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@@belindamay8063 Because there are a series defence mechanism in place that prevents a genuine 'right wing' ever gaining traction or even being heard. " The Right" or 'Right Wing"is another term that has been subverted and is meaningless today. What they want you to believe is 'right wing'' today, such as conservative and similar parties at best, are left of centre. And that has all been done by design..
When the ship's helm is swung portside (left), passengers whose gaze remains fixed on the old course (centre) inevitably now appear to the rest as looking starboard (right). 😊😊
Cabal of racist revisionist idiots. Fare-the-well Tory UK hooligans. We are each and every one of us immigrants, with the conspicuous exception of the displaced indigenous peoples.
I always enjoy listening to Starkey. His erudition is amazing. His attitude to religion is a perfect example of post enlightenment thinking. The idea of any kind of absolute truth based on irrational dogma is the same whether its about folk nailed to anything or women's ability to have penises regardless of how many words of self serving, impenetrable, sophistry you accumulate, apply a little basic reason and the whole shebang disappears up its own bahookie. This fact alone explains the hysterical, defence they put up against facts and reason.
Most European royal families including the former Russian, Bulgarian, Greek,Romanian and other families had huge dosages of German blood in them - Bulgaria was ruled by the Coburgs and Gothas,Romania belonged to the house of Hohenzollern -Kaiser William's royal house,Belgium is also a Saxe Coburg and Gotha, The Danish royals and therefore the Greeks are from the German house of Oldenburg and therefore also the Norwegians. Russian Romanovs were hugely German because of chronic intermarriage with minor German royalty like the house of Hesse.(The last tsarina Alexandra was from Hesse Darmstadt.) There's a German under every royal bed!
England has had Aquitanian, Portuguese, Spanish,Provencal,French,Danish,Italian,German,Flemish,Scottish and other royal consorts -as a matter of fact up until recently they were almost always foreign!@@EF5Winds
The key to understanding medieval European history is not to follow the histories of the different countries as we have them today but of the different royal dynasties that were prominent like the Bourbons, Habsburgs, Hohenzollerns, Guelphs and many others -these families collected countries as properties in the same way that an investor collects properties in his investment portfolio. When a king married a princess from another country she often brought that whole country or regions of it as her dowry. The Austrian Habsburgs were notorious for this -largely through marriage they managed to become a mega power from very modest beginnings in Switzerland they acquired Austria, then Burgundy and the Low countries through marriage and eventually Spain through marriage and Spain's overseas empire to form "The empire on which the sun never set." These royal marriages were also the reason for the 100 years war between England and France because the English king Edward III believed he had more right to the French throne than the French Valois candidate -Edward's mother Isabella was the daughter of the former French king.@@EF5Winds
Let's talk about the crux of the issue - the indigenous British people are being broken up and displaced. They will become a minority in their own country in the near future.
Has Dr Starkey looked into the middle ages? Because I've been hearing quite different things than what he's talking about here, and I suspect he might rely on biased accounts.
That egregious Ash Sarkar said it out loud once when commenting on the rising migrant muslim population in the UK. She said "we're winning lads" its as simple as that for these people.
Who needs a fighting force invasion when you can take over via the ballot box?! Look at the politicians & ideological landscape in Luton & Bradford, for example. Islam - Incompatible. Incongruous. Irreconcilable.
I find myself wondering whether Dr. Starkey, who professes atheism, has a far greater insight into and sympathy with Christianity than the Archbishop of Canterbury.
To be an atheist does not necessitate disdain for religion. I appreciate the wisdom in Judeo-Christian values. However, given the anthropomorphic origins of mythology of all types, I can appreciate the sublime human creativity in wrapping our own morality in fictional allegory for example; merely rejecting divine provenance is not in any way irrational.
Amusingly I got an advert extolling the pleasures and virtues of "sending money back home" to India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal, "and 100 other countries". That's the kind of immigrant we have.
That might be a tad too factual, and with no, truth warning. Tut, tut. Seriously, h o w much money 'exits' the country? Is this on a par with an industry? The costs of ------- defence, that's M5/5, GCHQ, and the Anti terrorist, north, south, regional? Are these in some way complicit, or have they just, practically, bottled it? They can't identify who makes s/media, all the rape and murder threats? But banks, the ESG, algorithms can? It would be interesting to know the reasons different ------ have been de-banked.?
Yep, need to take all those remittances into account when evaluating economic impact of immigration, and the extra policing costs, the great expense of Jihad defence, and so so much more. What a mess.
@@joedias7946 no they have jobs in the illegal economy whilst they collect benefits and they send that abroad, yet an other drain on us. Natives would not do that.
@@RichardEnglanderand they have lawyers, social workers and charities to do it for them. Then we have to pay for their multiple families, all given houses & financial support for life. They are not all " engineers, doctors, nurses..."
How I wish David Starkey was in Government. His wisdom and feel for the country is precisely what we need. Alas, we don't actually have a functioning government in the U.K. at present. We're in freefall. It's very worrying.
His argument is for open borders. You already have that under the conservatives. Do you want paid immigration? I'm not sure how you can have more of what he's talking about. He thinks Britain is uniquely wonderful, and everyone should want to join.
Dr Starkey: You really do need to factor in the Islamic JIHAD concept; given that so many of these young males are Muslim. They are not merely pitching up here in the hope of "improving their lives", as you seem to think: but in order to take our Country off us for ISLAM. This is about conquest: not "improving one's life".
There may well come a time when people realise they've been lied to and possibly over react. Or we may continue into oblivion. A rosey outcome is probably the least likely.
It's easier to fool someone than to convince them they have been fooled. There's too many who still believe that all those who arrive here are fleeing war or conflict. It is easier to believe that than the truth that this govt are happy to allow them to exploit us mercilessly.
3:55 Foe was wrong, the Romans left almost no trace of their tribe in the British Isles' lineage, and the English, Normans, Danes & Huguenots are all of the same ethnicity, with close similarities to each other culturally apart from the French language the Normans had recently adopted.
Cemeteries are full of people who thought or were thought of as indispensable, some of whom have now fallen into oblivion. I don't worry like you, there will always be people who'll stand out from the crowd to carry the banner for justice.
Everytime I looked at the timestamp and realised I wasn't even half way through this yet, was a tremendously joyful feeling itself. What a great discussion! Starkey's mellifluous mastery of the English language and facts is like a fine wine. I wish he'd put all of it into a new book. Thank you
No Starkey the figure was 1.2 million. But quite a lot of people left many of whom were probably native Brits so the disaster is far worse than net figures demonstrate.
I feel very sorry for our amazing Country ... but I clearly see that Britain, once a proud and prosperous Nation, is now on the verge of committing suicide! Our forefathers are looking at us with deep disapproval and shame...
He could talk, and does talk, for ages on topics that he has an encyclopedic knowledge. With knowledge and an engaging manner. Could listen to thid man for hours.
i always thought that the main group of people that built London and many other British Cities plus railways ect.were Irish i for one one didnt notice many indians or any other ethnic groups involved do think it would be a kindness to inform the descendants of the Navvies and present Irish workers they didnt do it?.
Exactly!! There was such utter hostility towards the Irish, too. The so called immigrants of today do not care about us, they are here to take over with their uncivilised, medieval religion that is intolerant and is divisive. The generation of immigrants previously actually helped to build us our infrastructure and technology. Those who did that have had generations of children doing the same. Previously, immigrants arrived here, as in most developed countries, to contribute to the society it inhabits. We all have the right to say enough is enough & it no longer benefits us to intake anyone who arrives here without question. That's how it should be, we don't owe these people anything! Just because we had immigrants before doesn't mean we need to keep doing it, it only causes problems & is detrimental to the very fabric of our lives.
No one held a gun to the head of the British people they acquiesced in everything that happened to their country. Those who had I’ll intent towards this country realised a long time ago that so long as the pubs stay open and the football is on the TV you can do pretty much whatever you like so long as you do it slowly.
@@timevergreen3619It doesn't matter. The communists won and we just stood by and watched. We talk about the great times in the 60s-90s but while we were living the good life our country was being infiltrated and we simiply didn't do enough to prevent it. In retrospect the generations that proceeded the war will be looked at as some of the biggest losers in history
I can assure you that during lockdown children I know of, flourished in learning because they did not have to wait for the others. Some are two years ahead now on the schoolscedule. Thanks to the internet. To fill their spare time they learned chess, rubik's cube, constructing 3 dimensional things, read all the books from the library....the 9 year old reads The Hobbit and adds melodies to Bilbo's poems. No need to be gloomy about declining in intelligence and knowledge.
