Shadow recovery: In my experience, canon has ALWAYS had terrible shadow recovery. The banding was pretty awful and ruined a handful of shots. With Fuji, the noise more closely resembles film grain so you can still get usable shots if they're underexposed Lens weight: I absolutely do not miss lugging heavy EF lenses up to the top of mountains. I can now literally fit fuji lenses in my pocket. Aesthetics: I once heard you say "Never discount the way a camera makes you feel" and I subscribe to that philosophy. I feel a camera is more than just a tool. It's an extension of me. Plus at the price point, why not have it look nice? But more importantly, I don't think the manual controls are strictly about the aesthetics. I feel like they just simplify your workflow not having to click in and out of menus to change the aperture, shutter speed, etc.. Everything is right there in front of me instead of hiding in a menu
My Fuji 56mm f1.2 can render some incredibly thin depth of field. It's got bokeh for days as well. Definitely more than I need. In my experience the difference in bokeh/DOF is just not important. I just love the overall user experience of Fuji cameras. They just work how I always wanted a camera to work.
@@davidmskiba I find fuji lenses expensive. Im already in the canon system and the rp is pretty much $1000 now more of an xt30 price. Also i think RF lenses stomp fuji lenses easily.
@@kingsamvisuals compared even to sigma art the fujis are crap. 56 1.2? Numbers dont count that way on apsc. Try the 85 1.4 sigma art. Similar price but way better
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**Couple point of clarification** I mentioned the X-T3 can shoot up to 20 FPS bursts. But that's on the electronic shutter, and in the example, I was shooting in the 11 FPS mechanically. I just wanted to make sure I didn't confuse anyone. Also, I mentioned the RP loses dual pixel auto in video, but that's only in 4k.
My dude, petapixel blog took your last video. Idk if you gave then permission, they posted your video, but I thought it was kind of sneaky to hijack your content.
I have only considered Fuji vs Canon in choosing my first camera. I went with the RP because of autofocus and I got the RP cheaper here in Canada ($1,200 body) than the XT3 (1,700 body). Plus my sister gave me her EF 50mm f1.4 so no brainer for me
The Fujifilm X-T3 was one of the best pickups and additions to my gear for my photography business. Plus it's video shooting capabilities are teaching me more and more as I go along. The best part; being a photographer for the better 27 years, majority of it in film photography in my earlier years. So the film simulation is an amazing blend of old school nostalgia with new tech.
Great comparison review Andrew!! Ive always had the "ITCH" of buying a full frame mirrorless camera in addition to my fuji system but after watching your excellent review i think ill invest in a new fuji camera body instead! Keep up your excellent review's!! O love watching them here in th UK.
Hey Andrew, thanks a lot for the video. For comparing low light performance, perhaps a good indicator is shooting at identical shutter speed and aperture and then comparing the noise and shadow recovery. That would make it a more real life test than forcing both of them to underexpose, since the full frame might not have the same necessity to do that.
I got the RP because of the used lens market, bokeh, and existing lenses/flash. Wished it had the frame rate of Fuji and dual cards though. The new firmware made the focus even better.
@@dhoogduin but no where near the reliability of the dual pixel AF. I sold the XT3 and all the lenses + fringer after trying out the RP with EF adapter. Im doing some paid work and the end product of the production is the same.
Both cameras are currently going for $999 us on amazon. I think either way you're getting amazing value. Sensor size wasn't a huge concern for me considering my 50mm 1.8 on my canon rebel body was plenty shallow in terms of DOF, so I went with the X-T3 + the Fringer canon ef adapter. The adapter so far has given me the same AF speed as when I used my canon lenses on the 200d natively, even though that camera had Dual Pixel AF just like this RP. I've been super happy with it so far and I can't wait to start doing more shoots with it in the future. Thanks for the awesome comparison! Remember y'all, no matter the sensor size, choose the camera that YOU will enjoy using :)
Great info about the low lighting recoverability between both cameras! I didn’t know that. Great vid. Xt3 FTW. I still love the canon colors and look. However, I haven’t touched my canon gear since I got my xt3 last year.
@@sl2608 - I sold off ALL of my Canon gear and used the money to purchase tons of Fuji gear. My trade in costs just about covered ALL my Fuji gear. Looking back on it, I think the real discussion isn't about which camera system is "better," to me, it's about which system best suits my needs. I am fond of my Canon days for sure! But Fuji better fits my needs today.
Sold the XT3 and went back to Canon with the RP. The autofocus is just so much more reliable on the RP in video than the XT3. Sure manual focus is an option, but I want it just to work. And sure, in som cases the DR was better in the XT3, but being able to recover in that way is not going to happen in real world shooting. If im shooting a scene with extreme DR I would have double exposed the image on both the Fuji or the Canon. One real flaw is that Lightroom never ever handles the file of the XT3 as good as Canon files, theres always that wormy stressy look to it. But the main thing is, Canon glass is really good and especially the new RF lenses which in my opinion, hands down, blows the Fuji out of the water. But I do sometimes miss the ability to strip down the Fuji without grip, smack on the 27mm pancake (which is a really underated lens) and have the ability to put it in the pocket of my winter jacket. The RP does not fit ;)
I went the opposite way. You have to learn how to process in lightroom or use capture. focus isn't quite as good but my my xt2 even blew the RP out of the water for just about everything else. Fuji glass is better than most canon except the L line.
Yup, also when shooting at wide Angles ... the Fuji stills look like an iPhone. The canon stills look like a professional canera. Any size sensor can look good for a telephoto portrait ... wide angle subject separation is where a larger sensor separates itself ...
I think this is just a fanboy. Saying he's using the RP (budget) but uses the RF glass (very expensive ones). Nice story bro.... I'd believe you if you said you changed to the R, not the RP. LMAO. Nice try tho right?
@@christrianrodriguez2055 you may think what you want. I'm so much fanboy that I now use Sony ;) And even with that brand where there's plenty of fanboys I'm not one of them :). And BTW reading your comments from your profile says a whole lot more about fanboyism ;)
Great video. Apples and oranges here though. Pro APS-C v entry level FF. Different users. Both are great systems with benefits for different users. If you have Fuji XT-3 then why change pro features for entry level. Price here is maybe not the best reason to match up both cameras if you are deciding on a system and need / want pro features or non pro features. I think Canon shooters are now thankful that they can upgrade to FF and stay with the system they know and have lenses for or cheap second hand lens options (50mm F1.8). Fuji shooters can stay happy with their choice of great gear XT-3. Both produce great results. BTW let's hope you don't under expose too often. ;) Again great video.
I've saved thousands of pounds with Canon - I bought the 5D Mark III around 6 years ago and the lack of Canon innovation has meant I haven't felt the need to upgrade bodies since then :D) (I'm a hobbyist though - each to their own).
Mat Colosus same here, I still use my 6D for that reason. I have ordered a Fuji xt-30. No longer interested in the way Canon looks out for the hobbyists. That cripple hammer just annoys me. 🧐
Had both, sold the Fuji. For the type of shooting that I do (mostly indoors), family documenting, the Canon gives me better, cleaner files at any iso. Saving up for that RF 50mm 1.2
About buying cheap older EF lenses, that's what i'm doing now and I'm using them with a Fringer EF-FX Pro II adapter on my X-T3. A bit expensive, but works great!
Nice comparison. I own both cameras, however the RP touch-focus with the latest firmware slaughters the X-T3. It’s also faster and more accurate in low light.
@@AndrewGoodCamera -6EV autofocus is a new hardware feature, not something Fuji can introduce with a firmware update. I don't think it's coming to the X-T3.
Yeah on paper the xt3 seem like the best ever ... and they are fine for lots of uses. When you use your canera every day the canon proves it’s design like bmw or apple ... it just works
My first real camera was the Canon M50, which I loved but unfortunately it was stolen about a year after having it… so I decided to give Fujifilm a try. I have had my Fuji for over a year now and on Black Friday pulled the trigger on Canon refurb RP for only $599… Fuji Pros 1. Beautiful JPEG simulations 2. Store custom JPEG settings 3. Smaller bodies and lenses (in some cases, the RP and 50mm is just as small). 4. In the case of X-S10, great slow motion and video options. 5. Lenses are cheaper than Canon, however my RF 50mm was $80 Canon refurb, and my 35mm 1.8 was only $299 canon refurb, cheaper than most Fuji lenses 6. Overall a cooler looking camera. Makes you want to pick it up. 7. Metal lenses and marked aperture rings. Canon Pros 1. The autofocus system besides being more reliable, is overall just so much easier to use without needing to constantly switch modes or move a focus point around with a joystick - that was my biggest frustration with Fuji. 2. The Canon RPs viewfinder is much better than the X-S10, much more comfortable to use. 3. The Canon remote app works so much better, and is actually usable for self portrait or group shots. 4. RF glass is insanely crisp and detailed, the clarity is unreal. 5. Better ergonomics on Canon. 6. Full frame with all the pros involved. 7. Menu system is much easier to understand. 8. Better and more intuitive button layout. 9. Face/eye detect is much more reliable and accurate. With Fuji it was constantly finding faces in bushes and rocks, or not quite getting focus even when it said it was in focus. I feel like overall it feels like Canon produces a tool that is extremely good at what it does, while the Fuji takes a different route and puts more “soul” into their cameras. I do find it funny to consider Canon has been making cameras for nearly 100 years and used to make Fuji “looking” cameras back in the day. Canon has a very long and cool history. I thought I’d want to sell my Fuji immediately after switching but think I want to hold onto both… they’re just fun for different reasons. Hope this helps!
