Great stuff; the world must know how un-happy and un-lucky the Lottery really is. As an aside, I'd be interested in knowing what happens if the in-game timer were to roll over mid-play session, but sadly, I don't have the 14,333 years of patience (after setting the system time to 2099-12-31, naturally) to test that empirically.
Not sure how but in theory it's possible. When you hack the GameCube Clock Value in TTYD, it instantly jumps back to the GameCube system time. So you'd have to hack system time directly
Nintendo did stuff like this A Lot back then. It's kind of baffling how things like this - or worse, Mr. Resetti - actually made it out the door at some point.
Yes you can. Stryder calculates a 100 year distance (from 2000 to 2099) as about 128 quadrillion. So 1000 years would only be about 1.28 quintillion. And he lists the maximum values in a signed 64-bit integer as over 9 quintillion. So the value is perfectly in range. It wouldn't roll over to a negative for 7000 years or so (if my math is correct).
Honestly, I kinda feel like the Happy Lucky Lottery being designed in such a way is actually kinda fitting, considering it's located in Rogueport, a town notorious for its thieves and pickpockets. Having a cheater manning the Lottery where he knows exactly how many days it'll be until you win, scamming you into buying more expensive tickets if you feel unsure about your current one just to reset the prize days, and then when you cheat the system, he guilt trips YOU and makes you buy a new ticket for a crazy price? That sounds exactly like something a lot of Rogueport's residents would do, lol.
@@zacharymogel9087 yeah, but you know, wait a year to get a price always is way better than a 1 in 10 million possibility. In real life one person can win, but even if you play everyday in your entire life there's a great chance that you will never get the jackpot.
@@clokie6671 You could make it so that one digit is always the same as tge actual number, randomize the placement, and then randomize the other 3 digits. 1 in 100 should be doable while also being random
i mean, she's secretly evil, so it makes sense. for all we know she's running the lottery behind the scenes, and is upset that it was cancelled because she can't steal anyone's money that day.
Not only would it have terrified me as a kid, but it would also cause me to cry for hours and never want to touch the game again. I might be being way too serious here, but honestly, I don't like this kind of stuff in video games. As someone who was a very sensitive, fearful child that cried at the drop of a hat, I find this sort of thing...cruel and vindictive. Obviously, kids need to be taught not to do certain things, and sometimes they need to experience the consequences of their actions, but...this just seems unnecessary to me.
*game has an unwinnable lottery system, but lies about it *player changes the clock back casually *game freaks out and decides to NEVER trust people again well, that's.... ironic
In way, the lottery being a scam makes sense. You are playing said lottery in a place called 'Rogueport'. A place where almost everyone has some form of shady dealings going on and likely wouldn't think twice about cheating people out of their money in one way or another.
...Wow, that actually makes a lot of sense. Never thought of it like that, I just assumed that Lucky was being a jerk for the laughs. I mean, I guess that explains why he's literally just a recolor of an already existing enemy.
Only in time... and there's no real way of knowing this without testing the system extensively yourself or, as shown in this video, pretty much looking into what's going on behind the scenes in the game with the lottery.
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I found that statistics was one of the most useful classes I ever took. So, by proxy, understanding how gambling and gambling scams work is helpful, especially since it's one of the most lucrative (and therefore prolific) rackets in the world. It also made me a much better equities trader, since probabilities are the difference between stacking wins vs. stacking losses.
More like 'haven't played the game in years, watched gamegrumps comp, then watched this for 5 minutes and lost interest after he goes into the math behind that hex values'
Let me get this straight. They put a minigame thing in that requires you to play a single player casual RPG for almost a year to get the most useful item. They presented it as if it was random chance, not even letting you know you literally have to do a "daily login" for almost a year to win first prize. It's only possible to find out how it works through hacking. They then put in some kind of punishment for circumventing this ridiculous thing? What the fuck devs.
I mean, by modern standards this is par for the course, it's just really bloody weird that Nintendo of all people was doing this so many years ahead, and without having a pay 2 win method of circumventing it.
@@A.B.I.MA. ah, I what I understood from the video was that Lucky Day and Power Plus were only available here, but rewatching I see that they are only available here ONCE.
@@colleenflattery4755 no it goes higher but you can't manually change it to do that. If you I don't know watched the video you'd see that it does that.
Jo Seph GD I mean there are a lot of mod guides for HDMI gamecubes, you can find some on ebay for pretty cheap anyway, and I’m sure something similar will be available in the future for whatever succeeds what we have now
unspoken, but accurate is that it makes the badge a minimum of 3,350 coins. that's if you are super lucky. If you are less lucky, it could be almost 4000 coins.
This reminds me of something similar in Yokai watch. If the game detects you screwed around with the system clock, it increases the chances of a brutally powerful boss spawning in. There’s just one flaw: half the time, the reason you were messing with the clock will be in an area that he can’t spawn, and the other half you’re specifically doing it so you can fight him, all the while chances are only increased, and is still rng based if he spawns or not. And the final problem: you are still entirely capable of sneaking away from the boss for no penalty, and you can get rare items while doing so.
Which boss are you talking about again? I can think of two or three different bosses you might be talking about and I want to ensure I don't get it wrong.
To make things worse, sometimes it’s not even your fault, as if the 3DS runs out of battery, the clock resets, activating the anti cheat all because you left your 3DS on for too long without charging it
And then in the later games he just yells at you and disables the crank a kai for 2 days, still completely unsympathetic to anyone who has to suffer through daylight savings
Hi Swanky! I watch your channel. Also, back when I was addicted to Animal Crossing new leaf, I would just do everything I could do on that day, then I would quit and advance the time by one day at about 10 in the morning and keep playing. It was a real addiction there for a while though, the only addiction I can honestly say I had. I can play Animal Crossing responsibly now though. ;)
@@GODOFAWSOMENESS1 Yeah, I remember. Beldam was always nice to Marilyn, but not Vivian, which is why she went and joined Mario's party, and helped beat up her sisters, at least until the end of the game, where everyone is messaging Mario about how they're doing, since Mario and his friends defeated the Shadow Queen, and Goombella mentions that Vivian and her sisters are getting along well, and that they're actually acting like a family, and are treating each other nicely. Which I didn't expect, since Beldam was the one who basically lead Grodus to the Shadow Queen's grave so he could bring her back, using Princess Peach's body as a sacrifice(holy crap, that might be the darkest plot in a Paper Mario game I've ever heard), and even though it looks like she killed Grodus, even after he gets zapped by the Shadow Queen, he's still alive, he's just a hopping metal head thingy now. And the computer that was in love with the Princess, is also brought back; and the X-Nauts stop being evil, and Vivian and her sisters agree to act like a family, and for some reason, every female friend of Mario's reveal that they were in love with Mario(probably because ladies love the 'stache, am I right?), but damn, this game might have the best plot of any Mario game ever. Also the darkest. Super Paper Mario is also a contender, but this game came out first, although I won't lie, SPM's plot does have just as good characters, plot, gameplay, character development, and villain backstory, like Mr. L, Dimentio, Count Bleck, Mimi(the creepy spider girl), and even a good reason for Dimentio to betray Bleck after it's over, and he becomes Super Dimentio. It's more of a traditional Mario RPG, but it works. Plus, you team up with Bowser, Peach, and Luigi! For almost the whole adventure. And when your companion sacrifices herself at the end, well, I'll admit, I may have shed a tear or 2. But why can't Paper Mario games just be as good as The Thousand-Year-Door or Super Paper Mario? I mean, if you liked the other Paper Mario games, that's perfectly fine, I'm only saying, I just think more people wanted an experience like the first 3 Paper Mario games is all. Sorry this has been going on so long, by the way.
