BARGAIN LUXURY V8s! Which Is Best.. Jaguar XK Vs Audi S5
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- Two incredible V8s for under £7000 pounds, less than a used supermini! The British Luxury Coupe that's the biggest bargain around.. the 2007 Jaguar XK (x150), versus the German V8, the 2007 Audi S5?
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I found this back in the archives. XK lovers may enjoy: ruclips.net/video/izP69N-y0_Q/видео.html
the leak in the jag will be the slam vents or the rear arch seal behind the fuse box rear.
They may be similar in numbers, but they are different classes of vehicle. The S5 is a spiced-up compact executive coupe, derivative of the sedan. The XK is a properly-shaped GT on the affordable side, where the "unaffordable" side is Aston Martin, Maserati, etc.
Fair point. Agreed.
Actually the XK is a spiced up derivative of the old X350 XJ.
@@SergioAlves-y6p they share some chasis parts, as the Bentley Continental shares parts with the Audi A8, but they are completely different machines. The A5/S5/RS5 and the A4/S4/RS4 share way more than just the chasis and the power plants. Even the styling is very similar.
You're absolutely right in terms of consumer advice, but it does make for a jolly fun video to watch!
Spot on.
Well I’ve owned my XK since 2008 and still love it. No breakdowns and even running the original battery.
A 15 years old battery? Yikes. You are brave indeed. 😇
@@truebluemiata Keep it on a trickle charger all good.
Wow, how many miles ?
@@fkrr5 31K
Owning an Audi S5 V8 for 10 years I recently had the carbon cleaning of the intake runners done professionally - the car was at 95K miles and it had never been done - Enormous difference! Felt like someone had added a turbo and exhaust. If you're over 60K miles - invest the money, you won't be disappointed !
I had the xk and the s5 and I can tell you that the jag has really good reliability and has better build quality surprisingly!!!! Jag all the way
Great video. I test drove both of these 4 years back and decided on the Jag. I normally change my cars every 12 months as I get bored. I’ve still got it. Such a nice car to drive and pretty pokey when you plant your foot ( I’ve got an SLK55 if I want to go faster ) It’s been pretty reliable too. Now on 72,000 miles, I’ve only had to change tyres, service it yearly and abs sensor in 4 years. Recommend it to anyone, always puts a smile on my face and passengers when I drive it
Jaguar is much, much better looking car of the two.
The Jaguar just looks so pretty and if that's standard exhausts on the XK she sounds so Good.
I don’t know about this Jaguar’s servicing. But I had an Audi from new and loved driving it until everything inside and out failed. Parts were astonishingly expensive and repairs were complex because so much had to be disassembled to reach other things. No more VW-Audi group for me.
Mr. 27, you and I (also owner of a 4.2 NA XK) are like-minded! 😉
Turns out I also strongly considered the S5 before going for the Jag!
The Audi may be a more modern and sensible car all around, but its looks, although quite easy on the eye, don't have the stunning grace of the Jag. Nor the classic Jag interior.
Plus here everyone and their mother have one! Whereas I rarely ever come across another XK on the road...
Absolutely agree. Here in NYC, there are tons of Audis....also tons of AMG Mercs... TWO tons of M BMWs... even Maseratis..... but I very rarely see XK Jags. (Bonus: Gals are always mystified....impressed and mystified... lol)
put a smoke pellet in the boot, watch from outside, the smoke will come out the same route as water gets in.
While I was at university I was earning money part time in repair shop in US. They specialized in European exotics. 80% of Jags arrived there on tow truck, Audi arrived 90% on their own power.
...thus demonstrating a form of survivor/selection bias.
At last a man who knows what he's talking about, rather then the Jag fan boys who know nothing. Probably too busy at the garage looking at their broken cars ! 🤣
@@andrewwaller5913 No indication of the number of broken Audis to repair compared to the Jags, though .... Seems Audis are designed to be driven when they break down - must be a reason for that, not enough tow trucks?-
Had plenty of jags and Audi's. The automatic audis always have gearbox issues. The jags never have gearbox issues. The 6 speed on Jag is bullet proof.
@@stevemawer848Mmm zero sense he makes
I think the Jag’s interior and ride Quality are way better than the Audi’s. I had to decide between an S5 Cabrio and the XKR x150 Convertible, and the Jag felt way more special. In fact I think there’s no better used GT cabrio to buy than an XKR X150.