Lol! I own both, too. Couldn't decide, and with a little patience, I got great deals on both. Was concerned I was falling victim to Gear Acquisition Syndrome. Glad I'm not the only one. Happy shooting!
First I applaud you for this type of comparison! A Canon FF vs. a Fuji APS-C...wow. I am a Fuji X-T3 user who came from Nikon FF (D810)., and will just say, I do not miss ANYTHING about the D810! (Fantastic camera, a real Nikon jewel). In regards to depth of field, I have to say that Fuji 16mm f1.4 and the 56mm f1.2 are the FF depth of field myth buster! That's the Equiv. of an FF f2.1 and f1.8 which most agree are pretty darn fast and can provide a depth of field and bokeh acceptable to any FF user, after all,is said, it won't be the camera...it'll be the photographer. There are cameras suited for whatever kind of shooter you are, so I would suggest individual research into what would suit your needs. Fuji suits my needs. To those who have the Canon, you have a fantastic camera if it suits your needs.
XT3 was my favourite camera to use, hold etc but i switched to RP and i'm just so much more satisfied with the images. I know Fujifilm thinks apsc and medium format are the sweet spots but when i see small full frame cameras with f1.8 lenses i can't help but think that's the best compromise of size and quality
I also did the switch from XT3 to RP and couldn't be happier. The market of used EF lenses are huge and works so much better on the RP than on Fuji + fringer.
In the shallow depth of field comparison, which lenses were used on each camera and what was the f/stop on each lens set at? Important to know, makes a difference.
Very interesting and fair comparison. As a photographer I find the flip out screen useful for architecture when shooting at odd angles but, to my mind, that would be the only real life advantage of Canon RP. It seems that here, even the dynamic range is better on the newer apsc sensor. Canon should really invest in some newer solutions in that area. As a Canon user I am constantly tempted by other brands now because of that.
Great video! Thanks for the info. Canon just announced that the RP (among other 2019 camera models) is going to get the 24fps via a firmware update this month.
The dept of field at 6:10 was blatantly obvious (right was RP). But probably not for someone who doesnt do photography. But sometimes too much blur can be worse, because people usually care more about whats in focus.
it is quiet an interesting comparison, for X-T3 everything tick the boxes, but an APSC sensro, and in the other hand RP has the basic functions, nothing more, with a FF sensor. Your video showed perfect example for breaking the FF myth that general consumers have (or general lies from marketing).
@@RodrigoAReyes95 currently on B&H, if you select body only, then select build bundle, you can add the 56mm for a total of $1798... might be a glitch. But adorama also has the option for $1999
thank you for your video. i know both cameras pretty well.. without a doubt you can brighten up the shadows on the fuji better, but what should not be forgotten is the smaller reserve for the highlights on the fuji. i almost always took pictures with -2/3 f-stops or even more on my fuji to be a bit more confident with the highlights, which is uncomfortable because all photos are a bit dark before postprocessing. with the rp you have more reserve for the highlights and therefore you have to brighten less. you have to work with the characteristics of the camera. i like the handling and the menu navigation much better on the rp than on the fujis, but it is also just my backup camera to the r5, as my only camera i would probably use something else.
As an ex canon wedding shooter and a now FujiFilm X travel shooter. I would take the FujiFilm XT3 all day long. That is because that is the best tool for the job / situations that I shoot right now. An interesting thing I found out on Friday at a Wex (was calumet) open day here in the UK. was that I compared a GFX R to the Canon Eos R RAW files which I shot with. In my opinion the Canon files were significantly much cleaner than the GFX R files. Also Looking back to my last canon cameras files (5d Mark iii).Comparing to my XT3. Again the Canon files were a lot cleaner. However the weight factor alone puts me off going back to canon. I shot the 28-70 F2.0 and the 85 F1.2 on Friday on the eosr and the images were absolutely stunning. So to sum this up.... The Canon’s image Quality is better than the FujiFilm. FujiFilm has a lighter package with better AF. FujiFilm is also the camera you don’t mind taking with you everywhere you go. And that is why I would take the FujiFilm out of the 2.
I have the Eos R and like u mentioned the weight of the lenses becomes an issue when travelling so I’ve been looking for a more light weight setup so maybe the XT-3 is a good fit. You mentioned the canon images are cleaner, how noticeable is this ?
A good and balanced video. I just sold my XT-3 for an EOS-R (but would have done the same for an RP if the R was not an option). As you rightly point out, it's hard to compare these two cameras (systems really). I find the Fuji X experience to be more involved and fun, and it's a smaller and lighter kit when accounting for lenses. These were the two most important factors that initially sold me the XT-3. I purchased the X-T3 primarily for casual and family events -- it's less intimidating and stealthy than a larger FF system w/ the big fast glass, and the uninformed family member thinks nothing of it unlike bringing a more serious *looking* professional camera. For example, I don't get any questions about my gear w/ the X-T3, which is nice. The problem is that such events often rely on natural and suboptimal lighting, and the autofocusing system on the XT3 leaves a lot to be desired in such environments (my opinion, of course). This was one of the factors that led me question if the XT3 is right for me. Small form factor, low weight, fun-to-use, and stealthy are what sold me on the system but what matters most is how many keepers I have when the party's over. I get better results with other systems. YMMV. For anyone considering buying into the X system, my advice is to give careful thought to if this is a system you see yourself staying with long-term. The lenses, while small in size, are not small in price. The native Canon RF glass is even more expensive, but there are lots of affordable EF options out there (used and new), and Sigma is expected to announce RF mount support in early 2020. In general, ecosystem support for Canon is much better than Fuji (and just about any other OEM for that matter). One should also give consideration to resale value. I've sold Fuji and Canikon gear online, and there is no doubt that Canikon gear is more sellable and returns a higher percentage. In fact, I offloaded my latest batch of Fuji lenses to KEH because they weren't selling, whereas my native Nikon gear sold almost instantly (so much so, that I regretted no pricing higher, which started out as a higher percentage of new than what I was asking for my Fuji lenses). So, again, if you're an experienced shooter, have tried lots of different systems, and are sure that Fuji is right for you today and in the long run, then more power to you. None of what I just said here matters. As for the Canon R/RP, it's a v1 stopgap offering being compared to a v3 product (XT-3). For my use case, the Canon simply focuses much better. I also find the Canon more ergonomic and efficient to use, although not as fun as the Fuji (very much in line with assessment provide here). Canon is bringing it with there RF glass and I anticipate we're going to see some exciting bodies to match the glass in 2020, and they will have certainly got it right by v3. Sony / Fuji got the jump on Canon w/ mirrorless, but Canon has awoken and will give a good fight, and likely reclaim their dominance.
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Fujifilm x-t3 4k 60 fps - Canon r / rp 4k 30 fps by by canon hello fujifilm
your right,. canon will go for a big one,. that RF glasses show that there are really really serious about R System,. when canon release body with IBIS + RF LENSE IS + DIGITAL STABILIZATION, that will be a big comeback to canon,. ill be shooting all my shoot by hand held,..
Thanks for the detailed comment. I own a RP with a few pieces of. Ice class but for some reason have been flirting with the Fuji world but fast autofocus is paramount. Maybe I should just save up and go for the R6 or R5
Last week i shot a concert in low light with my trusty xt2, after 900 shots i had to change my first battery...just saying... it depends how you use your gear and how it drains your battery...
I'm convinced X-T3 is the better camera of the two. And also convinced a photographer who knows what they are doing can produce pro results with either of these. And no, one card slot will not stop me using the RP :) In my country 6D was one of the most popular models among pros for years. This RP is pretty much it, but mirrorless.
its better to invest in canon, rather than fuji,. that RF lenses is a game changer, when the time canon release a pro body with IBIS + RF IS + DIGITAL IS, that will be insane,.
