Fun fact: You can also try reaching for the shutoff valve through the window with one hand while balancing funnel and canister with the other. But then, 1:36 becomes more of a "Crap, it's full, SHUT IT, SHUT IT, shite, where's the valve, darn it, tilted the canister, gosh, it's everywhere" xD
Wix 33039 looks like a NAPA Gold 3039 which also fits. Also use a magnet on back of tank to pull metallic particles away from valve. That tip I got from a seven decade Model A owner/driver. Worked 🤷🏻 He has driven the same 1930 Tudor all those years!
I just drained mine to install a new shutoff valve. I removed the line at the carb, put on a clear plastic hose and drained into a 5 gallon can. No mess. I’ve had my A for 60 years.
good video Paul and Model T!!! I installed a fuel valve screen in our 31 Fordor fuel shutoff valve many years ago. Recently we could only go about 1 1/2 miles going to a cars and coffee and our car would shut down like someone turned the key off. I "assumed" it was an electrical problem and replaced the coil, condenser, etc... Still had the same problem!! Did a fuel flow test and it was just a trickle. I drained the fuel tank (took forever) and found the screen had come off the valve!! The shutoff valve was almost completely clogged!! I installed a new screen with fuel resistant Permatex RTV and installed one of the Wix sediment filters you talked about. Our 31 Fordor runs like a champ now!!!!
Paul, I relate to your Boomerish problem with needing to pee. When we're young the world is our oyster and we're full of piss and vinegar. Then with age and experience we can hopefully claim some wisdom. But they never told us that the price of that wisdom was a cranky bladder. One of those life surprises that every generation gets to discover. Growing older is interesting, but I'm still waiting to grow up.
Short,but good video Paul. I’m with Wayne, wishing I had got my A years ago. I’m enjoying the Vicky so much more sense you came on the scene. Going to be selling my 26 Tudor now. Thanks again,PaulB
Thanks Paul. I have a new gas shut off, inside fuel line, and glass sediment bowl. Now I need to order one of those filters. I have nearly a full tank of new gas I need to drain first. The car does not have a sediment bowl. It does have a Ford 260 V-8 and fuel pump. I'm still trying to keep parts of it original or close, since I don't have a cast fuel bowl. Those headlight eyebrows sure look neat on Athena!
Hey Paul, great tip on the Wix-Filter 33039, I'll have to get some next spring for my two tractors that have sediment bowls. Thanks for the advice have a good one. See you later!
Not the most environmentally friendly thing here but the old gas is good to clean really dirty parts. Then recycle the old dirty gas. Obviously a well ventilated area along with common sense safety precautions is a must. It was helpful to have the old gas when we brought an old car back to life. There was some stuff the parts washer just couldn't get. Love the videos-- Keep them coming!!
Good tip Jeff. Thanks! This gas was so varnished, I think its usefulness as parts cleaning fluid was long expired. Not it can be re-refined and used again.
Still waiting on the wire harness video but this one is good too :-) One good thing having the gas tank there but watch out for a head on. Happy Father's day Paul.
Great tip on the Wix fuel filter. I have rubber fuel line so have always used inline filter. Wouldn't it have been better to blow the fuel line out from the shutoff valve? Seems like you would be pushing what ever plugged the line back into the fuel tank, where it might plug the line again. Enjoying your videos, thanks for the effort.
How to clean out rust and "gunk" from the tank? there are anti-splash compartments that prevents brushing the inside through the hole .. vacuum it out with a plastic hose I wonder .. dissolving with rust-loosener or fuel-stabilizer maybe .. thanks for the filter tip and the links to other videos.
Once again, MY HERO Paul has saved me from having to use my AAA card to get my 1929 Model A pickup home. Drip, drip, drip went the fuel until I blew through the fuel line. Now I just need to figure out how to clean out the gas tank so this doesn't happen again.
When I drained the gas from my truck, it was easier to remove the hose between the shut off and inside firewall. Then installed a hose with a threaded adapter and run it outside to a can on the ground. Then I was able to shake, turn valve, drain, refill . . . shake, turn valve, drain, fill and shake again . . . repeat 4 times.
Hey Paul.....I'm a newbie with the model A, and enjoying your videos very much.Yes, great tip on the wix filter. I'm currently having a hard time finding one of these filters. Are there any alternative filters that would work?