The "Windrush Generation" is one of this country's most insidious myths. If you went back about 20-30 years ago hardly anyone had heard of it. We knew that a number of immigrants had come to the UK, mainly from Jamaica, and many of them got blue collar jobs. Fast forward to now and we've got people claiming that Britain needed these immigrants and that they asked for them. Neither is true. We had just won the war, lots of soldiers had returned from the war, and were desperate for work. There was no crisis which required outside "help". They were economic migrants who moved here for a better life. You can guarantee that 50 years from now, well be hearing the same cock and bull story about the hundreds of thousands of Middle Eastern and Africans who are currently invading the UK. 2+2=5.
"Windrush Generation" is used to differentiate first wave of black West Indian immigration (1948 - 1960s) from the mass immigration that followed after from Africa. The Afro Carribbean population has remained at 500,000 -600,000 which is roughly in the same ballpark as the UK black population figure of 70s and 80s while the African black population has grown immensely in the last 35 years and now stands at just over 1million.
@@IainFrame Yeah, big loss to Britain as the 10 pound poms where all "White British" desperate to leave. The initial "non-white immigrants" came into fill the void these folks left. And you are wrong on the 2nd part. People are also emigrating out of the UK. Check the net immigration statistics. The net figures from June 2022 to June 2023 is around 672000.
It’s England’s historical openness to social mobility that prevented a French-style Revolution there. Or here in the US, we rejected British overlordship but our government was created by the well-educated, property-owning, English gentry who had moved here.
Ungrateful lot, though. You begged Britain to help when the French and Spanish threatened your colonial freedoms - and Britain spent a vast amount protecting you, all for nothing.
It’s very interesting to see republics, monarchies, and unions all fall apart at the same time in the west. It’s like what they say, any form of government should be able to function if the citizens have the right values. I’m not even 30 and I am concerned because I think there is a decent chance we may see the end of the world (at least as we know it) in my lifetime.
Hang on in there, I'm a little older, b I g understatement, I can't easily imagine how I would be feeling at 30. Everything has gone really crazy, and I felt it recently, when dumb acceptance of AI arose and seems now to be the norm, everything went 'effin abstract,.!!!,...,hold tight, do what you can, day at a time. Best wishes.
I am 70 and while I understand your fears, I think I see things turning. There has been a 40 year infiltration of : first the universities, then the arts& media, and recently business by what Starkey might call Liberalism, but I would say more specifically postmodern ideology . However, the folk using this ideology to gain power over everyone’s lives could not restrain themselves and they showed their hands during covid. They went to far too fast - and that has alerted millions of people who might not have noticed the slow steady creep that had been happening. So while it seems as if this post modern facist mindset is dominant- it only seems so because they control media. In reality more and more ‘ordinary’ people are correctly suspicious. There is hope. To my mind there is more hope now than 4 years ago that the new Facism can be defeated.
My iPad calendar is packed with Woke “holidays” I’ve never even heard of. It I take it down, I also lose the dates tor Thanksgiving, Independence Day, Memorial Day and the sort-of-Christian Christmas, etc. (my Buddhist, African and Muslim friends all celebrate Christmas, Thanksgiving, Halloween and the National Holidays, they are just family holidays, not religious, to them). They want their children to have full participation in and enjoyment of American culture, these parents made great sacrifices to have them brought or born, raised and educated here to give them a much better life. Immigrants to this country, US, have been greatly successful because they wanted to assimilate and to give their loyalty to this country that gave them a better future. As for my computer calendar, spoilsports like me, who don’t care about Kwanza, etc., get no holidays shown at all. It’s all or nothing, who is deciding these things?! I want a calendar that reflects the holidays Americans actually celebrate and get days off for. At least we have Thanksgiving, a non-religious family holiday observed by absolutely everyone, who doesn’t want to give thanks for life here? To whom they address their thanks is their own business! Yes, everyone has turkey in addition to their family favorites.
@@RichardEnglander Its rather a long time since Blair was in power So whats the excuse for the Tories? Being bought off perhaps ? By those who now run the show. Billionaires, technocrats eugenist madmen? Or perhaps NOT being British at all ,but holding American passports and doing business in the USA and Russia..not to mention China
Just came across this discussion with David Starkey. Been watching and listening - captivated, couldn`t press the pause button!!! What a mind, what a memory; all the reading and research this man has done to be able to speak in such detail. I agree - I think we are about enter a period of great discomfort to put it mildly. Glad he is getting many opportunities to speak on here - because he`ll be sorely missed one day. Thank you David!!!
The great Dr Starkey, always fascinating, always a new perspective to some elements or other that we'd completely overlooked - and endlessly enthusiastic about his subject.
It is a privalege to listen to David Starkey with his in depth knowledge of history and his intelligent views. Maybe there remans a little hope for the survival of our English culture......although many of us are not very optomistic.
Yes I love English culture especially fish and chips.- invented in East London by Jews and spread around the Uk by Italian immigrants. Also I love pizza and curry and kebabs and going for a Chinese and pints of Heineken to wash it all down
You can't have the same civilized responses in the USA, it's totally bonkers. The comments to a conversation like this are always openly hostile and opinionated to the point of sheer madness and historic skewing. As an American of hybrided European descent, the aim of diversity is quite jarring. A Hindu is running for president, the federal government is ceding more and more land to Native Americans, and reducing the US to an immigration scheme to accomodate Asians, which is ironic after 9/11. In the past, immigration here was mostly Western European, keeping with a Judeo-Christian ethos, which was really about the rule of law and ethics fundamentally, now twisted into a pseudo justice zealotry and dangerous woke politik. The geography of the states can assimilate these numbers better than an England that is the size of California by comparison, more or less, but I think the English, and Europe for that matter is crazy to allow it. Absolute suicide. The idea of cultural homogeneity is totally forgein to everyone. The US even confuses illegal migration with immigration, calls it that, and has an half-built wall as a testament to collective naiveté, and the real fall of Rome, and empire, has always been slave mentality with equivalencies such as Indians were here first, or some of your cities have Spanish names. And yet, no one mentions remaining in their countries of origin and carving out democracy there. They just cut and run and take and lawyer the West until everyone loses and all is lost.
Konstantin's sidekick! That was low. Starkey always has to stick the knife in. FF is different and less overtly political maybe but an equal part of the chemistry and success of that show.
I had to laugh out loud yesterday 16/8/2023. I was doing a very rare thing of listening to James O'Brien on lbc for a while. At one point in his programme he read out a statistic that 30 years quite a high proprtion of the population felt tolerant and accepting about Gay People. (I cant remenber the exact numbers). He quoted 20 years ago,still high but lower. Then he told us in shocked and dissaproving tones that our current proportion of population that expresses favourable ness to Gayness is much lower, significantly lower. What is wrong with us he asked. Why are we going backwards. I immediately said out loud to the empty air "Migrants". I would guess that the proportion of population in this country,legal or illegal,working or not,in a house or flat or in a camp who are muslim is much higher than 30 years ago,therefore that fact is going to change the statistics on public held beliefs and ideals. Of course no one was so indelicate as to posit this answer.
The current first minister was asked how he would vote for same sex marriages, given that he didn't attend as he went to the mosque instead . He said after being asked about it that " this is the islamaphobia I faced all my life" He then had his entire family and himself dressed in Muslim dress to have his official photos taken, with a Muslim ceremony everyone was forced to applaud.....
Have you thought that O'Briens are themselves immigrants to England? O'Briens originally came from Ireland and we are told by Southern Ireland that Ireland has nothing to do with England.
How about the aspiring immigrant with British ancestry, who identifies closely with British thought and the British way of life, who is unwelcome in the land where the Empire placed his forefathers, and who does not qualify for a British ancestral visa?
It depends, doesn't it? In Brazil it has simply not been a problem for ages, if ever it truly was one. Americans have managed to keep religious conflict to a minimum. West Europeans stopped slaughtering each other over different interpretations of Christianity in the 17th century (except for the Irish). This is an interesting discussion, redrose97 🙂
As an immigrant US citizen who found the existing American society he found very beneficial and worthwhile preserving, I feel that most immigrants to America want to immerse themselves and merge into the existing social fabric, and not duplicate their original societies in their new homeland. Such people invariably make productive lives for themselves and their progeny. I feel that, this kind of immigrant is more the RULE than the EXCEPTION among most immigrants, even those in the UK, despite the minority of more vociferous and activist tribals who earn the anger of the majority by trying to recreate that society in their own image! 😇!