RP is good camera for starting to buid-up your RF lenses,. then you can upgrade to higher pro camera like r3, r5,. while in fuji your already in deadend with no more improvements in camera system,.
I think the sensor of the x-t3 is better isn't it (dynamic range etc) + video capabilities are much higher. I feel like x-t3 and now 4 are higher end aps-c cameras whereas the Rp is an entry level full frame( it might be better Than the x-t3 in low light a bit but that's it) isn't it?
I have both and love them. With Fuji, I get tank build quality and sharpness galore. With Canon, I get access to 30+ years of great lenses, FF depth, and light weight coupled with ease of use. Both take incredible photos if you have the skill to use them. I use them both along with my Sony gear.
Canon RP 24-105 4f + 35rf 1.8 FUJIFILM XT 3 18-55 2.8 + 16 2.8 mm Camera I need for fashion , club , concert photos . In order to keep the ISO high , there was a good dynamic range . Photos that would be sharp. And the video recorded perfectly . Which of the two options will you choose ?
@6:00 yay, a great way to put it. That's a lot of extra money and weight over the whole system (lenses) IF you aren't someone who shoots wide open all the time.
I won’t be able to afford a new camera for some time anyway, and I have neither of these cameras. But I do have a Canon 80D and Fuji X-T20, I consider them very different cameras for different uses. I got the X-T20 as an affordable entry into the mirrorless world, and all my research led me to Fuji being the best option after Canon’s then-new EOS M5 disappointed by being too expensive, and just as importantly, the lens lineup was a disappointment, plasticky and slow consumer lenses, and considering how long their M line has been around, a paltry selection. For my use, I like using the Fuji for walkabout photography with a selection of primes plus the kit 18-55mm, it comes across as less intimidating, can be completely quiet and stealthy, and doesn’t look Pro, it doesn’t attract as muc attention. However, for assignments as a photographer with my big heavy 70-200mm, or Sigma 18-35mm, I use my Canon as it is weighted better for large lenses, has the had grip to support them, and is much faster to work with, with focus etc, has much longer battery life, and is reliable and dependable, whereas the Fuji X-T20 sometimes plays up, something in firmware, and the focusing of a lot of their lenses is much slower than on Canon. It is a dependable work-horse, whereas the Fuji is my for-fun walk around camera, small and light, more useful with manual lenses like Samyang or Laowa ultra wides and fisheye, which I like using, or even vintage lenses. Experimenting with Astro, I’ve ended up using the Fuji, just because of the wide lenses I have for it, and I like using it, even though it is easier to work with the Canon in the dark, and the greater battery is useful with long exposures through the night. As for the shadow recovery, that was one of the things that convinced me to try Fuji, whereas the amount of noise at high /ISO is about the same, the Fuji noise looks like film with no chromatic noise, and no banding, whereas Canon is not ISO invariant, and the colour noise when pushed looks bad. I basically like both for different purposes, and I am not overawed by the manual knobs of the Fuji versus the more modern controls of the Canon, which gives you great ergonomics and one-handed control of things like Aperture or shutter speed, and more besides. Two things I really like about the Fuji is the easy transfer of images with the wifi keyed to the top recessed button, which makes it quick and practical to share a photo to my phone, which I ended up not bothering with on the Canon, as it was more fiddle, and I often had issues with. Another thing, very useful in the Australian summer, is the auto-dynamic range; having experimented with it, I know it applies to the Raw file, and works very well, preserving sky highlights even with the subject in shadow, which is a great thing, removing my need to experiment with HDR and all the issues of things moving between frames, let along the hassle of making them. The Highlight and Shadow sliders in Capture One does the rest. I now always use Auto ISO with Auto-DR, as I find it only engages when I actually need it. Canon has their own feature, but you have to dig into the menu every time to enable and disable it, and I haven’t tested it to the same extent, if it applies to Raw, and how well it works in comparison to Fuji’s implementation.
I've owned both. One thing that immediately stands out on RP at least to me is comfortable grip. Fuji XT line just does not have a pronounced grip, and the extra grip which I always get, only covers half of the area. RP grip is just so much more comfortable. Love articulating display. Love the 35 1.8 RF lens, so small and 1:2 Macro. Phenomenal Jpegs out of RP. But that's pretty much it. ADOBE does not support native camera profiles for Canon RP, and adobe profiles for RP are god-awful. Autofocus was not good (I sold my RP before the latest 1.3 Firmware, which, I hear fixes things).
With Fuji, there seems to be more of an eco-system of less expensive manual focus lens to play with (ie: buy, then play with). I suppose many are available for Canon, but when I owned Canon, I was never aware of the possibility. Of course, I owned Canon DSLR, not mirrorless, and so no focus peaking. So... hey... this is why I don't no my own comparison videos! Oh, and I own the X-T30. Slightly slower than the X-T3 at full frame rate, I believe, not WR, one card slot, differences in high end video that can be recorded in the camera, and smaller. But, a good bit cheaper. Same sensor, and processor. And the FX18-55mm f2.8-4 R OIS kit lens is actually pretty nice for a kit lens. This was particularly important to me as I was changing lines altogether and so needed to replace all lens. Well, I didn't want to deal with an EOS adapter at any rate. And for depth of field, I have my KamLan 50mm f1.1 :-)
The Canon system will make sense only if you want to put your hand deep in your pocket and buy the superior - yet - expensive RF L glass (or have plenty of EF slr lenses) .Like RF 16-35 f2.8 , 24-70 f2.8 ,70-200 f 2.8, 50 f1.2 L, 85 f1.2 or fast 1.8/2.0 zooms that will probably announced in the future.I don't think there's any better FF glass out there at that price range. My 2 cents as a Fuji user...
Apart from the price and pixel count, these two bodies can not be more different from each other, it's the choice you'd have to make between the best APS-C and not the best full frame, that said if I'm choosing, I'd probably skip image quality comparisons and go straight into features and lenses.
“I’m not going to get in to it here..” please get into it, your very educational and charismatic. What happens if you do this video with a speed booster on the Fuji? As the RP can’t?
Andrew & Denae Pixel density, back side illuminated, ISO invariant, etc, you had this catch phrase on more occasions also, I’m a new film school student, military retiring and passion project. I’ve been leaning towards the x-T3 and a speed booster as I love vintage lenses.
I may have missed it (sorry if I did...), but how about image stabilization? I'm a great fan of IBIS - do these cameras get any close to the systems that feature such a solution?
In the end the lens is to me the most important tool in order to create a picture. Maybe the IBIS is one of the best arguments for this Canon System itself. The rest of this comparison is really determined by the lenses you can get even though I´ve decided for the xt-3 which makes me pretty unhappy from time to time due to this small range of lenses with that certain "je ne sais quoi " look. As a camera itself the fuji really is as professional as a Camera at this price point can be.
The "Full Frame look", is not a matter of DOF. At least not only that. I am not sure what it is, but if I had to say something, it would be "color depth" and gradation. I saw a big difference in quality, when I returned the X-T2 (within a month) and purchased 5D mark III. And my EOS R is even better.
Thanks for the review. I'd like to mention that most all vloggers when comparing gear have a bit of bias on using cameras for vlogging (IMO). Most viewers on the other hand are photographers and rarely use the video functions built into their camera (although that is probably changing). I think this tendency of vloggers reviewing gear (who else would be doing it anyway) is having an affect on manufacturers paying more attention on the video aspects and not quite as much on still photography. Still, most all new cameras today far exceed anything that was available even two years ago. And like the move from film to digital and then (D)SLR to Mirrorless the paradigm is always on the move. Two years ago not one of my fellow 150+ photography club members used video, now it is about 20%.
xt3 is wonderful... for showing it to your friends.. you can never go wrong with fullframe. the details are much better. i sold my xt3 and xh1 to go back to canons 5d4
I am a Nikon lover but for my second body I just bought Canon 5DIV with a 300 f/2.8L IIS USM, a 24-70 f/2.8L IS USM and a 100 f/2.8 L IS USM. I was very much tempted to add fuji instead but these canon colour won my heart. My Takumar lenses will have to pair with Nikon now. I liked your comment. Very soon I will enjoy shooting in beautiful Stuttgart
Thanks for this video. You help me to decide corretly. I was wrong thinking that RP is a better machine to shoot in low light. But I love sensors with good Dynamic Range and your test is on the most clarity level. Denifinitely X-T3 is the BEST OPTION. Is a Pro level camera. RP is more for enthusiast and people to want to do the basics with FF format.
