Serica 5303 side by side its Homage IX&DAO Ipose - Which is better?

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  • Опубликовано: 29 окт 2024

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  • @WATCHingJames
    @WATCHingJames  Год назад +9

    Thanks again to Jason from Houtman watches for letting me get hands on with his Serica. It was so interesting to put it side by side with my Homage of it.

  • @watchalot919
    @watchalot919 Год назад +12

    I own the Ipose, and have done my own review on it. It really is an incredible watch, and not just at the budget price, honestly it's incredibly well made. I prefer the bezel action on the Ipose, but that's subjective. In brief, it's impossible to justify the extra for the Serica. Tandoria now homage the homage, LOL.

    • @WATCHingJames
      @WATCHingJames  Год назад +4

      It really is impressive and was really interesting putting next to the original

  • @ogramail
    @ogramail Год назад +13

    Thanks James. I own also the Ipose with the ETA movement. I chose the homage because of the initial QC problems with the Serica and I do love it. However, to be completely honest, you should mention that Serica has incepted a new version of its watch with a COSC movement and an antimagnetic case, which break the balance with Ipose in my opinion.

    • @WATCHingJames
      @WATCHingJames  Год назад +6

      I did see that they are using a cosc movement now but I found it a bit unclear if the issues had been resolved.

  • @onawku
    @onawku 11 месяцев назад +5

    I have the new COSC edition, everything is fine and quality is superb.

    • @WATCHingJames
      @WATCHingJames  11 месяцев назад +1

      I’m really happy to see they have made that change.

    • @lgomezmiami
      @lgomezmiami 21 день назад +1

      @@onawku just got mine yesterday. 😍 It's the perfect size. Only thing I didn't realize is that the hands are white. In all the pics they looked brushed to me for some reason. But makes sense for legibility. Enjoy it!

  • @markmahood3093
    @markmahood3093 Год назад +3

    Waiting for mine too arrive! Glad I saved the money and went with the homage.

    • @WATCHingJames
      @WATCHingJames  Год назад +2

      The Seica is a lovely watch. But I do prefer the Homage.

  • @andrewchanws
    @andrewchanws Год назад +5

    4 times the difference in price, with the expensive watch having a movement with (ahem) "character".. I think the choice is clear. I chuckled when you slightly paused before mentioning the words "inherent characteristics" :p

  • @pierremclean8504
    @pierremclean8504 Год назад +2

    I was prepared to lay out the full amount on a Serica. I waited 1 1/2 years for them to fix or change their movement… finally I bought the watch which I was waiting for from the start a “Serica” with a proper Swiss movement: the IPose E.T.A. The purpose of a watch is to keep accurate time and I don’t see why I should be “forced” to compromise on this core function?? So thank you IPose for giving us what Serica stubbornly refused to fix: a time piece that keeps time accurately👍

    • @WATCHingJames
      @WATCHingJames  Год назад +3

      It is amazing that we get these choices. It is a shame that the Serica did not choose to change.

  • @JohnBowman-ut4dz
    @JohnBowman-ut4dz Год назад +2

    Hi james thanks for doing a comparison video between original and homage I did ask you a few weeks ago I don't know if that's why you did it but it was a very good comparison video. Thanks John.

    • @WATCHingJames
      @WATCHingJames  Год назад +1

      Thanks John. I hope it was helpful. It was very interesting to have them in hand and put them side by side.

  • @turnbasedtoddy7664
    @turnbasedtoddy7664 7 месяцев назад +1

    This was a great video. It was really helpful. One thing I did notice was something is going on with the shutter speed of your camera I think. I noticed the video looks very choppy. I think in the end I would go with the original just because I think what makes that watch special is how small it looks. We don’t get very many small dive Watches these days and that small dial paired with the small dimensions is just something very unique.

  • @daynevickers1079
    @daynevickers1079 3 месяца назад +1

    I own the IPose in dark blue bezel, and I absolutely love it! I looked at the Serica 5303, but could not come near to justifying the additional expense of it (about $1300+). Like you said, only fractional differences in everything but the price! You and I made a great choice! The only thing I wish they had done would have been to put their beautifully styled logo on the dial. Then, it would be perfect IMHO!