It wasn’t much effort at all. It’s just a simple software installed to read programming numbers and to behave accordingly to the dictates of the ranges of those numbers. It just seems complicated because programming is tricky to explain to laymen.
@@itsjjstyles Yea well effort doesn't always equate to quality. The anti-cheat system must have got set off on countless people simply because their country turned its clocks back an hour...
I feel, like, legitimately personally betrayed by this information. So many days in my youth spent gleefully running up to the lottery board, wondering if today would finally be the lucky day...only to find out now that it's all a goddamn sham. ...oh, if the Pokemon trainer-ID lotteries turn out to have ALSO been rigged, I will be SO nettled.
Nah, they're not rigged. They're there to encourage trading with lots of people. The numbers *are* truly random, and since it checks every Pokemon in your PC, the more people you've traded with, the more likely you are to win the good prizes.
@@justsomegamer007 personally, I prefer 'niggled.' Basically the same meaning in this context, but sounds less like you're cleaning out your sinuses :D
THAT ACTUALLY HAPPEND TO ME WITH DAYLIGHT SAVINGS TIME !! legit I was like 12 I turned my game cube on and went into the menu to see if I had the right mem card in and my mom mentioned I should change the clock, so I did and well...… 500 coins … because I happened to be playing that game next.
daylight savings is an American thing, I bet the devs at Nintendo never even heard of such a tradition and never factored that in when making their anti-cheating scene.
@@Ed_man_talking9 it actually started in Britain - so it's a British thing that North America has adopted. But yes - Japanese developers probably had no reason to assume this would happen.
Not only did Nintendo intentionally make this lottery a scam, but they actually thought ahead and knew that people would get around it using the internal clock, so they decided to punish them for doing so. This has got to be one of the most bizarre things I’ve ever seen in a Mario game.
Wow, this was an unexpected treat! I’m one of the people that worked on the TTYD HD Texture Pack, and Lucky’s anger and explosion textures are things I never actually expected to see ingame. I wasn’t even aware Dolphin could replicate the menu of the Gamecube in a way that the game would recognize directly. I just did the textures for the sake of completion, but to actually see them in action when I never thought I would have the chance to feels so surreal!
Soooo.. In other words you're saying when doing a texture pack NEVER. LEAVE. OUT. A. SINGLE. TEXTURE BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE BREAKING GAMES FOR RUclips. Ok.
Jorge C. M. There is no question with is...it is a declaration. The three truths in this world, 1 we all die , 2 we all die alone, 3 Stryder will never notice you
@@GODOFAWSOMENESS1 last one I know is Pokemon heart gold and soul silver it isn't slots but is a different gambling game where you pay your in game money for bull shot chance's of winning and when u do u don't get shit
So I finally know why I was accused of cheating at this lottery game which I was only mildly interested in. I had absolutely no idea what he was going on about a 'clock' for, because I didn't realize he was talking about the Gamecube Clock, so of course I said I hadn't done anything even though Lucky was guilt tripping me and the game was strongly suggesting I had somehow done this. I don''t think I will ever remember the exact circumstances this happened under, beyond having just discovered the Game Cube clock and messing with it because I could. But like everyone is saying, Lucky, you're literally about to blow up at us for cheating when your lottery is rigged in such a way that we could even do this, and yet *WE'RE* the cheaters and if we were to own up to it(Even if we don't know what we actually did or that it was cheating) you will claim you can *Never Trust Another Person* and no matter what we now have to pay 500 coins to start things up again for everyone .............................................................................................................. *Only in Rougeport, people.*
Cheating at the Happy Lucky Lottery Crashes Paper Mario. OK not really, but Lucky threatens to do so. Honestly an immense overreaction if you ask me. _Never trust another person..._ _Never trust another person..._ _Never trust another person..._ Says the guy who started up a untrustworthy, scammy lottery game in the first place...
Wait, really? So does that mean for almost a year after the game's release, *no one knew what the first prize was* besides the dev team and anyone with inside knowledge? Also if anyone is curious, if you continue to lie about changing the clock, the next day Lucky will discover anyways thanks to the nearby Doogan.
Nevermind the lottery system, am I the only one impressed by how they included all that dialogue just in case someone figured out the system and manipulated the clock? Thats some serious dedication to your game.
Impressed, no. It's lazy programming, it was like "Hey dis bitch has a clock, let's use the clock." "Yeah but it's not an atomic clock bro, they could just change the date." "Just frighten the bejesus out of em if they try, I already came up with one whole idea on how the lottery could work, we can't go back to the drawing board now!"
If the current date is before the last ticket bough/read, the game wouldn't know how to handle it so they had to make something for it anyways to avoid an error or really weird values... they just decide to punish possible cheaters instead of just reset the values if that happen.
me: i've done it it's been 80 years but the game cube finally reached 2100 no going back or forward now, future child: wow grandpa that's so cool, *trips and hits the controller down* clock: *set back to 2001* happy lucky lottery guy: YOU'VE YEEd YOUR LAST HAW
"Never trust another person" said by the company that aggressively shuts down fangames, cancels tournaments for daring to be covid-friendly, and then releases a limited time collection of just three older mario games for the same price as their new games. Oh yeah, I went there. lol
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Why is the bomb so pissed off anyway? It’s supposed to be determined by random chance, so why would they be so upset you changed the time? They’re just exposing their fraudulent business practices
Like what was said in the video, the game can't check if you manually went forward in time or not. Yet it can check if you went backwards. Seeing as you get a new roll every day for a ""random"" number it means it could check to see if you manually tried to change the clock for a new roll. Though yeah now we know what *really* happens.. Turning the clock back isn't needed at all.
I suspected as much when I replayed the game 2 years ago. When I played it initially as a kid, I thought it was a random draw and that I was just unlucky, I was so happy when I won 3rd prize which was a massive deal. But playing the game in my adulthood, I wondered about how this worked and so I messed with the clock, I skipped ahead 1 day until I had won all prizes. That’s what got me interested, I did the same but logged the exact day count I won and I quickly realized that the days I won were within 5-10 days of each other and they line up perfectly with the range you displayed, it was then that I was reliably predicting the days I’d win in a save by jumping ahead and that’s when I realized this lottery was entirely scripted and you would never win before your preselected win date, very fascinating information and you definitely confirmed my suspicions more solidly than my guess and check method!
The clocked can go very far past 2099, but you can't MANUALLY set the clock past that time. There is no possible way to actually get an overflow without hacking. The clock can go all the up to the year 22592, but you can all set it to 2099. Meaning that you will have to wait at least 20,592 years to get an overflow.
Woah, that's brutal. I don't know about other players, but I played PM2 from start to end in maybe three days (Blockbuster rentals were pricy), and replayed a good five or six times over the years. Around a year of attempts for first place is just ludicrous. The only things obeying such a system should be applying it to pity wins, instead of just plain wins.
When I played the game, I think it at least took two weeks.... Also, based on the system, you can win the best prize simply by starting up the game a year later. So if you didn't get to play the game for a year, you have a chance for a big surprise.
Mr. Resetti scared me as a child, but if I saw this I would have never picked up the game again and probably would of had a meltdown on the spot. I was a very sensitive child... Well, I'm still very sensitive as an adult
@@marymurphy1429 I mean this is the same game that has intensely creepy music at the Creepy Steeple, so yeah probably not the best game for sensitive children.
Since the Lottery is exploitable like this, that means you can technically get the Lucky Day and Power Plus badges immediately after the lotter becomes available (after completing Chapter 1, but before starting Chapter 2). And since there's 16 or 17 star pieces available between Rogueport and Chapter 1, that means you can have 2 Power Plus badges throughout Chapter 2 and 3 (since Dazzle's only costs 15). I wonder how easy the chapters would be using both...
