Why Does God Need an Investigative Judgement? Featuring @SchoolForProphets

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  • Опубликовано: 18 авг 2024

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  • @hallejudy
    @hallejudy 9 дней назад +1

    Beautiful

  • @larrybedouin2921
    @larrybedouin2921 3 месяца назад +4

    Nice investigation on the investigative judgment brothers.
    Gbu

  • @luisperez-zn5tf
    @luisperez-zn5tf 3 месяца назад +9

    There's Numerous times in the Bible of the Investigative Judgements, from Adam and Eve to Tower of Babylon to Sodom. Throughout the Bible we see this plainly.

    • @mauricethomas7090
      @mauricethomas7090 3 месяца назад

      Can you give me 3 examples from the Bible please.

    • @watchmanofthenight2700
      @watchmanofthenight2700 3 месяца назад

      ​@@mauricethomas7090 Ezekiel, Chapters 1 to 7.
      Daniel 7:9-12; 12:1
      Malachi 3:1-3
      The Parable of the Wedding Feast, Matthew 22:1-14
      A great study regarding the investigative judgment is in the cities of refuge, as they are a type of Christ in the writings of Moses.
      See Numbers 35, Deuteronomy 19, Joshua 20, Deuteronomy 4:41-43.
      Everyone who has come to Jesus, the city of refuge and claimed protection is in the book of life.
      However, in the judgment God will examine to profession: See Ecclesiastes 12:13-14:
      And also 2 Corinthians 5:10:
      “For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive the things done in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad.”

    • @watchmanofthenight2700
      @watchmanofthenight2700 3 месяца назад +1

      Ezekiel, Chapters 1 to 7.
      Daniel 7:9-12; 12:1
      Malachi 3:1-3
      The Parable of the Wedding Feast, Matthew 22:1-14
      A great study regarding the investigative judgment is in the cities of refuge, as they are a type of Christ in the writings of Moses.
      See Numbers 35, Deuteronomy 19, Joshua 20, Deuteronomy 4:41-43.
      Everyone who has come to Jesus, the city of refuge and claimed protection is in the book of life.
      However, in the judgment God will examine to profession: See Ecclesiastes 12:13-14:
      And also 2 Corinthians 5:10:
      For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive the things done in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad.

    • @StillProtesting
      @StillProtesting 3 месяца назад

      @@mauricethomas7090 You could have just watched the video.

    • @mauricethomas7090
      @mauricethomas7090 3 месяца назад +1

      @@StillProtesting I prefer to read the Bible first to see what it teaches. Thank you.

  • @bop-ya-good
    @bop-ya-good 3 месяца назад +2

    Believer: How is the investigation going?
    Sevy: What one is that?
    Believer: You know. The Adventist investigative judgement.
    Sevy: Oh, you know, try not to think of it really.
    Not sure it's that important.
    Believer: Really, I thought it was a core sda doctrine?
    Sevy: Yes, yes you are right, well I confess each night and I'm covered, best I can hope for really seeing I'm on probation.
    Believer: I guess if the atonement at the cross isn't finished yet you could fall on the wrong side of the fence?
    Sevy: Well no I am saved by Grace, But I can still Fall from Grace.
    Believer: So You are saved?
    Sevy: Of Course.
    Believer: But you told me you are being Judged, under the investigative Judgement, Can fall from Grace, and must confess sin each night to stay in Grace!
    Sevy: Well, if you put it like that?

    • @timarnett672
      @timarnett672 2 месяца назад

      SO YEAH, THIS ISN'T A COMEDY SHOW. THE IMPORTANT THING IS THAT THE APOSTLE PETER ALREADY DECLARED THAT THE ALMIGHTY JUDGES HIS HOUSE FIRST, CORRECT? ISN'T THERE SOMETHING BESIDES LIFE AND IMMORTALITY JESUS BRINGS FROM HEAVEN? HOW ABOUT THE REWARDS HE BRINGS FOR HIS FAITHFUL STEWARDS>??? DIDN'T MESSIAH JESUS PROMISE MUCH MORE TO BE GIVEN TO HIS DISCIPLES WHO LEFT ALL THE THINGS OF THIS WORLD BEHIND? YES HE DID. JUST BECAUSE A PERSON IN THEIR VAIN IMAGININGS DOESN'T GET IT, IT DOES NOT MEAN EVERYONE ELSE IS IGNORANT.

  • @iamnickpommells
    @iamnickpommells Месяц назад

    1 Corinthians 6:2-4 we will also have a hand in judging the world. Which is why there needs to be an investigation. ❤

  • @ANTYQUE
    @ANTYQUE 3 месяца назад

    Excellent job covering this topic fellas 👏🏽 Praise God for leading this study. 🙌🏽

  • @bealive4070
    @bealive4070 3 месяца назад +4

    In order to fully appreciate Him as the God of justice, Investigative Judgment is morally proper for Him do to be transparent to the finite because He alone is Infinite.

