Ruger Precision Rimfire with ER Shaw Match Barrel vs 10/22 Accuracy Comparison
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- ***************YES I KNOW 1/2 INCH AT 50 YARDS IS MOA FOR 22******************************
Quick accuracy comparison between my ruger precision rimfire and my 10/22. Both have ER shaw barrels. RPRF all factory parts other than barrel, 10/22 only factory part on it is the stock receiver. Both have diamondback tactical FFP scopes. All groups shot at 50 yards. NO STINGERS WERE SHOT DURING THE FILMING OF THIS VIDEO.
EDIT: Since sent both of these barrels back. the barrel in the RPRF would cut huge chunks out of the rounds due to the chamber being so sharp and wouldn't eject CCI std vel spent casings at all. Changed back to the factory barrel and all is well. Also sent the 10/22 barrel back because they're both awful. I changed the recoil spring to 10% increased power and it cycles CCI standard Velocity without issue.
Thanx for taking ALL the time, energy, and cash to do this. Learned a lot. I always loved shooting my 22’s. Purchased my first one in 1968!
thank YOU for watching. I enjoy doing it. 22 is probably my favorite thing to shoot.
How much did you give for your first .22 in 1968?
@@7come11two of course hard to remember but around 50$. It was a Winchester semiautomatic feed with a tube. I did love it!
@@johnemmons9087 I bought my first .22 rifle in 1975. It was a Marlin Glenfield bolt action. I bought it used from a guy for $15. I loved mine too!
@@7come11two now I have a marlin Olympic that I purchased new in the 90’s. Came with a match grade barrel. I just refurbished the whole thing. Looks and shoots really good. Nikon scope. Cut the stock and pinned it for adjustable cheek rest. Bipod. Made a rear monopod. Very tight groups at 100 yards.
Gotta love a guy that burns up ammo for our entertainment on his dime.
you just gotta, right?
And NO STINGERS!!!
I just bought a Lithgow la101 22lr. I used the Federal Auto Match to sight in the scope. On my third group of 5, I shot a .20 MOA at 50 yards. One hole. Since then, I tried Center-X, Midas +, Eley Match, SK Rifle Match, Federal HV Gold Medal and RWS R50. Most shot well, but not better than the 4 cents a round Federal. ( I just bout a case of it).
Thanks for the videos. You do a nice job on them.
thanks for watching! i know its not the most accurate out there but it sure does make it worth it for the price like you said. i was just out shooting this weekend we finally had a good day, had a chance to take it out to 400. shot pretty well, federal target drops about 64 MOA at that distance lol
"I don't care what 22plinkster has to
say about Green Tag ammo. He gets paid by CCI."🤣
Thank you for that comment!!!👍
lol its true tho!
Fun Fact: CCI Green Tag, Pistol Match, and Standard Vel. all come off the same production line. CCI just tests some rounds off of a particular lot and call it one of the three. It's basically all the same. Even the bullets and advertised velocities are the same.
Interesting, didn't know that. Thanks for the info
@@coreyd1474 No prob. BTW, have you considered reaming out the match chamber of the RPR to a Bentz chamber? Should help the feeding and extracting issues without hurting the accuracy too much. You seemed to have good luck with the Bentz chamber in the 10/22
@@defiantmopar na, IMO you shouldn't have to do THAT much work to a 300 dollar 22 barrel. i shimmed it and tried a few other things but it only got worse. i ended up sending both of these barrels back because they sucked so bad. lesson learned for buying shaw barrels.
they all do it that way. the lower the standard deviation per lot, the higher the grade.
Good to know that CCI standard is working well in a match chamber. CCI standard is my overall go to round and I've got a match barrel for my 457 coming in. Good info.
i shoot cci std vel through my vudoo all the time no problems. just to practice but still no issues
@@coreyd1474 Good to know. Vudoo's rock. If I wasn't such a tightwad.......
@@kentnay4044 yea well can tell you from way too much experience buy once cry once....... 10000%
Just an fyi, .5" at 50 yards is 1 MOA. 1" at 50 is 2 MOA, 2" at 200 is 1 MOA. SO on ans so forth.
your wrong group size your right moa is not group size
Donna Schmitt you clapped?
thanks for the info
I really enjoyed your video. It was packed with valuable information for me. I am building my own 10/22, and your video answered a lot of questions for me.
thank you, i'm glad it helped. i feel like i make videos that i would like to watch myself.
This channel deserves 300k easily!!!!!
thanks.....
Better comparison would be stock precision rimfire versus 10/22 stock target model.
Yeah this is ridiculousness with the barrel upgrade. He should have compared the old barrel to the new one.
so ridiculous
@@salcidojosiah 🤡
@@coreyd1474 Not as ridiculous as your mom. 🤡
Ammo preference is inherent in every gun, even more so in 22LR... I've been lucky in that 4 out of 6 target style rifles I own, absolutely love the old 80s Federal Lightning (the cheapest rounds ever sold)... I still have over 50 bricks left that were bought for $9.99/brick (a few on sale for $8.99)...
thanks for watching
I’m a fan of Lapua rimfire ammo in my Ruger Precision rimfire rifle. I have found that the Lapua Pistol ammo works the best by far! Give this one a try. You won’t be disappointed. Thanks
yea the lapua stuff is normally as good as it gets. once you start getting in to the real expensive stuff like xact you need a specific rifle to shoot it well. but cx is always a good bet.
