 1 1/2, & 2 inch NPT. They must have been 80 years old. The die stoch took 16 in threaded handles and the whole monster was near three feet long. Of course I needed a half dozen pipe wrenches...? Nest set was maybe close to 100 PC Bluepoint set off the Snap-On Truck...much easier to use.
Hi Scoutcrafter, I used taps and dies an awful lot in the 80s in the machine shop, quite a few differences between UK an US tools, but the thing I liked most was your appreciation of a beautifully crafted tool as that tap you showed, I have down sized a lot lately but when going through my taps and dies there were some great old English makes that I just couldn't part with. I have a set of original 1inch Whitworth taps. Take care my friend. 👍👍👍🇺🇸🇬🇧✌️
Hi John. What a great video. Sorry to say. I never knew about those split dies. Very informative. Now I know why some of my dies don't work so well. Thanks for sharing. Have a great rest of the week.👍👍👍❤...
Awesome! Thank you for this information. I have an old set of adjustable dies and to be honest I did not know how to use them, I think I found them at one of my poor man's flea market Adventures. I now realize I have a valuable set of dies, I really appreciate this valuable information.
This is an excellent video and a good reason this is such a great channel. I never knew this information and am now much better informed. I recall a video you made some time ago about a die with a sliding plate at its base that held the die/handle absolutely level because it is so important to begin the threading process with a level die. I think this is a Greenlee product. With such useful information as this and the poor man's flea market, what kind of maniac wouldn't subscribe to this channel?
Pat- I always wondered why there is so little information on threading provided by manufacturers. I believe they would seek more products if people understood what the heck was going on! 😂👍
Thank you very much. I didn’t know anything about dies or taps. Now I’m going to buy the next decent non-Chinaware garage sale set I find. Great video.
Great explanation, now you need to do the styles of taps and their purposes. Long ago I was let go from a place because they wanted to use a plug tap instead of a bottoming out tap, plus they were wanting one tap to do the job. I brought that up and it embarassed them as they knew I was right but couldn't admit it. At first, especially when you are young to get dumped for somthing not your fault. As you get older you realize they are not the type of place you want to work for. In the same line of knowing which taps is knowing what a tap drill and a body drill is for.
Philip when we get older we learn how to interject information without ruffling feathers! 😂. I remember I had a similar situation at work and I literally had to pretend he found the answer himself. 😃👍
Life was so much simpler when in a country you had one standard, now we have imperial, metric and old legacy threads. What screws do you use in America to hold your wall outlets to the boxes? In the UK we used to use 4 ba screws now they are metric.
I just keep all my dies in small plastic container. I don’t use them enough to worry about spending the big bucks for a top tier set. But I totally understand why professionals would go this route
Great information. Thanks so much. I tend to add threads to high pressure tubing using the same type of die setup. I back off the turn every revolution to break the chip that forms. Also lots of cutting oil.
I have very very cheap set but Its always save my day,sir...Thnx for info and tip...I never heard line alignment that you explained on video...Thnx for sharing and pro tip...
Great video 👍You did a great job showing and explaining to us about the split die and the adjustable dies, Fantastic 👍. Those Greenfield threading dies are sure expensive 😮😱💰 but I see how they work a lot better by not threading a lot of material at once. Did you ever use kerosene for cutting your aluminum threads? I think you mentioned you used WD-40. Well again great video and can’t wait to see what you do on Friday. Have a great evening. 😃👍👍
I’d never heard of split dies until today. Your explanation of how and why to use them was perfect. Thanks for another great video. 7:36 I was a little surprised at the price of the Greenfield set 😮
Very interesting and informative subject. I wonder if after you release one of these videos is there an uptick on EBay with folks trying to get these older but superior tools?
Fascinating stuff. The problem with metal working as a hobby (compared to wood) is that it requires too many too expensive tools. You can get by with a few basic hand tools for wood, not so much for metal. When my father was a shop student, each student was given a 1 inch section of 1-inch steel rod, a hand file, and a pair of calipers . Task: to make the most perfect cube they could produce. He said it was not as easy as it sounded.
