Which Jaguar XKR Should You Buy | XKR 4.2 vs XKR 5.0 Comparison | Rivals Showdown
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- Опубликовано: 30 май 2024
- The Jaguar XK and XKR represent fantastic value on the used car market, not only because of their performance for the money, but in particular because of their cost of living, reliability and even fuel usage outperforming many of their key rivals.
Where things get really interesting though - is which XKR should you actually go for, with so many variants to choose from? Well let's dive into it by first tackling the biggest choice of them all when it comes to the aluminium body X150 shape model - XKR 4.2 or XKR 5.0?
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Having owned 20 Jaguars, from XK120, Mark X, XKE, 420, several XJ, S Type, XJS V12, to a 5.0 XK-R, I have broad experience with the marque. I tested the 4.2R but eventually purchased a 2012 R convertible (used).
I was a pro race driver in USA and Europe for 12 years and taught the Porsche, Ferrari and Jaguar racing schools. My views will probably vary from others here because of my background, so my apologies upfront.
The 4.2R is a delight to drive and seemed a bit more nimble, except for some understeer at higher speed cornering. The 5.0R definitely feels more stable cornering at speed and seems easier to drift and bring back quickly. The brakes are about equal, although the 5.0 is a bit heavier, but the balance is right on both.
There is a diff in acceleration with the 5.0 being much quicker off the line (torque) and continuity of the power band. For normal road driving, there is so little diff, few would notice.
The value is vastly different. Being a lifelong classic car collector (50+), I look at the XK-R as a potential classic with appreciating value in the coming years (I bought a 1965 XKE convert. for US$3,500 and sold it for $65,000; a Ferrari Daytona Spyder for US$70K and sold it for $750K, etc). As such, and as noted in the excellent video, low mileage R versions will increase more and the 'last of breed' will also bring more$$$. I've had mine for 8 years, never in the rain and only 15,000 miles on the clock - I will hold it for another 5 years and expect to see a good profit, more than the 4.2R. (I'll be 80 by then and probably driving an electric wheelchair!)
What a life! Wow! Thx for info btw.
You should post videos on your cars. Would love to see your collection
Thanks for the insights sir! Definitely see it's collectibility status even more now. It's been 2 years since your comment, anything to add?
I see you bought the convertible which I'm also eyeing. That's more niche but just as collectible? And how is the sound with the top down? Could you share any other not obvious insights, good or bad on the drop top?
I bought a 2006 XKR 4-2 just a few weeks ago.
If your thinking about buying one, stop thinking and get buying.
They are EPIC! I can’t stop looking at mine, can’t stop driving it. I take the longest possible route wherever I take it..
Get a cared for example and don’t worry too much about the mileage so long as it’s been looked after.
Do it now!!!
Absolutely
I’m hopefully trading in my car for an 08 kx60 4.2 tomorrow. Had a quick look at it today.
@@jonathangould1255 Hope you get your XK, I use mine nearly everyday, I don't think I'll ever get bored with it!
Good luck Jonathan, make it happen.
Comments after watching: Very interesting! I had missed the fact that your comparison is with XKR Coupes!
I will never pay for 'extra performance' once a minimum level has been reached - all XK's and XKR's reach that minimum level and I prefer convertibles (though I have owned a few coupes).
I've owned nine XK Jaguars since 1997 and when they announced their demise, I decided to buy the best I could find as a 'keeper'. I've owned X100 XK8's, XKR's, 4.0L, 4.2L, X150 XK's and XKR's DHC and Coupes.
In my opinion, the best of the lot is the facelift 5.0L XK - it has more than enough power, reasonable fuel economy and looks lovely - in an understated way.
I do regular long trips with petrolhead friends and their wives. Friends' cars have included: Aston V8 Vantage, DB9, 911's and Boxters (various), SL's (various), F-Type (6 cyl) and Maseratti Grandsport. My XK's have had to either carry other people's luggage or, on several occasions, give another wife a 'rest' from a harsh noisy, uncomfortable ride... the XK is simply the best GT in the world, at a reasonable price.
Surprised you didn't notice any difference in ride and economy - although the 5.0L encourages the use of the right foot so economy might be more down to driving style.
Thanks for the video.
I think you made a good choice to get the best XK and make it a keeper, but personally I would keep a 4.2 if it’s for ‘collectors’ and or value purposes. My guy who services mine knows an Arab chap in North London (he won’t mention his name as he’s famous) that owns over 35 cars including one of those fancy a mil Ferrari’s, and bought 3 of them (4.2s) and is now storing underground for the long term. Probably knows what we are all thinking or hoping for...
@kingdoz why do you think the 4.2 would be more collectible?
Good vid, had my 4.2 for 3 years and done 30k great car.apart from usual stuff like replacing valley pipes ( nightmare) and keeping on top of maintenance it's been faultless. Upgrades are custom map pulley and exhaust. Only things you didn't mention are ride quality, better in the 4.2 for uk roads and the fact the 5.0 is direct injection which can start to get carbon build up on valves which the 4.2 doesn't suffer with. Enjoy your car mate, good choice.
Nice one, good extra info
I have a 4.2 what did the custom map and pulley upgrade do to the performance and is it really noticeable?
I went 5.0 purely due to the more modern front end being more appealing to me. From a sound and performance standpoint, I would have been happy with either. The differences for daily driving are minimal between the two, although there are a lot of small things on the 5.0s that are more modern (bluetooth, E-Diff, etc.). Either is awesome.
4.2 sounds better
2010 XKR owner, pulleyed and tuned to about 600hp, is simply the best, most reliable car I have ever owned (among about 30). Have tracked it dozens of times and never misses a beat. I have accumulated 185,000 miles on mine, still looks and drives like new, and ZF still shifts crisply and has had no work except for 2 fluid changes. Magnificent value!
Thanks for this as helps with decisions. Great to know they’re capable of high mileage without serious problems. Cheers
Good to hear. I just bought a 2012 XKR conv; 42,000 miles, white on black. Can you please tell me about your tune and pulleys?
I meant dipstick not district. Sorry
Did you end up tuning the transmission to shift quicker?