Pistol has a faster burning powder and tends to be more consistent in longer barrels. Biathlon ammo ,intended consistent cold weather shooting, is another one to try.
Perhaps I'm wrong, but it's my understanding that sub-moa at 50 yards is less than one-half inch, not one inch as you seem to think.
i measure everything with the ballistic-x app. so i dunno i hear a lot of people talking about what you just said but i guess i don't know.
You are correct, at 50 yards MOA would be slightly less than .50". A 1" group at 50 yards would be 2 MOA.
@@220swift7 well if you all are shooting .5 groups at 50 consistently then you should be on tv because that's good shooting
@@coreyd1474 I didn't say I could do that! lol Just pointing out what minute of angle is. I wasn't meaning to bust your nuts or anything.
As you did, I shot many different brands of ammo through both my Ruger Precision Rimfire and my Ruger American Rimfire rifles. A boresnake was used between different ammo brands and types. My guns fared best with Norma Match and Norma TAC22 ammo. Very best was a 8/10" group at 100 yds with the factory barrel. Keep working, true sub-moa is possible.
I agree, videos showing a guy shooting groups are boring and a waste of time.
Another just plain great video. I watched your ammo comparison parts 1 and 2 about 10 times so far. This one is right on target too. Thank you Corey. Anyway, I get similar results to you with various ammo thru my 10/22 with the factory stainless pencil barrel. I shoot mostly off-hand, and like the light weight. My 10/22 cycles any ammo I throw at it - no I didn't try CCI Quiets. I do shoot Stingers now and then. Keep up the great work Corey - no music, no b.s., just useful information.
thanks for watching. i feel like i make videos i would like to watch. no douchy intro music or some stupid compilation of some ass hole's drive in to the range. just results.
Nice video! I like the format with targets. in my own experience, some ammo needs at least 25 rounds of fouling before u get correct groupings.
yea agree. 22 takes a ton of fowling before it zeros itself out. i just didn't have enough time or ammo do that
I just bought the RPR. I have not even shot it and have already put the Shaw 20" on it which was the plan from the start. The fit on my barrel is snug but not tight and in fact just like the factory barrel. I did notice that before I installed the barrel I fitted some round into the chamber and the 40 grain bulk ammos were tighter in the barrel to the point that I wouldnt push them in. The 36 grain could not only go all the way in but I could get them out with ease. Im looking forward to shooting it this week. Great video! I do like to watch people shoot but your choice to show the targets was great because of how you had it organized.
when you say couldn't get them all in, do you mean the rifle wouldn't go in to battery? or it just wasn't pressing the bullet against the lands and grooves? after all the experiences i've had with prefit barrels have been nothing but negative i am not a fan.
@1474 I mean that the 40gr were pressing against the land and grooves. The 36gr Federals I could put in, all the way, and eject them without pulling the lead out of the bullet. I have shot it since then. I havent shot any high dollar rounds through it yet. I shot Aguila, Federal, CCI Blazer, Rem Thunderbolt, Rem Golden boy, Wolf match, and some 40yr old Winchester Wildcat. It shot them all good except the rem gold boy. By good I mean less than MOA. I'm sure that it would probably do 1/2 MOA with good ammo. Some of the bullets went through the same hole so many times I thought I was missing the target. All this was at 50yds. I'm going to try 100 this next week. I also have some CCI standard and Norma tac coming in to try.
Excellent video. Learned a few things and it's much appreciated.
thank you! glad it helped. i was just touching the tip of the iceberg when i made these early videos so i had a lot of learning to do myself.
I may have missed it, but is this at 100 yards? If at 50 yards a 1 inch group is 2 M.O.A. Yeah, I just watched the beginning again. You're only at 50- so ..........2 MOA dude.
yea, neither one of these shoot very well. sending the 10/22 barrel back and replacing it will a KIDD barrel. not sure what i'm going to do about the rprf. probably put the factory barrel back on. lesson learned. still fun to shoot though
@@coreyd1474 I built up my recoil lug on my RPR with a strip of aluminum duct tape and reseated it in the chassis. Ever since, my RPR has been shooting at or under MOA at 50yds. I also tightened up the barrel which was loose from the factory. Also, I shoot predominantly subsonic ammo because it shoots it way better. Federal supressor black box, Aguila subsonic 40gr, and CCI subsonic. PMC Moderator shoots best over all
@@coreyd1474 Hey Corey
Some of your comments in the video make me question your grasp of barrel harmonics: on a center fire rifle, you would load a bunch of different velocities and find an antinode, but of course 22LR doesn't give us this option. Just because one type of ammo has never shot well in your rifle doesn't mean it won't in a future rifle. What you need is a chronograph (you didn't note velocity on any of your tests so I've jumped to the conclusion that you don't have one): if a particular type of ammo is throwing inconsistent velocities, then ya it's an ammo problem (some of my bulk ammo has very roughly formed bullets which is basically 'the other problem' you can have with ammo) but otherwise, it's simply the fact that you're gun doesn't have a harmonic antinode at that velocity.
Another way to do it is to find the most consistent ammo you can afford, and then put a tuner on the barrel (why does everyone assume the threaded barrel on these guys is for a supressor?!*#%!) to match the barrel harmonic to the ammo. Hope this helps you tighten up your groups.
Corey D Hes not talking criticizing your accuracy hes talking about the fact that you keep calling 2 moa groups 1 moa groups.
