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Dr. Starkey, I would love to join, will check it out. I am an American who has always loved British history and the Monarchy. Have watched your lectures for years.
I think the lack of patriotism is a massive change. One set of my grandparents were labour voters, the other set were conservative voters but both sets were patriots.
Globalisation which the centre Right have embraced has at its heart the rejection of the nation state. The Right went for Individualism Consumerism and Global Capitalism and has completely failed to conserve anything of traditional England unfortunately.
@@evolassunglasses4673 Unfortunately I think both sides of the aisle are singing from the same hymn sheet where globalisation is concerned. On traditional England I realised it was done when everyone so tamely accepted all the mandates through covid. I was astonished tbh. A fundamental part or even perhaps THE fundamental part of the English character is our demand for liberty. It's been woven into the culture of England for as long as there's been England, yet either there's a major shift in what it is to be English that's happened or the true English (I mean the cultural English and nothing so base as ethnicity or skin colour etc as David Starkey points out) are on the verge of drifting into an almost barely recognised extinction.
The post war generation had the sixties revolution, strikes in the 1970s and 1980s, good pensions, jobs, cheap housing or rent. The generation that broke the back of traditional UK values.
The greatest closing line to a speech I've ever heard: "The Archbishop of Canterbury. The infinitely failing figure of Welby, a man who celebrated holy communion during lockdown in front... of a.... kitchen... cabinet."
So wonderful to hear someone who knows what they're talking about. A genuinely clever, clear thinking, honest man. The world, it seems to me, is plagued right now, I guess it always was, by clever dummies whose discourse is either deeply dishonest or mad - I can't work out which.
As a non CoE, Christian, I love Mr Starkey’s views on the church, God and culture. He can be right and wrong and right in the same thought! Nevertheless, the older I get and the more I know, the more I am glad I am a Christian. By the way, there is nothing to conserve…that ship has sailed.
Glad to hear the powerful condemnation of Archibishop Welby. The kitchen celebration of Holy Communion in a time of a pandemic was shameful then compounded by CofE refusal to allow any Clergy into their own Churches. The distress this caused was shameful.
A relative of mine died during covid, I was prevented from visiting during their final months, unable to share a final hug, unable to thank them for the loving impact on my life. You can shove your authoritarianism up your illiberal arse.
Being totally honest, some of it was over my head. I get the basic Liberal, Labour and Conservative differences, but get lost after that. I'm not a Cambridge student and I appreciate that was his target audience, but I can at least listen in and enjoy the journey he takes us on. How lucky are we he is posting on RUclips and we get to subscribe and learn that way.
You are right to be confused. Each of those political parties no longer represents what it used to. Tories aren't conservative, Labour no longer represent the working class, and liberals reject free speech. They get away with this slight of hand by claiming parties are "a broad church". A church so broad that it is the opposite of what everyone assumes it to be. That's quite a trick.
@@borderlands6606 Not all that dissimilar from US where parties have reversed. In my 50s 60s childhood Republicans were the party of the professional class and Democrats the working class (that's an oversimplification of course) and now the exact opposite is true.
@@kevinmorgan8534 True, except in the South where such people would have been Democrats. Also there were regional outliers like Minnesota and Wisconsin which had large rural Democratic populations. Then there was the ethnic factor. My dad was from Minneapolis and his family were Dems because they were Irish Catholics in spite of his stepfather being a doctor which normally would have been a Republican professional type. By the 60s dad had moved quietly into the GOP and my Episcopalian raised mom of course had always been Republican. A different world. (Their mixed marriage - Catholic and Protestant - was a HUGE deal in 1953 tho who would even notice it now)
David. We met at a conservative gay group. I have never forgotten you. My partner Richard Cunliffe died 10 years ago. He was involved with Quest the RC gay group
Canceled? His ugly mug is all over RUclips & the beeb can't get enough of the old windbag. You fake "conservatives" own everything & yet you are terrified of those who are smarter than you(the Woke). Get a grip.
You want brutal honesty. Have a look at mental health figures. Conservatism embraced neo-liberalism. It deserves a kicking. Starkey is a dinosaur. You, my friend, are a bone-collector.
That moment before you go to bed and something like this pops up. Gaahh... I'm not in my 30's anymore. I have a hard day ahead of me and need my sleep. I also have two kids to deal with in the morning. :(
HUNGARY What the neighbours say: As a government spokesman explained last year: “What we need is not numbers, but Hungarian children: we’re not seeking to sustain an economic system, but Hungary, the Hungarian nation and Hungarian history; we want to encourage the continuation of our families.” WOW! Somebody from the government saying: “We’re not seeking to sustain an economic system, but Our Nation, Hungary!
The only thing new is the history you don't know, Pres. Harry S. Truman. History and government classes definitely need teachers that bring it to life. I had a government teacher in high school who said " Government is dynamic not static". She actually contacted Pres Nixon and he called the next day to speak over the pa system to the whole school.
Having been raised in a welfare family my early influences were from those with little work ethic and no political interest at all. I would say my parents aunts and uncles were liberal in an old fashioned New Zealand kinda way, having grown up in Christchurch NZ during the 80s and 90s. I had fleeting interactions with those that people might regard as conservative. (Some extended family. Those that I came across at the likes of, Youth group and Church, School and later into my working life.) Without any promotion from those nearest to me, I have found myself leaning towards being conservative and more and more being completely put off by the political Left.
The trouble with the Left are that they largely come from rich families and seem to think they know what is good for you. And if you don't agree you are Satan personified. One of the most laughable recent events was when Alexandria Ocasia Cortez went to function with a dress with 'Tax the Rich' written largess on it. The minimum entrance fee for a ticket was $25000 and some paid over $300000. Perhaps the dress should have said 'Tax Me'. Obviously more money than sense. I'm sure her posh friends found it all frightfully amusing. T'was also interesting that Central and Southern American imigrants into the US voted for Trump (another seriously rich person - so he says - ironically) more than might be expected. One of the chief reasons given was that they had come to the US to get away from people like Ms Cortez as they had seen it all before there. Another example of how out of touch some of these politicans really are.
