What happens if Tidus kills the Water Flan in Besaid?

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  • Опубликовано: 23 мар 2021
  • I grinded over 100 hours to see what would happen in the dialogue in one of the fixed battles with Lulu, Wakka, and Tidus against a Water Flan in Besaid. Tidus is supposed to hit the flan and not be able to kill it and Lulu comes in to zap it with magic. But what happens if Tidus kills it instead. Join me in my quest for truth.
    I almost exclusively play Final Fantasy on Twitch. Come say hi some time.
    / warrior_of_light1

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  • @BHFFS
    @BHFFS 3 года назад +541

    2:02

    • @AlymereWoL
      @AlymereWoL  3 года назад +81

      Thanks, I'm sure some people will appreciate this

    • @thisisnotdan1
      @thisisnotdan1 3 года назад +205

      @@AlymereWoL LOL, it took you 100+ hours to create this situation, but the rest of us can't be arsed to sit through 2 minutes of video to see how it turns out.

    • @AlymereWoL
      @AlymereWoL  3 года назад +45

      @@thisisnotdan1 😆

    • @stale2665
      @stale2665 2 года назад +25

      I feel like if the only purpose was to check what would happened, you could probably have used a save file editor to give tidus max strength instead of spending 100 hours grinding.

    • @sircrashtonii9718
      @sircrashtonii9718 2 года назад +11

      @@stale2665 yea, but that would be borrrring

  • @cloudxz92
    @cloudxz92 3 года назад +3692

    Wakka: "Told you only Magic can beat it!"
    Tidus: "But it's dead already!"
    Wakka: "ONLY... MAGIC... CAN... BEAT... IT!"
    Tidus: "Ok..."🙄

  • @BM03
    @BM03 2 года назад +199

    "You gotta use magic of the element they don't like!"
    I see. He doesn't like Sword Element attacks.

  • @shaneroffey5638
    @shaneroffey5638 2 года назад +19

    "this one here is a water fiend, which means..." *victory fanfare*

  • @elvickRULES
    @elvickRULES 3 года назад +841

    Would be fun if the dialog changed to something like, “You could’ve defeated this easier with elemental differences instead of hours of grinding”.

    • @Hati-Gojira
      @Hati-Gojira 3 года назад +38

      I bet developers werent expecting someone to do this 😂

    • @LeoRex13
      @LeoRex13 3 года назад +13

      @@Hati-Gojira clearly… dang- a little acknowledgment would’ve been nice!

    • @blueotter5954
      @blueotter5954 3 года назад +6

      We need a remake

    • @Ligael_Verne
      @Ligael_Verne 2 года назад

      @@blueotter5954 I would love it !

    • @catelynh1020
      @catelynh1020 2 года назад +7

      When i was younger, i had a save file for kingdom hearts that was the first or second day on destiny islands. Every time i wanted to play through again, i loaded that save, spent another stupid amount of time leveling, then continued the game saving in another slot.
      Why? The first time i replayed the game, i wanted to level up enough (i think it was level 17) in order to see enemies' health bars before i even left the island. It was a lot of hitting waka's ball back at him for techpoints

  • @chatnoir3025
    @chatnoir3025 3 года назад +948

    Lulu: This one here is a water fiend, which means...
    Tidus: It evaporated 40 seconds ago.

  • @Dakuu75
    @Dakuu75 3 года назад +757

    Your contributions to science are deeply appreciated.

  • @TheDondoran
    @TheDondoran 3 года назад +86

    I appreciate your defiance of fixed battles. It speaks to the child that's left in me.

    • @AlymereWoL
      @AlymereWoL  3 года назад +15

      There are more than I realized in the FF series. I am currently working on one in FF 3 and FF XIII-2, but I hope to also do one that is in FF 4 and FF 9

  • @wingedcatgirl
    @wingedcatgirl 2 года назад +17

    "This one here is a water fiend, which means..." ~Victory fanfare!~
    "It means we win?"

  • @CheshireReinaDrDre
    @CheshireReinaDrDre 3 года назад +1169

    Wakka:Only magic can beat it !
    Tidus: but I just.....
    Wakka: you dare go against yevon teachings? !!!

    • @thefirstc.j.582
      @thefirstc.j.582 3 года назад +21

      HEethen (heathen in wakka voice)

    • @HumbleHurricane
      @HumbleHurricane 3 года назад +33

      Jecht: look at em, he's cryin

    • @edgarava1
      @edgarava1 3 года назад +15

      INFIDEL!….summons dark penance…..game over

    • @bennehftw
      @bennehftw 3 года назад +1

      @shondarian Lmao

    • @asahearts1
      @asahearts1 2 года назад +2

      You're not one of them filthy Al Bhed, are you, brudda?

  • @baphnie
    @baphnie 3 года назад +544

    “Told ya!” -Wakka at peak arrogance.