@@SourPatchPuss moa stands for minutes of angle nothing to do with group size
Aquila was always hit and miss with whatever I tried it in. It would shoot really tight groups but would throw fliers every 10 rounds or so. Every box, every batch, every gun. I don't know what the issue was but they always did it. They burn dirty too, lots more fouling and unburnt powder. Which is no big deal if they shot well. I want to love them but they just don't have the consistency down.
and you forgot to add you can always smell when someone is shooting aquila. no matter how poorly it shoots it always smells the best lol
@@coreyd1474 You are right, they do have a distinct smell. The WD40 of rimfire ammunition, haha.
@@TheKajunkat its refreshing
FYI for those who like to tinker with their 10/22's.......
I "assembled" a 10/22 with the Ruger OEM receiver, OEM bolt, BX trigger, Magnum Research 17' carbon fiber barrel and Bell and Carlson anschutz stock. At 50 yards I can put all 26 rounds out of my steel lips mag within the diameter of a dime with Remington gold bullet hollow points. I get the feeling I just got lucky with this combination.
I also have a Kidd 10/22 with the 18" lightweight barrel and VictorCo Titan22 stock that actually shoots the gold bullets a little BETTER.
both of these barrels were such trash i ended up sending them back for a refund. lesson learned stick with what you know....kidd
I actually live about 10 miles from Shaw. I don't own any of their products, but I know several people that do. I wouldn't really call them precision.
As far as the 10/22 goes, the magnum research and kidd barrels are amazeballs.
I almost went with a proof research barrel on the kidd, but I ultimately decided to make it 100% kidd. I guess I'll just have to build another one.......
Great review. Very objective and informative. Thank you.
Thank you for watching!
Have exact set up for both rifles. I agree with the Shaw on the RPR. The stock barrel is fine. But for the 10/22 I love that Shaw. Also have a Kidd 18” fluted SS that I think is a touch more accurate but idk
i think kidd makes some really good stuff. but the price reflects it for sure.
I have the same feeding and extraction issues with my ER Shaw barrel. Honestly, I am not at all sure it was worth the money or any more accurate than the factory barrel. I may put my factory tube back on.
they're both trash. i ended sending both of them back. the rprf barrel got to the point it wouldn't extract any rounds so i put the factory barrel back in. 10/22 i went with a summit precision barrel. not much better.
Great video. I can only go out to 100. The best round for me at 50 and 100 is CCI Suppressor. At 100 yards, If I'm doing everything right, I can a hole the size of a dime. With a 25x scope, I can watch the rounds flying through the air, come into focus and hit the target. Standard velocity is a close second. Some rounds that shoot well at 100, suck at 50. Some rounds do amazing at 50 but lose accuracy at 50.
It is pretty neat watching the rounds fly and seeing how spin drift affects a 22 at about 200 yards
Nice job Corey.
However, at approximately 16:51 you state .98 group is under moa?
One MOA at 50yds is .50, so a .98 group is actually almost two moa at 50yds.
Other than that, very interesting, and informative vid.👍
thanks for watching!
Thanks again...it’s difficult to know whether a new trigger pack, new barrel, etc is worth the price. This helps.
for the 10/22 a new trigger is a MUST. barrel eh depends on how much you wanna spend really but for sure a trigger.
Love to see a video of the 3 and 400 yard shots you were talking about,,, my standard 40 year old 10/22 will put wolf brand thu same hole over and over at 50’ other ammo runs 1 and 2 inch spread
well unfortunately that will never happen. both of these barrels were such trash i sent them back and put the factory barrel back in the rprf (which i've since sold.) I went with a summit precision barrel for the 10/22. its ok, nothing special just looks cool since its carbon. i never shoot it anyway.
1 inch at 50 yards is 2 moa.
Thank god someone pointed it out.
wow so smart. No one knew that
Try CCI 36gr HP varmit rounds out of that 10/22. I have the same setup with Magpul stock and tested 7 different rounds, and those came in at easy sub-moa
do you know anything about shooting
@@stratelite1337 lol. You don't know what you are talking about. At what point did he say a 1 inch group is 1 moa at 50yds? His app measures the group size, and figures moa, and he wrote it on the paper. So, that means his groups are half the size of what you are assuming they are
1 inch at 50 yards is 2 moa. Nice guns, I like that ruger precision
I'm not sure why this is but all .22 rimfire's moa is measured at 50 yards, not exactly sure why or if that is true of all rimfires but it is what it is
thanks for watching!
Was the old RPR barrel 18” long? If the Shaw barrel is 20”, that’s why you have increased speed. Same reason the RPR is faster than the 10-22. 2” longer barrel.
yea the factory barrel on the rprf is 18"
I though 22LR starts to slow after 18 inches.
Thats a shame it doesnt like to extract the cci standard velocity. That was by far the most accurate ammo and its very affordable. I was thinking about upgrading my barrel but i dont want to have an exctraction problem. Thanks for the video
well i'd take this with a grain of salt. i didn't use any gunsmithing tools so i'm sure with proper head spacing and go/no go gauges you will have better luck.
Good videos man. It’s pretty funny how many guys are setting up the Diamondback Tac, because it makes sense for the $ and performance expected on the Ruger Precision right?