When I was kid my family and I went on a week long trip to Disney world. What they failed to say until we got back was my little cousins were at our house while we were gone. Pokemon cards were scattered throughout my room, my Bionicles were in a million pieces, etc...then came the GameCube. The internal clock was changed to 2071, save data was corrupted in several games, they manually went through and erased every save state in a couple games, etc. However with paper Mario I experienced the bomb omb asking me if I cheated. Genuinely confused why this was happening I assumed it was something RNG related I didn't know about and denied doing it since I quite literally didn't, then coughed up the 500 coins not knowing how to fix it. All these years it mystified me how that ever occurred and now I finally know. All these years later and haven't seen these cousins again, making this story my last interaction with them... Never got the chances to say fuck you to the two of them for breaking all my shit in summer of '07.
That thing about daylight savings time really bothered me a lot when I used to adjust the time on my 3DS. Even if I waited roughly a day, I'd get scolded by every single game that used the clock in some way and then would have to wait several days before they started working again. At least that's how I remember it, the last year or two I stopped doing that because it just gets in the way.
This is due to how the RTC (real-time clock) on the 3DS works. The actual time value doesn't matter, and is probably at some point in the 1970s or so on an unmodified system (no joke). Changing the time in initial system setup or in System Settings just changes an offset from the internal RTC time value. Games can easily detect changes to this offset and refuse to let you do daily things for however long until they've gotten over how Nintendo didn't include a DST flag in the Date/Time settings. Through homebrew, you can change the internal RTC time value directly to avoid being penalized since the offset stays the same.
Good news, remake players! Happy Lucky Lottery is no longer a scam! I won Third prize today, and I've only been playing this game for 3 days- no time traveling!
I love the characters being asleep when the science-y bits come up. It's great to have relaxing and non-obtrusive scenery while the important stuff gets explained, and it's a good joke worth repeating.
Wow, so not only did Nintendo include a rigged mini game, but they programmed the cheater to freak out and scream at you when he realizes you figured it out? I mean, I guess that's true to life but i'm not sure how I feel about having this included in a Mario game. What's more he doesn't get punished for cheating people out of their money with his scam. Nintendo is teaching some bad things there.
PiranhaCupcake I think that's supposed to be the irony here. That chubby Bob-omb calls us a cheater for reversing the clock, yet despite that the system was rigged from the start. Damn bastard.
@@FredChuck64 stop, the poor guy may not even know it's rigged, ut's rather just technical limitations. Anyway, the vid was interesting to see how the GameCube works!!!! 😍😍😍😍😉
"From where you're kneeling it must seem like an 18-carat run of bad luck. But, truth is... the game was rigged from the start." - Happy Lucky Lottery Bob-omb After Finding Out You Cheated
I feel like it would have been a lot easier just to make it all random. Just make the game generate a random number every time you get a ticket, and generate a random number for the board every day at midnight. No need to keep track of what day you bought the ticket, how long it's been since then, or what reward to give dependent on how long it's been, and no need to program in the Bob-omb guy's existential rage dialogue, the accompanying animations, or the flag that initiates it. Seems like a lot of work on the programmers' part.
Well you could still cheat the system by changing the clock a day forward to get a new number. Just you might run out of days before you win. Honestly not sure if hitting 1/9999 is more or less likely than someone using the same save file for a full year.
Michał Litwin It was explained in the video, the game divides the time when the board was checked and the system clock by a number (how much the system clock variable is incremented in 24 hours), then after rounding down it checks if the system clock value is greater. If it is, the game generates a new number and if it is somehow smaller, the game punishes you for cheating.
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meanwhile in the year 2572 "Hey look daddy! i found a blue cube in greqt great great great great great great great great great great great great grandpa's room!" "That's called a Gamecube, it can play games" **hooks it up** "Oh, it says it's the year 2018, better change that" **only goes up to year 2100** *_"wtf"_* **universe implodes on itself**
Fun Fact: If you play on a Wii, a new number is picked every time you restart the wii because of the clock system being different. Wonder what the hex data looks like when playing on a wii. There might be a failsafe in case the GCN Clock can't be read for whatever reason to the lottery being unintentionally disabled.
I actually played the game on my Wii years ago and saved the game back then using a real memory card. I then recently fired up TTYD on my GameCube and discovered the lottery was suspended. There's definitely something wrong between system clock times on both the GameCube and Wii. And believe it or not, I fired up the game on my GameCube yesterday. The last time I played the lottery was back in 2015-2016-ish on my Wii.
So that's why I've never even seen what fourth prize is. The game is hardcoded to never let you have it until you wait at least three days. Rather criminal that a Power Plus badge is locked behind first prize... So if you want to legitimately collect every badge in the game, you have to wait nearly a year. Or move the clock forward repeatedly. Good to know that you can move it forward with no penalty though; I was always afraid to try that. You'd think they'd check for moving it forward, considering that moving the clock back wouldn't seem to help win the game at all.
If it was animal crossing where you are supposed to play the game for like three years an argument can be made but like he said why would you play on t he same save file for almost a year always going to do the lottery?
@@bigblue344 Maybe it was always meant to be a joke, as others have said it's literally rigged but technically possible to win. Id like to believe it's that meta
To be super pedantic: In a fair random game, I'm pretty sure the probability of getting a number just one off from your own number is a lot closer to 1 in 5000, not 1 in 9000. This is because for any number you pick, there are two numbers that are one off from your number putting the probability at 2/9999 or pretty much 5000. Unless you got 0001 or 9999, but the probability of getting either of those AND getting one off from either of them is negligibly small--- 2*(1/9999)*(1/9999) or about 1 in 50 million.
To be fair, wouldn't buying a new ticket be completely useless even if it was randomized and thus obviously be a ripoff regardless? I mean, if it was truly a random generator, you'd have a 1/9999th chance of success no matter what. Seems like a fitting analogy for real lotteries anyway. This IS Rogueport.
Real lotteries don't reward you for waiting a year to win the jackpot. This is an investment. You wait for gains and can easily win within the average human lifetime here (even accounting for premature deaths). You cannot do that with a lottery.
So if you're playing this game naturally (not going for specific accomplishments like speed-runs, etc.), it's going to take you about a year to have a chance of winning top prize. Unless you're the Game Grumps, you've got no chance.
6:45 "Never trust another person... Never trust another person... Never trust another person..." Yeah,never trust big brown bomb and random "Don't press read more" comments.
Great stuff; the world must know how un-happy and un-lucky the Lottery really is.
As an aside, I'd be interested in knowing what happens if the in-game timer were to roll over mid-play session, but sadly, I don't have the 14,333 years of patience (after setting the system time to 2099-12-31, naturally) to test that empirically.
jdaster64 Wh- Bu- This video was just posted. Why does it say 15 hours ago?
How did you comment 15 hours ago???
Since he helped work on this, I gave him access to it when it was uploaded last night
Not sure how but in theory it's possible. When you hack the GameCube Clock Value in TTYD, it instantly jumps back to the GameCube system time. So you'd have to hack system time directly
Ayyy you're back!
"NEVER TRUST ANOTHER PERSON"
Says the guy running a *scam lottery* .
Well, as you said, it’s a scam. Therefore, he would absolutely say that to tie into the scam.
Maybe it was actually advice.
awesomestgamerboy Yeah, maybe it’s reverse psychology
I wanted him to do something *_deadly_*
This is outrageous. It's unfair
*Makes a lottery thats unwinable for several months*
Happy Lucky Lottery guy: YOU'RE the cheater!
Mario: "Hmmmm..."
🤔
*Thonks in Italian*
Technically several YEARS
Guy 888 no?
And I bet, if you do it just right, it crashes.
There's some concerning implications when toadette bursts into tears because she can't gamble...
Thank you for making me smile
yeah i can relate
yes cuz shes 9
@@jaquaviousquan since when
@@Eldoofus 9 years after she was born
I still can't get over how Lucky tries to guilt trip you with child gambling.