I think I may have a leak in my 1931 Tudor's gas tank and if that is so, I may have to pull it. If you have a car that the tank needs to be sealed or removed, it would be nice to see a video on that.
We will probably cover that in our full fordor restoration video. We are only about half done with that, so maybe a year from now we will finally have it (and its video) done.
You guys need a fan on and pointed in your direction because of the gas fumes. When I do work that involves gas, I have a high speed fan about 20 feet away pointed at the work site. Make sure the fan is on high.
Paul, LOVE your channel! A quick question for you: 1. Plan to change my front lights to LED 6V lights any brand recommendations and or dealers?? Many thanks for the help, and I look forward to hearing from you, soon! Very best regards from Tennessee! Dan C.
Paul: Is there any additional benefit to installing the pencil filter screen above the fuel shutoff valve inside the gas tank? Looking forward to the re-wire video. God bless. Steve
Hi Paul, could you please inform the reason you have the fuel line going down to the carb., dressed or covered with loom tubing? Interesting to learn why? Have a great week end and regards from Curaçao.
hi! I really like yore videos, very good information! I'm in the progress of rebuilding a model A. I have a question about the fuel line. I have baught a fuelline for model A. the ends are not flared. Are they supposed to be, or does the tapered brass fitting keeping it in place? also, the pre-bent fuel line does not fit. is it okey to bend it, or will it crack (it´s not copper. it´s gray)? (excuse my english and if the language make my questions unclear. I´m from sweden)
Hello Paul, your channel has inspired me to buy a 1930 Model A Sedan, I am newer to your channel and have not watched all the Q&A sessions and would like to know, what type or grade of gas do you recommend? Thank you
@@ModelA It appears my model a has original suspension and I will need to rebuild it, amongst other things, can you please recommend a good repair manual and any parts houses or other sources I should use? I greatly appreciate any guidance you may have, thank you.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, my apologies to those that suddenly have the urge to use the restroom! This is the “Boomerist channel” on RUclips. I love Athena! The hoopdiest Model A ever. It makes me happy every time a video comes out with her in it. Please keep them coming
Hello Paul Shinn, I recently acquired a 1931 Model A coupe and the 33039 Wix fuel filter has been unobtainable, what would you recommend for a replacement fuel filter somewhere in the fuel line? I just completed a complete rebuild of the carburetor so it would be a shame to send tainted gas into it. Thank you for your time.
Hi Paul, I just got my first slant window 31 blindback. I am having a fuel issue. It runs but hesitates. Added the wix filter and replaced the gasket in the glass bowl. Blew the gas back to the tank, helped for a while but the problem is back. When blowing back isn't the crud going back to the tank? if so do I need to remove the tank to clean it? how about if there is a pencil filter
Yep, it goes back, then gets another chance to break up and end up in the filter. If it stumbles on acceleration, it is too lean. Open the GAV a bit more.
Yes, and maybe. The Model A has two built-in fuel filters. Clearing a clot from the line blows it back in, but the hope is when it comes out again, it doesn't do it all at once and clog again. If it comes out in small bits, the filters will catch it.
The partial blockage was in the line between the bowl and the tank, probably at the tank outlet. Eventually, it will end up in the filter. What would you suggest I do differently?
@@ModelA Ok. I didn't realize (or missed it in the video) that the blockage was on the tank side of the bowl. What could you differently? I don't know...Oh.. inhale......??
I'd love to get a model A, but the only problems that I run across are that I haven't saved up much money for one yet and if I did, all of the cars are around 300+ miles away haha. U-Haul here I come
@@modeladenny1218 That would be a "fun" pump to change..ha ha. NO! I don't want a car with a gas tank pump, that would mean the car also has computers, power steering, power brakes, and a 95% chance it has one of those stinking auto trannys. The worst day of my automobile life is the day they invented the automatic transmission. :(
@@WildernessMusic_GentleSerene My very first car had a Fluid Drive. It was a '49 Dodge. I own cars with things like lectric fuel pumps and I've seen my son change the same truck electric pump a half dozen times before he got a good one from China! Seems like there should be a better way to replace a lectric fuel pump.