    • @JamieElison
      @JamieElison 3 месяца назад

      So he says to make it your business of what he's going to do?

    • @justoker4275
      @justoker4275 3 месяца назад

      @JamieElison you sound phony

    • @JamieElison
      @JamieElison 3 месяца назад

      @@justoker4275 so what are you actually trying to say ?you don't like the truth ?or is that what your issue is?

    • @JamieElison
      @JamieElison 3 месяца назад

      @@justoker4275 is that all you have to say ?you don't like the truth ?is that what you're trying to say?

    • @justoker4275
      @justoker4275 3 месяца назад

      @JamieElison your claims are insufficient on spiritual matters which dangerous to you and those alike. Am just sharing Jesus Christ .....

  • @michaelschneider4082
    @michaelschneider4082 3 месяца назад +3

    Ezekiel 33: 12-20 if these verses don’t talk about an investigative judgment.. Brothers and Sisters I don’t know what to tell ya 🙏🏽🙏🏽

    • @JamieElison
      @JamieElison 3 месяца назад

      What's He investigating.? Is there something he didn't know?

    • @michaelschneider4082
      @michaelschneider4082 3 месяца назад

      @@JamieElison His investigation is that of the righteous and wicked. If you study the verses you will notice that both the righteous and the wicked are ever changing and all the while God is watching aka investigating both characters and the information in the individuals book are being processed and changes are being made do to His investigation.

    • @michaelschneider4082
      @michaelschneider4082 3 месяца назад

      @@JamieElison The investigation is not for His benefit for He knows all. It’s for the heavenly host and all that dwell within His vast universe

    • @JamieElison
      @JamieElison 3 месяца назад

      @@michaelschneider4082 show me where it says that in the Bible? 1844 never happened! there is no investigative judgment! Jesus didn't go from a a holy place to a most holy place in 1844. if that's so you don't have Jesus!. That would be blasphemy of the holy Spirit. Because that destroys the cross and what He did( at the cross )!you said the( devil is doing your atonement ) Leviticus 16: 10.in the investigative judgment! That's your confession faith!

    • @JamieElison
      @JamieElison 3 месяца назад

      @@michaelschneider4082 show me that in the Bible!! it doesn't exist !1844 never happened!. Jesus never went from a holy place to a most holy place in 1844! if He did. (Nothing happened at the cross.)!!! Which is your statement already ...the devil is doing your atonement of Leviticus 16:10. +That's your confession of Faith)! that's blaspheming the holy Spirit.. (attributing to the devil what Jesus Christ himself does!)! Matthew 12:31 and 32!

  • @michaelschneider4082
    @michaelschneider4082 3 месяца назад +3

    John5:22 For the Father judheth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son. Powerful words by Jesus Jude1:6 1 John4:17 Hebrews9:27 2 Corinthians5:10

    • @JamieElison
      @JamieElison 3 месяца назад

      What is 2nd Corinthians 5:21 saying?

  • @davidfarr1976
    @davidfarr1976 23 дня назад

    Would someone discuss exactly how the doctrine of the so called investigative judgment came about?

  • @chowman007
    @chowman007 3 месяца назад

    The reason for the Judgement is that God has vowed for affliction never to rise again a second time; therefore, finite mind is being allowed into the infinite as the created will is cured, sealed in the love never imagined or ever thought of.

  • @bop-ya-good
    @bop-ya-good 3 месяца назад

    Are those being judged in the investigative judgment saved people? Or are they unsaved ?

  • @Rio-uv1gs
    @Rio-uv1gs 3 месяца назад

    When does judgement start and end for the righteous? Can anyone be considered righteous prior to Jesus's second coming? When does judgement start for the wicked? Aren't the wicked judged during the thousand years?

    • @fournierro1
      @fournierro1 3 месяца назад

      The righteousness to be had is not ours, but God’s. God reads hearts and is able to discern who is sincere and obedient. A simple way to discern who is faithful is Revelation 12 : 17. Or 14 : 12. Yes one needs the Bible’s description on this topic.

    • @Rio-uv1gs
      @Rio-uv1gs 3 месяца назад

      @@fournierro1 You didn't answer the question.

  • @mwikisanabita6664
    @mwikisanabita6664 3 месяца назад

    I thought you were going to show us how Jesus entered the Most place to start Investigating the lives of people from Adam.. This doctrine has made the sacrifice of Jesus' life on the fruitless.. Could you please explain how Jesus didn't secure our salvation by sacrificing his life on the cross, please ?

  • @bop-ya-good
    @bop-ya-good 3 месяца назад +1

    Can the adventist lose his salvation in the investigative Judgement?

