Buddy Holly's "That'll Be the Day" - The Complete True Tale

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  • Опубликовано: 10 янв 2024
  • “That’ll Be the Day” was Buddy Holly’s first big hit and is one of the records that helped define the sound of rock and roll. But did you know that Buddy had to violate his contract with Decca Records and resort to subterfuge to get the record out so the world could hear it? This is the full story behind the song, first recorded in Nashville, then again in Clovis, and how the world finally got to hear it. There's also a discussion of the differences between the two versions, and the musical roots of this great song.
    If you want to read more about Buddy Holly's incredible life and legacy, I've put together a bibliography of my sources here: www.westernbop.com/buddy-holl...
    And here is playlist of all the songs mentioned in the series : • The True Tale of "That...
    A co-production of ‪@westcoastramble‬ and J.P. McDermott
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Комментарии • 52

  • @ronmartin4212
    @ronmartin4212 2 месяца назад +5

    Another true tale:One of Buddy's last concert on that winter tour was in Minnesota.Guess who was in the audience and up close.His Bobness,Mr.Dylan.Bob was.mesmerized,to say the least,like we all would've been.Moreover,Buddy was in the midst of performing when he looked down into the audience and his eyes happened to connect with Bob's.Bob almost felt like a torch was passed to him,knowing what we obviously know about Buddy's passing not long after, and Bob's unbelievable career over the past bunch of decades and his status in Rock history.

    • @WesternBop
      @WesternBop  2 месяца назад +2

      I loved this story, but didn’t quite trust it. Just last year his high school sweetheart sold her letters from Bob at auction. Sure enough, he mentions the concert, so it was true. I was so happy when I heard this!

  • @user-hd1oy9ry9e
    @user-hd1oy9ry9e День назад

    I still have B Hollys old LP record back in released in 63 , the white cover with Buddy with his iconic glasses. Great record, will have it always

  • @drfiggles
    @drfiggles 6 месяцев назад +7

    Good to see people keeping Buddy Hollys music and legacy alive. It saddens me that most people my age know absolutely nothing about him other than Weezers song. I’ve been listening to Buddy since I was 11 or 12 and he’s been one of my top three artists ever since and I listen to his music I swear at least once a day. There will never be another Buddy Holly, the closest we ever got was with The Beatles and it took four of them to create the music Holly did.

    • @WesternBop
      @WesternBop  6 месяцев назад +2

      Glad that you’re listening to Buddy - that’s what keeps the music alive. And thanks for the comment!

    • @buddyh17
      @buddyh17 2 месяца назад +2

      my need to listen to ( my idol ) buddy is constant ! the gratification is instant

    • @hewgrebe4771
      @hewgrebe4771 13 дней назад

      I may agree. So many people in the 60’s came from the fantastic music that was released from these men. I look at the ‘50’s and I go to just Buddy. He wrote, recorded and played his own music.

  • @giulioluzzardi7632
    @giulioluzzardi7632 5 дней назад

    Nice Stratocaster, almost a 3 tone Sienna sunburst, beautiful to behold, sound is tops too!

  • @hewgrebe4771
    @hewgrebe4771 13 дней назад

    Such a great song to hear. But I like the Clovis version best. Sounded a lot better. Thanks, to this group of men. 👏

    • @WesternBop
      @WesternBop  11 дней назад

      The Clovis version is definitely the tops I. My book!

  • @2011littlejohn1
    @2011littlejohn1 13 дней назад

    Very interesting story of one of the most important rock and roll contributors. I know a guy who went to the US, drove to Lubbock and got to play with a guy who had played with Buddy Holly. I will be green FOREVER about that.

    • @WesternBop
      @WesternBop  11 дней назад

      Thanks. I’d be envious too!

  • @rayc4244
    @rayc4244 6 дней назад

    Long live Buddy!

  • @ruthboykin9873
    @ruthboykin9873 6 месяцев назад +1

    Wow what a great history story on Buddy!

    • @WesternBop
      @WesternBop  6 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks for listening!

  • @rawbones4117
    @rawbones4117 3 месяца назад +1

    I had this weird connection with Buddy when I was about 20ish. Suddenly, I got myself into a huge Oldies phase and delved deep into his music and life. I think it was that late teenager morbid fascination with young death and legacy that was still lingering in my head. Something about this young man who was snuffed out all those years before my own life just gripped me. To this day, visiting the crash site in Iowa is a huge bucket list.
    Started a lifelong love of 50s rock n roll. Oldies. And a general appreciation for an era that is too often pushed aside, misunderstood, or generalized into a hokey caricature.
    Finding this channel is like a goldmine. Thank you for all you do

    • @WesternBop
      @WesternBop  3 месяца назад

      Thanks for the lovely comment. My love for Buddy started as a teen as well. His music has been in my head most of my life!

