I have decided to break with tradition and upload a new video instead of just listing mistakes in the pinned comment. I'll admit that I largely did this because I wanted to redesign it in regards to audio and pacing. Regardless: 1. Fixed a typo at 2:10 (I typed Moriori as Morori in the previous video in that instance) 2. Explicitly mention the "Moriori genocide" by name to better convey what was happening in 1835. It wasn't technically a mistake to omit that name while describing those events, but I figured I might as well add it. 3. Fixed contradictory phrasing where I said the Moriori were "barring themselves from any sort of resistance." before saying "The Moriori resistance collapses", new phrasing should be clearer. 4. Fixed a miscalculation where I said the 1925 local elections were the first local elections in "over a century" - the Moriori confederacy, which held democratic elections, was disestablished 90 years prior. 5. Fixed mistake in regards to the chronology of the mayoralty in the 2010s. 5.1 I still made a mistake because Patrick Smith didn't die in 2010, he only resigned, but whatever, I've reuploaded it twice now, I have to call it quits and be done with one at some point 5.1.1 Actually, someone named Patrick Smith died in 2010 nypost.com/2010/11/20/wrong-way-drunk-kills-man-in-bronx-crash/ so i am NOT wrong. Ignore the part that said "His deputy, Alfred Preece". 6. You can view the comment section of the previous version here: ruclips.net/video/ljnelgC0iI4/видео.html
Thanks for the interest and care you've taken with this subject. It's quite politically sensitive in New Zealand since white nationalists like to use it to argue against govt policy towards Māori. There is a bit of context that often gets left out when discussing the genocide, but it gets pretty complex. People wonder how the tribes that arrived could be so brutal to the Moriori. The clue is in the words used. If I understand correctly, individual Māori 'slaves' tended to be called 'taurekareka' (war captive - an insult), or later on 'pononga' (bonded) or 'mōkai' (slave/servant). This was a form of slavery, but it wasn't like New Word chattel slavery - these folk were considered humans and often intermarried with their captors. They were deemed lower status and they were not free, but IIRC their rank and work varied and their status/standing could change. In contrast, the Moriori 'slaves' were considered 'paraiwhara', which is apparently a trnsliteration of 'blackfulla'. If I understand correctly, this was a new concept in Māoridom that came from Australian sailors and referred to the way Australian settlers/settler authorities dealt with Aboriginal Australians. It gets a lot more complicated and I'm not a historian, so here are some (reliable) resources if you're interested: Historical report - forms.justice.govt.nz/search/Documents/WT/wt_DOC_68595363/Rekohu%20Report%202016%20Reprint.pdf Radio NZ - ruclips.net/video/b0WclQV6Fis/видео.html
Did you ever hear the tragedy of the Moriori? I thought not. It’s not a story the pacifists would tell you. It’s a militarist legend. The Moriori were a Polynesian people, so peaceful and so wise they could use traditions to sustain life… They had such a knowledge of tradition that they could even keep the ones they cared about from dying. Tradition is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural. They became so peaceful… the only thing they were afraid of was losing their way of life, which eventually, of course, they did. Unfortunately, the warlike Maori came to know of the Moriori, and then came to slaughter them en masse. Ironic. They could save others from death, but not themselves.
Good video. I've always been impressed by the Polynesian and later Maori seafaring ability even with such rudimentary tools to be able to find such a small island so far away from NZ (about the same distance as Sweden to the UK)
Nothing from 1590-1790? Also, this is quite interesting, I wonder how do you know about this info, since there aren't even a lot of image of Archeological artifacts from the pre-contact era of the Chatham Islands.
Events in the 16th century derive largely from oral history (i.e. history passed down from father to son across many generations). I wish we had written records for this period, but without any, oral history will have to do. Archaeology allows us to verify the claims of oral history that Pitt Island was the first island to the settled. Furthermore, archaeology allows us to ballpark the initial arrival of humans to the Chathams to around 1500. We can also tell from bodily remains that the average Moriori from that period had a life expectancy of 32, and from that we can extrapolate that Moriori would typically have their first child around age 17 or 18, and from that, I normalize a generation to lasting 18 years.
Also, something *does* happen between 1590 and 1790: The Moriori grow from 3 tribes to 9 tribes, although oral history glosses over how this exactly occurred.