  • @julianb1474
    @julianb1474 Год назад +4

    Even more recently I saw a review of the homage to the homage - made by Tandorio for around $80 US, and it's not bad. Perhaps you should review all three !! ALSO the IPOSE comes with a PT5000 movement as well which is the one i would buy, and you did not discuss.

    • @WATCHingJames
      @WATCHingJames  Год назад +1

      This was more of a side by side comparison.
      I chose to buy the SW200 version of the Ipose and when I do the full review I will be talking more about the movement options for it.
      Thanks for watching.

  • @K_j_M
    @K_j_M Год назад +3

    The differences wouldn't ever be noticed at the glance, which is what anyone would only see in reality. I do like the more refined case of the Serica though. Not enough in the differences to question my decision in buying the homage
    Great video James. Well worth waiting for

    • @WATCHingJames
      @WATCHingJames  Год назад +2

      Thank you. The Serica is definitely a nice watch. But I think I made the right decision

    • @K_j_M
      @K_j_M Год назад

      ​@@WATCHingJamesas did we all if the comments are anything to go by haha

  • @watchsixto
    @watchsixto Год назад +2

    That awesome you got the real to compare them. The Seirca looks better, but the homage isn't too bad

    • @WATCHingJames
      @WATCHingJames  Год назад +2

      It was great to get both in hand and put them side by side

  • @darrenfry4695
    @darrenfry4695 Год назад +3

    Great show james , personally id go with the homage only because i dont like the watch that much to spend a lot of money on it..plus today some homages are even better than the real thing

    • @WATCHingJames
      @WATCHingJames  Год назад +2

      They certainly are. It’s just nice to have the options available to us. Especially when on a budget

    • @darrenfry4695
      @darrenfry4695 Год назад

      @@WATCHingJames yes exactly, cheers James

    • @rdvgrd6
      @rdvgrd6 10 месяцев назад

      Good for you paying for a Chinese rip off. By doing that you promote the end of innovation and good design by encouraging stealers

  • @thegorn
    @thegorn Год назад +2

    A white dial always appears bigger than the equivalent sized black dial. At 1/4 of the price for basically the same level of enjoyment if not more, then I'd say you made the right choice. At the end of the day - it's what we enjoy that dictates the correctness of any decision.

    • @WATCHingJames
      @WATCHingJames  Год назад +2

      That’s exactly how I feel. I love it and am really happy we actually get the choice as well.

  • @bozosni
    @bozosni 2 месяца назад +1

    Hi there! Nice presentation as always. I don't know if you still have one of these watches but i am trying to find it's bezel insert dimensions ( the one of the clone i mean)with no luck. I would appreciate any info ❤

    • @WATCHingJames
      @WATCHingJames  2 месяца назад +2

      Sorry. I have let that one go.

    • @bozosni
      @bozosni 2 месяца назад

      @@WATCHingJames No worries. Thank you for the response!

  • @jamesw5763
    @jamesw5763 Год назад +7

    I own both. Received the Serica 5303-3 chrono about a month ago. Ipose several months prior to Serica.Wore the ipose pretty much daily for months. Same with the Serica for the month Ive owned her.
    The Ipose has many issues: Bezel alignment, brushing, Transition quality and finishing is below even San Martin standards.
    My particular Serica is Worlds better than the Ipose homage that I received, In every way other than lume. After comparing both watches in every way I could, thats the ONLY thing the Ipose has an edge on, and thats only because everything is about 20% bigger on the Ipose face including indeces, etc.
    For the roughly $400 spent, I feel the Ipose is really pushing it. The quality just isnt there. Everything seems to be finished to a "good enough" standard. The most stand-out feature of the Ipose is the bracelet for sure. But compare bracelets on both watches in hand and its so obvious the Serica is just another level.
    I may or may not keep the Ipose in white-ish.Its a good looking watch (obviously, they copied a beauty), but I really get no pride of ownership feeling from it.
    I understand money is most peoples motivation to go toward the ipose and other Homage or outright fake watches, but this Ipose has sealed it for me... No more Ali-Express watches. I could have bought a single watch that gives me true pride of ownership instead of owning pieces filled with compromises trying to pose as something they are not. Auto industry is full of buyers compromising constantly... "this cars handling is just like a BMW". Well, I'm going for the Bimmer from now on.
    Finances rule, and thats an unfortunate fact of life.