Captivating and thoroughly interesting address David. I would wager that alot of your subscribers, like myself, to hear you talk through an autobiographical account of your life. An hour or hour and a half would be expected and enjoyable ??
Conservatism always loses, because it fundamentally agrees with liberal principles and is just slower about enacting them. Every "conservative" party has the policies that a liberal party had 10 years ago. To truly fight against cultural degradation you have to strike at the root of liberal philosophy.
The Right after 1945 went for Classical Liberalism. Classical Liberalism was never ever going to save us from Progressive Liberalism. We got trapped inside the Liberal paradigm. This was probably due to bankrupting ourselves to America and their driver for open borders Globalisation. We got captured by the Woke America Empire has never broke free.
Of course. Conservatism can’t stop progressive values. They will eventually submit. Cruel reality. The only way to stop this is with radical and revolutionary ideas.
Absolutely love Dr. Starkey. As an American I do not completely agree with him about Thomas Jefferson, our Declaration of Independence, and our Constitution. Granted, much of it is based on English Common Law but that is what our Founders knew. They were British subjects before the Revolution. What makes us unique is our 2nd Amendment and focus on individual freedom and liberty.
@PrestonSartorius You do have an excellent point. In the 18th century we did not have much of a standing Army so defense relied on a civilian militia. Currently many Americans consider all law abiding citizens to be militia although that may not have been the intent of our Founders. The Founders enshrined in our Constitution the right to keep and bear arms, which is a God given right, so we could protect ourselves against a corrupt government. Never more important than now. I was not aware that the British Bill of Rights included the right to keep and bear arms.
@PrestonSartorius its happened to the americans too. but not to complete removal.. “One of the things taken out of the curriculum was civics,” Zappa went on to explain. “Civics was a class that used to be required before you could graduate from high school. You were taught what was in the U.S. Constitution. And after all the student rebellions in the Sixties, civics was banished from the student curriculum and was replaced by something called social studies. Here we live in a country that has a fabulous constitution and all these guarantees, a contract between the citizens and the government - nobody knows what’s in it…And so, if you don’t know what your rights are, how can you stand up for them? And furthermore, if you don’t know what’s in the document, how can you care if someone is shredding it?”~frank zappa
@PrestonSartorius The debate in civics class was what i always wanted. or even has to happen. it must be the only form of compelled demand of every party. to prevent tyranny.
@PrestonSartorius how can speach be free if i: ignore it? intentionally manipulate it? or otherwise remove from context? free speach is not done. free speach exists by remainder. by everyone else. where would you foster a culture of debate and tolerance of being wrong. a civics class and debate by extention.
Many definitions of "conservative". I was a Conservative Party activist for 29 years, but I was really a Thatcherite. I allowed my membership to lapse under Cameron, and I'm not going back. These days, with a few exceptions, the UK's Conservative Party is Labour with a pretty blue label.
Thatcher was a Global Capitalist unfortunately not a Nationalist. She let global capitalism move our manufacturing base to the Far East and alot of the working class never recovered. The Right went for Individualism Consumerism and Global Capitalism and has completely failed to conserve ANYTHING of traditional England. Capitalism has been the bulwark for hypa Liberalism, Individualism and Globalisation.
The current bunch of conservative front benchers are a disgrace to the name. But disengagement and demoralization is precisely how to ensure defeat. What's needed is a momentum for the right. Just as corbynite nutters were able to seize the labour party from the hideous blairites so too can national populist conservatives take over the Conservative party
Not sure I can agree that it is patriotism and not nationalism, at least here in the US. The notion that there needs to be homogeneity or everything falls apart is very conservative. Enjoy your vids. Thanks for making them.
Honesty paired with intelligence. In early times people like this were executed, today their character is assassinated and they are cancelled. Fortunately in the case of Mr. Starkey these attempts have failed up to now. Thank God
@21:00 "English is an invented language." Aren't all languages invented? They don't drop like rain from the sky or sprout from the ground like grass. They develop and evolve from noises consciously made in the mouth and throat.
Thank you for adding in our new dictator, Trudeau, in Canada . My father was born to Liverpool. I spend some years there as a teen . I'm 64 now. I still feel some how English even though i was born in toronto. I am so proud to be English Canadian.
@PrestonSartorius Which goes to show you don´t actually know very much about universities. The UK Govt is now enacting laws to promote and protect free speech in British Universities. Such a law was needed B4 now. Wonder why?
@PrestonSartoriusIsn't Cambridge Student Uni who invented the term TERF? And the uni got push back against requiring all religions to be "respected." Now only tolerated. Camb is a madrassa of woke. Sorry for a once great uni is now a woke hole.
I am a conservative and I disagree with a great deal of Dr Starkey’s politics. I do however think the way he has been treated is appalling. My opinion on why he is so loved is as follows: His love of scholarly diligence, his turn of phrase and his oratorical skill. This makes him an excellent educator, regardless of political view.
Professor Starkey is a brilliant and talented man. I pray he starts a true conservative party. Or takes over the directionless moldy Tory party and jump starts it.
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31:35, if the first duty is to the state, and it to you - why do the Conservatives (though not exclusively the C's), never much bother with its duty beyond the middle class? I wonder if David Starkey, has not walked the well trodden path of that puts people out of touch with the large number of struggling people in this country - at what point does one lose the trees for the wood? I did find this talk very interesting. I will ponder further. It seems to reach out the seeds of unified ideology, I'll go no further than that at the moment. Thanks for sharing it.
The Queen also discovered Christianity, did she not? Perhaps the great controversy surround Archbishop Ramsey was the hope of some that the Church of England and the Church of Rome would reunite. I happen to have been a member of both churches, as an American and identify myself as a Catholic in spite of my serious concerns and disagreements with its current moment. I could ramble on; won't.
The man is so obviously very pleased with himself and enjoys showing off his vast knowledge and extraordinary ability to see how things hang together but it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter that someone is conceited, so long as they are worth listening to, and not afraid to say what they think. The Gopal comment is priceless.
