I've used a cold riveter that worked like Marty's Matchbook Makeovers method. It had a very robust chassis like an arbor press. The head ran at about 60-100 rpm. The trick was that unlike Marty's set-up on the drill press the dome forming tool wasn't vertical (though the drive was). The end of the forming tool was off-set 5-10 degrees so that when it was running it appeared to be oscillating. The tool was hardened and polished and when it came down onto the rivet it "walked" around the rivet and deformed it into a very nice looking dome. Oil on the rivets kept the tool from galling the rivet head. There were adjustments so once set it was easy to get repeatable results in a production run. There were different tools for different styles of rivets. When you see a rivet with concentric circles on the head it was probably done with this type of tool. Cheers from NC/USA
@@ScoutCrafter Had a customer come in our store and ask if we had sex screws. Of course I laughed and then he described these Chicago screws. I'm always learning, haha ! But when a women came in and described what she needed I told her what she needs is a sex screw I thought she was going to slap me. Sometimes it's fun working at a Hardware store!
Scoutcrafter, in school metalworking classes we were taught how to use a soft iron rivet and then countersink the opposite side and cut the rivet proud. Then ball pein the rivet into the countersink until it fills the countersink entirely. Once filed flat the repair virtually disappears and is my favourite way of attaching spade heads to new handles. If you cannot get soft iron rivets then use an iron nail. Heat to red heat and let it cool slowly to anneal it. Then rivet but he careful as lots of little taps will work harden the rivet. Has been useful for the past 50 years. Great video as always, informative, useful and thoroughly entertaining.
Wouldn’t you know it, Scout’s on the job. He started this show with a doggone corn cob. Then on to rivets. He doesn’t like pop. He just kept on talking. The guy never stops. So many types. So many rivets. More types than when I golf and make divets. I like them all Especially for leather. They don’t add weight. They’re light as a feather. Along comes the tools. The dome’s shaped like a dill. He says we can make them. Like we have the skill. Rivets are handy. Scout makes them look nice. But when I do them, I must do it twice. Thanks for the fun. 🤠
I remember in metal shop in Jr high school making a metal box. One side of the box we solderd and one side we riveted. I have a good collection of different rivets including brass rivets for replacing bands on a ford model t transmission. The parts of your video with the copper rivets reminds me of Levi denim pants that my mother quit buying for me when they raised the price to 4.25 from 4.00 so I had to start wearing cheaper jeans. I use to remove the red Levi tag off the rear pocket of the Levi's and sew it on to my cheap jeans so I wouldn't get used as punching bag in school.
Cool, a trip back to my grandpa's corn farm in Iowa. He used those corn cobs for file handles as well. He fought in WWI, lived through the great depression and I got to spend some one-on-one time with him so I learned a lot. He was wise. I got the bug, learned woodworking, leatherwork, welding/fabrication, electronics, etc and I don't regret any of it. It makes me happy to teach others too, so I appreciate what you are doing here! Thanks
My grandfather had brass split rivets when I was a kid, he taught me how to use them for all kinds of projects. Knife skabbords to arrow quivers. Love the video, made me feel 10 again..
I have used ATS rivet squeezer and dies 25+ yrs ago. Unfortunately it has a narrow, maybe 3" throat but it is great for repairing joints on small and large tool boxes. Was able to tighten the rivets on a wooden 6' step ladder. You only need it when you do. Thanks for the upload. I think the ATS is primarily used in aircraft industry. ATS still sells today on their website listing a 22" throat tool. Keeps me searching for a used one. My brother-in-law worked for Boeing years ago. I'm sure if I got serious one could be located in the Seattle area. Never enough. Have a greater one.
Bless him he rambled at the beginning a bit, but once I continued to listen he was actually giving some very good advice and tips. I thank you fot posting this video Sir
Well that answers that for me John! I found a bunch of the copper rivets in my grandfather's stuff. I figured they were rivets, but had no idea that a doming tool was made for them. Thanks for showing this. Always great to learn new things here! Funny thing was I was thinking of Marty's tool also right before you mentioned it! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
ScoutCrafter memory lane. at 1 time for 10 years. i worked for a precision fastener company. includes POP RIVETS AND TOOLS. i was the mechanic to repair the pneumatic and hydraulic rivet guns. even bought my dad a rivet gun and he loves it, still have a rivet gun that was obsoleted. memories thank you Bobby
This is so cool: there are many of these old rivets kicking around here from past estate sale purchases & I never really knew how they went together....until now.... and the corncob handle is just brilliant. By the way, thanks so much for saving my ears by editing out the banging. That takes time yet you do it for "us" anyway. Have a great day!!
I have a collapsible clothes drying rack that uses rivets to hold together a folding metal hinge between the legs. One of the rivets broke off when the rack fell over one day. I wasn't sure what kind if rivet to use to repair it. But it looks very similar to the two piece rivet you showed last. Thank you.