@@implectic I did not do anything to the ZF. I did the Eurocharged tune along with the pulley and X pipe replacing the center resonator. It is still my daily driver as well as the car I take to the track on occasion. And as I've said before, I've never had an automatic transmission last 200,000 miles let alone on a 600hp vehicle. This is a great automobile.
I've been dreaming about this car for a long time. Every time this question comes up, it seems like the owners of either version are just really happy about their purchase. For me though, it'll be the old one.
The only thing I don't like about the 4.2 (the earlier 150) is the side blade, is it a functional vent? Other than that... larger diameter wheels are easy to get, fuse #19 is easy to remove, wheel spacers are readily available and suspension modifications can be made. The 5.0 would be over powered for my purposes and I'm not a fan of the shift dial, or for that matter all of the electronic gadgetry of either car so... It's the XK-8 for me! I love everything about that model, all of the wood trim, the un cluttered dash panel, the clean and sleek body work...
I admire all of the XK models for their different features but, for me, the original is always the one I come back to. Unless... I could have one of each!😃😉
Excellent video again. I bought a low mileage 57 plate XKR 4.2 in Botanical Green back in November. Love it. Replaced my Honda S2000 so was interested to hear your comparison. Very different beasts. Keep up the good work.
Absolutely, glad you enjoyed it
I've got a 4 2, love it. Money no object I would love a 2014 XKR-S.
That said, I find myself agreeing with everything you said. Great video.
I find the S and S GT a little over the top on the visuals, but am keen to drive them 👌
Great platform, I needed this video as I'm seeking to determine which model provides the experience we're seeking from a Jaguar.
Excellent post!! I’ve been looking for an XKR for a long time now, your narration on these two fine machines, makes a ton of sense to me, on many levels. Rethink time!!
Glad it helped out! the naturally aspirated XK's are well worth a look too, especially the 5.0 385 bhp
Finally got an 2010 XKR 5.0 Ltr. My primary decision, was based on the vehicle’s history. It is low mileage, service record(100% Jaguar) original owner(women who traded for a 2014 XK)......car is MINT!
I have a 2004 xkr. Only 32000 miles
I have a 2007 4.2 xk, has done 250.000 miles. it looks and drives like a new car., these will do 400.000 miles. if looked after.
Nice one
Have many key parts been replaced in that time?
I've got to consider and try out these two beauties sometime soon. At-ease, enjoyable and informative commentary.
Thanks, these are very helpful. I'm thinking of getting one as a weekender.
Excellent video thanks. I am about to buy the older one. Main reason is actually the gear selector. I really hate the transmission selector knob in the 5L model. I nearly bought an XF at one point, but really hated the transmission selector when driving it. I now have the Range Rover Sport with the 5 Litre supercharged engine (same as the XKR) and before that had an XJR with the 4.2L supercharged engine, and they are both great engines. I now want the XKR I will feel most comfortable in, and that is the 4.2 model.
Nice one, as I mentioned it was a major factor for me too. Seems insignificant to some people, but when you're interacting with it all the time, you may as well get the one you prefer
You've hit on the nail when you talk about Lazy Performance (love it) I've got an Infiniti G37 same thing the thing has so much guts that everything it does is effortless. Want to poodle along no problem, want to overtake effortless, in short guts.
Perhaps grunt is a better expression
Interesting watch . Was thinking of changing from 4.2 to the 5L XKR but now think I’m going to change the pulling and get a remap to get the extra power and keep the positive points of the 4.2 with the near enough power of the 5L. Good post , keep em coming 👍
Nice one, glad you enjoyed it! Episode two is already out between BMW 6 Series models, and the third will most likely return to a Jag versus match
I agree. I have a base 4.2 which suits the car well. I think the 4.2 r and 5 r would have too much power and get into trouble if you are not careful. I don't think you need more power than 300 bhp
I prefer the older 4.2 because of price and the older style. More torque over the newer 5.0. The 4.2 sounds better with the deeper sound.
I have a silver 4.2 as my every day car. After market exhaust that really shows of the auto blip down shift feature in sport mode.
Great video, glad you now have one and enjoying it.
Watched your reviews during lock down last year🤗
Nice one! Glad you enjoyed them. I'm back and forth on buying a Spires stage 3 non-active, but £2,200 is an awful lot for a nicer sound, haha
4.2 XKR Portfolio I've had about 6 months. About 7k miles on it so far. Absolutely loving it. Just the right amount of low end rumble, still perfectly civilized on the freeways and interstates. I was shopping for a '15-'16 392 Challenger and ended up test driving an '07 XKR Convertible, a '11 XKR Convertible, and the one I eventually bought, a 2008 XKR Portfolio Coupe. And it was 15k less than the Challenger I wanted. Best bang for buck IMO, and potential buyers will not be disappointed with either.
Btw, mine is not limited to 155 😬
Haha nice
I had a similar experience when looking for a new toy. I looked at everything from Chrysler Crossfire's to Mustang's to Mercedes and Porche's. I found a 2009 XKR Portfolio and I loved the shadow gray color and it drove better than any car I tested. The fact I bought it for 24K was a bonus, a quarter of the original sticker price with only 70k well maintained miles. Best car for the $$$ in today's market.
Mind explaining why you chose the coupe over the drop tops? I'm in the market and even though the coupe looks better, I'd love the drop top for fair weather driving and the better aural experience!
I own a 2008 4.2 XKR Portfolio Edition with just around 20,000 miles and I would not trade it for the XKR-S 5.0 for even swap, the 4.2 is reliable. I love the adequate power of 420 HP/413 lb-ft on a perfect supercharge engine, this is a true fine tuned Grand Touring gentleman's automobile not a super car so Jaguar could have crammed a larger supercharger under the hood and cranked it up to a 700 HP/ 697 lb-ft to the rear wheels and called it a Super Car past XKR-S GT and still I would have passed on it! I'm quite content with the subtle exhaust note at idle and the smooth sleeper sound where you can pull up to an elegant restaurant on a date night, then the ability to hit 4000 RPM in the the sports mode using the paddle shifter on the back road twists as you drive back home. Overall, I love the 4.2 original car over the 5.0 where it the rumble could not be detected as a Jaguar original note.
