Thanks a ton for breaking down the repair cost! Ive being using the help of your knowledge to repair my own vehicles and always get asked to help with others cars but I’m not really good with giving estimates. If you can continue to include this information I’m sure many others can also benefit, again thanks a lot and I’m here to learn more
Thanks so much for the comment and letting me know you appreciate the break down. There is certainly alot of info I can share on that topic. I will incorporate a bit in each video and maybe a video devoted to the topic. Thanks for watching!
I work for a high volume direct repair program (DRP) brand, and we are charging 68-70/hr for body and paint labor. You are getting mighty screwwed with only 54/hr on body and paint labor. I suggest negotiate to at least minimum of 60/hr for body and paint labor if you're an independent, say no less. The adjuster has to abide by you since the customer has already chosen you as the repair center of choice.
Every area is different. Just like rent and anything else . I’m a FIRM believer in charger a higher rate for cars like Mercedes, Audi , Porsche, Land Rover etc. I hear shops are doing that now. Shops have to stand together and stop undercutting each other to appease the insurance companies though. I see that alot “oh well billy down the road said their rate is xxx “ then take it to them
@@rickymarin2545go independent man if your a panel beater minimum should be at least $25hr since they probably charge $60 hr. Now if your just a masker and prepper then expect to be paid that
Thank you so much for sharing the information. This job looked pretty good, just like your other jobs. Appreciate your videos. Like i advised you in one of my previous comments, I am in similar trade, now fourth year in running. I run a small workshop as a body shop based in Midlands, in UK. I repair about ten cars a week. I do not take large collision repairs, but small to medium panel dents, scratches etc. I make my revenue to about £2500 a week, overheads for workshop gets paid out of this. I always feel that there are not enough hours in a day. I get a good satisfaction at the end of the day, when i am able to deliver the car back to the owner, nice and shiney, how it may have been looking before the damage.
Thanks for giving me a baseline of how these numbers look like! I really enjoy your videos and learned a lot, especially like this one that shares inside information on numbers.
$65 for a bumper cover and $25 for a grill? Amazing prices. A lot of your profit came from being able to source the parts for a good price. Us diy folks would have to at least pay double for the bumper cover and probably close to $100 for the grill. Would love to see more videos with the price breakdowns. Was the repair cost getting close to salvage territory?
Very interesting. I didn't know that parts had a substantial markup, but I understand it is a big part of the profit. Truthfully, what I want to know is how to tell if the estimate for work not covered by insurance is fairly priced.
Love the break down on the profit for the job. That’s what I have the hardest time figuring out. Any tips you can give me on estimating and billing would be greatly appreciated. I started painting as a hobby a year ago and now I have a very small business. I’m not money motivated I just do the jobs I want and jobs that have something I haven’t done or I need practice with. Nothing leaves my garage that’s not perfect I don’t use that word loosely. Thx man great vids.
I would say quote it high. If your not using software than alot of labor is getting missed. When ever you can work off the insurance companies estimate if they have one. Generally speaking a panel should cost 500 to paint. You can always lower you price. Good luck thank's for watching!
A lot of work for not a lot of money. Plus over head and materials. I feel for you guys hope it gets better in the future as the insurance company's try to get as much for as little as they can pay for.
2 guys doing it twice that's the pinnacle of inefficiency. So funny a 40 hour job that took 40 hours.. If you were the Technician you would have made $800 before taxes, Good luck new techs😂😂😂😂😂😂
Nicely done! And oh so accurate that costs/revenue on a given job is not profit. That paying the rent and utilities and everything else comes off that first. I 'assumed' you were going to get it wrong. LOL My bad.
Are you talking about body filler over body filler? If that's the case you want an 80 scratch to apply filler over. Apply glazing putty over 180. Appreciate the comment
This was so insightful! I am looking to become a paint sprayer apprentice. May I ask if this were a luxury car like a rolls royce, lamborghini, maserati etc would you have been paid more for the work? I am trying to gauge whether there is more money to be made based on the vehicle or if there is a standard rate across the board
Body work sucks , the insurance company writes a bullshit estimate, the company writers want the technician to tear it down write all the damage down and hand it to the writer so they can copy and order the wrong parts , wrong side, when it’s there job to write supplements, meen while the tech is flat rate and doesn’t get paid anything to write supplements . I did bodywork for 40 years and it’s a hard job that the insurance companies regulate the labor rate , my advice if your young is don’t make it a career.
I agree that insurance companies controlling the labor rates is criminal but I do feel young guys can make a good living as a tech and there's alot of satisfaction in the work. Appreciate you take and the support.