It’s the funniest thing
Nintendo did stuff like this A Lot back then. It's kind of baffling how things like this - or worse, Mr. Resetti - actually made it out the door at some point.
With Toadette lmao
> Game is called "Thousand Year Door"
> Can't play it for 1000 years without being called a cheater
that’s called cheating death
@@rocketdog734 Just because I'm cheating death doesn't mean I'm cheating TTYD.
Next video: _Cheating Paper Mario for 1,000 Years Is Okay._
Yes you can. Stryder calculates a 100 year distance (from 2000 to 2099) as about 128 quadrillion. So 1000 years would only be about 1.28 quintillion. And he lists the maximum values in a signed 64-bit integer as over 9 quintillion. So the value is perfectly in range. It wouldn't roll over to a negative for 7000 years or so (if my math is correct).
it apparently takes 1000 years to open a door.
how slow would someone have to be to be able to do that
Honestly, I kinda feel like the Happy Lucky Lottery being designed in such a way is actually kinda fitting, considering it's located in Rogueport, a town notorious for its thieves and pickpockets. Having a cheater manning the Lottery where he knows exactly how many days it'll be until you win, scamming you into buying more expensive tickets if you feel unsure about your current one just to reset the prize days, and then when you cheat the system, he guilt trips YOU and makes you buy a new ticket for a crazy price? That sounds exactly like something a lot of Rogueport's residents would do, lol.
Yeah, I'm very convinced that happy lucky lottery is a front for Don Pianta. That Bob-omb is up to some shady business.
Illuminati: DON’T MOVE
@DrTheKay what
DrTheKay You're an idiot lmao
@DrTheKay
...I think I found the guy who runs the Happy Lucky Lottery.
Paper Mario was doing daily loot chests 10 years before it was popular
Tell disney to remove the paper mario rights from nintendo.
@@Mama-Luigi Looks like it.
And toadette an underaged girl has been playing lottery.... great...
Gaming nowadays in a nutshell....
Don’t you mean daily *SURPRISE MECHANICS*
@@RockyKido No sorry sir I didnt ran her over, it was a surprise car massage.
the fact did Nintendo thought making the happy lucky lottery a scam like real lotteries was a good idea
Caelin Bevan i mean compared to 1 in 10000 it is pretty fair
Real lotteries are truly random
@@zacharymogel9087 yeah, but you know, wait a year to get a price always is way better than a 1 in 10 million possibility. In real life one person can win, but even if you play everyday in your entire life there's a great chance that you will never get the jackpot.
@@clokie6671 You could make it so that one digit is always the same as tge actual number, randomize the placement, and then randomize the other 3 digits. 1 in 100 should be doable while also being random
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Toadette shouldn't be playing the lottery anyway.
underage gambling?? toadette's parents should be ashamed of themselves
This must be why she got into treasure tracking with Captain Toad
@@Mama-Luigi I like both
@@Mama-Luigi huh, I could go for one too... hold on, where's Toad Servant #5492?
i mean, she's secretly evil, so it makes sense. for all we know she's running the lottery behind the scenes, and is upset that it was cancelled because she can't steal anyone's money that day.
warning: this video contains extreme amounts of *betrayal,* _deception,_ and *_abandonment._* watch at your own risk
-abandonment-
Is that a Carykh reference I see?
@@pumpkincat8336 I just realized.
Cary kills Hitler?
Why was this funny?
To be honest, even if it was a scam, I still think Lucky's breakdown when you cheat could be terrifying to a kid not knowing what could happen.
DreamLandBuds it has strong creepypasta vibes
reminds me of Mr Resetti
It was very unsettling to me just as some random stoned 25 year old who's never played this game
Basically DDLC 0.5
Not only would it have terrified me as a kid, but it would also cause me to cry for hours and never want to touch the game again.
I might be being way too serious here, but honestly, I don't like this kind of stuff in video games. As someone who was a very sensitive, fearful child that cried at the drop of a hat, I find this sort of thing...cruel and vindictive. Obviously, kids need to be taught not to do certain things, and sometimes they need to experience the consequences of their actions, but...this just seems unnecessary to me.
*game has an unwinnable lottery system, but lies about it
*player changes the clock back casually
*game freaks out and decides to NEVER trust people again
well, that's.... ironic
Wrong company game freak made pokemon
@Carrot But seriously. Imagine this kind of thing in a Pokémon game.
@@bubbykins4864 well, in pokemon ORAS for the 3DS you can't hunt for legandaries for 24 hours if you move it back or forward a day so it sorta has it.
@@rubycrystals3422 That's because GF doesn't want you to fuck around to get daily events multiple times. That included the free lottery draw
I dont think Lucky knows it's a scam. That freakout seemed genuine.
In way, the lottery being a scam makes sense. You are playing said lottery in a place called 'Rogueport'. A place where almost everyone has some form of shady dealings going on and likely wouldn't think twice about cheating people out of their money in one way or another.
So it's all in character? Interesting
Yes, that's pretty much what I'm saying. XD
...Wow, that actually makes a lot of sense. Never thought of it like that, I just assumed that Lucky was being a jerk for the laughs. I mean, I guess that explains why he's literally just a recolor of an already existing enemy.
Except the fact that the lottery working in this way actually gives you an increased chance of winning, so it's actually a generous thing
Only in time... and there's no real way of knowing this without testing the system extensively yourself or, as shown in this video, pretty much looking into what's going on behind the scenes in the game with the lottery.
holy crap that's terrifying (when turning back the clock)
Wait.
Do I talk to him AFTER setting the clock 90 years ahead of time?
Do it anyway.
That bit made Resetti look tame and polite in comparison
Colin McClintick ikr
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THAT'S IT! NO MORE HAPPY LUCKY LOTTERY EVER, BOOM! *Booooooooom*
Woo! I thought I'd see you here
Will this knowledge every help me in my everyday life?
probably not.
Am I gonna remember this knowledge till the day I die?
You better believe it.
And it's the exact opposite for knowledge that will help us in our everyday lives.
I found that statistics was one of the most useful classes I ever took.
So, by proxy, understanding how gambling and gambling scams work is helpful, especially since it's one of the most lucrative (and therefore prolific) rackets in the world.
It also made me a much better equities trader, since probabilities are the difference between stacking wins vs. stacking losses.
Just like real college!
I like your Remilia profile picture
"Son, let me tell you something."
"Yes, dad?"
"Happy Lucky Lottery is a scam."
"What."
*Dad dies*
I love how Mario is completely panicking while the bob-omb is having his meltdown, yet Vivian doesn't give a single fuck
Vivian is just calmly smiling like "this is fine"
@@JetFalcon710 she probably went through worse due to her sisters
"This is nothing compared to Beldam"
Nah she just knows that one of them knows vanish, spoiler: it ain’t Mario
@@someguywithatophat7599 His*
When you haven’t played this game in years but sit through a 13 minute analysts on a feature you never used.
shawn emmanuel When you have never played this game, or any of the series, but have watched most of the videos on this channel
NPC ha! That's me too
When you’ve never played this game at all. And never seen a play through of it and still watch this video
More like 'haven't played the game in years, watched gamegrumps comp, then watched this for 5 minutes and lost interest after he goes into the math behind that hex values'
I do not own or played or watched a play though of this
Let me get this straight. They put a minigame thing in that requires you to play a single player casual RPG for almost a year to get the most useful item. They presented it as if it was random chance, not even letting you know you literally have to do a "daily login" for almost a year to win first prize. It's only possible to find out how it works through hacking. They then put in some kind of punishment for circumventing this ridiculous thing?
What the fuck devs.
I mean, by modern standards this is par for the course, it's just really bloody weird that Nintendo of all people was doing this so many years ahead, and without having a pay 2 win method of circumventing it.