Only thing I can add, and it’s a big one, is that every rifle is different and production line types WILL have variations to Ogive/headspace which WILL determine poor, good, or great performance. If people are utilizing .22 to enter the precision niche, get to know the value of understanding not only ballistics but also how rifle construction around ballistics is equally important. Thanks again, and appreciate the time and $ you spent on all the different ammo to help gain a starting point. 🍻
yea i mean for the entry level shooter on a budget this set up is basically ideal. just shoot CX through everything and not worry about it lol
LOVE the Ruger Precision Rimfire platform, got mine in .17 HRM and it's just the little baby rimfire / cheap version of a .300 PRC or something... flat as hell, really predictable and reliable, just overall FUN to shoot. Of all the guns I have, it's kinda strange to say that my I am BY FAR the most confident when I pick up my .17 HMR RPR. When you factor in the cost (it's many times cheaper than the rest of my guns) it's just a no-brainer. If you all have a few hundred bucks burning a hole in your pocket - buy one of these. You won't be disappointed (likewise, if you haven't fired .17 HMR before, DO IT!)
yea 17 is a fun caliber for sure. only down side is its right on the edge for having to wear hearing protection and there isn't many options for ammo out there.
@@coreyd1474 It's loud for sure, but usually downrange due to its ballistics and the round itself breaking the sound barrier. I do wear ear protection with it... however as far as availability goes, I've never had any issues. I got a Federal black pack of 250 rds for $38 at a gun show recently (.17 at a gun show?!)
They're bolt action obviously, so you don't exactly eat them up.
I agree that Green Tag is not that great, to put it nicely. Some of those speeds you mention are likely to be an issue going further out. 1126 is the point where things go sonic and that shift back does negative things to our accuracy. I've got a Shaw on my 10-22 as well and CCI SV is what I enjoy shooting the most and few higher dollar ammos do as well, or better, to include that Green Tag. SK Long Range Match is an ammo worth considering. SK Long Range Match is the only thing that consistently shoots a bit smaller groups through my .22s to the point where it is statistically significant. I have found 10lb for the action screw works best on my 10-22.
anyone that shoots "long range" 22lr knows that the transonic phase is just a myth. there is no real data to prove it has any negative effect on accuracy and in fact its just there opposite. all the data suggest there is NO destabilization. stop listening to the fudds.
Isn’t 1moa at 50 yards 1/2”?
Yes, approximately.
Yeah most of these groups were 2moa+
Some guns will shoot tiny groups at fifty yards but moving back to 100 sees the groups open up to two MOA or more.
Yeah, or 1" @ 100yards. MOA is MOA.
@@larryfoster2227 the comment is from at some point in the video he misspoke and I think he called 1" at 50 moa
I've never had very good accuracy with stingers anyway
Well then you should try Stangers! J/K
thanks for watching
I don’t like the other Federal ammo I’ve tried, however willing to try the white box… looks like a good value too.
its always worked really well for me when you consider accuracy/price/availability. i still get a box or two when i see it at the walmart.
I sounds like the headspace on you Shaw barrel is to small. Headspace on a 22 is the gap from the bolt face to the back of the chamber where the cartridge rim rests. The acceptable range of this gap is .042" to .049". You could get more head space by making a washer out of shim stock that is 0.001, 0.002 or 0.005 inches thick The washer would fit over the treads on the barrel and when you reinstall it in the receiver you will get more head space. Did you check the headspace when you installed the barrel. “Go” and “No-Go” gauges are used to accurately checking chamber length. You could also check with a gunsmith about adjusting the headspace. Right now you are trying to wear down the side of the bolt handle to get more head space.
yea just a quick search for a go no go gauge for a 22 no way in hell i'm spending 50 bucks for that. may give it a small shim or something.
Never watched your videos before but momma always said you can trust a man in camo crocs haha great video and great info!
the more crocs the merrier i always say.
My ER SHAW 18" tapered 10/22 barrel with stock trigger group BSA Sweet .22 3-9 X40 scope it shoots the 32 Grain CCI Stinger HP at .75 max but .45 & .55 . .35 these sub moa Groups at 50 yards I like the accuracy at 50 yards cant ask much for a $70 dollar scope and a $99 barrel .
no it doesnt
good . about time some one knows what accuracy is. 50 --- 100 yard bench rest, it takes a good rifle and good 22 lr rounds to play the game. Thank you
Go with kidd if you're looking for accuracy
I built up my recoil lug on my RPR with a strip of aluminum duct tape and reseated it in the chassis. Ever since, my RPR has been shooting at or under MOA at 50yds. I also tightened up the barrel which was loose from the factory. Also, I shoot predominantly subsonic ammo because it shoots it way better. Federal supressor black box, Aguila subsonic 40gr, and CCI subsonic. PMC Moderator shoots best over all
i actually did the same with the recoil lug on this one as well but it actually made it shoot worse. i've since returned both of these barrels they were both absolute trash.
Corey D It’s terrible that ruger markets this rifle a precision rifle. Even worse, the damn 30moa rail on top. It’s like one engineer expected it to be a long range Rimfire, but no one mentioned that to the engineer who designed the barrel.
@@Warthog71 LOL yea i mean i think the price should be lower and the precision distinction removed for sure. its just marketed as a trainer for the RPR. although i will say i can hit a 12x20 silhouette somewhat consistently with it at 400 yards. maybe 2/10 or 3/10. Ive got an "in stock" notification for the cz457 precision trainer. This thing is just too wildly inconsistent.
Corey D that CZ is something I can’t wait to see you review. My AR22 16”inch and my AR22 7.5”shoot as good, and in some cases, more consistent.
Volquardsen makes a barrel with the 1:9 twist. Thinking of doing a 10/22 build to shut up all those stinger dingers!