That lady in the audience that couldn't answer the basic questions of our government structure is embarrassing. An Englishman had to lecture an adult woman on the basic composition of one of our chambers of government. This is why our country is so screwed right now. Ideologues with no idea of how anything but their feelings work. Schools are more worried about teaching idpol than how our government works. I was livid yelling these answers out. Dear god she's allowed to vote. Caveat: Yes I'm an American living in the UK.
I could do that I have a speech impediment so can do ums & errs and get the title wrong as clearly this person did! It is DR Starkey and NOT MR Starkey.
We use self-imagination to identify with role models. Like superheroes when you are five to seven, then popstars, etc, and a little bit later with say the Royal family or say with some wealthy person on TV et al.
Great talk. Just digressing somewhat... if we talk about today's Conservative Party, even as a broad church which it claims it is, it is far off the Conservative Party under Margaret Thatcher which stood for family and patriotic values and at the same time it lead a market economy that really was one and one which really did make many people better off. Sadly, that kind of Conservative Party won't return for a long time to come, if ever....Frankly speaking, I no longer know what it stands for and it is making such a hash of Brexit. Besides, a highly sophisticated debate.
One thing I don’t get - and that is David’s condemnation of libertarianism along with liberalism. As far as liberalism goes, it s easy to see the dead end where that leads. But for libertarianism - with its values of small government, small state, keep the government/state out of human affairs as much as possible apart from things like defence of course, freedom of speech, freedom of assembly and the values of the enlightenment - what’s his beef with that? I don’t get it. Must be missing something..
That region, practicing that, would be vulnerable to a foreign state with a big military simply invading them. Rights and principles like NAP have to be enforced with threats or actual violence.
@@lapitop4206 how so? A libertarian state would be richer and therefore able to afford a better military than a more big state country. Singapore is a good example of this. Although it's not libertarian it is a free market economy and is richer than all of its bigger neighbours. Or to go historical, it's why an England of 6 or 7 million could always outcompete the much larger nations of France and Spain.
@@DS9TREK Yes ur right, if everyone pays taxes on a big enough military to protect its borders and a police to enforce the laws within he border then that helps the issue. Should the amount of taxes for this force as well as the leaders of it be established through democratic vote? How do u prevent people taking over that democratic system and turn it into voting for more stuff? This is complicated.
Radical individualism is anti-society or rather produces a society with not collective will that is able to resist entryism or invasion ultimately in the long scale
@@bradbarnes1839 Yes, this is why collaboration evolves in nature. Even an organism is a cluster of collaborative cells all working together to help the queen cells; the ovaries or balls producing eggs or sperm. Same principle evolved on a secondary layer in f.ex ants where each ant is working to help the queen on the hive. In these examples the cells all contain the same dna, thus their interests evolutionary align. When you don't share the exact same genes, the interests don't align and you would expect reduced altruism proportional to the extent that the genes differ. This is why diversity, genetically brings conflict, exploitation, deception and even aggression and violence. Diversity is a strength is contradictory to the new theoretical findings in evolutionary biology. Ironically, Richard Dawkins himself, thinks humans can escape this as an exception by overriding it with conscious thought and moral philosophy. But evolution is still operating and humans who go against what's most evolutionary adaptive will be selected out. Or more correctly, genes that tend to make brains that work in their interest will by simple logic become more abundant and out-compete those that don't.
Very stimulating. I have agreed with most of his views. Yet in relation to Hegel, I would place him in 4 of the greatest philosophers who ever lived. The other 3 are Plato, Aristotle and (perhaps controversially) Spinoza. The most overrated philosopher who ever lived - Descartes.
Starkey, your conclusion on the fundamental irrationality of human nature is spot on! At last true words surge up from deep within our breast, The mask is snatched away, reality is left --Lucretius
(fundamental irrationality of human nature) Remember, the current stock of homo sapiens are here thru evolution and importantly natural selection. Natural selection cares nothing for logical rationalism but what behaviors and natural assets which ensure your genes make it in to the next generation. That strategy is highly rational in the biosphere.
I doubt that the French and their Enlightenment (and emphasis on reason) can be blamed for horrors of revolutions. After all it were the English who first executed their monarch Charles I. And it was the English church, protestant in the reign of Elizabeth I and trying to curb the extreme brands such as puritanism, that eventually lead to the rise of militant evangelical, puritan system of beliefs - against which the monarch strained in vain and tried to assert himself - that lead to such a thing as regicide to be possible. More than a century before any French. One might say that the plurality of religious thought, once the floodgate were opened, produced much confidence in ordinary citizens and allowed extreme religious movement to topple the king. Had it stayed Catholic, every cardinal would happily have a mistress and the monarch would be cosy as a bug in a rug. As to patriotism that Dr Starkey advocates: how would he feel about patriotism of people who don't live in a democratic country, but quite a totalitarian one, and professedly love it? would he think it is a great thing too? (I personally think that all patriotism is an unquestioning love for one's country, some sort of exaggerated feeling, a type of bigotry).
The assassinations in the US in the 1960s caused the upheaval in the world. The atonement was to withdraw from Vietnam, award civil rights and give more power to student activists. The activists recognized their power and have taken it to the extreme because they are afraid of assissination as it became clear that no one was off limits..
er.... you can have a sense & deep love of your own place, town, country, history & culture, etc, be VERY patriotic, AND feel entirely comfortable & live with other cultures, languages, without feeling threatened, or diminished, or otherwise... or get your knickers in a twist about Rousseau`s writing, which I read too btw, a long time ago...
As a Christian socialist , I think that you'll find modern Anglicans more Labour' & LD voters at prayer, fighting the reactionary House of Bishops. Always refreshing to hear Dr Starkey except when he confuses England with Britain and airs his Europhobic musings. Let's hear it for Matthew Paris 🇪🇺
The joy of the Anglican communion is that it holds/accepts/embraces a very broad collection of views, to claim the house of bishops is entirely reactionary is a little unfair, as unlike other Christian churches it is entirely possible to have both members with catholic and protestant leaning views worshiping in harmony under the same roof. To claim majority support for certain political parties is also wrong, again its a broad church, what is true in one parish is very wrong in others politically. If you want examples of right wing support feel free to visit the communion's parishes in the USA or Africa. You are right about Dr Starkey's swapping of British/English .. but given his erudition I do wonder if it is deliberate and possible mischievous.
