Thanks for this recap. I survived this crash as an infant. Have read through the NTSB report a few times and obviously have heard my mother's account, and this captures it pretty well.
Wow. That's amazing, Ari. Did you have any memory at all? For instance, does the smell of jet fuel bother you? Glad you're still with us. BTW, did you realize you were the first survivor mentioned in breaking news on WGN Chicago? ruclips.net/video/pOg8_IJgsh8/видео.html.
@@daveth121864 Thanks for the kind thoughts! No, I have no memory as I was only a year and a half old or so, so no real long term effects for me and I fly without any issues. I had seen that WGN video a few years ago...crazy.
I had flown with Captain “Whitey” Whitehouse a lot he was a wonderful and kind man he will be forever missed. I’m a retired United Airlines flight attendant.
...indeed. I have tremendous respect for your work. The things you must have seen I can only read about. Its a blessing to retire. You will forever have a unique perspective on this and the experience flying with pilot Whitehouse and the insufferable criticism his memory has endured. I can't imagine what you must have felt when you first saw this in 72. Thanks for sharing.
Not saying the pilot was involved as there doesn’t seem to be any evidence of that, however, really strange coincidence that his last name is WHITEHOUSE. 😳
Excellent job with the graphics and so realistic. Sad to know that people died that day, yet studying the cause helped save others from same errors. May they forever be in remembrance.
I watch a couple of other aviation disaster channels, and love how realistic your videos are. The crash at 5:10 here felt like I was really in the cockpit. It was an uneasy feeling. I hope this channel continues to grow
This the second of your videos I watched today. Thank you. They are full of fascinating detail, but I had to replay bits several times cos you have more than one stream of text at a time.
Thank you too, Raibeart! I try to make my videos more dynamic and not boring, without losing small details. And also try to recreate the atmosphere in the cockpit. I will try to make the following material more measured and convenient for viewing, without losing much in the atmosphere and dynamics.
I had to pause and rewind several times to read the bottom ones and reimagining what happened by listening and reading the yellow conversations...but overall it's a well done video. Scarily fascinating...thank you. RIP to the good people that died that day...a plane crash is always interesting yet very sad at the same time...just like watching tornado videos...
Thank you, Lady Voldemort! I try to make videos dynamic and at the same time filled with sufficient information to cover the causes of disasters. And also immerse into the atmosphere in the crew cockpit. This is not very easy to do, but I really try to improve it. P.S. I fully support your feelings!
Tornados, not cyclones as some have pointed out. Also, not Commander, Captain. Not dispatcher, Air traffic controller or more specific in this case, tower controller. And it's called a "Go Around" not second round.
My great uncle was on this flight I was never old enough to ask him because when I was old enough to understand he was in this crash he had alzheimers and it was terrible seeing him deteriorate i can only think this crash had a lot to do with that
There can never be enough info about this Dec. 8th 1972 tragedy. Thank you for this contribution. Well done, Penguin. It was ice needle cold that day. Ice rain. Slush. I was nine. Michelle Clark was all I knew. Quiet, petite, and rode my Dad's CTA bus to work quite often. He also knew the director of the funeral home that handled her remains. I remember the faces in our living room when he told my parents about sending the hearst directly to 70th and Hamlin crash site, and Ms. Clark in a black rubber zipper bag...intact. Dad wanted to know one thing. He held up his morning Sun Times newspaper and pointed to her face...her smile. He nodded. And she was still pretty, he said. It was the smoke, not the fire. Dad lowered his head. He wept. So did Mom...for him. We all did for Michelle...and 553.
I am so sorry for your loss. Surviving the death of loved ones and relatives, especially such a tragic one, is always very difficult. Thank you for sharing your story! Owing to it, we've learned about Michelle Clark and were able to read about her life and professionalism. May the luck always be with you and your family!
Enjoyed the vid but u REALLY should leave the text on the screen for just a lil bit longer. I found myself having to speed read to keep up w/things...& it gets worse at the vid goes on I mean, who can read that fast?? & it's not just reading. It takes a split second to process what ur saying & develop a mental picture of what's goin on...just slow it down a lil bit is all...Just a suggestion.