    • @alexanderson4497
      @alexanderson4497 3 года назад +15

      What do you expect from Grand Wizard Wakka?

    • @DiogoJ1
      @DiogoJ1 3 года назад +8

      What arrogance? He knows better than Tidus at that point. That's called confidence.

    • @BM-di9wz
      @BM-di9wz 3 года назад +1

      Okay Escanor lol

    • @Rhomagus
      @Rhomagus 3 года назад +3

      Damn near, "Are you fucking sorry" 'd him.

    • @locke103
      @locke103 3 года назад +7

      @@DiogoJ1 and yet i've dealt with professionals with zero condescension in their tone.
      wakka think he got that big dick energy. yet never won a championship in... how many years was it again? glass houses, yo.

  • @SolstaceWinters
    @SolstaceWinters 3 года назад +196

    110 hours of grinding later...
    Wakka: "You might make a good guardian someday."

  • @mursamunelegend
    @mursamunelegend 3 года назад +66

    It's like in theater when something goes wrong and the director is like: "Continue the script, continue the script."

  • @mrskye08
    @mrskye08 3 года назад +199

    Lulu: clueless, aren't you? It's fukin dead.
    *Victory fanfare*

  • @andrewsebree4333
    @andrewsebree4333 3 года назад +159

    Lulu: "This one here is water, which means..."
    Me: "Means what? MEANS WHAT?!?!"

    • @RaceBandit
      @RaceBandit 3 года назад +2

      *"You Are Dead" **_(by Joe Sparks)_** intensifies*

    • @kevanliasta9341
      @kevanliasta9341 3 года назад +17

      meaning you have to drink it in order to defeat it. Clueless aren't you?

    • @RaceBandit
      @RaceBandit 3 года назад

      @@kevanliasta9341 | Okay that was good.

    • @andrewsebree4333
      @andrewsebree4333 3 года назад +3

      @@kevanliasta9341 i thought you boiled it? And made some soup

    • @kevanliasta9341
      @kevanliasta9341 3 года назад +2

      @@andrewsebree4333 No, just drink them like a chad

  • @recino2
    @recino2 3 года назад +68

    Tidus: kills flan
    Little Kid: "You're a bad man!"

  • @soniquefus
    @soniquefus 3 года назад +126

    there's also dialogue if you use the wrong magic on the flan. Lulu is like, "I'm just showing what can happen if you use the wrong magic!"...
    but this was cool, thanks for showing this

    • @saphcal
      @saphcal 3 года назад +9

      i had no idea lmao

    • @richardsinclair7661
      @richardsinclair7661 2 года назад +12

      She actually says "That was a bad example..." and the game lets you try again. I'm not a know-it-all for FFX or anything, I just started another playthrough on PC and experienced that scene, lmfao.
      Also, kinda surprised that more people don't know that exists, but then again maybe the majority of gamers aren't like me and don't fat-finger things.

    • @gundamkaizer6947
      @gundamkaizer6947 2 года назад +9

      The "I'm just showing you what can happen if you cast the wrong magic", I believe, is her justification when Wakka calls her out on healing it if you cast Water.
      Casting Fire/Blizzard gets you the "bad example" dialogue, and if you have Lulu goof around for long enough, Wakka will get annoyed with her and the tutorial ends that way.

  • @biggains1
    @biggains1 3 года назад +1638

    Bro, you sounded truly defeated when you said "And that's it. 110 hours to answer one dumb question." 🤣 You're a champ in my eyes!

    • @frankbrodie5168
      @frankbrodie5168 3 года назад +35

      @Face ME Not even a cheat code. The PC version has built in boosters. The 'All Items' booster lets you massacre the sphere grid as early as Rikku first opening it up for you on the boat.

    • @BryanM86
      @BryanM86 2 года назад +8

      No way this took 110 hours

    • @Walamonga1313
      @Walamonga1313 2 года назад +13

      Now imagine the guy that got Cloud and Barret to level 99 at the very beginning of FF VII

    • @Breakbeat.
      @Breakbeat. 2 года назад +6

      @@Walamonga1313 When I got the FF7 demo with Tobal No. 1 I tried to fight till leveling up. When you get to almost level up, the random battles stop and you won't be able to fight anymore. I wanted to see what the level up system was like in 7. Such mystery back then.

    • @davidyang3706
      @davidyang3706 2 года назад +1

      Worth it.

  • @sodathejunker
    @sodathejunker 3 года назад +498

    The average player probably wouldn’t care, but gotta say all of us who have played this game to hell and back and enjoy game design probably appreciate knowing how little things like that are scripted this way. Feels the same as when I found out KO characters would run back onto the field after a summoning ends only to then keel over.
    It’s goofy maybe, but actually a smart move against bugging the game out.