Kinda justifies just hacking both badges in.
That's what I did
It is just one way to get the badges, theyre available in other easier ways in the game
@@A.B.I.MA. ah, I what I understood from the video was that Lucky Day and Power Plus were only available here, but rewatching I see that they are only available here ONCE.
I got the cheater message as a kid and it scared the crap out of me. Literally scarred me. lol
Mr. Resetti in Animal Crossing is worse.
@@spicygurl3862 explain pls
@@spicygurl3862 yeah what are you talking about?
@@thatxonexguy5438 Sonic cd has a secret screen. Search 'sonic cd secrets' to get the point.
@@Mateo-vz4fl Sonic cd's infamous secret screen.
People are going to have a hard time playing on their Game Cubes in the 22nd century.
No they won't, just set the time to 2050
There's most likely already a patch today you could use to manually allow yourself to change the GC clock past any year dude.
@@colleenflattery4755 no it goes higher but you can't manually change it to do that. If you I don't know watched the video you'd see that it does that.
Considering AV is dead now, how dead will it be then?
Jo Seph GD I mean there are a lot of mod guides for HDMI gamecubes, you can find some on ebay for pretty cheap anyway, and I’m sure something similar will be available in the future for whatever succeeds what we have now
The house always wins.
Except within 335-395 days of your first visit to a casino.
But other than that... the house ALWAYS wins.
fenneko best girl
Ring-a-ding, baby.
unspoken, but accurate is that it makes the badge a minimum of 3,350 coins. that's if you are super lucky. If you are less lucky, it could be almost 4000 coins.
and this guy gets on YOUR case for cheating...
Hire Don Pianta's men to get him
well its not cheating if you take the time backwards not forwards
Me: ...
Me: _pours water on the fuze_
@@YourSincerestStranger *How to do italics, lol?* But seriously, how?
Lil percy with this _before and after whatever you want to italicize like this _ hi _ without the spaces. _italics_
Welcome back!!
Yea but for how long is the real question
Is that a gamer
But don't you see? He was e v a l u a t i n g ALL THIS TIME!
Hey SimpleFlips, cool verified checkmark
shoutout to simpleflips
This reminds me of something similar in Yokai watch. If the game detects you screwed around with the system clock, it increases the chances of a brutally powerful boss spawning in. There’s just one flaw: half the time, the reason you were messing with the clock will be in an area that he can’t spawn, and the other half you’re specifically doing it so you can fight him, all the while chances are only increased, and is still rng based if he spawns or not. And the final problem: you are still entirely capable of sneaking away from the boss for no penalty, and you can get rare items while doing so.
Which boss are you talking about again? I can think of two or three different bosses you might be talking about and I want to ensure I don't get it wrong.
@@matthewsanii4919 any of the terror time oni.
To make things worse, sometimes it’s not even your fault, as if the 3DS runs out of battery, the clock resets, activating the anti cheat all because you left your 3DS on for too long without charging it
And then in the later games he just yells at you and disables the crank a kai for 2 days, still completely unsympathetic to anyone who has to suffer through daylight savings
Back in my day, I was known as the king of birthdays in my Animal Crossing town...
cool
nice
how did you know I was just listening to that song wtf
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Hi Swanky! I watch your channel. Also, back when I was addicted to Animal Crossing new leaf, I would just do everything I could do on that day, then I would quit and advance the time by one day at about 10 in the morning and keep playing. It was a real addiction there for a while though, the only addiction I can honestly say I had. I can play Animal Crossing responsibly now though. ;)
Wow, okay, that “cheater punishment” is legitimately terrifying.
If you do it again he kills you
He screams and Mario bleeds photorealistic blood
.....You think that, since Mario is made of paper, he bleeds red paper? I mean that would make sense.
@@Dustin_VG nah. He explodes and ruins your game
It's pretty creepy, I was actually a bit unsettled by it
Biggest financial scandals:
2017: Panama Papers
2018: Happy Lucky Lottery
No Tea Kettle.... Or even like, Marta Stewarts' insider trading?
@@XRatedPoetry I was drawing blanks! 😅
Don't forget _Yoshi's Tax Fraud_.
Edit: Wtf why can't I italicize my text?
Panama Papers were published on April 3rd 2016
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I just love how vivian is smiling during the whole breakdown of the host like "this is fine"..
She's used to this sort of thing by now, thanx to her sisters.
Vivian is probably used to it by now.
@@boomkittyFX Used to what, exactly? Not being able to trust people? I thought that's why she's one of Mario's party members?
@@shawnfields2369 verbal beat downs. Her eldest sister was an awful person to her but was nice to the one who couldn’t speak.
@@GODOFAWSOMENESS1 Yeah, I remember. Beldam was always nice to Marilyn, but not Vivian, which is why she went and joined Mario's party, and helped beat up her sisters, at least until the end of the game, where everyone is messaging Mario about how they're doing, since Mario and his friends defeated the Shadow Queen, and Goombella mentions that Vivian and her sisters are getting along well, and that they're actually acting like a family, and are treating each other nicely. Which I didn't expect, since Beldam was the one who basically lead Grodus to the Shadow Queen's grave so he could bring her back, using Princess Peach's body as a sacrifice(holy crap, that might be the darkest plot in a Paper Mario game I've ever heard), and even though it looks like she killed Grodus, even after he gets zapped by the Shadow Queen, he's still alive, he's just a hopping metal head thingy now. And the computer that was in love with the Princess, is also brought back; and the X-Nauts stop being evil, and Vivian and her sisters agree to act like a family, and for some reason, every female friend of Mario's reveal that they were in love with Mario(probably because ladies love the 'stache, am I right?), but damn, this game might have the best plot of any Mario game ever. Also the darkest. Super Paper Mario is also a contender, but this game came out first, although I won't lie, SPM's plot does have just as good characters, plot, gameplay, character development, and villain backstory, like Mr. L, Dimentio, Count Bleck, Mimi(the creepy spider girl), and even a good reason for Dimentio to betray Bleck after it's over, and he becomes Super Dimentio. It's more of a traditional Mario RPG, but it works. Plus, you team up with Bowser, Peach, and Luigi! For almost the whole adventure. And when your companion sacrifices herself at the end, well, I'll admit, I may have shed a tear or 2. But why can't Paper Mario games just be as good as The Thousand-Year-Door or Super Paper Mario? I mean, if you liked the other Paper Mario games, that's perfectly fine, I'm only saying, I just think more people wanted an experience like the first 3 Paper Mario games is all. Sorry this has been going on so long, by the way.
I love that the bomb gets so mad at you for playing unfair. What a hypocrite.
Graham Merph "What? The Lottery? UNFAIR?! I would never do that!"
-A cheating bob-omb
ea was founded in rogueport
bangasou12 I died laughing at this comment
Please, even the worst of Rogueport look at EA with disgust for what they do.
Yeet
to be honest that adds up
So much effort was put into half-assed anti-cheating detection and a dramatic cutscene, but none into actually making a legit lottery.
Considering lotteries are scams by themselves, I would say they actually put a lot of effort in it...
not really half-assed if they put effort into it, is it?
It wasn’t much effort at all. It’s just a simple software installed to read programming numbers and to behave accordingly to the dictates of the ranges of those numbers.
It just seems complicated because programming is tricky to explain to laymen.
@@itsjjstyles Yea well effort doesn't always equate to quality. The anti-cheat system must have got set off on countless people simply because their country turned its clocks back an hour...
@@taleladar effort doesnt have to equal quality
I feel, like, legitimately personally betrayed by this information.
So many days in my youth spent gleefully running up to the lottery board, wondering if today would finally be the lucky day...only to find out now that it's all a goddamn sham.