Depends on a lens. In my experience it's about 500 with a 23/2, 350 with 90/2. Surprisingly, manual lenses are somehow closer to the latter. Maybe that's because they require more "screen time" for focusing. X-E3.
Thank you very much, great video as usual! :) I have one question with respect to the topic of FF vs APSC: People tend to focus on low ISO, DR, DOF, but what I am wondering, especially when shooting portraits, is how much does lens compression affect the shot? I feel that is really where the big difference in looks come from. E.g., I think there was a stark difference in looks between the two shots you showed, not that I think either was bad, but I felt the difference was less in the DOF and more in the way his face was projected. Is that something you guys could make a video about?
Since you have both, is it true that the XT2 has better looking low light image files than the XT3? I thought I saw a video where they were saying the back side illuminator sacrificed high ISO. Just curious.
From an rp owner. Please dont get the rp, only if you like to be disappointed, or dont have any expectations from your camera video and even photo specs and usability, basically everything! I hope to sell it and go on the fuji train with xt3
Andrew, there are a few factual mistakes in the video: The FF sensor is ~2.3 times bigger than APS-C, the EOS system is 32 years old, and the Fuji can shoot 390 photos per CIPA ratings.
Comparing a full frame sensor to an APS-C it's probably worth mention that a bigger sensor will give you a better quality wide angle. As to bokeh and noise there is quite insignificant difference in real life. But the weight of FF lenses is quite significant usually.
No there is no perceptible image quality improvement in the RP vs X-t3 sensor. Full frame does not magically equal better image quality (sometimes, yes, but not in this case).
@@AndrewGoodCamera In most cases - yes. But if you shoot especially indoor or other quite tight spaces and you need a wide angle - a bigger format you have the more natural perspective you can get. As an example - Gregory Crewdson.
@@alexosiichuk9603 As for me I haven't tried RP on video. I don't think there's any significant difference in bokeh (surely comparing on same apertures). The bigger problem in my opinion in 1.6 4k crop that you might need ultra wide lenses - 20mm FF will be just 32mm wide when shooting 4K..
It seems all fuji users on youtube are gathered here 😀. As a well built machinery I'd pick the fuji, as a daily camera, or a pro work camera I'd pick the canon any day, the convenient work flow, great IQ, low light performance , autofocus, the ability to take more separated images are far better. Fuji sits there in an odd place, for an artsy camera I'd go with Hasselblad or if I could afford it a leica, not fuji.
story is different if you invest to a camera system... Fuji camera/lens is good if you can buy them origin from Japan factory, however it's impossible. You pay for a second grade product with Fuji!!!
@@AndrewGoodCamerabut have you tested Fuji's face and eye detection, plus AF tracking? Check Northrup test 10 cameras round up. It out performed the A7III.
Face / eye detection tests where people pop into and out of frame are wildly inaccurate and extremely far from scientific (see Gerald Undone's thoughts on this, which I agree with). Aside from an extremely involved scientific test, which no RUclipsr is capable, or at least has not undertaken, the best we can do is go off of industry reported patterns. This is the first I've heard of anyone claiming Fuji's Face/Eye is more accurate than Sony or Canon's, other than the random commenter who wants to be right about their decision to purchase Fuji. To be clear, I wish Fuji was better. I've invested thousands into Fuji. But as an ex portrait photographer who used Fuji and Canon, I recognize that Fuji has a ways to go yet.
I haven't got any Fuji gear. Got a 6D. Northrop does not do this thing that you are describing. He tests the cameras on the field. The overall package came above A7III. That's his opinion. First place A9, then X-T3 and third A7III. Check it out. Of course there is no face/eye detection better than Sony A7III and A9. I am talking about Eos r not 1dxmk3.
Just small correction ... Canon EOS was introduced in 1987 and all lenses from 1987 till today are compatible with EOS RP which makes it 34 years not 20 years. I personally own one from 1991 and it works just like any lens made for Canon.
Hey, Andrew. The one comment that surprised me was that the RP had superior AF. I'm not disagreeing with you. I've never picked up an RP. There are many different aspects to AF leaving me to wonder what exactly you mean by that. My impression has always been that Canon's DPAF is amazing in its accuracy and particularly good with video but not competitive with Sony or Fuji in terms of acquisition speed. I've also understood that Fuji's eye-AF (you speak of face-AF) is generally better than Canon's. And my X-T3 tracks players in my son's high school basketball games pretty well. It's no A9 but serviceable-at least as good as my old 5D3. Has Canon's mirrorless AF passed Fuji while I wasn't looking?
I have to admit that I'm going a bit off general consensus here and less of direct observation. The RP had really awful AF, all across the board, until the recent firmware update. But it's complicated to test AF scientifically and many reviewers make the mistake of thinking a quick run on front of their camera test is sufficient. But I'd say most people in the reviewing community overall tend to rate Canon as superior to Fuji for eye/face continuous tracking.
Denae & Andrew Interesting. I wondered if the firmware updates the Canon bodies have been getting were actually making a difference. Glad to read that they are. Thanks!
Hey, sorry to point this out, but I think you got the battery figures for the cameras the wrong way around...[according to DPR review the battery life for the xt3 is 390 shots whilst the battery life for the canon is 250(according to tech radar)].
Shadow recovery: In my experience, canon has ALWAYS had terrible shadow recovery. The banding was pretty awful and ruined a handful of shots. With Fuji, the noise more closely resembles film grain so you can still get usable shots if they're underexposed
Lens weight: I absolutely do not miss lugging heavy EF lenses up to the top of mountains. I can now literally fit fuji lenses in my pocket.
Aesthetics: I once heard you say "Never discount the way a camera makes you feel" and I subscribe to that philosophy. I feel a camera is more than just a tool. It's an extension of me. Plus at the price point, why not have it look nice? But more importantly, I don't think the manual controls are strictly about the aesthetics. I feel like they just simplify your workflow not having to click in and out of menus to change the aperture, shutter speed, etc.. Everything is right there in front of me instead of hiding in a menu
My Fuji 56mm f1.2 can render some incredibly thin depth of field. It's got bokeh for days as well. Definitely more than I need. In my experience the difference in bokeh/DOF is just not important. I just love the overall user experience of Fuji cameras. They just work how I always wanted a camera to work.
56 1.2 is 85 1.8 in fullframe.. 85 is much cheaper and renders as good as the fuji..
@@davidmskiba I find fuji lenses expensive. Im already in the canon system and the rp is pretty much $1000 now more of an xt30 price. Also i think RF lenses stomp fuji lenses easily.
@@kingsamvisuals compared even to sigma art the fujis are crap. 56 1.2? Numbers dont count that way on apsc. Try the 85 1.4 sigma art. Similar price but way better
Does canon shoot video in full frame?
Canon EOS RP video specs leaked, shoots 1.6x crop 4K 8bit but NO C-LOG
Open your eyes
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Revelatory IQ comparison beginning around the 4:00 minute mark - bravo!
**Couple point of clarification** I mentioned the X-T3 can shoot up to 20 FPS bursts. But that's on the electronic shutter, and in the example, I was shooting in the 11 FPS mechanically. I just wanted to make sure I didn't confuse anyone. Also, I mentioned the RP loses dual pixel auto in video, but that's only in 4k.
When you shoot 20 fps the megapixels reduce dont they? 🤔
@@SergioCuen thats in the 30fps cropped mode
My dude, petapixel blog took your last video. Idk if you gave then permission, they posted your video, but I thought it was kind of sneaky to hijack your content.
Don't worry. They reached out and got my permission first and I shared those photos with them.
Also. Canon RP has 24fps video mode on 1080p after the firmware update
I have only considered Fuji vs Canon in choosing my first camera. I went with the RP because of autofocus and I got the RP cheaper here in Canada ($1,200 body) than the XT3 (1,700 body). Plus my sister gave me her EF 50mm f1.4 so no brainer for me
The Fujifilm X-T3 was one of the best pickups and additions to my gear for my photography business. Plus it's video shooting capabilities are teaching me more and more as I go along. The best part; being a photographer for the better 27 years, majority of it in film photography in my earlier years. So the film simulation is an amazing blend of old school nostalgia with new tech.
Canon has confirmed in an interview with Imaging Resource that the EOS RP is weather sealed to the level of the 6D Mark II
Really?!?
Great comparison review Andrew!! Ive always had the "ITCH" of buying a full frame mirrorless camera in addition to my fuji system but after watching your excellent review i think ill invest in a new fuji camera body instead!
Keep up your excellent review's!! O love watching them here in th UK.