Glad to see you start your video on the front porch again, it’s a nice touch. Looks too cold there to spend much time outside. Great to have a warm basement/workshop. I worked in a Shipyard in Avondale, La. for 44 years. During those years I worked in many different departments one department I worked in, was Heavy Equipment Maintenance. In that department we used a variety of many different types of rivets very interesting what you can do with them. I enjoy your channel keep up the good work and your variety of subjects
Hi Frank! I bet you have some awesome stories working in a shipyard so long! My Dad used to drive me over to the Brooklyn shipyards where we would have eat lunch in the car while overlooking all the great stuff going on! I am still fascinated by it! Looking forward to see the Titanic 2! =D Thanks!
Hi Scout, I'm a little late to the show today, just got back from a friend who welded something up for me. The copper rivets are really cool, but for some reason I kept thinking about that clamp just showed at the start of the video.. It's really nice! Great instructional, wasn't wrong looking forward to this all day. Thanks a lot! Time to get in the sack for me now.
Like the shout out to Marty. Love that channel. Quick request - I would love to learn the difference between various plastics and various adhesives. If you have some knowledge about such things, please consider an episode about that.
Well Done ScoutCrafter! I have a tool used to rivet the blades onto a sickle bar mowing machine... the rivets are on the shelf at my local tractor supply store. It is a rotary type tool. Also... “micro machines” here on RUclips did a great video on installing rivets in aluminum body that he is building using an air hammer and dolly. Really great stuff Scout! Thanks!
Corn cob! who would have thought! I used those copper rivets a lot in leather. I love them. You should make a dome tool for the Dake after peening with a hammer, let the Dake take care of the rest, especially with copper. A lot of the old cars had rivets instead of bolts, probably cheaper having a bucket of rivets than to use bolts. My '64 Chevy C-10 frame is riveted together. Been fun cutting those babies out as needed for ball joints, new brake drums etc. I agree on the pop rivets, I try to use my dome tool to finish those if I can. great video on Rivets!!
Great video! I was riveted to the screen. Those pop rivets brought me back to the days when we used to replace fabric on high speed doors. 40-50 rivets squeezed in by hand. I wonder why I have carpal tunnel syndrome now. Lol. Great stuff as always!
For file handles spent shotgun cartridges with the primers removed and die infilled with wood can be used.The file can be introduced into the cartridge via the primer hole.
John, I wondered if in the past you had ever experimented with small hot rivets? In general, of course, the goal on this channel is a functional, often attractive restoration. As I get better at detailed restorations, personally I get more curious about the really tough stuff - I'll call "museum-grade" restoration. I wonder if one could use either MAP+O2 or OxyAcetline torch to heat smaller rivets, use a small anvil or anvil area, a shaped mandrel like the ones you made for the copper rivets, and peen a clean rivet in a full museum-grade type of restoration? Have any other viewers tried this in the past? I might put this on my "breakthrough skills" to attempt and report back later in the year. Nice segment. A logical follow on to this piece would be grommets.
Hi Marc- I have a pair of pliers I bought just for that purpose! It needs a new rivet and I wanted to use heat and the Dake to see if I could replicate the original... =D Nothing to lose here! LOL
Thanks for the information. It was very useful. I too am a subscriber to Marty's channel and he does an excellent job of restoring Matchbox cars. I keep looking at your earlier episodes and I always find something new to learn about.
Ah I have always wonder what those "Chicago screws" were actually called. We see them all the time for binding hole punched engineering drawing sets when not in binders. Never considered they might be used as actual fasteners elsewhere. Sweet intro! Talking Marty I would love to see your take on a hot wheels restoration someday. I think you would knock it out of the park!
You can modify c clamps to do rivets theres a few folks that do leatherwork and hotwheel restorations that use that method and it works fairly well from what ive seen and my experiences using them
What a great instructional video. I never used the copper peen over rivet but now I am looking for a project to try these. And yes the Chicago rivet is commonly known as a sex bolt.
@@ScoutCrafter I was in the construction fastener business for many years but the first time a customer asked me for a sex bolt I took a giant step backwards.
WOW, ScoutCrafter! You're a Marty's Matchbox Makeovers fan too! Guess creative people manage to find each other, right? And then, there's Kevin... sheesh! :-D
Interesting John . When I first started my Ironworking career in 1972 , and I gained the nickname "Rivets" . The first long job (1 year ) I had as an apprentice , was working on our County courthouse jail cells . The plate walls were riveted together with 3/8" rivets and a pnumatic riveter with a back=up man. The cells were in the basement , 3rd and 4th floors. So Daily I had to carry welding/cutting supplies , bolts and nuts , and a whole lotta rivets between floors , I can understand why they gave me that nickname.The backup man used a tool that was named in the 1800's. It was a long round heavy piece of steel that had a counter sunk dome on one end named a "HorseCock" , I S**t you Not !