    • @dakotamabry1645
      @dakotamabry1645 3 года назад +33

      I always thought that was funny .. goes back in passes out .. 😅

    • @adams3560
      @adams3560 3 года назад +20

      @@dakotamabry1645 *runs back onto the field* “Hey guys, I’m feeling better now! Or not…” *collapses*

    • @HumbleHurricane
      @HumbleHurricane 3 года назад +3

      @@dakotamabry1645 Johnny Cage: "This is where you fall down"

    • @HazmanFTW
      @HazmanFTW 3 года назад +6

      Yeah I love that, they get up, run out for a summon, then come in and fall back down after.

    • @user-ut5ki2fi6b
      @user-ut5ki2fi6b 2 года назад +5

      @Death Guidance "Average, typical…" It doesn't have to be as a diss. No, the typical player will not keep playing a 20 year old game ad nauseam lol

  • @TheTsukuyomiLight
    @TheTsukuyomiLight 3 года назад +30

    Wakka: "Looks like trouble..."
    Tidus: "Watch this!"
    *One shots Flan.*
    Wakka: "OH SHI-"

  • @Feare909
    @Feare909 3 года назад +42

    That’s life in a nutshell: you get the job done against the odds and you’re still not given your due credit because ‘you’re doing it wrong!’

  • @huckmart2017
    @huckmart2017 3 года назад +107

    I died of laughter when wakka said "told ya!".

    • @locke103
      @locke103 3 года назад +11

      Wakka: Told ya!
      Tidus: Get fucked, bro.

  • @ExinerisLP
    @ExinerisLP 3 года назад +148

    I would have loved just a "What the hell!?" from Wakka, then cue victory theme

  • @GUNDAMURX73
    @GUNDAMURX73 3 года назад +26

    You know what though, some QA probably went into making sure that if, just IF, *somehow* some madman grinded Tidus enough to one shot that Flan, the tutorial would still play and the game wouldn't crash. So, from a certain point of view, that's some solid game design.

    • @samhershey4644
      @samhershey4644 2 года назад +1

      They still could have made it so the game wouldn't have crashed
      *Tidus kills the flan*
      Waka: Well, I WAS going to have Lulu help teach you on how Elements work, but I don't really see that being needed now.
      *game continues*

    • @khaerinaenno
      @khaerinaenno 2 года назад +2

      Actually, it's quite solid to assume that, if some madman grinded Tidus enough to one shot that Flan, *he doesn't exactly need to see this tutorial*, so it just can be skipped.

  • @TheAeonAnimA
    @TheAeonAnimA 3 года назад +58

    “Psst, you weren’t supposed to kill it!”
    “What do you mean?”
    “Told ya. Only magic can beat that thing!”
    “Wakka I just-
    “STICK TO THE SCRIPT”
    “MAGIC? ELEMENTS???”
    Edit: I love how everyone was thinking the same thing lol

  • @Donasaur7734
    @Donasaur7734 3 года назад +358

    Tidus sounds like he’s getting gaslit when Wakka starts trying to educate him.
    “Watch this!”
    Kills flan with sword
    “See, I told you that you need magic, of an element it doesn’t like.”
    “Magic? Element? (I just killed it with my sword??)”

    • @Sorcerer86pt
      @Sorcerer86pt 2 года назад +13

      Element? Ah you mean sword element. And if I need to cast anything I can cast punch

    • @marcvandermeyden8000
      @marcvandermeyden8000 2 года назад +1

      funny enuf youre dialog sounds like allot of sjw today.

  • @CutThatCutThat
    @CutThatCutThat 3 года назад +1416

    Not all heroes wear capes, nice job.

    • @AlymereWoL
      @AlymereWoL  3 года назад +85

      Honestly, I was just satisfying my own stupid curiosity.

    • @Henriktranoy
      @Henriktranoy 3 года назад +33

      What makes you think he wasn't wearing a cape?

    • @jedcauffield1858
      @jedcauffield1858 3 года назад +5

      Def nice job sphere

    • @donaldmashburn1039
      @donaldmashburn1039 3 года назад +12

      @@AlymereWoL time well spent I lose focus on the spawn grind after just a few hours and quit. You sit on besaide just in that small area for 100+ hrs this is real commitment. My hats off to you bro. Best game of our generation in my opinion.

    • @KnownAsKenji
      @KnownAsKenji 3 года назад +1

      These are always their own unique sort of fun journey.
      I remember trying to grind Star Ocean 2 to beat Dias at the tournament. No guide, didn't know Dias scaled to my level anyway, didn't know it could be cheesed, also that it just leads to a dialogue that restarts the battle infinitely. I just wanted to level some more.
      Then there was general grinding in Final Fantasy Tactics Advance and Tactics Ogre Knight of Lodis, hoping for any endgame at all. Grinding 2-3 AGI points a battle long after the game has managed to remotely challenge you. Maybe I'll get that full 999 stats one day though.

