What a time to be alive.10 years ago every monitor was glossy, and we wanted mat coatings. Now: first glossy gaming monitor. In few years we will have first gaming mouse with a ball :)
i always wondered why everybody wanted matte coating when i personally thought glossy looked best! it's great to see glossy making a comeback for gaming monitors!
@@HenryTownsmyth You're silly. 95% of the displays I've owned have been glossy and I've had no issues with any of them. I currently still own multiple plasmas, CRTs, an OLED and two LCD monitors and all of them are glossy. I modded the LCD monitors to be glossy and they look vastly better than they did with the matte coatings they came with. Suffice it to say, I really hate the look of matte screens. It robs so much of the color, contrast, pop and depth from the image.
I would never have thought about that if you didn't mentioned here. I think Mac screens are looking so good, because they are more glossy than others, despite being coated in some way. I also had a relatively old laptop lying around. Resolution was not fancy, but the screen was glossy and looked much better indoors than more modern laptops with a matte screen.
Matte coatings suck all the life out of a picture. Colors, contrast, black levels, 3-dimensionality, vibrancy and pop all suffer significantly. I wouldn't even own a gaming monitor if I couldn't mod them to have glossy screens. I won't buy any matte display.
I've been using the LG c1 oled since August. So I have some experience in both glossy and matte. If you have your setup where a window is facing the monitor, don't even bother getting glossy unless you get blackout curtains. The reflections is insanely noticeable. But if your setup has curtains or isn't near a window.... it is definitely 100% worth getting over matte. I've noticed that if you have a room only lit by ceiling lights, the matte actually looks worse because it spreads the lightness throughout the monitor.
To be fair, your LG tv isnt straight glossy. It has an anti-reflective coating. This gaming monitor seems to be legit straight glossy which will be 100x worse than your LG tv
Really want to get this but worried about lighting. Play mostly at night with curtains closed and one ceiling light not directly over pc setup. Anyone want to lend me one of these so I can test before I buy?
@@goblinphreak2132 If what you're saying is true then absolutely don't put it into a room with any window light, because my CX OLED forced me into blocking a 1 ft wide window because it was letting too much light in and causing a ridiculous glare from my sitting position...
@@ALmaN11223344 the room my pc is in not only has pulldown privacy shades but also thick lime green curtains. I wont have any issue with reflections lol
I love glossy panels! I game in a dark room with thick curtains, so reflections are never really a problem. All monitors don't have to be glossy, but they don't have to be all matte either. Give customers a choice! Besides, you can always put a matte screen protector over a glossy screen if you really want. Removing a matte coating is much more difficult.
I would choose glossy every time. I currently have a glossy panel that is nothing special but it makes colors and darks so much more prominent. I refused to buy a new monitor for years because we only had a choice of matte screens. BTW, thank you for showcasing the fact that having a matte screen doesn't mean you don't have to worry about reflections. In fact, it sometimes makes them worse (dispersing them like you showed). It's all preference but it would be nice if we actually had a bit of a choice to make. I worry that if they start adding anti reflective glossy coatings like they do on televisions the price of monitors will go up drastically (they're already ridiculous).
I’ve often wanted to remove my matte filter to see what the screen looks like glossy. It’s possible but it could never be returned to its original condition. I’m surprised no manufacturer has come up with a removable or optional matte filter at factory.
@@cyprian4869 dont do it i had done it last year Peos: Great Picture quality like 10 times better Cons: Headache idk if it is just me i get terrible headaches if i try to play on it so now its useless to me 2.scratches
I've had a glossy panel for 10 years, and the trick is to have a warm light source that that is at an angle where it won't be visible as a reflection on the glossy panel, but still able to uniformly shine its light across the entirety of the panel. For some reason it greatly increases vibrancy, contrast and gives you deeper blacks. Matte panels can't even compare, as long as you know how to set up your lighting conditions, which is why I'm waiting for some nice glossy options before upgrading. It's like comparing a high quality photograph, printed on glossy paper, to an aged, washed-out printout on plain paper.
eh, its been the opposite case with me. I would put on my curtains and get the room as dark as possible to game on my glossy monitor, and even then, even the slightest of light coming in would be enough to show my face on it during a dark scene. While the matt screen works well EVEN when I don't have my curtains on. And sure there is a difference in image quality but definitely nothing even close to how you describe it with High quality photograph against a washed-out printout. You're being biased
another advantage of glossy over matte is that to deal with reflections you can control the environment, turn off the lights, remove bright objects and more, with mate you are sort of stuck and it will always have a layer of anti glare hindering your experience.
@@alpacamale2909 And you don't have to completely darken your room (including painstakingly covering your windows for even a slither of gap) to enjoy a dark game/movie with a matt screen. If that ain't convenience, Idk what is
I am so happy that Eve stood up to the plate and gave us consumers what we wanted. I have been holding off upgrading my old ass desktop monitor because I love glossy displays and I despise matte antiglare.
I have won a glossy BenQ LED TN LCD in a tournament back in 2006, and I thought it was the single biggest improvement to an LCD screens ever. Gone was the bland look, everything was more vibrant, CLEAR, much more like on my CRT. Still, it was 75Hz so I sold it. In January 2022 I went on to build a new PC and decided to finally buy myself LCD as the main screen (been using Mitsubishi SB2070 all those years)... but there were none in the shops? So I just bought 144Hz AOC 24G2U, as it was a reasonable price to check 144Hz, if I'm ok with IPS, pixel density and fps vs size and resolution. I will say side by side on the strongest overdrive it is close to 100Hz on my Mitsubishi, but it is not even a competition when CRT is running on 120Hz or more (this one can go 160Hz depending on the resolution). Anyway glossy 240Hz 27 1440 IPS is probably what I would like next.
As far as I'm concerned, the more options for monitors out there the better. People will like this depending on their gaming environment. If you are in a small windowless room where you can easily control reflections, this is a great option. In the living room, not so much.
@@__vha The bigger issue is the eve monitor was supposed to release 3 years ago now and has been delayed for well... 3 years with excuses at every step. They still have only released 4k model and people are still waiting for it.
@NoNonsensePC My monitor just shipped and I only ordered in November, they are trying to get their shit on track and have only been hampered by crap in their operating regions through no fault of their own. Give them a break man, being a startup in the last couple of years is not a good time.
@@simonfitzgerald8490 wtf, I ordered the 1440p 240hz version in July last year, was meant to ship in October, delays up until January this year then I finally paid the rest of my order, was told it would ship end of January. I chased it in February and they said it would ship end of February, I chased a few days ago and was told it is now shipping in April!!! I just told them to forget it and refund me. Its a joke man, I'm definitely not giving them any breaks. Would avoid this company with a 100ft barge pole.
Even with direct bright light shining on it, glossy looks so much better. I can actually still see the image. I’m blinded by the smearing horrible mess of the matte panel. I hope my Alienware AW3423DW doesn’t look too bad with reflections.
I've had my AW3423DW for 3 days now. It's pretty glossy (like LG OLED's if you've used one). Not bad at all when displaying bright images, but with darker stuff you will want to control the lighting in your room (particularly behind you), a bit to get the best experience out of it. That said, it's the best gaming display on the market right now, bar none.
i'd love to see more glossy gaming monitors. picture quality just looks a lot better. insane that apple charges $300 extra for apple studio display and $1000 extra for XDR display to have matte displays on their already expensive monitors lol
@@saveEarth69 The new studio display isn't all too badly priced when you go spec by spec though tbh. Dolby Atmos speakers, a "high res" webcam, a 5k display, not too terrible for around $1,600. Only thing that's definitely "apple priced" is the damn arm that's optional lol
Yeah, but the problem is, most monitors are Matt. Most companies use Matt The only glossy you can find on. Most things are t vs that are mostly glossy.
Finally. I've been a fan of glossy for years, because the benefits usually far outweigh the drawbacks in an environment and lighting under the users control.