Unfortunately it has the outcomes. We ve left the customs Union and all that entails for our exporters and and Ireland Putin and Trump are very happy , wonder why?
I cannot agree with Dr Starkey on the claim that English is an invented and a very new language: what about Aelfred the Great and his translation of the Latin Bible, or parts of it, into Englisc?
@PrestonSartorius Quite right: Middle English is not an invented tongue for the simple reason that no one person, or committee, or series of committees wrought it: it developed out of many streams and from several factors, only one of which, and by far from the earliest, was Chaucer.
Indeed. This is never discussed. Women voting is what led to the huge state, huge welfare dependency and a collapse of the birth rate. We've been circling the drain ever since.
@@DS9TREK 🙄 is not an argument. It is thanks to women and their voting habits that we have a massive bloated welfare state. Thanks to feminism and women's voting habits we have so many single mums dependent on the state. Thanks to feminism we have a birth rate well below replacement rate as women to busy riding the carousel.
Universal suffrage is definitely destroying the conservative west; tho it’s already dead and is now progressive with minimal boundaries and sense of rationale boundaries.
@@FazeParticles I remember reading a debate from early in US history about the franchise being expanded past the ranks of taxpayers (then a fairly small percentage of adult male population as small holders were exempt from property tax) and the opposing speaker pointed out that if you allowed universal suffrage it would only be a matter of time before voters realized they could vote themselves largesse at the public expense. That pretty much entirely describes modern Western politics.
Interesting, David. I thoroughly agree with you, & I thoroughly disagree with you-Yes, we are indeed social & cultural "products"-but we are NOT just that...
having worked with ppl from all over the world, from ages of 6 to 86,as well as just being a human on the planet, I can confirm that YES, there IS such a thing as a universal human nature-it is precisely the specific society & culture which separates ppl. I profoundly disagree with you on this. You don t need to be German to be a Nazi, nor do you need to be Brazilian to appreciate a samba or a bossa nova.
@@nickjung7394 Nothing in particular, just an observation. I find it somewhat endearing. Especially in an age when everyone wants to pretend they're ashamed to be English.
Cogently argued ... for another age. The unprecedented crisis humanity faces now is supra-national. In the light of it, the audience and the speaker both seem dangerously small-minded.
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Dr. Starkey, I would love to join, will check it out. I am an American who has always loved British history and the Monarchy. Have watched your lectures for years.
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I think the lack of patriotism is a massive change. One set of my grandparents were labour voters, the other set were conservative voters but both sets were patriots.
Globalisation which the centre Right have embraced has at its heart the rejection of the nation state.
The Right went for Individualism Consumerism and Global Capitalism and has completely failed to conserve anything of traditional England unfortunately.
@@evolassunglasses4673 Unfortunately I think both sides of the aisle are singing from the same hymn sheet where globalisation is concerned. On traditional England I realised it was done when everyone so tamely accepted all the mandates through covid. I was astonished tbh. A fundamental part or even perhaps THE fundamental part of the English character is our demand for liberty. It's been woven into the culture of England for as long as there's been England, yet either there's a major shift in what it is to be English that's happened or the true English (I mean the cultural English and nothing so base as ethnicity or skin colour etc as David Starkey points out) are on the verge of drifting into an almost barely recognised extinction.
@Ram Rod Poorer and angrier than now? Jesus.
Beware of politicians waving flags.
The post war generation had the sixties revolution, strikes in the 1970s and 1980s, good pensions, jobs, cheap housing or rent.
The generation that broke the back of traditional UK values.
The greatest closing line to a speech I've ever heard: "The Archbishop of Canterbury. The infinitely failing figure of Welby, a man who celebrated holy communion during lockdown in front... of a.... kitchen... cabinet."
Whilst thinking that there's a sky man that is listening.
@@seanmoran2743 Religion still has lots of power as you well know. Too much.
You are one beer sort of a round
@@seanmoran2743 what?
@Sean Moran: Well that was certainly a convincing argument in favour of theism. 🤦
Sublime, particularly the closing comment of the speech. A figure like Dr. Starkey should be celebrated in this country, not relegated to the cellar.
Like some jumped up pantry boy.
@@wungabunga Looks as though we have a difference of opinion.
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Oh dear, I seem to have upset a couple of people with my comment. I’m sure you’re happy to allow me a view despite our differing positions.
Oh my god! I'm not worthy! I'm American, and I'm serious! Immense amounts of gratitude to David Starkey!
It’s all banter! :-) x
@@manmaje3596 Banter is uniquely British. Abrasive sarcasm. This isn't banter.
Stay in America
@@derekruairc334 If Americans has stayed home in 1944, Du würdest Deutsch sprechen.
@@bobblue_west Ich spreche Deutsch, meine Liebe.
So wonderful to hear someone who knows what they're talking about. A genuinely clever, clear thinking, honest man. The world, it seems to me, is plagued right now, I guess it always was, by clever dummies whose discourse is either deeply dishonest or mad - I can't work out which.
The blight of pseudo-intellectualism
@@dmd9080 Also - the fact you can be very bright - and also very bad - and/or fundamentally mad.
As a non CoE, Christian, I love Mr Starkey’s views on the church, God and culture. He can be right and wrong and right in the same thought! Nevertheless, the older I get and the more I know, the more I am glad I am a Christian. By the way, there is nothing to conserve…that ship has sailed.
Glad to hear the powerful condemnation of Archibishop Welby. The kitchen celebration of Holy Communion in a time of a pandemic was shameful then compounded by CofE refusal to allow any Clergy into their own Churches. The distress this caused was shameful.
A relative of mine died from Covid. You can stick your "freedom" up your libertarian arse.
A relative of mine died during covid, I was prevented from visiting during their final months, unable to share a final hug, unable to thank them for the loving impact on my life.