I narrowed it down to these two when i bought a V8 Coupe in 2017. Went for the Audi in the end and wasn't disappointed, not a single issue with it and a pleasure to drive. I have a feeling I would have felt the same about the Jag too. Personally i think the Audi has aged better though, the lines are so clean and agree it always looks better in the flesh than in photos.
I think the S5 aged better, because most Audis of the last years are just ugly facelifts of former timeless design.
@@milhouse147 indeed. I believe Walter de Silva when he says it's the most beautiful car he ever designed.
Huh?@@milhouse147
@@markf4720 It's handsome, but beautiful, really?
@@EvoraGT430 it has an elegance when you see it in real life which doesn't come across in photos or videos. But I see what you mean as it also has a muscular stance.
Interesting comparison. I'm not sure it's a comparison I entirely agree with, as the XK was designed and produced from the ground up to be a GT car and the S5 is really just an A4 in a pretty frock. But it is pretty.
No mention either of either appreciation/depreciation and I think this is where the XK nicks it for me. See these two cars in 5 or 10yrs time and only one of them is going to be cherished in a garage imho...
I recently purchased a used 2009 S5 with the manual box. I like that the looks are a bit understated. I call it my Mustang in a business suit. I think the Jag while looking a bit special seems meh from other angles and a bit too of the moment especially in the rear with those taillights. The Jag's interior is a total let down, looks like a middle level Ford from that era. My Audi's interior is super comfortable but I do think the infotainment and MMI is overly techy. Both sound fantastic but I'm ultimately happy with my choice especially as I didn't even consider a Jag.
"meh from other angles" The XK looks special from every angle tbh.
Having owned 2 Audi's they may seem well put together (interiors are excellent) but they still fail and are expensive to repair as is the Jag. Had a gearbox bearing go on my A5 which cost me £3,800.00 to replace along with the clutch.
These are the real life owner's comments we need, cheers, hope it was reliable after that...
@@MuscleBandit No worries. And I sold it last year! Actually for more than I bought it yet with the big bills inbetween. Probably a decent car now.
I'd choose the Jaguar let's be honest the Audi is no longer special or exclusive enough nowadays. The Audi may have precision build quality but it is clinically devoid of any charisma, personality or feel-good factor its a sad car, another reason I dislike Audi is that it's now driven by chavs, lowlifes the way BMW was in the 1990s. Jaguars like Lancia are the thinking man's car more lovable driven by classy, sophisticated people with exquisite taste.
Imagine these cars in 20, 30 or 40 years hence...
The Jaguar will be cherished in someone's garage, being polished and driven on high days and holidays.
The Audi will have been scrapped.
That's true. In the interest of balance, Jaguar did not have a direct competitor for the Audi R8 in this era. The Audi R8 is just as likely to be in a collection as the Jaguar XK.
I rather think both will have gone to the scrap merchant
@@TassieLorenzo - Yes, the R8 is a completely different car and will be a future classic.
@@PeterCox-k1w - 72,000 E-type Jaguars were made and over 40,000 are still registered.
31,000 Audi 100 Coupes were made and just 1,600 are still registered.
The X150 is all aluminium with an exceptional engine, and considered one of Ian Callum's best designs, and will be a future classic - no doubt about that.
Already with three dedicated 'enthusiasts' clubs and a plethora of specialist suppliers and service agents.
When the Audi's ECU fails, a replacement won't be available or will cost more than the car is worth. Already specialist ECU's are available for the X150 at reasonable prices, with high performance chips.
Right the Jagggg will have never been driven, and the audi will have been trashed after 250k miles.
Would like to see evaluation of older porche panamera. 10- 15 years old. In particular the normal aspirated V8. These are also very expensive cars that have depreciated to affordability.
I was planning to get an S5 V8 last year but after driving a friend's mapped 3.0 diesel quattro coupe, I chose one if those instead. It's faster, easier on fuel, I use it as a daily driver, it sits at the lower tax bracket. Would love to get my hands on an RS4 B7 though, always loved those, they're a bit more expensive though. 🤷♂️ 😂.
A good one is very expensive 😎
Nice review. I'm a bit of an Audi fan myself, and that 4wd system is a real bonus on any road car. It gives grip and security when say, changing lanes at high speed on a wet motorway. I first experienced that stability on an XR4x4 Sierra. It often shows up on wet roundabouts too, when a powerful RWD car will start slipping while the 4wd hangs on nicely. I've had a bunch of these quattros since- all great cars.