  • @kaylaworley6109
    @kaylaworley6109 2 года назад +11

    As someone who hasn’t played this game in 10 years and just vaguely watches some videos on it for nostalgia occasionally, this was the most hilarious video to pop up in my feed

    • @kaldo_kaldo
      @kaldo_kaldo 2 года назад

      I never played the game and never watched a FFX video, but yeah it just came up for me too

  • @fondlebottoms
    @fondlebottoms 2 года назад +24

    Me waiting 3 minutes to find out the answer: 'Well that was stupid'
    WoL: '110 hours for one stupid question'
    Doing gods work here

  • @Blazen77123
    @Blazen77123 3 года назад +272

    Wakka: DAAAAAAMN this pilgrimage gonna be a BREEZE

    • @jstewart_1
      @jstewart_1 3 года назад +36

      I really wish that was the hidden dialogue here

    • @fruitblood
      @fruitblood 3 года назад +3

      lmfaooo

  • @jefthereaper
    @jefthereaper 3 года назад +35

    Game: Oh no, you are not skipping this tutorial!

  • @michaelleue7594
    @michaelleue7594 2 года назад +18

    No idea why this popped up for me, but I'll toss you a like just because 110 hours seems like a lot of work.

  • @animatedink2529
    @animatedink2529 3 года назад +4

    Lulu: *talks on about magic*
    Tidus: "Please, stop! It's already dead!"

  • @elocfreidon
    @elocfreidon 3 года назад +127

    I was kind of hoping that the battle immediately ends and Lulu never joins your party.

    • @AlymereWoL
      @AlymereWoL  3 года назад +17

      😆

    • @zhevox
      @zhevox 3 года назад +14

      Looks like you boys got it from here, bye!

  • @VeaireProductions
    @VeaireProductions 3 года назад +179

    Tidus to Wakka: Magic? Element?? [its already dead]
    Lulu to Wakka: “clueless aren’t you?” [ITS ALREADY DEAD] *continues to educate Tidus on magic since area is safe*

  • @Gunnerblaster
    @Gunnerblaster 2 года назад +3

    Man, I gave you a Like just because I felt bad that you spent 100+ hours for this. Thanks for being a champ.

  • @waywardson44
    @waywardson44 2 года назад +9

    When you said 110 hours I lost it and couldn't stop laughing. Four and a half days of your life for this and you know what, it was worth it. Well done my man, well done.

  • @Superunknown190
    @Superunknown190 3 года назад +45

    Accidentally did something like this in Bikanel. When you first wake up and fight the giant bird, I had the Avenger sword, Haste and Slow unlocked, the thing was dead before Auron and Lulu even got a chance to appear. They just showed up at the end, Tidus was like, "Yeah! Go team!" Lol

  • @DarkSideBeats
    @DarkSideBeats 3 года назад +28

    Bro, I've been playing this game at least once every other year since It came out. I've literally pondered this question every single time this battle comes up. I don't have the patience to grind that long like you though. Thanks for finally solving the question after 20 years lol.

    • @AlymereWoL
      @AlymereWoL  3 года назад +9

      I'm happy to help. I didn't see it on RUclips and wanted to know and then just shared my results.

    • @DarkSideBeats
      @DarkSideBeats 2 года назад +1

      @@AlymereWoL Dude you actually had an entire article written about this on TheGamer website
      Did you see that? Pretty cool.

    • @lyhthegreat
      @lyhthegreat 2 года назад

      @@AlymereWoL thank you for solving this mystery

    • @lyhthegreat
      @lyhthegreat 2 года назад

      @@DarkSideBeats yeah pretty cool, i've added the link below

  • @MoostachedSaiyanPrince
    @MoostachedSaiyanPrince 3 года назад +3

    The world needs people like you to test the crazy ideas that pop into all of our heads but no one is willing to take the effort to answer.

  • @PKAonline
    @PKAonline 3 года назад +6

    Those were the kinds of questions I used to wonder about in the back of my mind as a kid. Little did I know there would be actual madmen attempting to do it. Great job even if the result is underwhelming. It's all about the friends we made along the way...

  • @Darkkefka
    @Darkkefka 3 года назад +39

    they made sure no soft locks would happen.

    • @TeflonBTM
      @TeflonBTM 3 года назад +1

      You’re the man DK!! Love your Final Fantasy 12 content.

    • @TrevorCurbo
      @TrevorCurbo 3 года назад

      Your content was some of the first youtube I ever watched and what made me deeply invested in completionist runs

    • @CellarDoorx06
      @CellarDoorx06 3 года назад

      It's so crazy your channel isn't fucking Verified by now dude.

    • @Darkkefka
      @Darkkefka 3 года назад

      @@CellarDoorx06 What do you mean?