Thank you for your opinion! I try to make videos interesting, dynamic and at the same time enough informative. It can be very difficult to combine all these qualities in one project, but I learn and try very hard. Hope not to disappoint you in the future! Merry Christmas!
@@flywithpenguin oh I wasn't disappointed, I was just offering constructive criticism is all. I'll think you're doin a fine job. Thx for the reply & a happy holidays to you as well. 😉👍👍✌
I can only suggest you to turn subtitles off. Yes, "lane" is not correct. This terminology was violated due to my experiments with the auto-translation function. As they say, Rome wasn’t built in a day.
I highly doubt he was referring to a tornado-like cyclone. Maybe a strong area of low pressure that can obviously be cyclogenic. You wouldn't compare a tornado to a cyclone. It would make more sense to compare a cyclone (like in the East) to hurricanes (like we get here in the west) and a hurricane is obviously just a huge low pressure cyclone.
So much for a highly experienced crew. With many thousand hours on type, you'd figure they would know this airplane very well. Obviously they didn't. Complacency bites. RIP
twerp, when two different settings have an identical signal, you can't blame the pilots. Better instrumentation was developed later. Now go back o your basement and figure out why today's aircraft are a tad better than the ones in the early 70s.
@@watchgoose Mo River is right. What that crew faced was not unrealistic. Yes it was a very late call by ATC, but we're trained to be prepared for a go around no matter if you're at 200 feet, or 2 feet above the runway. In fact, it's so important that in training we jokingly call landings "missed go-arounds." The old stage one cigar engines on that model were anemic at best, so the power response was indeed really slow. ATC has a fair amount of blame too. That was awfully late to start changing runways.But had the crew not been preoccupied with the flaps (and far more critical, the spoilers that were still engaged), they should habit been able to climb out of that situation. The pucker factor would have been about a 9.7, but still.
50 years ago...yesterday . I drove by the site yesterday. The house with the red bricks is still there. You can still see the repair lines. Thinking of you, Michelle.
This is not true. CVR was in good condition. FDR (Flight Data Recorder) did not function during last 14 minutes. You can check paragraph 1.11 of the "Flight Recorders" official report. Also, in this report you can find the section "Appendix F - Transcription of CVR", which contains information about the negotiations in the cockpit until the plane crash. Link to the report: www.fss.aero/accident-reports/dvdfiles/US/1972-12-08-US.pdf
@@flywithpenguin ur right the info i got was wrong, i did more research and found out it was the flight data recorder had a few blank spots... sorry i belived a bad source. .
Thanks for this recap. I survived this crash as an infant. Have read through the NTSB report a few times and obviously have heard my mother's account, and this captures it pretty well.
Wow. That's amazing, Ari. Did you have any memory at all? For instance, does the smell of jet fuel bother you? Glad you're still with us. BTW, did you realize you were the first survivor mentioned in breaking news on WGN Chicago? ruclips.net/video/pOg8_IJgsh8/видео.html.
@@daveth121864 Thanks for the kind thoughts! No, I have no memory as I was only a year and a half old or so, so no real long term effects for me and I fly without any issues. I had seen that WGN video a few years ago...crazy.
Thanks for letting us know you were a passenger on this flight 👍
@@daveth121864 Thanks for the link
I had flown with Captain “Whitey” Whitehouse a lot he was a wonderful and
kind man he will be forever missed. I’m a retired United Airlines flight attendant.
...indeed. I have tremendous respect for your work. The things you must have seen I can only read about. Its a blessing to retire. You will forever have a unique perspective on this and the experience flying with pilot Whitehouse and the insufferable criticism his memory has endured. I can't imagine what you must have felt when you first saw this in 72. Thanks for sharing.
My mom knew him as well. She worked in the Medical Department at National Airport.
WATER GATE files on board with two passengers...this flight was compromised..... just sayin'
Not saying the pilot was involved as there doesn’t seem to be any evidence of that, however, really strange coincidence that his last name is WHITEHOUSE. 😳
Excellent job with the graphics and so realistic. Sad to know that people died that day, yet studying the cause helped save others from same errors. May they forever be in remembrance.