As I understand it, the "bastard nation" was built by a coelescene of Romans Angles Saxons. Note, not from africa, south, west, east or far east Asia ! I grew up in Hertfordshire, often going to London and never, repeat never, saw an african. I did see Indians, indeed went to school with Hindu's. I never had a problem as they had accepted the work & moral ethics of the British! They had learnt as I understand it today, that British society, culture etc was well worth amalgamating into their own culture!
I wonder if these excellent gentlemen are familiar with Philip Roth's book, The Human Stain. It was made into a film in 2003 starring the stupendous Anthony Hopkins and also Nicole Kidman. If ever there were a prediction of the future, this is it.
I must admit I'm not a big fan of the interviewer, he seems to have an agenda with the way he asks his questions and its not a nice one. He talks about being culturally English, something I think Dr Starkey imbues, but he himself reminds me of an Eastern European volkish nationalist, short, stern, and narrow minded. He displays some good historic and political knowledge, but the truth is very few people his age or lower, whether they have ancestors or not would be moved going to the Cenotaph.
Marvellous. 🏆 If there's one thing that annoys me about pseudo intellectuals, it's when they claim that those who don't know their history are doomed to repeat it. In passing, David Starkey blew that shallow arrogance out of the water. History is indeed no predictor of the future. Bravo Dr. Starkey, I, for one, applaud your modesty! 👍😇
The French simply could not understand why the English did not embrace revolution in the 1790's, so profound was this that Eli Halevy went to England to discover for himself. His answer was summed up in one phrase "the antidote to Jacobinism is Methodism" my question for David, despite his undoubted love of the truth, must ask himself the question 'why don't I believe in God and in Jesus Christ?" I would humbly suggest that his 'male orientedness' deposits a conviction that draws him to retain a tiny desert island of Libertarianism upon which to plant his sexuality. Disraeli was a Christian and I would suggest that Christianity is the catalist of good conservativism. Trying to rebuild it as a neo-pagan will be utter failure. It can only revive if a substantial number of the inhabitants become Christians. The same is true of all the English speaking peoples.
Flawed thinking, France was Christian, Russia, Prussia, Austria-Hungary, Habsburg Spain. The slavers, the imperialists, the tyrants, demagogues and genocidal. Christianity didn't stop any of it. It actively encouraged it in many cases.
@@tzazosghost8256 genuine Christians LISTEN to the Spirit of God and obey. You can attend church every Sunday of your life and still NOT be a Christian. Jesus said 'if you love me you will do as I command" also "by their fruits shall ye know them" slavery is not a mark of a believer but to end it is.
@@guywillson1549why England and the English do what others did not, is rather the inheritance of Teutoberg. Of freedom from Rome, of the preservation of tribal culture and law. The 'friends of Lord Ing' he (God that he was) who gave up his sword for love. Literally the weapon Offa used to recover the honour of the Angles.
@@tzazosghost8256 it's a thought but you need to look at the direct effect that God has on true believers. So far in time from the event invites all manner of interpretations of people living in this post-modern era. Biblical Christianity was affecting people in this time but we can only assess if the were godly by their testimony and the upshot or result of their activity. You can't rely on 'scholars' any more than scientists because even the latter cannot but help to interpret and inject their worldview in their findings. This is abundantly plain to see how governments, media and compliant business (esp. Big Pharma) are running like bedbugs when the light gets turned on. If you want the truth go to the Bible. If you don't then at least you slip into Hell willingly.
@@guywillson1549 rather I would say you Christians fed these wolves and nurtured them and yet now they come for you as for us all. For they never were creaturesof love. It will take men of honour to bind the monsters as Tue did and again it will cost much.
In relation to historical & cultural issues I am totally with the excellent Professor Starkey. When it comes to "nature worship" of modern life, I have to agree with the scientists that our planet is in dire straits because of rapid climate change caused by human based emissions. In relation to the pandemic, not even the most conservative government in the world would have been able to avoid lockdowns, etc. The number of sick patients with covid would have totally overwhelmed the health care systems of every nation. Let nature take its course in relation to the pandemic would never have worked, unless all covid positive people were to be banned from hospitals. In the end we were saved by the vaccines.
There is no problem whatsoever with targeted, needed and necessary immigration from wherever. I am trying to immigrate to the Philippines and they make it as difficult as possible with no shortcuts at all, No cries of racism here.
Wut? 3 years on a tourist visa, quick trip to Singapore and restart the clock. Or special retirement visa or investor visa. There aren't many countries with easier visa policies for expats.
Did David Starkey miss something?! He said Gibbon was a great phrase maker, but I thought that phrase was invented by Seneca the Younger?!: "Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by rulers as useful".
They had Hitchens on last week. Euuuugggh The man who knows nothing - has no solutions - and says so ! Starkey on the other hand a ray of light, enthusiasm and seemingly bottomless depths of knowledge! Fascinating to hear Starkey talk and lads, you are up to speed on all his points - impressed !!!
Now one sixth of those in the UK were born abroad, more immigration in the past 25 years than in the past two thousand years. How long can this enormous influx go on for?
Isn't that the consequence of the British Empire ? Most of the immigrants seem to be from former colonies. That is different from asylum seekers, coming in from Europe, is it not? Why do they always speak about the asylum seekers and say nothing about the vast majority of immigrants from the former colonies ? Or is this an elephant in the room....should I not have said that aloud....
So we should let millions come just because we ruled them with a few thousand who later went back home? Some places like Albania was never colonised so ok to chuck them all out?@@BetjeWolff-v2s
This might seem to be quibbling, but I noticed that Dr. Starkey seemed to ignore the fact that the Christian Roman Empire in the East survived, for many centuries, the fall of the empire in the West. Naturally the self-confidence of the eastern empire ebbed and flowed over the next millennium, but was never completely shaken until near the end, when it became inevitable that the Ottomans would take Constantinople. In the case of the east, it clearly was not Christianity which caused the empire to lose its self-confidence, and the Byzantines never ceased to fight valiantly in the defense of their Christian civilization.
The Deeply Faithful Christian greatest pitfall is Pride. Pride that Your Own Will determines God’s Will. If your Faith Alone causes you Suffering, it’s not your Faith, but rather a conflict of Pride.
I just love how David gets into his stride and effortlessly ranges from ancient Rome to present day with deep knowledge of every era, particularly understanding the worldviews of people at various stages of history. The interviewers seem to know what they're talking about too. Brilliant.
Immensely enjoyable to see Starkey being interviewed by a clearly very well educated interviewer, who speaks with an educated voice, and who has clearly done his research, but does not boast about it, nor push himself forward ... but leaves the stage to Starkey. Well done, and thank you. SCT (Eton, Oxford, France, Italy)
The Windrush Immigrants, I believe, have legitimate claim to citizenship. Their ancestors came from the Caribbean colonies as slaves, but they're British subjects, nonetheless. America has been stained by the indelible images of 6 million mainland slaves, toiling on Plantations. England doesn't have the societal division and trauma that is slavery's legacy, as they were out sight. The post - war ambition for British veterans to come to the mainland was fueled by dreams of economic opportunity for themselves and their families. The got an enthusiastic welcome, and were treated like brothers as they enlisted for service. Not so much upon arriving at England's shores, at the end of the war. Sad story. I'm American and our issues presented 100 years ago, and persist. Abolition was the law of the land and we had NO idea what to do with these poor, illiterate, angry people, and the Constitution needed multiple amendments, all vague and difficult to implement. Decades of Jim Crow substituted.. You guys are feeling it now, by way of mass immigration and an impotent Government in the midst of the failed Neoliberal order. I enjoy Starkey's honesty, but don't agree with some of his interpretations. BTW, "woke" is an invention of Corporation in order to cope. Sort of an " insurance policy" against armed insurrection by the working class. A fig leaf, to deflect from reality. Unsophisticated people are easily indoctrinated. Worn out, and simplistic.
As usual, a REAL PLEASURE to hear David Starkey, cancelled wonderful historian! I would have wanted him to talk about the invasion of islam in the UK and Europe. But that may require another separate video.
"People come here.. because they think they will do much better here than anywhere else" So, when people go to Germany, Spain, France, Italy, Austria, Holland, Belgium and the U.S they are really all wishing they were in Britain. Hmm. David Starkey believes in British or rather English exceptionalism or the 'aren't we marvellous' view of history. And when he talks about history of immigration being twisted to suit black and brown immigrants he forgets all the white immigrants, Irish, Jews, Scots, Welsh, Poles, Cypriots, Greeks, Turks, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Italians, I could go on...... all of whom helped to build the country and prove that immigration made us what we are. But he just focuses on coloured immigrants in order to decry the argument that migration is a good thing.