That is a great deal Most of the dirt of the tank is iron powder that came from a corroded tank wall You can use the round magnet that is easily obtained from the back of an old loudspeaker inside the bowl Fits and work very well
Ok first thing no rags to save the paint second thing is he blew any junk in the fuel line back in to the system instead of removing the fuel line and blowing it out with air and a small coat of vaseline on the glass bowl and where not even going to talk about the fan on the foot panel or wires dangling
"Please open the gas valve" sounded like "Put the candle back" from Young Frankenstein.
That was absolutely what I had in mind at the time! I figured someone would get it.
Fun fact: You can also try reaching for the shutoff valve through the window with one hand while balancing funnel and canister with the other. But then, 1:36 becomes more of a "Crap, it's full, SHUT IT, SHUT IT, shite, where's the valve, darn it, tilted the canister, gosh, it's everywhere" xD
Haha!
Thanks for the video. I was able to drain my Grandfather's 1931 Model A Ford gas tank that has been sitting since 2006.
Excellent!
Wix 33039 looks like a NAPA Gold 3039 which also fits. Also use a magnet on back of tank to pull metallic particles away from valve. That tip I got from a seven decade Model A owner/driver. Worked 🤷🏻 He has driven the same 1930 Tudor all those years!
Yes! Good eye
I just drained mine to install a new shutoff valve. I removed the line at the carb, put on a clear plastic hose and drained into a 5 gallon can. No mess. I’ve had my A for 60 years.
Best way to do it.
Gotta love how simple the Model A is. Can't think of many other cars you could drain the tank with nothing but a jug and a funnel.
good video Paul and Model T!!! I installed a fuel valve screen in our 31 Fordor fuel shutoff valve many years ago. Recently we could only go about 1 1/2 miles going to a cars and coffee and our car would shut down like someone turned the key off. I "assumed" it was an electrical problem and replaced the coil, condenser, etc... Still had the same problem!! Did a fuel flow test and it was just a trickle. I drained the fuel tank (took forever) and found the screen had come off the valve!! The shutoff valve was almost completely clogged!! I installed a new screen with fuel resistant Permatex RTV and installed one of the Wix sediment filters you talked about. Our 31 Fordor runs like a champ now!!!!
Wow, what a hassle. But YOU FOUND IT!!!!! Good work!!
90 percent of gas problems are electical@@ModelA
Paul, I relate to your Boomerish problem with needing to pee. When we're young the world is our oyster and we're full of piss and vinegar. Then with age and experience we can hopefully claim some wisdom. But they never told us that the price of that wisdom was a cranky bladder. One of those life surprises that every generation gets to discover. Growing older is interesting, but I'm still waiting to grow up.
Well said
That depends
@@davidmiller6981 I see what you did there.🤣
@@paulzumpf3612 Just a little fun model A people have more fun that anyone i know we pretty much have done it all and seen it all
That's a fact! Model A people also seem the type who don't get offended at every little thing, so that makes us happier people from the start.
Attention to detail, shows pride in ownership. Good job Paul
In Athena??? Hahahaa!!
@@ModelA your getting it "sorted"... so, YES ;) sadly, we are far apart, or I would offer to help
It's going to be a LONG time before Athena is sorted! It's like a fine wine, but without the fine part.
Well done Paul. Wish In had discovered the model A 30 years ago! Thanks.
No worries Wayne. It's never too late
Short,but good video Paul. I’m with Wayne, wishing I had got my A years ago. I’m enjoying the Vicky so much more sense you came on the scene. Going to be selling my 26 Tudor now. Thanks again,PaulB
@@ModelA Nope, never too late. Like Paul and his other dad, I finally found my dream Model A. Sometimes it's more of a nightmare!
@@paboot I had a '26 touring. Now have a '31 phaeton but wish I had a Vicky. It's hard to please us kids.
Absolutely cool. Keeps me motivated to stay involved in our A. Thank you.
Thanks Paul. I have a new gas shut off, inside fuel line, and glass sediment bowl. Now I need to order one of those filters. I have nearly a full tank of new gas I need to drain first.
The car does not have a sediment bowl. It does have a Ford 260 V-8 and fuel pump. I'm still trying to keep parts of it original or close, since I don't have a cast fuel bowl.
Those headlight eyebrows sure look neat on Athena!