ICAN personally go either way with monitors being matte or glossy. Growing up using an occasional glossy lcd monitor in its infancy was easy imo to adjust to. Now using my LG CX Oled and a normal monitor depending on which gaming rig I’m using is fine to use either way. I have normal Venetian blinds and the glare is no problem nor distracting in any way on my Oled when gaming. I definitely agree that a glossy screen gives you a noticeably sharper image 🥰👍
My computer is connected to a LG CX (glossy) and my MacBook Pro has glossy display as well. For the CX in particular, which is a really nice OLED display,. it is far too glossy for daytime watching dark content in my living room. Just too much light reflections, especially from sun lit areas. Superior at evening though. For MBP, you do notice some reflections, but generally the screen is brighter + more of my work content is lighter, less reflections are shown.
The anti-reflective coating on the LG CX is pretty impressive, seems to deal well with any reflections up to a certain brightness. Regardless, yes, you definitely need to draw the curtains for daytime viewing of any content on the darker side. I have an LCD Gigabyte M28U monitor on my desk, with a massive window right behind, and it's fine for daytime use by comparison. But I'm open to the idea of a glossy monitor still, as long as it has a good level of brightness (not just a 5% window, or in HDR mode) and a good anti-reflective coating. One consideration about the anti reflective coating is that it does result in a display which needs to be treated with care. Monitors used in a work setting see a lot of abuse, you don't really want to have to follow special instructions to clean the screen.
@@liamness For me personally brightness was never an issue. I have a U2515H with semi-matte coating that I'm using at ~115 nits with a south facing window at a 90° angle. It's a bit dim when using dark mode applications in full sunshine but I don't like when it's too bright at night. The default 50% brightness comes out to around 200-220 nits which was eye-searingly bright. The C1 had a peak of 166 nits according to Hardware Unboxed and I would consider that very much usable for my situation but possibly a bit too dim for the average user. Above 200 nits just hurts my eyes and I don't understand why reviewers see 300+ as the minimum acceptable spec. Maybe because they're working in large studios under bright neon lights but that's just not representative of a consumer setup.
They are actually going to release a couple of their OLED tv's next year as "UltraGear" products. So its totally possible they may release the 42" and 48" OLEDs in a version with a heavier matte coat which would be cool.
@Bzake I just have diffusers ;) It helps.. but not as much as complete light blocking curtains. But it's alright, I don't use the TV in daytime except some on weekends.
Back in the day I looked specifically for glossy monitors. This was before all the hz wars and 60 was just the thing. I preferred the colors and everything just seemed to look better to me. Didn't know this was a thing coming back but am actually happy about it. Looking forward to try one out.
I've had glossy gaming monitors many years ago and definitely prefer matte. The image quality hands down is better on glossy but it's frustrating always trying to remove items that are reflecting off the screen. Or watching yourself game, lol.
I used an iMac since ever, my family had one as the m]family computer. Than I had a MBP and in 2018 I bought a 5K iMac. I used glossy displays since ever and really like them. I even had the LG OLED C1 on my desk for couple of weeks but being used to a 5K iMac, the pixel density was just not enough for me. So I found a 5K iMac with intact screen and broken motherboard, found a display port driver board on AliExpress and now my main gaming display is a 5K iMac screen. Games like Cyberpunk, Far Cry, GTA V, Ghost recon are beautiful on this screen.
My 2007 HP Pavilion had a beautiful glossy panel that I have had a hard time finding an equivalent to in much modern laptops... the reflection never really bothered me.
Particularly when it comes to a company with a track record like Eve. They said they would ship the Spectrum 4K to me in January, that didn't happen and now I bought an M28U instead. Still waiting on a refund. Others have been waiting much longer.
I'm glad youtubers are finally talking about glossy. I have been complaining about no glossy options for YEARS. To me the diffusion and larger reflections that are a result are more distracting and annoying than the direct reflections of glossy. With that and the vastly superior image I'd take glossy for sure. The best glossy is the kind that exists on high end tvs like the new LG oleds for example. They do a very good job of minimizing reflection intensity while being glossy.
Never understood why everyone wants matte screens. I mean in a gaming Setup you plan to not have any light reflections on your monitor anyways and glossy is so much better in quality
I think matte became the standard for monitors due to most office buildings having those horrible florescent lights causing tons of reflections and glares. Consumer monitors follow suit because keeping the same coating across product lines is easier/cheaper. For consumer monitors, I think having the option of either coating is key depending on a setup. My home setup is next to large windows with lots of light so matte makes sense there, but I'd snag glossy no questions asked if I had a darker space.
I want glossy now. I use to have an epic glossy display and with the position I keep my monitors and my lighting I don’t care about glare. I care about image quality and color accuracy. I have such a hard time enjoying my lg ips 144hz 1440p 32” because of the matte finish and washed out colors. I’ve tried calibrating it but im wondering if I need one of those devices to calibrate it
My own experience with glossy monitors is that they are great if you can completely control the lighting of your setup. Very much preferred. If you can't control the lighting, just get a matte finish display.
People who have been using TVs as monitors are probably familiar with receiving better image quality. I've been using large TVs as computer monitors for a long time. I have experience with previous gen Samsung TVs. I'm currently using the UN50EH6000F. Although most TVs have glossy screens and they easily show reflections, the image quality you get from them is noticeably better than your typical computer monitor.
When I use my MacBook outside, the reflections on the glossy screen creates a second image that makes it really difficult to focus on the content on the screen. Matte screens are really welcome if they don’t have the disadvantage of worse image (or have minimally like in this case).
That's the weird part. Laptops are more likely to be used outdoors and thus should have matte screens while desktop monitors should be glossy. But the reality is the other way around, with laptop screens almost always being glossy.
They ALWAYS destroy image quality. And I completely disagree with your take. When I've used matte screens with strong light or reflections on the screen I can't see anything either. It smears the whole screen with this thick gray haze that makes it hard to see anything and certainly isn't enjoyable or aesthetically pleasing. Besides, we're talking about gaming monitors here. Which are devices used for entertainment in our own homes. I've never been unable to position my monitor or alter lighting conditions to avoid strong reflections.
@@cyberedge881 yes by design they always worsen the image but to what extent they worsen changes hence the difference between a $50 cover and a $1000 markup on apple’s Pro Display XDR for a matte screen. Matte covers do remove the background image for the cost of greying out but actually being able to see what’s on the screen is more important than aesthetics. I’m talking from my perspective as a laptop user and you don’t have to agree with it.
Currently use a 4k tv with glossy finish for both gaming and productivity. Don't have a lot of glare in my setup even during the day, and I usually use indirect lighting in the room, so don't really have an issue with glare, and I love the colors
I have had a good matte 27'' 1440p display next to a 27'' iMac and the difference in picture quality couldn't be more dramatic. Fonts look crisp and sharp like razors on the iMac, while looking like a blurry mess on the matte screen. I will never use another non-glossy display again. Reflections on a controlled environment like a room are a non-issue. The lack of PC alternatives to the iMac's glossy panel is one of the main reasons I prefer to play on Bootcamp than on a dedicated Windows PC. Visual quality, colour accuracy and sharpness are just too important for me. I'm happy to see that may change in a few years, when time comes to upgrade. Though I doubt we will get glass on Windows PC displays anytime soon, which is the second part of the equation that makes iMacs look so good.
Sometimes in certain lighting scenarios, glossy works so much better for reflection control. I worked at an office with overhead lights once that even though the lights weren't reflecting in the panel directly, you could see large, soft blooms of light in across the panel from these overhead lamps because of how much the matte coating blurs and makes the reflections larger. If I was using a glossy screen in this situation, there would just plain be no visible reflections from those lights at all -- which would have been visually preferrable.
Thanks for making a list! I was searching for this for a while, i have an arcade game setup with a ton of LED's and in the real arcade there is a glossy display + glass panel in front of the monitor And i already got one of the glass panels but didn't know where to find a glossy display. I hope it's going to look epic when i get around to setting it up.
For me if my setup has proper lighting, (i.e. no insane reflections) I would definitely choose a glossy coating, after living with a glossy coating laptop for a few years I definitely agree on the reflection being an issue. For now I have completely transferred back to matte coatings for both my laptop and desktop, but if you are able to control the lighting perfectly with like a desk setup I don't see why not for going for a glossy coating for all the benefits it provides.