Hey Andrew, thanks a lot for the video. For comparing low light performance, perhaps a good indicator is shooting at identical shutter speed and aperture and then comparing the noise and shadow recovery. That would make it a more real life test than forcing both of them to underexpose, since the full frame might not have the same necessity to do that.
I got the RP because of the used lens market, bokeh, and existing lenses/flash. Wished it had the frame rate of Fuji and dual cards though. The new firmware made the focus even better.
fractal_force Canon EOS RP video specs leaked, shoots 1.6x crop 4K 8bit but NO C-LOG
What diff between canon 1.6 crop and Fuji 1.5 crop in bokeh?
@@alexosiichuk9603 I think you mean R5.
with an adapter u can use canon glass on fuji too as well ;)
@@dhoogduin but no where near the reliability of the dual pixel AF. I sold the XT3 and all the lenses + fringer after trying out the RP with EF adapter. Im doing some paid work and the end product of the production is the same.
Loved the review, I'm looking at exactly these two cameras and think I'm also going the XT3! even now in 2020 :D Thanks for the review!
I'm about to jump in.... what did you do?
@@averageguy1261 went with the XT3 and could not be happier
Both cameras are currently going for $999 us on amazon. I think either way you're getting amazing value. Sensor size wasn't a huge concern for me considering my 50mm 1.8 on my canon rebel body was plenty shallow in terms of DOF, so I went with the X-T3 + the Fringer canon ef adapter. The adapter so far has given me the same AF speed as when I used my canon lenses on the 200d natively, even though that camera had Dual Pixel AF just like this RP. I've been super happy with it so far and I can't wait to start doing more shoots with it in the future. Thanks for the awesome comparison! Remember y'all, no matter the sensor size, choose the camera that YOU will enjoy using :)
I use the xt3 and eos r primarily, both are amazing cameras
Great info about the low lighting recoverability between both cameras! I didn’t know that. Great vid. Xt3 FTW. I still love the canon colors and look. However, I haven’t touched my canon gear since I got my xt3 last year.
2 years later, still letting that Canon gear collect dust?
@@sl2608 - I sold off ALL of my Canon gear and used the money to purchase tons of Fuji gear. My trade in costs just about covered ALL my Fuji gear. Looking back on it, I think the real discussion isn't about which camera system is "better," to me, it's about which system best suits my needs. I am fond of my Canon days for sure! But Fuji better fits my needs today.
Sold the XT3 and went back to Canon with the RP. The autofocus is just so much more reliable on the RP in video than the XT3. Sure manual focus is an option, but I want it just to work. And sure, in som cases the DR was better in the XT3, but being able to recover in that way is not going to happen in real world shooting. If im shooting a scene with extreme DR I would have double exposed the image on both the Fuji or the Canon. One real flaw is that Lightroom never ever handles the file of the XT3 as good as Canon files, theres always that wormy stressy look to it. But the main thing is, Canon glass is really good and especially the new RF lenses which in my opinion, hands down, blows the Fuji out of the water. But I do sometimes miss the ability to strip down the Fuji without grip, smack on the 27mm pancake (which is a really underated lens) and have the ability to put it in the pocket of my winter jacket. The RP does not fit ;)
I went the opposite way. You have to learn how to process in lightroom or use capture. focus isn't quite as good but my my xt2 even blew the RP out of the water for just about everything else. Fuji glass is better than most canon except the L line.
Yup, also when shooting at wide Angles ... the Fuji stills look like an iPhone. The canon stills look like a professional canera. Any size sensor can look good for a telephoto portrait ... wide angle subject separation is where a larger sensor separates itself ...
I think this is just a fanboy. Saying he's using the RP (budget) but uses the RF glass (very expensive ones). Nice story bro.... I'd believe you if you said you changed to the R, not the RP. LMAO. Nice try tho right?
@@christrianrodriguez2055 you may think what you want. I'm so much fanboy that I now use Sony ;) And even with that brand where there's plenty of fanboys I'm not one of them :).
And BTW reading your comments from your profile says a whole lot more about fanboyism ;)
@@bjure8111 well that didn't age well. LMAO, after all that praise you ditch that system.
Have been waiting for a long time! Thanks for this video!)
Sold the XT3 for RP, back to a professional & reliable grade camera system, cheers^^
Great video. Apples and oranges here though. Pro APS-C v entry level FF. Different users. Both are great systems with benefits for different users. If you have Fuji XT-3 then why change pro features for entry level. Price here is maybe not the best reason to match up both cameras if you are deciding on a system and need / want pro features or non pro features. I think Canon shooters are now thankful that they can upgrade to FF and stay with the system they know and have lenses for or cheap second hand lens options (50mm F1.8). Fuji shooters can stay happy with their choice of great gear XT-3. Both produce great results. BTW let's hope you don't under expose too often. ;) Again great video.
I'm a Sony shooter but If I had to choose between these then it would be the Fuji every time.
Nobody's perfect 😂
@@justinholding02 😂
I love Fuji
Scott Williams Photography why would that be?
I've saved thousands of pounds with Canon - I bought the 5D Mark III around 6 years ago and the lack of Canon innovation has meant I haven't felt the need to upgrade bodies since then :D) (I'm a hobbyist though - each to their own).
Mat Colosus same here, I still use my 6D for that reason. I have ordered a Fuji xt-30. No longer interested in the way Canon looks out for the hobbyists. That cripple hammer just annoys me. 🧐
sexysilversurfer me too!.......... I got an xt30! Now I just need that 56mm F1.2
Im still shooting with my 5dmk2, Got it brand new back when Calumet was still in Business and Im finally looking at the Mk4 if there is no Mk5.
Had both, sold the Fuji. For the type of shooting that I do (mostly indoors), family documenting, the Canon gives me better, cleaner files at any iso. Saving up for that RF 50mm 1.2
About buying cheap older EF lenses, that's what i'm doing now and I'm using them with a Fringer EF-FX Pro II adapter on my X-T3. A bit expensive, but works great!
Nice comparison. I own both cameras, however the RP touch-focus with the latest firmware slaughters the X-T3. It’s also faster and more accurate in low light.
Yes. Though I'm hoping the -6EV improvements to the Xpro3 will be brought to the xt3
@@AndrewGoodCamera -6EV autofocus is a new hardware feature, not something Fuji can introduce with a firmware update. I don't think it's coming to the X-T3.
Stan Leeger Do you have a reference to that? From everything I’ve read the X-Pro3 has the exact same sensor as the X-T3.
Yeah on paper the xt3 seem like the best ever ... and they are fine for lots of uses. When you use your canera every day the canon proves it’s design like bmw or apple ... it just works
@@stanleeger4711 was there a change ?
My first real camera was the Canon M50, which I loved but unfortunately it was stolen about a year after having it… so I decided to give Fujifilm a try. I have had my Fuji for over a year now and on Black Friday pulled the trigger on Canon refurb RP for only $599…
Fuji Pros
1. Beautiful JPEG simulations
2. Store custom JPEG settings
3. Smaller bodies and lenses (in some cases, the RP and 50mm is just as small).
4. In the case of X-S10, great slow motion and video options.
5. Lenses are cheaper than Canon, however my RF 50mm was $80 Canon refurb, and my 35mm 1.8 was only $299 canon refurb, cheaper than most Fuji lenses
6. Overall a cooler looking camera. Makes you want to pick it up.
7. Metal lenses and marked aperture rings.
Canon Pros
1. The autofocus system besides being more reliable, is overall just so much easier to use without needing to constantly switch modes or move a focus point around with a joystick - that was my biggest frustration with Fuji.
2. The Canon RPs viewfinder is much better than the X-S10, much more comfortable to use.
3. The Canon remote app works so much better, and is actually usable for self portrait or group shots.
4. RF glass is insanely crisp and detailed, the clarity is unreal.
5. Better ergonomics on Canon.
6. Full frame with all the pros involved.
7. Menu system is much easier to understand.
8. Better and more intuitive button layout.
9. Face/eye detect is much more reliable and accurate. With Fuji it was constantly finding faces in bushes and rocks, or not quite getting focus even when it said it was in focus.
I feel like overall it feels like Canon produces a tool that is extremely good at what it does, while the Fuji takes a different route and puts more “soul” into their cameras. I do find it funny to consider Canon has been making cameras for nearly 100 years and used to make Fuji “looking” cameras back in the day. Canon has a very long and cool history. I thought I’d want to sell my Fuji immediately after switching but think I want to hold onto both… they’re just fun for different reasons.
Hope this helps!
Lol! I own both, too. Couldn't decide, and with a little patience, I got great deals on both. Was concerned I was falling victim to Gear Acquisition Syndrome. Glad I'm not the only one. Happy shooting!