Agreed 👍
For me facelift xk looks way better, thats why i bought 2012 xkr-s after accident and rebuilding it :)
absolutely, before the facelift that car is not even a contender
Thought about a 5.0 xkr for a while, ended up waiting a bit longer and got an xkr-s 5.0. looking back, I can't imagine having settled for anything less.
Fantastic review! With regards the looks, I agree with you on the front bumper of the older one. Looks nicer. But the headlights? Newer look a vast improvement.
I am lucky enough to have an XK Dynamic R 2014, which I bought in 2019. Prior to that I had a 2008 4.2 XKR. They are very different cars, apart from the engines as you highlight. The chassis is lower on the Dynamic R and also benefits from the reworked suspension from the XKR-S. When pushing on in the 4.2, I always found some under-steer and slight wallowing at the front end, I tried to address this by upgrading the bushes all round including front and rear anti roll bar bushes, with poly bushes. It improved it but didnt completely fix it. I also did a ECU upgrade and put in 200 cell Sports Cat along with K&N air filter. So I reckon the 4.2 was around 440 bhp, my 5 litre Dynamic R plus ECU / K&N is around 560bhp. The 4.2 engine is pretty bullet proof, along with gear box and general reliability was good. 5 litre engines can have a timing chain issue, which if not modified can cause problems, this was fixed after 2012 I think. Before replacing the poly-bushes, as with other Jags I had - there would be wear a lot of wear. I was also not happy with the brakes, so swapped these out for EBS yellow stuff pads that give a better bite, could be a little violent if your not gentle. The other aspect of this is drive-ability. Both the 4.2R and 5R need bucket loads of respect. If you are over eager with the throttle you can go sideways very very quickly. Its much less likely in the 4.2 but still possible and scary when it happens ! The rear profile of the tyres is 285/30/20 and on the dynamic 295. Fronts are the same at 255/35/20. I have always used Michelin 4S's and seems to be the most popular choice in the forums. The Dynamic R is different, it has the XKR-S suspension and on a dry day with the Michelin's has a ridiculous amount of grip, on a damp day it can be a handful, and if you see a snowflake - stay in doors or do as I do and have a second set of all weather tyres. You can still loose the back end of the Dynamic R if you floor it at 50/60mph on a dry road with Michelin's, so it does need to be treated with respect. The handling is a lot sharper, much less under-steer and much more responsive. I also prefer the front end, the Dynamic R has upgraded LED lights front and rear. Fuel economy are about the same. The gearbox is more responsive in the dynamic R - I think this is a result of a software upgrade more than a change in mechanical. So I would say the 4.2 is easier to drive, its no slouch, but less likely to get you into bother. The only other thing I have spent money on in the Dynamic R - which you can do on the 2007-2012 (older shape X150) is put in a retro-fit Apple Car play box fitted by Cartonics in Surrey. Its a little clunky but does the job of getting integrated and once up and running - you have to press a small button works well. A great video though - thanks for highlighting the model. The sad thing was I PX'd my 2008 XKR with 100k for £8.3k, with no expense spared. :-( live and learn !
Nice one, thanks for dropping by!
Let me sum this up for anyone who’s torn between which is a better option for them
If you want minimal problems and maintenance, and more reliability, get the 4.2 S/C
If you want to replace the entire cooling system, including water pump, upper and lower outlet pipes, crossover, rear manifold pipe, fuel system issues with high pressure pump failure(1000’s of $) and eventually possibly timing chain failure, get the 5.0 s/c. It does have more horsepower 🙄🤣
Hm, I’m kinda torn now 🤔😆
@@HSGAutomotive worked for Jag for a bit, this is about as accurate as it gets. That new style pop up rotary gear selector box is more prone to problems as well, and once it decides it’s gonna head out, you will either be
A. Stranded and can’t shift from park(short of neutral release under counsel)
B. Won’t go back down into place and then the car won’t start at all and you’ll once again be stranded
Or C. All of the above and a strong bitter attitude especially when you get the quote for a brand new one(buy used/refurbished)
@@HSGAutomotive also for some reason, the 10+ model years door latches love to fail and you get the double beep indicating the vehicle isn’t locked. Or the alarm will randomly go off thinking the latch has been opened. Fix all of the above issues and the 5.0 XKR is a great car, but needs all the updated part numbers 🤣 service history is key for sure
Thanks for the video and comparison. After 25 years and 150,000+ miles on my XJS I was looking for a long distance companion as reliability and parts availability began to be a concern. To me the X100 is the prettier body style, but the improvements in chassis and interior room tiled me toward the X150. Hence I now have a second year (2008 is the US) X150 XKR coupe'. What I love is beautiful shape, very nice and comfortable interior, "effortless cruising" as you said, excellent exhaust sound, and no need to worry about merging onto the freeway. Just pick your gap and dial up the acceleration needed to reach it. I do not think I have ever used full throttle with this beast. Oh yes, there are lots of compliments and quiet looks, showing jag does know how to style a GT. Now I am looking for a drop top XK or XKR for good weather travel. I have no need for all the power of the 4.2 so the 5.0 R is overkill, except for the bells and whistles that come with the R, so perhaps a 2012 (US) 5.0 R for the daytime running lights and backup camera, or I am even considering a base 5.0 XK although I wonder what the R has (other than the blower) that the base does not. Of course this all depends on the options specified of the base, but I would like a list of the differences between the two if anyone has information on that. Short story- I have a 4.2 R coupe' and love it, and plan to add a 5.0, blown or not, DHC.
Great video, I had a 2010 XKR 5.0, i sold it in the summer of this year and instantly regretted it. Bought a 2013 XKR dynamic two weeks later.
Nice haha
I have the 4.2 in Convertible form. I've had Adamesh rear pipes fitted. It sounds like a Nascar with the roof down. Tunnels are a hoot!
Very enjoyable and informative video. Have been tempted for many years - I would buy the 4.2 for the commonly held view that they are closely matched in all areas except value for money. Sadly the lack of a manual gearbox is a major factor for my wife even though I personally feel the auto probably matches the character of the car better.