Your Father had some task! You are so right about metalwork, I find the same thing about welding, it takes a lot of practice and $$$ just to be a beginner!
Could you please talk about the different types of threads, such as pipe threads and also the different components of thread dimensions in your next video?
Sorry i didn't get a pic but was by the Rt 66 museum in Clinton, Ok today. I know one of your other viewers is connected to that. Had 2 baby granddaughters in tow. Thanks and cheers
This has to be one of my favorite videos! Thank you so much for explaining how the dies work. I have one question ( and you might have told when someone was trying to talk to me ) but do you use any kind of a cutting oil ? Thank You John.
Hello Jack- I’m sorry I left that out, absolutely yes! Cutting oil is imperative when threading or tapping. The best cutting fluid is Tap Magic- for steel and WD-40 for Aluminum. Brass and cast iron don’t need cutting fluids. 😃👍
This is why people need to pick up Tap & Die Sets at Tool Shows and Garage Sales, otherwise you'll end up spending 5 Grand getting a decent set put together.
I have some vintage Wells bros. Tap & die tools. I have some of the square dies, how exactly were those used because I don’t see any type of holder for them to go in?
It's surprising how many people don't understand the difference between a split die vs solid die. I see guys all the time cranking like hell on a CS solid die trying to cut new threads.
As always, I do enjoy your shows but I do have a question because you seem like a really nice guy but your profile picture looks like you ate a sandwich with bad meat and someone is blocking your way to the bathroom. It maybe time for a new picture. 😊
Your the best shop teacher around, Mr. John. You do a great job delivering information. I bet Mr. Reggie is drooling.. we all know he loves tap and dies 😊 good stuff
Thanks Vic, I just wish I knew this information when I was starting out, would have saved me a lot of headaches. 😂👍
Thanks and thanks again! The Buddha said - "If you knew the power of giving you would share every meal". My you be blessed. 🙂
Good info. Thanks for posting and thumbs up!
Very informative & interesting.
Bravo Scout crafter. I watch you three days a week and I have never seen you do a video quite like this before. Master class!
May have been mentioned further down, but a trick with non-adjustable dies is to rough the threads in via single pointing them on the lathe. Then run the die over the work. This emulates what the adjustable dies do. This helpful in tough materials or when you need a decent thread in a hurry.
The holy grail for machinists is an adjustable Geometric die head which mounts in the tailstock or turret. Roughing and finishing passes are done in seconds to a toleranced pitch diameter. Not cheap but the cat's pajamas if you are making a box full of parts.
Cheers from NC/USA
You are an artist and a great teacher. Thank you.
Excellent insight into different kinds of die and their use. Thanks.
Great video... Quick change gear box on a lathe...what a pleasure
Something you don’t realize how great it is until you try one. 😃👍
Great show. The only point I may have missed was the importance of a cutting fluid on the die and metal. An old Navy engineer always said to me "half a turn back it off make sure there is plenty of oil (cutting fluid) on it, take your time."
What a great lesson on dies I sure learned a lot I’ve only used the non split ones and didn’t know what the others were all about 👌
About 4 years ago I went to our local Habitat Restore and bought 6 sets of brand new still in the package Ridgid pipe dies. I paid a dollar a package and was shocked when I got home and looked up thr retail prices on them. Last year I went to a estate sale of a former drag racer. I bought a plastic bag with 78 taps in it for $20.00 with sizes up to 1/2 x 13 NC. 74 were brand new in packages , 2 were used and 2 were broken. All U.S.A. made. For some reason dies are much harder to find.
What a great score!!! 😃👍
@@ScoutCrafter I don't always do good. One time at the Habitat Restore I found a wood box with about two dozen 1-1/2 split dies. After buying them and getting them home and cleaned up I found every on had broken teeth making them useless. I could have taken them back and got a refund, but they were cheap and I keep them around to remind me to be more careful.