Hey Paul, great tip on the Wix-Filter 33039, I'll have to get some next spring for my two tractors that have sediment bowls. Thanks for the advice have a good one. See you later!
Not the most environmentally friendly thing here but the old gas is good to clean really dirty parts. Then recycle the old dirty gas.
Obviously a well ventilated area along with common sense safety precautions is a must. It was helpful to have the old gas when we brought an old car back to life. There was some stuff the parts washer just couldn't get.
Love the videos-- Keep them coming!!
Good tip Jeff. Thanks! This gas was so varnished, I think its usefulness as parts cleaning fluid was long expired. Not it can be re-refined and used again.
Thanks Paul for always giving us something to look forward to watching !
Much appreciated
Looking forward to the rewire.
Thank you! I'm not looking forward to the re-wire because I have to do it!
But you ARE the warranty 😆
“Save those childish jokes for later” I guess I have nothing to say…….Athena must really be liking that.
that=being taken care of
Hahahaaa!!
Still waiting on the wire harness video but this one is good too :-) One good thing having the gas tank there but watch out for a head on. Happy Father's day Paul.
Happy Fathers Day to YOU!
Great tip on the Wix fuel filter. I have rubber fuel line so have always used inline filter. Wouldn't it have been better to blow the fuel line out from the shutoff valve? Seems like you would be pushing what ever plugged the line back into the fuel tank, where it might plug the line again. Enjoying your videos, thanks for the effort.
Nice filter tip
Thanks David
@@ModelA that may even work for my Ford 8n tractor as well!
Cleaned my cars tank recently. Now it's ready.
How to clean out rust and "gunk" from the tank? there are anti-splash compartments that prevents brushing the inside through the hole .. vacuum it out with a plastic hose I wonder .. dissolving with rust-loosener or fuel-stabilizer maybe .. thanks for the filter tip and the links to other videos.
I'll be doing a video on that soon. I did a little bit of tank cleaning on the video where I replace the gas gauge in the woody.
John boy drove a 29 coupe, jim bob drove a cobbled together 29 roadster the truck was a 29 AA long bed pickup
Once again, MY HERO Paul has saved me from having to use my AAA card to get my 1929 Model A pickup home. Drip, drip, drip went the fuel until I blew through the fuel line. Now I just need to figure out how to clean out the gas tank so this doesn't happen again.
Nice work! There's a video on that.
When I drained the gas from my truck, it was easier to remove the hose between the shut off and inside firewall. Then installed a hose with a threaded adapter and run it outside to a can on the ground. Then I was able to shake, turn valve, drain, refill . . . shake, turn valve, drain, fill and shake again . . . repeat 4 times.
That is a good way also. My way doesn't involve tools and can be done on the side of the road if necessary.
I gotta go to the bathroom! I did make it through the video. Many miles!
Hahahaaa!!
Thank you Paul. cheers 🥂
Thank you, Yhen!
Hey Paul.....I'm a newbie with the model A, and enjoying your videos very much.Yes, great tip on the wix filter. I'm currently having a hard time finding one of these filters. Are there any alternative filters that would work?
Napa 3039 is the same
Thank you for the comeback and information.....much appreciated@@ModelA
Thank you for sharing
I think I may have a leak in my 1931 Tudor's gas tank and if that is so, I may have to pull it. If you have a car that the tank needs to be sealed or removed, it would be nice to see a video on that.
We will probably cover that in our full fordor restoration video. We are only about half done with that, so maybe a year from now we will finally have it (and its video) done.
You guys need a fan on and pointed in your direction because of the gas fumes. When I do work that involves gas, I have a high speed fan about 20 feet away pointed at the work site. Make sure the fan is on high.
A "piece of cake" to do. Put the gas can on the ground, put a hose on the funnel, TADA, no mess !
Wow, Great video will that Wix filter fit my 1951 ford 8n Tractor fuel bowl. Thks again
@@ModelA lol it’s was Worth a shot to ask, thks
Paul, LOVE your channel! A quick question for you:
1. Plan to change my front lights to LED 6V lights any brand recommendations and or dealers??
Many thanks for the help, and I look forward to hearing from you, soon!
Very best regards from Tennessee!
Dan C.