Great job and thank you for the breakdown Can you tell what grit was you using for bumper I am pritty sure you said 600 and also did you dry sand or wet sand thank you for the video
Never quoted one. There's too many variables it depends on how in depth your going but just as a reference for a standard full paint job I charge around 10,000 with some minor body work. Appreciate the support!
Chris what “grit “ belt do you prefer using on that band file to grind thru factory spot welds? Kool video!Thanks for your time and energy making these videos 👍
Been an employee doing bodywork for 10 years just recently started paining and so now i work for a guy that flips classic cars. He buys the materials i use my tools and paint cars .. i charge him by the job first i started cheap kuz i didnt have a lot of experience painting and also giving prices so no i feel like im getting f for example i only charge him 400 to buff a flip car i buy the materials when buffing.. also to paint a chevelle i usually charge him 2800 includong buffong and fixing rust spots with fiberglass and bondo and fix little dents here and there.. also painting jambs and everything.. if i charge more he tells me some guys charge him what i charge him and he doesnt have to pay for materials which i say is bs.. idk what tp do i was gettong payed 30 an hour as an employee and with him im gettong payed between 30 to 40 alot of stress too i dont think its worth it anymore but i also gaoned a lot of experience painting and feel like i should be making more money now any advice?
I'm gonna give you some great advice for a long time. I did paint work and body work for dealerships. With dealers, you'll never make a good living doing that. The best thing I ever did was to put my business on the internet. I didn't have to create a website. I just put my business where i could be found on the internet with pictures Before & After of my work and that led to retail business. Retail business is where you wanna be. I understand that sometimes you have to do that Kind of work just to pay the bills, but get out of it as soon as you can put your efforts in getting retail business. You'll make much more money in half the time.
Let me know how it goes. P.s go above and beyond for retail customers and they'll will keep coming back and charge for your work in my area $65 an hour and 45 an hr for materials
@@milesallen5590 I start school at Lincoln Tech next month. The collision repair course is 12 months and is $28k but I’m covered through financial aid. Also I’m in Chicago. I expect to make between $40-$50k to start but after ASE certification and a few year’s experience I’ve seen jobs on indeed for auto body technicians going anywhere from $80-$150,000 here. I think you should go for it man.
If you sand it with 320 before you shouldn't have any sand scratches. If you use a fast reducer in the 2k you should be able to sand after about 2 hours with 3 decent coats.
@@Capo6200cause it's a dirty shitty job constantly breathing in terrible fumes and dust.. (money is good) but it's always a rush on every job, and the industry as a whole just sucks to work in. Do not look into the auto body career field. be an electrician, carpenter, plumber, welder, HVAC, anything other than this bullshit work.
How can you sue a auto body shop? Is it possible I took my car for a respray and bodywork done guy took 3 months to complete it and I picked the car up, once I drove back home I noticed it had a tone of small l imperfections on it hit him up and he said bring it back bro I’ll take care of you and I made a list of a bunch of things it had wrong, so he takes the care back and it’s been more than 8 months since I dropped the car off and it’s still not ready, I have a tone of messages pictures and stuff honestly I’m just tired of all his bs and he did a bunch of cars before mine so I’m wondering is it possible to sue him plus he took the car back so that’s on him.
This sounds like an excessive amount of time to get the job done. I hate to think a lawsuit is the only answer but can surely understand the frustration.
Super to see the labor and rate, also every step is in detail. Nice Job as always! (probably here in Hungary this repair would be around total 3-4 grand in a dealership)
Sometimes I do, depends on the situation. I might do a video on this. I go back a fourth on this. It can create some problems when your not spraying it a booth. In most case your right tho. Appreciate the comment and support!
NICE JOB FOR THEY PRIMER FOR STONE CHIP AS IT BACK ON THE ROAD AS STONE HIT WITH OUT DAMAGE ! SMART GUY''s ! THIS WHY THE PUBLIC NEED''s TO SEE THIS WORK < LOT USE PRIMER OR PAINT LONG WAY FROM ACRYLIC. YOU MUST WORK ON HIGH END AUTO , USE THAT WAY OF BASE AND COAT BLENDED !
Thanks a ton for breaking down the repair cost! Ive being using the help of your knowledge to repair my own vehicles and always get asked to help with others cars but I’m not really good with giving estimates. If you can continue to include this information I’m sure many others can also benefit, again thanks a lot and I’m here to learn more
Thanks so much for the comment and letting me know you appreciate the break down. There is certainly alot of info I can share on that topic. I will incorporate a bit in each video and maybe a video devoted to the topic. Thanks for watching!