Hi, I have a Mazda rx8 at the moment and absolutely love it. It handles beautifully, sounds great and has an interesting power delivery. However, I would really love an XK or XKR as my next car. Seems like an awesome car and have adored these since they came out. Great video, keep it up 👍
Nice one
Definitely agree on the 4.2 shifter. Manufactures are making a mistake removing visceral mechanical control with the drivetrain in these console shifters. Dial-A-Gear lost every sensory experience and I hate it. Feel matters. The 4.2 even includes fog lights which are omitted in the 5.0.
Yeah I love the older front end with the extra lights. Never really liked how the 5.0 models look essentially the same as each other in XK and R form.
And somewhere to rest your hand!,
As I'm an F type owner, I can see the styling ques from the XK. the XK is one of my favorite Jaguars and it's a true GT in every sense. The F Type can't compete with it as a tourer as the F Type is somewhere between sports and tourer. The XK's have always been special coming from a pedigree that defined Jaguar. While I've not driven an XK, I'm sure that the ride must be sublime ! Both of these 4.2 & 5 are beautiful. Jaguar needs to resurrect the XK line !
Absolutely, and I also drove the V6 S F-Type roadster and it was great. Definitely more of a pure sports car over the XK, which is less my style
I drove my xkr-s 1750 miles back home after purchase. It was 26 hours, drove it nearly straight through with a 1.5 hour nap in between. Easily one of the most comfortable drives I've ever made. The comfort definitely made it easier to drive for such a long time, as I never really felt fatigued. Well, either that or the coffee I was drinking.
Sadly they won’t. The F-Type is on its way out. And so are the V8s in general I guess.
I was glad to hear you give the NA 5.0 some love, my wife loves her 2011 XK Coupe...it is an incredible automobile with plenty of power, I wish I got to drive it more! At least I have my XJR & XKR (both 4.0s) to keep me satisfied! lol
Nice one, haha
Great comparison of the two versions! I went shopping for this generation of the XKR after owning a 2002 XK8 Coupe and came away not liking it as much as my 2002. The previous generation had a somewhat softer chassis that gave a somewhat more isolated feel and GT-centric driving experience. It's understandable given that the XK8 chassis evolved from the XJS. I test drove the NA5.0 Coupe thinking it would be the "softest" version and came away feeling that Jaguar definitely moved the needle away from GT and more toward Sports Car in terms of the ride and handling. It's not all-out sports car like a 911 but it is a lot sharper than the previous generation XK8/XKR in my opinion. After driving a 2013 XJ-L Supercharged, I became convinced that the XJ is where I belong for the spirited but more luxurious GT experience I had in my XK8.
I certainly enjoyed my time in the X350 generation XJ8 which was featured here recently in Beards ‘n Cars as well, and I’m really keen to get my hands on an XJR. The handling was easily the standout for me, especially after driving it back to back with the 2013 era XJ, it puts the new car to shame. Glad you enjoyed the review!
I have had a 4.2 but have had 5.0 litre for 5 Years, it’s a convertible, so I love top down to listen to the exhaust. Best jag I’ve ever owned , driven all over Europe, I prefer the 5 litre, by the way you can get a speed pack for the car if you want more grunt. Never let me down , oddly enough the dvd for the satnav stopped working which I replaced. I also replaced the water pump which had a leak, I have also owned a 4 litre.
Thanks for that excellent video! Very timely indeed. For me it has to be the 4.2 XKR. Why? 4.2 engine finally bulletproof, 5.0 auto dial selector has been ‘problematic’ in other jags, and the verdict from the Jaguar Enthusiasts Club seminar on XKRs was “not sure how reliable 5.0 litre will prove to be and the torque can be overpowering on a badly surfaced road.” I also like the cleanliness of the design of the earlier car and it’s purity. Anyway, I think you made the right choice. Thanks again for such an informative and intelligent video. Cheers!!
thanks for one of the best reviews regarding the differences between the two models. one point that i feel has been missed is the weight difference, and the feel of the turn in between the two. If you can imagine a 100 kg adult sitting on the bonnet at turn in would make a significant feel in response favouring the older lighter model...
A fair addition for sure. To me the 5.0 feels far happier in straight lines for sure
Awesome video mate. Cheers from Canada. I’m going to keep my eye out for an XK XKR
Enjoy!
Really helpful video, thanks! I'm currently just getting in to the market for an XKR and all your videos on them have been very insightful. Looking forward to getting behind the wheel of a few, once lockdown lets up!
Nice one! Glad they helped out, and once you drive one I think you’ll be hooked 👌
Superb comparison/review of two incredible cars. I would love to to own an XK, beautifully designed big cat with head turning looks, possibly my next Jag (my last six cars have been Jags). Currently driving a stunning XJ X351 Portfolio and loving it,comfort, handling, performance and economy.
Ah nice, I reviewed the X351 a few weeks back along with the X350 👍
Ended up getting a 2010 XKR.. Magnificent.. thank you for the great videos.
Nice one, enjoy!
Everything you said about the car is true. It can indeed be rabid, but I am so used to driving my 1985 Mercs and 1988 land cruiser... but, holy shit when I want, it is insane. I love this car man. Cheers from Tampa
@@intheether2842 Haha nice, glad you’re enjoying it
Three key words when buying either. Maintenance Maintenance Maintenance.
The 5.0ltr has oil fed timing chain guides, so look for oil changes at higher than manufacturer spec, so, more frequent than 15,000 miles, and I would look for one that's been serviced every 5000 miles. Make sure in either car the gearbox has been serviced, the interval is 7 years or 70,000 miles, and it's a must. Also, if you're buying one with closer to 6 figure mileage, make sure it's had a diff service. Check the obvious stuff like headlining, etc. I had an XF 3.0ltr petrol V6 premium luxury and now have a 3.0ltr supercharged XJ portfolio and I never had and haven't had any major breakdowns (the ZF 6hp25 in the XF broke and had to be reconditioned but that's an ZF problem) incidentally the XK was fitted only with the 6hp gearbox. Overall I've been very pleased with my Jags, the driving experience is incredible, Jags drive like no other cars, I've had BMW, Lexus, Mercedes so I speak with some experience. So in summary, if you're considering either then study the service history with a microscope and if all good you should be fine. One last thing whilst I remember, my Jag specialist said they get a lot more 5.0ltr's in with engine issues than 4.2's. Whether that's because there's more of them I don't know.