I watch a couple of other aviation disaster channels, and love how realistic your videos are. The crash at 5:10 here felt like I was really in the cockpit. It was an uneasy feeling. I hope this channel continues to grow
Thank you for your review, emm cee!
This the second of your videos I watched today. Thank you. They are full of fascinating detail, but I had to replay bits several times cos you have more than one stream of text at a time.
Thank you too, Raibeart!
I try to make my videos more dynamic and not boring, without losing small details. And also try to recreate the atmosphere in the cockpit.
I will try to make the following material more measured and convenient for viewing, without losing much in the atmosphere and dynamics.
I had to pause and rewind several times to read the bottom ones and reimagining what happened by listening and reading the yellow conversations...but overall it's a well done video. Scarily fascinating...thank you.
RIP to the good people that died that day...a plane crash is always interesting yet very sad at the same time...just like watching tornado videos...
Thank you, Lady Voldemort!
I try to make videos dynamic and at the same time filled with sufficient information to cover the causes of disasters. And also immerse into the atmosphere in the crew cockpit. This is not very easy to do, but I really try to improve it.
P.S. I fully support your feelings!
Tornados, not cyclones as some have pointed out. Also, not Commander, Captain. Not dispatcher, Air traffic controller or more specific in this case, tower controller. And it's called a "Go Around" not second round.
Nice job. Speaking what was on the CVR makes it even more realistic.
Good info, but pls slow down do there's time to read text. Thx.
Push stop....
I agree. Don't want to be fiddling with my mouse when watching the video.
Hi, Suzanne! Thank you for rating! I’ll try to take your desires into account. Wish you a Merry Christmas!
My great uncle was on this flight I was never old enough to ask him because when I was old enough to understand he was in this crash he had alzheimers and it was terrible seeing him deteriorate i can only think this crash had a lot to do with that
The moment you forget basic airmanship.
There can never be enough info about this Dec. 8th 1972 tragedy. Thank you for this contribution. Well done, Penguin. It was ice needle cold that day. Ice rain. Slush. I was nine. Michelle Clark was all I knew. Quiet, petite, and rode my Dad's CTA bus to work quite often. He also knew the director of the funeral home that handled her remains. I remember the faces in our living room when he told my parents about sending the hearst directly to 70th and Hamlin crash site, and Ms. Clark in a black rubber zipper bag...intact. Dad wanted to know one thing. He held up his morning Sun Times newspaper and pointed to her face...her smile. He nodded. And she was still pretty, he said. It was the smoke, not the fire. Dad lowered his head. He wept. So did Mom...for him. We all did for Michelle...and 553.
I am so sorry for your loss. Surviving the death of loved ones and relatives, especially such a tragic one, is always very difficult.
Thank you for sharing your story! Owing to it, we've learned about Michelle Clark and were able to read about her life and professionalism.
May the luck always be with you and your family!
In the simulation, you hear the stick Shaker, but I don't believe that aircraft were equipped with this feature at the time of this crash.
My first time on you're channel, I enjoyed the great video! I'm you're newest subscriber , Merry Christmas to all!
Thanks, Billy! Merry Christmas to you too!
That is really good...What sim did you use for the B737, looks so real.
I am using beta version of X-Plane with many different addons
This crash is my new favorite conspiracy theory because of the watergate leaker and money onboard
Superb graphics, but is the dialogue authentic?
Thank you, TheMaximac! This dialogue is recreated by me and my friend. As you can see, we both have accent problems. But we tried hard🙏
I ALSO LOVED THIS VIDEO
Thank you ever so much!
Enjoyed the vid but u REALLY should leave the text on the screen for just a lil bit longer. I found myself having to speed read to keep up w/things...& it gets worse at the vid goes on I mean, who can read that fast?? & it's not just reading. It takes a split second to process what ur saying & develop a mental picture of what's goin on...just slow it down a lil bit is all...Just a suggestion.