I work for a high volume direct repair program (DRP) brand, and we are charging 68-70/hr for body and paint labor. You are getting mighty screwwed with only 54/hr on body and paint labor. I suggest negotiate to at least minimum of 60/hr for body and paint labor if you're an independent, say no less. The adjuster has to abide by you since the customer has already chosen you as the repair center of choice.
It's up to 58 now. Each insurance company has their own rates. I might be able to get it a bit higher.
Every area is different. Just like rent and anything else . I’m a FIRM believer in charger a higher rate for cars like Mercedes, Audi , Porsche, Land Rover etc. I hear shops are doing that now. Shops have to stand together and stop undercutting each other to appease the insurance companies though. I see that alot “oh well billy down the road said their rate is xxx “ then take it to them
Bro I’m making 18 per hour and the guy who taught me teacher 20 our shop sucks ass
@@rickymarin2545go independent man if your a panel beater minimum should be at least $25hr since they probably charge $60 hr. Now if your just a masker and prepper then expect to be paid that
You were posting a year later plus it matters where you are located
Thank you so much for sharing the information. This job looked pretty good, just like your other jobs. Appreciate your videos. Like i advised you in one of my previous comments, I am in similar trade, now fourth year in running. I run a small workshop as a body shop based in Midlands, in UK. I repair about ten cars a week. I do not take large collision repairs, but small to medium panel dents, scratches etc. I make my revenue to about £2500 a week, overheads for workshop gets paid out of this. I always feel that there are not enough hours in a day. I get a good satisfaction at the end of the day, when i am able to deliver the car back to the owner, nice and shiney, how it may have been looking before the damage.
Wow, ten cars a week! I do about two a week. That's great appreciate you watching and the comment!
Thanks for giving me a baseline of how these numbers look like! I really enjoy your videos and learned a lot, especially like this one that shares inside information on numbers.
Glad to help!
Thank you it was very good information I do work at c & c auto body in Colton California
Glad it was helpful!
great videos! keep up the awesome work. thank you for breaking down the costs and labor. It gives a realistic approach to what things really cost
Thanks for watching! Appreciate the comment and support!
$65 for a bumper cover and $25 for a grill? Amazing prices. A lot of your profit came from being able to source the parts for a good price. Us diy folks would have to at least pay double for the bumper cover and probably close to $100 for the grill. Would love to see more videos with the price breakdowns. Was the repair cost getting close to salvage territory?
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I’ve been thinking about getting my AAA in autobody and this video was super insightful!
The industry is in need for sure. I'm happy you found it helpful! Appreciate the comment and support!
Thanks for the video. Please continue to break down the repair costs... Great info!
Appreciate it brother! Thank's for the support!
Great video!! So informative.. I learn a lot. Thanks for putting the time and sharing this with everyone. 👍
Thanks brother for commenting and supporting the channel!
Very interesting. I didn't know that parts had a substantial markup, but I understand it is a big part of the profit. Truthfully, what I want to know is how to tell if the estimate for work not covered by insurance is fairly priced.
Awsome break down on the estimate would be awsome if you could show us more on that appreciate your time on giving us this info
Love the break down on the profit for the job. That’s what I have the hardest time figuring out. Any tips you can give me on estimating and billing would be greatly appreciated. I started painting as a hobby a year ago and now I have a very small business. I’m not money motivated I just do the jobs I want and jobs that have something I haven’t done or I need practice with. Nothing leaves my garage that’s not perfect I don’t use that word loosely. Thx man great vids.
I would say quote it high. If your not using software than alot of labor is getting missed. When ever you can work off the insurance companies estimate if they have one. Generally speaking a panel should cost 500 to paint. You can always lower you price. Good luck thank's for watching!
@@GarageNoise awesome thx for the info a general price per panel helps me a lot. 🤜🏻🤛🏻
Always try to crack those head open with a high price first
Excellent video GN - have a good weekend.
Thanks brother! You too!
A lot of work for not a lot of money. Plus over head and materials. I feel for you guys hope it gets better in the future as the insurance company's try to get as much for as little as they can pay for.
Agree
Thank you for sharing the pricing details. I’m opening a body shop soon.
2 guys doing it twice that's the pinnacle of inefficiency. So funny a 40 hour job that took 40 hours.. If you were the Technician you would have made $800 before taxes, Good luck new techs😂😂😂😂😂😂
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Right
Would have had that done in half a day
Your best friend is an infrared thermometer. The temp can vary quite a bit top to bottom of a panel.
Nicely done! And oh so accurate that costs/revenue on a given job is not profit. That paying the rent and utilities and everything else comes off that first. I 'assumed' you were going to get it wrong. LOL My bad.