Good thing they sent you this for review...I almost upgraded my 280Hz to Glossy, but after some of the things learned here I will prefer less reflections and distractions in games like CS:GO
I've been waiting for something like this for years. I have always preferred glossy coating and never understood why manufactures wouldn't make both matte and gloss to let the consumer decide. Glad to see Eve doing this.
Small correction, i believe the glossiness is not the product of a glossy coating per se, it is simply glossy due to a lack of a mat coating. (i could be wrong)
Honestly, always wanted to have a matte TV as well because I always found glossy panels highly distracting. I'd take that slight diffusion every day/hour for less distraction and actually being able to see what's displayed :p Guess my eyes love the matte though I totally get the glossy appeal.
If there's a strong enough light that obscures what's being displayed on your glossy tv it's going to completely wash out the image on a matte tv as well.
I can't understand how some of you can stand the look of matte screens. It looks absolutely horrible to me, to the point I won't even use a matte screen. I mean, if I was stuck in an office environment or something and it was just being used for a utilitarian purpose, sure. But for entertainment? Hell no. I've modded every gaming monitor I've ever bought to give them glossy screens and it has been a massive improvement in each case. Luckily, most of my TVs over the years--CRTs, plasmas, high-end LCDs and OLEDs--have all had glossy screens.
@Koustuv Kanungo Exactly. That's why I find this argument very weak. When there is a strong reflection on the screen it is strongly present on both types of screen. It is merely smeared over a larger area on a matte screen. (You can see an example of this in the video). It looks bad in either case. The only solution is to adjust your monitor position and/or control the lighting conditions. That's all there is to it. Matte screens are not a solution.
Finally people are getting it. The matte coating is a trade off. You get less reflections but the cost is lack of vibrancy, color depth and brightness. It is indeed like a filter had been applied on the screen. Hopefully more manufacturers give the consumer option to choose which one they want.
The way I could just watch every single video when I know I can’t afford half the stuff she shows on the channel lol. Keep it up man your videos are always so informative and top tier quality that we all enjoy.
I think most computer monitors for years have had the matt finish by default due to many buyers being people who work in offices, or people in brightly lit spaces. However a good proportion of people now work from home and can control the lighting. And most gamers I know prefer to game in a dark environment anyway. I am a big fan of glossy displays.
Viewing angle is important. I use a big 48" LG CX OLED as a Gaming Monitor. Since it is a TV is also has the glossy finish. My big deffused LED Light on the ceiling doesn't reflect that much since it is offaxis. My Second Monitor, which is matte, doesn't reflect on the TV. The only thing that is reflecting in the bottom corner is my Keyboard-Backlight. I have no other RGB in my room. Before that i had a LG 27GL850 which not only was matte and pretty gray in the dark areas, but it also had BLB in 4 colors over 70% of the Screen...but BLB is not a defect...
I think after seeing the difference I totally want a glossy panel now. I'm all about that picture quality and as far as the reflections go, I can just turn off some of the lights in the house and move things around a bit to not get any reflections. My mom had a iMac some years ago and I always liked the build quality of that if nothing else. Now that I remember it, a big part of that was its excellent glossy screen. So I want the glossy PC monitors to come back.
I am super dívided with this topic. I recently bought my first 1440p monitor and for some reason the matt coating was really apperant, espacilly with a white background. It was so apperent that I actually had to send it back. Since then I am really interested in a glossy Display, but like you said the huge impact of the surronding light depending on the time of the day holds me back. I mean since they only plan to use the glossy coating for the 1440p 240 hz and 4k 144 hz it should not really concern me since I am neither rich enough nor interested in those specs for a monitor. But awesome Video like always
About ten years ago I used a glossy Samsung s27a750d. It's advertised as 3d and not gaming, but it has 120hz refresh rate and game mode in OSD menu, so I used it mainly for gaming. It also came with 3D glasses, something we haven't seen for a long time. To summary, the image quality was superb and I had no trouble with reflection whatsoever. Too bad my unit died after three years and Samsung stops making a successor to this model.
i prefer the Glossy 100%, i wish the Viewsonic XG2431 was available as a glossy monitor :( Just imagine a 23.8", 1440p, 240Hz, QD-OLED, FLAT monitor with a Glossy Glass Front 🤤
I personally use both. I have my gaming monitor as my main display with a matte screen then i have a 4k 10 bit hdr panel with a matt screen. I appreciate the matte both for professional use and gaming, no light distractions and is a consistant image. I do have a third and 4th glossy screen that i like but are not critikal for work in any way. idk glossy means casual, long term viewing for media consumption etc. matte feels more serious and professional to me.
I call BS on that. Strong reflections look terrible on matte screens too. They are not consistent in their image. Except consistently dull and lifeless.
All the best looking displays I've owned over the years have had glossy screens...CRTs, plasmas, high-end LCDs and OLEDs. I associate matte screens with crappy, terrible-looking LCD displays.
The reflections on matte screens are less distracting. If there's a small light source it can mostly be eliminated completely and the biggest thing about a matte screen is I don't see my reflection move as I would with glossy. Trust me I've been literally using both at my setup for over 5 years. I also have a window in my studio, when I open my windows I'm glad there's no glare on my main screens. Also my Asus ZenBook duo has matte screens and I'm happy I can work outside at anytime and not worry about my screen becoming a mirror. I used to have a HP with a really nice glossy 4k screen but it was almost unusable by a window our outside. I would have to max my brightness but that in turn would shorten battery life.
@@kovafilms Don't bother responding. This guy has some sort of superiority complex that makes him respond to any comment that isn't completely aboard the glossy train. One of the most saddest behaviors I've seen so far in this year.
This was very enlightening! I didn't realise that the light dispersion of the matte panel had an impact on clarity, but you explain and prove it well. Thank you!
i'm very happy to see a high refresh glossy panel! i adore the mini-LED screen on my macbook pro, and my Acer 34 GX is awesome, but I wish it was not curved and glossy. I would probably even go back to 16:9 but I just can't push 4k easily with my 3070 on some titles
I wouldn't say it's the first of it's kind. I had a glossy 144hz, 2560x1600 Yamasaki monitor about 8 years ago . It was a random Korean brand you could only get off eBay and made with reject panels from some big manufacturers. Despite the poor color accuracy (10bit and poorly calibrated) and backlight bleed it looked amazing in the dark.
Brings me back to the CRT days with the reflections on screen. It definitely looks sharper but I'd prefer to stay with the anti glare since the sharpness doesn't amount to anything when there is a big glare spot on the screen. I know because I used to experience it.
It's simple: glossy coatings make for a better picture than a matte coating. Always. But... you can't enjoy that better picture if you're in a room where reflections are a bother. And if your screen truly is fully glossy, that's... well almost all the time. Even the 'glossy' and very reflective OLED TVs and such have anti-glare filters and while appearing glossy, actually do minimize reflections a lot more than if it were 'just' a glass panel for instance. Still, if you compare two screens (hard to do these days) that are identical, but one has the matte coating removed (you could do this on older panels) the one with the matte-layer removed will always look better in a dark room for instance. No contest. Many gamers who have a game-den or use a home office-room for gaming too do so in the evening or dim the lights. Then such a glossy monitor could make a lot of sense. TL;DR Matte coatings or solutions affect light diffusion, even in a dark room, and will agressively diminish contrast when light from the outside hits the screen - as a trade off for negating horrible reflections. So there's a place for matte, glossy and in-between solutions.
I use all my glossy displays in a variety of lighting conditions (other than extremely bright direct sunlight, which you can always control for) and I've never had any problem. Glossy looks beautiful in most lighting conditions, while matte looks dull and lifeless all of the time, imo.
What's interesting here is that both coatings have anti-glare properties. On the matte it's much much more aggressively dispersed, but there is a coating on the glossy surface to attempt to reduce reflective light. On the LG C1 this coating does a decent job at removing reflections but it's not like the anti-glare on say an iPad Pro or Macbook. Apple having decades of experience dealing with glossy screens they've become very adept at utilizing their technologies for this. The Eve Spectrum coating seems to do a decent job however, but it's still very reflective. Overall for color accuracy and true punch the glossy wins out every time, but if you mainly game and sit in brightly lit rooms instead of say a more dimly lit office area matte can be a good choice. For me with the C1, glossy just underlines the OLED capabilities so well and there's no turning back for me.