This is why I own both an Audi and a Jag xk. I choose which one to drive depending on what and where I'm going, They serve different purposes
Took the 2009 Audi (pre electric steering), lowered it, replaced the control arms and tuned the turn in a little, and put sway bars front and back. Body doesn’t roll as much as it used to, and turn in is way better. It is heavy, but I haven’t found a more comfortable place to travel distances quickly. Enjoy both, and liked the review.
Interesting. Hadn’t realised you can get those with hydraulic steering? How’s the steering feel on those?
I owned a 4.2 S5 for a few years. Amazing car! But never ever did I see 25 mpg! Even when I drove it very sensible I only ever saw 21 mpg! Most of the time it was 17mpg!
I always found the Audi's very nose heavy if you were pushing on, and the interior looks like the A4 saloon that middle managers were driving so it's not for me. I've always loved Jags though so I'd have that any day.
And the jag is for old retiring types so not for me.
@@Metal05 Jag is classy so yeah, not for you
That's what I found with Audi's too, I ended up buying a 5 series instead and couldn't be happier during my ownership of it.
Agreed on the Audi nose. I liked them but they definitely felt heavy at the nose coupled with very light steering.
@@Metal05 and the biggest yobos on the road are Audi drivers. Rather have the retiree then drive a nobmobile
I drove a friends S5 when I had my X150 XKR. Engine wise it felt very linear but boring. Worst part was the steering, absolutely no feel.
That's how most Audis are, numbly awesome 😊.
I drive a 1999 Bmw E38 728I had it 5 years now its on 198,000 miles and so quiet , and i find its plenty off power its not slow and very good on fuel for a big car ,
XKR. I had a 79 XJS V12. Definitely a gt car. It would just hum down the road. I could have driven it from coast to coast no with no trouble. That is when it ran correctly. It would run beautifully on the way to work. Then I could barely make back to work from lunch. The XKR every day. Merry Christmas Jack.
Which coast to which coast? It's not far across the UK...
Well, i got an 2013 Jaguar XKR supercharge 5.0 litre, and that car is stunning. No problems, just running. 510 horse power, and what a kick in the ass when you put the foot down 😊 And the design is just an art.
Looks I know are subjective but for me the Audi S5 is stunning, making the Jag look dated, this also applies to the interior, Audi are renowned for build quality, which also was painfully apparent.
The Audi looked dated when it came out. 😂
A trip to Specsavers for you, mate! 🙂
Older Audis (and BMWs and Mercs) are endless money pits.
Two great cars which are both offer a lot of car for the money. I like the styling on both though the Audi has a nicer interior with better build quality. I like the fact that the Audi comes as a manual and is both faster, and to my ears, makes a nicer sound. Having said that, I've driven an XK many years ago and like Number 27, I was really impressed with the ride and handling whereas the Audi's I've driven have suffered from excessive understeer and numb steering so maybe I'd give the edge to the Jag just.
Who'd have thought that Jaguar could make a car that handles well, and the Germans couldn't? And while the Audi may have been the "most beautiful" car the guy has designed, it's a long way from actually being beautiful - have you seen the others in the range? Jag takes the "great looks" prize hands down. And still does - the F-Type is simply gorgeous from all angles.
@@stevemawer848 The Porsche sportscars handle perfectly well, even if the Boxster and Cayman do have some limitations from the 4 corner strut suspension which causes some issues with camber control under wheel compression or extension.
Id love the s5 solely because i didn't even know it existed (the v8 one).I saw a silver with the red interior last year.Propably one of the prettiest cars I've ever seen.
Prices on Porsche 928s are still somewhat a "bargain" for a V8 sports coupé. I think I'd take one of those over the two feature cars.
Have fun getting parts for the 928
Very interesting cars, those 928's, and quite rare these days, at least here in the uk. I've always loved them, and found them fascinating. They seemed so modern when they came out. I would want one with a manual gearbox. I don't even know if they ever came with a manual gearbox.
But ... the problem with all V8's, is the fuel costs. They are just so darn thirsty for the performance they give. Modern turbocharged engines make them look so archaic.
928s did come with 5-speed manuals but the automatics are far more common.