Love you brother, you done a great job👍
I was wondering what pulling tower you use. Great videos you put out!
Nicely done.😊
Thanks. 😊
Thank you too!
Add filler should be applied over 180 scratches. That will soak up and shrink in 80 grit scratches
Are you talking about body filler over body filler? If that's the case you want an 80 scratch to apply filler over. Apply glazing putty over 180. Appreciate the comment
This was so insightful! I am looking to become a paint sprayer apprentice. May I ask if this were a luxury car like a rolls royce, lamborghini, maserati etc would you have been paid more for the work? I am trying to gauge whether there is more money to be made based on the vehicle or if there is a standard rate across the board
I paint at home for a hobby,just subed👍
Appreciate it! Welcome to the community!
Thanks for such great video
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Quick question Greg. How much for the Mirka dustless vacuum itself? Thanks for all the info, love the channel
Not sure mine cost around 1,800 came with the orbital sander, inline orbital and dustless sanding blocks.
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Great video wish to do more on the cost of body repair
Ok
You have some amazing skills
Thank's brother! Appreciate the support!
Body work sucks , the insurance company writes a bullshit estimate, the company writers want the technician to tear it down write all the damage down and hand it to the writer so they can copy and order the wrong parts , wrong side, when it’s there job to write supplements, meen while the tech is flat rate and doesn’t get paid anything to write supplements . I did bodywork for 40 years and it’s a hard job that the insurance companies regulate the labor rate , my advice if your young is don’t make it a career.
I agree that insurance companies controlling the labor rates is criminal but I do feel young guys can make a good living as a tech and there's alot of satisfaction in the work. Appreciate you take and the support.
I was always scared to go to a body shop now I know why they charge the way they charge 👍
It's alot of work for sure!
Great job and thank you for the breakdown
Can you tell what grit was you using for bumper I am pritty sure you said 600 and also did you dry sand or wet sand thank you for the video
Thanks brother,600 dry .
Like to know if the color on the doors matched the front clip without blending 85% not. Hood latch replacement legally required is it replaced??
Yes, I blended it and everthing matched great. Why do you mention 85%🤔
Thanks for the break down on ins jobs my question is how to quote a off the frame restoration thanks
Never quoted one. There's too many variables it depends on how in depth your going but just as a reference for a standard full paint job I charge around 10,000 with some minor body work. Appreciate the support!
Chris what “grit “ belt do you prefer using on that band file to grind thru factory spot welds? Kool video!Thanks for your time and energy making these videos 👍
Appreciate the support! 36 grit is what I use. You want a coarse grit for cutting welds.
Much Appreciated!
Ik this video is old, for blends u want to use 800, less chance for burn through, then i usually hit over it with a gray scotch Brit on a DA
For future videos, please make the sound bytes quieter for showing prices. Had to nearly mute the video to watch.
Appreciate you pointing that out . That's a pet peeve of mine sound quality, hopefully my newer video's are much better.
Awesome video!!
Thank's brother!
Great job 👍
Thanks 👍
Can you make a video of how to use the attachments and tips for the g90e?
Yes, I'll put it in the schedule
@@GarageNoise thanks so much! I’m looking forward to getting one!
Too complicated for me. You did a great job.
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Hey I really need similar work done on a Dodge Charger..jus wondering where are you guys located??
Tulsa, Oklahoma
Been an employee doing bodywork for 10 years just recently started paining and so now i work for a guy that flips classic cars. He buys the materials i use my tools and paint cars .. i charge him by the job first i started cheap kuz i didnt have a lot of experience painting and also giving prices so no i feel like im getting f for example i only charge him 400 to buff a flip car i buy the materials when buffing.. also to paint a chevelle i usually charge him 2800 includong buffong and fixing rust spots with fiberglass and bondo and fix little dents here and there.. also painting jambs and everything.. if i charge more he tells me some guys charge him what i charge him and he doesnt have to pay for materials which i say is bs.. idk what tp do i was gettong payed 30 an hour as an employee and with him im gettong payed between 30 to 40 alot of stress too i dont think its worth it anymore but i also gaoned a lot of experience painting and feel like i should be making more money now any advice?
I'm gonna give you some great advice for a long time. I did paint work and body work for dealerships. With dealers, you'll never make a good living doing that. The best thing I ever did was to put my business on the internet. I didn't have to create a website. I just put my business where i could be found on the internet with pictures Before & After of my work and that led to retail business. Retail business is where you wanna be. I understand that sometimes you have to do that Kind of work just to pay the bills, but get out of it as soon as you can put your efforts in getting retail business. You'll make much more money in half the time.