You can shove your authoritarianism up your illiberal arse.
Thank you David, really enjoyed listening. I know you are not a Christian, but may God bless you
Karma will visit those who are voluntarily ignorant. God bless those who protect the vulnerable.
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Looking forward to this. I have attended a few of your historical lectures in the past and this will be new.
Being totally honest, some of it was over my head. I get the basic Liberal, Labour and Conservative differences, but get lost after that. I'm not a Cambridge student and I appreciate that was his target audience, but I can at least listen in and enjoy the journey he takes us on. How lucky are we he is posting on RUclips and we get to subscribe and learn that way.
You are right to be confused. Each of those political parties no longer represents what it used to. Tories aren't conservative, Labour no longer represent the working class, and liberals reject free speech. They get away with this slight of hand by claiming parties are "a broad church". A church so broad that it is the opposite of what everyone assumes it to be. That's quite a trick.
His language is too advanced for me listen to freely. I need to go break it down and absorb it slowly lol.
@@borderlands6606 Not all that dissimilar from US where parties have reversed. In my 50s 60s childhood Republicans were the party of the professional class and Democrats the working class (that's an oversimplification of course) and now the exact opposite is true.
@@mikegalvin9801 Republicans in the 50's and 60's were also small town America, Main St. small businesses and farmers.
@@kevinmorgan8534 True, except in the South where such people would have been Democrats. Also there were regional outliers like Minnesota and Wisconsin which had large rural Democratic populations. Then there was the ethnic factor. My dad was from Minneapolis and his family were Dems because they were Irish Catholics in spite of his stepfather being a doctor which normally would have been a Republican professional type. By the 60s dad had moved quietly into the GOP and my Episcopalian raised mom of course had always been Republican. A different world. (Their mixed marriage - Catholic and Protestant - was a HUGE deal in 1953 tho who would even notice it now)
David. We met at a conservative gay group. I have never forgotten you.
My partner Richard Cunliffe died 10 years ago. He was involved with Quest the RC gay group
Very Educational = = Thank You.
Disraeli said Everything is about Race. The truth that can no longer speak its name.
Marvellous speech! Bravo 💪
David Starkey is intelligent and brutally honest ,that’s why he gets cancelled by the woke clowns
Unfortunately he pretends that liberals are just organic institutions, while we know they are funded and organized by the world government.
He isnt, he choose the fake conservatism if Boris and trump, he seems to want to make his cancelation ok in hindsight with his childish behaviour.
Canceled? His ugly mug is all over RUclips & the beeb can't get enough of the old windbag. You fake "conservatives" own everything & yet you are terrified of those who are smarter than you(the Woke). Get a grip.
You want brutal honesty. Have a look at mental health figures. Conservatism embraced neo-liberalism. It deserves a kicking. Starkey is a dinosaur. You, my friend, are a bone-collector.
Funny how the clowns who hate Conservatives turn out just to spout irrational nonsense. Exactly what you'd expect of the far left.
That moment before you go to bed and something like this pops up. Gaahh... I'm not in my 30's anymore. I have a hard day ahead of me and need my sleep. I also have two kids to deal with in the morning. :(
HUNGARY
What the neighbours say:
As a government spokesman explained last year:
“What we need is not numbers, but Hungarian children: we’re not seeking to sustain an economic system, but Hungary, the Hungarian nation and Hungarian history; we want to encourage the continuation of our families.”
WOW! Somebody from the government saying: “We’re not seeking to sustain an economic system, but Our Nation, Hungary!
Isn’t it Dr. David Starkey?
Yes, PhD in history from Fitzwilliam College, Cambridge in the 1970s.
Absolutely brilliant. A really fascinating, informative and entertaining discussion.
Bollox. You listened to what bias you want to hear.
Should be required listening for any one who still thinks that they are for freedom in a competitive and complex world
Again brilliant
The only thing new is the history you don't know, Pres. Harry S. Truman. History and government classes definitely need teachers that bring it to life. I had a government teacher in high school who said " Government is dynamic not static". She actually contacted Pres Nixon and he called the next day to speak over the pa system to the whole school.
It was awfully nice of Alan Partridge to interview Dr. Starkey.
I walked in late to this event, but at least I got a pic with David at the end.
A national treasure.
I really enjoyed this talk.
Having been raised in a welfare family my early influences were from those with little work ethic and no political interest at all. I would say my parents aunts and uncles were liberal in an old fashioned New Zealand kinda way, having grown up in Christchurch NZ during the 80s and 90s.
I had fleeting interactions with those that people might regard as conservative. (Some extended family. Those that I came across at the likes of, Youth group and Church, School and later into my working life.)
Without any promotion from those nearest to me, I have found myself leaning towards being conservative and more and more being completely put off by the political Left.
The trouble with the Left are that they largely come from rich families and seem to think they know what is good for you. And if you don't agree you are Satan personified.
One of the most laughable recent events was when Alexandria Ocasia Cortez went to function with a dress with 'Tax the Rich' written largess on it. The minimum entrance fee for a ticket was $25000 and some paid over $300000.
Perhaps the dress should have said 'Tax Me'. Obviously more money than sense.
I'm sure her posh friends found it all frightfully amusing.
T'was also interesting that Central and Southern American imigrants into the US voted for Trump (another seriously rich person - so he says - ironically) more than might be expected. One of the chief reasons given was that they had come to the US to get away from people like Ms Cortez as they had seen it all before there. Another example of how out of touch some of these politicans really are.
Gross
It sounds like you're growing up. Most adults find the left revolting on multiple fronts
Captivating and thoroughly interesting address David. I would wager that alot of your subscribers, like myself, to hear you talk through an autobiographical account of your life. An hour or hour and a half would be expected and enjoyable ??
Why would you not introduce him as Dr David Starkey?
Maybe the 11 boy was nervous in front of a room full of adults
@Joanna Moore He should have practiced it with his peers & tutors.
Conservatism always loses, because it fundamentally agrees with liberal principles and is just slower about enacting them. Every "conservative" party has the policies that a liberal party had 10 years ago. To truly fight against cultural degradation you have to strike at the root of liberal philosophy.