Matte screens hide the dust and other dirt particles much easier, glossy you have to constantly clean them, more so in laptops where you are closer and tend to get more dirt.
@@cyberedge881 growing your hair is a beautiful thing, having more and more visible dirt in your screen isn't. Care to elaborate why your analogy would make sense?
@@Manuel-rl6um His analogy makes sense because you won't have to maintain your hair if you don't have hair in the first place. Just like your claim as not having to clean dust particles if you can't see them in the first place.
I get that monitor meant for offices should be matte as there are usually multiple sources of bright lights in an office and an individual have little control over the lighting. But as for gaming monitors, they are almost always found in the comfort of a gamer's home with full control over the lighting and positioning. Both my phone and iPad have glossy screens and I never once find reflection to be an issue.
Miss glossy monitors. Love the better contrast and vibrance they have. I actually still have a glossy 24” monitor in use on an second computer. The new Alienware AW3423DW is a glossy OLED monitor and I’m so tempted to pick that up. Any chance you’ll review it?
I miss glossly monitors. I used to use my sisters mac desktop PC which is an all in 1 PC and loved the glossy screen with its brightness. The contrast is more vivid, image is sharper, and feel like its just looks so sleek over all. I didnt mind the glare either cos it swas bright enough.
I ordered one, eve monitors have a few things going for them over the competition - 1. way better design, i don't know why every other company thinks people want this ugly "gaming" aesthetic 2. only monitor i'm aware of that does integer scaling, so theoretically even though it's a 4K display you can play games @ 1080p and it still should have a "native" look to it 3. and now only gaming monitor with a glossy option I am sure the contrast will still be lacking due to the nature of IPS, especially compared to some of these high end mini-led or oled coming out - but hopefully the glossy display will help with that. Also coming from one of the first TN gsync monitor's it cant be any worse than what I have now. now I just hope that with it being a smaller company that I actually get the monitor in a reasonable time and don't have any issues with it
@@henryt9731 no, the glossy version just became available to the general public yesterday. I don't expect to get it for a couple months judging by what most people say
@@zs2001 true, but for my specific case my GPU doesn't support that, and if you wanted to hook something like a switch up that wouldn't be an option either with software
Considering Eve's history of unfulfilled orders and scam practices, I would hope you get it at all, let alone in a reasonable timeframe. it looks great but it's a big risk.
I will always choose glossy over matte. LG's oled anti reflective properties fare much better than 99% of matte monitors out there. The more companies implement a good glossy anti reflective coating, the better.
to me glossy is a siren song situation. lured in by the insanely poppy colors and contrast but ultimately burned by mirror like reflections. I know that glossy can be a good choice for people with complete control over their ambient light situation and while i can obtain that level of control its more that i just don't want to have to do that. theres no right or wrong choice here so i guess we should see more monitors coming with both options to get more freedom of choice in the market.
Honestly, glossy panels are superior - but only in ideal conditions. In every house I've lived in, I have yet to have an office space that worked for a gloss display panel, either due to locations of light fixtures or being unable to control where sunlight hits walls/the user. If you only use your system at night in a dark room then glossy is great, in nearly every other situation anti-reflective is such a QoL improvement - I mean even Apple are charging extra for their "nano texture" as an upgrade over gloss displays. Edit to add, my use case is that my system is used for work during the day and gaming in the evening so my monitor needs to work for both.
I am absolutely on team glossy coating and really wish there was some way of converting my existing monitors to that considering how rare it is to find displays that offer it out of the box.
I was really on board with the glossy when I first saw it, but now after watching this I realize that was all due to the viewing angles. I can barely tell a difference in the colors straight on, while the reflections are way more prominent. Matte is probably worth sticking with.
I totally love glossy panels and I don't get why they stopped making them several years ago. I still remember how good the image looked on an Acer laptop that had a glossy panel. None of the matte finish panels today offer that "clear" image anymore. Also, as I primarily game and watch content in a dark room, reflections won't be an issue. I'm also interested in removing my matte filter from my 27gn800, saw some guides on YT that show them being peeled off after soaking them with paper towels and water. I haven't found one for my particular model but I think I'll give it a try soon.
On the one hand, I'd love to have a glossy screen for the better look, on the other I like sitting in sunny spots while on the computer and my mate screen does a great job of handling reflections.
What a time to be alive.10 years ago every monitor was glossy, and we wanted mat coatings. Now: first glossy gaming monitor. In few years we will have first gaming mouse with a ball :)
Yeah Lmao
Tbf. There are already mice with balls, but they’re just not below und more used for thumb scrolling.
@@Definitely_Melnyx I don't think thats the kind of ball he is talking about...
I want a gaming trackball
Lol I remember when people didn’t want glossy monitor so they would put a matte film over it.
I really love how these monitors are clean, simple and no logos.
i always wondered why everybody wanted matte coating when i personally thought glossy looked best! it's great to see glossy making a comeback for gaming monitors!
Yes, get one and then come back to tell us how it went.
@@HenryTownsmyth
You're silly. 95% of the displays I've owned have been glossy and I've had no issues with any of them. I currently still own multiple plasmas, CRTs, an OLED and two LCD monitors and all of them are glossy. I modded the LCD monitors to be glossy and they look vastly better than they did with the matte coatings they came with. Suffice it to say, I really hate the look of matte screens. It robs so much of the color, contrast, pop and depth from the image.
@@HenryTownsmyth look at your glossy phone and tell us how it went
@@HenryTownsmyth It was just like oled. Once I used a glossy monitor I could never use a matte monitor again.
I miss my 2015 4k touch screen gaming laptop like crazy
I would never have thought about that if you didn't mentioned here. I think Mac screens are looking so good, because they are more glossy than others, despite being coated in some way.
I also had a relatively old laptop lying around. Resolution was not fancy, but the screen was glossy and looked much better indoors than more modern laptops with a matte screen.
The coating is to remove light reflection
@@Rresenden ofc but the matte coating in return dims colors and gives a slight blur to the overall image. Mac screens just look so crisp and popping.
Matte coatings suck all the life out of a picture. Colors, contrast, black levels, 3-dimensionality, vibrancy and pop all suffer significantly. I wouldn't even own a gaming monitor if I couldn't mod them to have glossy screens. I won't buy any matte display.
mac screens have glass in front, unlike 99% of regular monitors..
Macs have an anti-reflective coating. It’s Different than a matte display. It’s like the anti-reflective coatings for eyeglasses.
I've been using the LG c1 oled since August. So I have some experience in both glossy and matte.
If you have your setup where a window is facing the monitor, don't even bother getting glossy unless you get blackout curtains. The reflections is insanely noticeable.
But if your setup has curtains or isn't near a window.... it is definitely 100% worth getting over matte.
I've noticed that if you have a room only lit by ceiling lights, the matte actually looks worse because it spreads the lightness throughout the monitor.
To be fair, your LG tv isnt straight glossy. It has an anti-reflective coating. This gaming monitor seems to be legit straight glossy which will be 100x worse than your LG tv
Really want to get this but worried about lighting. Play mostly at night with curtains closed and one ceiling light not directly over pc setup. Anyone want to lend me one of these so I can test before I buy?
@@goblinphreak2132 I understand LG handles this coating too. They call it a "low haze anti-reflective glossy coating"
@@goblinphreak2132 If what you're saying is true then absolutely don't put it into a room with any window light, because my CX OLED forced me into blocking a 1 ft wide window because it was letting too much light in and causing a ridiculous glare from my sitting position...
@@ALmaN11223344 the room my pc is in not only has pulldown privacy shades but also thick lime green curtains. I wont have any issue with reflections lol
I love glossy panels! I game in a dark room with thick curtains, so reflections are never really a problem. All monitors don't have to be glossy, but they don't have to be all matte either. Give customers a choice! Besides, you can always put a matte screen protector over a glossy screen if you really want. Removing a matte coating is much more difficult.