I’ve heard the timing chain on the Audi V8 is a $16k engine out job. It’s an interference engine, so you can’t delay that service.
Exactly what most reviewers fail to mention! Some owners of these units have had the dreaded service done only for the components to still break anyway ruining the whole engine. Double trouble!
not on this engine, the 4.2 on the s5 was changed from the previous 4.2 that did suffer timing chain issues...and it is and expensive job, the s5 4.2 v8 has a different engine code from the previous 4.2s that suffered with it
I am, in fact, looking for a pre-owned A5 Quattro coupe to replace my aging A4 Quattro 1.8 turbo.
I have a tame Audi garage to rely on, and my days of dicing up corners are pretty much over . . .
Jags are great cars I have a xf 3 liter portfolio great car only one problem with it was electrical battery monitoring system
I beleave in most cases, your best off putting about £3.5k aside to have the common problems/issues done on the S5 asap on buying, especially on these older cars, thats why VAG Technic is booked up for months.
I love the Audi for its slick looks and that glorious engine. But the steering… makes it an absolute nonstarter for me pretty much like all Audis with electronically assisted steering. I bought a 987 Boxster some years ago and that was just eye opening in terms of how much joy a naturally weighted and responsive steering rack adds to the driving experience 🤩
xk every time just looks much better
Yes up on a ramp being fixed 😂
@@andrewwaller5913 Personal experience, or ignorant bigotry? The only time mine was up on a ramp was during its annual service.
Geschmacksache.
@@stevemawer848 Jags are the most unreliable junk out there mate. The Audi will be running long after the Jag has failed its last MoT. Even in the video the Jag is described as delicate and not as well built. I think it looks dated now too.
@@andrewwaller5913but when you’re in the pub, you’re the guy explaining “I’ve got an Audi”, whilst the other guy is in “the Jaaaaag” and got you to buy the drinks after they’d left their wallet in ‘the Jaaaaag’. 😉
As much as I despise the meathead Audi image, the A5 Quattro 3.0TDI is a superb car and the S5 is a very special thing. The way they are put together is so much better. Many extra points for the manual box. Yup, the Audi.
I had the A4 V6 3.0TDI and the steering was so light and vague that I just couldn't trust it on any kind of fun road. Which was a shame because the engine was brilliant.
This. Exactly this. Why does audi do this? From a car company that makes lamborghinis and porsches, and the R8. This is what annoys me so much. They know how to make cars that steer well, and yet they deliberately make audis steer like sh*t. Because it's what their customers want, or expect, or something .... This is why I would never buy or own an audi.
Hmmm I’m biased as an RS5 owner but I just find that the jaguar design hasn’t aged as well as the S5. I considered the XKR but the interior was a turn off for me. Again, it just hasn’t aged that well. Although the A5 is an old car, the interior still looks pretty fresh and interesting. I’m sure that the jaguar will end of being more of a cherished classic than the S5 in time, though.
The Jag's design has aged well. It's a timeless classic for sure. Thank you, Sir Ian Callum!
I'm an Audi man - just sold an A6 TDi SE which I'd run for 13 years and 332,000 miles, original engine, never let me down and not a speck of corrosion, and bought an A6 40TDi S Line Avant. My mate's a Jag man, 3 low-mileage classics, XJR, S Type R and a 1963 E Type series 1 FHC, plus a daily driver XF Sportbrake 3.0D Portfolio. I'd agree that the XK is a better looker than the S5, but comparing the build qualities of My Audi and his Jags, the Audi's in a different league on his own admission, not only the interior but even things like the plastic undertrays which are about 3 times as thick on the Audi, and corrosion protection which is terrible on the Jags by comparison. All his Jags are beautiful (with the exception of the S-Type R which I've always thought are ugly), but the main difference is that, although his 3 classics do less than 1,000 miles a year each and the XF about 9,000, my A6 which lives outside and does 25,000 miles a year is totally reliable whereas he has issues with every one of his Jags, even though they hardly get used and are garaged. Jaguar looks - wins almost every time, reliability and build quality - Audi wins hands down.
I've had both and still have the XK - your pretty much spot on - HOWEVER in the US I found the XK to be cheaper to maintain and well mostly bullet proof - the only "big" issue I've had with the XK is that the dash lifted on me - wasnt too expensive to repair - but rather annoying;.