Thank you, Dan! Yes, the last video I did on LED headlights that I got from Newton Wells, those are the best! ruclips.net/video/mfEqM8YSSvo/видео.html
Paul: Is there any additional benefit to installing the pencil filter screen above the fuel shutoff valve inside the gas tank? Looking forward to the re-wire video. God bless. Steve
Yes. I use them in all my Model As
Ok Paul, the bathroom comment made me laugh out loud. Great video, keek up the good work.
Glad you enjoyed Mike
Hi Paul, could you please inform the reason you have the fuel line going down to the carb., dressed or covered with loom tubing?
Interesting to learn why?
Have a great week end and regards from Curaçao.
Hi Myron! This car came that way. Previous owner did it. See previous videos.
Most likely an attempt to prevent vapor lock, or boiling on the gasoline in the fuel line
Very nice Paul Mammal. Will old fuel burn at all?
Yes, but poorly
hi! I really like yore videos, very good information! I'm in the progress of rebuilding a model A. I have a question about the fuel line. I have baught a fuelline for model A. the ends are not flared. Are they supposed to be, or does the tapered brass fitting keeping it in place? also, the pre-bent fuel line does not fit. is it okey to bend it, or will it crack (it´s not copper. it´s gray)? (excuse my english and if the language make my questions unclear. I´m from sweden)
The brass things on the ends will seal. That's how they work. Yes, you can bend it as needed. Best to you!
@@ModelA tank you!
Hello Paul, your channel has inspired me to buy a 1930 Model A Sedan, I am newer to your channel and have not watched all the Q&A sessions and would like to know, what type or grade of gas do you recommend? Thank you
Welcome Michael! I just run regular. Model A's will run on almost any combustible liquid.
@@ModelA Thank You Paul, I'm excited, my Car arrives at 10:00 this morning, had to look up the H pattern, a lot to learn.
See my video "How to shift gears in a Ford Model A' (or something like that).
@@ModelA It appears my model a has original suspension and I will need to rebuild it, amongst other things, can you please recommend a good repair manual and any parts houses or other sources I should use? I greatly appreciate any guidance you may have, thank you.
Staying cool out there? Do you ever experience hard starting conditions (similar to vapor lock symptoms) from Model A during hot days?
Very rarely. But a pull of the choke always gets it going. Mix some Marvel Mystery Oil in the gas when it's really hot outside.
@@ModelA I add a shot of MMO with every gas fill-up, especially in Winter when not much Model A use in NH.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, my apologies to those that suddenly have the urge to use the restroom! This is the “Boomerist channel” on RUclips. I love Athena! The hoopdiest Model A ever. It makes me happy every time a video comes out with her in it. Please keep them coming
You've got it, Geoff!
Another great video!
Thanks Charles!
Seems like the Model A fuel valve is opposite of modern valves. Usuall when the handle is parallel with the line it is on, here it looks to be off?
Hello Paul Shinn, I recently acquired a 1931 Model A coupe and the 33039 Wix fuel filter has been unobtainable, what would you recommend for a replacement fuel filter somewhere in the fuel line? I just completed a complete rebuild of the carburetor so it would be a shame to send tainted gas into it. Thank you for your time.
Napa 3039 is the same
Hey Paul, another informative episode but how could you tell that the inside of the tank was clean?
By looking inside.
Okay, let me say this for you, “Duh!”
Hahaaa!!
Hi Paul, I just got my first slant window 31 blindback. I am having a fuel issue. It runs but hesitates. Added the wix filter and replaced the gasket in the glass bowl. Blew the gas back to the tank, helped for a while but the problem is back. When blowing back isn't the crud going back to the tank? if so do I need to remove the tank to clean it? how about if there is a pencil filter
Yep, it goes back, then gets another chance to break up and end up in the filter. If it stumbles on acceleration, it is too lean. Open the GAV a bit more.
Hello Paul may I ask what year Athena is and what model?
1931 Model A
Did you just blow all the crud from the fuel line back into the gas tank?
Won’t the fuel line plug up again?
Yes, and maybe. The Model A has two built-in fuel filters. Clearing a clot from the line blows it back in, but the hope is when it comes out again, it doesn't do it all at once and clog again. If it comes out in small bits, the filters will catch it.
Just curious as to why you blew the line back in to the tank. Wouldn't that put any contamination back into the tank?