LOL Dave!!!!! I can see why that tool was named that because of the way it looked! That was a tough job back then because all the equipment was super heavy! Even a sack of rivets! Your knees and back must be shot now! We are going to need some titanium rivets to keep them in place! LOL Thanks!!!!!!!
Good show. If you want a close to permanent way to join two items; take a look at Corby screws. They are generally used by knife makers. Use permanent (red or green) Loctite, and grind off what you don't want sticking out. The are very easy to use and you don't need a whole lot of tools to get a good looking result. I use brass ones. But, they come in several different metals. Cheap, too.
Stephen- Yes! I have a bunch of Corby screws awaiting projects! I always hated pinning scales, as I chipped and split some handle material- From now on no more hammering on scales for me! 😃👍
Multi-purpose corn cobs nd you used an Estwing hammer the other day and I didn't say anything about it. I must be slipping. Good riveting experience, John CS! Blessings 2 U and Smiley!
Thank you for another great video, not sure if you have covered it in the past any way you can do a video on your process of sharpening the cutting edges on linesman pliers and diagonal pliers? Some scoutcrafter tips and tricks. Thank you in advance.
Those "Chicago screws" are basically the same thing as Corby fasteners used by knifemakers to fix handles to knife tangs. The only difference is the head shape.
Wow what a great video ,very useful information for me that I did not know before, all I knew was just those standard pop rivets before this or would just grab a nut and bolt to try to fix something but now I could do it the right way and make a great job of it, thanks a lot. Ken
Those rivets look nice rounded over like that. I kind of like the look of hammer facets on the peened over part too though. I guess it depends on the application. Big thumbs up on the corncob file handle too! 👍🏼👍🏼. Take Care 😁
Great topic today’s John I learned something today. I have also seen on a RUclips channel which I don’t remember of a river center that looks like a C clamp any ideas on that
Scout - I was brought to your channel by Klein on Instagram. Really liked your video on the old klein lineman pliers restoration. I have a set that is in worse shape. I dug them up in the back yard maybe 10 years ago, no idea where they came from. I don't think they are Klein. They have an L2 or LZ on the handle. Looks like it was made to have a spring between the handles, one hole on each handle right next to the joint. Any idea what this is? I was going to clean them up like you did and get the Klein replacement handles hoping they fit. These pliers are 7-3/4 inches long. By the way, I have grown to really like these pliers. They were rusted shut but I was able to free it with a lot of work and WD-40.
Great video scout I learnt something new today I gotta get me some of those Chicago screws ha ha Could you show us some of your leather work with the rivets you used that would be great 👍 I’m a big fan of The copper and brass rivets I never knew there were so many different rivets crazy god bless take care 🇺🇸👏🇳🇿🙏🛠🔩
Great to know! My neighbor's been feeding the deer so I've been finding dried up corn cobs around my place. Bonus is, I won't have to wait until July. Gotta love your "waste nothing" approach to things, Scout. Never heard them called Chicago screws, have heard them called "sex bolts". Now the question is: is a Chicago screw a sex bolt?
Hi John , Good Info . I Work on HW & Matchboxes too . Use 2-56 Allen cap "Screws" . That Was A fun to Watch Video . I See You're Teaching us All . You Also Are Having Copycats out there.
Sweet corn must be very expensive in New York? We usually don't eat it as close to the cob as you do. Appreciate the education on rivets, I was given a bunch of steel rivets and have never had much luck using them. Thought I needed to be taught better I guess I've been taught to avoid them.
Dreaded pop rivet, is the exact word I would use. Trying to restore a wooden folding table that has been riveted together. Never again, they are difficult and time consuming to remove from wood without damaging! Reserve for metal me thinks. I’m going to make a new table!
Marty's videos are great. This was some very valuable and great information. Like to say welcome to all the new people :D. Thanks Scout we'll see you Friday =D
Great video buddy! In a previous lifetime I was a semi trailer mechanic and I've bucked probably a million rivets LOL I think my hearing is a little shot from an even with wearing protection
You said that you don't like Pop rivets. They are called Cherry. Max or blind rivets . they are used in aircraft where you can't get to the other side.they work very well. ECK USMC
I put small rivets in the corners of pockets on jeans and on purses. Can’t tell you how many times I have hit my fingers when I try to hit them with the hammer. What kind of metal do the need to be when you use on tools? Only steel?
Hi Teresa- Steel is a good choice for softer materials like Aluminum, Brass and Copper... For steel rivets you have to have a hardened tool so it doesn't deform along with the rivet! =D
Thank you for the great information ….. Now here is the million dollar question……..How do I remove a old rivet with a burr? They are rusted in a old steamer trunk. 😊
I've done a few of the double flat rivets. Net result of not having a torch and setting plates. Given that I basically had everything red hot and floating over the anvil I'm mildly surprised they came out functional. Absolutely not pretty, but at least functional and reasonably strong.