    • @des6801
      @des6801 3 года назад

      @@Darkkefka he means how your not acknowledge by RUclips despite your views and subs

  • @JosueCorella
    @JosueCorella 3 года назад +48

    Lol 😆 sucks that they didn't think anyone would beat it and add a different dialog

  • @WoodwindsRock26
    @WoodwindsRock26 3 года назад +2

    Lulu: My job here is done
    Tidus: But you didn't do anything

  • @Fatalzyntax
    @Fatalzyntax 3 года назад +22

    "This one here is a water fiend, which means..."
    Me: uses Water

  • @wohdinhel
    @wohdinhel 3 года назад +122

    The framework for these scripted events are built in to the battle system, and I believe there are some events like this that *do* happen after all the enemies are defeated, so it allows scenes to play out no matter what, and just checks for a battle clear condition after the dialogue finishes. It’s a pretty smart way of doing it, and pretty much guarantees there would be no way to softlock yourself this way.

    • @12345678abracadabra
      @12345678abracadabra 3 года назад +8

      i mean, to plan for and write additional dialogue and programming is more work than just forcing only one all time. so its more convenience and arguably laziness than genius

    • @dinoblacklane1640
      @dinoblacklane1640 2 года назад +3

      @@12345678abracadabra Sure yeah its laziness, but really theres no point going through the effort of programming a what if, if that what if can only be seen by doing an insane amount of grinding

    • @myheadhurtsagain
      @myheadhurtsagain 2 года назад +4

      @@12345678abracadabra That is basically like telling all RPG developers that they need some kind of 110 hour grind sesh, contingency. It isn't laziness to not design something that should never happen, instead you create a stable system with clear and flexible programming to prevent accidental breaks.

    • @BiggBossChanel
      @BiggBossChanel 2 года назад

      I mean they could have let the enemy be at 1 health until lulu shows up or something, I'm sure giving it that property wouldn't have been that hard

    • @demonkingt
      @demonkingt 2 года назад +3

      funny thing is that it was only implented starting in ps1 and above games. if i remember right off some nes examples the games tend to not have that and cause crashes from it.

  • @xophanlo8802
    @xophanlo8802 3 года назад +98

    Wrong, Tidus fades away and wakes up from his dream lol

    • @Veladus
      @Veladus 3 года назад +6

      Wrong again. The fiend explodes close the camera, causing it to fade out. Seconds pass, and slowly it begins to focus in again. You hear a voice. "Hey you, you're finally awake."

  • @WallabeeJones
    @WallabeeJones 2 года назад

    Bravo, thank you for the time spent! You answered a question I never thought to ask!

  • @Gillrien
    @Gillrien 2 года назад +1

    Absolutely ripped and hulking main character bursts through a door in an early area: "I HAVE FINISHED FARMING . "

  • @PNW_Marxist
    @PNW_Marxist 2 года назад +3

    That's dedication right there. My hat goes off to you just for making the attempt.

  • @Domino2097
    @Domino2097 3 года назад +74

    WoL: grinds for 100 hours
    Me: hits max stats in FFX save editor

    • @Zarryon12
      @Zarryon12 3 года назад +2

      *hacks in all ultimate weaps* yep ....

    • @donaldmashburn1039
      @donaldmashburn1039 3 года назад

      100 hrs of dedication and focus vs cheap easy and lazy playing. Y did you bother playing in the first place. This game is a classic and deserves to be played right like all FF games you need to grind it because it makes beating it feel so much more rewarding. Do you think that small list of people who have beat every FF game used cheap tricks, cheats or hacks no they earned it and that is an accomplishment you will never get until you learn what it means to grind out these games like there ment to be done.

    • @Domino2097
      @Domino2097 3 года назад +3

      @@donaldmashburn1039 erm excuse me I've beaten every final fantasy and even platinumed them all legit I only tried this for lols to see what would happen

    • @donaldmashburn1039
      @donaldmashburn1039 3 года назад +1

      @@Domino2097 ok. As long as you beat them legit. It makes me so agrovated when I hear people who have to cheat just to beat a game like this. It just removes all fun from the game.

    • @Domino2097
      @Domino2097 3 года назад +2

      @@donaldmashburn1039 exactly I don't even want to use guides if I'm stuck until I beat a game I'd rather stubbornly hit my head at the game lol

  • @ivandimitrov7994
    @ivandimitrov7994 3 года назад +22

    There was a modified save game that brings down the stats of all characters, so Lulu can't one shot the flan. When you get here and do the attack and it doesn't kill it, the game just doesn't know how to continue and you are stuck.

    • @lyhthegreat
      @lyhthegreat 2 года назад +1

      is there a cheat that can make your characters stronger earlier on so that you won't have to grind for 100 hours?

    • @ivandimitrov7994
      @ivandimitrov7994 2 года назад

      @@lyhthegreat there are save game editors, they allow you to modify the character stats. Pump up the stats and you can breeze through the game.