...oh, if the Pokemon trainer-ID lotteries turn out to have ALSO been rigged, I will be SO nettled.
Nah, they're not rigged. They're there to encourage trading with lots of people. The numbers *are* truly random, and since it checks every Pokemon in your PC, the more people you've traded with, the more likely you are to win the good prizes.
God do I love the word 'nettled'
@@justsomegamer007 personally, I prefer 'niggled.' Basically the same meaning in this context, but sounds less like you're cleaning out your sinuses :D
Ah, well. Life's a bitch, and then you crash Paper Mario.
"Cheating in Lucky Lottery crashes Paper Mario."
STRYDER7X IS BACK, THIS IS NOT A DRILL, I REPEAT, THIS IS NOT A DRILL!
*Y E S*
WOOOOO
lol
~takes the cake out of the oven~
Finally done!
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THAT ACTUALLY HAPPEND TO ME WITH DAYLIGHT SAVINGS TIME !! legit I was like 12 I turned my game cube on and went into the menu to see if I had the right mem card in and my mom mentioned I should change the clock, so I did and well...… 500 coins … because I happened to be playing that game next.
I was thinking when he explained that - what about DST?
daylight savings is an American thing, I bet the devs at Nintendo never even heard of such a tradition and never factored that in when making their anti-cheating scene.
@@Ed_man_talking9 it actually started in Britain - so it's a British thing that North America has adopted.
But yes - Japanese developers probably had no reason to assume this would happen.
DST is a European thing too.
Many nations follow DST, but Japan doesn't. It's actually a little weird, because most places that don't are on the equator, but Japan isn't.
Not only did Nintendo intentionally make this lottery a scam, but they actually thought ahead and knew that people would get around it using the internal clock, so they decided to punish them for doing so.
This has got to be one of the most bizarre things I’ve ever seen in a Mario game.
Imagine doing something like this in GameCube Animal Crossing, we would’ve all been screwed.
@@malevolentsnow9867 Isn't that what Resetti is?
@@bluishwolf woosh
If how Nintendo is now is indicative of how it was back then then it's not that bizarre
Wow, this was an unexpected treat!
I’m one of the people that worked on the TTYD HD Texture Pack, and Lucky’s anger and explosion textures are things I never actually expected to see ingame. I wasn’t even aware Dolphin could replicate the menu of the Gamecube in a way that the game would recognize directly. I just did the textures for the sake of completion, but to actually see them in action when I never thought I would have the chance to feels so surreal!
Did you really? That’s awesome, thanks so much for contributing! Hope it gets finished someday :)
Soooo..
In other words you're saying when doing a texture pack NEVER. LEAVE. OUT. A. SINGLE. TEXTURE BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE BREAKING GAMES FOR RUclips.
Ok.
@@farixguardian Not even for YT
Paper Mario and the 100 year gamecube clock...
What in the god damn-
Why hello there, handsome.
>Stryder will never tuck me in and tell me bed-time stories about Paper Mario coding
why even live
you forgot a question mark
With cute paper mario music in the background
Jorge C. M. There is no question with is...it is a declaration.
The three truths in this world, 1 we all die , 2 we all die alone, 3 Stryder will never notice you
this is more like nintendo SCREAMING AT YOU to just not gamble
lootboxes
That’s rich considering Nintendo made Hanafunda cards way back when. Ya know. A card game with gambling?
@Crystal Kanashii something something something minimalistic satisfaction conditioning
Solura don’t forget that the first few Generations of Pokémon had gambling.
@@GODOFAWSOMENESS1 last one I know is Pokemon heart gold and soul silver it isn't slots but is a different gambling game where you pay your in game money for bull shot chance's of winning and when u do u don't get shit
So I finally know why I was accused of cheating at this lottery game which I was only mildly interested in. I had absolutely no idea what he was going on about a 'clock' for, because I didn't realize he was talking about the Gamecube Clock, so of course I said I hadn't done anything even though Lucky was guilt tripping me and the game was strongly suggesting I had somehow done this.
I don''t think I will ever remember the exact circumstances this happened under, beyond having just discovered the Game Cube clock and messing with it because I could. But like everyone is saying, Lucky, you're literally about to blow up at us for cheating when your lottery is rigged in such a way that we could even do this, and yet *WE'RE* the cheaters and if we were to own up to it(Even if we don't know what we actually did or that it was cheating) you will claim you can *Never Trust Another Person* and no matter what we now have to pay 500 coins to start things up again for everyone ..............................................................................................................
*Only in Rougeport, people.*
Someone make a TTYD hack where you fight Lucky, that scammer deserves punishment.
Yeah!
Cheating at the Happy Lucky Lottery Crashes Paper Mario.
OK not really, but Lucky threatens to do so. Honestly an immense overreaction if you ask me.
_Never trust another person..._
_Never trust another person..._
_Never trust another person..._
Says the guy who started up a untrustworthy, scammy lottery game in the first place...
Genius.
The year 2100 must be a legendary promise land for Mr. Ressette and Happy Lucky Lottery Bomba.
Wait, really?
So does that mean for almost a year after the game's release, *no one knew what the first prize was* besides the dev team and anyone with inside knowledge?
Also if anyone is curious, if you continue to lie about changing the clock, the next day Lucky will discover anyways thanks to the nearby Doogan.
You step into a town with a name like Rogueport and a grifter can't even have respect for another grift. I tell you kids these days
Nevermind the lottery system, am I the only one impressed by how they included all that dialogue just in case someone figured out the system and manipulated the clock? Thats some serious dedication to your game.
Impressed, no. It's lazy programming, it was like "Hey dis bitch has a clock, let's use the clock."
"Yeah but it's not an atomic clock bro, they could just change the date."
"Just frighten the bejesus out of em if they try, I already came up with one whole idea on how the lottery could work, we can't go back to the drawing board now!"
I did! You have to encode a specific way to get it in.
Not really. Just save an 64-bit integer that tells the time on save, then check that compared to the current time when you talk to the NPC.
And I will forever love TTYD for little things like this!
If the current date is before the last ticket bough/read, the game wouldn't know how to handle it
so they had to make something for it anyways to avoid an error or really weird values...
they just decide to punish possible cheaters instead of just reset the values if that happen.
Holy crap, that random bomb dialogue just solidifies how awesome TTYD really is.
I remember seeing it as a kid and being pretty damn terrified. TTYD is truly a gem.
TTYD is decent, but I'm sure there are more and better textboxes in this game
Best game of all time
I 100% the game back in the day and had no idea that dialogue existed how cool. Love these videos.
Be my friend I saw you on a puffin forest video
me: i've done it it's been 80 years but the game cube finally reached 2100 no going back or forward now,
future child: wow grandpa that's so cool, *trips and hits the controller down*
clock: *set back to 2001*
happy lucky lottery guy: YOU'VE YEEd YOUR LAST HAW
@Furret And Sylveon Animations Nope, GameCube clock only goes up to 2099. to be fair, that's only a year-long wait but still.
@Furret And Sylveon Animations I forget if you can change it to that, But I suppose if you could that would speed things up.
@@Swordsoulreaver it literally shows that in the video
Damn that host's reaction was starting to get close to creepypasta territory
Imagine going to another time zone
Changing the clock
And waking up to this
5:55
Anger
"I cant believe I spent this long talking about a sign..."
- *4 years of Paper Mario content*
"NEVER TRUST ANOTHER PERSON"
And there the player is, giving you another chance... Scamming hypocrite
I WANT BOOM!!!
GIMME BOOM!!!
“NEVER TRUST ANOTHER PERSON”
LITERALLY OK BOOMER!
But can i trust John W/Barosa?
"Never trust another person" said by the company that aggressively shuts down fangames, cancels tournaments for daring to be covid-friendly, and then releases a limited time collection of just three older mario games for the same price as their new games.