    • @WATCHingJames
      @WATCHingJames  Год назад +1

      Owning the original is generally going to be the best option if finances allow for it.
      I am just happy that there are so many options out there for us to enjoy.

    • @canadianwatchmonkey3992
      @canadianwatchmonkey3992 11 месяцев назад

      I have owned the Serica and it is nice watch no doubt but the movement choice was a poor decision. I know own the IX&DAO and it is in my opinion very close to the quality of the Serica but with a better movement and the addition of the date at 6 is a nice bonus

  • @songoku-jx3cb
    @songoku-jx3cb 4 месяца назад +1

    Making a homage of a micro brand is crazy to me . Its a testament to how influential serica has become on such a small time scale

  • @karepy
    @karepy Год назад +1

    Have you tried the new movement that is cosc certified? I just bought it and it’s a totally different animal with the blue greenish ceramic dial.

    • @WATCHingJames
      @WATCHingJames  Год назад +2

      Not yet. I have had my eye on them and have heard positive things.

  • @davidcooper8621
    @davidcooper8621 Год назад +1

    Just come across your channel, very impressed. Interested in this comparison as I am wearing the Tandorio homage to the homage. 40mm NH35A, Dome Sapphire Crystal Screw Crown Automatic Mechanical Watch with 200 metres of water resistance in that colour ray. A delight to wear and in the recent sale, £63, what's not to like

    • @WATCHingJames
      @WATCHingJames  Год назад +1

      I’ve had my eye on that one too. It looks great and Tandorio has some of the best value watches I’ve come across.

  • @MichaelV89
    @MichaelV89 9 месяцев назад

    Thanks for the comparison James

  • @bateraum
    @bateraum Год назад +1

    I do own the Serica in black and I absolutely love the dimensions, so much so that I wanted to get the white ipose, but I the dial size and overall proportions looked kinda off in the pictures and you just confirmed it, that kills it for me :/

    • @WATCHingJames
      @WATCHingJames  Год назад +1

      I’m really happy that I could help. It is hard to compare watches without a side by side.

  • @hedwu2505
    @hedwu2505 4 месяца назад +1

    Are the two bracelets interchangeable?

    • @WATCHingJames
      @WATCHingJames  4 месяца назад +2

      I did not try. So not sure sorry.
      I don’t have access to the Serica anymore so can’t give it a go now.

    • @hedwu2505
      @hedwu2505 4 месяца назад +1

      @WATCHingJames no worries thanks for responding.

  • @deephousedave
    @deephousedave Год назад +1

    Hi. I bought the Tandorio ( white dial), which I'm totally pleased with ( 4 times cheaper than the ipose!! 😱) and am currently wearing on a black bund strap while I wait for the ipose strap to arrive. Looks proper badass.
    Whilst checking out reviews about them I came across the fact that boyh the ipose and Tandorio only have 3 minute markers between the 5 minute markers from 40-60 on the bezel!! Hadn't noticed ( embarrassingly enough) but yeah. Did you miss that? 😂.
    Maybe that's how they get around the copyright (" no-one 'll notice " 😉 ).

    • @deephousedave
      @deephousedave Год назад +1

      Ah yeah. Took the NH35 mvt rather than PT5000 option. Pretty sure they all come from the same factory anyways 😉👍

    • @WATCHingJames
      @WATCHingJames  Год назад +2

      I’m a big fan of the Tandorios. I’ve owned a few from them and they have all been fantastic and super affordable

    • @WATCHingJames
      @WATCHingJames  Год назад +2

      They probably do 😂😂😂

  • @EdBrock785
    @EdBrock785 Год назад +1

    Hi James,that’s a very interesting Video,thanks a lot 👍🏻.