To save watching the whole thing, David answer the question at 49mins. Stating London has always been very diverse with the Huguenots,Scots, Jews, Germans etc etc, but they are all white and so ‘good immigrants’ and not the kind of ‘diversity’ people speak of today……
And every one of the 600,000 are on a visa along with the rest of the 1.2 million who came here last year ! The figure you quote is nothing to do with people who applied to be Uk nationals ! Less than 180,000 were granted Uk citizenship in 2022 ? That includes marriage etc ! Of the human remains onboard the May Rose sailors were not just from the Uk ! That 500 years ago ? Right wing nonsense
He really reaches beyond his knowledge limits with Rome. 1) It's facile to judge whether Christianity promoted liberal values or not based on the mere existence of emperors - Roman social history during this time is the expansion of citizenship until it becomes universal under Caracalla, and easing of the brutality of law around slavery - it was massively "inclusive" in modern terms. 2) He talks of a crisis of confidence as though Romans lost some university debate and then gave up... the pax Romana lasted well over four centuries across a terrain much bigger than today's EU... we should be so lucky! It would be more profitable to consider why the Roman empire lasted so *long*... 3) He's got the cause and effect in Roman religion the wrong way round. Is it diversity of religions that weakened Roman belief in the pantheon? Or is it the empire itself, which takes them to a place where its pagan and animist forms, built on a specific locale, no longer make any sense... and hollows the traditional system out. A discussion could be had on this, not a shallow assertion which suits a modern political point of view. Why were Romans already in the Late Republic obsessed with decline - when their empire was to grow for another 200 years? Because the empire itself made them lazy and avaricious... don't take my word for it - read Tacitus! Or Cato, 200 years earlier... The idea that somehow foreign religion weakened the culture of debate is flatly contradicted by the overwhelming weight of scholarship. Once the cursus honorum had the glass ceiling of empire imposed on it, rhetoric atrophied. It's one-eyed leading the blind stuff, this. Dr Starkey is great on Middle Ages. But he suffers from the bane of the social media age... he stretches himself beyond his real sphere of competence.
How about book arrangement experience around There? Wery good in Azerbaycan history guy, a friend of myself would add a much concept for such an idea. Cultural revolution if much better interesting that was not in past.
As an American fan of Mr. Starkey, I enjoyed this show a great deal. I kept no notes but entered several of his points into my daily journal and I was shocked at how easily I remembered them all. That's a tribute to the quality of what he was saying, not to my memory. I'm afraid that we can multiply the pessimism behind his remarks by a factor of ten or so with regard to the US. I used to teach Political Science and have had a keen interest in politics and culture most of my life. Our society and nation are fracturing--and it's not accidental. The government is deliberately making this happen, especially by allowing all manner of illegal immigration. The government and its big-business friends justify this by saying "We need workers, and Americans won't work." That's a lie, of course; what they really mean is, "Illegal immigrants will work for nothing; better than paying Americans a living wage." And we admit thousands of computer experts from India rather than educating young Americans in good schools for the technology of tomorrow. Only Trump has any insight into the need to preserve an American culture in the face of these dispiriting and fragmenting influences (I am aware of his shortcomings, too). We will soon have a Constitutional Crisis over this problem-and all Hell will break loose. The violence following the George Floyd murder will pale in comparison.
For centuries Britain got her confidence from the Word of God. In God they "belonged". They had purpose and value. This was shattered by Darwin's Theory of Evolution. There confidence was undermined and promoted undue guilt for having an empire that did so much good in the Earth and carried the Gospel of Christ around the world. The best but unbelieving historians will stop short of openly acknowledging this is that the sin in their own lives will prevent them from doing this.
You all pat yourself on the back while as a country HS2 - which cost 7 times a similar stretch in France - fails due to the fraud allowed at tender stage.
I hope there is hope for this country but it must become British again. David it's so great to listen to you, wish you were our Prime Minister but as you can't, could you suggest a good leader we could have. If this country had good leaders we could survive anything. Why don't you go on TV more, you could educate the stupid, that would help this country a lot
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Been subscribed for ages, NEVER get notifications or you in recommendations.
You tube do NOTHING to let fans or interested parties see your content.
Be careful Dr Starkey.
You risk doing time now for the Joan of Ark type comment. 😉
From Ireland to Sweden the European is being demographically replaced in the interests of international finance.
@@belindamay8063 Because there are a series defence mechanism in place that prevents a genuine 'right wing' ever gaining traction or even being heard. " The Right" or 'Right Wing"is another term that has been subverted and is meaningless today. What they want you to believe is 'right wing'' today, such as conservative and similar parties at best, are left of centre. And that has all been done by design..
When the ship's helm is swung portside (left), passengers whose gaze remains fixed on the old course (centre) inevitably now appear to the rest as looking starboard (right). 😊😊
Can't have high iq freedom loving people in a way of world domination.
Cabal of racist revisionist idiots. Fare-the-well Tory UK hooligans. We are each and every one of us immigrants, with the conspicuous exception of the displaced indigenous peoples.
Sadiq Khan is joke
I always enjoy listening to Starkey. His erudition is amazing.
His attitude to religion is a perfect example of post enlightenment thinking.
The idea of any kind of absolute truth based on irrational dogma is the same whether its about folk nailed to anything or women's ability to have penises regardless of how many words of self serving, impenetrable, sophistry you accumulate, apply a little basic reason and the whole shebang disappears up its own bahookie.
This fact alone explains the hysterical, defence they put up against facts and reason.
Very interesting
The Royal Family are fluent in German,have German relatives and changed their German name
Most European royal families including the former Russian, Bulgarian, Greek,Romanian and other families had huge dosages of German blood in them - Bulgaria was ruled by the Coburgs and Gothas,Romania belonged to the house of Hohenzollern -Kaiser William's royal house,Belgium is also a Saxe Coburg and Gotha, The Danish royals and therefore the Greeks are from the German house of Oldenburg and therefore also the Norwegians. Russian Romanovs were hugely German because of chronic intermarriage with minor German royalty like the house of Hesse.(The last tsarina Alexandra was from Hesse Darmstadt.) There's a German under every royal bed!
They`re immigrants dumbo@@EF5Winds
England has had Aquitanian, Portuguese, Spanish,Provencal,French,Danish,Italian,German,Flemish,Scottish
and other royal consorts -as a matter of fact up until recently they were almost always foreign!@@EF5Winds
The key to understanding medieval European history is not to follow the histories of the different countries as we have them today but of the different royal dynasties that were prominent like the Bourbons, Habsburgs, Hohenzollerns, Guelphs and many others -these families collected countries as properties in the same way that an investor collects properties in his investment portfolio. When a king married a princess from another country she often brought that whole country or regions of it as her dowry. The Austrian Habsburgs were notorious for this -largely through marriage they managed to become a mega power from very modest beginnings in Switzerland they acquired Austria, then Burgundy and the Low countries through marriage and eventually Spain through marriage and Spain's overseas empire to form "The empire on which the sun never set." These royal marriages were also the reason for the 100 years war between England and France because the English king Edward III believed he had more right to the French throne than the French Valois candidate -Edward's mother Isabella was the daughter of the former French king.@@EF5Winds
Let's talk about the crux of the issue - the indigenous British people are being broken up and displaced. They will become a minority in their own country in the near future.
And after we become a minority we will be persecuted.
Has Dr Starkey looked into the middle ages?
Because I've been hearing quite different things than what he's talking about here, and I suspect he might rely on biased accounts.
Starkers isn't a historian. He's basically a silly old sausage, and coincidentally a comedy genius.
Dr Starkey is respected as a Tudor historian. I would not quote him on the downfall of the Roman Empire or Norman and AngloSaxon cohabitation....
David definitely has a crush of Konstantin
That egregious Ash Sarkar said it out loud once when commenting on the rising migrant muslim population in the UK. She said "we're winning lads" its as simple as that for these people.
Who needs a fighting force invasion when you can take over via the ballot box?! Look at the politicians & ideological landscape in Luton & Bradford, for example. Islam - Incompatible. Incongruous. Irreconcilable.
It needs to be as simple as that for the rest of us.
I sincerely hope she'll be happy in the future in her full clothes of subjugation and servitude.
Except they don’t even really care about Muslims. They don’t know who or what they’re ‘winning’ against.
There are no solutions inside the Liberal paradigm now.
I find myself wondering whether Dr. Starkey, who professes atheism, has a far greater insight into and sympathy with Christianity than the Archbishop of Canterbury.
Whatever you do, don't bash the bishop.
Do you mean the Parable of The Good Samaritan or Love thy neighbour as thyself or the Sermon on the Mount .