Thank you for your opinion! I try to make videos interesting, dynamic and at the same time enough informative. It can be very difficult to combine all these qualities in one project, but I learn and try very hard. Hope not to disappoint you in the future!
Merry Christmas!
@@flywithpenguin oh I wasn't disappointed, I was just offering constructive criticism is all. I'll think you're doin a fine job. Thx for the reply & a happy holidays to you as well. 😉👍👍✌
Is it just me or is there a problem with the english language here?
Indeed a few funny things in there but this author is not the only one . . . .
Well, unfortunately, English is not my native language😳
@@flywithpenguin You do very well with it, considering it is not your native language.
what's with the double text? And the terminology... "lane"... it's called a RUNWAY
I can only suggest you to turn subtitles off. Yes, "lane" is not correct. This terminology was violated due to my experiments with the auto-translation function. As they say, Rome wasn’t built in a day.
We don't have cyclones in the contenintal United States we have tornadoes.
I highly doubt he was referring to a tornado-like cyclone. Maybe a strong area of low pressure that can obviously be cyclogenic. You wouldn't compare a tornado to a cyclone. It would make more sense to compare a cyclone (like in the East) to hurricanes (like we get here in the west) and a hurricane is obviously just a huge low pressure cyclone.
I learned of this crash from the show “the White House plumbers” , the wife of one of the watergate conspirators died in the crash.
So much for a highly experienced crew. With many thousand hours on type, you'd figure they would know this airplane very well. Obviously they didn't. Complacency bites. RIP
twerp, when two different settings have an identical signal, you can't blame the pilots. Better instrumentation was developed later. Now go back o your basement and figure out why today's aircraft are a tad better than the ones in the early 70s.
@@watchgoose Mo River is right. What that crew faced was not unrealistic. Yes it was a very late call by ATC, but we're trained to be prepared for a go around no matter if you're at 200 feet, or 2 feet above the runway. In fact, it's so important that in training we jokingly call landings "missed go-arounds." The old stage one cigar engines on that model were anemic at best, so the power response was indeed really slow. ATC has a fair amount of blame too. That was awfully late to start changing runways.But had the crew not been preoccupied with the flaps (and far more critical, the spoilers that were still engaged), they should habit been able to climb out of that situation. The pucker factor would have been about a 9.7, but still.
Actually the first crash occurred in 1970 with no fatalities, This was the first *fatal* crash of a 737.
Actually, an aborted take-off can hardly be called "crash". I'd say it was more likely an "accident".
Well, now we know why…
Good vedio
Appreciate it!
48 years ago...yesterday 2:22pm. R.I.P. Michelle...
I'm sure she was a good person. Rest in peace, Michelle...
@@flywithpenguin Greetings...thanks for that.
50 years ago...yesterday . I drove by the site yesterday. The house with the red bricks is still there. You can still see the repair lines. Thinking of you, Michelle.
Pengy great job
Thanks a lot, Jimmy!
Enjoy the video 😁
The last 14mins of audio for this crash was never captured... kinda weird
This is not true. CVR was in good condition. FDR (Flight Data Recorder) did not function during last 14 minutes. You can check paragraph 1.11 of the "Flight Recorders" official report. Also, in this report you can find the section "Appendix F - Transcription of CVR", which contains information about the negotiations in the cockpit until the plane crash.
Link to the report:
www.fss.aero/accident-reports/dvdfiles/US/1972-12-08-US.pdf
@@flywithpenguin ur right the info i got was wrong, i did more research and found out it was the flight data recorder had a few blank spots... sorry i belived a bad source. .
Satch Persaud That'a all right. It happens to everyone!🙂
Lots of tundra for July in Chicago
Thank you! I've corrected the description.
@@flywithpenguin great job on the video otherwise... new sub
Thanks for subscribing, metallicbaldwin🙂 I will try not to disappoint you!
Crash occurred December 8, 1972.
A cyclone? We do not have those in the US
Actually we do. They are called hurricanes.
You can tellEnglish isn’t his first language 😂
You can tell your life must be so dull that you resort to this type of comment. Guess the laugh is on you