The partial blockage was in the line between the bowl and the tank, probably at the tank outlet. Eventually, it will end up in the filter. What would you suggest I do differently?
@@ModelA Ok. I didn't realize (or missed it in the video) that the blockage was on the tank side of the bowl. What could you differently? I don't know...Oh.. inhale......??
Like Bill Clinton, I never inhaled.
I'd love to get a model A, but the only problems that I run across are that I haven't saved up much money for one yet and if I did, all of the cars are around 300+ miles away haha. U-Haul here I come
How do you get yesterday‘s car t o run on today’s fuel is it bad on the valves
Wiring next....kool...:) A car with no fuel pump, just another one of a thousand reasons to own a Model A.
Wilderness...... Wouldn't you rather have car with the fuel pump in the gas tank?
@@modeladenny1218 That would be a "fun" pump to change..ha ha. NO! I don't want a car with a gas tank pump, that would mean the car also has computers, power steering, power brakes, and a 95% chance it has one of those stinking auto trannys. The worst day of my automobile life is the day they invented the automatic transmission. :(
@@WildernessMusic_GentleSerene My very first car had a Fluid Drive. It was a '49 Dodge. I own cars with things like lectric fuel pumps and I've seen my son change the same truck electric pump a half dozen times before he got a good one from China!
Seems like there should be a better way to replace a lectric fuel pump.
IS THE COUPE GOING TO BE SOLD AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE?
Yes. Soon.
Hey Paul, I cleaned my sediment bowl and when I put it back together I have air at the top, how do I get rid of it?
As soon as you drive it around a bit, the air will be gone
I would have pulled the drain plug from the bottom of the carb and drained any old fuel and crude out of the carb too?
You may have missed the second video where we completely rebuilt the carb.
Simple but important! Added to the list of Model A videos on the MAFCA website - www.mafca.com/videos.html
That list must have lots of interesting videos.
@@johnnyrocket6588 Lots of good stuff. We're lucky to have "master Model A mechanics" that share their knowledge with the hobby.
@@mafcawebmaster4237 - And then, there's me. Just some dope with a Model A and an iPhone camera.
@@ModelA You're too modest :)
@@ModelA Well you have a huge wealth of knowledge about model a’s as well.
Paul can you mabe make a review of youre dad's buisnes coupe if he want's it to?
Maybe a useful hint on any old car is to put a magnet on the underside of the fuel tank to catch any ferrous metal that could be in the tank.
That is a great deal
Most of the dirt of the tank is iron powder that came from a corroded tank wall
You can use the round magnet that is easily obtained from the back of an old loudspeaker inside the bowl
Fits and work very well
Will it drain all the fuel if you don't open the fuel filler on top?
If the fuel cap is vented properly, then yes. This one "wheezes" like it has a partial plugged up fuel cap vent. So I will have to fix that.
Ok makes sense if it's gravity feed.
Do you use gas that contains ethanol?
That's all we have in California. Hey, I only stay here because of family and my job.
I have a non-related Model A question. Does anyone know the fate of the "John-Boy Walton" Model A from the Waltons TV show?
Good question
There's a Special Interest Group for AA Trucks - they may have the answer. Check them out at aafords.com/c/
@@mafcawebmaster4237 - John Boy drove a Model A roadster.
@@ModelA But he also drove a 28-29 AA Stakebed truck as I recall
Do you mean, this one: www.pinterest.ca/pin/319051954824623079/
A common sense solution. It's a shame that common sense is so uncommon these days.
Yep
Common sense is survived by his two step brothers Dim Wit and Half Wit.
Ok first thing no rags to save the paint second thing is he blew any junk in the fuel line back in to the system instead of removing the fuel line and blowing it out with air and a small coat of vaseline on the glass bowl and where not even going to talk about the fan on the foot panel or wires dangling
Maybe you missed the other videos in this series. This is a hooptie revival. See previous videos in the series and it will all make sense.
Why didn’t you just take the gas line off in stead of taking the bowel off
Because it's easier and faster the way I did it.
@@ModelA my AR was cast iron with a tap on it I made a long fork that I can shut he gas of easier. On my 30 FOR DOR
sorry, a car with a "clean tank" was not what i was looking for
What exactly were you looking for?