The Jaaaag is cool but that Audi is almost perfect for me. Absolutely love the design and offcourse the quattro system makes it a beast.
I love the S5's but wish they sounded a bit "heavier" like an e39 m5...audi v8's have always sounded a bit hollow to me, like the exhaust noise is lacking character just empty v8 noise...hard to explain really. I was following a loud maserati granturismo recently and that was just insanely awesome.
Just had to say, I was looking to get an XK8 a while ago... I didn't in the end because I was a bit stingy... Nevertheless the cars I looked at were likely all early models and the interior was one thing that stuck in my mind, they were beautiful, and certainly from memory, traditional Jaguar. The interior of No.27s car doesn't fit that memory. Anyhow, I may have traded interior luxury for a better chassis if I had to choose now... Love this channel.
Mines an 06 and infotainment aside the interiors lovely and feels good quality but it’s leather and wood all over
The aluminium can be replaced with wood veneer. Takes an hour. I did it to mine having found a replacement set on eBay. Very easy no special tools required.
That is how I remember it. 🤠@@2702simmo
Dash?@@RoryWilson-o9c
The head says Audi the heart says Jag.
I would go for the xk but I have only driven the 4.2 supercharged which sounded awesome and went as fast as you need. I guess it had the better interior as well.
I looked at a Audi A8 for my business.
Dirty secret : on the Audi s8, s5, 4,2L engine, the timing chains are at the back of the engine
Good luck if you want them replaced... you must remove the engine, and maybe the transmission and the suspension. What a treat! 😁
That S5 sounds sweet! Lovely interior too and a V8 with manual gearbox should be more fun🙂
I had a 3.0 TDI A5 for 5 years and sold a few months ago, I’m currently torn between purchasing either of the two of these. I’m feeling more pushed towards the jag, but as a 26 year old I can tell the lads at the pub will have a laugh at it😂
Don’t listen to them mate if they laugh they haven’t a clue about cars
Iv got an 2008 xk in silver nothing to touch it for looks for the money Ian Callum design is timeless
I’ve got an 06 one I’m not a fan of the front end though don’t think it lets the car down . Nice looking car but not a classic looker for me
The Audi looks great....but I have to say the Jag looks better. In ten years, the Audi will look ok, maybe dated ...but the Jag will still look great. I take the Jag.
Love your stuff mate but the windows on yer jag are disgracefully dirty on this one. Would have thought a professional youtuber would have those touches sorted prior to filming.
Most people drive their cars with underpressurized tyres. Following the car manufacturers' recommendations is for soft, comfortable ride.
It is to low for handling and tyre longevity and fuel economy.
I bought Michelin tyres for all my cars for decades and the tyre store always recommended 36 psi all around to optimize them.
27 shou!d tell us the tire brand and model and size for each car be tests.
Most cars will have soft handling on Michelin tyres, Michelin tyres even the Pilot Sport 4S (apart from the BMW M star-spec ones) have very soft sidewalls. If you have Goodyear Eagle F1 Super Sport or Potenza Sport tyres you don't need such high tyre pressures as the rigidity is already there in the sidewalls. Raising tyre pressure does reduce grip at the contact patch, so it's better to have a stiff tyre instead of high pressures.
@TassieLorenzo I never had a problem with Michelines or other brands I have bought except for Pyrellies.
I put a new set on my 85 300d once, and the car swayed badly, and the rain grooves on the freeway in California made them seem unstable. Their grooves run vertically, not diagonally, and they zig zag. After a week, I took them back and traded them for another brand. I can't remember what I got now, but they did not cause the car to sway.
The salesman said Pyrelies have soft sidewalls.
@@wernerdanler2742 Yeah, Pirellis and Continentals have soft sidewalls too. It's a bit of a European tyre thing. Japanese sports tyres like Yokohama, Bridgestone, Japanese Dunlops etc tend to have nice stiff sidewalls, but it does depend on the exact tyre model -- unfortunately stiff sidewalls are going out of fashion as they are bad for rolling resistance. The made in Japan Potenza S007A sports tyres basically have rock solid sidewalls (unfortunately European market Potenza Sport is softer) and most track day tyres still have rock solid sidewalls to provide good support to the contact patch (especially at the lower air pressures that are used to increase grip on track days and racing).
My friend is American and I love how he pronounces Jaguar. I get him to say " I bought a Jaguar from Worcestershire" he just can't even get close lol.