I made a video on it a few years ago. ruclips.net/video/dGe_cw9YswY/видео.html Also, if you have a Discord account, I'd suggest visiting Ollie Bye's server for more advice: discord.gg/XH9CU9vG
I have a question for you, since you managed to retrieve some Karu's videos - Khey Pard had a video about Ottoman-Mamluk wars, which he deleted; do you possibly have that video?
Rocker Jaw bones an non Rocker Jaws Ginger haired people and ability to carve Jade that's harder than steel are facts that indicate a very earlier civilisation that existed alongside the Waitaha and the Ancient people of the Kaipara that were also victims of Genocide.
Great video. A slower dialog would be good thanks. Makes you wonder why the modern Maori have issue with those that colonised them??? A bit ironical don't you think. Maybe if the Europeans practiced colonisation such as the Maori did things would be totally different here today. I don't condone genocide by any race. Yet, it existed here in N.Z. in 1835!
That was a common myth created by European colonisers so please let me explain. Around the year 1350, the Māori immigrated on their Waka from polynesia, across the South Pacific to Aotearoa New Zealand. They settled their untouched until 1500 when the moriori people arrived on the east coast of the north island around the Gisborne Hawkes Bay Area. They didn’t stay long and decided to keep sailing for reasons unbeknown to us. They sailed south east until they reached the Chatham Islands and decided to settle there. In the 18th and 19th centuries the UK, France, and the Netherlands colonised New Zealand. After a major war between tribes, where the British provided muskets to certain tribes, the Māori tribes signed the treaty of waitangi (te tiriti o waitangi) which granted t(e uk sovereignty over New Zealand but the Māori protection of their lands and rights. However it was mistranslated purposefully by the British and the Māori rebelled sparking the New Zealand wars. The British consfiscated Māori land from multiple iwi over the years and sold it to European settlers. The Māori were sometimes enslaved but mostly outcasted to rural areas where it was difficult for cultivation. So some Māori fled New Zealand in search for new lands and out of their desperate state of hunger and land deprivation they invaded and occupied the Chatham Islands. They slaughtered many Moriori that rebelled but the Māori outnumbered them. After hearing of this the British twisted the story to make it seem that their desicions in mainland New Zealand were justified. They told the public that the moriori people lived in New Zealand before the Māori and the maori kicked them out and that they were just doing the same thing to invaders of unrightfully owned land. As of today a large amount of the moriori people live in the Chatham Islands but it still remains a part of New Zealand. Hope that cleared things up :)
@@AMKPlayz Mostly accurate but a few errors 1) The Moriori are a branch of the Maori. They were not kicked out, nor were they in New Zealand "before" the Maori. They willing departed *from* New Zealand and arrived in the Chathams in 1500. They were not "new visitors" to New Zealand in the vein of Abel Tasman. 2) The Moriori outnumbered the invading Maori in 1835, but their strict pacifism prevented them from resistance.
Nobody knows what happened to Khey Pard but it's presumed that he's trolling. Last that I heard of Danzig, they became a trans woman. A.S. Mapping stated that he banned Danzig for posting porn of themself (I presume they went on to do OnlyFans trans porn content? Also, I'm calling Danzig "they" because every time that you refer to a trans person by any gendered pronoun it invites an off-topic argument about whether transgenderism is valid)
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I have decided to break with tradition and upload a new video instead of just listing mistakes in the pinned comment. I'll admit that I largely did this because I wanted to redesign it in regards to audio and pacing. Regardless:
1. Fixed a typo at 2:10 (I typed Moriori as Morori in the previous video in that instance)
2. Explicitly mention the "Moriori genocide" by name to better convey what was happening in 1835. It wasn't technically a mistake to omit that name while describing those events, but I figured I might as well add it.
3. Fixed contradictory phrasing where I said the Moriori were "barring themselves from any sort of resistance." before saying "The Moriori resistance collapses", new phrasing should be clearer.
4. Fixed a miscalculation where I said the 1925 local elections were the first local elections in "over a century" - the Moriori confederacy, which held democratic elections, was disestablished 90 years prior.