Oh yeah, I went there. lol
@@UBvtuber Glad you went there
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Team LAN
He shouldn’t scam people in order to make them trust you
literally me
For kids!
CAN’T TAKE THIS CAN’T TAKE THIS CAN’T TAKE THIS NO
CAN’T TAKE THIS CAN’T TAKE THIS CAN’T TAKE THIS NO
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Watched all your videos when you were gone and glad you’re back.
When you go back, the game becomes Happy Lucky Literature club
i'm choking SDSDS
Haha
I was thinking that too
Why is the bomb so pissed off anyway? It’s supposed to be determined by random chance, so why would they be so upset you changed the time? They’re just exposing their fraudulent business practices
Like what was said in the video, the game can't check if you manually went forward in time or not. Yet it can check if you went backwards. Seeing as you get a new roll every day for a ""random"" number it means it could check to see if you manually tried to change the clock for a new roll.
Though yeah now we know what *really* happens.. Turning the clock back isn't needed at all.
The fact that Vivian just stood there watching Mario losing balance because of a chubby bomb is just hilarious
He’s still alive
I suspected as much when I replayed the game 2 years ago. When I played it initially as a kid, I thought it was a random draw and that I was just unlucky, I was so happy when I won 3rd prize which was a massive deal. But playing the game in my adulthood, I wondered about how this worked and so I messed with the clock, I skipped ahead 1 day until I had won all prizes.
That’s what got me interested, I did the same but logged the exact day count I won and I quickly realized that the days I won were within 5-10 days of each other and they line up perfectly with the range you displayed, it was then that I was reliably predicting the days I’d win in a save by jumping ahead and that’s when I realized this lottery was entirely scripted and you would never win before your preselected win date, very fascinating information and you definitely confirmed my suspicions more solidly than my guess and check method!
If the GCN clock were to overflow from 2099 to 2000, things wouldn’t go well for the lottery.
Y2K for Happy Lucky Lottery?
The clocked can go very far past 2099, but you can't MANUALLY set the clock past that time. There is no possible way to actually get an overflow without hacking. The clock can go all the up to the year 22592, but you can all set it to 2099. Meaning that you will have to wait at least 20,592 years to get an overflow.
Waiting 20,592 years crashes Paper Mario
Did they really think people would check the game every day for an entire year just so they get a badge?
And in the same file where you can do everything in a month tops if you aren't playing it constantly? What's the point?
What else do you expect from a town like rogueport
Guess my plan to fast forward a thousand years to bypass the thousand year door won't work... 🤔
AbomiYeti big brain
Woah, that's brutal. I don't know about other players, but I played PM2 from start to end in maybe three days (Blockbuster rentals were pricy), and replayed a good five or six times over the years. Around a year of attempts for first place is just ludicrous. The only things obeying such a system should be applying it to pity wins, instead of just plain wins.
William Shreckengost umm well my uncle closed the last one in alaska a little bit ago... 😞 but its cool to think about Kevin closing the last one
Vlogging Gabes What the fuck are you talking about
@@joshkary5040 Blockbuster
When I played the game, I think it at least took two weeks.... Also, based on the system, you can win the best prize simply by starting up the game a year later. So if you didn't get to play the game for a year, you have a chance for a big surprise.
6:25 imagine being a kid and seeing this in the middle of the night. Miyamoto has some serious issues.
What about the 3:33pm TV Easter egg for animal crossing?
Akis A that’s at least slightly harder to find. Or at least less noticeable.
@@Vulpes_Ailurus its still spoopy
Mr. Resetti scared me as a child, but if I saw this I would have never picked up the game again and probably would of had a meltdown on the spot. I was a very sensitive child... Well, I'm still very sensitive as an adult
@@marymurphy1429 I mean this is the same game that has intensely creepy music at the Creepy Steeple, so yeah probably not the best game for sensitive children.
Since the Lottery is exploitable like this, that means you can technically get the Lucky Day and Power Plus badges immediately after the lotter becomes available (after completing Chapter 1, but before starting Chapter 2). And since there's 16 or 17 star pieces available between Rogueport and Chapter 1, that means you can have 2 Power Plus badges throughout Chapter 2 and 3 (since Dazzle's only costs 15). I wonder how easy the chapters would be using both...
Which lottery isn’t a scam?
^
True.
Top 10 questions science still can't answer
ExE Boss shut it down
*the one you win*
But does it crash Paper Mario?
It does, after 14,333 years of waiting and setting the clock to 2099 when we’re actually in 2018.
Science.
No, but punching a Sonic 3D Blast cartridge might.
GOD FUCKING DAMMIT I HATE BEING BEATEN TO THE JOKE LOL
dead meme
No but Lucky will... if you pull the cheater stunt a second time it results in a Game Over. An overlooked fact about this whole scenario.
When I was kid my family and I went on a week long trip to Disney world. What they failed to say until we got back was my little cousins were at our house while we were gone.
Pokemon cards were scattered throughout my room, my Bionicles were in a million pieces, etc...then came the GameCube.
The internal clock was changed to 2071, save data was corrupted in several games, they manually went through and erased every save state in a couple games, etc.
However with paper Mario I experienced the bomb omb asking me if I cheated. Genuinely confused why this was happening I assumed it was something RNG related I didn't know about and denied doing it since I quite literally didn't, then coughed up the 500 coins not knowing how to fix it.
All these years it mystified me how that ever occurred and now I finally know.
All these years later and haven't seen these cousins again, making this story my last interaction with them...
Never got the chances to say fuck you to the two of them for breaking all my shit in summer of '07.
6:30 That looks like something from a creepypasta.
Yeah, honestly.
If a kid wrote that and posted it, a group of grown ass men would gang up on him and bully him for it.
Do you really think *THATS* scary?
Möbius 1 It’s not that he thinks it’s scary, but it’s that he thinks it would be in some weird creepypasta.
That thing about daylight savings time really bothered me a lot when I used to adjust the time on my 3DS. Even if I waited roughly a day, I'd get scolded by every single game that used the clock in some way and then would have to wait several days before they started working again. At least that's how I remember it, the last year or two I stopped doing that because it just gets in the way.
Eewww that that bulbasaur and mudkip combination.
@@Dougy heh, yeah usually when people comment on it they either say it's ugly or adorable.
I have been saying its ugly for months. You may not remember me lol
This is due to how the RTC (real-time clock) on the 3DS works. The actual time value doesn't matter, and is probably at some point in the 1970s or so on an unmodified system (no joke). Changing the time in initial system setup or in System Settings just changes an offset from the internal RTC time value. Games can easily detect changes to this offset and refuse to let you do daily things for however long until they've gotten over how Nintendo didn't include a DST flag in the Date/Time settings.
Through homebrew, you can change the internal RTC time value directly to avoid being penalized since the offset stays the same.
Thanks, that explains it.
I like how Vivian just quietly watches while Lucky is having his mental breakdown and Mario is waving his arms freaking out.
She's a ghost, giant Bobomb, what does it mean to her when she's already dead?
Bobomb used Explosion!
It doesn't affect Vivian...
Good news, remake players! Happy Lucky Lottery is no longer a scam! I won Third prize today, and I've only been playing this game for 3 days- no time traveling!
Great to see you back!
I love the characters being asleep when the science-y bits come up. It's great to have relaxing and non-obtrusive scenery while the important stuff gets explained, and it's a good joke worth repeating.
5:24
Holy crap, I've never known that. My mind was completely blown away by that.
Me at 12:00am: Oh man I need to go to bed I've got an exam tomorrow
RUclips: Happy Lucky Lottery is a Scam
Wow, so not only did Nintendo include a rigged mini game, but they programmed the cheater to freak out and scream at you when he realizes you figured it out? I mean, I guess that's true to life but i'm not sure how I feel about having this included in a Mario game. What's more he doesn't get punished for cheating people out of their money with his scam. Nintendo is teaching some bad things there.