You know, after watching that i went the next day on a wild goose looking for a corn cob to put on a file i had just restored (lightly wire brushed) but the only one i could find was an old one the mice must have drug in the barn last fall. but now that you've mentioned it, next harvest i'm gonna make a video on all the different uses for corn cobs. that's also a really cool name.
I've used a cold riveter that worked like Marty's Matchbook Makeovers method. It had a very robust chassis like an arbor press. The head ran at about 60-100 rpm. The trick was that unlike Marty's set-up on the drill press the dome forming tool wasn't vertical (though the drive was). The end of the forming tool was off-set 5-10 degrees so that when it was running it appeared to be oscillating. The tool was hardened and polished and when it came down onto the rivet it "walked" around the rivet and deformed it into a very nice looking dome. Oil on the rivets kept the tool from galling the rivet head. There were adjustments so once set it was easy to get repeatable results in a production run. There were different tools for different styles of rivets.
When you see a rivet with concentric circles on the head it was probably done with this type of tool.
Cheers from NC/USA
WOW!!!!!!!!!!!! That is awesome!!! Nothing beats a well formed rivet! Thanks for that outstanding explanation!!!!!
We used that type of machine to set rivets at Douglas Autotech. They set thousands of rivets. Good machine only replaced one setting tool in 6 years.
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At the risk of being corny I found tonight's episode riveting
Amaizeing...so did I
I knew someone would cob together punny line...
Thank you Captain predictable
Those Chicago screws are EXACTLY what I was looking for instead of buying a riveting gun and rivets. Thank you for the video.....
Those Chicago screws remind me of the hardware on the old Disston hand saws.
357magdad Yes!!! Same exact screw! 😃👍
@@ScoutCrafter Had a customer come in our store and ask if we had sex screws. Of course I laughed and then he described these Chicago screws. I'm always learning, haha ! But when a women came in and described what she needed I told her what she needs is a sex screw I thought she was going to slap me. Sometimes it's fun working at a Hardware store!
@@choppermike3329 That's what I know them as, Mike 😂
@@ArmandoLoni Ah, so it is more common than I thought. Also interesting that it is used in the U.K.😆👍
I love travelling over old riveted steel bridges. That riveted construction is absolutely beautiful.
Beeboo Popper I agree! Those old girders were so Art Deco!
@@johnyoung4747 Not much does.
Scoutcrafter, in school metalworking classes we were taught how to use a soft iron rivet and then countersink the opposite side and cut the rivet proud. Then ball pein the rivet into the countersink until it fills the countersink entirely. Once filed flat the repair virtually disappears and is my favourite way of attaching spade heads to new handles. If you cannot get soft iron rivets then use an iron nail. Heat to red heat and let it cool slowly to anneal it. Then rivet but he careful as lots of little taps will work harden the rivet. Has been useful for the past 50 years. Great video as always, informative, useful and thoroughly entertaining.
Tony- Look at this great video on just that technique- ruclips.net/video/FnBZltkXqT0/видео.html
Thanks for the heads up, really enjoyed the video and took me straight back to metalworking classes 😁
Wow, who knew someone could make a 16 minute video about rivets so riveting! Thanks for the info, Scout.
I need to see Scoutcrafter restoring a corn cob 😂👍🏻
Wouldn’t you know it,
Scout’s on the job.
He started this show
with a doggone corn cob.
Then on to rivets.
He doesn’t like pop.
He just kept on talking.
The guy never stops.
So many types.
So many rivets.
More types than when
I golf and make divets.
I like them all
Especially for leather.
They don’t add weight.
They’re light as a feather.
Along comes the tools.
The dome’s shaped like a dill.
He says we can make them.
Like we have the skill.
Rivets are handy.
Scout makes them look nice.
But when I do them,
I must do it twice.
Thanks for the fun. 🤠
Mark! Awesome! 😃👍
I remember in metal shop in Jr high school making a metal box. One side of the box we solderd and one side we riveted. I have a good collection of different rivets including brass rivets for replacing bands on a ford model t transmission. The parts of your video with the copper rivets reminds me of Levi denim pants that my mother quit buying for me when they raised the price to 4.25 from 4.00 so I had to start wearing cheaper jeans. I use to remove the red Levi tag off the rear pocket of the Levi's and sew it on to my cheap jeans so I wouldn't get used as punching bag in school.
Cool, a trip back to my grandpa's corn farm in Iowa. He used those corn cobs for file handles as well. He fought in WWI, lived through the great depression and I got to spend some one-on-one time with him so I learned a lot. He was wise.