Not that difficult, it's impossible. If you buy an screen with matte finish, you will live with it till the day it die or get new screen.
@@anhtuanrena It's possible
You can find out in a Ytube video but void Warrenty which is suck.
I would choose glossy every time. I currently have a glossy panel that is nothing special but it makes colors and darks so much more prominent. I refused to buy a new monitor for years because we only had a choice of matte screens. BTW, thank you for showcasing the fact that having a matte screen doesn't mean you don't have to worry about reflections. In fact, it sometimes makes them worse (dispersing them like you showed). It's all preference but it would be nice if we actually had a bit of a choice to make.
I worry that if they start adding anti reflective glossy coatings like they do on televisions the price of monitors will go up drastically (they're already ridiculous).
Same shit with laptops. Most have matte display and a lot dont even have lan port anymore. Wtf?
lol wth would put a screen protector on the monitor wtf never heard that one
I’ve often wanted to remove my matte filter to see what the screen looks like glossy. It’s possible but it could never be returned to its original condition. I’m surprised no manufacturer has come up with a removable or optional matte filter at factory.
I removed the matte filter from my monitor and it was a big upgrade. Risky but possible
@@DAlbanese10 mind sharing how you did that? My monitor has a very thick matte coating and it really annoys me
@@cyprian4869 dont do it i had done it last year
Peos:
Great Picture quality like 10 times better
Cons:
Headache idk if it is just me i get terrible headaches if i try to play on it so now its useless to me
2.scratches
please tell
Don't do this, 99% that you will ruin the display
This man's biceps grow with every new subscriber.
I've had a glossy panel for 10 years, and the trick is to have a warm light source that that is at an angle where it won't be visible as a reflection on the glossy panel, but still able to uniformly shine its light across the entirety of the panel. For some reason it greatly increases vibrancy, contrast and gives you deeper blacks.
Matte panels can't even compare, as long as you know how to set up your lighting conditions, which is why I'm waiting for some nice glossy options before upgrading. It's like comparing a high quality photograph, printed on glossy paper, to an aged, washed-out printout on plain paper.
eh, its been the opposite case with me. I would put on my curtains and get the room as dark as possible to game on my glossy monitor, and even then, even the slightest of light coming in would be enough to show my face on it during a dark scene.
While the matt screen works well EVEN when I don't have my curtains on. And sure there is a difference in image quality but definitely nothing even close to how you describe it with High quality photograph against a washed-out printout. You're being biased
another advantage of glossy over matte is that to deal with reflections you can control the environment, turn off the lights, remove bright objects and more, with mate you are sort of stuck and it will always have a layer of anti glare hindering your experience.
the sun is very easy to move around
@@adahepper2665 you can always try moving yourself
@@PREDATEURLT having a mate screen does. You can't do anything about it.
@@adahepper2665 I have curtains here in my house and it does the job pretty good. Almost dark as night during the day
@@alpacamale2909 And you don't have to completely darken your room (including painstakingly covering your windows for even a slither of gap) to enjoy a dark game/movie with a matt screen. If that ain't convenience, Idk what is
No wonder the LG OLED glossy TVs look so nice!
I am so happy that Eve stood up to the plate and gave us consumers what we wanted. I have been holding off upgrading my old ass desktop monitor because I love glossy displays and I despise matte antiglare.
I have won a glossy BenQ LED TN LCD in a tournament back in 2006, and I thought it was the single biggest improvement to an LCD screens ever. Gone was the bland look, everything was more vibrant, CLEAR, much more like on my CRT. Still, it was 75Hz so I sold it. In January 2022 I went on to build a new PC and decided to finally buy myself LCD as the main screen (been using Mitsubishi SB2070 all those years)... but there were none in the shops? So I just bought 144Hz AOC 24G2U, as it was a reasonable price to check 144Hz, if I'm ok with IPS, pixel density and fps vs size and resolution. I will say side by side on the strongest overdrive it is close to 100Hz on my Mitsubishi, but it is not even a competition when CRT is running on 120Hz or more (this one can go 160Hz depending on the resolution). Anyway glossy 240Hz 27 1440 IPS is probably what I would like next.
My dude, your arms are looking JACKED
As far as I'm concerned, the more options for monitors out there the better. People will like this depending on their gaming environment. If you are in a small windowless room where you can easily control reflections, this is a great option. In the living room, not so much.
I ordered one. Wish me luck it ever arrives given Eve Device's history
Did it? Or is it too soon 😆
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I hope EVE as a company manages to deliver and deal with the whole customer side of things. Screen sure looks nice tho!
I feel like most people had low expectations for this product since the way they handled their last product was a bit of a letdown.
@@__vha The bigger issue is the eve monitor was supposed to release 3 years ago now and has been delayed for well... 3 years with excuses at every step. They still have only released 4k model and people are still waiting for it.
@NoNonsensePC My monitor just shipped and I only ordered in November, they are trying to get their shit on track and have only been hampered by crap in their operating regions through no fault of their own. Give them a break man, being a startup in the last couple of years is not a good time.
@@simonfitzgerald8490 wtf, I ordered the 1440p 240hz version in July last year, was meant to ship in October, delays up until January this year then I finally paid the rest of my order, was told it would ship end of January. I chased it in February and they said it would ship end of February, I chased a few days ago and was told it is now shipping in April!!! I just told them to forget it and refund me. Its a joke man, I'm definitely not giving them any breaks. Would avoid this company with a 100ft barge pole.
@Carl Gunderson well i have received my monitor and it's fantastic so
Even with direct bright light shining on it, glossy looks so much better. I can actually still see the image. I’m blinded by the smearing horrible mess of the matte panel. I hope my Alienware AW3423DW doesn’t look too bad with reflections.
Now shine that bright light on yourself in front of the monitor and watch Star Wars/Trek movie on it.
I've had my AW3423DW for 3 days now. It's pretty glossy (like LG OLED's if you've used one). Not bad at all when displaying bright images, but with darker stuff you will want to control the lighting in your room (particularly behind you), a bit to get the best experience out of it.
That said, it's the best gaming display on the market right now, bar none.
That monitor looks killer. Beautiful colors, deep blacks, amazing contrast, perfect viewing angles, glossy screen finish, awesome sci-fi inspired design. I want one bad.
My AW3423DW reflects way less light than my S2721DGFA. The matte coating even adds a gigantic halo around the light source.
I love the fact that my 7 yr old gaming laptop does have a glossy panel instead of all the gaming laptops that come with matte coatings today.
i'd love to see more glossy gaming monitors. picture quality just looks a lot better. insane that apple charges $300 extra for apple studio display and $1000 extra for XDR display to have matte displays on their already expensive monitors lol
because its apple. theres your problem!
@@saveEarth69 The new studio display isn't all too badly priced when you go spec by spec though tbh. Dolby Atmos speakers, a "high res" webcam, a 5k display, not too terrible for around $1,600. Only thing that's definitely "apple priced" is the damn arm that's optional lol
Yeah, but the problem is, most monitors are Matt. Most companies use Matt The only glossy you can find on. Most things are t vs that are mostly glossy.
Finally. I've been a fan of glossy for years, because the benefits usually far outweigh the drawbacks in an environment and lighting under the users control.
I argued for this 5 years ago and was called stupid by the ignorant. I'm glad that I was right.
What do I have to say?
You look more and more buff after each new video!
Good work, on both fronts.
ICAN personally go either way with monitors being matte or glossy. Growing up using an occasional glossy lcd monitor in its infancy was easy imo to adjust to. Now using my LG CX Oled and a normal monitor depending on which gaming rig I’m using is fine to use either way. I have normal Venetian blinds and the glare is no problem nor distracting in any way on my Oled when gaming. I definitely agree that a glossy screen gives you a noticeably sharper image 🥰👍
My computer is connected to a LG CX (glossy) and my MacBook Pro has glossy display as well. For the CX in particular, which is a really nice OLED display,. it is far too glossy for daytime watching dark content in my living room. Just too much light reflections, especially from sun lit areas. Superior at evening though. For MBP, you do notice some reflections, but generally the screen is brighter + more of my work content is lighter, less reflections are shown.