@@mikerodent3164 You really are the idiot are u not ? You sound a total BANKER yourself .
To be an atheist does not necessitate disdain for religion. I appreciate the wisdom in Judeo-Christian values. However, given the anthropomorphic origins of mythology of all types, I can appreciate the sublime human creativity in wrapping our own morality in fictional allegory for example; merely rejecting divine provenance is not in any way irrational.
I honestly think it’s too far gone immigration now. The change since I was at school only 20 years ago is frightening.
Yassah!
Then, are you giving up your culture and your country?
@@johnwoods7650 no definitely not. We all need to get together us natives and do something drastic.
@@sandman8920 - Why not start a new political party?
@@johnwoods7650 wouldn’t know where to start and I’m far too busy. Farm to run 😝😆
Always a joy to hear David Starkey talk with these guys. Country is a cultural mess, everyone knows it.
Culture is downstream from ethnicity.
But what is he willing to do to solve the problem? Nothing at all, because he isn't racist.
The Left wanted this.
It's hard to imagine why Dr. Starkey hasn't received a Knighthood.
It isn't hard at all. He's honest and uncompromising.
Because of those damned black as he himself said 😂😂😂😂😂
@@larbi131it was a stupid comment though
Why be associated with an organised crime family of crooks, adulterers, liars, thieves, inbreeds and murderers??
@@Marvin-dg8vjHe meant damned as in condemned.
Love you Starkey! long may you 'reign' on their parade.
Amusingly I got an advert extolling the pleasures and virtues of "sending money back home" to India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal, "and 100 other countries".
That's the kind of immigrant we have.
That might be a tad too factual, and with no, truth warning.
Tut, tut.
Seriously, h o w much money 'exits' the country?
Is this on a par with an industry?
The costs of ------- defence, that's M5/5, GCHQ, and the Anti terrorist, north, south, regional?
Are these in some way complicit, or have they just, practically, bottled it?
They can't identify who makes s/media, all the rape and murder threats?
But banks, the ESG, algorithms can?
It would be interesting to know the reasons different ------ have been de-banked.?
Yep, need to take all those remittances into account when evaluating economic impact of immigration, and the extra policing costs, the great expense of Jihad defence, and so so much more.
What a mess.
The immigrant does not pick up gold from the streets of London.and remit it abroad.
@@joedias7946 no they have jobs in the illegal economy whilst they collect benefits and they send that abroad, yet an other drain on us.
Natives would not do that.
@@RichardEnglanderand they have lawyers, social workers and charities to do it for them. Then we have to pay for their multiple families, all given houses & financial support for life. They are not all " engineers, doctors, nurses..."
How I wish David Starkey was in Government. His wisdom and feel for the country is precisely what we need. Alas, we don't actually have a functioning government in the U.K. at present. We're in freefall. It's very worrying.
Go liv in Hungary then
We might be in free fall. The truth, Britain is a Nazi state. The problem with this debate is it's reliance on history written by the winners.
We have the best politicians money can buy
His argument is for open borders. You already have that under the conservatives. Do you want paid immigration? I'm not sure how you can have more of what he's talking about. He thinks Britain is uniquely wonderful, and everyone should want to join.
Our government functions very well, it's just that the function of government is to destroy and tyrannise us.
Always amusing, 'Diversity built Britain', can't thing of a single thing Diversity built, but can name plenty of destruction.
Dr Starkey: You really do need to factor in the Islamic JIHAD concept; given that so many of these young males are Muslim. They are not merely pitching up here in the hope of "improving their lives", as you seem to think: but in order to take our Country off us for ISLAM. This is about conquest: not "improving one's life".
100% correct
Well said
@@Sciuridae I do hope you're correct.
They're not here to assimilate. They're here to conquer.
You are absolutely right, unfortunately.
There may well come a time when people realise they've been lied to and possibly over react. Or we may continue into oblivion. A rosey outcome is probably the least likely.
It's easier to fool someone than to convince them they have been fooled. There's too many who still believe that all those who arrive here are fleeing war or conflict. It is easier to believe that than the truth that this govt are happy to allow them to exploit us mercilessly.
3:55 Foe was wrong, the Romans left almost no trace of their tribe in the British Isles' lineage, and the English, Normans, Danes & Huguenots are all of the same ethnicity, with close similarities to each other culturally apart from the French language the Normans had recently adopted.
It troubles me about where we will be when people like David Starkey, Stephen fry etc are no longer with us.
Step up Chris.
@@MasalaMan I'm no good to anyone I'm afraid
Fry? A luvvie of the Left-collective.
Cemeteries are full of people who thought or were thought of as indispensable, some of whom have now fallen into oblivion. I don't worry like you, there will always be people who'll stand out from the crowd to carry the banner for justice.
Stephen Fry is a phony.
Yes. Todays talk with Dr Starkey has given me a glimmer of hope. Thank you.
Everytime I looked at the timestamp and realised I wasn't even half way through this yet, was a tremendously joyful feeling itself. What a great discussion! Starkey's mellifluous mastery of the English language and facts is like a fine wine. I wish he'd put all of it into a new book. Thank you
A new book, and armed to the teeth.
What facts ? As in evidence based facts ?
No Starkey the figure was 1.2 million. But quite a lot of people left many of whom were probably native Brits so the disaster is far worse than net figures demonstrate.
I feel very sorry for our amazing Country ... but I clearly see that Britain, once a proud and prosperous Nation, is now on the verge of committing suicide!
Our forefathers are looking at us with deep disapproval and shame...
All is lost. The UK is utterly finished.
@@shabbos-goy9407shabos gay You're depressed or that is not very clever ta---ya. Do your family know what you do?
@@shabbos-goy9407 keep your defeatist attitude to yourself.
You should blame Churchill for that
Imagine Churchill’s thought if he was told an Indian is the FirstMinister for HM.
Love Starkey, so knowledgeable and interesting
It's always a pleasure to listen to such an erudite narrator of historical truth as Dr Starkey.
Why wasn’t mr starkey giving a bigger chair.
He could talk, and does talk, for ages on topics that he has an encyclopedic knowledge. With knowledge and an engaging manner. Could listen to thid man for hours.
i always thought that the main group of people that built London and many other British Cities plus railways ect.were Irish i for one one didnt notice many indians or any other ethnic groups involved do think it would be a kindness to inform the descendants of the Navvies and present Irish workers they didnt do it?.
Exactly!! There was such utter hostility towards the Irish, too. The so called immigrants of today do not care about us, they are here to take over with their uncivilised, medieval religion that is intolerant and is divisive. The generation of immigrants previously actually helped to build us our infrastructure and technology. Those who did that have had generations of children doing the same. Previously, immigrants arrived here, as in most developed countries, to contribute to the society it inhabits. We all have the right to say enough is enough & it no longer benefits us to intake anyone who arrives here without question. That's how it should be, we don't owe these people anything! Just because we had immigrants before doesn't mean we need to keep doing it, it only causes problems & is detrimental to the very fabric of our lives.
No one held a gun to the head of the British people they acquiesced in everything that happened to their country. Those who had I’ll intent towards this country realised a long time ago that so long as the pubs stay open and the football is on the TV you can do pretty much whatever you like so long as you do it slowly.
Exactly. Same in the US I'm afraid.
It's been 60 years of brainwashing and demoralisation
Brexit......
The British people did not want what happened to them, their government lies to them 🙄
@@timevergreen3619It doesn't matter. The communists won and we just stood by and watched. We talk about the great times in the 60s-90s but while we were living the good life our country was being infiltrated and we simiply didn't do enough to prevent it. In retrospect the generations that proceeded the war will be looked at as some of the biggest losers in history
Welcome Dr.Starkey Never miss one of your talks or lectures. On the immigration issue it seems to be a problem everywhere!
As people decline in intelligence, knowledge and wisdom were degenerate into medieval thought patterns.
I can assure you that during lockdown children I know of, flourished in learning because they did not have to wait for the others. Some are two years ahead now on the schoolscedule. Thanks to the internet. To fill their spare time they learned chess, rubik's cube, constructing 3 dimensional things, read all the books from the library....the 9 year old reads The Hobbit and adds melodies to Bilbo's poems. No need to be gloomy about declining in intelligence and knowledge.
The "Windrush Generation" is one of this country's most insidious myths. If you went back about 20-30 years ago hardly anyone had heard of it. We knew that a number of immigrants had come to the UK, mainly from Jamaica, and many of them got blue collar jobs. Fast forward to now and we've got people claiming that Britain needed these immigrants and that they asked for them. Neither is true. We had just won the war, lots of soldiers had returned from the war, and were desperate for work. There was no crisis which required outside "help". They were economic migrants who moved here for a better life. You can guarantee that 50 years from now, well be hearing the same cock and bull story about the hundreds of thousands of Middle Eastern and Africans who are currently invading the UK. 2+2=5.