That is the mark of a true friend 🤣🤣🤣🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
I've been driving a V8 for about seven years now, one which most of the world unfortunately missed out on: It's a 2009 FG Ford Falcon XR8 with a six speed manual, RWD, and a 290kW (388hp) 520Nm V8. If you ever come to Australia, you'd be welcome to film a video with it for your channel if it is of interest.
I think we survived, if it had been worth a wank there would have been a market for it overseas........
I really like the exterior design of the XK and it sounds so much better than my XK8 although they have the same engine, but the interior is a total miss imo. Such a shame Jaguar didn't do better in this respect - all the rest of the car is simply gorgeous and it's nice to drive too. Never could buy anything from Ingolstadt - yes, they make great cars, but thats just no competition for the Jag, sorry Audi 😉
Jag style is fabulous. Smile every time you drive.
Xk as just more special. Only owned one v8 Jag but, was way more interesting than any Audi I have ever driven.
Both very nice cars. I keep looking at those jags at the moment. Good review as ever Jack!
It depends on what you want. If you want a sporty-looking grand tourer, it's going to be the Jaguar. If you want a more reliable and probably more practical everyday car, then it's going to be the Audi. I want a Jaguar XK (X150) cabriolet.
Had an XK now for 3 months as my dads too ill to drive it and started to really like it but it’s definitely well suited as a convertible I might even buy one
I very much doubt a high performance AUDI of this age is reliable at all.
Love these videos, I have owned only one Jag and XFS and currently an Audi A7. I really like the Audi, it’s very well made and full of tech it’s lovely. But the Jag had a character that I miss, it had awful headlights and the quality was a bit patchy, but it made me feel better than the Audi ever will. And I have no real idea why
Thought you might have mentioned VED possibly insurance etc.
The Jaguar, every time, traditional British class (and Build quality), and I'm sure the various issues can be sorted with emough ££££. For me, the infotainment system doesn’t matter, as the entertainment is in enjoying the ride. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year from Christchurch New Zealand.
Hi from NZ, I'm of the opinion that Germany quality is the equal if not better, especially around that period of the vehicle productions. Certainly happy with my Audi's
@@thesollys9540 His main point is "entertainment is in enjoying the ride". And that's so true of Jaguar.
Depends whether you want to look like every other black Audi driver on the road. 😂😂 Personally I'd have the XKR in a soft top form and any colur but black. Probably a beautiful dark green, red or dark blue. Personal taste. I had an X100 soft top XKR 4.0 ltr 380bhp and it was stunning. Honestly.
08:57, It's a night and day difference, in all respects, including its manual box. Much more involving and aesthetically pleasing, very refined quality inside and out.
I wanted a cheap “modern-ish” V8 in Australia. I landed in a low km WH Holden Statesman (LWB LS1 powered GM Aus). Eats up the highway, smokes cars at the lights, and drops 11s when needed. Also likes a drop to drink about 18L/100km
The Audi’s seem to be falling into cheap botched private number plate territory eg BO55, whereas the jaguar’s seem to have kept their classiness.
The krauts can’t do class 😂😂
I daily a 2009 S5. I bought it as a daily and to be able to drive well in winter snow. It’s a different category of car than the XK.
That being said, the S5 has too many technical bits that are starting to fail with it’s age (ridiculous stuff like an oil level sensor in place of a dipstick) and it’s hardly worth the large cost of maintenance on these types of items. The actual engine and drivetrain are very stout though.
At the end of the day, if you are looking for a fun weekend car, I don’t think either of these fit the bill. The S5 while practical, is too soft and smooth to be a real sport car, the XK while fitting most of the GT bill, automatically fails with no option from the factory for a manual.
Only evenly matched if you don't have the gift of sight.
That Jag has elegance and looks the Audi can’t match.
French and Italian cars have more flair than any German car. Get the Jag
It should be remembered that the Quattro system on an Audi generally adds just ±75kg - it is not super heavy...It is simply the rest of the car's construction that really puts on the weight
"just" 75Kg?