    • @lyhthegreat
      @lyhthegreat 2 года назад +2

      @@ivandimitrov7994 oh, maybe the guy posting the video should had tried that instead..

  • @bagofalltrades9044
    @bagofalltrades9044 2 года назад +1

    Well I for one am glad I tuned in.
    There are no dumb questions, only dumb answers.

  • @89RedXIII
    @89RedXIII 3 года назад +14

    Interesting. I wondered that myself, but never tried it. Thank you for doing it!
    They could have added a line of dialogue of wakka saying "wow, dude, that's impressive!"
    Or they could have forced a fixed damange for that particular attack of Tidus.
    I wonder if the same happens with Auron! I'll pass by haha

    • @AlymereWoL
      @AlymereWoL  3 года назад +4

      I know right. It would have made it more worth it.

    • @billmore6486
      @billmore6486 3 года назад +2

      Square: you just wasted 100 hours, good work!

  • @damonnomad3422
    @damonnomad3422 3 года назад +17

    Would have been funny if lulu or wakka told him to stop showing off.

  • @TheOfficialDrovix
    @TheOfficialDrovix 11 месяцев назад +1

    "This one here is a water fiend, which means... this battle is over." - Lulu

  • @coreDesignix
    @coreDesignix 3 года назад +2

    the power that you have to put this much work into this.... unparalleled

  • @DoctorTalon
    @DoctorTalon 3 года назад +6

    I had a feeling this would happen, because Final Fantasy games aren't usually made for alternate outcomes (such as winning battles you're supposed to lose). I think my brother used a GameShark/Codebreaker to give the Brotherhood Sword piercing (in the PS2 version) in order to kill the Flan and this happened. It's hilarious that this still happened in the updated version, but at most updates will just clean up glitches.

  • @somedumbloserscsgochannel5942
    @somedumbloserscsgochannel5942 3 года назад +5

    Always wondered about the Auron armored fiend one. Never considered you could also do it for this battle as well. Shame nothing interesting happened but thanks for grinding for us all to find out!

  • @onireno
    @onireno 2 года назад +1

    I did this many years ago... I could have told you nothing changed but, it's awesome to know that people are still doing this.

  • @brandonwalmsley1863
    @brandonwalmsley1863 2 года назад +1

    This is amazing. I mean, the time it had to take to get Tidus to this point must have been insane. Congratulations!

  • @Krelen107
    @Krelen107 3 года назад +6

    Not all heroes wear capes! Looking at the comments some people apparently said the same thing. We salute you!

  • @SharpnelBoy
    @SharpnelBoy 3 года назад +72

    So they put in a fail safe in case that happens. Smart move, Square.

    • @frozenfusion6072
      @frozenfusion6072 3 года назад +5

      In case against all odds, you were somehow able to kill it.

    • @TrevorCurbo
      @TrevorCurbo 3 года назад

      What was the fail safe?

    • @TrevorCurbo
      @TrevorCurbo 3 года назад +3

      @@AlextheSuperfly I just don't know if I'd call it a fail safe. haha. Rather that everything happened precisely as usual.

    • @MistyKathrine
      @MistyKathrine 2 года назад

      @@TrevorCurbo The game didn't crash or freeze.

    • @TrevorCurbo
      @TrevorCurbo 2 года назад +1

      @@MistyKathrine Yeah, the game just didn't acknowledge any change. It proceeded the only way it was designed to proceed. A fail safe would be more of a shift in operations to accommodate an unintended event. Whereas this didn't acknowledge a change at all. So in essence, it kind of did fail. In so much as the scene no longer makes any sense at all contextually. The context didn't fix itself to accommodate the scenario.

  • @suspicioussnail6173
    @suspicioussnail6173 2 года назад

    Very informative, your sacrifice of time is greatly appreciated my good sir!

  • @carcillian
    @carcillian 2 года назад +2

    The flan is like “GET ON WITH IT, I’m dead!!”

  • @clouduslakestream8781
    @clouduslakestream8781 3 года назад +12

    I remember one-shotting the armored thingy on Mihen Highroad with Tidus, Auron said something like “hmph” if I remember correctly 😂

    • @tortoiseknight8438
      @tortoiseknight8438 3 года назад +3

      "How did the fucker get this buff? It's not even that long of a long way from Besaid to Lucca"

    • @danielbarlow3083
      @danielbarlow3083 3 года назад +1

      @@tortoiseknight8438 grind sin spawn on ship to kilika

  • @RaceBandit
    @RaceBandit 3 года назад +40

    _(making something up for this)_
    Wakka: ...oh. Hey Lu, check this out.
    Lulu: I guess you could say he stole my ... thunder.
    You guys can probably do better :/

  • @SweetheartAlyy
    @SweetheartAlyy 3 года назад +1

    This is AWESOME!! Thanks for taking your time to show us this 💖

  • @rockthemoose66
    @rockthemoose66 3 года назад +1

    I'm unable to comprehend the dedication here. Jesus. You have a gift or a talent or a something else. My lord.