Very informative and a great presentation. Thanks John👍
Great explanation video, for those who don't know all this stuff,,, 👍,,
ps,, as an apprentice electrician, back in the 70's, I must have threaded so much conduit, it still makes my arms ache, thinking about it,, ha ha ha,, pps, we used to extend the arms of the "stocks" with offcuts of conduit, to reduce the effort needed, (especially on inch and a half conduit,) and it was faster to spin the stocks and dies off, when you'd finished threading,, 🤣👍👍
Probably one of finest tutorial on dies and the use of the dies I have heard a seen. Excellent job sir, thank you.
Thankyou so much!!!!!
Thanks for today’s video - it answer a lot of questions that I had about split dies. I had shop over 50 years ago just learning how to tap and dies with non-adjustable dies took all the time my late shop teacher could take. He had so many areas to cover and so little time plus trying to explain them to a bunch of high school boys (lions, tigers and high school boys - oh my!)
What a great video, thank you very much! Have a great rest of your week John.
Excellent Mate!!☻
Great video Scout. Always informative.
That was a great video. I have been enlightened. Had never seen an adjustable die. The machinists must have kept them hidden.
Hi John, great shop teacher video. Very cool that you share all of this info with your following. Super tutorial. Thanks
Best Regards,
John
I’m actually very interested in this video I’m putting this in my favorites because it’s something I’m going to have to watch over again - Great job explaining the process John- I appreciate the time that you put into making these videos I’ve learned a lot so far -- you said I was way back in the archives lol 😂 -- I am and that’s fine with me because your teaching me something new everyday ! Thanks John ✅👈🏼
I’m and old retired mechanic myself. I thought I knew everything, but listening to your expertise I learn so much. Every episode something new for me. Men, you are something else. 🙂👌 OHHHH And I pick #5 😂
Thanks Ivan!!
Very informative - well done, easy to follow
Thanks for the tips.
I really admire and appreciate the machinists trade, there's a reason the machinist's handbook is as thick as a New York phone book, I mean back in the day when we used to have phone books
You are a superior teacher ScoutCrafter. An absolute perfect instructional video.
Great information I've been using taps and dies for over 50 years and I had never seen the adjustable dies before thank you
I always wanted a tap and die set but ever got one. I had a thread chasing file back in the dark ages but it got bored and left as a lot of my stuff did. I hope all that stuff is happy, wherever it is. I sure am because I don't have to worry over it. Thanks, John and this was another good one. Have a fine rest of the week and God Bless!
Really informative, I would have never known this without watching! The tap and die set I have is for smaller stock and a greenfield but not split. It was in a flea market “take it all box” something like a treasure within a treasure. After watching this its easy to see how much sense it makes with the split die; Great stuff, Thanks so much!
Split Dies was new to me. Thanks for sharing the info.
Awesome information. Thanks for sharing.
Excellent presentation!
What a great teaching video. Thanks
You are a tool master. When in question about a tool, ask scoutcrafter! Every once and a while you get your knowledge fine tuned as with your channel today. Thank You
This has really helped me! Thank you so much!
Good job, John. I learned that in 1971 from my toolmaker-dad and again in 1978 in trade school during my apprenticeship as a machinist/mechanic. Ya explained everything correctly. Good compendium for everybody. like it. I have my 100 years old tap and die sets in daily shop use. They still perform excellent.
Great tutorial, thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Brought back many memories.
My first set of dies and handle stock were for pipe, 1/8, 1/4, 1/2, 3/4, 1, 1 1/2, & 2 inch NPT. They must have been 80 years old. The die stoch took 16 in threaded handles and the whole monster was near three feet long.
Of course I needed a half dozen pipe wrenches...?
Nest set was maybe close to 100 PC Bluepoint set off the Snap-On Truck...much easier to use.
Beautiful dies and a great lesson. Thank you!
Excellent video!! I learned a lot about dies.
Thanks for all the info I didn't even know of such Dies! Thanks again!