@@Warthog71 Probably a while before they're back in stock. After i sent that kidd barrel back (for the 10/22) i put a summit carbon barrel on it and it wasn't much better. Lesson learned, go with some proven like shilen, kidd, or volquartzen.
Thanks for your time and effort, great videos.
Thank you for watching!
Suuuuuuuper informative episode man!!!! Great channel!!! Thank you so much!!!
i try to make videos like i would like to see. no fudd music, just guns and results.
@@coreyd1474 Thank you again for the helpful information!!👏👏👏
@@stevofoo absolutely! thanks for watching as always.
I only use Stingers in my MP 15-22 pistol cause it's fun with a little more pop. Thanks for video!
yea definitely helps eliminate some of the cycling issues.
@@coreyd1474 I guess, I missed it, but what is the issue with stingers? I mostly shoot off hand, so I am definitely not shooting as accurately as you. just dont want to mess up my barrel. I am running a CF Volquartsen barrel on a 10/22 takedown
@@bennickerson9581 the case is a little longer on the stingers so if you have a true match chamber they won't fit. however the ruger does NOT have a true match chamber. people just like to complain on the internet.
Great video. I also have that Ruger bolt gun. My only question would be. You keep saying 1.0 and under groups are MOA or sub MOA. If you are shooting at 50 yards, wouldn't MOA and under be .5" and under?
if you'd looked at the first line in the video description you'd answer your own question.
Good video only complaint would be hold phone/camera steady. And don’t worry about stingers. Never found them really accurate. Fun to shoot if you’re not looking for accuracy.
yea i didn't really have a way to hold my phone until a few videos after this. don't say stingers people on the internet will get mad at you LOL
I have watched some of your videos and I would like to thank you for not showing you shooting just give me the results - THE IMPORTANT STUFF! Keep them coming Thank you
i like to think i make videos that i would like to watch. thanks for watching!
Good job on the Target Charts...good info. Thanks.
thank you for watching!
Thanks for the review. I picked up a Ruger yesterday and have a lot of 22LR I can shoot while I await the larger caliber ammo to come down in price and become more available. You showed upgrading to a match barrel is only marginally better so I won't waste my money.
absolutely don't waste the time money or energy. upgrading barrel/trigger so on at that point you misewell make one step up and go with the bergara b14r. keep the factory barrel unless its absolutely awful.
Just saw this really liked dont worry about stingers.
people get real worked up about stingers lol
Thanks for another great review. Succinct, down to earth, covers a lot of ground. I don't usually hear about 10/22s being ammo finicky even bone stock, though sometimes I hear about one needing a new or premium extractor. It might be worth poking around in the receiver looking for anything rough, high spot, or rubbing. I'm guessing you've got the Kidd extractor as part of the bolt. Did you get the Kidd guide rod? Mine runs flawlessly anything but the worst bulk with squibs. And the new Sellier & Bellot Club. Maybe it was the nose shape on that ammo. I'm using the Feddersen receiver and Kidd internals.
thanks for watching. its been so long since i've done this video but i believe the problems for both is head spacing.
So other than the custom barrel custom trigger custom stock and bolt it’s just a 10/22!! Great testing buddy
Not much of a 10 22 other than the old ass receiver lol
Hello again! In Ohio myself. Liked your presentation on the comparison in ammo. I just sold my 10/22 and bought the RPR. My 10/22 placed rounds about like yours, hoping to get better results from the RPR with SK Biathlon. Would like hear what you think if you try this ammo through your RPR. It is a popular round where I shoot matches.
wouldn't mind trying it at some point, i know its pretty pricey
Loving your videos especially because I have the same rifle. Keep them coming. Straight to the point and full of juicy details.
thanks for watching! i appreciate the feed back.
Great video for me, I am devouring info for my rack of an RPR in rimfire, one in WMR, and 6.2CM. Here in upstate NY my range is covered with the white stuff, so all this info is GREAT! Thanks!
Glad i could help! thanks for watching
Didnt know .22s shot like crap! Have to agree with Alex Thomas about the HMR .17. Ill spend my money on it now that Ive seen what fancy ammo costs and get better results. Thanks for your testing. What an eye opener! Sorta disappointing too. I do have 2 boxes of the Federal ammo that seems to shoot well for you. Have to see how it likes my 10/22.
i like 17 for sure but it has a few down sides. There isn't a huge variety of ammo to try so if it doesn't shoot well with a certain brand your kind of screwed and its almost to the point you need hearing pro. but other than that .17 is great, all of the ones i've had shot well.
Corey: Nice job on the video. I am an old dude, I have not shot match for about 50 years and a lot has changed. I have one comment regarding your choice of barrel, if I understand what you said correctly, "why would anyone purchase a barrel which a live round could not be ejected?"
Maybe I am not understanding something, but that sounds like a really unsafe choice. Please comment. (note: not as unsafe as the dude I saw placing his barrel down in the grass,...)
the round doesn't extract because with the "match" chamber it jams the round against the lands and grooves. its annoying if i'm honest
@@coreyd1474 thx for responding, so what then do you do? The round must be discharged?, I cannot imagine trying to push it out thru the muzzle. Wow.
annoying is an understatement. cheers and thx again.
@@mr1enrollment no need to say thank you! i think people with small channels that don't reply are dick heads. to be 10000% honest with you i only ever just tested it, i never actually had the need to eject a live round. i guess you just shoot it i don't know, fire it at your neighbors house LOL
Dam I would be mad if I spent that much money on barrels and those are the groups I got but nice looking rigs
right!