  • @andrewgreene3065
    @andrewgreene3065 8 месяцев назад +1

    This is one I will feel most guilty about. I fell in love with Serica’s design a couple years ago when I stumbled across the brand and I’ve wanted one ever since. In my case, it does come down to affordability. Luckily, It’s very rare to find a “homage” this similar to the original so that’s pretty cool. Still feel guilty as hell..

    • @WATCHingJames
      @WATCHingJames  8 месяцев назад +1

      I understand that too
      Thanks for WATCHing

  • @villagranvicent
    @villagranvicent Месяц назад +1

    It is a clonage... Excellent video!!

  • @adk7962
    @adk7962 Год назад +1

    There are not a lot of originals out there that are 5 times or 10 times or 20 times better than a high end Chinese “Homage.” I know a lot of people consider the Ipose as a clone because there is no branding on the Serica. I think most people who wants to and can afford the original will always get the original. Anyway. Thanks for the great comparison.

    • @WATCHingJames
      @WATCHingJames  Год назад +1

      I think so too. It’s great that we have the options available.

  • @scatterbrain9490
    @scatterbrain9490 Год назад +1

    Moving in a few days, I'll catch up when things calm down 😎

  • @tonyalbrecht7169
    @tonyalbrecht7169 Год назад +3

    the difference in quality is hardly visible.

  • @Horizontalvertigo
    @Horizontalvertigo Год назад +3

    At least to me, it's pretty obvious which is the homage. The original's a much more holistic design, it all works together and seems exceptionally well thought out from a design perspective, whereas the homage has just cribbed the homework without capturing that "everything in proper ratio to everything else" vibe that the original possesses. It's got the look without the soul of the piece. I'm sure the homage is a fine watch, and honestly the problems Serica's had with their movements puts me off them a bit.

    • @WATCHingJames
      @WATCHingJames  Год назад +3

      The Serica really is lovely. It’s obviously when you have it in hand.
      But it is amazing how nice the homage is as well.

  • @pjmq
    @pjmq Год назад +1

    This makes *even less* sense than I'd originally thought, I assumed the factory responsible for manufacturing the Serica had just started churning out the homage watches themselves for a few 3rd parties using the same fab, tooling and mould used when manufacturing the Serica but that doesnt seem to be the case.
    Why would a Chinese company invest this much into manufacturing a homage of a little-known microbrand to this level of finish without their being parts available (as we see with Ali brands reusing rep watch parts to create homages) or there being significant demand? it's mind-boggling.

    • @WATCHingJames
      @WATCHingJames  Год назад +3

      I think they have sold a lot of them so has turned out to be a good idea for them.
      But is very interesting that they chose to make this one rather than a bigger better known brand.
      Maybe it actually gives us a bit of an insight into how cheap it actually is to produce watches.

  • @giancarloliucci4104
    @giancarloliucci4104 Год назад +1

    Hai senz' altro preso la decisione giusta. Quelle lievi differenze di finitura dopo 2 mesi di utilizzo non ci saranno più. Invece movimento, data e quadrante più efficace conteranno

  • @matricious
    @matricious Год назад +1

    Tandorio also makes one now,
    not many reviews on it atm

    • @K_j_M
      @K_j_M Год назад +1

      Yea, 80 quid for a PT5000 is insane

    • @WATCHingJames
      @WATCHingJames  Год назад +2

      I saw that one recently. Looks like a great affordable option

    • @WATCHingJames
      @WATCHingJames  Год назад +2

      That’s Tandorio for you. Insane value.

    • @96kyh
      @96kyh Год назад +1

      @@WATCHingJames Now you've got to do the Tandorio vs Ix and Dao comparison....

  • @theunsureavenger
    @theunsureavenger Год назад +4

    I’ve said this elsewhere, it’s fine to own these watches, i own a steeldive but people should be honest with themselves. It’s a copy and NOT a homage. I’m not sure why people continue to try dance around the fact that these companies are copying the original. Calling it a homage just because it’s not got the brand name on the dial is something someone made up to make themselves feel better. It’s a blatant copy. Regardless of what lies people tell themselves. As I said no issue with it, I own a copy from steeldive of the Seiko Willard but as I say, it’s a COPY, no doubt about that.