  • @ericallen9415
    @ericallen9415 6 дней назад

    This is a FANTASTIC video and history. I subscribed way before the video finished. Rock on, Sir! And thank you for putting this together! I look forward to seeing more of your videos. (And THANK YOU for not being AI -- I am now starting to read comments and reviews before hitting the "play" button.)

  • @buzzsmith8146
    @buzzsmith8146 2 месяца назад +1

    Thanks for this information, J.P.

  • @Our__Earth
    @Our__Earth 6 месяцев назад

    Thanks JP. Buddy was one of a kind in so many ways. I’ve been to Lubbock, and to where he used to live in New York City as well. And the surf ballroom.

    • @WesternBop
      @WesternBop  6 месяцев назад

      Thanks for the comments! I’ve been to Lubbock and Clovis. I’ve spent lots of time in NY, but haven’t gone by the Brevoort. Surf Ballroom is on my bucket list!

    • @Our__Earth
      @Our__Earth 6 месяцев назад

      JP - here's my video of the three stars memorial at the Surf Ballroom ruclips.net/video/TZ-YoIXXTps/видео.htmlsi=__uW4yncyU__YNpV @@WesternBop

  • @RockinEd
    @RockinEd 2 месяца назад +1

    Another interesting fact not mentioned----since Cedarwood music published TBTD originally and since Norman Petty picked it up for his company NOR-VA-JAK music-- Cedarwood was promised one of Buddy's future compostions-- hence, Think It Over was given to Cedarwood.

    • @terencemcardle9935
      @terencemcardle9935 2 месяца назад +1

      And I think Webb Pierce, who told Buddy to sing high, was one of the co-owners of Cedarwood along with Jim Denny.

    • @WesternBop
      @WesternBop  2 месяца назад

      Yes - one of the many complicated legal stories around Buddy!

  • @terencemcardle9935
    @terencemcardle9935 2 месяца назад +1

    J.P. -- As always, you give us the full story on all things Buddy Holly. I would say the first "That'll Be The Day" is a lousy record. But that's said with the caveat that it is a Buddy Holly record and it is being measured against the other TBTD cut for Petty and the other big tune cut that day, "Ollie Vee." I think if the record belonged to another artist -- and there was no other version of TBTD to compare it to -- we collector types would probably prize it a bit more. (God knows I revere records by Herbie Duncan, which is hard to explain to normal people like my girl friend.) One of my favorite obscure rockabilly records is "It Ain't Me" by Ray Campi on Dot. Ray clearly was listening to Buddy when he wrote that one. And if you think about, "Feelin' Right Tonight" by Tex R, from our own home base, owes a lot to The Crickets' Brunswick version of "That"ll Be The Day." Now maybe you can tell us why the parent company (Decca/MCA) put Buddy's hits out under two different names on two different labels. (That said, I'm sure all this history means nothing to those younger people who grew up without 45s or 'over the air' radio. Actually, I feel for them. We lived during the tail end of what used to be called fun.)

    • @WesternBop
      @WesternBop  2 месяца назад +1

      “…tail end of what used to be called fun” - perfect summation. I agree with you that the Decca TBTD would be highly prized if it hadn’t been surpassed by the Clovis version. I’ll have to dig around a bit to explain Decca’s releases. I think the “with The Three Tunes” is the 45 and simply “Buddy Holly” for the LP, but would have to research more. Thanks for stopping by!

  • @ralphwest8156
    @ralphwest8156 6 месяцев назад +2

    Brilliant and well done history. Thank you, love to hear more.

    • @WesternBop
      @WesternBop  6 месяцев назад

      Thank you very much! I have a long piece on the Apartment Tapes that I hope to get out this year…

  • @vinmat3558
    @vinmat3558 2 месяца назад

    Great info. Thanks.

  • @bigsandysounds
    @bigsandysounds 6 месяцев назад +1

    Great to have to have all the chapters together in one hit!

    • @WesternBop
      @WesternBop  6 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks - it was a labor of love to put them all together!