@@EvoraGT430 a 4WD system at the time was somewhat more complex than the current Haldex type systems seen on many installations. It needed a propshaft tapping off the back of the gearbox driving a centre differential; this in turn ran two further propshafts, one fore, one aft, to two more differentials and then out through four driveshafts to the four wheels. The original Quattro system added one propshaft, one differential and two driveshafts rather than two diffs, two propshafts and two driveshafts. Thus the claim that it added no more that 75 kg which for an inline 4WD system is not a major weight increase. These days, it it probably less, with the use of lighter metals and advanced construction techniques, and with Haldex systems, it was always going to be less.
I owned the Audi S5 coupe with the fast triptronic. I really miss this car. The design with those classic Audi wheels looks so sleak and classic.
I miss my Audi S5 coupe. I will own it again.
The car was nice as a daily because the na V8 with lauder exhaust was sweaten your day and made you enjoy your day more. The All wheel drive was good for winter that's why I also was using this Audi for ski trips.
But traveling with 4 persons is kind of not so good. The space in the 2nd row is better than the jaguar but not comfortable enough for more than 2 hours of drive.
I would take the jaguar with a supercharger. But with the waker engine I would take the Audi.
Must say, the interiors of these two are like night and day. The XK reeks of.... 'Blandness : By Ford'. The Audi, in terms of scanning what's in front of you as you drive, feels like it would be a really nice place to be. Everything else, for me it's the Jaguar all the way through. The Audi is just another Audi. Meh.
I’ve had an S4 cabriolet for 11 years. It’s 17 years old and is ridiculously fast. The only downside is the road tax at £695.
I had an A5 , but the updated model 8.5 . Liked it better with led lights.
These are 2 cars I'm considering as a daily when I eventually sell my Maserati 4200 and my boring daily. My conclusion is that the Audi will be a better daily driver but the xk would be the only one I'd choose to drive over any my classics during the summer months. It'll be easier to maintain and ultimately keep on the road as well I'd of thought
I know a guy who has that Audi and did mods on mine - his has a slight tune and goes like the clappers.
In ireland the motor tax on both of those is north of a grand and a half.😂❤❤
They are gas guzzlers!
Brilliant video! I love searching through classifieds for quirky affordable cars that will make the neighbours' heads shake in disapproval 😂. I know they are a bit more expensive, but you could also feature two cars that I personally went for - the Maserati Gransport 4.2 (2004-2007) and the Granturismo S 4.7 (2009-2017, the BEST sounding V8 ever)
I agree with the sound of the gran turismo s
Both are great cars with great design. I prefer the Interieur of the Audi though but I am not sure if the cost of maintaining these two classics is in favor of the AUDI in the long run
all i can say is this as an XK owner a lot of folk think the XK is an Aston as it was designed by the same person as DB9 its a poor mans aston but i am happy with that
How many RUclipsrs have drove this car now!? Wish I hadnt entered the comp to win it now.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! I look forward to more great videos in 2024! 🙂
"I had a problem with my discount cost Jaguar car"... Not getting to the bottom of that problem and then referring to it in later videos, is VERY poor reporting! Please try a bit harder?
Looked at the XK and an Audi (an S8 admittedly) when wanted to change from my R129 SL500, but was put off the Jag by reliability issues and the Audi by the fact that the timing gear is at the rear of the engine under the scuttle panel, so engine out to get at it. Ultimately went for an '06 R230 SL500. Looks a million dollars, goes really well AND has the added benefit of the vario roof (mine with the panoramic glass option). No scuttle shake with the roof down and still looks a million dollars. Use it as a daily driver and love it. 😎
The XK though 😍
For the money I'd rather pay a bit extra and buy a Maserati 4200 Coupe (bias as I own one), but half decent examples can now be had from £8500. Better looking, better sounding, more reliable, more fun
and a £2000 clutch to worry about
Are they really more reliable? genuine question, always fancied one myself as they look fantastic value and are simply gorgeous on the eye but have never pulled the trigger as was scared of the huge repair costs when it goes belly up.
@@slacko1971 I paid £8k for mine in May. It's an 04 manual and while it seemed like a bargain at the time as mechanically sound, I'd massively underestimated the cost of paintwork. So at £8k if anything I slightly overpaid. I'm currently into it for about £14k which is nearing the top end of what I'm willing to spend making it look the part as it's knocking on Gransport prices. But it gets a wealth of compliments, sounds awesome, pleasure to drive etc. and by all accounts the engine is bulletproof. I've noticed nicer examples tend to crop up in Northern Ireland as I believe their road tax is extortionate, so you can probably get a decent one for sub £10k if willing to travel. If buying on the mainland I probably wouldn't touch anything for much less than £12k. If you were looking at getting one I'd recommend joining the SportsMaserati forum as you'll inevitably see the decent well sorted examples crop up before the likes of Autotrader etc. If you want one you're generally going to want one with the heater matrix replaced or clutch replaced. As per my earlier comment control arms are expensive and they're not serviceable. Although there is a guy in Aus who has manufactured his own and I think they come to about £4k for the full rear set Vs £2k per arm or something ridiculous from Maserati.