The anti-reflective coating on the LG CX is pretty impressive, seems to deal well with any reflections up to a certain brightness. Regardless, yes, you definitely need to draw the curtains for daytime viewing of any content on the darker side. I have an LCD Gigabyte M28U monitor on my desk, with a massive window right behind, and it's fine for daytime use by comparison. But I'm open to the idea of a glossy monitor still, as long as it has a good level of brightness (not just a 5% window, or in HDR mode) and a good anti-reflective coating.
One consideration about the anti reflective coating is that it does result in a display which needs to be treated with care. Monitors used in a work setting see a lot of abuse, you don't really want to have to follow special instructions to clean the screen.
@@liamness For me personally brightness was never an issue. I have a U2515H with semi-matte coating that I'm using at ~115 nits with a south facing window at a 90° angle. It's a bit dim when using dark mode applications in full sunshine but I don't like when it's too bright at night. The default 50% brightness comes out to around 200-220 nits which was eye-searingly bright.
The C1 had a peak of 166 nits according to Hardware Unboxed and I would consider that very much usable for my situation but possibly a bit too dim for the average user. Above 200 nits just hurts my eyes and I don't understand why reviewers see 300+ as the minimum acceptable spec. Maybe because they're working in large studios under bright neon lights but that's just not representative of a consumer setup.
They are actually going to release a couple of their OLED tv's next year as "UltraGear" products. So its totally possible they may release the 42" and 48" OLEDs in a version with a heavier matte coat which would be cool.
@Bzake I just have diffusers ;) It helps.. but not as much as complete light blocking curtains. But it's alright, I don't use the TV in daytime except some on weekends.
Back in the day I looked specifically for glossy monitors. This was before all the hz wars and 60 was just the thing. I preferred the colors and everything just seemed to look better to me. Didn't know this was a thing coming back but am actually happy about it. Looking forward to try one out.
I've had glossy gaming monitors many years ago and definitely prefer matte. The image quality hands down is better on glossy but it's frustrating always trying to remove items that are reflecting off the screen. Or watching yourself game, lol.
@@goldeternal You can also just get a matte screen and not having to "control your lighting".
I used an iMac since ever, my family had one as the m]family computer. Than I had a MBP and in 2018 I bought a 5K iMac. I used glossy displays since ever and really like them. I even had the LG OLED C1 on my desk for couple of weeks but being used to a 5K iMac, the pixel density was just not enough for me.
So I found a 5K iMac with intact screen and broken motherboard, found a display port driver board on AliExpress and now my main gaming display is a 5K iMac screen. Games like Cyberpunk, Far Cry, GTA V, Ghost recon are beautiful on this screen.
Yeah, I bet. That must look beautiful.
We need more glossy monitors!! 😤
Dream monitor for night users!
Holy shit, been some weeks since I last checked your channel and wtf? You're pumped! Fit af, good for you!
My 2007 HP Pavilion had a beautiful glossy panel that I have had a hard time finding an equivalent to in much modern laptops... the reflection never really bothered me.
THANK YOU!!!!!!! BEEN LOOKING FOR LIKE 5 OR MORE YEARS FOR THIS!!!!!!!!!
never pre-order is the one thing I've learnt when it comes to anything hardware or gaming.
Particularly when it comes to a company with a track record like Eve. They said they would ship the Spectrum 4K to me in January, that didn't happen and now I bought an M28U instead. Still waiting on a refund. Others have been waiting much longer.
I'm glad youtubers are finally talking about glossy. I have been complaining about no glossy options for YEARS.
To me the diffusion and larger reflections that are a result are more distracting and annoying than the direct reflections of glossy. With that and the vastly superior image I'd take glossy for sure.
The best glossy is the kind that exists on high end tvs like the new LG oleds for example. They do a very good job of minimizing reflection intensity while being glossy.
I have been using the same glossy monitor for my pc for about 10+yrs. Always thought they looked better than matte
I agree. It's almost absurd how much better they look with glossy screens.
Never understood why everyone wants matte screens. I mean in a gaming Setup you plan to not have any light reflections on your monitor anyways and glossy is so much better in quality
I think matte became the standard for monitors due to most office buildings having those horrible florescent lights causing tons of reflections and glares. Consumer monitors follow suit because keeping the same coating across product lines is easier/cheaper.
For consumer monitors, I think having the option of either coating is key depending on a setup. My home setup is next to large windows with lots of light so matte makes sense there, but I'd snag glossy no questions asked if I had a darker space.
I want glossy now. I use to have an epic glossy display and with the position I keep my monitors and my lighting I don’t care about glare. I care about image quality and color accuracy. I have such a hard time enjoying my lg ips 144hz 1440p 32” because of the matte finish and washed out colors. I’ve tried calibrating it but im wondering if I need one of those devices to calibrate it
I can't wait until glossy monitors become more mainstream. Will definitely get one at some point.
Is it me? Or is he getting more and more jacked every video
Got one ordered months ago, they're supposed to ship in June, we'll see how it goes. I'm very excited about testing this.
My own experience with glossy monitors is that they are great if you can completely control the lighting of your setup. Very much preferred. If you can't control the lighting, just get a matte finish display.
In other words, by default, most laptops should be matte, and most desktop displays should be glossy. Largely the inverse of what it is now.
Thank you for your reviews and builds.
Keep up the good work!
People who have been using TVs as monitors are probably familiar with receiving better image quality. I've been using large TVs as computer monitors for a long time. I have experience with previous gen Samsung TVs. I'm currently using the UN50EH6000F. Although most TVs have glossy screens and they easily show reflections, the image quality you get from them is noticeably better than your typical computer monitor.
Much love, as always, amazing review. 👍
Alienware QD Oled when? 😁
When I use my MacBook outside, the reflections on the glossy screen creates a second image that makes it really difficult to focus on the content on the screen. Matte screens are really welcome if they don’t have the disadvantage of worse image (or have minimally like in this case).
That's the weird part. Laptops are more likely to be used outdoors and thus should have matte screens while desktop monitors should be glossy. But the reality is the other way around, with laptop screens almost always being glossy.
They ALWAYS destroy image quality.
And I completely disagree with your take. When I've used matte screens with strong light or reflections on the screen I can't see anything either. It smears the whole screen with this thick gray haze that makes it hard to see anything and certainly isn't enjoyable or aesthetically pleasing.
Besides, we're talking about gaming monitors here. Which are devices used for entertainment in our own homes. I've never been unable to position my monitor or alter lighting conditions to avoid strong reflections.
@@cyberedge881 yes by design they always worsen the image but to what extent they worsen changes hence the difference between a $50 cover and a $1000 markup on apple’s Pro Display XDR for a matte screen. Matte covers do remove the background image for the cost of greying out but actually being able to see what’s on the screen is more important than aesthetics. I’m talking from my perspective as a laptop user and you don’t have to agree with it.
Currently use a 4k tv with glossy finish for both gaming and productivity. Don't have a lot of glare in my setup even during the day, and I usually use indirect lighting in the room, so don't really have an issue with glare, and I love the colors
Dave2D had a video on this too. I love glossy monitors and still miss my iMac for that reason. Hopefully more companies get into the glossy bandwagon
Good IPS panel and Matte Coating is always the best combination for me.
I have had a good matte 27'' 1440p display next to a 27'' iMac and the difference in picture quality couldn't be more dramatic. Fonts look crisp and sharp like razors on the iMac, while looking like a blurry mess on the matte screen. I will never use another non-glossy display again. Reflections on a controlled environment like a room are a non-issue.
The lack of PC alternatives to the iMac's glossy panel is one of the main reasons I prefer to play on Bootcamp than on a dedicated Windows PC. Visual quality, colour accuracy and sharpness are just too important for me. I'm happy to see that may change in a few years, when time comes to upgrade. Though I doubt we will get glass on Windows PC displays anytime soon, which is the second part of the equation that makes iMacs look so good.