  • @colindavies1197
    @colindavies1197 6 месяцев назад +1

    Really well done! Thank you for this and for everything you’ve done to keep the flame burning. I love your theory about the opening to “Blue Monday”. And your deconstruction of the Decca version is spot on. Thank you!!

    • @WesternBop
      @WesternBop  6 месяцев назад

      Thank you, Colin. It means a lot to me to get a compliment from “The Professor of Rock & Roll”!

  • @happyolddude
    @happyolddude 6 месяцев назад +1

    Well Done My friend - I loved it and it is good to hear facts not suppositions.

    • @WesternBop
      @WesternBop  6 месяцев назад

      Thank you! I did my best to keep it factual from well-documented sources.

  • @Our__Earth
    @Our__Earth 6 месяцев назад +1

    JP - you could make another video comparing the two versions of "Maybe Baby" from Nashville and Clovis, too! Those two versions are great but again, the 2nd one was lower and better sound quality.

    • @WesternBop
      @WesternBop  6 месяцев назад

      The weird thing about that weird first version of “Maybe Baby” is that it was recorded in Clovis! The first version was recorded in March 1957. The great second version was recorded in September and shows how fast Buddy was learning and growing musically!

    • @randysappo4479
      @randysappo4479 5 месяцев назад

      True, the first version was recorded in Clovis on March 12, 1957.
      Oddly enough, the released hit version was recorded at Tinker Air Force Base, just east of Oklahoma City, in the early hours of September 29, 1957. While there, Buddy, JI, Joe & Niki also laid down "An Empty Cup", "Rock Me My Baby", and "You've Got Love".
      The Picks would go on to overdub the backing vocals for "Maybe Baby" and seven other tracks back in Clovis about two weeks later, between October 12th and 14th.
      "Maybe Baby" came out in November of that year on "The Chirping Cruckets" LP, and was also released as a single in February of 1958. The original March 1957 recording wasn't released until 1983's "For the First Time Anywhere" LP.

  • @ThomasDeLello
    @ThomasDeLello 6 месяцев назад +1

    What do you suppose a copy of that Decca recording of TBTD would be worth to a collector...?

    • @WesternBop
      @WesternBop  6 месяцев назад

      Pricing is all over the place on things like this. From what I’ve seen maybe $30 in excellent condition with the paper sleeve.

  • @ryanbruhson6641
    @ryanbruhson6641 2 месяца назад

    Does anyone know where I can find this deaf phone call? I can’t seem to find it anywhere.

    • @oteame2002
      @oteame2002 2 месяца назад

      spotify

    • @WesternBop
      @WesternBop  Месяц назад

      For some reason the Norman Petty estate owns the copyright to the tape and are very aggressive in taking it down. It pops up on RUclips now and then.

  • @chuckschillingvideos
    @chuckschillingvideos 10 дней назад +1

    Owen Bradley would probably have had a thirty piece string section and a full chorus.
    But....let's not forget how Norman Petty stole Buddy Holly blind, same with the StringALongs and other artists.

    • @WesternBop
      @WesternBop  8 дней назад +1

      Norman was a brilliant producer, but had some questionable business practices for certain.

  • @Boppinbonny
    @Boppinbonny 6 месяцев назад +1

    In my opinion the Decca version of That;ll be the day is better!

    • @WesternBop
      @WesternBop  6 месяцев назад

      It’s definitely a good tune - it’s Buddy Holly!

  • @tinapatton7346
    @tinapatton7346 6 месяцев назад

    Far from Complete True Tale. Straight off the 'Crickets' bat: 1) BUD'S 1st BIG Hit was summer not fall '57 as composer of "Words of Love" by The Diamonds. 2) Well within his range BUD was advised to sing high on his great Rockabilly TBTD like Gene Vincent's BIG Hit "Be Bop A Lula" BUD got Gene's autograph at the Nashville D.J. Convention during his 3rd & last Decca session in November not December '56; 3) No note of June Clark; 4) 7-piece BUD/Crickets/vocalists 12-Bar swing beat TBTD intro was standard early Blues not unique to Fats. 5) Contract-freak Cohen forced BUD to create The 'Chirpin' Crickets myth not fact first nailed on 'Live' TV Tu Oct 22 Rockin '57 by Portland Oregon KPTV High Time when acapella J.I. & Joe B. looked kinda uncomfortable and the only true 'Chirpin' Cricket Niki was somehow absent! ruclips.net/video/_t4RmxEkfJQ/видео.html

    • @WesternBop
      @WesternBop  6 месяцев назад

      Thanks for your comment.