    • @WATCHingJames
      @WATCHingJames  Год назад +2

      It is an interesting conversation. I often think about watches from the past and wonder if they were copying each other or were they homages. Or was it just the style at the time.

    • @theunsureavenger
      @theunsureavenger Год назад

      @@WATCHingJames i suppose it’s a case by case thing but with these companies nowadays like IX&DAO it’s clearly a copy as that serica is certainly not the style or trend of designs we see usually.

    • @andrewd7586
      @andrewd7586 11 месяцев назад

      It’s not a copy. It’s not a replica. If it was it would be exactly branded Serica. It would be exactly the same dimensions. It would have a copy movement. It has nothing of these. It’s a homage. 🥱

    • @theunsureavenger
      @theunsureavenger 11 месяцев назад

      @@andrewd7586 right a homage 😂 I hope you’re joking. But if you aren’t then keeping telling yourself that.

  • @rayintheforest
    @rayintheforest Год назад +2

    The only problem is the pricing... if the price was out of the equation, I'd go with the original without hesitation. It just has something to it that the homage doesn't have. More refined, better balanced, everything fits together seamlessly.. etc. As someone else said, it has a soul. It's good and soulful enough to be your only watch, a life companion.
    The homage is very good indeed, finished to a high standard, and the price... hand down the price is the biggest factor with it. But it's not good enough to be the only watch someone possesses. It's good as an occasional lighthearted watch within a big collection.

    • @WATCHingJames
      @WATCHingJames  Год назад +1

      It was great to have both in hand and see the differences. Both are great watches and it is great that we get the options.

    • @rayintheforest
      @rayintheforest Год назад +1

      @@WATCHingJames Totally! We as watch enthusiasts need the options that homage watches and wonderful places like the watch world of aliexpress provide. How boring it would be If the watch world only consisted of over-priced original Swiss and Japanese brands. I'm really thankful to all the options that places like aliexpress or micro brands provide! Thank you as always for the great content. Really interesting to see the two watches next to each other!

  • @pokpokkia
    @pokpokkia 3 месяца назад +2

    For all the haters. If we spin it in a positive perspective. Sercia produced poor watches v1 and didn’t handled it well.
    So now someone copied their design and fixed the movement issues and fixed the price issue.
    The people that got the “homage” may just buy the real sercia v4 or v5 years down the road.
    The way I see it sercia gotta retaliate in producing better quality to command the 4x price and differentiate themselves.
    I personally like the look of sercia and proportions and if I were to get one I’ll get the original. But I’m gonna wait till they sort it out. Paying that price and not able to hack properly is a no no. They sound like a better version of zodiac looks good but movement sucks.
    Zodiac finish looks worst than this. Movement is worst not just hacking the screw down and winding is horrible. Sometimes engaged sometimes not engaged. (And I own 3 of them they are beautifully designed thou. But will not recommend to anyone)
    China pls copy zodiac and make them clean up their act they behave like a fashion brand.
    So guys moral of the story is sercia isn’t that bad if you compare to a zodiac haha. “Homage” or copies can make the brand do better. And if you are the one copying you will copy something nice right? Haha

  • @adamant262
    @adamant262 Год назад +1

    You could put the salita in the seraca

  • @Em3rith
    @Em3rith 5 месяцев назад +2

    You said homage, I say counterfeit. Plus Serica is a small company. Buying counterfeit sucks, but when it's a small and independent company it's disgusting. If you want a watch buy it if you can or buy other objects cheaper with an original idea. Why do people want to appear socially higher than they are with fake objects. I don't understand.

    • @WATCHingJames
      @WATCHingJames  5 месяцев назад +1

      I’ve made a video specifically about this Ipose talking about that.

  • @johnmonachelli5256
    @johnmonachelli5256 Год назад +2

    Love the fabrique en chine

  • @oliviersebastian1516
    @oliviersebastian1516 4 месяца назад +1

    Microphone is bad, nice review

    • @WATCHingJames
      @WATCHingJames  4 месяца назад +1

      Check out my newer video. I think I’ve sorted the sound now.
      Thanks for WATCHing

  • @naomiredpath4351
    @naomiredpath4351 Год назад +2

    👍

  • @sebastiannix5033
    @sebastiannix5033 8 месяцев назад +2

    So You bought a rip off from a brand called "I pose"?!