"Windrush Generation" is used to differentiate first wave of black West Indian immigration (1948 - 1960s) from the mass immigration that followed after from Africa.
The Afro Carribbean population has remained at 500,000 -600,000 which is roughly in the same ballpark as the UK black population figure of 70s and 80s while the African black population has grown immensely in the last 35 years and now stands at just over 1million.
You're correct they came uninvited on troop ships. The Jamaican government asked us to keep them as Jamaica had major issues.
What about the 10 pound poms? 1.5 million British left Britain between 1945-81 under the Assisted Passage Migration Scheme.
@@MrLee-gj2jz That's quite a lot of people. Virtually the same number of people who immigrated to the UK between 2022 and 2023.
@@IainFrame Yeah, big loss to Britain as the 10 pound poms where all "White British" desperate to leave. The initial "non-white immigrants" came into fill the void these folks left.
And you are wrong on the 2nd part. People are also emigrating out of the UK. Check the net immigration statistics. The net figures from June 2022 to June 2023 is around 672000.
It’s England’s historical openness to social mobility that prevented a French-style Revolution there. Or here in the US, we rejected British overlordship but our government was created by the well-educated, property-owning, English gentry who had moved here.
Ungrateful lot, though. You begged Britain to help when the French and Spanish threatened your colonial freedoms - and Britain spent a vast amount protecting you, all for nothing.
No. It's the suppression of the ordinary English people by the Anglo-Norman elite after 1066.
He won't get knighted because he tells the truth those in parliament don't believe in that 😊😊
It’s very interesting to see republics, monarchies, and unions all fall apart at the same time in the west. It’s like what they say, any form of government should be able to function if the citizens have the right values. I’m not even 30 and I am concerned because I think there is a decent chance we may see the end of the world (at least as we know it) in my lifetime.
Hang on in there, I'm a little older, b I g understatement, I can't easily imagine how I would be feeling at 30.
Everything has gone really crazy, and I felt it recently, when dumb acceptance of AI arose and seems now to be the norm, everything went 'effin abstract,.!!!,...,hold tight, do what you can, day at a time.
Best wishes.
I am 70 and while I understand your fears, I think I see things turning. There has been a 40 year infiltration of : first the universities, then the arts& media, and recently business by what Starkey might call Liberalism, but I would say more specifically postmodern ideology .
However, the folk using this ideology to gain power over everyone’s lives could not restrain themselves and they showed their hands during covid. They went to far too fast - and that has alerted millions of people who might not have noticed the slow steady creep that had been happening.
So while it seems as if this post modern facist mindset is dominant- it only seems so because they control media. In reality more and more ‘ordinary’ people are correctly suspicious. There is hope.
To my mind there is more hope now than 4 years ago that the new Facism can be defeated.
@@scottishpensioner2447 If you hate facism then enjoy liberalism and white
@@scottishpensioner2447 extinction
You SHOULD be worried. My post-war boomer generation will be gone but it's coming.....
My iPad calendar is packed with Woke “holidays” I’ve never even heard of. It I take it down, I also lose the dates tor Thanksgiving, Independence Day, Memorial Day and the sort-of-Christian Christmas, etc. (my Buddhist, African and Muslim friends all celebrate Christmas, Thanksgiving, Halloween and the National Holidays, they are just family holidays, not religious, to them). They want their children to have full participation in and enjoyment of American culture, these parents made great sacrifices to have them brought or born, raised and educated here to give them a much better life. Immigrants to this country, US, have been greatly successful because they wanted to assimilate and to give their loyalty to this country that gave them a better future. As for my computer calendar, spoilsports like me, who don’t care about Kwanza, etc., get no holidays shown at all. It’s all or nothing, who is deciding these things?! I want a calendar that reflects the holidays Americans actually celebrate and get days off for. At least we have Thanksgiving, a non-religious family holiday observed by absolutely everyone, who doesn’t want to give thanks for life here? To whom they address their thanks is their own business! Yes, everyone has turkey in addition to their family favorites.
Wow
You mean "all immigrants are great"???
"Who is deciding these things?"
They wear small hats, are extremely ethno-centric, control international finance, Hollywood and the media.
12:12 Starkers is wrong, it's not religion its politics, we're under attack by a weird fusion of Capitalism & Trotskyism.
Yep, I think that is called 'Blairite/Blairism'
@@RichardEnglander Its rather a long time since Blair was in power So whats the excuse for the Tories? Being bought off perhaps ? By those who now run the show. Billionaires, technocrats eugenist madmen? Or perhaps NOT being British at all ,but holding American passports and doing business in the USA and Russia..not to mention China
Just came across this discussion with David Starkey. Been watching and listening - captivated, couldn`t press the pause button!!! What a mind, what a memory; all the reading and research this man has done to be able to speak in such detail. I agree - I think we are about enter a period of great discomfort to put it mildly. Glad he is getting many opportunities to speak on here - because he`ll be sorely missed one day. Thank you David!!!
The great Dr Starkey, always fascinating, always a new perspective to some elements or other that we'd completely overlooked - and endlessly enthusiastic about his subject.
It is a privalege to listen to David Starkey with his in depth knowledge of history and his intelligent views. Maybe there remans a little hope for the survival of our English culture......although many of us are not very optomistic.
Yes I love English culture especially fish and chips.- invented in East London by Jews and spread around the Uk by Italian immigrants. Also I love pizza and curry and kebabs and going for a Chinese and pints of Heineken to wash it all down
So refreshing and rare to have an hour of intelligence
How would you know?
@@mikerodent3164 well you’d struggle that’s for sure
@@David-uf8ex Brilliant!
You can't have the same civilized responses in the USA, it's totally bonkers. The comments to a conversation like this are always openly hostile and opinionated to the point of sheer madness and historic skewing. As an American of hybrided European descent, the aim of diversity is quite jarring. A Hindu is running for president, the federal government is ceding more and more land to Native Americans, and reducing the US to an immigration scheme to accomodate Asians, which is ironic after 9/11. In the past, immigration here was mostly Western European, keeping with a Judeo-Christian ethos, which was really about the rule of law and ethics fundamentally, now twisted into a pseudo justice zealotry and dangerous woke politik. The geography of the states can assimilate these numbers better than an England that is the size of California by comparison, more or less, but I think the English, and Europe for that matter is crazy to allow it. Absolute suicide. The idea of cultural homogeneity is totally forgein to everyone. The US even confuses illegal migration with immigration, calls it that, and has an half-built wall as a testament to collective naiveté, and the real fall of Rome, and empire, has always been slave mentality with equivalencies such as Indians were here first, or some of your cities have Spanish names. And yet, no one mentions remaining in their countries of origin and carving out democracy there. They just cut and run and take and lawyer the West until everyone loses and all is lost.
Your problem is the approval for the JUDEO-Christian ethos. You don't understand where your ruin comes from.
I like the way the people interviewing him behave like his students.
Wouldn't it be wonderful to have David Starkey as a friend?!
Christ no.
Oh come on, be a sport. @@tatata1543
You might be safe if your ugly 😁
@@tatata1543 😂
I imagine he'd continually tell me how stupid i am
Konstantin's sidekick! That was low. Starkey always has to stick the knife in. FF is different and less overtly political maybe but an equal part of the chemistry and success of that show.
And historically,they were never in the adverts either!!
I had to laugh out loud yesterday 16/8/2023. I was doing a very rare thing of listening to James O'Brien on lbc for a while. At one point in his programme he read out a statistic that 30 years quite a high proprtion of the population felt tolerant and accepting about Gay People. (I cant remenber the exact numbers). He quoted 20 years ago,still high but lower. Then he told us in shocked and dissaproving tones that our current proportion of population that expresses favourable ness to Gayness is much lower, significantly lower. What is wrong with us he asked. Why are we going backwards. I immediately said out loud to the empty air "Migrants". I would guess that the proportion of population in this country,legal or illegal,working or not,in a house or flat or in a camp who are muslim is much higher than 30 years ago,therefore that fact is going to change the statistics on public held beliefs and ideals. Of course no one was so indelicate as to posit this answer.
The current first minister was asked how he would vote for same sex marriages, given that he didn't attend as he went to the mosque instead . He said after being asked about it that " this is the islamaphobia I faced all my life" He then had his entire family and himself dressed in Muslim dress to have his official photos taken, with a Muslim ceremony everyone was forced to applaud.....