5. Fixed mistake in regards to the chronology of the mayoralty in the 2010s.
5.1 I still made a mistake because Patrick Smith didn't die in 2010, he only resigned, but whatever, I've reuploaded it twice now, I have to call it quits and be done with one at some point
5.1.1 Actually, someone named Patrick Smith died in 2010 nypost.com/2010/11/20/wrong-way-drunk-kills-man-in-bronx-crash/ so i am NOT wrong. Ignore the part that said "His deputy, Alfred Preece".
6. You can view the comment section of the previous version here: ruclips.net/video/ljnelgC0iI4/видео.html
Thanks for the interest and care you've taken with this subject. It's quite politically sensitive in New Zealand since white nationalists like to use it to argue against govt policy towards Māori.
There is a bit of context that often gets left out when discussing the genocide, but it gets pretty complex. People wonder how the tribes that arrived could be so brutal to the Moriori. The clue is in the words used. If I understand correctly, individual Māori 'slaves' tended to be called 'taurekareka' (war captive - an insult), or later on 'pononga' (bonded) or 'mōkai' (slave/servant). This was a form of slavery, but it wasn't like New Word chattel slavery - these folk were considered humans and often intermarried with their captors. They were deemed lower status and they were not free, but IIRC their rank and work varied and their status/standing could change. In contrast, the Moriori 'slaves' were considered 'paraiwhara', which is apparently a trnsliteration of 'blackfulla'. If I understand correctly, this was a new concept in Māoridom that came from Australian sailors and referred to the way Australian settlers/settler authorities dealt with Aboriginal Australians.
It gets a lot more complicated and I'm not a historian, so here are some (reliable) resources if you're interested:
Historical report - forms.justice.govt.nz/search/Documents/WT/wt_DOC_68595363/Rekohu%20Report%202016%20Reprint.pdf
Radio NZ - ruclips.net/video/b0WclQV6Fis/видео.html
Did you ever hear the tragedy of the Moriori? I thought not. It’s not a story the pacifists would tell you. It’s a militarist legend. The Moriori were a Polynesian people, so peaceful and so wise they could use traditions to sustain life… They had such a knowledge of tradition that they could even keep the ones they cared about from dying. Tradition is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural. They became so peaceful… the only thing they were afraid of was losing their way of life, which eventually, of course, they did. Unfortunately, the warlike Maori came to know of the Moriori, and then came to slaughter them en masse. Ironic. They could save others from death, but not themselves.
real sad and whats sadder is they dont teach that in schools here across nz
Good video. I've always been impressed by the Polynesian and later Maori seafaring ability even with such rudimentary tools to be able to find such a small island so far away from NZ (about the same distance as Sweden to the UK)
I'm from the Chatham island
Amazing. I'm so glad my video has reached its subject!
Nice video.
Are you back? Also very interesting! [Fixed]
Yes, I am back.
@@Koopinator based. [Fixed]
@@stephmod7434 LMAO
@@outerspace7391 xD.
@@Koopinator can u make a map about kurdistan 1979 rebellion if u want I can help u because I have most of the information
good one
Wait, accurate historical videos about Aotearoa exist on RUclips? Its not all Kaimanawa wall and redheadded maori? Nga mihi e hoa for the mahi
The map itself look like a dead wyvern dragon.
Nothing from 1590-1790?
Also, this is quite interesting, I wonder how do you know about this info, since there aren't even a lot of image of Archeological artifacts from the pre-contact era of the Chatham Islands.
Events in the 16th century derive largely from oral history (i.e. history passed down from father to son across many generations). I wish we had written records for this period, but without any, oral history will have to do.
Archaeology allows us to verify the claims of oral history that Pitt Island was the first island to the settled. Furthermore, archaeology allows us to ballpark the initial arrival of humans to the Chathams to around 1500. We can also tell from bodily remains that the average Moriori from that period had a life expectancy of 32, and from that we can extrapolate that Moriori would typically have their first child around age 17 or 18, and from that, I normalize a generation to lasting 18 years.
Also, something *does* happen between 1590 and 1790: The Moriori grow from 3 tribes to 9 tribes, although oral history glosses over how this exactly occurred.
YOO MAKE VID OF THE NZ LAND WARSSSS PLSSS I TRIED BUT LIKE I CULDNT GET PROPER INFO YK
I wanted to in 2023, but it was so confusing and made me want to pull my hair out.