    • @WATCHingJames
      @WATCHingJames  8 месяцев назад +1

      Hahahaha. I found that funny too

  • @TXLogic
    @TXLogic 21 день назад +1

    That Ipose hour hand is ridiculously stubby.

  • @bestboy897
    @bestboy897 7 месяцев назад +1

    Serica definitely looks more refined and of a higher quality but barely tbh .

    • @WATCHingJames
      @WATCHingJames  7 месяцев назад +2

      There are good arguments for both watches.
      I’m just happy we have both to choose from.

  • @maxdenb
    @maxdenb 10 месяцев назад +24

    I am surprised that you completely ignore the fact that what is called a 'homage' in reality should be called a 'rip off'. Serica is a small, independent company that spends a lot of time developing beautiful watches. Chinese factories copy the design without putting in any effort - stealing intellectual property. There is no love there, the Chinese just want your money. Buying a rip off kills companies like Serica. If you truly enjoy a beautiful timepiece, you support the maker, not the breaker.

    • @WATCHingJames
      @WATCHingJames  10 месяцев назад +16

      I’ve actually made an entire video about that. Which is why I did not feel I needed to talk about it again.
      Thanks for WATCHing

    • @maxdenb
      @maxdenb 10 месяцев назад +2

      Well it would be worth mentioning for people (like me) just stumbling on this video alone. It must be part of the equation, if it kills the brand no new watches will come out. Buying the rip off is unethical in my opinion. @@WATCHingJames

    • @kevingilhooley2064
      @kevingilhooley2064 9 месяцев назад +2

      Totally agree....watch channels such as this, and the HWG are shameful if you ask me.

    • @robertsonlainez5770
      @robertsonlainez5770 8 месяцев назад

      I agree but not everyone can afford the Original watch. People buy replicas to at least feel or get close to what they can afford.

    • @maxdenb
      @maxdenb 8 месяцев назад

      @@robertsonlainez5770 thats a shame, cause it kills the company. If you love watches, buy one real one, not five knock offs.

  • @ExterminateTheBrutes
    @ExterminateTheBrutes Год назад +5

    It's not a homage. It's a copy.

  • @sysakPL
    @sysakPL Год назад +3

    Hate "hommages" scummy practice to take a design someone spent time and money to create and deliver something unique and just make a copy of a finished product. Especially if it's done to a small underdog type brand rather than a big established corporation.

    • @WATCHingJames
      @WATCHingJames  Год назад +1

      Thanks for WATCHing

    • @lroy666
      @lroy666 Год назад

      dirty chink rip off..made in china in french on the dial..ffs!!! @@WATCHingJames

  • @jc.baptiste
    @jc.baptiste 7 месяцев назад +1

    Homage ? LoL
    Call it for what it is, a counterfeit.
    You should never promote it.
    Think about it: a young, small and fragile company invests a lot of time, efforts and finances into developing something unique and tries to sell it to retrieve its investment.
    Then, a Chinese factory copies it in no time and produces it, cutting the costs with social dumping (life cost in France vs China) and saving all the research and development process.
    Utterly disgusting.
    Much worse than doing it against an established multinational company like Rolex.
    It's a shame.

    • @WATCHingJames
      @WATCHingJames  7 месяцев назад +2

      Thanks for WATCHing

    • @jc.baptiste
      @jc.baptiste 7 месяцев назад

      @@WATCHingJames That’s… short.
      You don’t care, ok.

  • @lgomezmiami
    @lgomezmiami 22 дня назад +1

    This is absurd.

  • @piotrszmidel
    @piotrszmidel Год назад +4

    This aint homage but a copy

  • @an-h9808
    @an-h9808 7 месяцев назад +1

    Beautiful watch

  • @KillingTimeWithNorman
    @KillingTimeWithNorman Год назад +1

    Very interesting seeing them side by side! Great video! 🍸🍸

    • @WATCHingJames
      @WATCHingJames  Год назад +1

      I found it really interesting having them both.

  • @pilou6457
    @pilou6457 Год назад +1

    Beautiful video and watche....