    • @timarnett672
      @timarnett672 2 месяца назад

      2 Timothy 2:19
      “Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.”

    • @bop-ya-good
      @bop-ya-good 2 месяца назад

      ​@timarnett672 is that a yes?

  • @bop-ya-good
    @bop-ya-good 3 месяца назад +1

    So Adventists are saved?
    or
    Saved: In Adventism, being saved is a process, not a one-time event. It involves accepting Jesus' grace, repenting of sins, and living a life committed to following Him?
    If that is true, then they are not sealed but could lose salvation by an unconfessed sin left on the books! At least according to EGW wrings.
    Ephesians 4:30 KJV - And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
    All rather confusing looking in....hope you can clarify so i know what it is Adventists now believe.
    By the way, im sealed, and have a present salvation apart from law. I am dead to law and live unto god.
    Galatians 2:19 KJV - For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God.

    • @timarnett672
      @timarnett672 2 месяца назад

      2 Timothy 2:19
      “Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.”
      Hebrews 4:1
      “Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.”
      Hebrews 4:2
      “For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.”
      Hebrews 4:11
      “Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.”

  • @fournierro1
    @fournierro1 3 месяца назад +4

    God doesn’t need it. We, and all the other worlds, or angels need it. It will prove to all creation that God is love once and all.

    • @justoker4275
      @justoker4275 3 месяца назад +1

      Backup your claim with evidence from the Bible

    • @fournierro1
      @fournierro1 3 месяца назад +1

      Well scripture does not go deep with this, but Jesus in a parable does mention that there is ninety nine sheep that have not gone astray. Yes only one hit the wrong path.

    • @justoker4275
      @justoker4275 3 месяца назад

      @fournierro1 then don't give your opinion on spiritual matters cause God will judge you

    • @FIJIApologist-ab1cd
      @FIJIApologist-ab1cd 3 месяца назад

      @@fournierro1
      "Scripture doesn't go deep with this " ..... this statement clearly shows that the Word of God in the Bible is not enough to you. You need extra-biblical revelation and knowledge to satisfy your own desires. Ellen fulfilled that.

    • @fournierro1
      @fournierro1 3 месяца назад

      @@FIJIApologist-ab1cd love you too.😉

  • @ilijaprskalo1823
    @ilijaprskalo1823 25 дней назад +1

    Blased God you SDA for true

  • @dalisotembo8224
    @dalisotembo8224 3 месяца назад +1

    Everyone knows God will judge everyone's but investigative is in bible guys.

  • @michaelschneider4082
    @michaelschneider4082 3 месяца назад +2

    Don't forget investigation of Cain and Able.

    • @JamieElison
      @JamieElison 3 месяца назад

      Apparently God didn't know anything about it !until he showed up right?

    • @chowman007
      @chowman007 3 месяца назад

      ​@JamieElison ...oh no, He knew about it. That's why He allowed it. An opportunity to reveal totally, himself to the created mind. Finite meets INFINITE.

  • @michaelschneider4082
    @michaelschneider4082 3 месяца назад +3

    Let's not forget another big????? Do the unfallen world's know🤔🤔. When He is finished all will say Your judgment is righteous and true. Read Hebrews1:2 & 11:3

    • @JamieElison
      @JamieElison 3 месяца назад

      Judgment is one thing but he's not investigating it! The saints are never judged for sins. There's only one judgment for sin that's the great white throne judgement. The rest are for rewards for those that are already saved SDA is not saved!

    • @michaelschneider4082
      @michaelschneider4082 3 месяца назад +2

      @@JamieElison Please read and ask the Spirit for help. Your belief in once saved always save is false and misleading False once saved always saved…
      Ezekiel 18: 20-28
      Rev: 2:5 10-11
      Rev: 3: 11-12
      Hebrew: 3: 12-14 10: 27-29
      Matthew: 24:12-13
      1 Cor: 15: 1-2 9:24-27
      James: 1:12-15
      Ezekiel 3: 20-21
      Ezekiel 18:4. That is why we are to repent daily. For every living soul has their own book that will be opened for EVERYONE to see aka the books where opened JUDGEMENT. With in these books are written mine, yours and everyone that has ever existed actions. He will then explain to all those in attendance which is His heavenly host. Why he or she is welcomed in His Kingdom. And why others are utterly destroyed.

    • @JamieElison
      @JamieElison 3 месяца назад

      @@michaelschneider4082 that's not what Jesus says. You don't have the holy Spirit if you did you wouldn't be in SDA. You said the devil is doing your atonement in investigative judgment that's blasphemy of the holy Spirit you can't have the holy Spirit!