I got the bug, learned woodworking, leatherwork, welding/fabrication, electronics, etc and I don't regret any of it. It makes me happy to teach others too, so I appreciate what you are doing here! Thanks
Also called a bucking tool. It puts a nice dome on a rivet. Great video !
THANK YOU...for sharing. My dad was a big fan of rivets, he was always making things and using rivets to hold them together. Great show John.
Gary- I too have always loved rivets!! 😃👍
My grandfather had brass split rivets when I was a kid, he taught me how to use them for all kinds of projects. Knife skabbords to arrow quivers. Love the video, made me feel 10 again..
preston janney Those are such great fasteners! 😃👍
I have used ATS rivet squeezer and dies 25+ yrs ago. Unfortunately it has a narrow, maybe 3" throat but it is great for repairing joints on small and large tool boxes. Was able to tighten the rivets on a wooden 6' step ladder. You only need it when you do. Thanks for the upload. I think the ATS is primarily used in aircraft industry. ATS still sells today on their website listing a 22" throat tool. Keeps me searching for a used one. My brother-in-law worked for Boeing years ago. I'm sure if I got serious one could be located in the Seattle area. Never enough. Have a greater one.
cuddytom The Aviation industry took riveting to a whole new level! Now THAT is what riveting should look like! 😃👍
Bless him he rambled at the beginning a bit, but once I continued to listen he was actually giving some very good advice and tips. I thank you fot posting this video Sir
Well that answers that for me John! I found a bunch of the copper rivets in my grandfather's stuff. I figured they were rivets, but had no idea that a doming tool was made for them. Thanks for showing this. Always great to learn new things here! Funny thing was I was thinking of Marty's tool also right before you mentioned it! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Not only are those file handles comfy, they're also great for the environment unlike plastic handles. Great video as always!
ScoutCrafter memory lane. at 1 time for 10 years. i worked for a precision fastener company. includes POP RIVETS AND TOOLS. i was the mechanic to repair the pneumatic and hydraulic rivet guns. even bought my dad a rivet gun and he loves it, still have a rivet gun that was obsoleted. memories thank you Bobby
This is so cool: there are many of these old rivets kicking around here from past estate sale purchases & I never really knew how they went together....until now.... and the corncob handle is just brilliant. By the way, thanks so much for saving my ears by editing out the banging. That takes time yet you do it for "us" anyway. Have a great day!!
Franken HateGooPlus I once heard that if you listen thru headphones loud noises are shockingly loud! 😃👍
I remember seeing the video with the old file handles but I had totally forgotten about the corncob. Thanks for reminding me!
Never used copper rivets. I have used pop rivets and Chicago screws. Learned a lot. Thanks
Glen- They are SUPER strong! easy too!
I have a collapsible clothes drying rack that uses rivets to hold together a folding metal hinge between the legs. One of the rivets broke off when the rack fell over one day. I wasn't sure what kind if rivet to use to repair it. But it looks very similar to the two piece rivet you showed last. Thank you.
Glad to see you start your video on the front porch again, it’s a nice touch. Looks too cold there to spend much time outside. Great to have a warm basement/workshop. I worked in a Shipyard in Avondale, La. for 44 years. During those years I worked in many different departments one department I worked in, was
Heavy Equipment Maintenance. In that department we used a variety of many different types of rivets very interesting what you can do with them. I enjoy your channel keep up the good work and your variety of subjects
Hi Frank! I bet you have some awesome stories working in a shipyard so long! My Dad used to drive me over to the Brooklyn shipyards where we would have eat lunch in the car while overlooking all the great stuff going on! I am still fascinated by it! Looking forward to see the Titanic 2! =D Thanks!
Perfect timing...i have an upcoming project with copper rivets, you answered all my question. Cheers
God bless you for showing us beginners kinds of rivets. Many thanks for very useful tips and informations
Hi Scout, I'm a little late to the show today, just got back from a friend who welded something up for me. The copper rivets are really cool, but for some reason I kept thinking about that clamp just showed at the start of the video.. It's really nice! Great instructional, wasn't wrong looking forward to this all day. Thanks a lot! Time to get in the sack for me now.
Like the shout out to Marty. Love that channel.
Quick request - I would love to learn the difference between various plastics and various adhesives. If you have some knowledge about such things, please consider an episode about that.
Absolutely Ben! 😃👍
Well Done ScoutCrafter! I have a tool used to rivet the blades onto a sickle bar mowing machine... the rivets are on the shelf at my local tractor supply store. It is a rotary type tool. Also... “micro machines” here on RUclips did a great video on installing rivets in aluminum body that he is building using an air hammer and dolly. Really great stuff Scout! Thanks!
T-Wrecks! Air hammers and dolly’s are the ultimate for beautiful riveting! They have hydraulic rivet clamps for edge work too! 😃👍
great info as always. love marty’s matchbox makeover - funny how we all watch similar channels!