  • @InvntdXNEWROMAN
    @InvntdXNEWROMAN 2 года назад +7

    I couldn't imagine grinding 100 hours for this when the remastered version has the special parameters options 😅🤣

  • @Dirandra1506
    @Dirandra1506 3 года назад +59

    Imagine if the game developer thought someone might defeat the flan (using cheat or sort) without Lulu
    Lulu: Tidus, cheating is bad

    • @locke103
      @locke103 3 года назад +12

      This feels like dialog Kojima would throw in a Metal Gear game

    • @torsten4558
      @torsten4558 3 года назад +1

      @@locke103 Psycho Mantis wouldn´t agree...

    • @peteranon8455
      @peteranon8455 3 года назад +2

      One of the "Tales" games has this, literally a fake ending after beat an 'unwinnable' battle.

    • @natben6099
      @natben6099 2 года назад

      @@peteranon8455 which one?

    • @skeiths4649
      @skeiths4649 2 года назад

      Done that. The game continues as normal.
      Even with Auron's scripted battle where you learn about armored enemies, if you defeat it with Tidus, the battle just ends.
      Honestly, with this game being out for 20 years, I thought this would have been widely known

  • @macreuben
    @macreuben 2 года назад +1

    I had wondered before but thanks for putting in the work it's awesome to see what changes and what doesn't. I have to admit it gave me a good laugh for sure definitely worth a like and sub well done good sir!

  • @TheRealKnightchip
    @TheRealKnightchip 2 года назад

    thanks for your dedication to make this happen! i didnt know i wanted to know this question but im glad it showed up, and now i know.

  • @Fortaker
    @Fortaker 3 года назад +16

    Reminds me of the scripted battle against Kain in FF-IV (from the Final Fantasy Chronicles). It's early game and the dude has 60000 HP. You are NOT supposed to win that battle, and at your (likely) levels at that point he curb-stomps you pretty quickly. So naturally I wondered what would happen if you beat him. Admittedly I used a cheat, but I got my levels up so high I not only weathered his attacks easily, but dished out some pretty good damage. Finally got him down and he "died" and vaporized off the screen, ending the battle. The result? Got nothing for my efforts, and the game proceeds as usual, with the now-defeated Kain towering over Cecil's prostrate body while saying, "Let me ease your suffering." Made no sense and I'm angry they didn't program anything special for that. :(

    • @Skijaramaz
      @Skijaramaz 3 года назад +9

      Ya know, I actually slid something into an FF fan game I'm making for an unwinnable boss early on. it takes literally hacking into the game to get rid of a trait that makes the boss literally unkillable, but if you manage to kill him there, it completely breaks the plot of the rest of the game... and so the lead developer just appears, chastises the characters and the player, and then viscerally punts the player back to the main menu as retribution, all while the characters question what the hell is going on.
      No one will ever see it, most likely. but it's there. Because I care. :)

    • @locke103
      @locke103 3 года назад

      some versions of FF2 honestly boot you back to the title screen if you somehow win that unwinnable battle at the start of the game.

    • @laurencefraser
      @laurencefraser 3 года назад

      Meanwhile, Disgaea gives you non-standard game overs (equivalent to Losing regular boss fights) if you actually beat its unbeatable bosses (it Is supposed to be possible in normal gameplay, mind you, just... Probably not on your first couple of play throughs. Newgame+ and all.)

    • @locke103
      @locke103 3 года назад

      @@laurencefraser that's... jarring, the way you're explaining it.

    • @mursamunelegend
      @mursamunelegend 3 года назад

      Xenoblade has a really good moment like that for NG+ where if you have the True Monado then Shulk will smack mechon with it and do no damage to them, meanwhile the sword is wielded by a god.

  • @HimuGamer
    @HimuGamer 3 года назад +4

    Wakka: Wait, the sword can't beat a Water Flan...
    Tidus: What did you just see, Lisa?
    Wakka: Yes but...
    Tidus: What-did-you-just-see

  • @gregi787
    @gregi787 3 года назад

    just for that dedication u earned my likes and sub :D i played this game way back and im so fond of its theme background music and great story!

  • @michaelerwinbrandtner7780
    @michaelerwinbrandtner7780 2 года назад +1

    Thx buddy for the work, a question that hunt me for 20 years now is clear !

  • @Dr_Mel
    @Dr_Mel 3 года назад +8

    110 hours. If you're planning to do more of this, just get the pc version and modify your stats in like 5 minutes.

    • @kyrrilcrepeele1353
      @kyrrilcrepeele1353 2 года назад

      That's obviously what he did

    • @Dr_Mel
      @Dr_Mel 2 года назад

      @@kyrrilcrepeele1353 Yeah, I hope so.