I prefer the older exterior but the 5.0. Still, either one is pretty good. Great baseline engine design.
Favorite video of the New Year. I recently bought an 4.2 xkr for many of the same reasons you mentioned (except for economy). I had a similar experience when choosing a used first gen Audi TT. I chose the 225 turbo over the 3.2 that was also available. The larger engine made the little TT a more clumsy handling vehicle. It wanted to plow a bit in tighter corners. I liked that with a few simple mods my 225 was as quick and more agile. Regarding the Jags I bought the 4.2 based on how much I like that engine in my 04 XJR. If I’m honest I like the drama of the gear selector in the 5.0 and a couple of convenience options that were available. Overall though I am thrilled with my new to me XKR. I hope you enjoy yours for years to come.
Nice one! And I'm looking forward to driving an X350 generation XJR for sure, as I've only driven the XJ8 Sport of that shape to date
@@HSGAutomotive shame we don’t live in the same country. I’d gladly lend you the XJR for awhile. Thanks again for all of the great content. I often rewatch when the weather isn’t xkr friendly and I’m missing driving it.
Those cars are just like two beautiful women I’d love either of them yes they both will drink the juice but is that really a bad thing if it puts a smile on your face. Excellent video more Jaguar’s please
More to come in the series for sure 👍
Had a 2010 XK (385hp) and now have a 2015 XKR (517hp, with x-pipe active exhaust). The XK definitely had fun usable HP, but I had to have the one that's trying to kill me every time I get in it and that's what I prefer. Even doing a tune a smaller pulley to get over 600hp. Drove a 4.2 XKR before I bought my 2015, but again, the 2015 was a bit more dangerous to me with practicality and money not being a concern. I do wish they would have kept some of the supercharger wine in the 5.0 the 4.2 has (completely gone in the 5.0), I actually like the shifter better in the 4.2 and those Senta wheels are the best looking period IMO. Nice review and Subscribed!
Nice one! Glad you enjoyed it, and I love that each of the XK's are so genuinely different, not just trims and facelifts
Huge Jaguar XKR fan. It's kind of been a dream of mine to own one for a long time....finally find myself in a position to maybe consider one; but after watching your videos and doing more and more research I think I may actually be leaning towards getting a base NA 5.0. Either way, I'm pretty stoked about trying to make this work out.
Nice one, as I spoke about in a more recent video breaking down all 6 major versions from the 4.2 base to the 5.0 RS, the 5.0 XK is an excellent and mostly undervalued all rounder, and has a more elegant cruiser feel than the R
Great comparison. I bought a 2007 XKR in 2010 for £36k and which was a bargain for a 3 year old immaculate main dealer car with 28,000 miles on the clock. Ran it for two years and did nothing other than put petrol in it then sold it for £26k. Loved every minute. Wished I’d kept it. Unfortunately my next two jags were not good cars and I left the brand 5 years ago.
5.0 engine has variable valve timing and lift, and direct fuel injection. The supercharger on the 5.0 is used to fill in the torque curve - it has max torque anywhere from 2,500 rpm up. Deceptively quick as it doesn't need to kick down.
I went for as close to traditional as I could. Having owned an xke coupe and convertible in the 70s I wanted to recapture the thrill and charm - they were both 4.2s. I found an immaculate 07 4.2 XK and absolutely love it. There is no car more fun to drive in my opinion.
I agree, the 4.2 has a more classic vibe to it
@@steven-ui7sz For me it’s not so much the extra foot to the floor ability, but more the overall feel of the extra torque in particular. At 413 lbft it just never feels like the engine is breaking a sweat, and I love that. The best way to experience the difference is obviously to test all four and feel it. The N/A 5.0 is a sweet spot as well, with 385 bhp it feels just right for a non blower and more elegant than the 5.0 R
Excellent review, thank you.
I’ve just acquired a 2009, 4.2 XKR convertible for £15k. It’s in lovely condition. I find the drive quality slightly more refined than the 5ltr, which I also test drove. Whilst the 5ltr is and looks more modern ( it’s still beautiful ) it’s more twitchy to drive around town. All that power, 503bhp, in a 30mph limit makes it more difficult to keep the speed down! It’s not quite as relaxing in my view. And then the sound of the 4.2. It’s deeper purring noise, just as a Jaq should be.
I've had a 2011 base XK 5.0 for over 6 years now. As I look at other cars to trade it in for, it's difficult to find something comparable. It's great on long trips, swathed in leather... heated and cooled seats, sounds great when you hit the gas, and after 6 years I still look forward to driving it. The only car I am considering trading it for is a Lotus Evora.
Ah interesting. I'm not sure I'd have enough space in any Lotus, haha. I'm looking to get a Panamera as my next motor
I see you've got quite a few XK videos on this channel, I'll enjoy watching them all over the next few weeks!
For me, I watched the video and pretty much agree with you on all your points. The only issue for me is that I don't like the looks of the 4.2l cars, the facelifted model is much prettier in my eyes. I think that the lower lights are the issue for me, the old style lights with the side vents are a big improvement, and it gets even better with the flashier lights.
At the end of the day I think I prefer the XK100 over either of them, but prices might be close enough to force me into a more modern car. Probably a 03-06 XK8 would be the ideal middle ground for me.
Prices still haven't gone too crazy on most X100's which definitely helps
@@HSGAutomotive XK100's are about 12-15k CAD where I live, doesn't seem to be much of a range with them, though the R's are probably close to 20. Early XK150's are between 17-28k, depending on the model. Most of both gens are convertibles, which is a bit of a shame I don't really want one.
Many Thanks, very informative! Peace From London. 👍👍👍
Cheers, glad you enjoyed
Good sensible video, I have a 2008 4.2 love it, incredibly reliable, I'd question the 23 mpg I get nowhere near that except on a run, I'd also mention that I'm just coming up to 190000 miles, and had no issues whatsoever except a failed supercharger coolant pump.. no biggie.. admitedly miles were pretty much motorway and service history is all jaguar stamped to present, iterior is as new no wear whatsoever, like you I do love the j gate gearchange.. dont be put off by miles as long as theres proper history it shouldnt be an issue..