Marlene I love his pranks and jokes!!! 😃👍
Cob handles are great but we also used cobs to plug the neck of the kerosene jug.
Dan Now that is old school awesome!!!! 😃👍
That's a good idea corn handle, learning a lot from you Scout. Man i wish i wouldn't have all of that snow in my yard, we have to much. ☝️☝️
Steph We have been so lucky this year! (East coast that is)
Corn cob! who would have thought! I used those copper rivets a lot in leather. I love them. You should make a dome tool for the Dake after peening with a hammer, let the Dake take care of the rest, especially with copper. A lot of the old cars had rivets instead of bolts, probably cheaper having a bucket of rivets than to use bolts. My '64 Chevy C-10 frame is riveted together. Been fun cutting those babies out as needed for ball joints, new brake drums etc. I agree on the pop rivets, I try to use my dome tool to finish those if I can. great video on Rivets!!
Aaron! '64 C-10! AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!
Great video! I was riveted to the screen. Those pop rivets brought me back to the days when we used to replace fabric on high speed doors. 40-50 rivets squeezed in by hand. I wonder why I have carpal tunnel syndrome now. Lol. Great stuff as always!
For file handles spent shotgun cartridges with the primers removed and die infilled with wood can be used.The file can be introduced into the cartridge via the primer hole.
Mats Andresson I love shotguns! 😃👍
John, I wondered if in the past you had ever experimented with small hot rivets? In general, of course, the goal on this channel is a functional, often attractive restoration. As I get better at detailed restorations, personally I get more curious about the really tough stuff - I'll call "museum-grade" restoration. I wonder if one could use either MAP+O2 or OxyAcetline torch to heat smaller rivets, use a small anvil or anvil area, a shaped mandrel like the ones you made for the copper rivets, and peen a clean rivet in a full museum-grade type of restoration? Have any other viewers tried this in the past? I might put this on my "breakthrough skills" to attempt and report back later in the year. Nice segment. A logical follow on to this piece would be grommets.
Hi Marc- I have a pair of pliers I bought just for that purpose! It needs a new rivet and I wanted to use heat and the Dake to see if I could replicate the original... =D Nothing to lose here! LOL
Great channel...corncob handle ? Great in a pinch,maybe. Clever...solid demo on rivets.,though. Really enjoy the videos 👍🇺🇸
Joe- I know it sounds crazy! The corn cob handle is super comfortable and really works! The problem is you look like a goober using it! =D
A good tool post. Very informative. Now time for a cold bottle of beer. Cheers !
Ron! It’s Miller time! 😃👍
Thanks for the information. It was very useful. I too am a subscriber to Marty's channel and he does an excellent job of restoring Matchbox cars. I keep looking at your earlier episodes and I always find something new to learn about.
Ah I have always wonder what those "Chicago screws" were actually called. We see them all the time for binding hole punched engineering drawing sets when not in binders. Never considered they might be used as actual fasteners elsewhere. Sweet intro!
Talking Marty I would love to see your take on a hot wheels restoration someday. I think you would knock it out of the park!
You can modify c clamps to do rivets theres a few folks that do leatherwork and hotwheel restorations that use that method and it works fairly well from what ive seen and my experiences using them
Rivets are cool - exposed fasteners always look nice to me.
Do you think you could do a video on brazing & soldering?
Great lesson. Can I use the Chicago screw for vintage hand saw handle attachment? Thanks for the info.
Tony They are just like the originals except not as wide!
What a great instructional video. I never used the copper peen over rivet but now I am looking for a project to try these. And yes the Chicago rivet is commonly known as a sex bolt.
John- I think I would ask the guy at the hardware store for a Chicago rivet first... Then if he had no idea I would whisper “sex-bolt?” 😂😂😂
@@ScoutCrafter I was in the construction fastener business for many years but the first time a customer asked me for a sex bolt I took a giant step backwards.
As always, great video. Thanks for sharing. It is great fun watching other people work.
WOW, ScoutCrafter! You're a Marty's Matchbox Makeovers fan too! Guess creative people manage to find each other, right? And then, there's Kevin... sheesh! :-D
Dave- I was one of Marty’s first subscribers! I wondered why he didn’t have more subs? A year later and he skyrocketed! 😃👍
I'm subscribed to him too and I watch does an amazing job restoring old pieces
@@bluemantom77 Me too. Some of his comedy really cracks me up.
Another excellent tutorial Mate!!☺
805ROADKING King- Those pop rivets only look good from one side! 😃
Interesting John . When I first started my Ironworking career in 1972 , and I gained the nickname "Rivets" . The first long job (1 year ) I had as an apprentice , was working on our County courthouse jail cells . The plate walls were riveted together with 3/8" rivets and a pnumatic riveter with a back=up man. The cells were in the basement , 3rd and 4th floors. So Daily I had to carry welding/cutting supplies , bolts and nuts , and a whole lotta rivets between floors , I can understand why they gave me that nickname.The backup man used a tool that was named in the 1800's. It was a long round heavy piece of steel that had a counter sunk dome on one end named a "HorseCock" , I S**t you Not !