How you research battles and movements in mapping videos
I made a video on it a few years ago. ruclips.net/video/dGe_cw9YswY/видео.html
Also, if you have a Discord account, I'd suggest visiting Ollie Bye's server for more advice: discord.gg/XH9CU9vG
@@Koopinator thank you so much
I have a question for you, since you managed to retrieve some Karu's videos - Khey Pard had a video about Ottoman-Mamluk wars, which he deleted; do you possibly have that video?
Sorry, no.
Based
Rocker Jaw bones an non Rocker Jaws Ginger haired people and ability to carve Jade that's harder than steel are facts that indicate a very earlier civilisation that existed alongside the Waitaha and the Ancient people of the Kaipara that were also victims of Genocide.
So in 1860 there were 200 left, what happened to them?
They stuck around. As of 2013, 36 Moriori remain.
Great video. A slower dialog would be good thanks. Makes you wonder why the modern Maori have issue with those that colonised them??? A bit ironical don't you think. Maybe if the Europeans practiced colonisation such as the Maori did things would be totally different here today. I don't condone genocide by any race. Yet, it existed here in N.Z. in 1835!
very sad what maori did to their own people
Eh, it happens everywhere. That's history.
@@outerspace7391 yes but usualy an ethnic Group genocides a different ethnic group not their own
@@NeroPiroman not necessarily always
That was a common myth created by European colonisers so please let me explain. Around the year 1350, the Māori immigrated on their Waka from polynesia, across the South Pacific to Aotearoa New Zealand. They settled their untouched until 1500 when the moriori people arrived on the east coast of the north island around the Gisborne Hawkes Bay Area. They didn’t stay long and decided to keep sailing for reasons unbeknown to us. They sailed south east until they reached the Chatham Islands and decided to settle there. In the 18th and 19th centuries the UK, France, and the Netherlands colonised New Zealand. After a major war between tribes, where the British provided muskets to certain tribes, the Māori tribes signed the treaty of waitangi (te tiriti o waitangi) which granted t(e uk sovereignty over New Zealand but the Māori protection of their lands and rights. However it was mistranslated purposefully by the British and the Māori rebelled sparking the New Zealand wars. The British consfiscated Māori land from multiple iwi over the years and sold it to European settlers. The Māori were sometimes enslaved but mostly outcasted to rural areas where it was difficult for cultivation. So some Māori fled New Zealand in search for new lands and out of their desperate state of hunger and land deprivation they invaded and occupied the Chatham Islands. They slaughtered many Moriori that rebelled but the Māori outnumbered them. After hearing of this the British twisted the story to make it seem that their desicions in mainland New Zealand were justified. They told the public that the moriori people lived in New Zealand before the Māori and the maori kicked them out and that they were just doing the same thing to invaders of unrightfully owned land. As of today a large amount of the moriori people live in the Chatham Islands but it still remains a part of New Zealand. Hope that cleared things up :)
@@AMKPlayz Mostly accurate but a few errors
1) The Moriori are a branch of the Maori. They were not kicked out, nor were they in New Zealand "before" the Maori. They willing departed *from* New Zealand and arrived in the Chathams in 1500. They were not "new visitors" to New Zealand in the vein of Abel Tasman.
2) The Moriori outnumbered the invading Maori in 1835, but their strict pacifism prevented them from resistance.
Damn it looks so much like france
Hey what flag is ur pfp?
It's the flag of Koopinator.
Slides are too quick to read!
koopinator, do you know what happened to danzig hd and khey pard? their pfps and bios got changed. could you communicate with them?
Nobody knows what happened to Khey Pard but it's presumed that he's trolling.
Last that I heard of Danzig, they became a trans woman. A.S. Mapping stated that he banned Danzig for posting porn of themself (I presume they went on to do OnlyFans trans porn content? Also, I'm calling Danzig "they" because every time that you refer to a trans person by any gendered pronoun it invites an off-topic argument about whether transgenderism is valid)
@@Koopinator ah, i see. i did suspect that danzig wasn't trolling and did become trans.
@Polar waffles munastronaut#9612
@@Koopinator so is danzig a man or woman?
@@nikolaanimations6944 Depends on your definition of "man" and "woman". Born a man, now identifies as a woman.
Why are you racing though this.
Bit hard trying to keep up that I just stopped reading all together.
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