Making me sea sick with the camera movement!
take some Dramamine
@@coreyd1474 I did but fell asleep! LOL
@@kimshaw9594 right lol
😊 thanks good entertainment...find a round that gives you a small standard deviation and then spend $15 and buy a limb saver barrel tuner and try that… Every barrel is different because of the chambering and resonance.your best round in your RPR will not shoot good in the guy who’s shooting beside you RPR. There is also a trick with aluminum tape to bed the recoil lug in your RPR. I have a 452 that is about seven or eight years old and other than the first two days it has never fired anything other than SK standard… Because it works and I just don’t change brands once I find something that works.Struggling is learning… The more you learn the less you struggle!
you know i actually tried to aluminum bed the rprf and it made it shoot worse for whatever reason lol. 22 is a different animal for sure!
@@coreyd1474 ...my grandson has the RPRF and I played with it for a long time before it started to shoot consistently...the target rifles i use have tuners machined into the barrel. I use lead only bullets under 1100 ft/sec, clean only with a dry swab, use the limbsaver, and i sort the ammo by rim thickness...alot of extra work but I do shoot very good groups on occasion. I am 70 now so the groups aren't what they used to be....but I did manage to get a couple of groupings under 1/4" at 100M this year...I have access to a 100M indoor/underground range once a week and I impressed all my buddies with how well the ruger is shooting. Because of the inconsistent nature of the ammo that is the biggest battle...Hope all goes well and keep us updated!
Harmonics are EVERYTHING look at structured barrels 0 poi shift with any ammo
I like the 10/22 better looking groups
good looking gun
This video was exactly what I was looking for.
Glad I could help. Full disclosure both of these barrels were trash and I sent both of them back. Put the factory barrel back in the rprf and it was much better
@@coreyd1474 yeah, I looked on their website, and wasn't very impressed. Plus, I like my RPRim just the way it is as well.
@@ForceMultiplier yea man i just got greedy and figured there was more to squeeze out of it but i was wrong. if it shoots well just leave it. I've got a summit precision barrel on the 10/22 now. its very ok but its carbon and looks cool lol
@@ForceMultiplier i can tell you that my rprf shoots a billion times better than my cz457 though
@@coreyd1474 you wont find many folks opening saying this, which I find bizarre. Ruger has done a very good job in the 22lr category with their new rim offering. I've got nothing but positive feedback for people.
Dude you got a lemon of your avg group was 1.49 with your stock barrel..my rprr shoots .20-.30 all day long at 50 yards..get yourself some decent ammo. Buy yourself some cci mini mags for the 1022..mine with a ksa heavy target barrel shoots awesome groups with them and aguila hv
thanks for watching!
Hi again, Corey!...I have to ask you: Is the Bergara .22 bolt with their carbon barrel still your favorite, or most accurate, .22 bolt gun? (I remember how you raved about it's accuracy in your video a while back...)
Or.... do you have a new fav?
Are you planning on reviewing a Vudoo .22? I know they are damn pricey...😳
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Dakota Dunes, SD
Yes it sure it. so far i've got about 10k plus rounds through it with zero FTE. I did end up replacing the trigger though i put a triggertech in it.
That er shaw barrel looks really good but knowing you have trouble with certain ammo extracting will keep me away from it...im not a money shooter I just like accurate rifles and the standard barrel will be fine for thumping squirrels and the occasional local match.
when i was doing these early videos i wasn't as knowledgeable as i am now with headspacing and all that so that could be a part of it. its not just plug and play with these barrels.
@@coreyd1474 I was just looking at some different barrels and they all said no gun Smith needed, im sure its easy enough to change the barrel, but I know nothing about head spacing so I would end up having a Smith do that anyway. So if I change the barrel I will buy what I want to use and take it all to my Smith and let him work his gun magic so it works like it should... he has actually been to a few different schools and has all the proper tools to do it correctly the first time. I would end up messing something up.
@@tufftrucker40 you can do it yourself you just need go/no go gauges and an the proper torque wrenches and action wrenches.
@@coreyd1474 I don't want to buy all that stuff..just easier to use my gun smith
To bad the Wolf didn't shoot well in your gun. I just got some Wolf about 4 months ago, shooting them out of my 10/22 compact and getting 1/2inch groups at 50yrds. Picked up 10 more boxes. my 10/22 lover them !!! My other .22 not so good. Good vid!
neither of my 2 new 22s shoot wolf well either. kinda strange
0.5 inches at 50 yards IS 1 MOA. 1 MOA = 1 inch at 100 yards, so 1/2 inch at 50 yards is 1 MOA. 2 inches at 200 yards is also 1 MOA. I would guess its a limitation on the ammo or the shooter, not the gun.
Genius!
I do, I enjoy the shooting foremost and add the talking before or after both are needed, but I DON'T like talking about it, "I put this scope and mount on my rifle!"
thanks for watching
@@coreyd1474 Here is why I like watching you or others shooting, "are they keeping contact with the rifle's stock." Pursuit of Accuracy, I'm a big fan! Talking boring!