@@slacko1971 I've always wanted one too but on looking into the cost of ownership and more specifically parts, I too am reluctant to pull the trigger. The gransport was maserati fine tuning the 4200 into what it should've been at factory launch however they go for sometimes more than twice as much as the 4200 based on for sale ads today. The clutch is very expensive on either, as are some other parts and anecdotally speaking, there can be problems getting hold of some parts, particularly electrical.
Nevertheless I would love to get a gransport but every time I pursuade myself to I remind myself that I don't want to have to spend a 4 figure sum to replace a clutch, ever.
@@olusphone personally I prefer the lines of the original GT however it is very much a tourer. The power is there when you need on the straights but the manual gearbox feels like an afterthought as any element of rapid '
through the gears acceleration/twisty road requires an element of pre-planning. i.e. it won't go into 2nd until it's warmed up, 3rd to 4th feels forced at which point all momentum is lost. It really is like they put a truck gearbox with a motorbike engine so for the most part I tend to only change gear when absolutely necessary. I can't speak for the Cambiocorsa as I gather that is very jolty but possible the Gransport ironed out a lot of these issues 🤷. This is my first Maserati and I'm definitely a convert despite the quirks, the cars are worth it for the engine alone.
the jag looks special, audi looks like any old audi
if you are going to waste a shit-load of money on petrol every week, it needs to look good...
keep it up young man
The Jag any day. There's a million of those same Audis all over LA. I see maybe one XK every few weeks here in LA. I'll never get rid of my 2009 XKR Portfolio, by far the best car I've ever owned and I still think it's one of the most beautiful cars on the road. The Jag interior is a bit delicate, but it's gorgeous.
The Audi’s are on the road because they are still running. I had a Jag S Type R for 4 years and the repair costs were insane and I was unable to do the work my self (torque converter and drive shaft). People usually just trash the jags, hence you not seeing them.
09:42, Different cars for different markets. You only have to look at the two appreciably different roof lines to tell you they aren't the same categories. One rides much lower than tother..
Further, how many miles has that Audi done versus the Jaguar (how has it been typically driven).?
Are suspension, steering linkages, anti-roll bars and so on in order? Difficult to compare two much lesser than new cars in that regard alone if those aspects haven't been adequately maintained (same issue with vintage Hi-Fi amp comparisons)..
It's an Audi, which for me shouts Group B, S1 rallying, Pikes' Peak, Audi 200 Trans Am racing, Audi 90 IMSA racing ( (( total dominance )) ) Walter Rohrl, Stig Blomqvist, Michele Mouton, Hans Stuck.. Oh, don't forget Le Mans 24hrs.. They don't need telling how to sort a chassis/setup. So compare like for like please.
Honorable mention for the BMW e62/3 645/650. Not a well loved car due to the looks but, would be a good match for the jag and Audi and can be had for 5 to 10k
You mean E63 (coupé) / E64 (cabrio). They've definitely aged well, and the 630i is punchy enough and fairly reliable as compared to the V8 powered 645/650.
Last point. If i am buying a classic car to do a couple of thousand miles in then why so I want to pat nearly £700 in road tax. That would alter the eay I use it and I would only use it for 2 or 3 months a year.
Imagine the blaze of check engine lights..... would look like bonfire night from a distance
If you hold the traction control button for 10 seconds it will turn the traction all the way off on the Jag
Suprised you didn't include the Jaguar XFR. Can be had for peanuts now and mine regularly eats S5's for breakfast.
The Jaguar XFR is a gorgeous animal 😍.
I'd go for the Jag any day. Sadly, here in Spain you'd pay 20,000€ for a decent one, even the basic model ☹️
Get one imported. They sell for around £7-10k here. Import to Spain for probably £1500
Always wanted a jag convertible
But rare in germany. So i went for a e93 and e64 then