In time the 4.2 has cleaner lines and actually the better engine overall from what I hear.
I owned an 07 xk which was lovely.
A low mileage 4.2xkr in a nice spec is the way to go longer term I think.
@@M135iboost actualy its oposite. 4.2 is old school engine modified in 10 years to perfection. 200 000miles is nothing for 4.2sc while 5.0sc must be repaired 2-3 times to achive that.
No I just repair Jags. And have both 4.2sc and 5.0sc. the only problem of 4.2sc engine is (when overheated) exaust gas in the coolant. still can be driver for hundred thousands of miles after that. 5.0sc suffers chain problems, if not repaired in time grinds block and spun bearings-total death of engine. charger coupler starts ratling as low as 50K miles. I have witnessed and serviced 4.2sc superchargers with 200 000miles without oil changes.and its still perform flawelsy. direct injectors fails time to time on 5.0sc. the only advantage of 5.0sc is more power across ALL revs range, especialy 4500+ the sound of 4.2sc in engine bay is noiseless , while 5.0sc sounds like a diesel. very diferent engines.
@@rolandasv3797 I’m cba with arguing with someone who is clearly misinformed. You might repair them. I’m a master tech who knows the engineers who engineered both engines personally. But yeah you must know more.
@UCV5NiA5rNhlF0BrWezUHKZA I really do not understand source of conflict here. We both love jags. Lets not spoil friendly atmosphere of this clip. It just matter of preference. Being part time mechanic I want to drive my jag(=eat miles) most of the time, rather than want to repair it. Even changing spark plugs is tought job comparing to 4.2. Life is sometime rude to us and our imaginations. 5.0SC outperforms 4.2SC in every sigle aspect powerplant performance related . Yet engines have another features,such as sound, reliability, maintenance intervals. There is tons of 4.2sc made from 2002 to 2009. Very few have catastrophic engine failures. And there lot of died 5.0SC and 3.0SC. Time tells reality not books. just my 2 cents. Sorry if I made you feel angry or bad.
My comment before watching: I've owned both - a 2007 XK DHC (4.2) and I now have a 2013 XK Portfolio DHC (5.0).
The 4.2 has a noticeably better ride, seems more agile and the seats go lower (more headroom) - less electronics underneath them.
The 4.2 seats are more comfortable if you have wide hips - the bolsters are further apart.
The facelift 5.0 looks slightly better (headlights and wider grille), has a slightly nicer interior BUT is MUCH more powerful.
The 5.0 has a similar performance to the 4.2 Supercharged.
Don't bother with the 5.0L Supercharged - you cannot use the extra power.
The 5.0 sounds different - as if the firing order has been changed - it 'pants' like a U.S. Muscle Car - the 4.2 sounds very "European". Both sound excellent and benefit from XKR rear boxes with open side valves and centre X-pipes. Fancy expensive exhausts alter the suave character of the cars (I've tried a few and always reverted to the Jaguar boxes).
The 5.0 is noticeably less economical (I've driven 1000's of miles in both and trust me - the 5.0 is about 10% more thirsty).
I love my 5.0L (bought for the headlight upgrade) but I miss the ride, handling and agility of the 4.2L. I am considering swapping out my 5.0L suspension for a 4.2's - it's that significant.
Note: - wheels are NOT interchangeable. The 5.0L rear diff is larger and the offsets on the rear wheels are different.
Special Note: the 5.0L facelift has 'leapers' in the headlights - but you have to hunt for them 😊
Power is unusable without sticky tires. Think Toyo r888rs
Great video and fantastic commentary. I prefer the 4.2
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it!
Wife has a 2013XK but I like the older 'vents' on the side. I like it enough, im thinking about getting one for myself.
Plenty of smiles per mile for sure! :)
Had my 2007 xkr for 5 years. (Same colour as yours). Every time i drove it was like the first time. I too prefer the older gear stick. Wouldn't have sold it except for the extortionate tax and only using it a couple of times a week. Hopefully get another one some day.
Yeah I know the tax is high but insurance has come right down. I have 2 years no claims and only paying £280 a year fully comp with performance direct as I don’t drive it to work, only social. I wouldn’t waste too long getting one though as they are getting rarer and actually going up in price. The 4.2 is starting to get considered as the modern E type.
I have the 5.0 XK-R and love it. Anyone looking to purchase an XK will not be disappointed with either. A stunning Jaguar that always turn heads.
Absolutely
Great review, but you never mentioned you have the base model interior in the 4.2, Can tell by the impressions on the seat wings, you only have 10 way adjustable seats VS 16 way in the 5.0 - plus chrome and piano black trim and detail on the adjustment bezels, heated seats on the 4.2 but you've heated and cooled seats on the 5.0 - and what looks to be portfolio spec on that 5.0 should mean you have a heated steering wheel too and B&W sound system. These are all relevant when it comes to "more bang for your buck" - Glad I have that Stately 5.0XK Portfolio though! The things I mentioned won it for me over the 4.2 xkr Thanks for putting this together!
I actually quite like the look of the ribbed seats in the silver 4.2, although mine has different ones with the air adjustable lumbar support and perforated leather etc. And those intricate interior details will likely never be a part of these showdowns, since it would add 10+ minutes to the run time for something which is down to each potential buyer to decide for themselves.
Having lived with a 5.0 XKR for over 7 years the best realisation is that the car is overpowered for a GT cruiser. Instant power requests at low speed just trigger traction control interference ... and it's not subtle either! The 5.0 XKR is massively traction limited in lower gears. Spirited cornering causes plenty of lateral movement on the seat as they're just not designed to grip the occupant. If you're wanting to cruise in style then the 4.2 is just fine and dandy. However, if you want a visceral experience and have a desire to go fast then a 5.0 XKR in dynamic-sport mode with DSC off gives a whole new animal. Match this with XKR-S seats and the car is a transformation. It can still do the GT thing but curves and straights take on an entirely new lease of life. The grin factor is huge. Add a dose of XKR-S X-pipe exhaust, 200 cell cats, supercharger pulleys and you've got a monster. You'll then need sticky rear tyres to resolve the traction concerns. Looking forward to the next decade with this car.