Can't wait for the Alienware OLED ultrawide with the antireflective coating, that'll be a stark contrast to my IPS with matte
If manufacturers gave us a choice, I'd probably always go with glossy. I can definitely see why other people would choose matte though.
Ali has been hitting the gym harder than ever before.
Sometimes in certain lighting scenarios, glossy works so much better for reflection control. I worked at an office with overhead lights once that even though the lights weren't reflecting in the panel directly, you could see large, soft blooms of light in across the panel from these overhead lamps because of how much the matte coating blurs and makes the reflections larger. If I was using a glossy screen in this situation, there would just plain be no visible reflections from those lights at all -- which would have been visually preferrable.
I knew I wasn't crazy thinking glossy panels look better. I need an ultra wide glossy monitor asap.
absolutely nuts to see this channel grow over quarantine and now to this. well deserved , love the videos
Thanks for making a list!
I was searching for this for a while, i have an arcade game setup with a ton of LED's
and in the real arcade there is a glossy display + glass panel in front of the monitor
And i already got one of the glass panels but didn't know where to find a glossy display.
I hope it's going to look epic when i get around to setting it up.
For me if my setup has proper lighting, (i.e. no insane reflections) I would definitely choose a glossy coating, after living with a glossy coating laptop for a few years I definitely agree on the reflection being an issue. For now I have completely transferred back to matte coatings for both my laptop and desktop, but if you are able to control the lighting perfectly with like a desk setup I don't see why not for going for a glossy coating for all the benefits it provides.
new MacBook Air screen, glare is never an issue because of how bright the screen can get.
Good thing they sent you this for review...I almost upgraded my 280Hz to Glossy, but after some of the things learned here I will prefer less reflections and distractions in games like CS:GO
I've been waiting for something like this for years. I have always preferred glossy coating and never understood why manufactures wouldn't make both matte and gloss to let the consumer decide. Glad to see Eve doing this.
Small correction, i believe the glossiness is not the product of a glossy coating per se, it is simply glossy due to a lack of a mat coating. (i could be wrong)
Honestly, always wanted to have a matte TV as well because I always found glossy panels highly distracting. I'd take that slight diffusion every day/hour for less distraction and actually being able to see what's displayed :p
Guess my eyes love the matte though I totally get the glossy appeal.
🙌 Team Matte!
If there's a strong enough light that obscures what's being displayed on your glossy tv it's going to completely wash out the image on a matte tv as well.
I can't understand how some of you can stand the look of matte screens. It looks absolutely horrible to me, to the point I won't even use a matte screen.
I mean, if I was stuck in an office environment or something and it was just being used for a utilitarian purpose, sure. But for entertainment? Hell no.
I've modded every gaming monitor I've ever bought to give them glossy screens and it has been a massive improvement in each case.
Luckily, most of my TVs over the years--CRTs, plasmas, high-end LCDs and OLEDs--have all had glossy screens.
@Koustuv Kanungo
Exactly. That's why I find this argument very weak. When there is a strong reflection on the screen it is strongly present on both types of screen. It is merely smeared over a larger area on a matte screen. (You can see an example of this in the video). It looks bad in either case. The only solution is to adjust your monitor position and/or control the lighting conditions. That's all there is to it. Matte screens are not a solution.
we want OLED monitor. it's shame they are still making LED monitors, while there are already OLED TVs
Finally people are getting it. The matte coating is a trade off. You get less reflections but the cost is lack of vibrancy, color depth and brightness. It is indeed like a filter had been applied on the screen. Hopefully more manufacturers give the consumer option to choose which one they want.
The way I could just watch every single video when I know I can’t afford half the stuff she shows on the channel lol. Keep it up man your videos are always so informative and top tier quality that we all enjoy.
she? 🤨
I don't know why people see the glossy reflection of reflected light is a big deal since you are going to face the monitor directly anyways.
I think most computer monitors for years have had the matt finish by default due to many buyers being people who work in offices, or people in brightly lit spaces. However a good proportion of people now work from home and can control the lighting. And most gamers I know prefer to game in a dark environment anyway. I am a big fan of glossy displays.
Viewing angle is important. I use a big 48" LG CX OLED as a Gaming Monitor. Since it is a TV is also has the glossy finish. My big deffused LED Light on the ceiling doesn't reflect that much since it is offaxis. My Second Monitor, which is matte, doesn't reflect on the TV. The only thing that is reflecting in the bottom corner is my Keyboard-Backlight. I have no other RGB in my room.
Before that i had a LG 27GL850 which not only was matte and pretty gray in the dark areas, but it also had BLB in 4 colors over 70% of the Screen...but BLB is not a defect...
I went from "why would you need that" to "oh, why wouldn't you need that"
Glossy gang detected 😋
I was looking for this for the past 5 years! Finally someone did it!
I think after seeing the difference I totally want a glossy panel now. I'm all about that picture quality and as far as the reflections go, I can just turn off some of the lights in the house and move things around a bit to not get any reflections.
My mom had a iMac some years ago and I always liked the build quality of that if nothing else. Now that I remember it, a big part of that was its excellent glossy screen.
So I want the glossy PC monitors to come back.
I am super dívided with this topic. I recently bought my first 1440p monitor and for some reason the matt coating was really apperant, espacilly with a white background. It was so apperent that I actually had to send it back. Since then I am really interested in a glossy Display, but like you said the huge impact of the surronding light depending on the time of the day holds me back. I mean since they only plan to use the glossy coating for the 1440p 240 hz and 4k 144 hz it should not really concern me since I am neither rich enough nor interested in those specs for a monitor. But awesome Video like always
About ten years ago I used a glossy Samsung s27a750d. It's advertised as 3d and not gaming, but it has 120hz refresh rate and game mode in OSD menu, so I used it mainly for gaming. It also came with 3D glasses, something we haven't seen for a long time.
To summary, the image quality was superb and I had no trouble with reflection whatsoever. Too bad my unit died after three years and Samsung stops making a successor to this model.
I had 3 of those 24" 1080p 120hz glossy samsungs. i remember playing bf4 on them when it came out. Now i have a G9
i prefer the Glossy 100%, i wish the Viewsonic XG2431 was available as a glossy monitor :(
Just imagine a 23.8", 1440p, 240Hz, QD-OLED, FLAT monitor with a Glossy Glass Front 🤤
I personally use both. I have my gaming monitor as my main display with a matte screen then i have a 4k 10 bit hdr panel with a matt screen. I appreciate the matte both for professional use and gaming, no light distractions and is a consistant image. I do have a third and 4th glossy screen that i like but are not critikal for work in any way. idk glossy means casual, long term viewing for media consumption etc. matte feels more serious and professional to me.
I call BS on that. Strong reflections look terrible on matte screens too. They are not consistent in their image. Except consistently dull and lifeless.
All the best looking displays I've owned over the years have had glossy screens...CRTs, plasmas, high-end LCDs and OLEDs. I associate matte screens with crappy, terrible-looking LCD displays.
The reflections on matte screens are less distracting. If there's a small light source it can mostly be eliminated completely and the biggest thing about a matte screen is I don't see my reflection move as I would with glossy. Trust me I've been literally using both at my setup for over 5 years. I also have a window in my studio, when I open my windows I'm glad there's no glare on my main screens. Also my Asus ZenBook duo has matte screens and I'm happy I can work outside at anytime and not worry about my screen becoming a mirror. I used to have a HP with a really nice glossy 4k screen but it was almost unusable by a window our outside. I would have to max my brightness but that in turn would shorten battery life.
@@kovafilms Don't bother responding. This guy has some sort of superiority complex that makes him respond to any comment that isn't completely aboard the glossy train. One of the most saddest behaviors I've seen so far in this year.
@@bakaloid2940 I know i just realized reading down the comments haha pretty sad
I think Dave2D covered this in the past about the GLOSSE finish in a monitor. I think it depends upon your preference in the end.