PiranhaCupcake
I think that's supposed to be the irony here.
That chubby Bob-omb calls us a cheater for reversing the clock, yet despite that the system was rigged from the start.
Damn bastard.
It’s not that deep
@@FredChuck64 stop, the poor guy may not even know it's rigged, ut's rather just technical limitations. Anyway, the vid was interesting to see how the GameCube works!!!! 😍😍😍😍😉
I mean, they aren't teaching anything like that unless you know the system is rigged, which was pretty obscure until now.
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A STRYDER VIDEO
Welcome back
This Stryder is much better than the OTHER Stryder on RUclips...
"From where you're kneeling it must seem like an 18-carat run of bad luck.
But, truth is... the game was rigged from the start."
- Happy Lucky Lottery Bob-omb After Finding Out You Cheated
I thought that was Benny form New Vegas? :P
I remember that seen when you get shot in the face by a literal bomb
@@thecoolcario9048
Nah bro Lina from NFS: Payback said that
NeptunianLucario5
R/woooosh!
Or... is that a joke too?
Lucky: *loads gun* "THIS IS IT, MARIO!"
>Scamming people out of their money with your game
>Complaining when people cheat on your game
wut
Hey, sounds like every greedy AAA publisher these days.
@@hfactor66 That bob-omb is the precursor to all of those.
I feel like it would have been a lot easier just to make it all random. Just make the game generate a random number every time you get a ticket, and generate a random number for the board every day at midnight. No need to keep track of what day you bought the ticket, how long it's been since then, or what reward to give dependent on how long it's been, and no need to program in the Bob-omb guy's existential rage dialogue, the accompanying animations, or the flag that initiates it. Seems like a lot of work on the programmers' part.
Well you could still cheat the system by changing the clock a day forward to get a new number. Just you might run out of days before you win.
Honestly not sure if hitting 1/9999 is more or less likely than someone using the same save file for a full year.
@@chfourchfour ... That's pretty much what he just said...
Michał Litwin It was explained in the video, the game divides the time when the board was checked and the system clock by a number (how much the system clock variable is incremented in 24 hours), then after rounding down it checks if the system clock value is greater. If it is, the game generates a new number and if it is somehow smaller, the game punishes you for cheating.
Can confirm, happened to me as a child and was terrifying as all heck
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How about no
How About Yes
This fucks with my mind
Waluigi Scapelli DDLC PRE-ALPHA
BECOME AS GODS
BECOME AS GODS
meanwhile in the year 2572
"Hey look daddy! i found a blue cube in greqt great great great great great great great great great great great great grandpa's room!"
"That's called a Gamecube, it can play games"
**hooks it up**
"Oh, it says it's the year 2018, better change that"
**only goes up to year 2100**
*_"wtf"_*
**universe implodes on itself**
Yeah, but you’re screwed if you try to change it.
It will probably say it's year 2000, as the battery to keep the clock running would likely have run dry
Meanwhile in the year 2572 thats just 20 years after halos' events take place
More like:
*attempts to hook it up*
(entire system crumbles to dust in the process, several spiders and a small mouse emerge from the remains)
@@8-bitnicolai5*spiders and mouse crumble into dust
I love when the Bomb Omb is freaking out, Mario is panicking but Vivian is just standing there fine with it.
Fun Fact: If you play on a Wii, a new number is picked every time you restart the wii because of the clock system being different.
Wonder what the hex data looks like when playing on a wii. There might be a failsafe in case the GCN Clock can't be read for whatever reason to the lottery being unintentionally disabled.
That's weird. I would have thought the clock works the same.
Does this mean that it's impossible to win prizes if you play on a Wii?
I actually played the game on my Wii years ago and saved the game back then using a real memory card. I then recently fired up TTYD on my GameCube and discovered the lottery was suspended. There's definitely something wrong between system clock times on both the GameCube and Wii. And believe it or not, I fired up the game on my GameCube yesterday. The last time I played the lottery was back in 2015-2016-ish on my Wii.
To think in 82 years we won't be able to cheat happy lucky lottery anymore.. Brings a tear to my eye
So that's why I've never even seen what fourth prize is.
The game is hardcoded to never let you have it until you wait at least three days.
Rather criminal that a Power Plus badge is locked behind first prize... So if you want to legitimately collect every badge in the game, you have to wait nearly a year. Or move the clock forward repeatedly. Good to know that you can move it forward with no penalty though; I was always afraid to try that. You'd think they'd check for moving it forward, considering that moving the clock back wouldn't seem to help win the game at all.
If it was animal crossing where you are supposed to play the game for like three years an argument can be made but like he said why would you play on t he same save file for almost a year always going to do the lottery?
@@bigblue344 Maybe it was always meant to be a joke, as others have said it's literally rigged but technically possible to win. Id like to believe it's that meta
There is another way to collect a power plus badge
Call me crazy, but wasnt there a power up badge in one of the chests in the parrot room in the castle of doopliss?
Max Power or steel it from an enemy with miss mouse
6:20 Happy Lucky Lottery is being peddling to *children* ?
...yes..........IT SHOULD BE SHUT DOWN FOREVER
Uploading a video a year later crashes RUclips
truth is...
the game was totally rigged from the start
ring a ding ding, baby
What in the GOD DAMN?
Let's keep this cool baby. Hello!
Sekai no Gamu
You’ve stepped into an eighteen karat run of bad luck.
Smooth moves smoooooth
6:29 I love how Vivian is just completely calm during the bomb's mental breakdown.
To be super pedantic:
In a fair random game, I'm pretty sure the probability of getting a number just one off from your own number is a lot closer to 1 in 5000, not 1 in 9000. This is because for any number you pick, there are two numbers that are one off from your number putting the probability at 2/9999 or pretty much 5000. Unless you got 0001 or 9999, but the probability of getting either of those AND getting one off from either of them is negligibly small--- 2*(1/9999)*(1/9999) or about 1 in 50 million.
To be fair, wouldn't buying a new ticket be completely useless even if it was randomized and thus obviously be a ripoff regardless? I mean, if it was truly a random generator, you'd have a 1/9999th chance of success no matter what. Seems like a fitting analogy for real lotteries anyway. This IS Rogueport.
Was your hiatus to learn the glitches and glitching community of TTYD?
It's just like the lotteries in real life, a tax on the stupid. I say they emulated lotterys perfectly.
@@crimchow well you know something: you will win... someday... maybe a refund for your ticket, but hey that's a win i guess.
Real lotteries don't reward you for waiting a year to win the jackpot. This is an investment. You wait for gains and can easily win within the average human lifetime here (even accounting for premature deaths). You cannot do that with a lottery.
Statistically, 100% of gamblers give up right before hitting it big
@@banjo304 Statistically, 99% of comments are copied from other popular comments, such as yours.
@@banjo304 Statistically, 99% of comments are copied from other popular comments, such as yours.
So if you're playing this game naturally (not going for specific accomplishments like speed-runs, etc.), it's going to take you about a year to have a chance of winning top prize.
Unless you're the Game Grumps, you've got no chance.
6:45 "Never trust another person...
Never trust another person...
Never trust another person..."
Yeah,never trust big brown bomb and random
"Don't press read more" comments.
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*20sec of victim scrolling down*
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6:02 I remember this scared my friend when he set the clock back for Daylight Saving Time, lol
DAYLIGHT SAVINGS IS FOR NOOBS
Yeah and school ends a hour early when covid wasn't around
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A lottery is a scam? Wow, whod've guessed
Real life lottery is at least well regulated.
I love how this dude is about to explode and is having an existential crisis, and Vivian is just like “This is fine”.