I wrecked an 07 xkr drop top. Replaced with a 12 xkr and honestly prefer the 4.2.
I do like both XKR, but the road tax calculation here in Malaysia is based on engine capacity. The larger the engine, the higher the road tax you have to pay. So while I do like the 5.0 performance, I don't mind settling with the 4.2.
Just bought a 2007 black XKR convertible - love it. PS. You sound like Sting.
Nice one, and cheers, lol
Before watching, I'm leaning towards a 4.2 - cheaper to buy and cheaper VED, I like the older body and I'd more more comfortable messing around with upgrades especially to the interior. But seriously tempted by the 5.0 anyway, it looks incredible.
Easily one of your best videos
Thanks buddy! 🤙
Definitely gonna look at one of these, wanna go back to Jaguar
From what you say think a tidy 5L XK is the way to go with good history/provenance, but the more comments I read maybe the better one is a 4.2 XK, don't need and R. Would just love to bumble about and burble! lol
Enjoying the reviews 👍
Sounds like you might want to try out the 5.0 XK actually, I like it more than the R, and has a distinctly elegant cruiser feel. Plus the 385 bhp is a significant improvement over the 300 bhp 4.2 for when you need better grunt
Cheers, thanks for the reply 👍
Love the vid. I bought the 4.2 over 10 years ago, and then bought a 5.0 a year later thinking it must be better while still owning the 4.2 and had it listed it on autotrader, but ended up keeping my 4.2 and selling the 5.0 as I simply loved my 4.2 and how it felt to drive. It simply is a drivers car, I don’t know what it is, but I just felt better in it. I cant explain it apart from it felt like I had more control and was more at one with the car and felt more oomphh in it even though officially it is slower. On a separate note, recently I am also watching the pricing jump through the roof, I actually cannot believe it’s now actually gone up in value over the last 5 years. I’m not usually lucky with my purchases but this jag seems to be my friend. Will the 4.2 be the E Type of the modern era? I don’t know, but what I do know is I love it far too much to ever sell it even though every MOT I ask myself is it now time to sell for a more practical car. I just can’t do it though. Even though I need an SUV, and after watching your vid and falling in love over and over again with mine, I have now decided that I will just buy a cheaper SUV and own 2 cars rather than selling my XK. Yes, I feel guilty but I love it too much. Even my jag service guy (who owns an E type) has told me how a good one in black won’t be had for less than 15k now, no one wants to let theirs go, and they seem to only die out due to accidents nowadays, and prices are creeping on the 4.2 much more so than even newer 5.0s. Fingers crossed this is only the beginning as nothing ‘affordable’ is like it out there. So, mine is now garaged overnight and I’m using it conservatively now to keep mileage in the 70ks.
Nice one, and on the point of SUV’s, I’m dropping a review of the Range Rover SVR tomorrow, which literally feels like the XKR of SUV’s. Jaguar motor putting out 570 horses, phenomenal performance and sound. A fair bit more expensive than an XK even used, but definitely the SUV of choice for existing Jag fans, even more so than Jaguar’s own F-Pace in fact
@@HSGAutomotive looking forward to it. Subscribed.
Purley on a cosmetic front I prefer the Black/ivory combo. But I would be interested in a comparison between a 5.0 xk and a 4.2 xkr.
Both lovely cars. I enjoyed both my XFs so the XK or XKR is definitely on the list when the L322 goes.
Absolutely loved my time in the XFR, and a diesel XF I delivered recently too 👍 great motors
They're still beautiful..will own one eventually right now I got a challenger going get a charger or a truck next as a family car to make the Mrs. Happy but after that I'll get me one for sure..
Ah nice
After having no idea what car to buy I gradually honed in on either Porsche or the Jag. Eventually settled on a 2007 Jaguar XKR and I couldn't be happier. I honestly don't know what I could replace this car with, it's pretty much perfection in every department. If I could single one thing out it's the overtaking launch; it's blistering and other cars recede at lighning speed in the mirror. But then there's the beautiful interior (white leather in my case) and wonderful exterior styling,, which I didn't fully appreciate until I washed it. The big problem is staying away from it: I just want to drive it all the time.
Absolutely :) not much else rivals it for the money
A little late to this video but I am considering buying and XKR and I’m looking at both 4.2 and 5.0 versions around the £14-18k mark so very interested to see which one I prefer after the review.
I'm in the Market for older one, having owned Fords' F150 Lightning that shared a similar Eaton supercharger, I'm leaning towards the XKR. But, & it's a big but, I'll be motoring long highway miles back & forth to South Carolina from New England. The mileage, the exhaust drone, & higher overall maintenance has me reconsidering the normally aspirated 4.2L. great comparison though! 👍
Jaguar actually worked extensively to make the supercharger whine as quiet as possible in these, and from my own experience did an excellent job. I will say though that if you do get the NA 4.2, as great as it is, you might find yourself wanting for some performance. 300 bhp is a little too low from my time in one.
Thank you mate 🙏
Great Video thanks, I have had the 4.2 XKR stupidly sold it. I now bought a 2010 XK 5.0L what a car, I expected that it would feel like a downgrade but it actually is excellent, stately elegance without shouting about it. What I would like to know if what you think of the ride between the 4.2 XK and the 5.0? I am still trying to sort the suspension on mine, it has 120k and still doesn't handle right, I am going to change the dampers.
I didn't personally feel a huge difference in ride to be honest, both felt great
Great video thnx
Awesome video comparison! Just what I was looking for, I am looking into perhaps purchasing an XKR 5.0 do you know what the service timelines are on the XKR's? Every 2 years? or 12,000 miles? And on average is it a three figure sum or four figure sum like the Maserati GT. Of course it's all dependant on what needs doing, just wanted too know from your perspective .Thanks
I don’t recall exactly what the interval number is on services, but I would say that unless a vehicle is either less than 3 years old or ultra low mileage, servicing is a borderline scam. As a mechanic myself, it rarely involves anything a regular garage can’t do for you, and becomes a glorified stamp collection. If anything check out the MOT history and receipts for work in general first.
@@HSGAutomotive Yeah that makes sense. That is the one thing that's put's me off a Maserati 4.7... The service cost's and the parts cost's as you mentioned in your comparison video. I still have lots of research to do on both .. and of course I still need to get round to driving both later this year of early next. Thanks again great videos and explanations cheers.