The Right after 1945 went for Classical Liberalism. Classical Liberalism was never ever going to save us from Progressive Liberalism. We got trapped inside the Liberal paradigm.
This was probably due to bankrupting ourselves to America and their driver for open borders Globalisation. We got captured by the Woke America Empire has never broke free.
@@evolassunglasses4673 We in America are equally trapped in the post-ww2 liberal consensus.
Perhaps the reason that Conservatism always loses, is because it's torchbearers have forgotten it's meaning and value .
Of course. Conservatism can’t stop progressive values. They will eventually submit. Cruel reality. The only way to stop this is with radical and revolutionary ideas.
There's nothing like Dr Starkey talking about what makes England England and how it contrasts with other nations and systems of government
What an interesting look into a fascinating mind
Absolutely love Dr. Starkey. As an American I do not completely agree with him about Thomas Jefferson, our Declaration of Independence, and our Constitution. Granted, much of it is based on English Common Law but that is what our Founders knew. They were British subjects before the Revolution. What makes us unique is our 2nd Amendment and focus on individual freedom and liberty.
also Free Speech and Secular state .... the first two elements in the 1st Amendment. The UK could use both of those ASAP.
@PrestonSartorius You do have an excellent point. In the 18th century we did not have much of a standing Army so defense relied on a civilian militia. Currently many Americans consider all law abiding citizens to be militia although that may not have been the intent of our Founders. The Founders enshrined in our Constitution the right to keep and bear arms, which is a God given right, so we could protect ourselves against a corrupt government. Never more important than now. I was not aware that the British Bill of Rights included the right to keep and bear arms.
@@bobblue_west we did at the time of the revolution
@@Dave-ks9fi Hi, did what at which revolution? Ta.
@@bobblue_west have the right to bear arms
The host.... was having a 'I'm more Conservative than you are'...moment.
Fantastic again DS 👍👍👍👍
Or: Why I'm not batshitcrazy.
The first problem we face is: how do we reconcile the fall in civics? I only learned of magna carta after i left school. OF my own volition.
That's tragic. Im sure you were probably however taught all the most fashionable absurdities flowing freshly from the Universities
@@bradbarnes1839 I move through 7 schools before i got to my career. the street or accurately experiance. taught me first.
@PrestonSartorius its happened to the americans too. but not to complete removal..
“One of the things taken out of the curriculum was civics,” Zappa went on to explain. “Civics was a class that used to be required before you could graduate from high school. You were taught what was in the U.S. Constitution. And after all the student rebellions in the Sixties, civics was banished from the student curriculum and was replaced by something called social studies. Here we live in a country that has a fabulous constitution and all these guarantees, a contract between the citizens and the government - nobody knows what’s in it…And so, if you don’t know what your rights are, how can you stand up for them? And furthermore, if you don’t know what’s in the document, how can you care if someone is shredding it?”~frank zappa
@PrestonSartorius The debate in civics class was what i always wanted. or even has to happen. it must be the only form of compelled demand of every party. to prevent tyranny.
@PrestonSartorius how can speach be free if i: ignore it? intentionally manipulate it? or otherwise remove from context? free speach is not done. free speach exists by remainder. by everyone else. where would you foster a culture of debate and tolerance of being wrong. a civics class and debate by extention.
Thank you
It's interesting for one of my generation to hear the young chairman addressing Dr Starkey as "David"!
Absolutely priceless the notion that large section of minorities in UK feel eponymous with USA rather than British identity.
Many definitions of "conservative".
I was a Conservative Party activist for 29 years, but I was really a Thatcherite.
I allowed my membership to lapse under Cameron, and I'm not going back.
These days, with a few exceptions, the UK's Conservative Party is Labour with a pretty blue label.
Thatcher was a Global Capitalist unfortunately not a Nationalist.
She let global capitalism move our manufacturing base to the Far East and alot of the working class never recovered.
The Right went for Individualism Consumerism and Global Capitalism and has completely failed to conserve ANYTHING of traditional England. Capitalism has been the bulwark for hypa Liberalism, Individualism and Globalisation.
The current bunch of conservative front benchers are a disgrace to the name.
But disengagement and demoralization is precisely how to ensure defeat.
What's needed is a momentum for the right. Just as corbynite nutters were able to seize the labour party from the hideous blairites so too can national populist conservatives take over the Conservative party
One of his greatest speeches. Bravo Sir!
0:12 MISTER David Starkey???? I think not. This man has a doctorate and a title reflecting it. Use it.
Sir Richard Starkey when referring to The Beatles drummer as well. These things are really important and worth commenting on
Omg. A human void.
As an American, I regard David Starkey as a national treasure held in trust by our Motherland.
"You can have me for dinner" haha wow. The stiff moderator either didn't catch that or was constitutionally unable to have a laugh
They need to stop letting him by interviewed by rosy cheeked boys. They derail David each time.
God we need more people like Starkey.
Progressive alert.
Thank you for an hour well-spent.
I don't care what political party you vote for. I like listening and watching your videos because you make history interesting.
Not sure I can agree that it is patriotism and not nationalism, at least here in the US. The notion that there needs to be homogeneity or everything falls apart is very conservative. Enjoy your vids. Thanks for making them.
Man shall not live by bread alone. The metaphysical dimension to human life is essential.
David, another of those who challenges you to think not follow. Why do we dismiss people like him?
Honesty paired with intelligence. In early times people like this were executed, today their character is assassinated and they are cancelled. Fortunately in the case of Mr. Starkey these attempts have failed up to now. Thank God
@21:00 "English is an invented language." Aren't all languages invented? They don't drop like rain from the sky or sprout from the ground like grass. They develop and evolve from noises consciously made in the mouth and throat.
Sincere conversations with God and to one another beloved availeth much indeed. Keep it pop!
Thank you for adding in our new dictator, Trudeau, in Canada . My father was born to Liverpool. I spend some years there as a teen . I'm 64 now. I still feel some how English even though i was born in toronto. I am so proud to be English Canadian.