Have you thought that O'Briens are themselves immigrants to England? O'Briens originally came from Ireland and we are told by Southern Ireland that Ireland has nothing to do with England.
When David Starkey is a guest on a podcast it's always a question from the host followed by a Starkey monologue. I have no problem with this 😁
He's very engaging simply because he explains the truth
How about the aspiring immigrant with British ancestry, who identifies closely with British thought and the British way of life, who is unwelcome in the land where the Empire placed his forefathers, and who does not qualify for a British ancestral visa?
Religion is the big problem,when has mixing different religions together in one place ever worked out well?
It works reasonnably well where i live and in other places at other times
It depends, doesn't it? In Brazil it has simply not been a problem for ages, if ever it truly was one. Americans have managed to keep religious conflict to a minimum. West Europeans stopped slaughtering each other over different interpretations of Christianity in the 17th century (except for the Irish). This is an interesting discussion, redrose97 🙂
The word assimilation has disappeared from dictionaries…. 😢
Immigration is colonis@tion.
Aka intrusion of foreign blood, culture and ultimate destruction of your nation. Segregation is better.
Thank you, Dr. Starkey.
As an immigrant US citizen who found the existing American society he found very beneficial and worthwhile preserving, I feel that most immigrants to America want to immerse themselves and merge into the existing social fabric, and not duplicate their original societies in their new homeland.
Such people invariably make productive lives for themselves and their progeny.
I feel that, this kind of immigrant is more the RULE than the EXCEPTION among most immigrants, even those in the UK, despite the minority of more vociferous and activist tribals who earn the anger of the majority by trying to recreate that society in their own image! 😇!
Stop European genocide 2023❤
It’s like standing in the rain, by the grave of a recently departed friend, reflecting how wonderful they had once been.. Such is Britain today.
Wonderful, a great start to my Sunday morning. Thank you
As I understand it, the "bastard nation" was built by a coelescene of Romans Angles Saxons. Note, not from africa, south, west, east or far east Asia !
I grew up in Hertfordshire, often going to London and never, repeat never, saw an african. I did see Indians, indeed went to school with Hindu's. I never had a problem as they had accepted the work & moral ethics of the British! They had learnt as I understand it today, that British society, culture etc was well worth amalgamating into their own culture!
Ask David a question and sit back . A great man !
I wonder if these excellent gentlemen are familiar with Philip Roth's book, The Human Stain. It was made into a film in 2003 starring the stupendous Anthony Hopkins and also Nicole Kidman. If ever there were a prediction of the future, this is it.
I must admit I'm not a big fan of the interviewer, he seems to have an agenda with the way he asks his questions and its not a nice one. He talks about being culturally English, something I think Dr Starkey imbues, but he himself reminds me of an Eastern European volkish nationalist, short, stern, and narrow minded. He displays some good historic and political knowledge, but the truth is very few people his age or lower, whether they have ancestors or not would be moved going to the Cenotaph.
You on a witch-hunt there? Need to manufacture and make manifest witches to hunt?
@@RichardEnglander You stifling disapproval
Marvellous. 🏆
If there's one thing that annoys me about pseudo intellectuals, it's when they claim that those who don't know their history are doomed to repeat it. In passing, David Starkey blew that shallow arrogance out of the water.
History is indeed no predictor of the future. Bravo Dr. Starkey, I, for one, applaud your modesty! 👍😇
The French simply could not understand why the English did not embrace revolution in the 1790's, so profound was this that Eli Halevy went to England to discover for himself. His answer was summed up in one phrase "the antidote to Jacobinism is Methodism" my question for David, despite his undoubted love of the truth, must ask himself the question 'why don't I believe in God and in Jesus Christ?" I would humbly suggest that his 'male orientedness' deposits a conviction that draws him to retain a tiny desert island of Libertarianism upon which to plant his sexuality.
Disraeli was a Christian and I would suggest that Christianity is the catalist of good conservativism. Trying to rebuild it as a neo-pagan will be utter failure. It can only revive if a substantial number of the inhabitants become Christians. The same is true of all the English speaking peoples.
Flawed thinking, France was Christian, Russia, Prussia, Austria-Hungary, Habsburg Spain. The slavers, the imperialists, the tyrants, demagogues and genocidal. Christianity didn't stop any of it. It actively encouraged it in many cases.
@@tzazosghost8256 genuine Christians LISTEN to the Spirit of God and obey. You can attend church every Sunday of your life and still NOT be a Christian. Jesus said 'if you love me you will do as I command" also "by their fruits shall ye know them" slavery is not a mark of a believer but to end it is.
@@guywillson1549why England and the English do what others did not, is rather the inheritance of Teutoberg. Of freedom from Rome, of the preservation of tribal culture and law.
The 'friends of Lord Ing' he (God that he was) who gave up his sword for love. Literally the weapon Offa used to recover the honour of the Angles.
@@tzazosghost8256 it's a thought but you need to look at the direct effect that God has on true believers. So far in time from the event invites all manner of interpretations of people living in this post-modern era. Biblical Christianity was affecting people in this time but we can only assess if the were godly by their testimony and the upshot or result of their activity. You can't rely on 'scholars' any more than scientists because even the latter cannot but help to interpret and inject their worldview in their findings. This is abundantly plain to see how governments, media and compliant business (esp. Big Pharma) are running like bedbugs when the light gets turned on. If you want the truth go to the Bible. If you don't then at least you slip into Hell willingly.
@@guywillson1549 rather I would say you Christians fed these wolves and nurtured them and yet now they come for you as for us all. For they never were creaturesof love. It will take men of honour to bind the monsters as Tue did and again it will cost much.
Poor FF being demoted to KK's sidekick.
Indeed, rather a lapse of elegance and graciousness there.
He always was. He never said much, looked uncomfortable, and was talked down to by Konstantin. It’s what put me off Trigonometry.
@@earthstick Yet it's likely that without him there wouldn't have been the venture into the current format.
Of the two brothers, David and Richard, Richard (Ringo) Starkey has done the most to uplift humanity.
I wondered if they were related!!!! Love Ringo.
Brilliant conversation. Worth watching again and again.
And it's important to understand that arrogance isnt a substitute for confidence.
In relation to historical & cultural issues I am totally with the excellent Professor Starkey. When it comes to "nature worship" of modern life, I have to agree with the scientists that our planet is in dire straits because of rapid climate change caused by human based emissions. In relation to the pandemic, not even the most conservative government in the world would have been able to avoid lockdowns, etc. The number of sick patients with covid would have totally overwhelmed the health care systems of every nation. Let nature take its course in relation to the pandemic would never have worked, unless all covid positive people were to be banned from hospitals. In the end we were saved by the vaccines.
There is no problem whatsoever with targeted, needed and necessary immigration from wherever.
I am trying to immigrate to the Philippines and they make it as difficult as possible with no shortcuts at all, No cries of racism here.
Wut? 3 years on a tourist visa, quick trip to Singapore and restart the clock. Or special retirement visa or investor visa. There aren't many countries with easier visa policies for expats.
The more that drown the fewer coming here, NO sympathy at all for them,they are in a safe country and CHOOSE to cross.
Did David Starkey miss something?! He said Gibbon was a great phrase maker, but I thought that phrase was invented by Seneca the Younger?!:
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by rulers as useful".
Starkers is what's known as a bullschitter. But such entertainment. Honestly, this sort of vid confirms Starkers as a comedy genius.
Starkey on the money. The thinking mans historian and wise old athiest owl.
I watched it till the end. The video is even worse than what the title suggested it would be.
14:31 and I will give up. He is interesting on Henry 8
They had Hitchens on last week. Euuuugggh
The man who knows nothing - has no solutions - and says so !
Starkey on the other hand a ray of light, enthusiasm and seemingly bottomless depths of knowledge! Fascinating to hear Starkey talk and lads, you are up to speed on all his points - impressed !!!
He is only being brutally honest when he says there are no solutions.
When they'll have you? To give some solutions.
David keeps saying 600,000 people. Don't confuse the number of arrivals with the net immigration figure.
That has been the NET immigration recently... about 600,000.... hard to believe, I know!!
Now one sixth of those in the UK were born abroad, more immigration in the past 25 years than in the past two thousand years. How long can this enormous influx go on for?
Isn't that the consequence of the British Empire ? Most of the immigrants seem to be from former colonies. That is different from asylum seekers, coming in from Europe, is it not? Why do they always speak about the asylum seekers and say nothing about the vast majority of immigrants from the former colonies ? Or is this an elephant in the room....should I not have said that aloud....