First I applaud you for this type of comparison! A Canon FF vs. a Fuji APS-C...wow. I am a Fuji X-T3 user who came from Nikon FF (D810)., and will just say, I do not miss ANYTHING about the D810! (Fantastic camera, a real Nikon jewel). In regards to depth of field, I have to say that Fuji 16mm f1.4 and the 56mm f1.2 are the FF depth of field myth buster! That's the Equiv. of an FF f2.1 and f1.8 which most agree are pretty darn fast and can provide a depth of field and bokeh acceptable to any FF user, after all,is said, it won't be the camera...it'll be the photographer. There are cameras suited for whatever kind of shooter you are, so I would suggest individual research into what would suit your needs. Fuji suits my needs. To those who have the Canon, you have a fantastic camera if it suits your needs.
XT3 was my favourite camera to use, hold etc but i switched to RP and i'm just so much more satisfied with the images. I know Fujifilm thinks apsc and medium format are the sweet spots but when i see small full frame cameras with f1.8 lenses i can't help but think that's the best compromise of size and quality
I also did the switch from XT3 to RP and couldn't be happier. The market of used EF lenses are huge and works so much better on the RP than on Fuji + fringer.
@@bjure8111 How was your experience overall with Fringer on fuji with ef glass. Is it doable?
I have been searching for a good comparison between these two cameras for so long!! Thank you!
Nice video 👍. And a nice job explaining the not so big difference between APS-C and full frame.
I think a lot of people exaggerate the difference.
In the shallow depth of field comparison, which lenses were used on each camera and what was the f/stop on each lens set at? Important to know, makes a difference.
Very interesting and fair comparison. As a photographer I find the flip out screen useful for architecture when shooting at odd angles but, to my mind, that would be the only real life advantage of Canon RP. It seems that here, even the dynamic range is better on the newer apsc sensor. Canon should really invest in some newer solutions in that area. As a Canon user I am constantly tempted by other brands now because of that.
Great video! Thanks for the info. Canon just announced that the RP (among other 2019 camera models) is going to get the 24fps via a firmware update this month.
Excellent video. Love your presenting
The dept of field at 6:10 was blatantly obvious (right was RP). But probably not for someone who doesnt do photography. But sometimes too much blur can be worse, because people usually care more about whats in focus.
it is quiet an interesting comparison, for X-T3 everything tick the boxes, but an APSC sensro, and in the other hand RP has the basic functions, nothing more, with a FF sensor. Your video showed perfect example for breaking the FF myth that general consumers have (or general lies from marketing).
The fugi sort of reminds me of my 1st Minolta SLR which I got in 1968. Loved it!!!
Great comparison video! Love all the detailed content.
OMG! Thank you so much for this review! I have the X-T3, and I am planning to buy RP for other purposes.
For the bang for the buck, I'll choose the xt3. Canon just kept on crippling their cameras
FWIW... X-T3 just went on sale... you can get it with the legendary 56 1.2 for $1999 right now. Just sayin...
TJ Krueger where?
Unfortunately it's worth very little as it seemed to be just US-based retailers. Here's hoping Fuji Australia follow suit soon!
@@RodrigoAReyes95 currently on B&H, if you select body only, then select build bundle, you can add the 56mm for a total of $1798... might be a glitch. But adorama also has the option for $1999
that 56mm 1.2 is can be achieved easly on 85mm 1.8 with much blurry background,.
thank you for your video. i know both cameras pretty well.. without a doubt you can brighten up the shadows on the fuji better, but what should not be forgotten is the smaller reserve for the highlights on the fuji. i almost always took pictures with -2/3 f-stops or even more on my fuji to be a bit more confident with the highlights, which is uncomfortable because all photos are a bit dark before postprocessing.
with the rp you have more reserve for the highlights and therefore you have to brighten less.
you have to work with the characteristics of the camera.
i like the handling and the menu navigation much better on the rp than on the fujis, but it is also just my backup camera to the r5, as my only camera i would probably use something else.
As an ex canon wedding shooter and a now FujiFilm X travel shooter. I would take the FujiFilm XT3 all day long. That is because that is the best tool for the job / situations that I shoot right now. An interesting thing I found out on Friday at a Wex (was calumet) open day here in the UK. was that I compared a GFX R to the Canon Eos R RAW files which I shot with. In my opinion the Canon files were significantly much cleaner than the GFX R files.
Also Looking back to my last canon cameras files (5d Mark iii).Comparing to my XT3. Again the Canon files were a lot cleaner. However the weight factor alone puts me off going back to canon. I shot the 28-70 F2.0 and the 85 F1.2 on Friday on the eosr and the images were absolutely stunning.
So to sum this up....
The Canon’s image Quality is better than the FujiFilm.
FujiFilm has a lighter package with better AF. FujiFilm is also the camera you don’t mind taking with you everywhere you go.
And that is why I would take the FujiFilm out of the 2.
I have the Eos R and like u mentioned the weight of the lenses becomes an issue when travelling so I’ve been looking for a more light weight setup so maybe the XT-3 is a good fit. You mentioned the canon images are cleaner, how noticeable is this ?
A good and balanced video. I just sold my XT-3 for an EOS-R (but would have done the same for an RP if the R was not an option).
As you rightly point out, it's hard to compare these two cameras (systems really). I find the Fuji X experience to be more involved and fun, and it's a smaller and lighter kit when accounting for lenses. These were the two most important factors that initially sold me the XT-3.
I purchased the X-T3 primarily for casual and family events -- it's less intimidating and stealthy than a larger FF system w/ the big fast glass, and the uninformed family member thinks nothing of it unlike bringing a more serious *looking* professional camera. For example, I don't get any questions about my gear w/ the X-T3, which is nice. The problem is that such events often rely on natural and suboptimal lighting, and the autofocusing system on the XT3 leaves a lot to be desired in such environments (my opinion, of course). This was one of the factors that led me question if the XT3 is right for me. Small form factor, low weight, fun-to-use, and stealthy are what sold me on the system but what matters most is how many keepers I have when the party's over. I get better results with other systems. YMMV.
For anyone considering buying into the X system, my advice is to give careful thought to if this is a system you see yourself staying with long-term. The lenses, while small in size, are not small in price. The native Canon RF glass is even more expensive, but there are lots of affordable EF options out there (used and new), and Sigma is expected to announce RF mount support in early 2020. In general, ecosystem support for Canon is much better than Fuji (and just about any other OEM for that matter). One should also give consideration to resale value. I've sold Fuji and Canikon gear online, and there is no doubt that Canikon gear is more sellable and returns a higher percentage. In fact, I offloaded my latest batch of Fuji lenses to KEH because they weren't selling, whereas my native Nikon gear sold almost instantly (so much so, that I regretted no pricing higher, which started out as a higher percentage of new than what I was asking for my Fuji lenses). So, again, if you're an experienced shooter, have tried lots of different systems, and are sure that Fuji is right for you today and in the long run, then more power to you. None of what I just said here matters.
As for the Canon R/RP, it's a v1 stopgap offering being compared to a v3 product (XT-3). For my use case, the Canon simply focuses much better. I also find the Canon more ergonomic and efficient to use, although not as fun as the Fuji (very much in line with assessment provide here). Canon is bringing it with there RF glass and I anticipate we're going to see some exciting bodies to match the glass in 2020, and they will have certainly got it right by v3. Sony / Fuji got the jump on Canon w/ mirrorless, but Canon has awoken and will give a good fight, and likely reclaim their dominance.
Fujifilm x-t3 4k 60 fps - Canon r / rp 4k 30 fps by by canon hello fujifilm
your right,. canon will go for a big one,. that RF glasses show that there are really really serious about R System,. when canon release body with IBIS + RF LENSE IS + DIGITAL STABILIZATION, that will be a big comeback to canon,. ill be shooting all my shoot by hand held,..
Thanks for the detailed comment. I own a RP with a few pieces of. Ice class but for some reason have been flirting with the Fuji world but fast autofocus is paramount. Maybe I should just save up and go for the R6 or R5
Most people only focus on the shallow dof but neglect that apsc let in the same light but more focus at the same aperture.
It’s simple actually. If you’re a Fuji lover, go with X-T3. If you’re a long term / old-school Canon loyalist, EOS RP will satisfy you.
Last week i shot a concert in low light with my trusty xt2, after 900 shots i had to change my first battery...just saying... it depends how you use your gear and how it drains your battery...