Yeah. I'm not sure you have your terminology on MOA but thanx for info bro!👍
thanks for watching
Moa on 22 rimfires is measured at 50 yards for whatever reason
Another great video Corey, after watching the Bergara review I went back to see if a semi auto will ever shoot with a bolt gun. I have a Ruger Competition 10/22 that has done well with the KYL targets (my own targets...lol) and I’m looking to upgrade. I already have a Bergara HMR B14 in 308 so I know the quality of their guns but I also have a Volquartsen LLV 22 pistol which makes me look like a much better shot than I really am. My question is, would a top quality semi auto ever shoot with an equal quality bolt gun? I’ve watched enough competitions to see with a 60 second time limit a semi auto has an advantage if it can keep up with the accuracy of a bolt action. Thanks again for all the info.
i think there are a few semi autos that will shoot well BUT the issue you run into with them is reliability. sure you can clear a stage faster WHEN it runs well, until you get that misfeed and you spend 20 seconds clearing a stove pipe or whatever. my b14r had zero issues what so ever.
Good point on the reliability and also the bolt action shoots much cleaner. I did find a B14r at a good price yesterday and rather than choose which one I’m more apt to own both😂 Thanks for the info and the videos.
@@lutherprice637 ESPECIALLY in the winter time when its as cold as it is here if they have any oil on them what so ever they really have issues. i just sold my b14r and i'm kinda kicking myself for it.
You’ll get over that😂 and you still have your Tika. I need to move a few to make room especially if I can find the B14r in 17hmr. I’m going to the gun store to make arrangements for shipping today, just like Christmas.
@@lutherprice637 i'd love to have a b14 in 17. i moved all my 22s to build a rimx which is what i'm currently running but its not performing well. proof barrel.
I have set my RPR with same scope and barrel; I am shooting sub-MOA groups with all kinds of ammo, one-hole groups with good ammo. Where did you get your sunshade?
did you have to shim it at all? mine got to the point where it wouldn't extract any rounds of any type and obviously you can see the accuracy was lacking. the sunshade came with the scope.
I got my 10/22 Percision rifle i shot just about every 22 shells really good. The best out of them was Sk 22 I’m going with . Do you shot trap ?
the RPRF shot SK rifle match pretty well i'm probably going to get some more at some point and run it through the 10/22. I use to i haven't for a while. now i just mostly shoot clays in the back yard.
Thank you for the video.Do you shoot at thunder valley? I had a cz 455, I had to sell it. I’m back in the market, I’m looking at a cz457,Savage b22 precisión,and Rprr. My cz loved the ely,Sk,and federal target. It would not shoot cci or federal gold match.
Thanks for watching. no i have not been to thunder valley yet but i definitely would like to. i have a b22 i will be doing a video on shorty. take a look at tikka t1x mtr. best of all in that price point IMO.
Thank you for the info , well done is there any other barrel available for the Ruger PR since you did the video.
thank you for watching! you know to be honest i'm not really sure i haven't looked at them probably since i made this video. it wouldn't surprise me though since its such a popular rifle. when i go to nrl/prs matches there is probably more rprf's than any other type of rifle there.
@@coreyd1474 thank so much for the quick response. I just purchased the rifle and I had no time to shoot it and a little nervous if it doesn't shoot.
@@giovannim5101 haven't seen anyone complaining about accuracy so I'm sure it'll be fine. Their biggest issue was extraction but I think they've fixed it.
My Fedderson barrel loves Federal target as well.
Also the Aguila Super Xtra shoots well.
i haven't looked for it lately, have you?
I get the big surprise with the Fed Auto Match. Same kinda deal. Was scopein my Savage FV-SR, bout 5 different brands & the durn Auto Match did better. I like Aguila stuff too but the shocker was Auto Match. Go figure.....
i mean its cheap and you can get it any where so its a win win lol
Say Corey....what happened to your CZ 457.? Dump it or keep it ? I'm a big .22 fan and like the way you get right to your targets. Some shooting the gun is ok, but most vids are just too much. Second time thru this vid. You do your barrel acclamation shots then get to groups. Correct. Keep doin your ammo testing. We luv that oit here. Rimfire Central raves about the RPRR. Thanks again.... ✌
Dumped the cz brother it was just bad or a lemon but the rprf shoots circles around it! Thanks for the feedback man much appreciated
Corey D Contrary to opinions, CZ has produced some lemons just like everyone else. I had a 452 that absolutely would not shoot any ammo accurately. I sent it back to CZ and the service rep said they had issues with the 452 platform and sent me a new rifle. It shot better but it was nothing to brag about. Other CZs that I own shoot very well. Anyone can produce a turd from time to time.
Does the Precision Rimfire have the 30MOA rail? What height rings are needed with the diamonback tactical 6-24?
i think its 20 moa but i'd have to look up the specs. the rings were in the ballpark of 1.12"
Should slap a kidd or fedderson barrel on that 1022. Plus get the spike for that titan
yea i think kidd is the way to go.
Crocs 4 life
its not a choice its a lifestyle
Don't need to spend all that money....
Green mountain barrel, any thumb hole or grip stock, bx trigger, optical for 22 with adjustable grain turrets BSA sweet 22 sniper, bi pod or sand bags.....and you will shoot the bullseye out of the target at 50 yds. Want a hundred yard tight group.....mess with the ammo side.
I own 4 different styles and been shooting the 10/22 for over 40 yrs👍😁
LOL whatever you say
Have you used Kidd barrels? Interested to know how they compare to ER Shaw on the 10/22.
no i have not. but i'm sure they're just as good.
Just replaced a Shaw heavy target barrel with a Kidd on my 10/22. The Shaw’s normal was 1” to 1-1/4” groups at 50 yards with Lapua Center-X. Completely unsatisfactory for KYL competition. The Kidd barrel, after about 500 rounds, has group sizes half the Shaw’s, with Eley Target, a much less expensive round.