I bought the 5.0 and absolutely love it, I wanted the new gearbox, I am sure the old one is cool but I love the idea of the button disappearing into the console, I even put a jaguar sticker on it and it spins around! win! :-)
haha, nice
Before the start of the video: still just trying to figure out which XK to get, supercharged or not, XK8 or XK. I know I want a convertible version, though. Ideally trying to find a lower mileage example around the$15k-25k range. Not really too sure what to expect between the differences of the 4.2 vs the 5.0 aside from the speed aspect.
Totally agree!
I own a 4.2 basic convertible 2006 with only 60k miles, never missed a beat and just normal servicing. 300 hp is plenty enough for anyone and the gurgle from exhaust sounds orgasmic, real head turner and more reliable than the bigger hp jags.
I always liked the Senta wheels on the 4.2 XKR. Perfect rims that look stunning. For one reason or the other Jaguar no longer fitted the senta rims on the 5.0 liter verslons.
Yeah I have them on my 4.2 as well, the best wheels for sure, especially in the large diameter with black body colour that I opted for.
I’m looking to buy a 5.0 supercharge xkr. Hope to find a xkr-s but very difficult in the usa.
I know this is a relatively old video but I am trying to determine which MY XKR to buy. little back story; I currently own an L320 with the 4.2 SC, and an L494 with the 5.0 SC. So I am familiar with both engines. These vehicles are significantly different due to the chassis changes etc., and the L494 does have a little more grunt, but I believe a lot of that has to do with the 8-speed tranny change. I do however love the sound of the 4.2l, the supercharger whine usurps the exhaust notes of either of the engines, in my opinion. All that being said my commute to work is about 2 minutes, and rarely ever leave the small town I live in; which equates to, on a busy day out and about, a 10-mile radius. Lots of winding roads to drive, but also lots of police with nothing better to do than sit around and wait for enthusiastic drivers, so I would not be stretching out any vehicle I buy. Cars/bikes are more of a cathartic tool for me. I could spend 99% of my free time in the garage just messing with them. I do like the look of the older XKR a little more. I think with some tasteful mods they look incredible, which feeds into my tinkering fetish, but my wife/CFO would prefer I got something newer. She actually thinks out of all the options I should get an XKRS or an f-type. I like the XKRS, but it is a little over the top for me, and the F-type just does not appeal to me in the same way as the XK's. One option I do have is an XKR 175, harder to find, but there are some around, it would be a patience purchase. I do think, however, regardless of which I purchase first I will end up getting both somewhere down the road, just because apparently I am a hoarder per my wife. That being said I am still on the fence.
As a Bentley driver at heart I seem to need to continue to look for a 5.0, I prefer the interior anyway. So far I was not sure which one to choose, but given I am doing long motorway trips even the consumption should be less as the direct injection at least on our mercs comes into its own on long trips.
If that's your style of driving and feel, I'd definitely recommend the 5.0 yeah. Of course testing both would be ideal, and I would strongly recommend trying to test a 5.0 naturally aspirated XK, the 385 bhp model. Even smoother and more elegant than the 5.0 R.
I run the older 4.0ltr xkr. I prefer the curvy shape along with the traditional wood and leather which is gorgeous. PS it's a facelift model without the troubles of the first generation XK.
Its performance is as you might expect from a supercharged V8, so pretty
I found this video interesting and informative I am currently debating between the 5.0 XKR or a DB9. Difficult decision!
Ah yeah. Based on my past experience with Aston's, I'd recommend the Jag to be honest. The Aston is more flash, but like my Maserati was - a pain for reliability and servicing compared to Jaguar.
Many thanks for your advice. I'll be very wary of the DB9.
personally the 4.2 looks more aggressive and meaner with those fog lights
I agree, and I like that more. It reminds me of the British era of the 2000’s with Noble, TVR Sagaris and MG SV-R
I'm currently torn between a 2008 4.2 XKR and a 2010 5.0 XFR there's very little difference in price which makes me think the logical choice is the XFR, but I just adore the shape and style of the XK...
What did you end on going with? Congrats on either choice! We loved our 2008 4.2 but the onboard computer controller broke and we could not find the part anywhere. We ended up trading it in for the 2011 5L 2011, and in my opinion the 2011 is equally great, with even faster acceleration…
Anybody here watch guitar stuff too? This fellow sounds exactly like Chris Buck. Excellent video, from the owner of an 07 XKR convertible. Lovely car, plenty fast, reliable and still gets looks.
Ah yeah I can kinda hear it
I watch this with great interest, as the XKR 4.2 was one of the three cars on my shortlist to replace my 350 Z as my winter daily driver and join the Alfa spider, Saab 93 convertible and Porsche speedster 356 recreation in the fleet.
so I need a sporty, fixed roof coupe, and along with the XKR I have narrowed it down to a Z4 Coupe 3.0Si and Cayman 3.4 S.
I have a £15,000 budget and watching the video made me realise that the 5 L XK could be the solution rather than the XKR?
If you have any thoughts, please advise👍
Its definitely worth a look, the 5.0 base being an underrated choice for sure. Definitely give one a test drive if you get the chance
OK, now watched the video....the clincher for me was your line...the 4.2 feels like an Aston, the 5.0 like a Bentley....I say whato. Bertie here!
Haha, glad it helped out
I've just bought a XKR 2007 4.2 420bhp. So F Excited 🤭🤣🤣🤣❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Nice haha
hows the car . im thinking of getting same as yours any issues, is mpg ok
Also avoid direct injection issues with the 4.2
That’s the reason I got my XF with the supercharged 4.2. Don’t want to deal with carbon issues
Having driven both cars I agree that the gear lever on the 4.2 is a far more tactile experience than the rotary nob on the later 5 litre cars.
I also agree that the earlier cars were slightly prettier too.
Both variants wonderfully enjoyable. My personal favourite is the XKR convertible, all the better to hear the lovely sound of the V8 engine.
Nice one. I opted away from the convertible for three reasons. Trunk space, one less thing to potentially break, and I prefer the swooping lines of the coupe’s roof at the back