I'm convinced X-T3 is the better camera of the two. And also convinced a photographer who knows what they are doing can produce pro results with either of these. And no, one card slot will not stop me using the RP :) In my country 6D was one of the most popular models among pros for years. This RP is pretty much it, but mirrorless.
its better to invest in canon, rather than fuji,. that RF lenses is a game changer, when the time canon release a pro body with IBIS + RF IS + DIGITAL IS, that will be insane,.
really great detailed comparing these two great sturdy bodied cameras! a great way to spend 20 mins
I have both and love them both! Two different cameras for two different purpose! 😍
Which one do you prefer for family portrait? I have an XT2, love it but I don't like for the skin tone
Im so grateful for this channel!
RP is good camera for starting to buid-up your RF lenses,. then you can upgrade to higher pro camera like r3, r5,.
while in fuji your already in deadend with no more improvements in camera system,.
XT3 hands down! Heck even better than the R
Dan C 👌👍
I had no doubt, got they both...
I think the sensor of the x-t3 is better isn't it (dynamic range etc) + video capabilities are much higher. I feel like x-t3 and now 4 are higher end aps-c cameras whereas the Rp is an entry level full frame( it might be better Than the x-t3 in low light a bit but that's it) isn't it?
I have both and love them. With Fuji, I get tank build quality and sharpness galore. With Canon, I get access to 30+ years of great lenses, FF depth, and light weight coupled with ease of use. Both take incredible photos if you have the skill to use them.
I use them both along with my Sony gear.
Canon RP
24-105 4f + 35rf 1.8
FUJIFILM XT 3 18-55 2.8
+ 16 2.8 mm
Camera I need for fashion , club , concert photos . In order to keep the ISO high , there was a good dynamic range . Photos that would be sharp. And the video recorded perfectly . Which of the two options will you choose ?
1000+ shots per battery XT3 week in week out. What are folks doing to get under 300?
Exactly what I was wondering. I got 700 the other day in Boost mode.... lol.
same here, i get around 700shots - but! I'm working only on my EVF + swicthed on only while looking.
@6:00 yay, a great way to put it. That's a lot of extra money and weight over the whole system (lenses) IF you aren't someone who shoots wide open all the time.
Beautifully done..thanks for pulling me away from Full frame craze
Thank you ❤
The full frame sensor is not 1,5 times bigger than APS-C. It is 1,5 times both ways, that means it is more than 2 times bigger.
Thanks
I won’t be able to afford a new camera for some time anyway, and I have neither of these cameras. But I do have a Canon 80D and Fuji X-T20, I consider them very different cameras for different uses. I got the X-T20 as an affordable entry into the mirrorless world, and all my research led me to Fuji being the best option after Canon’s then-new EOS M5 disappointed by being too expensive, and just as importantly, the lens lineup was a disappointment, plasticky and slow consumer lenses, and considering how long their M line has been around, a paltry selection. For my use, I like using the Fuji for walkabout photography with a selection of primes plus the kit 18-55mm, it comes across as less intimidating, can be completely quiet and stealthy, and doesn’t look Pro, it doesn’t attract as muc attention. However, for assignments as a photographer with my big heavy 70-200mm, or Sigma 18-35mm, I use my Canon as it is weighted better for large lenses, has the had grip to support them, and is much faster to work with, with focus etc, has much longer battery life, and is reliable and dependable, whereas the Fuji X-T20 sometimes plays up, something in firmware, and the focusing of a lot of their lenses is much slower than on Canon. It is a dependable work-horse, whereas the Fuji is my for-fun walk around camera, small and light, more useful with manual lenses like Samyang or Laowa ultra wides and fisheye, which I like using, or even vintage lenses. Experimenting with Astro, I’ve ended up using the Fuji, just because of the wide lenses I have for it, and I like using it, even though it is easier to work with the Canon in the dark, and the greater battery is useful with long exposures through the night. As for the shadow recovery, that was one of the things that convinced me to try Fuji, whereas the amount of noise at high /ISO is about the same, the Fuji noise looks like film with no chromatic noise, and no banding, whereas Canon is not ISO invariant, and the colour noise when pushed looks bad.
I basically like both for different purposes, and I am not overawed by the manual knobs of the Fuji versus the more modern controls of the Canon, which gives you great ergonomics and one-handed control of things like Aperture or shutter speed, and more besides.
Two things I really like about the Fuji is the easy transfer of images with the wifi keyed to the top recessed button, which makes it quick and practical to share a photo to my phone, which I ended up not bothering with on the Canon, as it was more fiddle, and I often had issues with. Another thing, very useful in the Australian summer, is the auto-dynamic range; having experimented with it, I know it applies to the Raw file, and works very well, preserving sky highlights even with the subject in shadow, which is a great thing, removing my need to experiment with HDR and all the issues of things moving between frames, let along the hassle of making them. The Highlight and Shadow sliders in Capture One does the rest. I now always use Auto ISO with Auto-DR, as I find it only engages when I actually need it. Canon has their own feature, but you have to dig into the menu every time to enable and disable it, and I haven’t tested it to the same extent, if it applies to Raw, and how well it works in comparison to Fuji’s implementation.
Jeez..What else is going on in your life?
You lost me at “I won’t “.
Thank you for this video. Quick question. On the xt3 do you have your continuous on release or focus? Thanks!!
I've owned both. One thing that immediately stands out on RP at least to me is comfortable grip. Fuji XT line just does not have a pronounced grip, and the extra grip which I always get, only covers half of the area. RP grip is just so much more comfortable. Love articulating display. Love the 35 1.8 RF lens, so small and 1:2 Macro. Phenomenal Jpegs out of RP. But that's pretty much it. ADOBE does not support native camera profiles for Canon RP, and adobe profiles for RP are god-awful. Autofocus was not good (I sold my RP before the latest 1.3 Firmware, which, I hear fixes things).
Yes. The AF was awful and I'm really glad I was delayed in this review and was able to get that update before publishing that
What extra grip?
With Fuji, there seems to be more of an eco-system of less expensive manual focus lens to play with (ie: buy, then play with). I suppose many are available for Canon, but when I owned Canon, I was never aware of the possibility. Of course, I owned Canon DSLR, not mirrorless, and so no focus peaking. So... hey... this is why I don't no my own comparison videos! Oh, and I own the X-T30. Slightly slower than the X-T3 at full frame rate, I believe, not WR, one card slot, differences in high end video that can be recorded in the camera, and smaller. But, a good bit cheaper. Same sensor, and processor. And the FX18-55mm f2.8-4 R OIS kit lens is actually pretty nice for a kit lens. This was particularly important to me as I was changing lines altogether and so needed to replace all lens. Well, I didn't want to deal with an EOS adapter at any rate. And for depth of field, I have my KamLan 50mm f1.1 :-)
The Canon system will make sense only if you want to put your hand deep in your pocket and buy the superior - yet - expensive RF L glass (or have plenty of EF slr lenses) .Like RF 16-35 f2.8 , 24-70 f2.8 ,70-200 f 2.8, 50 f1.2 L, 85 f1.2 or fast 1.8/2.0 zooms that will probably announced in the future.I don't think there's any better FF glass out there at that price range. My 2 cents as a Fuji user...
I just got the R but so tempted to get the Fuji just for the lightweight and the Fuji look.
Apart from the price and pixel count, these two bodies can not be more different from each other, it's the choice you'd have to make between the best APS-C and not the best full frame, that said if I'm choosing, I'd probably skip image quality comparisons and go straight into features and lenses.
Agreed
“I’m not going to get in to it here..” please get into it, your very educational and charismatic. What happens if you do this video with a speed booster on the Fuji? As the RP can’t?
Sorry, it's been awhile since I made this video. Get into what?
Andrew & Denae Pixel density, back side illuminated, ISO invariant, etc, you had this catch phrase on more occasions also, I’m a new film school student, military retiring and passion project. I’ve been leaning towards the x-T3 and a speed booster as I love vintage lenses.
i had the xt2 and noticed the same thing about the shadows. it's easy to recover. still torn between xt3 and a7iii hahaha...
I may have missed it (sorry if I did...), but how about image stabilization? I'm a great fan of IBIS - do these cameras get any close to the systems that feature such a solution?
Neither has IBIS. The RP has electronic.image stabilization, but it's not great
In the end the lens is to me the most important tool in order to create a picture. Maybe the IBIS is one of the best arguments for this Canon System itself. The rest of this comparison is really determined by the lenses you can get even though I´ve decided for the xt-3 which makes me pretty unhappy from time to time due to this small range of lenses with that certain "je ne sais quoi " look. As a camera itself the fuji really is as professional as a Camera at this price point can be.
The best and most likeable camera reviewer ive seen yet. Subbed.
The "Full Frame look", is not a matter of DOF. At least not only that. I am not sure what it is, but if I had to say something, it would be "color depth" and gradation.