    • @michaelschneider4082
      @michaelschneider4082 3 месяца назад

      @@JamieElison I will leave you to your own devices and hope the Holy Spirit guides you to truth. For no weapons formed against me shall prosper and by no means will I allow humanly flesh to distract me from my Heavenly Crown. So peace be with you and blessings from God be showered upon you and yours 🙏🏽🙏🏽

    • @JamieElison
      @JamieElison 3 месяца назад

      @@michaelschneider4082 yeah but those verses don't apply to SDA! they said the devil is doing their atonement!( Jesus Christ doesn't know who they are)!. You can't get to 1844 in the fall with 2300 (the math will not let you do it ).all the rest of the stuff you believe is just like that! That math equation destroyed Jesus Christ at the cross! And destroyed every Prophecy in the Bible .because Daniel 8( is the cornerstone of every Prophecy in the Bible ).Jesus tells you that in Matthew 24:15 and you don't know what it means!

  • @StillProtesting
    @StillProtesting 3 месяца назад +1

    The Bible says that the judgment is in favor of the saints.

    • @JamieElison
      @JamieElison 3 месяца назад

      That's why SDA is in trouble!

    • @StillProtesting
      @StillProtesting 3 месяца назад

      @@JamieElison I think we are pretty confident. 😉

    • @JamieElison
      @JamieElison 3 месяца назад

      @@StillProtesting the Pharisees thought the same thing! that's why you're going to get destroyed! SDA is Ed Norton in the movie The score!

    • @StillProtesting
      @StillProtesting 3 месяца назад

      @@JamieElison Well, I could twist every word you say to make a negative too, but I'm not a negative person like you are; never seeing anything positive.
      What a grand way to live your life.

  • @isaacnkosi548
    @isaacnkosi548 3 месяца назад

    You know that God wasnt investigating anything..yet you want to impress in peoples mind that when he asked "adam where are you" he was investigating .and if your inveztigative doctrine is based on such accout then it is baseless..

  • @isaacnkosi548
    @isaacnkosi548 3 месяца назад

    You say going to be judged by God is a pleasure?? Well it is not! Asked David!
    1chron21:7-17...although he chose to fall into the hands of God he was not spared any trouble for his wrong actions,v 70000 men died and that is how God judges ..read peter again he doesnt give the idea that that the judgment in the house of God is something that is void of pain and trouble yet he wonders how severe is it going to be with those who did not accept the gospel..because Gods judgment is a refining fire ..and all will be salted with the fire of God..

  • @JamieElison
    @JamieElison 3 месяца назад

    What you're saying is God is not God!

  • @holdthewinds
    @holdthewinds 3 месяца назад

    😡😡😡😡😡😡

  • @JamieElison
    @JamieElison 3 месяца назад

    According to SDA God has to have an investigative judgment.. because they destroyed what he does at the cross. . Claiming the devil is doing the atonement.. Which creates the investigative judgment! but then that means God is not God !because He apparently doesn't know what the people did or what they're going to do!

    • @judithirizarry9952
      @judithirizarry9952 3 месяца назад

      My brother, the investigative judgement is not for God's benefit...it is for the benefit of man, the angels and unfallen worlds. The investigative judgement serves as a way to vindicate the righteous from Satan's claims who accuses God's people 'day and night'...
      Think of a trial in a courtroom. You have a judge, the accused, the accuser and a jury. At a trial it will be determined whether the accused is guilty or innocent. Evidence and documentation must be presented and examined in order to reach a verdict.
      The investigative judgement will be no different, except there will be no room for fraudulent representations, false accusations or evidence. The heavenly verdict will be fair, just, conclusive and final...and the guilty will ultimately admit their own guilt.
      Amen!!🙏🏻👍🏻

    • @JamieElison
      @JamieElison 3 месяца назад

      @@judithirizarry9952 all you said is Jesus is not God! You're being judged for rejecting Jesus Christ)!!!! that's what SDA does!

    • @judithirizarry9952
      @judithirizarry9952 3 месяца назад

      @@JamieElison Sorry, your missing the whole point. Never said Jesus is not God, while you're also ignoring God's holiness, His justice and love for all (mankind/humanity, His sinless angels and other sinless worlds).
      Please try to study, in depth, God's Word... 🙏🏻

    • @JamieElison
      @JamieElison 3 месяца назад

      @@judithirizarry9952 I know what you believe !
      you don't even know what you believe.. What you're saying is not in the Bible.! There is no judgment for saints!
      (Except for rewards) they're not being judged for any sin and it's got nothing to do with anything other than whether or not you've accepted Jesus Christ.! ..SDA has never accepted Jesus Christ !that is their confession of Faith the devil does their atonement! Did you say sinless worlds... Where is that in the Bible?. I can see why your SDA.

    • @judithirizarry9952
      @judithirizarry9952 3 месяца назад

      @@JamieElison obviously you didn't hear a thing of what was being said in this podcast...as bible verses were quoted as proof that the issue of an investigative judgement does exist and is talked about in the Bible. If you don't understand bible scripture, I suggest you study further...