LOL Dave!!!!! I can see why that tool was named that because of the way it looked! That was a tough job back then because all the equipment was super heavy! Even a sack of rivets! Your knees and back must be shot now! We are going to need some titanium rivets to keep them in place! LOL Thanks!!!!!!!
Great vid. They do make a tool called a spinner Jantz knife supply sells them I have one for spinning the ends of pins on pocket knives I make.
I will check it out! Thanks Abe!
Good show. If you want a close to permanent way to join two items; take a look at Corby screws. They are generally used by knife makers. Use permanent (red or green) Loctite, and grind off what you don't want sticking out. The are very easy to use and you don't need a whole lot of tools to get a good looking result. I use brass ones. But, they come in several different metals. Cheap, too.
Stephen- Yes! I have a bunch of Corby screws awaiting projects! I always hated pinning scales, as I chipped and split some handle material- From now on no more hammering on scales for me! 😃👍
Multi-purpose corn cobs nd you used an Estwing hammer the other day and I didn't say anything about it. I must be slipping. Good riveting experience, John CS! Blessings 2 U and Smiley!
thankyou very much. been after some Chicago screws, but never knew the what to call them.
Just wanted to say this was a great informative video, thanks for making it!
Thank you for another great video, not sure if you have covered it in the past any way you can do a video on your process of sharpening the cutting edges on linesman pliers and diagonal pliers? Some scoutcrafter tips and tricks. Thank you in advance.
Hi Andrew! Check out this video- It has some good sharpening advise in it! =) ruclips.net/video/BXtQDtX3xfg/видео.html
Those "Chicago screws" are basically the same thing as Corby fasteners used by knifemakers to fix handles to knife tangs. The only difference is the head shape.
Wow what a great video ,very useful information for me that I did not know before, all I knew was just those standard pop rivets before this or would just grab a nut and bolt to try to fix something but now I could do it the right way and make a great job of it, thanks a lot. Ken
Those rivets look nice rounded over like that. I kind of like the look of hammer facets on the peened over part too though. I guess it depends on the application. Big thumbs up on the corncob file handle too! 👍🏼👍🏼. Take Care 😁
Now I can make all my pants look like Levi’s! Great video!
Reactionary commentary-free. Thanks.
Another great video. Are rivets used to hold scales on knives? Can't wait till Friday. Thanks, John. Jim
Watchinyourback hi Jim- Check out Corby rivets for knife scales!!! 😃👍
@@ScoutCrafter Thanks John. Have a great week. Jim
Has anyone explained why there is a ball on the ball peenhammer. Or for a riveting hammer. Just a thought. Thank for your videos
You know that might be an excellent topic for a video!!!!
Great video
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GODBLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY AND FRIENDS.
Really good presentation. Thanks. But you still get such rivets these days?
This is great stuff! This totally answer's questions I've had about copper rivet's 👍
Great topic today’s John I learned something today. I have also seen on a RUclips channel which I don’t remember of a river center that looks like a C clamp any ideas on that
Allen There are many types of rivet presses, hydraulic, gear driven, leverage... The “C” Clamp is just another way to form the dome! 😃👍
John, Thank god for Chicago screws much less work and easy to replace. John whatever happened to the Pexto shears did you end up painting the handles
Jorge- Not yet, will cover it on Friday’s video! 😃👍
That was very Riveting to watch !
Scout - I was brought to your channel by Klein on Instagram. Really liked your video on the old klein lineman pliers restoration. I have a set that is in worse shape. I dug them up in the back yard maybe 10 years ago, no idea where they came from. I don't think they are Klein. They have an L2 or LZ on the handle. Looks like it was made to have a spring between the handles, one hole on each handle right next to the joint. Any idea what this is? I was going to clean them up like you did and get the Klein replacement handles hoping they fit. These pliers are 7-3/4 inches long. By the way, I have grown to really like these pliers. They were rusted shut but I was able to free it with a lot of work and WD-40.
Hello Darren! Check out alloy-artifacts.org and see if you can match the pliers up here! Start off by typing in Pliers into the search box! =D
Great video scout I learnt something new today I gotta get me some of those Chicago screws ha ha
Could you show us some of your leather work with the rivets you used that would be great 👍 I’m a big fan of
The copper and brass rivets I never knew there were so many different rivets crazy god bless take care
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Matt I just scratched the surface! Hardware is amazing! 😃👍
Great to know! My neighbor's been feeding the deer so I've been finding dried up corn cobs around my place. Bonus is, I won't have to wait until July. Gotta love your "waste nothing" approach to things, Scout. Never heard them called Chicago screws, have heard them called "sex bolts". Now the question is: is a Chicago screw a sex bolt?