I saw a big difference in quality, when I returned the X-T2 (within a month) and purchased 5D mark III.
And my EOS R is even better.
Thx for the comparisons. When shooting wedding and family with your xt3 what af settings are you using? Would love to hear some Tipps :)
Thanks for the review. I'd like to mention that most all vloggers when comparing gear have a bit of bias on using cameras for vlogging (IMO). Most viewers on the other hand are photographers and rarely use the video functions built into their camera (although that is probably changing). I think this tendency of vloggers reviewing gear (who else would be doing it anyway) is having an affect on manufacturers paying more attention on the video aspects and not quite as much on still photography. Still, most all new cameras today far exceed anything that was available even two years ago. And like the move from film to digital and then (D)SLR to Mirrorless the paradigm is always on the move. Two years ago not one of my fellow 150+ photography club members used video, now it is about 20%.
You're right of course. But as for myself, I do a lot of event and documentary work also and, thus, am a hybrid shooter, RUclips aside.
xt3 is wonderful... for showing it to your friends.. you can never go wrong with fullframe. the details are much better. i sold my xt3 and xh1 to go back to canons 5d4
I am a Nikon lover but for my second body I just bought Canon 5DIV with a 300 f/2.8L IIS USM, a 24-70 f/2.8L IS USM and a 100 f/2.8 L IS USM. I was very much tempted to add fuji instead but these canon colour won my heart. My Takumar lenses will have to pair with Nikon now. I liked your comment. Very soon I will enjoy shooting in beautiful Stuttgart
Thanks for this video. You help me to decide corretly. I was wrong thinking that RP is a better machine to shoot in low light. But I love sensors with good Dynamic Range and your test is on the most clarity level.
Denifinitely X-T3 is the BEST OPTION. Is a Pro level camera. RP is more for enthusiast and people to want to do the basics with FF format.
Fuji X-T3 FTW!
Great comparison. As far as photography what are your thoughts about Canon EOS R versus Fuji XT3?
Amazing video bro!
Thanks for the comparison. I am interested since the xt30 has the same sensor than the xt3 but much cheaper.
not just the sensor, the image processing is the same.
Weird, i get around 650 images out of my XE3, but i am very spartan when it comes to handling and use.
Yeah I have an xt2/3 and xh1 and I always get 600-800 images when I visit my niece & nephew and still have battery left.
Depends on a lens. In my experience it's about 500 with a 23/2, 350 with 90/2. Surprisingly, manual lenses are somehow closer to the latter. Maybe that's because they require more "screen time" for focusing. X-E3.
Thank you very much, great video as usual! :) I have one question with respect to the topic of FF vs APSC:
People tend to focus on low ISO, DR, DOF, but what I am wondering, especially when shooting portraits, is how much does lens compression affect the shot? I feel that is really where the big difference in looks come from. E.g., I think there was a stark difference in looks between the two shots you showed, not that I think either was bad, but I felt the difference was less in the DOF and more in the way his face was projected. Is that something you guys could make a video about?
great review . . Thanks Sire !!
Xt-3 right now on sale for 1199.
With the firmware update on the RP, can you tell which among the two has better lowlight AF in terms of speed and accuracy? Thank you.
Just what i needed!!
Since you have both, is it true that the XT2 has better looking low light image files than the XT3? I thought I saw a video where they were saying the back side illuminator sacrificed high ISO. Just curious.
I see no real difference, personally. But I haven't given it an in depth study.
I have both! Great review, mate! 👍
Hi , for you what is better .thanks u
@@ngocthanhpham156, both are great cameras but, I love the Canon colors much better.
From an rp owner. Please dont get the rp, only if you like to be disappointed, or dont have any expectations from your camera video and even photo specs and usability, basically everything!
I hope to sell it and go on the fuji train with xt3
Andrew, there are a few factual mistakes in the video: The FF sensor is ~2.3 times bigger than APS-C, the EOS system is 32 years old, and the Fuji can shoot 390 photos per CIPA ratings.
parshua Also, the EOS RP is indeed weather sealed.
Comparing a full frame sensor to an APS-C it's probably worth mention that a bigger sensor will give you a better quality wide angle.
As to bokeh and noise there is quite insignificant difference in real life. But the weight of FF lenses is quite significant usually.
No there is no perceptible image quality improvement in the RP vs X-t3 sensor. Full frame does not magically equal better image quality (sometimes, yes, but not in this case).
@@AndrewGoodCamera In most cases - yes. But if you shoot especially indoor or other quite tight spaces and you need a wide angle - a bigger format you have the more natural perspective you can get. As an example - Gregory Crewdson.
Canon EOS RP video specs, shoots 1.6x crop 4K 8bit but NO C-LOG
What diff between canon 1.6 crop and Fuji 1.5 crop in bokeh?
@@alexosiichuk9603 As for me I haven't tried RP on video. I don't think there's any significant difference in bokeh (surely comparing on same apertures). The bigger problem in my opinion in 1.6 4k crop that you might need ultra wide lenses - 20mm FF will be just 32mm wide when shooting 4K..
It seems all fuji users on youtube are gathered here 😀.
As a well built machinery I'd pick the fuji, as a daily camera, or a pro work camera I'd pick the canon any day, the convenient work flow, great IQ, low light performance , autofocus, the ability to take more separated images are far better.
Fuji sits there in an odd place, for an artsy camera I'd go with Hasselblad or if I could afford it a leica, not fuji.
Cant go wrong with either in the modern camera world.
story is different if you invest to a camera system... Fuji camera/lens is good if you can buy them origin from Japan factory, however it's impossible. You pay for a second grade product with Fuji!!!
Can you explain why you say face detection and tracking of the canon is better than the xt3?
Common knowledge. I'm not sourcing any specific study. Canon has mastered face detect auto and I don't know anyone who says otherwise.
@@AndrewGoodCamerabut have you tested Fuji's face and eye detection, plus AF tracking? Check Northrup test 10 cameras round up. It out performed the A7III.
Face / eye detection tests where people pop into and out of frame are wildly inaccurate and extremely far from scientific (see Gerald Undone's thoughts on this, which I agree with). Aside from an extremely involved scientific test, which no RUclipsr is capable, or at least has not undertaken, the best we can do is go off of industry reported patterns. This is the first I've heard of anyone claiming Fuji's Face/Eye is more accurate than Sony or Canon's, other than the random commenter who wants to be right about their decision to purchase Fuji. To be clear, I wish Fuji was better. I've invested thousands into Fuji. But as an ex portrait photographer who used Fuji and Canon, I recognize that Fuji has a ways to go yet.
I haven't got any Fuji gear. Got a 6D. Northrop does not do this thing that you are describing. He tests the cameras on the field. The overall package came above A7III. That's his opinion. First place A9, then X-T3 and third A7III. Check it out. Of course there is no face/eye detection better than Sony A7III and A9. I am talking about Eos r not 1dxmk3.
Just small correction ... Canon EOS was introduced in 1987 and all lenses from 1987 till today are compatible with EOS RP which makes it 34 years not 20 years. I personally own one from 1991 and it works just like any lens made for Canon.
Truly a bummer about the dynamic range but it just means I have to be more careful. Check out my EOS RP review and let me know what you think!
Hey, Andrew. The one comment that surprised me was that the RP had superior AF. I'm not disagreeing with you. I've never picked up an RP. There are many different aspects to AF leaving me to wonder what exactly you mean by that. My impression has always been that Canon's DPAF is amazing in its accuracy and particularly good with video but not competitive with Sony or Fuji in terms of acquisition speed. I've also understood that Fuji's eye-AF (you speak of face-AF) is generally better than Canon's. And my X-T3 tracks players in my son's high school basketball games pretty well. It's no A9 but serviceable-at least as good as my old 5D3. Has Canon's mirrorless AF passed Fuji while I wasn't looking?
I have to admit that I'm going a bit off general consensus here and less of direct observation. The RP had really awful AF, all across the board, until the recent firmware update. But it's complicated to test AF scientifically and many reviewers make the mistake of thinking a quick run on front of their camera test is sufficient. But I'd say most people in the reviewing community overall tend to rate Canon as superior to Fuji for eye/face continuous tracking.
Denae & Andrew Interesting. I wondered if the firmware updates the Canon bodies have been getting were actually making a difference. Glad to read that they are. Thanks!
You just prevented me to push the "buy" buttom with the Canon. I am getting a Fuji!
Hey, sorry to point this out, but I think you got the battery figures for the cameras the wrong way around...[according to DPR review the battery life for the xt3 is 390 shots whilst the battery life for the canon is 250(according to tech radar)].
Thanks Jeremy