This was very enlightening! I didn't realise that the light dispersion of the matte panel had an impact on clarity, but you explain and prove it well. Thank you!
i'm very happy to see a high refresh glossy panel! i adore the mini-LED screen on my macbook pro, and my Acer 34 GX is awesome, but I wish it was not curved and glossy. I would probably even go back to 16:9 but I just can't push 4k easily with my 3070 on some titles
I wouldn't say it's the first of it's kind. I had a glossy 144hz, 2560x1600 Yamasaki monitor about 8 years ago . It was a random Korean brand you could only get off eBay and made with reject panels from some big manufacturers. Despite the poor color accuracy (10bit and poorly calibrated) and backlight bleed it looked amazing in the dark.
Love this. Will definitely get one. Hate the cheap look of matt monitors, hppefully a thing of the past soon
Glossy all the way i can never deal with the very noticeable loss of image quality of matte screens
Yeah, but the only problem is, it's very rare. To find glossy monitors, most monitors are Matt
Brings me back to the CRT days with the reflections on screen. It definitely looks sharper but I'd prefer to stay with the anti glare since the sharpness doesn't amount to anything when there is a big glare spot on the screen. I know because I used to experience it.
I strongly disagree. Matte screens destroy image quality 100% of the time. Strong reflections look terrible on both matte and glossy screens.
@@cyberedge881 Hey I'm glad there is a market for this kind of display. I strongly disagree with your points as well but that's cool.
It's simple: glossy coatings make for a better picture than a matte coating. Always. But... you can't enjoy that better picture if you're in a room where reflections are a bother. And if your screen truly is fully glossy, that's... well almost all the time. Even the 'glossy' and very reflective OLED TVs and such have anti-glare filters and while appearing glossy, actually do minimize reflections a lot more than if it were 'just' a glass panel for instance. Still, if you compare two screens (hard to do these days) that are identical, but one has the matte coating removed (you could do this on older panels) the one with the matte-layer removed will always look better in a dark room for instance. No contest. Many gamers who have a game-den or use a home office-room for gaming too do so in the evening or dim the lights. Then such a glossy monitor could make a lot of sense.
TL;DR Matte coatings or solutions affect light diffusion, even in a dark room, and will agressively diminish contrast when light from the outside hits the screen - as a trade off for negating horrible reflections. So there's a place for matte, glossy and in-between solutions.
I use all my glossy displays in a variety of lighting conditions (other than extremely bright direct sunlight, which you can always control for) and I've never had any problem. Glossy looks beautiful in most lighting conditions, while matte looks dull and lifeless all of the time, imo.
What's interesting here is that both coatings have anti-glare properties.
On the matte it's much much more aggressively dispersed, but there is a coating on the glossy surface to attempt to reduce reflective light.
On the LG C1 this coating does a decent job at removing reflections but it's not like the anti-glare on say an iPad Pro or Macbook. Apple having decades of experience dealing with glossy screens they've become very adept at utilizing their technologies for this. The Eve Spectrum coating seems to do a decent job however, but it's still very reflective.
Overall for color accuracy and true punch the glossy wins out every time, but if you mainly game and sit in brightly lit rooms instead of say a more dimly lit office area matte can be a good choice.
For me with the C1, glossy just underlines the OLED capabilities so well and there's no turning back for me.
Matte screens hide the dust and other dirt particles much easier, glossy you have to constantly clean them, more so in laptops where you are closer and tend to get more dirt.
good point
If you burn all the hair off your head using a blowtorch you won't have to worry about cutting your hair anymore.
That's how you sound.
@@cyberedge881 growing your hair is a beautiful thing, having more and more visible dirt in your screen isn't.
Care to elaborate why your analogy would make sense?
Disagree. My matte screens are far dustier and show way way more than a glossy TV.
@@Manuel-rl6um His analogy makes sense because you won't have to maintain your hair if you don't have hair in the first place. Just like your claim as not having to clean dust particles if you can't see them in the first place.
I get that monitor meant for offices should be matte as there are usually multiple sources of bright lights in an office and an individual have little control over the lighting. But as for gaming monitors, they are almost always found in the comfort of a gamer's home with full control over the lighting and positioning. Both my phone and iPad have glossy screens and I never once find reflection to be an issue.
Miss glossy monitors. Love the better contrast and vibrance they have. I actually still have a glossy 24” monitor in use on an second computer.
The new Alienware AW3423DW is a glossy OLED monitor and I’m so tempted to pick that up. Any chance you’ll review it?
I miss glossly monitors. I used to use my sisters mac desktop PC which is an all in 1 PC and loved the glossy screen with its brightness. The contrast is more vivid, image is sharper, and feel like its just looks so sleek over all. I didnt mind the glare either cos it swas bright enough.
Good luck getting one lol. They only send actual units to RUclipsrs and the consumer orders and is left holding the bag.
This is what I’ve been desperately looking for for almost 10 years, just don’t know why they stopped
I ordered one, eve monitors have a few things going for them over the competition -
1. way better design, i don't know why every other company thinks people want this ugly "gaming" aesthetic
2. only monitor i'm aware of that does integer scaling, so theoretically even though it's a 4K display you can play games @ 1080p and it still should have a "native" look to it
3. and now only gaming monitor with a glossy option
I am sure the contrast will still be lacking due to the nature of IPS, especially compared to some of these high end mini-led or oled coming out - but hopefully the glossy display will help with that. Also coming from one of the first TN gsync monitor's it cant be any worse than what I have now.
now I just hope that with it being a smaller company that I actually get the monitor in a reasonable time and don't have any issues with it
Has yours arrived yet tho? Or how long did it take?
@@henryt9731 no, the glossy version just became available to the general public yesterday. I don't expect to get it for a couple months judging by what most people say
It is possible to get integer scaling on any monitor by having the image scaling done by your gpu instead of the display.
@@zs2001 true, but for my specific case my GPU doesn't support that, and if you wanted to hook something like a switch up that wouldn't be an option either with software
Considering Eve's history of unfulfilled orders and scam practices, I would hope you get it at all, let alone in a reasonable timeframe. it looks great but it's a big risk.
Damn mate, your setup is always so on point. Love it.
I will always choose glossy over matte. LG's oled anti reflective properties fare much better than 99% of matte monitors out there. The more companies implement a good glossy anti reflective coating, the better.
to me glossy is a siren song situation. lured in by the insanely poppy colors and contrast but ultimately burned by mirror like reflections. I know that glossy can be a good choice for people with complete control over their ambient light situation and while i can obtain that level of control its more that i just don't want to have to do that.
theres no right or wrong choice here so i guess we should see more monitors coming with both options to get more freedom of choice in the market.
Honestly, glossy panels are superior - but only in ideal conditions. In every house I've lived in, I have yet to have an office space that worked for a gloss display panel, either due to locations of light fixtures or being unable to control where sunlight hits walls/the user.
If you only use your system at night in a dark room then glossy is great, in nearly every other situation anti-reflective is such a QoL improvement - I mean even Apple are charging extra for their "nano texture" as an upgrade over gloss displays.
Edit to add, my use case is that my system is used for work during the day and gaming in the evening so my monitor needs to work for both.
Dude this monitor is like exactly what I was looking for
I am absolutely on team glossy coating and really wish there was some way of converting my existing monitors to that considering how rare it is to find displays that offer it out of the box.
I've always looked for a high quality glossy monitor as an extra portrait one to run next to my main. Glad there's an option now.
I was really on board with the glossy when I first saw it, but now after watching this I realize that was all due to the viewing angles. I can barely tell a difference in the colors straight on, while the reflections are way more prominent. Matte is probably worth sticking with.
You'll probably notice a bigger difference with your own eyes, rather then watching through a youtube video.
I totally love glossy panels and I don't get why they stopped making them several years ago. I still remember how good the image looked on an Acer laptop that had a glossy panel. None of the matte finish panels today offer that "clear" image anymore. Also, as I primarily game and watch content in a dark room, reflections won't be an issue.
I'm also interested in removing my matte filter from my 27gn800, saw some guides on YT that show them being peeled off after soaking them with paper towels and water. I haven't found one for my particular model but I think I'll give it a try soon.
I always use anti glare screen protector on my phone 🤣 I just love the texture
On the one hand, I'd love to have a glossy screen for the better look, on the other I like sitting in sunny spots while on the computer and my mate screen does a great job of handling reflections.