Hi Scoutcrafter, I used taps and dies an awful lot in the 80s in the machine shop, quite a few differences between UK an US tools, but the thing I liked most was your appreciation of a beautifully crafted tool as that tap you showed, I have down sized a lot lately but when going through my taps and dies there were some great old English makes that I just couldn't part with. I have a set of original 1inch Whitworth taps. Take care my friend. 👍👍👍🇺🇸🇬🇧✌️
Great video and perfect timing. I’ve been wanting to buy a tap and die set. Thanks for the education.
Fantastic video. Always learning so much from you 👍
Hi John. What a great video. Sorry to say. I never knew about those split dies. Very informative. Now I know why some of my dies don't work so well. Thanks for sharing. Have a great rest of the week.👍👍👍❤...
Thanks for sharing i learned so much great video
Fascinating John, thanks for this, that explains a lot, I never knew that about the split dies !
Very good explanation. Good Luck, Rick
Awesome! Thank you for this information. I have an old set of adjustable dies and to be honest I did not know how to use them, I think I found them at one of my poor man's flea market Adventures. I now realize I have a valuable set of dies, I really appreciate this valuable information.
Great instructional video! Very useful for me, thanks.
I thank you for showing us what a split die is for and how to use
This is an excellent video and a good reason this is such a great channel. I never knew this information and am now much better informed. I recall a video you made some time ago about a die with a sliding plate at its base that held the die/handle absolutely level because it is so important to begin the threading process with a level die. I think this is a Greenlee product. With such useful information as this and the poor man's flea market, what kind of maniac wouldn't subscribe to this channel?
Pat- I always wondered why there is so little information on threading provided by manufacturers. I believe they would seek more products if people understood what the heck was going on! 😂👍
Nice explanation and tutorial - thanks!
Thank you very much. I didn’t know anything about dies or taps. Now I’m going to buy the next decent non-Chinaware garage sale set I find. Great video.
Love the old school tools they were made out of need great stuff
God bless take care 👍🇺🇸🙏🗽🇳🇿🦅🪖🏛️45
This is a great video. I was definitely cranking down on all three screws on my die holder, now I know.
Hello John, great tips for the die set thanks.
Nice job in explaining split dies!
You should teach ..these skills are being lost. I had no idea these exist Thank you sir😊
Thank you sir.
This was very interesting and educational. ❤
Excellent video, thank you
Thanks for the lesson John. More than once I have looked up one of your videos for instructions. They are much appreciated.
Great video and, by reading the comments, a lot of learning going on...stay safe...captjack..
Very helpful, thanks. I just picked up the same set of GTD dies! They are 3x beefier than what I have been using!
Great explanation of how to use split dies! I have seen this done before but have never seen a video that explained it.
Great explanation, now you need to do the styles of taps and their purposes. Long ago I was let go from a place because they wanted to use a plug tap instead of a bottoming out tap, plus they were wanting one tap to do the job. I brought that up and it embarassed them as they knew I was right but couldn't admit it. At first, especially when you are young to get dumped for somthing not your fault. As you get older you realize they are not the type of place you want to work for. In the same line of knowing which taps is knowing what a tap drill and a body drill is for.
Philip when we get older we learn how to interject information without ruffling feathers! 😂. I remember I had a similar situation at work and I literally had to pretend he found the answer himself. 😃👍
Hi Scout . Nice Job on The Die Information.
Fantastic film loving it
Great info!
Very good. Thank you.
Life was so much simpler when in a country you had one standard, now we have imperial, metric and old legacy threads. What screws do you use in America to hold your wall outlets to the boxes? In the UK we used to use 4 ba screws now they are metric.
Adjustable Dies……. I did not know that!
Thanks SC 👍🏼
I just keep all my dies in small plastic container. I don’t use them enough to worry about spending the big bucks for a top tier set. But I totally understand why professionals would go this route
Good information in this one!
Great information. Thanks so much. I tend to add threads to high pressure tubing using the same type of die setup. I back off the turn every revolution to break the chip that forms. Also lots of cutting oil.