  • @bradleygregg3685
    @bradleygregg3685 3 года назад +6

    Take a like for the sheer audacity of spending that much time on this question. Some might say your time would be better spent researching a cure for cancer or something. But honestly, these are the answers we need. Keep it up

  • @jb9192
    @jb9192 3 года назад

    110 hours of work for a really dumb question. My man, you are the MVP. Thank you!

  • @e3IZrZ
    @e3IZrZ 2 года назад

    Someone has to do it and you had the will to, so thank you. Your 100 hours saved thousands of hours spread out over many lives.

  • @Vacheresseb
    @Vacheresseb 2 года назад +3

    I think the dialogue does change if you have lulu do something wrong and tidus/wakka kill it on follow up turns

  • @henryshadowjet
    @henryshadowjet 3 года назад +3

    Wow, great work there! I always loved these "what if" scenarios. But if I were you I'd use a Gameshark or something and save myself the horrifying 100 hours of grinding *yikes*!

  • @infernox1099
    @infernox1099 2 года назад +1

    Thanks youtube recommended for giving me a question I never wanted answered, and answering it anyways in the form of showing me this video :p

  • @StormEcho
    @StormEcho 3 года назад +1

    RUclips needs more people like you, subscribed! Thanks for spending 110 hours!

  • @etherwxlf
    @etherwxlf 3 года назад +4

    So, whenever people ask me for my top 3 RPGs there's Chrono Cross. One reason why CC is in my top is because they actually coded situations in that game where you actually do something you're not supposed to do at the time (such as defeating your own party when you switch parties with Lynx. It's easier in New Game+ tho). Little attentions to detail like that are amazing, and it's disappointing when they're not applied.

  • @candiigurl7893
    @candiigurl7893 2 года назад +4

    “110 hours for a dumb question”
    Dang, lol. Well, if it’s of any consolation 600k+ of us clicked on the video, so your efforts weren’t all in vain.

  • @LeoSeysRawr
    @LeoSeysRawr 2 года назад

    i liked for the mic quality you brought me back like 10 years

  • @DavidParraHenry
    @DavidParraHenry 2 года назад

    Dude... you deserve a like and comment after devoting over 100 hours of your precious time alive for this. Thanks.

  • @tiamagus6641
    @tiamagus6641 2 года назад +3

    As someone who, on multiple occasions, spent the time to grind for Blitz Ace on Piranhas, I love this. Thanks for proving I should have made a video! Haha!

    • @MistyKathrine
      @MistyKathrine 2 года назад

      Grinding Blitz Ace is easy. Only takes like 3 hours.
      This however, this was some dedication.

    • @broderick7932
      @broderick7932 2 года назад +1

      i hope you do make a video the next time inspiration strikes!

  • @romusa10
    @romusa10 3 года назад +4

    Ahh, brute force, the strongest magic there is

  • @hilbertjohncastro7262
    @hilbertjohncastro7262 3 года назад +1

    Appreciate the video man! When I saw the title, gotta say I got curious! :)

  • @CountMecha
    @CountMecha 2 года назад

    Thanks for the science lesson, professor. I will carry this knowledge with me.

  • @TheColeTruth
    @TheColeTruth 3 года назад +4

    When your parents give you a life lesson over nothing lol

  • @aussakagamine8862
    @aussakagamine8862 3 года назад +21

    Guess they're forcing a tutorial explanation

    • @AlymereWoL
      @AlymereWoL  3 года назад

      Yep, it's funny cuz it has the death animation and still it continues.

    • @Alan-cm7ye
      @Alan-cm7ye 3 года назад +6

      Lulu: clueless aren't you?
      Tidus: but, but, but!!! I killed it...

  • @thepilot7612
    @thepilot7612 2 года назад +1

    Love the dedication! This is awesome.

  • @BirdOfHermes83
    @BirdOfHermes83 2 года назад

    I'm glad there's someone out there answering these questions! 🖒

  • @johncleveland3924
    @johncleveland3924 3 года назад +3

    My AR Max taught me this back on my ps2. Ah, the good old AR Max days.

  • @KegOfMeat
    @KegOfMeat 3 года назад +51

    Grinding 110 hours just to kill a water flan? Yeah nah.

    • @dakotamabry1645
      @dakotamabry1645 3 года назад +1

      All my grinding went towards the battle arena and making weapons . I'd get all the enemies in one area and move on. Pretty much completed every ones grid and maxed out all their stats .. 😳 all of them , every character and it was complete over kill . And with all that I killed penance in 45 minutes.. and a weak of me dying . I don't think I ever want to play ffx again

  • @DarthEquus
    @DarthEquus 3 года назад +2

    Wakka: "That... looks like trouble."
    Tidus: "Omae wa mou shindeiru."