Love this man
I'm shocked! At Cambridge I am surprised the room wasn't storm by a battalion of woke warriors.
@PrestonSartorius Which goes to show you don´t actually know very much about universities. The UK Govt is now enacting laws to promote and protect free speech in British Universities. Such a law was needed B4 now. Wonder why?
@PrestonSartoriusIsn't Cambridge Student Uni who invented the term TERF? And the uni got push back against requiring all religions to be "respected." Now only tolerated. Camb is a madrassa of woke. Sorry for a once great uni is now a woke hole.
I am a conservative and I disagree with a great deal of Dr Starkey’s politics. I do however think the way he has been treated is appalling. My opinion on why he is so loved is as follows: His love of scholarly diligence, his turn of phrase and his oratorical skill. This makes him an excellent educator, regardless of political view.
Professor Starkey is a brilliant and talented man. I pray he starts a true conservative party. Or takes over the directionless moldy Tory party and jump starts it.
Starkey is SO brilliant
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bravo,, again
Very interesting
Just wonderful, l'm not educated enough to understand half of what he is talking about but l love listening anyway!
The fact that you listen and enjoy indicates you are educated more highly than a vast portion of the so called educated.
31:35, if the first duty is to the state, and it to you - why do the Conservatives (though not exclusively the C's), never much bother with its duty beyond the middle class?
I wonder if David Starkey, has not walked the well trodden path of that puts people out of touch with the large number of struggling people in this country - at what point does one lose the trees for the wood?
I did find this talk very interesting. I will ponder further. It seems to reach out the seeds of unified ideology, I'll go no further than that at the moment.
Thanks for sharing it.
The Queen also discovered Christianity, did she not? Perhaps the great controversy surround Archbishop Ramsey was the hope of some that the Church of England and the Church of Rome would reunite. I happen to have been a member of both churches, as an American and identify myself as a Catholic in spite of my serious concerns and disagreements with its current moment. I could ramble on; won't.
The man is so obviously very pleased with himself and enjoys showing off his vast knowledge and extraordinary ability to see how things hang together but it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter that someone is conceited, so long as they are worth listening to, and not afraid to say what they think. The Gopal comment is priceless.
That lady in the audience that couldn't answer the basic questions of our government structure is embarrassing. An Englishman had to lecture an adult woman on the basic composition of one of our chambers of government. This is why our country is so screwed right now. Ideologues with no idea of how anything but their feelings work. Schools are more worried about teaching idpol than how our government works. I was livid yelling these answers out. Dear god she's allowed to vote. Caveat: Yes I'm an American living in the UK.
very interesting
Wanted: Person to introduce speakers. Must be able to say um, um, err, um, err a lot. We are an equal-opportunities employer.
I could do that I have a speech impediment so can do ums & errs and get the title wrong as clearly this person did! It is DR Starkey and NOT MR Starkey.
Whatever happened to David Starkey? He disappeared rather abruptly.
We use self-imagination to identify with role models. Like superheroes when you are five to seven, then popstars, etc, and a little bit later with say the Royal family or say with some wealthy person on TV et al.
True Conservatives are rare indeed.
Great talk. Just digressing somewhat... if we talk about today's Conservative Party, even as a broad church which it claims it is, it is far off the Conservative Party under Margaret Thatcher which stood for family and patriotic values and at the same time it lead a market economy that really was one and one which really did make many people better off. Sadly, that kind of Conservative Party won't return for a long time to come, if ever....Frankly speaking, I no longer know what it stands for and it is making such a hash of Brexit. Besides, a highly sophisticated debate.
One thing I don’t get - and that is David’s condemnation of libertarianism along with liberalism. As far as liberalism goes, it s easy to see the dead end where that leads. But for libertarianism - with its values of small government, small state, keep the government/state out of human affairs as much as possible apart from things like defence of course, freedom of speech, freedom of assembly and the values of the enlightenment - what’s his beef with that? I don’t get it.
Must be missing something..
That region, practicing that, would be vulnerable to a foreign state with a big military simply invading them.
Rights and principles like NAP have to be enforced with threats or actual violence.
@@lapitop4206 how so? A libertarian state would be richer and therefore able to afford a better military than a more big state country.
Singapore is a good example of this. Although it's not libertarian it is a free market economy and is richer than all of its bigger neighbours.
Or to go historical, it's why an England of 6 or 7 million could always outcompete the much larger nations of France and Spain.
@@DS9TREK Yes ur right, if everyone pays taxes on a big enough military to protect its borders and a police to enforce the laws within he border then that helps the issue. Should the amount of taxes for this force as well as the leaders of it be established through democratic vote? How do u prevent people taking over that democratic system and turn it into voting for more stuff? This is complicated.
Radical individualism is anti-society or rather produces a society with not collective will that is able to resist entryism or invasion ultimately in the long scale
@@bradbarnes1839 Yes, this is why collaboration evolves in nature. Even an organism is a cluster of collaborative cells all working together to help the queen cells; the ovaries or balls producing eggs or sperm. Same principle evolved on a secondary layer in f.ex ants where each ant is working to help the queen on the hive.
In these examples the cells all contain the same dna, thus their interests evolutionary align.
When you don't share the exact same genes, the interests don't align and you would expect reduced altruism proportional to the extent that the genes differ. This is why diversity, genetically brings conflict, exploitation, deception and even aggression and violence.
Diversity is a strength is contradictory to the new theoretical findings in evolutionary biology.
Ironically, Richard Dawkins himself, thinks humans can escape this as an exception by overriding it with conscious thought and moral philosophy.
But evolution is still operating and humans who go against what's most evolutionary adaptive will be selected out. Or more correctly, genes that tend to make brains that work in their interest will by simple logic become more abundant and out-compete those that don't.
Very stimulating. I have agreed with most of his views. Yet in relation to Hegel, I would place him in 4 of the greatest philosophers who ever lived. The other 3 are Plato, Aristotle and (perhaps controversially) Spinoza. The most overrated philosopher who ever lived - Descartes.
Oof! Brilliant, as always ❤
Starkey, your conclusion on the fundamental irrationality of human nature is spot on!