@@haroldcook2146 interesting. I saw where proof has one now but not interested in paying 400 bucks for a 22 barrel LOL I may switch myself a lot of people don't have good stuff to say about shaw
I got one on a 10/22. One ragged hole at 50yds. CCI standard
13:41 I recently sold my remaining Green Tag for 1/2 price just to get it gone. CCi really ticked me off with that waste of money. I can understand an ammo not liking one barrel compared to another but when an ammo *costs $20/100 + tax* but does poorly in everything, I probably won't buy from that company again for several years.
yea its never really shot well out of any of my 22s. just stick with standard velocity.
@@coreyd1474 Ya' gotta love those *_Federal Target Match_*
Have you tried the blue box aguila extra? It’s the same load and 40 grain but with a lead bullet. It has shot surprisingly well.
i'm not sure. tried a few types of aquila but its been a while.
Thank you for the content, what rings are you using on the ruger precision rig?
on both guns they're the cheap vortex rings, i think they call them tactical.
@@coreyd1474 thank you sir, do you recall the height, were you could still get the shade on ? (i.e. low, med high) Thanks again.
@@LCSRacing i BELIEVE the rings on the rprf are 1.18" and the rings on the 1022 are .83" both i could get the sunshade on. these rings are cheap i would recommend going to the pro series rings if you can.
i just did crazy groups at 100 this week end with a 597 heavy barrel 5 rounds , just with a cheap bipod and a ziploc of rice in my hand at the stock !!!
are your 22 lr both sub moa at 100 yards ?
no these aren't even sub moa at 50 yards
@@coreyd1474 i think my 597 is ...
with a good shooter , or a stand , i order a 50$ shooting stand ill try it this week end but , look pretty crazy precise for a 300$ gun , i dont understand why
Is 1/2 @50 yards = 1/2 moa or 1 moa? I was under the impression that moa is measured at 100yards?
lawd have mercy all these years later and you people are still commenting this LOL 1/2 inch at 50 yards is considered moa for 22
Are you measuring these center to center? Are you using software or calipers? I am looking at your 1.54" group where the wind kicked up and hard to imagine it's that big, there are 3 touching and 2 touching nearby a group like that on my paper is 3/4"
i find the best way for mass groups like this is just to measure with calipers, using software takes FORE EV ER. so i stopped lol
@@coreyd1474 Yes true, I do the same, except on some occasion. Anyway, I know this video was some time ago, did you figure out why you have such crazy jumps from 0.5" to nearly 2" groups with same ammo? If you're confident in your shooting and your rest is solid and it's not the wind, than something is going on with the rifle.
@@DimaProk if i had to guess the head spacing wasn't right. i was just getting in to "precision" 22ing and didn't do my due diligence. set at proper specs i'm sure they both would have been much better
Me and my buddy is buying one for hog hunting this hun is bad ass I can't wait
good luck
Did you say 5000 rounds through the presision? That barrel should not be showing accuracy problems. Have you tried lead and coper remover?
I think a lot of the problem was it wasn't properly head spaced. I was just getting in to precision 22 shooting then and didn't know much about it.
Good Job Son
thanks dad
...great review but average accuracy. 0.5" or less @50 yards (1MoA) for 5 rounds should be achievable in reasonable conditions with both those Rugers with those scopes, if you find a good ammo for those barrels..
i think it was a head space issue. this was before i was really involved in rimfire and what it takes to make one shoot well.
Thank for the video !!! Is it hard to install the new barrel on the RPRF ? Do i need a gunsmith or i can do it myself ? Thanks
you can do it yourself just no headspace gauges to make sure its torqued down properly.
@@coreyd1474 thanks
@@TexasCorgiGun you're welcome. good luck
@Corey D do you have the rear tang screw on the 10/22?
i do not
I never could understand why the American companies can’t compete with the German and European companies on making a accurate rim fire rifle out of the box. I know they did years ago but can’t do it now. Maybe Cooper or Vudoo I guess they r accurate but for 2500 to 3,000 dollars
yea i mean it would be nice to have a vudu but i don't have an extra 5k to build a 22 rifle lol
Guys--an "off-the-rack" Savage FV-SR will shoot like this with various brands of ammo. Mine certainly does. Less than $300 in the rifle and scope. A fifties era Winchester Model 52 shoots smaller groups out-of-the box. I have owned five Ruger 10-22s and all of them were jammamatics. Do any of them actually work??
no. not a single one of them is reliable no matter how expensive.
.22 rimfire guns--whether pistol or rifle--are subject to the ammunition all of us are forced to put up with to say nothing of the "personality of the individual firearm. Some shoot well with a brand of ammo which does not work well in other's guns. When you find ammunition which shoots ell in YOUR firearm--write down the "lot number" off the inside of the end flap on the box. Try to find this same lot number and purchase all you can afford. As long as you use this same lot number you can count on your groups.
All interaction is good acording to youtube so lets talk about stingers
knock yourself out
Hello! Question, looks like the sun shade is touching the hand guards, mine touches, any issues with accuracy?
its just very slightly off. but if it touches in reality it won't create issues but a lot of fudds will say it does. best to just avoid it if you can.
Thank you sir, thinking it should not affect anything since it is only touching rail and not the barrel, did you had any issues with the 30MOA rail?
Ummm $300 is not a bit for a replacement barrel.... My cz 457 was twice that....
Match chambers are designed for bit more than CCI or bulk ammo...
600 is nothing compared to my vudoo