So we should let millions come just because we ruled them with a few thousand who later went back home? Some places like Albania was never colonised so ok to chuck them all out?@@BetjeWolff-v2s
@@BetjeWolff-v2s The same immigration level are afflicting other European countries which never had empires. Ireland for example.
VOTE LABOUR GET A DINING DIVER AS a neighbour vote conservative get two dinghy divers vote lib get three vote green get 400 you pay they stay.
This might seem to be quibbling, but I noticed that Dr. Starkey seemed to ignore the fact that the Christian Roman Empire in the East survived, for many centuries, the fall of the empire in the West. Naturally the self-confidence of the eastern empire ebbed and flowed over the next millennium, but was never completely shaken until near the end, when it became inevitable that the Ottomans would take Constantinople. In the case of the east, it clearly was not Christianity which caused the empire to lose its self-confidence, and the Byzantines never ceased to fight valiantly in the defense of their Christian civilization.
Fantastic interview!
The Deeply Faithful Christian greatest pitfall is Pride.
Pride that Your Own Will determines God’s Will.
If your Faith Alone causes you Suffering, it’s not your Faith, but rather a conflict of Pride.
I just love how David gets into his stride and effortlessly ranges from ancient Rome to present day with deep knowledge of every era, particularly understanding the worldviews of people at various stages of history. The interviewers seem to know what they're talking about too. Brilliant.
It’s not “The West” that is so influential with those who seek Liberty, it’s England. 🏴
Immensely enjoyable to see Starkey being interviewed by a clearly very well educated interviewer, who speaks with an educated voice, and who has clearly done his research, but does not boast about it, nor push himself forward ... but leaves the stage to Starkey. Well done, and thank you. SCT (Eton, Oxford, France, Italy)
The Windrush Immigrants, I believe, have legitimate claim to citizenship. Their ancestors came from the Caribbean colonies as slaves, but they're British subjects, nonetheless.
America has been stained by the indelible images of 6 million mainland slaves, toiling on Plantations.
England doesn't have the societal division and trauma that is slavery's legacy, as they were out sight. The post -
war ambition for British veterans to come to the mainland was fueled by dreams of economic opportunity for themselves and their families.
The got an enthusiastic welcome, and were treated like brothers as they enlisted for service. Not so much upon arriving at England's shores, at the end of the war. Sad story. I'm American and our issues presented 100 years ago, and persist. Abolition was the law
of the land and we had NO idea what to do with these poor, illiterate, angry people, and the Constitution needed multiple amendments, all vague and difficult to implement. Decades of Jim Crow substituted..
You guys are feeling it now, by way of mass immigration and an impotent Government in the midst of the failed Neoliberal order. I enjoy Starkey's honesty, but don't agree with some of his interpretations.
BTW, "woke" is an invention of Corporation in order to cope.
Sort of an " insurance policy" against armed insurrection by the working class.
A fig leaf, to deflect from reality. Unsophisticated people are easily indoctrinated. Worn out, and simplistic.
As usual, a REAL PLEASURE to hear David Starkey, cancelled wonderful historian!
I would have wanted him to talk about the invasion of islam in the UK and Europe. But that may require another separate video.
"People come here.. because they think they will do much better here than anywhere else" So, when people go to Germany, Spain, France, Italy, Austria, Holland, Belgium and the U.S they are really all wishing they were in Britain. Hmm. David Starkey believes in British or rather English exceptionalism or the 'aren't we marvellous' view of history. And when he talks about history of immigration being twisted to suit black and brown immigrants he forgets all the white immigrants, Irish, Jews, Scots, Welsh, Poles, Cypriots, Greeks, Turks, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Italians, I could go on...... all of whom helped to build the country and prove that immigration made us what we are. But he just focuses on coloured immigrants in order to decry the argument that migration is a good thing.
Mexico abolished slavery in 1810 in their Declaration of Independence. The Spaniards didn’t like it nor did the Americans living in Texas.
To live a life without endeavors of Labor is to live a life with one eye shut.
Every man needs a vocation.
Soft Hands, Soft Philosophy
admit it - "good" immigrant arrive in early 20s, works 24/7 in menial job for low pay and is renting, and leaves by the time they're 38.
To save watching the whole thing, David answer the question at 49mins. Stating London has always been very diverse with the Huguenots,Scots, Jews, Germans etc etc, but they are all white and so ‘good immigrants’ and not the kind of ‘diversity’ people speak of today……
It was, and still is for the British aristocracy, male primogeniture.
When you start throwing around big words I'm out of here😂😂😂
And every one of the 600,000 are on a visa along with the rest of the 1.2 million who came here last year ! The figure you quote is nothing to do with people who applied to be Uk nationals ! Less than 180,000 were granted Uk citizenship in 2022 ? That includes marriage etc ! Of the human remains onboard the May Rose sailors were not just from the Uk ! That 500 years ago ? Right wing nonsense
He really reaches beyond his knowledge limits with Rome. 1) It's facile to judge whether Christianity promoted liberal values or not based on the mere existence of emperors - Roman social history during this time is the expansion of citizenship until it becomes universal under Caracalla, and easing of the brutality of law around slavery - it was massively "inclusive" in modern terms. 2) He talks of a crisis of confidence as though Romans lost some university debate and then gave up... the pax Romana lasted well over four centuries across a terrain much bigger than today's EU... we should be so lucky! It would be more profitable to consider why the Roman empire lasted so *long*... 3) He's got the cause and effect in Roman religion the wrong way round. Is it diversity of religions that weakened Roman belief in the pantheon? Or is it the empire itself, which takes them to a place where its pagan and animist forms, built on a specific locale, no longer make any sense... and hollows the traditional system out. A discussion could be had on this, not a shallow assertion which suits a modern political point of view. Why were Romans already in the Late Republic obsessed with decline - when their empire was to grow for another 200 years? Because the empire itself made them lazy and avaricious... don't take my word for it - read Tacitus! Or Cato, 200 years earlier... The idea that somehow foreign religion weakened the culture of debate is flatly contradicted by the overwhelming weight of scholarship. Once the cursus honorum had the glass ceiling of empire imposed on it, rhetoric atrophied. It's one-eyed leading the blind stuff, this. Dr Starkey is great on Middle Ages. But he suffers from the bane of the social media age... he stretches himself beyond his real sphere of competence.
One can only claim to have built London if he or she was there when the city had only a river to boast.
A bit literal minded.
How about book arrangement experience around There? Wery good in Azerbaycan history guy, a friend of myself would add a much concept for such an idea. Cultural revolution if much better interesting that was not in past.
Our law should be paramount.Its our framework of justice and freedom
I’m glad I found you mr starkey. A bit late in the day. But it means I continue my education. In agreement or disagreement!
As an American fan of Mr. Starkey, I enjoyed this show a great deal. I kept no notes but entered several of his points into my daily journal and I was shocked at how easily I remembered them all. That's a tribute to the quality of what he was saying, not to my memory. I'm afraid that we can multiply the pessimism behind his remarks by a factor of ten or so with regard to the US. I used to teach Political Science and have had a keen interest in politics and culture most of my life. Our society and nation are fracturing--and it's not accidental. The government is deliberately making this happen, especially by allowing all manner of illegal immigration. The government and its big-business friends justify this by saying "We need workers, and Americans won't work." That's a lie, of course; what they really mean is, "Illegal immigrants will work for nothing; better than paying Americans a living wage." And we admit thousands of computer experts from India rather than educating young Americans in good schools for the technology of tomorrow. Only Trump has any insight into the need to preserve an American culture in the face of these dispiriting and fragmenting influences (I am aware of his shortcomings, too). We will soon have a Constitutional Crisis over this problem-and all Hell will break loose. The violence following the George Floyd murder will pale in comparison.
Except George Floyd wasn't murdered. He died from a Fentanyl overdose. Stop repeating the mainstream media lies.
You're absolutely right.
For centuries Britain got her confidence from the Word of God. In God they "belonged". They had purpose and value. This was shattered by Darwin's Theory of Evolution. There confidence was undermined and promoted undue guilt for having an empire that did so much good in the Earth and carried the Gospel of Christ around the world. The best but unbelieving historians will stop short of openly acknowledging this is that the sin in their own lives will prevent them from doing this.
You all pat yourself on the back while as a country HS2 - which cost 7 times a similar stretch in France - fails due to the fraud allowed at tender stage.
3:23 Because there's more money here than in their homelands.
Because you stole all the gold and deposited it here.
I hope there is hope for this country but it must become British again. David it's so great to listen to you, wish you were our Prime Minister but as you can't, could you suggest a good leader we could have. If this country had good leaders we could survive anything. Why don't you go on TV more, you could educate the stupid, that would help this country a lot