Interesting stuff 🛠👍😊
information is, "KING",txs for sharing...
Still learning new things…😳 good stuff…🖖
Wow that was a great lesson on threading tools and operations. Are you sure you werent a shop teacher in another life ?!
I have very very cheap set but Its always save my day,sir...Thnx for info and tip...I never heard line alignment that you explained on video...Thnx for sharing and pro tip...
Great video 👍You did a great job showing and explaining to us about the split die and the adjustable dies, Fantastic 👍. Those Greenfield threading dies are sure expensive 😮😱💰 but I see how they work a lot better by not threading a lot of material at once. Did you ever use kerosene for cutting your aluminum threads? I think you mentioned you used WD-40. Well again great video and can’t wait to see what you do on Friday. Have a great evening. 😃👍👍
Steven- Wd-40 works really good for aluminum and I have tap magic for aluminum but like Kerosene I don't like the smell! LOL
I’d never heard of split dies until today. Your explanation of how and why to use them was perfect. Thanks for another great video. 7:36 I was a little surprised at the price of the Greenfield set 😮
I know! They aren’t cheap!!! 😂👍
Everything dies😮 Very instructional. 👍 Snoopy needs change of scenery. ❤😊
Very interesting and informative subject. I wonder if after you release one of these videos is there an uptick on EBay with folks trying to get these older but superior tools?
Fascinating stuff. The problem with metal working as a hobby (compared to wood) is that it requires too many too expensive tools. You can get by with a few basic hand tools for wood, not so much for metal.
When my father was a shop student, each student was given a 1 inch section of 1-inch steel rod, a hand file, and a pair of calipers . Task: to make the most perfect cube they could produce. He said it was not as easy as it sounded.
Your Father had some task! You are so right about metalwork, I find the same thing about welding, it takes a lot of practice and $$$ just to be a beginner!
Could you please talk about the different types of threads, such as pipe threads and also the different components of thread dimensions in your next video?
Sorry i didn't get a pic but was by the Rt 66 museum in Clinton, Ok today. I know one of your other viewers is connected to that. Had 2 baby granddaughters in tow. Thanks and cheers
Yes! Dean Collins! I can't wait to see that one day! Glad you got to see the big gas pump!
This has to be one of my favorite videos! Thank you so much for explaining how the dies work. I have one question ( and you might have told when someone was trying to talk to me ) but do you use any kind of a
cutting oil ? Thank You John.
Hello Jack- I’m sorry I left that out, absolutely yes! Cutting oil is imperative when threading or tapping. The best cutting fluid is Tap Magic- for steel and WD-40 for Aluminum. Brass and cast iron don’t need cutting fluids. 😃👍
@@ScoutCrafter Thank You
I never knew. Thanks
This is REASON # 5150 why you RUUUUUUULE!!!!!!! THANKS Obi Won!
Great explanation of those adjustable dies, those two slats of wood were those an old pants hanger that clamped on your pants to hang up???
This is why people need to pick up Tap & Die Sets at Tool Shows and Garage Sales, otherwise you'll end up spending 5 Grand getting a decent set put together.
I used to thread drill pipe and other oil tools
I bet that is amazing- Drill pipe is tough and uses that crazy taper. 😃👍
@@ScoutCrafter it is usually 2 inch taper
I have some vintage Wells bros. Tap & die tools. I have some of the square dies, how exactly were those used because I don’t see any type of holder for them to go in?
Interesting
It's surprising how many people don't understand the difference between a split die vs solid die. I see guys all the time cranking like hell on a CS solid die trying to cut new threads.
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As always, I do enjoy your shows but I do have a question because you seem like a really nice guy but your profile picture looks like you ate a sandwich with bad meat and someone is blocking your way to the bathroom. It maybe time for a new picture. 😊
It’s true- My profile pic was from 12 years ago. 😂👍
Just changed it! 😃👍
@@ScoutCrafter God love you buddy, Can't wait until Fridays show. 😎