Ricopolico LOL- I heard the stem fitters called them that! 😃👍
Just bought an Arrow rivet gun yesterday! Talk about timing!
Can you use the copper rivets on aluminum?
Hi John , Good Info . I Work on HW & Matchboxes too . Use 2-56 Allen cap "Screws" . That Was A fun to Watch Video . I See You're Teaching us All . You Also Are Having Copycats out there.
Nice overview. Thanks Scout.
Love the Red White and Blue before all your videos!
Sweet corn must be very expensive in New York? We usually don't eat it as close to the cob as you do. Appreciate the education on rivets, I was given a bunch of steel rivets and have never had much luck using them. Thought I needed to be taught better I guess I've been taught to avoid them.
Michael- They aren't for everything but are great when used on certain items!
Dreaded pop rivet, is the exact word I would use. Trying to restore a wooden folding table that has been riveted together. Never again, they are difficult and time consuming to remove from wood without damaging! Reserve for metal me thinks. I’m going to make a new table!
Many times when installing door closers we use what I've always called sex bolts. It's the same thing is Chicago screws.
Great video ScoutCrafter. Now I want to know more about rivet nuts. I guess that’s what they’re called.
Dan They are awesome! I have to cover “Threaded inserts”. 😃👍
Those are Cool ! Rivnuts are great for Sheet metal work where you want A Bolt .
Marty's videos are great. This was some very valuable and great information. Like to say welcome to all the new people :D. Thanks Scout we'll see you Friday =D
Lord Venger - Just finished Friday’s video! Hint Perfect Handle “Tool”
@@ScoutCrafter oh man can't wait :D
Great video buddy! In a previous lifetime I was a semi trailer mechanic and I've bucked probably a million rivets LOL I think my hearing is a little shot from an even with wearing protection
I am very sensitive to loud noises myself now!
It actually looks like it would be relaxing work once you found a rhythm
I am 73, raised in Oklahoma. Out on the farm corn cobs were the only file handles you would see 😜
Hi Tom! You know better then most that although they look a little strange they actually work great! Thanks!!
My favorite is female-to-female as well, Scout!
Intresting lesson sir..
Good stuff. I have a few corncob strikers for my slate turkey calls. Many uses indeed. Good information about rivets. I like Marty's channel also. 👍
Robert Foust Resto-Rob in the old days people found lots of uses for stuff! 😃👍
You said that you don't like Pop rivets. They are called Cherry. Max or blind rivets . they are used in aircraft where you can't get to the other side.they work very well. ECK USMC
I put small rivets in the corners of pockets on jeans and on purses. Can’t tell you how many times I have hit my fingers when I try to hit them with the hammer. What kind of metal do the need to be when you use on tools? Only steel?
Hi Teresa- Steel is a good choice for softer materials like Aluminum, Brass and Copper... For steel rivets you have to have a hardened tool so it doesn't deform along with the rivet! =D
Where would Levis Jeans be without copper rivets?
Very interesting tutorial on rivets. - Kathie
Hello John, nice handle you know the corncob in the 1800’s people used it as insulation for the attic, TP too. 🌽🌽🌽🌽🌽
Ernesto- So many uses for the lovely cob! 😃👍
Yup , That and any Paper in the Walls . I Did Demo for A While . Worked on A Couple of Old Houses .
Thank you for the great information ….. Now here is the million dollar question……..How do I remove a old rivet with a burr? They are rusted in a old steamer trunk. 😊
More end knipper pliers please I would love to see more variants of this tool @scoutcrafter
I’m using rivits on parical board, but I can’t find anywhere if there are specific ways to do it.
Could you put the doming tool in a hammer drill to get the desired result?
Possibly! Sounds like a plan!!!!!!
You need an Induction Heater Tool, for those steel rivets! RIP Boy Scouts! =(
Alan Those induction heaters are amazing!
I've done a few of the double flat rivets. Net result of not having a torch and setting plates. Given that I basically had everything red hot and floating over the anvil I'm mildly surprised they came out functional. Absolutely not pretty, but at least functional and reasonably strong.
Allan- Blacksmiths are the King’s of riveting!!!
Very useful info. Thanks for sharing. Best to you!
Great show john very good info
From a firsthand account, corn cob file handles are indeed Farmer approved.
CCF!!! I try to tell my city friends this is no joke! They are awesome!!!! Corn cobs have dozens of uses... My name in German is New Farmer! =D
You know, after watching that i went the next day on a wild goose looking for a corn cob to put on a file i had just restored (lightly wire brushed) but the only one i could find was an old one the mice must have drug in the barn last fall. but now that you've mentioned it, next harvest i'm gonna make a video on all the different uses for corn cobs. that's also a really cool name.