Let me know how it goes. P.s go above and beyond for retail customers and they'll will keep coming back and charge for your work in my area $65 an hour and 45 an hr for materials
@@GarageNoise thank you so much for the advice i will keep it in mind 👍
Why not drill the welds out on those aprons. Then you only have a hole there to plug weld instead of a belt sanding hole
I find a belt sander speeds up the process
Estimate to Replace a 2010 Toyota corolla front Bumper and Fender
Roughly expect 1200 to 1500
Been thinking about going to school for this would u recommend? Is 50k a year a fair estimate for how much I’d make or is that low or high?
You could easily make that and more. Most of the good Autobody techs I know make around 90k.
@@GarageNoise thank you…I’m leaning towards it vs Auto mechanic. I want to restore cars
@@milesallen5590 I start school at Lincoln Tech next month. The collision repair course is 12 months and is $28k but I’m covered through financial aid. Also I’m in Chicago. I expect to make between $40-$50k to start but after ASE certification and a few year’s experience I’ve seen jobs on indeed for auto body technicians going anywhere from $80-$150,000 here. I think you should go for it man.
How soon are you able to sand after applying the 2K primer? I read that shrinkage is potentially an issue?
If you sand it with 320 before you shouldn't have any sand scratches. If you use a fast reducer in the 2k you should be able to sand after about 2 hours with 3 decent coats.
@@gavin4157 I assume this time can be reduced if you let it dry in the sun?
@@livedeliciously depends because 2k uses a chemical reaction, but yes, I’ve had good luck with force drying with heat
Awesome job Chris. The price breakdown is a great insight on repair costs. This will definitely help in the future. Thanks
As an A-tech on the production line in a faced paced high flow bodyshop with 20 yrs of experience i would recommend no one get into this profession!
It's not for everyone. Thanks for watching!
I would agree. I started in 1998 and left during covid19. Not looking back! Best wishes
Why u say that?
@@Capo6200cause it's a dirty shitty job constantly breathing in terrible fumes and dust.. (money is good) but it's always a rush on every job, and the industry as a whole just sucks to work in. Do not look into the auto body career field. be an electrician, carpenter, plumber, welder, HVAC, anything other than this bullshit work.
41 yrs been doing this shit i could puke after ll these years
I thought you were going to say what you profited from this job? I only heard what the total cost was
It's in there near the end
Collision repair technicians are so under paid
For sure! Thanks for watching and commenting!
so it took you 5 days.....so what was the profit?
There's a breakdown in the video.
I watched it. You didn’t quite say your take home profit
How can you sue a auto body shop? Is it possible I took my car for a respray and bodywork done guy took 3 months to complete it and I picked the car up, once I drove back home I noticed it had a tone of small l imperfections on it hit him up and he said bring it back bro I’ll take care of you and I made a list of a bunch of things it had wrong, so he takes the care back and it’s been more than 8 months since I dropped the car off and it’s still not ready, I have a tone of messages pictures and stuff honestly I’m just tired of all his bs and he did a bunch of cars before mine so I’m wondering is it possible to sue him plus he took the car back so that’s on him.
This sounds like an excessive amount of time to get the job done. I hate to think a lawsuit is the only answer but can surely understand the frustration.
I'm denter ,any Denting job vacancies
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Super to see the labor and rate, also every step is in detail. Nice Job as always!
(probably here in Hungary this repair would be around total 3-4 grand in a dealership)
Appreciate the comment and support!
My man... use sealer before you base!
Sometimes I do, depends on the situation. I might do a video on this. I go back a fourth on this. It can create some problems when your not spraying it a booth. In most case your right tho. Appreciate the comment and support!
Were you self taught fixing cars or schooling
Taught by myself my father and other experienced tech's . This is why I'm choosing to share my experience. Appreciate the support!
Am a auto denter any vacancy in your workshop
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Hoy muchs for a fender peint
Fender is typically around 3-400
Dangerous and weak welds. That welder is for toys not vehicles. A john eagle lawsuit waiting to happen.
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This is a joke you guys are either charging up the ass or not making any money is he you r apprentice
YOUR A FINISHER AS SEE BEFORE LAY DOWN PAINT ! YOUR EYES BEEN DOING THIS FOR YEAR's
NICE JOB FOR THEY PRIMER FOR STONE CHIP AS IT BACK ON THE ROAD AS STONE HIT WITH OUT DAMAGE ! SMART GUY''s ! THIS WHY THE PUBLIC NEED''s TO SEE THIS WORK < LOT USE PRIMER OR PAINT LONG WAY FROM ACRYLIC. YOU MUST WORK ON HIGH END AUTO , USE THAT WAY OF BASE AND COAT BLENDED !
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