At last true words surge up from deep within our breast, The mask is snatched away, reality is left --Lucretius
(fundamental irrationality of human nature) Remember, the current stock of homo sapiens are here thru evolution and importantly natural selection. Natural selection cares nothing for logical rationalism but what behaviors and natural assets which ensure your genes make it in to the next generation. That strategy is highly rational in the biosphere.
Crazy subtitles...
I doubt that the French and their Enlightenment (and emphasis on reason) can be blamed for horrors of revolutions. After all it were the English who first executed their monarch Charles I. And it was the English church, protestant in the reign of Elizabeth I and trying to curb the extreme brands such as puritanism, that eventually lead to the rise of militant evangelical, puritan system of beliefs - against which the monarch strained in vain and tried to assert himself - that lead to such a thing as regicide to be possible. More than a century before any French. One might say that the plurality of religious thought, once the floodgate were opened, produced much confidence in ordinary citizens and allowed extreme religious movement to topple the king. Had it stayed Catholic, every cardinal would happily have a mistress and the monarch would be cosy as a bug in a rug. As to patriotism that Dr Starkey advocates: how would he feel about patriotism of people who don't live in a democratic country, but quite a totalitarian one, and professedly love it? would he think it is a great thing too? (I personally think that all patriotism is an unquestioning love for one's country, some sort of exaggerated feeling, a type of bigotry).
Very good. Thanks for your points, very valid 😊
The assassinations in the US in the 1960s caused the upheaval in the world. The atonement was to withdraw from Vietnam, award civil rights and give more power to student activists. The activists recognized their power and have taken it to the extreme because they are afraid of assissination as it became clear that no one was off limits..
He's To Honourable to be a MP, but he gets my Vote !
God. They gave you the vote?
"It is the job of progressives to keep on making mistakes, it is the job of conservatives to prevent them from being rectified." (GKC)
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The breeding ground for future conservative MP's & Ministers - god help us!
er.... you can have a sense & deep love of your own place, town, country, history & culture, etc, be VERY patriotic, AND feel entirely comfortable & live with other cultures, languages, without feeling threatened, or diminished, or otherwise... or get your knickers in a twist about Rousseau`s writing, which I read too btw, a long time ago...
Just saying that we are 'created' equal implies faith in God as a creator. If God is thrown out, the assertion becomes moot.
38:10 Was he hitting on him? 😂
The C of E as the Tory Party at prayer...
As a Christian socialist , I think that you'll find modern Anglicans more Labour' & LD voters at prayer, fighting the reactionary House of Bishops. Always refreshing to hear Dr Starkey except when he confuses England with Britain and airs his Europhobic musings. Let's hear it for Matthew Paris 🇪🇺
The joy of the Anglican communion is that it holds/accepts/embraces a very broad collection of views, to claim the house of bishops is entirely reactionary is a little unfair, as unlike other Christian churches it is entirely possible to have both members with catholic and protestant leaning views worshiping in harmony under the same roof. To claim majority support for certain political parties is also wrong, again its a broad church, what is true in one parish is very wrong in others politically. If you want examples of right wing support feel free to visit the communion's parishes in the USA or Africa. You are right about Dr Starkey's swapping of British/English .. but given his erudition I do wonder if it is deliberate and possible mischievous.
I'm looking at Othodox Christianity.
@@willhovell9019 being anti EU isn't the same as being anti European, just saying.
Unfortunately it has the outcomes. We ve left the customs Union and all that entails for our exporters and and Ireland Putin and Trump are very happy , wonder why?
Douglas Murray in another 40years?
I cannot agree with Dr Starkey on the claim that English is an invented and a very new language: what about Aelfred the Great and his translation of the Latin Bible, or parts of it, into Englisc?
@PrestonSartorius Quite right: Middle English is not an invented tongue for the simple reason that no one person, or committee, or series of committees wrought it: it developed out of many streams and from several factors, only one of which, and by far from the earliest, was Chaucer.
Ffs in future, have a couple of microphones for audience questions.
He makes a great point about the results of letting women vote, even if he doesn't realize it.
Indeed. This is never discussed. Women voting is what led to the huge state, huge welfare dependency and a collapse of the birth rate. We've been circling the drain ever since.
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@@DS9TREK 🙄 is not an argument. It is thanks to women and their voting habits that we have a massive bloated welfare state. Thanks to feminism and women's voting habits we have so many single mums dependent on the state. Thanks to feminism we have a birth rate well below replacement rate as women to busy riding the carousel.
Universal suffrage is definitely destroying the conservative west; tho it’s already dead and is now progressive with minimal boundaries and sense of rationale boundaries.
@@FazeParticles I remember reading a debate from early in US history about the franchise being expanded past the ranks of taxpayers (then a fairly small percentage of adult male population as small holders were exempt from property tax) and the opposing speaker pointed out that if you allowed universal suffrage it would only be a matter of time before voters realized they could vote themselves largesse at the public expense. That pretty much entirely describes modern Western politics.
No one needs to explain why they are Conservative. For better or worse there is no credible alternative.
Interesting, David. I thoroughly agree with you, & I thoroughly disagree with you-Yes, we are indeed social & cultural "products"-but we are NOT just that...
having worked with ppl from all over the world, from ages of 6 to 86,as well as just being a human on the planet, I can confirm that YES, there IS such a thing as a universal human nature-it is precisely the specific society & culture which separates ppl. I profoundly disagree with you on this. You don t need to be German to be a Nazi, nor do you need to be Brazilian to appreciate a samba or a bossa nova.
Um. Right. Um. Er. And. Um... Great intro.
We forgive Mr. Starkey for his ugly red socks.
The emcee talks like Jacob Rees Mogg, and looks 12 years old.
So what?
@@nickjung7394 Nothing in particular, just an observation. I find it somewhat endearing. Especially in an age when everyone wants to pretend they're ashamed to be English.
Indeed 😜
Cogently argued ... for another age. The unprecedented crisis humanity faces now is supra-national. In the light of it, the audience and the speaker both seem dangerously small-minded.